π - Check out Down The Middle Podcast π - Use promo code AIP for 10% off your order: https://www.steviewix.com/shop-candles π - Visit our website: www.aretemedia.org π - Yet another beloved staple of DBZ from our childhood is gone. Doc Harris, the famous voice of the narrator from Draongball Z's English dub has passed. Like Akira Toriyama he will be missed. Not everything is sad today though as we'll be doing a preview of Dragonball Daima and help you figure out where you can watch it. Get ready for an action packed episode of A-I-P! #dbz #dragonballz #dragonball #dragonballdaima #dragonballsuper #dbza #dragonballzabridged #anime #shonen #goku #dragonballgt #dragonballzsparkingzero #dbgt #vegeta #nerd #podcast
[00:00:00] All right, all right, all right. We should be live, but as we know, YouTube likes to delay, so...
[00:00:08] YouTube.
[00:00:11] Oh man, look at that line!
[00:00:13] Which actually, to be fair, I don't think it's YouTube. I think it's the tablet that I use... Oh, there it is.
[00:00:18] I think it's the tablet that I use to simul stream so I can watch the old comments.
[00:00:23] This is a piece of shit. Just because it says it's a Samsung Galaxy does not mean it's a good one.
[00:00:30] You're cutting out really bad.
[00:00:32] Really?
[00:00:34] Billy.
[00:00:35] No, you're okay now.
[00:00:39] I think. Are you there?
[00:00:40] Oh, I'm... I am here.
[00:00:43] Radio silence made me think it wasn't waking.
[00:00:46] All right.
[00:00:49] Okay, yeah, you hear me freaking out.
[00:00:53] YouTube.
[00:00:55] Okay, good. Yeah, we are...
[00:00:56] We're streaming.
[00:01:00] I like streaming.
[00:01:01] We're just waiting on Sosa to join us, but we'll go ahead and get started.
[00:01:07] So yeah.
[00:01:09] The voice of Dragon Ball Z.
[00:01:13] On the next episode.
[00:01:15] You know, and I actually started thinking about it.
[00:01:18] Is that the same guy from the original DBZ series or was it like from the Super series?
[00:01:26] Or was that a different person in general all together because they weren't the same, were they?
[00:01:31] So I'm...
[00:01:31] Shit.
[00:01:32] I should have looked that up.
[00:01:33] You said that.
[00:01:34] I do believe maybe they got somebody else.
[00:01:39] I'm fairly certain this was Super, you know, the more I think about it.
[00:01:43] I mean, it would make sense to...
[00:01:44] It would make sense to keep the same person.
[00:01:46] Yeah, Doc Harris.
[00:01:47] Yeah, it would make sense to keep the same actor, I would think.
[00:01:50] Hold on.
[00:01:51] I say that.
[00:01:52] Fuck.
[00:01:52] Google is free and right here.
[00:01:55] That's why I'm looking, Doc Harris.
[00:01:57] Dragon.
[00:01:58] Oh, actually, yeah.
[00:01:59] It's less distracting if you look something up.
[00:02:03] And while we're looking up that factoid, I want to let everybody know this podcast is brought to you tonight by our friends at Stevie Wicks, Full Beans Candle Company, who have a special surprise for all you Dragon Ball fans out there.
[00:02:14] So stay tuned in this episode and by the Down the Middle podcast, which you can check out tomorrow night if you are so inclined.
[00:02:24] So he was actually a part of the Ocean Group dub.
[00:02:30] Was he really?
[00:02:31] Oh, okay.
[00:02:33] Hang on.
[00:02:34] Oh, so...
[00:02:35] Okay, so no.
[00:02:36] That narrator has not passed, apparently.
[00:02:39] And I knew he was Canadian, but I mean, there's a lot of Canadian actors.
[00:02:42] Okay, so he was the narrator for Dead Zone in 1998 with the Ocean Group.
[00:02:47] He was the narrator for Dragon Ball Z, The Tree of Might, 1997 Ocean Group.
[00:02:52] World's Strongest, 98 Ocean Group.
[00:02:56] Okay.
[00:02:56] And then...
[00:02:58] So he's the Rock the Dragon narrator.
[00:03:01] Hey.
[00:03:03] Oh, hey.
[00:03:03] No, no, no, no, no.
[00:03:05] Yeah, that's Ocean Group.
[00:03:07] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:03:08] So the first 44 episodes that we grew up on.
[00:03:11] Yep.
[00:03:12] Yeah.
[00:03:12] So...
[00:03:13] Dude, that's hilarious.
[00:03:14] So we look stupid.
[00:03:16] But...
[00:03:17] I'm sorry.
[00:03:18] And I'm just going to put this out there.
[00:03:19] No, we don't look stupid.
[00:03:20] I'm sure I'll get hate in the comment.
[00:03:21] Nobody knew the guy's name until today.
[00:03:24] We did grow up watching.
[00:03:26] We did.
[00:03:27] Oh, yeah.
[00:03:27] To be fair.
[00:03:28] We did.
[00:03:29] Oh, we absolutely did.
[00:03:29] We started on the Ocean Group.
[00:03:31] And it's a similar voice.
[00:03:33] We're used to the Dragon Ball Z.
[00:03:37] But it was similar.
[00:03:39] Yeah.
[00:03:41] It's still sad.
[00:03:42] One of our own.
[00:03:45] Yeah.
[00:03:45] Another friend.
[00:03:47] First Akira to around.
[00:03:48] One of us.
[00:03:49] One of us.
[00:03:50] What are we going to do when Nozawa dies?
[00:03:54] That's what I...
[00:03:55] That's going to be fucking rough.
[00:03:58] I really hope it just doesn't happen.
[00:04:00] Yeah.
[00:04:01] If anyone can be immortal...
[00:04:03] She's my favorite.
[00:04:05] Yeah.
[00:04:06] Let's gather the Dragon Balls and make this thing.
[00:04:10] Like, out of all of them, she's my absolute favorite.
[00:04:14] Like, even over Sean Shamel.
[00:04:18] Like, I love him and whatnot for what he's done.
[00:04:21] But, like...
[00:04:22] I mean, honestly, Peter Clomis was better.
[00:04:25] Now, remind me who Peter...
[00:04:27] Come on.
[00:04:28] I believe he was...
[00:04:30] I want to say Ocean Group.
[00:04:32] No, I thought...
[00:04:33] No, no, no.
[00:04:34] My bad, bad.
[00:04:35] No, no, no.
[00:04:35] Tree of Mike.
[00:04:37] Yeah.
[00:04:37] He was one of them.
[00:04:39] There were two...
[00:04:39] Tree of Mike.
[00:04:40] There were two voice actors from Ocean Group.
[00:04:43] And I'm sure Justin would chime in.
[00:04:44] Because Justin grew up in Canada, so...
[00:04:46] We should have invited him on.
[00:04:49] I mean, fuck.
[00:04:50] He'll probably come on if he's free.
[00:04:52] Is he a DBZ fan?
[00:04:55] Oh, fuck.
[00:04:55] Yeah, he is.
[00:04:56] Oh, okay.
[00:04:57] So, I actually...
[00:04:58] Oh, okay.
[00:04:58] Well, hang on.
[00:04:59] I'll hit him up and see.
[00:05:01] So, but yeah.
[00:05:02] Peter Clomis, like, he was one of my favorites, dude.
[00:05:04] Because of the way he sounded in The Tree of Mike.
[00:05:08] Like, that was one of my favorites.
[00:05:10] Like, who was it?
[00:05:11] Turlis.
[00:05:12] Yeah.
[00:05:13] Yeah.
[00:05:13] Yeah, I like Turlis.
[00:05:15] Yeah, Turlis never really...
[00:05:18] He didn't really see him too bad.
[00:05:20] He just wanted power.
[00:05:22] I mean, yeah, that's kind of bad, but...
[00:05:24] I mean, Hitler wanted power, too, but...
[00:05:27] Hey, I'll just do my job.
[00:05:30] Turlis also wanted to eliminate all those...
[00:05:32] All those humans...
[00:05:33] Actually, no.
[00:05:34] He really didn't.
[00:05:34] He just wanted The Tree.
[00:05:37] The Tree of Might.
[00:05:40] The Tree of Might is still...
[00:05:42] It's on my...
[00:05:43] It's on my Christmas movie list now.
[00:05:47] The DVZ-Abridged Christmas Tree of Might.
[00:05:51] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:52] It's...
[00:05:53] Dude, it's so funny.
[00:05:55] Dude, is there a way to turn on my voice in my head?
[00:05:59] Do you hear your voice in your headphone?
[00:06:00] Does it throw you off if you don't?
[00:06:02] I don't...
[00:06:03] Maybe I do, but I also don't realize it.
[00:06:07] The only reason I was saying that, dude,
[00:06:08] is because, like, my voice is, like,
[00:06:10] shaking my headphones and it's driving me down.
[00:06:14] I didn't know if you did or not.
[00:06:15] It's no big deal.
[00:06:17] If you see me just being weird, that's why.
[00:06:22] But it's...
[00:06:25] Yeah, no, I don't...
[00:06:26] It doesn't sound weird or anything.
[00:06:29] Okay.
[00:06:30] No, I didn't mean it like that.
[00:06:31] I just...
[00:06:33] I wanted to be able to hear me,
[00:06:34] so I'm not screaming.
[00:06:37] He might be...
[00:06:38] He might be working,
[00:06:39] now that I think about it.
[00:06:42] No.
[00:06:42] No.
[00:06:43] He might take a break.
[00:06:45] I don't know.
[00:06:47] He's usually down.
[00:06:54] Do you know what Mr. Justin does?
[00:06:57] Does he work at AutoZone?
[00:07:01] He looks like an AutoZone worker.
[00:07:02] And I don't mean that in a bad way.
[00:07:04] I mean, he looks like knowledgeable.
[00:07:06] You know what?
[00:07:09] He said, sure, when?
[00:07:11] Now?
[00:07:12] Right now, just tell him we're live right now.
[00:07:15] He'd be like, this will be the first time talking to E.
[00:07:22] Yeah, Sosa said he's going to be about an hour,
[00:07:23] so I'm sure he can jump in when we start talking about Dyma,
[00:07:26] or in the middle of us talking about Dyma.
[00:07:30] Dyma.
[00:07:31] Dyma, Bobby.
[00:07:33] So, it's funny.
[00:07:34] I have a...
[00:07:34] If I seem a little distracted,
[00:07:36] it's because I have an asshole neighbor
[00:07:38] who likes to shoot off fireworks randomly at night,
[00:07:41] but these hit low to the ground,
[00:07:44] so I wasn't sure if it was that or actual gunshots.
[00:07:49] But it was very...
[00:07:50] You are up in Indy.
[00:07:52] It was very sequential, though,
[00:07:54] and I've heard it before.
[00:07:54] But, yeah, I'm like 70% sure that was fireworks.
[00:08:01] Yeah, give him a few minutes.
[00:08:02] I'll go ahead.
[00:08:03] I'm sorry.
[00:08:04] You have to look at something ugly, guys.
[00:08:05] I have to...
[00:08:10] Not in my face.
[00:08:13] You have to watch me send an email to myself.
[00:08:17] Oh, I got email from a fever.
[00:08:23] Because Zoom is a pain in the ass with adding contacts.
[00:08:27] Dude, you realize that our childhood cartoons
[00:08:31] and everything was just so much better
[00:08:33] than anything that's out and will ever come out again.
[00:08:36] Isn't that sad?
[00:08:38] I mean, yeah, but here's the thing,
[00:08:39] and I know we're not talking about Dima yet,
[00:08:41] but we were...
[00:08:42] No one's ever gonna...
[00:08:42] I'm just saying, like,
[00:08:43] no one's ever gonna top, like, Strong Bad
[00:08:45] and shit like that.
[00:08:46] I'm talking even the internet content that we...
[00:08:49] I was gonna say, birth of the internet.
[00:08:51] No, because it's corporate now.
[00:08:53] Angry Kid, do you remember him?
[00:08:54] Yeah, but it's corporate now.
[00:08:55] It's not the Wild West anymore.
[00:08:57] It's terrible.
[00:08:58] So even the viral videos are manufactured, dude.
[00:09:01] And, you know, they're just all like,
[00:09:04] uh-oh.
[00:09:05] Uh-oh.
[00:09:07] What more video go away?
[00:09:09] My video's been randomly going away.
[00:09:12] It's like, you don't have enough power.
[00:09:14] More.
[00:09:15] Power.
[00:09:17] Will Eric's...
[00:09:18] Will Eric's camera stay on for the whole episode?
[00:09:23] On this episode of Eric D.
[00:09:25] Of K-I-P.
[00:09:28] He froze again.
[00:09:30] There he is.
[00:09:30] Let's see.
[00:09:32] Ah!
[00:09:35] It is a fun game to play, though,
[00:09:38] with both live action and animated
[00:09:40] to randomly pause them.
[00:09:43] And just look at the still animation frames
[00:09:45] because some of those are hilarious.
[00:09:50] Oh, yeah.
[00:09:50] Sorry.
[00:09:51] I'm just making sure everything...
[00:09:55] Yeah, we're good.
[00:09:57] You can hear me.
[00:09:59] No.
[00:10:00] I was gonna say,
[00:10:01] you just cut out for a second there.
[00:10:03] Dude, as soon as I said,
[00:10:04] can you hear me?
[00:10:05] I hit the mute button.
[00:10:06] I figured.
[00:10:08] Oh, yeah.
[00:10:09] So, Justin...
[00:10:10] I almost just said a bad word.
[00:10:13] You said shit and then said almost.
[00:10:18] Dude.
[00:10:20] Speaking of bad words,
[00:10:21] have you heard the...
[00:10:22] Have you heard the...
[00:10:25] What you come to think of it,
[00:10:26] they might be AI,
[00:10:27] but I don't think they are
[00:10:28] because they came out a few years ago.
[00:10:29] The recordings,
[00:10:31] the DBZ cast recordings
[00:10:32] where they were just goofing off.
[00:10:37] Oh, and then, like,
[00:10:37] Sean Schemmel's calling people fags and stuff
[00:10:40] and Goku's voice and...
[00:10:42] Was it real or was it AI?
[00:10:45] I'm not sure.
[00:10:46] It came out a couple years...
[00:10:47] It came out a couple years ago, though,
[00:10:49] so this is kind of old news.
[00:10:53] But I don't know.
[00:10:54] They're funny.
[00:10:55] I don't think I have.
[00:10:56] They're funny.
[00:10:57] I don't know if they're real or not.
[00:10:59] You're just like...
[00:10:59] You're just like,
[00:11:00] yeah, they're funny.
[00:11:02] I mean, they are.
[00:11:03] They're hilarious.
[00:11:05] It's not just that one.
[00:11:06] There's a lot of other ones,
[00:11:07] but, like, there's this...
[00:11:08] I was just trying to make you feel uncomfortable.
[00:11:10] Why would I feel uncomfortable?
[00:11:11] I didn't say it.
[00:11:13] Sean Schemmel said it,
[00:11:14] that high and mighty motherfucker.
[00:11:16] Here's the thing.
[00:11:17] I like Sean Schemmel's...
[00:11:20] And I was going to say this.
[00:11:22] I like Sean Schemmel's...
[00:11:24] How do I say it?
[00:11:25] I don't like his acting as Goku,
[00:11:28] but I like his voice as Goku,
[00:11:29] if that makes any sense whatsoever.
[00:11:31] Oh, dude.
[00:11:32] I mean, yes, but, like...
[00:11:35] His King Kai.
[00:11:37] Oh.
[00:11:37] His King Kai is top-notch.
[00:11:39] I love his King Kai.
[00:11:41] But I really dislike him as a person.
[00:11:45] Yeah.
[00:11:47] King Kai?
[00:11:48] No, no, no.
[00:11:49] Sean Schemmel.
[00:11:51] Oh, Sean Schemmel.
[00:11:52] Whatever his name is.
[00:11:53] Yeah, he seems like kind of a douche in real life,
[00:11:55] if you ask me.
[00:11:56] Well, I just don't like how high and mighty he is about it.
[00:12:01] Namely...
[00:12:01] And I never really, like, thought he was fantastic.
[00:12:05] And I've never met him, so I don't know.
[00:12:06] He might be a wonderful person.
[00:12:08] I'm just going based upon what I've seen.
[00:12:10] But, yeah, he seems like a little bit of a douche,
[00:12:12] but namely because he's all high and mighty
[00:12:14] when it comes to DBZ Abridged,
[00:12:16] which, I mean, shame on Toei, too,
[00:12:18] because they brought interest back to the product
[00:12:23] over the span of a few years.
[00:12:26] So, I mean...
[00:12:27] Because didn't Super actually come about
[00:12:29] because of Abridged or something like that?
[00:12:31] I feel like there was, like, a sub...
[00:12:33] No, no.
[00:12:35] Abridged doesn't get...
[00:12:36] Team Four Star doesn't get credit for it.
[00:12:37] Super came about because Dragon Ball Evolution was so bad.
[00:12:42] That's really what it comes to.
[00:12:45] Well, but Evolution was in 2008?
[00:12:48] Yeah.
[00:12:49] And then...
[00:12:49] Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:12:50] I'm sorry.
[00:12:51] I'm sorry.
[00:12:52] I'm sorry.
[00:12:52] No.
[00:12:54] Dragon Ball Z...
[00:12:55] No.
[00:12:55] Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods came about
[00:12:57] because Dragon Ball Evolution was so bad.
[00:13:00] Oh, okay.
[00:13:01] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:13:02] And then Toei saw money
[00:13:04] and were like...
[00:13:05] Strap him back...
[00:13:07] Strap him back to that chair.
[00:13:09] Keep drawing.
[00:13:12] Keep drawing, bitch.
[00:13:13] Yakety yak, strap.
[00:13:17] Yeah, it would be great
[00:13:19] if Toei would get their heads out of their ass
[00:13:20] about a lot of things.
[00:13:22] Well, I don't know.
[00:13:23] Like I said,
[00:13:24] well, I guess we can chime in on that.
[00:13:26] I think Justin is arriving.
[00:13:28] There he is.
[00:13:29] I'm cool with Diamond.
[00:13:30] Hello!
[00:13:31] Hello, my friends.
[00:13:33] Hello, gentlemen.
[00:13:34] Finally nice to talk to you, man.
[00:13:36] Yeah!
[00:13:36] I was going to say,
[00:13:37] this is the first time you two have met.
[00:13:38] Long-time listener, big fan.
[00:13:40] Yeah.
[00:13:43] Shit, what's that?
[00:13:45] You want to know...
[00:13:46] I heard you talking about Dragon Ball Evolution.
[00:13:49] You want to know a really fun
[00:13:50] Dragon Ball Evolution fact?
[00:13:52] Sure.
[00:13:52] Sure.
[00:13:53] So, you know how,
[00:13:54] in that movie,
[00:13:57] Piccolo is played by James Marsters?
[00:14:00] Masters?
[00:14:00] Masters?
[00:14:01] Masters, yeah.
[00:14:02] Yeah, he plays Zamasu.
[00:14:05] For free.
[00:14:05] And he is uncredited.
[00:14:07] Yeah, he did it for free.
[00:14:08] Yeah, he did it for free.
[00:14:09] It did make up for the fact that
[00:14:11] everyone hates that movie.
[00:14:12] He said, I'm so sorry about Evolution.
[00:14:14] He said, I'm so sorry about Evolution.
[00:14:16] I'm so sorry.
[00:14:17] Yeah, and everybody else had the decency
[00:14:19] to just stay away.
[00:14:21] Yeah.
[00:14:22] Well, I think when Akira Toriyama died,
[00:14:25] Justin Chatwin came out,
[00:14:26] and he was like, yeah,
[00:14:27] real sorry about Dragon Ball Evolution, man.
[00:14:30] That's my bad.
[00:14:31] However...
[00:14:32] It wasn't his bad.
[00:14:33] It wasn't, well, no, it wasn't his bad.
[00:14:35] However, we were just talking about,
[00:14:37] we actually have Dragon Ball Evolution
[00:14:38] to thank for the continuation
[00:14:41] of the franchise,
[00:14:41] at least in part,
[00:14:42] because we were talking about
[00:14:43] Battle of Gods was made
[00:14:44] because Akira Toriyama was like,
[00:14:46] God damn it.
[00:14:47] He said, yeah, but let's...
[00:14:49] GT I can live with,
[00:14:50] but this shit, no.
[00:14:53] Hold on.
[00:14:53] Let me stay on Justin Chatwin
[00:14:55] for one second.
[00:14:56] Let's all be thankful
[00:14:57] that frickin'
[00:14:59] that brought him
[00:15:00] and that chick together
[00:15:02] for Shameless.
[00:15:03] I was just gonna say,
[00:15:04] if you ever wanna see him do it,
[00:15:05] you can watch Shameless.
[00:15:06] Dude, they have such great chemistry,
[00:15:09] and it's sad
[00:15:09] that they took him off to Shameless.
[00:15:11] Well, it was funny
[00:15:12] because when I watched
[00:15:12] Dragon Ball Evolution...
[00:15:13] I'm sorry, I had to say that.
[00:15:15] Well, when I watched
[00:15:15] Dragon Ball Evolution the first time,
[00:15:17] I'm like,
[00:15:17] which one of these
[00:15:17] girls is Goku trying to fuck
[00:15:18] because it feels like
[00:15:19] he's trying to get with Bulma.
[00:15:22] I mean,
[00:15:23] I don't know,
[00:15:24] he's got a pretty good
[00:15:24] for Chi-Chi in that.
[00:15:26] That movie,
[00:15:28] like,
[00:15:28] if you like
[00:15:29] the spur-of-the-moment podcast,
[00:15:31] that movie effectively
[00:15:32] launched me and Jordan
[00:15:33] onto the internet
[00:15:34] because that's like
[00:15:35] the very first thing
[00:15:35] we ever reviewed
[00:15:36] on the internet
[00:15:37] is the first thing
[00:15:39] we ever said
[00:15:40] on the internet
[00:15:40] is Jordan going,
[00:15:44] nothing could be as bad
[00:15:45] as Dragon Ball Evolution
[00:15:46] and I go,
[00:15:48] it's as bad
[00:15:49] as Dragon Ball Evolution.
[00:15:51] Oh, he's clearly never
[00:15:53] seen the movie Vulgar.
[00:15:54] It's close, admittedly,
[00:15:55] but have you seen
[00:15:56] the movie Vulgar?
[00:15:57] I've seen Centaurus movies.
[00:15:58] I have not.
[00:16:00] Don't.
[00:16:01] I watched Hostel this week,
[00:16:04] so like,
[00:16:04] my bar is low now.
[00:16:06] It's low.
[00:16:08] Vulgar,
[00:16:09] do you know
[00:16:10] of the movie Vulgar?
[00:16:11] I should.
[00:16:12] I can ask the name
[00:16:13] for some reason.
[00:16:14] I don't know why.
[00:16:15] So Vulgar is a movie,
[00:16:17] so everybody here
[00:16:18] is aware of Kevin Smith,
[00:16:19] right?
[00:16:20] Yes.
[00:16:20] That's a safe assumption.
[00:16:21] So one of his good friends
[00:16:23] that he grew up with,
[00:16:23] Brian Johnson,
[00:16:24] decided he wanted to try
[00:16:25] his hand at making a movie.
[00:16:26] So he wrote a movie
[00:16:27] where the premise,
[00:16:28] and it's,
[00:16:29] I mean,
[00:16:30] credit where credit's due,
[00:16:32] he had the balls
[00:16:32] to make the movie
[00:16:33] and I get that.
[00:16:34] And from a technical standpoint,
[00:16:36] it's fine.
[00:16:37] There's no glaring.
[00:16:38] What's bad is the story.
[00:16:41] The story's really bad.
[00:16:42] The script is horrendous
[00:16:43] because the premise is
[00:16:44] Brian O'Halloran
[00:16:46] of Clerks fame,
[00:16:47] Dante,
[00:16:48] his character in the movie
[00:16:49] decides that
[00:16:50] it'd be a great idea
[00:16:52] for a business
[00:16:53] to basically be like
[00:16:54] a joke shipper clown
[00:16:56] for bachelor parties.
[00:16:57] Oh, I do know this movie.
[00:16:59] I do know this movie.
[00:17:00] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:17:01] I'm familiar.
[00:17:02] Yes.
[00:17:03] Yeah.
[00:17:04] And his first ever call
[00:17:07] are people that
[00:17:09] set him up for
[00:17:13] rowdiness,
[00:17:14] shall we say.
[00:17:15] And then the rest of the movie
[00:17:16] is basically about him
[00:17:18] like,
[00:17:20] oh, he's not recovering,
[00:17:21] not getting,
[00:17:22] he gets revenge.
[00:17:24] I'm not going to
[00:17:25] dive too deep
[00:17:27] into that movie
[00:17:27] because we're here
[00:17:27] talking about Dragon Ball,
[00:17:28] but it's,
[00:17:29] it's,
[00:17:29] but there's so many parts
[00:17:30] of that movie
[00:17:30] where it's like,
[00:17:31] this would,
[00:17:32] like,
[00:17:33] this person's either
[00:17:34] a fucking idiot
[00:17:36] or this is contrived
[00:17:37] as shit.
[00:17:38] One of the two.
[00:17:38] And it's really hard
[00:17:39] to get behind
[00:17:40] a protagonist
[00:17:41] that's stupid,
[00:17:42] except Goku.
[00:17:43] Yeah, I mean,
[00:17:45] Goku's not,
[00:17:46] that,
[00:17:46] that,
[00:17:46] I will,
[00:17:47] I take umbrage
[00:17:48] with that characterization,
[00:17:49] especially if you watch
[00:17:51] the original Dragon Ball
[00:17:52] because Goku is actually
[00:17:54] very smart.
[00:17:55] He's just,
[00:17:55] he's just very smart
[00:17:56] about one thing.
[00:17:58] Um,
[00:17:58] and when,
[00:17:59] and when people are like,
[00:18:00] oh,
[00:18:01] Goku be dumb,
[00:18:02] an essential foundation
[00:18:03] of hurdle tournament training
[00:18:05] is the,
[00:18:05] is the education.
[00:18:06] Like,
[00:18:07] they must take a part
[00:18:08] of the day
[00:18:09] to study
[00:18:09] and further their minds.
[00:18:11] Everyone forgets that part.
[00:18:13] Sleep well,
[00:18:14] eat well,
[00:18:15] rest plenty.
[00:18:17] Yeah,
[00:18:17] exactly.
[00:18:20] Carry milk.
[00:18:22] I mean,
[00:18:22] I,
[00:18:22] I,
[00:18:23] Goku is a simpleton,
[00:18:24] I think is a better way
[00:18:25] to put it.
[00:18:26] And I don't mean that
[00:18:26] disparagingly.
[00:18:27] He's not,
[00:18:28] he's not,
[00:18:29] he ain't getting
[00:18:30] a college degree.
[00:18:31] Yeah,
[00:18:32] yeah.
[00:18:32] He's not a depth character.
[00:18:33] Yeah.
[00:18:34] He's,
[00:18:34] he's not,
[00:18:34] he's not,
[00:18:35] he's not a very deep character.
[00:18:36] He wasn't meant to be.
[00:18:38] No,
[00:18:38] no,
[00:18:39] he's not.
[00:18:40] Japanese equivalent
[00:18:41] of a,
[00:18:41] of a Southern pumpkin
[00:18:42] essentially is what he is.
[00:18:44] No,
[00:18:45] I mean,
[00:18:45] literally that's true.
[00:18:46] And what I would kind of like,
[00:18:48] it would not play well
[00:18:50] because again,
[00:18:50] the accents come off
[00:18:52] very differently,
[00:18:52] but yeah,
[00:18:53] the Japanese equivalent
[00:18:54] to Goku,
[00:18:55] like translated,
[00:18:56] should be something
[00:18:56] around the lines of up,
[00:18:58] you know,
[00:18:58] I live up in mountains,
[00:19:00] I punch shit all day.
[00:19:02] Pretty much.
[00:19:02] I just wanna fight.
[00:19:04] You know,
[00:19:04] there's a joke.
[00:19:05] I just wanna go in the corner
[00:19:05] of bumfucked Egypt
[00:19:06] and you got a purdy mouth.
[00:19:09] There's a joke
[00:19:10] in a Dragon Ball Super
[00:19:12] that doesn't work
[00:19:13] in the dub
[00:19:14] because it's clearly reflective
[00:19:16] of how he speaks
[00:19:17] in Japanese,
[00:19:18] of the way he speaks
[00:19:19] to the Omni King
[00:19:20] and that joke
[00:19:21] just does not work
[00:19:23] in English.
[00:19:24] Exactly.
[00:19:24] Yeah,
[00:19:24] that's,
[00:19:25] that's true
[00:19:25] because,
[00:19:26] so,
[00:19:26] we're gonna nerd out.
[00:19:27] Because I'm buddy
[00:19:28] and it's not the same thing.
[00:19:29] Yeah,
[00:19:30] not at all.
[00:19:30] Well,
[00:19:31] and the joke lies
[00:19:31] in the fact that
[00:19:32] when you speak Japanese,
[00:19:34] there's a,
[00:19:34] I'm not even gonna call it a die,
[00:19:35] it's a manner of speaking
[00:19:36] called keigo,
[00:19:38] which is just a super formal
[00:19:39] that English doesn't really
[00:19:41] have an equivalent to.
[00:19:43] Not really.
[00:19:44] And they had the same problem
[00:19:45] in Naruto
[00:19:46] because Rock Lee,
[00:19:47] the character in Japanese,
[00:19:48] speaks in keigo
[00:19:49] to everyone.
[00:19:51] So,
[00:19:52] the best thing
[00:19:53] they could come up with
[00:19:54] when they translated
[00:19:54] it into the English dubs
[00:19:55] is that he doesn't
[00:19:57] use contractions.
[00:19:58] And I think they,
[00:19:59] I think they eventually,
[00:20:00] I didn't watch
[00:20:01] the English show of Naruto
[00:20:02] because it was abysmally bad,
[00:20:04] but I believe
[00:20:05] that they actually dropped that
[00:20:07] because it sounded so stupid.
[00:20:10] I'm not sure though.
[00:20:12] See,
[00:20:12] I think if I recall,
[00:20:13] I don't watch Naruto,
[00:20:15] Jordan does,
[00:20:15] but every time I come out,
[00:20:17] I think my one note about him
[00:20:18] is if you watch Digimon,
[00:20:19] he's just Davis.
[00:20:20] He's just like,
[00:20:21] he just sounds like Davis
[00:20:23] and it's like the most
[00:20:23] distracting thing about him.
[00:20:25] I've never seen either.
[00:20:28] You might have,
[00:20:29] really?
[00:20:30] Pokemon,
[00:20:31] Pokemon,
[00:20:32] nor Naruto.
[00:20:33] No,
[00:20:33] Digimon.
[00:20:33] You just mentioned both those.
[00:20:35] Oh,
[00:20:35] no.
[00:20:35] I miss,
[00:20:35] I miss Naruto.
[00:20:37] Yeah.
[00:20:38] I watched like Cowboy Bebop
[00:20:39] and what was the other ones
[00:20:42] on late night?
[00:20:43] Rurouni Kenshin.
[00:20:44] Rurouni Kenshin was good.
[00:20:46] Outlaw Star,
[00:20:47] a little hidden gem.
[00:20:49] Yu Yu Hakusho.
[00:20:50] Yu Yu Hakusho's the shit,
[00:20:51] man.
[00:20:52] I love Yu Hakusho.
[00:20:53] So good.
[00:20:53] I,
[00:20:54] I was not,
[00:20:55] weirdly,
[00:20:55] I,
[00:20:56] I grew up quite enjoying Sailor Moon.
[00:20:58] I,
[00:20:58] I,
[00:20:59] I,
[00:20:59] so,
[00:20:59] so here's the thing though.
[00:21:02] Um,
[00:21:03] so we got the,
[00:21:04] I don't know about Justin cause it was,
[00:21:06] it may have been different in Canada.
[00:21:07] We got the four kids.
[00:21:09] I don't remember.
[00:21:11] My,
[00:21:11] my friends always referred to it as,
[00:21:13] and I quote,
[00:21:14] uh,
[00:21:14] the bastardized version.
[00:21:16] So I'm assuming it's not good either way.
[00:21:17] That's the four kids stuff.
[00:21:19] Yeah.
[00:21:19] Um,
[00:21:19] and for those of you who aren't aware,
[00:21:21] Justin of the spur of the moment podcast hails from Vancouver,
[00:21:23] Canada.
[00:21:24] So some,
[00:21:25] some of these properties we're talking about,
[00:21:28] he got different versions than we did.
[00:21:30] So it's kind of fun to compare notes.
[00:21:32] I've seen three versions of,
[00:21:33] of not drag Dragon Ball generally,
[00:21:37] but yeah,
[00:21:37] I didn't grow up with Funimation.
[00:21:40] I think I didn't grow up.
[00:21:41] We were talking about ocean group before you got on.
[00:21:43] Uh,
[00:21:44] yeah,
[00:21:44] that's my,
[00:21:45] I realized that it's funny cause he,
[00:21:47] uh,
[00:21:48] Jake's been releasing shorts of,
[00:21:50] uh,
[00:21:50] when I first went on his podcast for the first time.
[00:21:52] And it's been so funny cause since I did that,
[00:21:54] I rewatched dead zone and yeah,
[00:21:57] man,
[00:21:57] the,
[00:21:57] the ocean group dog of that movie is the best version.
[00:22:02] It's just objectively is way better.
[00:22:05] I know the clip you're talking about.
[00:22:07] And I was sitting there like,
[00:22:09] fuck,
[00:22:09] I can't have fast this.
[00:22:10] I got to put the examples in because I,
[00:22:13] the scream.
[00:22:13] Yeah.
[00:22:14] You were right about the scream.
[00:22:15] Absolutely.
[00:22:16] As someone who likes Chris for Saturday,
[00:22:19] was that,
[00:22:20] was that the one?
[00:22:21] I know that's the world's strongest,
[00:22:23] but similar,
[00:22:24] similar.
[00:22:24] Okay.
[00:22:25] I'm referring to dead zone.
[00:22:27] As somebody who likes Chris,
[00:22:28] Scott McNeil screams circles around that dude.
[00:22:31] Oh,
[00:22:32] I mean,
[00:22:33] Piccolo.
[00:22:33] Yeah.
[00:22:34] Yeah.
[00:22:34] Scott McNeil is not a human being.
[00:22:36] I don't know what he is,
[00:22:37] but also I have to,
[00:22:39] I think I fact checked myself in the comment,
[00:22:41] but I do have to,
[00:22:42] um,
[00:22:43] it's Peter Kalamis is the Goku in that.
[00:22:45] Not,
[00:22:45] not Kirby Moro.
[00:22:46] I think I said Kirby Moro,
[00:22:47] but it's actually Peter Kalamis.
[00:22:48] He's the Goku I grew up with.
[00:22:50] But who?
[00:22:50] Yeah.
[00:22:51] That's the one.
[00:22:52] He did also play Goku,
[00:22:54] but the one I was thinking of when I said Kirby Moro was Peter Kalamis.
[00:22:58] Okay.
[00:22:58] Gotcha.
[00:22:58] Well,
[00:22:59] Kirby Moro,
[00:23:00] when did he play Goku?
[00:23:01] I don't know.
[00:23:02] I just,
[00:23:02] I've,
[00:23:03] I've watched a lot of,
[00:23:04] because I,
[00:23:04] I'm really into,
[00:23:05] I'm weirdly into voice actors.
[00:23:07] Like I,
[00:23:08] I,
[00:23:08] my,
[00:23:08] my like big,
[00:23:09] like tech idea.
[00:23:12] Sorry.
[00:23:12] Who's your favorite voice actor?
[00:23:14] Oh,
[00:23:15] I've got so many.
[00:23:17] Um,
[00:23:17] top,
[00:23:18] top three,
[00:23:19] top three.
[00:23:20] I love,
[00:23:20] I love me a Rob Paulson.
[00:23:23] Uh,
[00:23:23] I love Jim Cummings.
[00:23:25] Um,
[00:23:25] I'm a huge Jim Cummings fan.
[00:23:26] That dude is insane.
[00:23:28] I met him at a convention once.
[00:23:29] He was so nice.
[00:23:30] He did a weird thing where he puffed out his chest and made a joke about it.
[00:23:33] It was very odd.
[00:23:34] Oh,
[00:23:34] he played Winnie the Pooh.
[00:23:36] He did play Winnie.
[00:23:37] That was like that.
[00:23:38] He,
[00:23:38] he dropped,
[00:23:39] he dropped an F bomb.
[00:23:40] There was,
[00:23:40] they,
[00:23:41] that was,
[00:23:41] they,
[00:23:41] they started doing,
[00:23:42] um,
[00:23:44] radio plays like star Wars radio plays.
[00:23:46] And they had a bunch of voice actors play different characters.
[00:23:48] And he did,
[00:23:49] uh,
[00:23:51] Winnie the Pooh and he had Winnie the Pooh drop an F bomb.
[00:23:55] And,
[00:23:55] and,
[00:23:55] and,
[00:23:55] and it was one of the greatest moments of my life.
[00:23:58] I,
[00:23:58] I never knew I needed it,
[00:23:59] but,
[00:23:59] but I did,
[00:24:00] I needed it.
[00:24:01] It was amazing.
[00:24:03] But,
[00:24:04] who else?
[00:24:04] I,
[00:24:04] I,
[00:24:05] I,
[00:24:08] I,
[00:24:08] I,
[00:24:11] I,
[00:24:11] I love me a Sean Schimmel.
[00:24:12] I think,
[00:24:13] um,
[00:24:13] Andrew Randall's.
[00:24:14] Get your hand out of the honey pot.
[00:24:16] It's,
[00:24:16] it's,
[00:24:16] it's,
[00:24:17] it's,
[00:24:17] that's exactly what it was.
[00:24:18] That's exactly what it was.
[00:24:19] It was,
[00:24:20] it was,
[00:24:20] it was great.
[00:24:21] I was about to say,
[00:24:22] get your hand out of there.
[00:24:24] I was going to lapse into Herbert the pervert.
[00:24:26] Get your hand out of there.
[00:24:28] Okay.
[00:24:29] The honey's over 9,000.
[00:24:32] I'm so tired of you.
[00:24:37] Get your fat ass back over here.
[00:24:41] Come on,
[00:24:42] come on.
[00:24:47] Oh my gosh.
[00:24:48] Um,
[00:24:49] okay.
[00:24:50] So the whole,
[00:24:50] the whole,
[00:24:51] the whole impetus of this was one,
[00:24:53] a Dragon Ball voice actor died,
[00:24:54] right?
[00:24:55] The narrator.
[00:24:56] I don't want to be cold.
[00:24:57] The narrator.
[00:24:57] But we were wrong because we thought it was the,
[00:25:00] Isn't it Kyle Hebert?
[00:25:02] No,
[00:25:02] no,
[00:25:02] he was an ocean group narrator.
[00:25:04] Yeah.
[00:25:04] Doc Harris.
[00:25:06] Who,
[00:25:06] who did he narrate?
[00:25:07] Which one did he narrate for?
[00:25:09] He narrated for the ocean group.
[00:25:11] Oh,
[00:25:12] for ocean group.
[00:25:13] Oh,
[00:25:13] okay.
[00:25:14] He's got credit.
[00:25:15] He's got credit for a dead zone.
[00:25:17] Uh,
[00:25:18] a couple other ones.
[00:25:20] Like the first,
[00:25:20] he just,
[00:25:21] he just switched.
[00:25:22] Oh,
[00:25:23] okay.
[00:25:23] Yeah.
[00:25:23] You,
[00:25:24] you listed earlier the episodes.
[00:25:26] Oh,
[00:25:26] okay.
[00:25:26] Cause I didn't recognize the next episode.
[00:25:29] I'd say,
[00:25:30] I know Kyle Hebert.
[00:25:31] That's the one I know.
[00:25:31] Yeah.
[00:25:32] Dragon Ball Z.
[00:25:34] Like that.
[00:25:34] I think that free sense or foes.
[00:25:36] Do do do do do do do do do.
[00:25:37] I'm pretty sure that's Kyle Hebert.
[00:25:39] That,
[00:25:39] that one.
[00:25:40] Next time on Dragon Ball.
[00:25:41] I'm pretty sure that's Kyle.
[00:25:42] Yeah.
[00:25:42] Next time.
[00:25:43] I like how his,
[00:25:44] that was bad.
[00:25:44] I didn't know little,
[00:25:46] is little Nikki the narrator?
[00:25:48] Little Nikki.
[00:25:49] That was,
[00:25:50] that was bad.
[00:25:52] Dragon Ball Z.
[00:25:54] Hey,
[00:25:54] Harry.
[00:25:55] You're the ball.
[00:25:56] You fucking idiot.
[00:25:59] Hey,
[00:26:00] Val.
[00:26:01] So,
[00:26:02] okay.
[00:26:02] The idea,
[00:26:04] the,
[00:26:04] the other thing you posted in one of your shorts was the Canadian,
[00:26:07] the Canadian Dragon Ball GT theme song.
[00:26:09] It's awful,
[00:26:10] dude.
[00:26:11] It's fucking terrible.
[00:26:13] It's offbeat and terrible.
[00:26:15] That is,
[00:26:16] not only does that massively miss the entire point of that show,
[00:26:19] but,
[00:26:20] um,
[00:26:20] if you ever hear me and Jordan refer to it as Dragon Balls,
[00:26:24] that's Dragon Ball Z,
[00:26:26] that's why.
[00:26:26] Cause it's cause the rhythm goes,
[00:26:28] Dragon Balls,
[00:26:29] Drakens Balls GT.
[00:26:31] It makes me laugh every time.
[00:26:33] Yes.
[00:26:33] It's bad.
[00:26:34] It's genuinely bad.
[00:26:34] It's funny.
[00:26:35] I looked that up for the clip and honestly,
[00:26:37] I'm watching this.
[00:26:37] I'm like,
[00:26:38] huh?
[00:26:38] I think I'll take the rap.
[00:26:41] I look,
[00:26:43] I,
[00:26:43] not that I prefer it.
[00:26:45] They're both hilarious in their own way,
[00:26:47] but it at least sounds roughly like the original theme song.
[00:26:51] You know,
[00:26:51] what bothers me about it is the fact that they don't,
[00:26:53] they sing half the song.
[00:26:56] Cause they,
[00:26:57] they like alternate verses.
[00:26:59] And I mean,
[00:27:00] the translation is obviously not.
[00:27:02] No.
[00:27:03] Cause they're,
[00:27:03] they're making a generic kids,
[00:27:05] which some,
[00:27:05] I mean,
[00:27:06] rock the dragon.
[00:27:06] Hello.
[00:27:07] Kick-ass opener.
[00:27:08] Yeah.
[00:27:08] But,
[00:27:09] uh,
[00:27:09] that one is just like,
[00:27:10] it's like,
[00:27:11] okay,
[00:27:11] we're going to sing this verse.
[00:27:14] And then we're going to sing this verse.
[00:27:17] It,
[00:27:17] it,
[00:27:18] it reminds me of,
[00:27:19] of,
[00:27:19] and I made this joke to Jordan,
[00:27:20] the Pokemon theme song in that it's very much a case of,
[00:27:24] of,
[00:27:24] of people who clearly didn't watch the show and needed to write a theme song
[00:27:28] in a half an hour.
[00:27:29] Like,
[00:27:30] the Pokemon theme is pretty strong though.
[00:27:34] It is.
[00:27:35] But when you listen to the lyrics,
[00:27:37] it's more like,
[00:27:38] they don't know what a Pokemon is.
[00:27:39] It's more like a Digimon theme.
[00:27:42] Yeah.
[00:27:42] I was like,
[00:27:43] we're holding hands and we're,
[00:27:44] we're running together and we're adventuring.
[00:27:46] They,
[00:27:47] they,
[00:27:47] they,
[00:27:47] they composed the Digimon theme and they're like,
[00:27:49] okay,
[00:27:49] Digimon short for digital monster.
[00:27:51] Fuck it.
[00:27:52] We got a song.
[00:27:53] We got it.
[00:27:54] Nailed it.
[00:27:55] Nailed it.
[00:27:56] What's this about?
[00:27:56] What's this about Monsters Wrestling?
[00:27:58] So like one of them was the champion.
[00:28:00] Cool.
[00:28:00] We got this.
[00:28:01] Cool.
[00:28:01] We,
[00:28:01] we got this.
[00:28:03] Nailed it.
[00:28:04] Hey,
[00:28:05] I know.
[00:28:05] I'm watching,
[00:28:08] I'm currently watching the original Kaniku Man and I'm,
[00:28:11] I am just absolutely enjoying that.
[00:28:13] This shit's funny.
[00:28:14] The shit is funny.
[00:28:14] Honestly,
[00:28:15] honestly,
[00:28:16] Ultimate Muscle reminds me a lot of Dragon Ball.
[00:28:19] Well,
[00:28:19] yeah.
[00:28:19] Dragon Ball Z specifically.
[00:28:20] It reminds me so much of Dragon Ball Z.
[00:28:22] Just in that it's a legacy show that like,
[00:28:26] but weirdly didn't do as well as Dragon Ball Z did.
[00:28:29] Like Dragon Ball Z.
[00:28:30] It's so funny.
[00:28:31] Like shouldn't have worked,
[00:28:34] but it,
[00:28:34] but it does.
[00:28:35] Like I,
[00:28:37] especially because when it came to the West,
[00:28:39] that was the first thing.
[00:28:40] Oh yeah.
[00:28:40] Yeah.
[00:28:40] No,
[00:28:40] that's,
[00:28:41] it just works on its own.
[00:28:42] No,
[00:28:43] that's,
[00:28:43] that's actually fair.
[00:28:44] And it's such an odd,
[00:28:45] like,
[00:28:46] I don't mean to be like kids today.
[00:28:48] Kids today don't understand how just like,
[00:28:51] it's not even luck.
[00:28:53] It's the fact that people were like,
[00:28:55] no,
[00:28:55] we're going to make this show a thing.
[00:28:57] It's going to happen.
[00:28:59] We just got to keep track.
[00:29:00] Let's be honest.
[00:29:01] Let's be honest.
[00:29:02] They,
[00:29:02] they looked more American.
[00:29:03] So therefore they looked like us for the most part.
[00:29:06] Well,
[00:29:06] and you know,
[00:29:06] it's hilarious.
[00:29:07] You know,
[00:29:08] because you know,
[00:29:08] it's big eyes,
[00:29:09] but you know,
[00:29:10] what's funny about that.
[00:29:11] That wasn't,
[00:29:11] that wasn't that,
[00:29:12] that art style was not intended to.
[00:29:14] Someone joked about this one time.
[00:29:16] That's the only reason I brought that up.
[00:29:18] Well,
[00:29:18] no,
[00:29:18] the irony of that is that the,
[00:29:20] the sort of anime manga art style was not the common myth,
[00:29:24] which I don't know if it's common anymore,
[00:29:25] because it's probably been debunked thanks to high speed internet,
[00:29:28] but sort of the myth before was that the Japanese animation studios were
[00:29:32] purposefully westernizing the character designs to make them appeal to a mass
[00:29:37] market.
[00:29:37] And that's just not true.
[00:29:39] Like,
[00:29:40] I would have never got that.
[00:29:41] No,
[00:29:42] because the early anime had no intention whatsoever of going overseas,
[00:29:45] but a bunch of people.
[00:29:48] It's today.
[00:29:49] Don't understand.
[00:29:50] Okay.
[00:29:51] Grandpa.
[00:29:52] Who's grandpa?
[00:29:53] Me.
[00:29:54] I want to know.
[00:29:56] Sometimes,
[00:29:56] sometimes parents just don't understand.
[00:29:59] Just don't understand.
[00:30:01] Wait,
[00:30:02] you just dated yourself by like 30 years.
[00:30:04] No,
[00:30:04] actually I watched,
[00:30:05] I watched Jersey girl last night and they have,
[00:30:07] yeah.
[00:30:09] What?
[00:30:10] They had that.
[00:30:11] Sorry.
[00:30:12] Sorry.
[00:30:12] Sorry.
[00:30:13] Why did you watch Jersey girl?
[00:30:15] Like the worst Kevin Smith movie.
[00:30:17] That is not true,
[00:30:18] sir.
[00:30:19] It's not even close to being the worst Kevin Smith.
[00:30:21] Have you seen dusk?
[00:30:23] Oh yeah.
[00:30:25] But,
[00:30:26] but that has my favorite Canadian line,
[00:30:28] which is,
[00:30:29] what was it?
[00:30:30] Harley Morrison from,
[00:30:31] from epic mealtime is like,
[00:30:32] uh,
[00:30:33] you Americans,
[00:30:34] maybe,
[00:30:35] uh,
[00:30:35] red,
[00:30:36] white,
[00:30:36] and blue.
[00:30:37] Uh,
[00:30:38] what was it?
[00:30:38] But when you're in Canada,
[00:30:39] you're,
[00:30:40] you're never red,
[00:30:41] white,
[00:30:41] and blue.
[00:30:41] Hey,
[00:30:42] Oh,
[00:30:42] I think if,
[00:30:43] I think I've butchered it,
[00:30:44] but that sounds like a Kevin Smith line.
[00:30:46] No man,
[00:30:47] Jersey girl is actually,
[00:30:48] when's the last time you watched it?
[00:30:49] I've honestly,
[00:30:50] I'm honestly,
[00:30:51] I'm just mostly just joshing.
[00:30:52] I've honestly never seen it.
[00:30:53] It's on my list.
[00:30:54] I want to see all of his movies.
[00:30:55] That's my goal.
[00:30:56] So here's the thing about Jersey girl.
[00:30:57] It's a horrible Kevin Smith movie,
[00:31:00] but that makes it a really good,
[00:31:02] just general.
[00:31:03] Like it's,
[00:31:03] it's not,
[00:31:04] it's nothing special.
[00:31:06] It's,
[00:31:06] I mean,
[00:31:06] I surprised you didn't go to yoga hosers.
[00:31:07] That,
[00:31:08] that I've heard is allegedly his worst movie.
[00:31:10] I mean,
[00:31:11] I was,
[00:31:11] I was getting there.
[00:31:12] I haven't seen yoga,
[00:31:13] yoga hosers,
[00:31:15] but I know moose jaws,
[00:31:17] you know,
[00:31:18] but it was a moose.
[00:31:19] I wanted moose jaws.
[00:31:21] Well,
[00:31:22] but anyway,
[00:31:23] and,
[00:31:23] but apparently he's got a new movie coming out that actually seems to be from what
[00:31:27] I,
[00:31:28] from the buzz I'm getting,
[00:31:29] it actually sounds like it's going to be quite good.
[00:31:31] The four 30.
[00:31:31] I've heard good things.
[00:31:32] Yeah.
[00:31:32] I've heard good things.
[00:31:33] It was coming here.
[00:31:35] I want,
[00:31:35] I want,
[00:31:36] I've,
[00:31:37] I've met the man like twice and he is like the nicest guy I've ever met.
[00:31:41] So like,
[00:31:43] he also wants very badly to just be Canadian.
[00:31:47] I mean,
[00:31:47] yeah,
[00:31:48] he,
[00:31:48] he quite likes it here.
[00:31:49] Yeah.
[00:31:50] He loves Tim Hortons.
[00:31:51] What is Tim Hortons?
[00:31:52] Isn't Canadian?
[00:31:54] No,
[00:31:54] he's from New Jersey.
[00:31:55] I thought he was from New Jersey.
[00:31:56] Oh no,
[00:31:57] no.
[00:31:58] He,
[00:31:58] he,
[00:31:58] he,
[00:31:59] I mean,
[00:31:59] real quick,
[00:32:00] Kevin Smith died,
[00:32:01] right?
[00:32:01] But he,
[00:32:01] he did go to Vancouver film school for like a year and then dropped out
[00:32:07] before months.
[00:32:08] Yeah.
[00:32:08] Yeah.
[00:32:08] He,
[00:32:09] he shot a bunch of the,
[00:32:10] the CW flash,
[00:32:12] like a ton of it.
[00:32:13] He directed like multiple episodes.
[00:32:14] So he,
[00:32:16] he actually,
[00:32:16] I worked,
[00:32:17] I worked out of a drive through,
[00:32:18] Tim Hortons drive through for years.
[00:32:20] He actually came through my drive through one day,
[00:32:22] opened up my,
[00:32:22] my drive through window,
[00:32:23] a walk to pot smoke flowed out.
[00:32:25] And it was like,
[00:32:25] Holy shit.
[00:32:26] There's Kevin Smith.
[00:32:27] I live to put it to you this way.
[00:32:29] Yeah,
[00:32:30] pretty much.
[00:32:30] Like I think you could,
[00:32:31] I went back and watched on the security cameras.
[00:32:33] Like later,
[00:32:34] you can literally see me do a triple take and him be,
[00:32:37] him like clearly be bemused that I recognized him.
[00:32:40] He was very nice.
[00:32:41] It's hungry,
[00:32:41] Bob.
[00:32:42] Yeah.
[00:32:43] Well,
[00:32:43] I was,
[00:32:43] I'm putting it in perspective.
[00:32:45] I'm like 45 minutes,
[00:32:47] like away from Vancouver.
[00:32:49] Like I'm,
[00:32:50] I'm in the,
[00:32:51] I'm in like the boonies,
[00:32:52] the middle of butt fuck nowhere.
[00:32:53] So for anyone famous to be out here is like,
[00:32:56] why?
[00:32:57] Anyway,
[00:32:59] I digress.
[00:33:00] I don't know about that.
[00:33:00] You're close enough to Vancouver.
[00:33:02] I mean,
[00:33:03] yeah.
[00:33:04] Yeah.
[00:33:04] It's one of those things where you,
[00:33:05] you really only come out here to,
[00:33:09] smallville used to film.
[00:33:10] It's a Kent farm scenes out here.
[00:33:12] That's,
[00:33:13] that's what you come out here for stuff.
[00:33:14] Stuff like that.
[00:33:16] Gotcha.
[00:33:17] Yeah.
[00:33:17] In our neck of the woods,
[00:33:19] you'll see what nowhere looks like.
[00:33:21] Yeah.
[00:33:21] Fair enough.
[00:33:24] For miles.
[00:33:25] Yeah.
[00:33:25] We went to a,
[00:33:26] we went to a school that was in a town so small that it literally has one
[00:33:30] stoplight.
[00:33:31] Oh,
[00:33:32] so you're,
[00:33:32] you're a one,
[00:33:33] a one,
[00:33:34] uh,
[00:33:35] one horse town.
[00:33:36] And it was,
[00:33:37] and it was,
[00:33:37] and it was a new,
[00:33:38] it was a new stuff.
[00:33:39] I don't know if it was new,
[00:33:40] but I mean,
[00:33:41] it was probably newer than a lot of the town,
[00:33:43] but anyway.
[00:33:44] I digress.
[00:33:45] It's not,
[00:33:45] it's not quite Mount Paisu in terms of its seclusion,
[00:33:48] but it's close.
[00:33:50] All right.
[00:33:50] Here's a,
[00:33:51] are you guys,
[00:33:51] I mean,
[00:33:52] you guys video game boys play,
[00:33:54] play the occasional video game?
[00:33:56] Yeah.
[00:33:56] Very occasional now.
[00:33:58] Because,
[00:33:58] because the only reason why I mentioned it is because Jordan just picked up
[00:34:01] sparking zero.
[00:34:02] And,
[00:34:03] I was going to ask if anybody had played it yet.
[00:34:06] Cause it looks,
[00:34:06] I just started playing it today.
[00:34:09] And,
[00:34:09] and in terms of like a,
[00:34:10] what if,
[00:34:11] if you,
[00:34:11] if you,
[00:34:11] if you've ever like,
[00:34:12] I want to play dragon ball.
[00:34:14] I want like dragon ball.
[00:34:15] What if like the Marvel,
[00:34:16] what if that's pretty much what that game is?
[00:34:20] Like you,
[00:34:20] you basically start off,
[00:34:22] you can pick any kind of character you want.
[00:34:23] And like you start off at the beginning.
[00:34:25] I'm just at the beginning and you can either choose to go with Piccolo like
[00:34:30] normal,
[00:34:31] or you can choose to go on your own.
[00:34:33] And then Krillin will accompany you.
[00:34:35] And they'll basically become the turtle hermit school versus Raditz.
[00:34:38] And you can beat Raditz and then Goku doesn't die.
[00:34:42] And then you find out what comes out from that.
[00:34:44] And it turns into Goku becomes super Saiyan when he fights Ozaru Goku.
[00:34:49] So then when it was Ozaru Vegeta.
[00:34:51] So then when he,
[00:34:52] when they go to Namiq,
[00:34:53] he goes to Namiq by himself and the Vegeta shows up and he's super Saiyan.
[00:34:57] And it branches off.
[00:34:58] You can make all kinds of different choices and different,
[00:35:00] any different outcomes or whatever.
[00:35:02] Yeah.
[00:35:02] I saw,
[00:35:03] I saw,
[00:35:03] I saw a video showing that today and I'm like,
[00:35:05] ah,
[00:35:05] damn it.
[00:35:06] I kind of buy it.
[00:35:08] Yeah.
[00:35:08] It looks pretty cool.
[00:35:09] You said.
[00:35:10] Yeah.
[00:35:11] All right.
[00:35:12] Yeah.
[00:35:13] I was like,
[00:35:13] I wasn't interested in it.
[00:35:15] Cause like at this point,
[00:35:16] when it comes to dragon ball Z video games,
[00:35:17] it's like how many different times can you fight Raditz?
[00:35:20] But it's like when it's,
[00:35:21] when it's like different,
[00:35:22] like that,
[00:35:23] like,
[00:35:23] okay,
[00:35:23] you've piqued my interest.
[00:35:25] No,
[00:35:25] I think there's a very concerted effort.
[00:35:27] And I think this was in effect before territory.
[00:35:30] Ama died,
[00:35:31] but toe,
[00:35:33] a,
[00:35:34] you know,
[00:35:35] understood that this is a product that is beloved,
[00:35:38] but can get stale very quickly.
[00:35:41] Yeah.
[00:35:42] Particularly in the video.
[00:35:43] Cause it's like you said,
[00:35:44] how many times can you fight Raditz?
[00:35:45] And Xenoverse and Xenoverse kind of played with the idea of what if,
[00:35:50] but not really,
[00:35:51] because everything stayed.
[00:35:53] The whole point of Xenoverse was to keep the cannon going.
[00:35:56] That was your job.
[00:35:57] Whereas it sounds like sparkling zero.
[00:35:58] It's just like,
[00:35:59] whatever you want.
[00:36:01] Yeah,
[00:36:01] pretty much.
[00:36:02] Yeah.
[00:36:02] You could do kind of whatever.
[00:36:03] And I always love when I think it's like,
[00:36:05] you can do whatever.
[00:36:07] Cause it's way more like,
[00:36:08] I like Xenoverse because it's doing stuff.
[00:36:11] I mean,
[00:36:11] I make fun of heroes,
[00:36:12] but I like those because it's doing stuff that's more interesting and it's
[00:36:15] moving the cannon forward in a way that like super just can't like super is
[00:36:20] forever going to be jogging in place.
[00:36:22] But I mean,
[00:36:23] Jordan talked about this.
[00:36:24] I would like to see Toyotaro take a crack at the anime.
[00:36:28] I genuinely,
[00:36:29] I would like to see.
[00:36:31] I imagine he's probably going to have to.
[00:36:33] Oh,
[00:36:33] well,
[00:36:33] actually,
[00:36:34] no,
[00:36:34] I take that.
[00:36:34] I don't know.
[00:36:35] No,
[00:36:36] if Japanese studios,
[00:36:37] generally speaking,
[00:36:39] they like to really control their output.
[00:36:43] I think Toriyama had as much say as he did because they knew that
[00:36:46] ultimately if he said,
[00:36:47] fuck it,
[00:36:48] they,
[00:36:48] they'd have another GT because they tried it out already.
[00:36:51] Well,
[00:36:52] I mean,
[00:36:52] super,
[00:36:53] he only has,
[00:36:54] he doesn't,
[00:36:54] he doesn't write super.
[00:36:55] He,
[00:36:55] he only gives,
[00:36:56] I should say writes,
[00:36:58] wrote super.
[00:36:58] He gave creative notes on it.
[00:37:00] Diamond is truly the first series that he's written since Z.
[00:37:05] And so here's the thing about,
[00:37:07] Diamond.
[00:37:08] It looks good,
[00:37:09] man.
[00:37:09] I don't know.
[00:37:10] It looks really good.
[00:37:11] I'm excited for it.
[00:37:12] I'm so,
[00:37:13] it looks so good.
[00:37:13] The big thing for me is Stephanie and Aldani's back.
[00:37:17] Like that's that for me.
[00:37:18] I'm like,
[00:37:19] okay,
[00:37:19] that's,
[00:37:20] she's OG Goku for me.
[00:37:23] Oh,
[00:37:23] for the,
[00:37:24] oh,
[00:37:24] for the kid.
[00:37:25] Wow.
[00:37:26] Yeah.
[00:37:26] Yeah.
[00:37:27] Yeah.
[00:37:27] Yeah.
[00:37:27] Yeah.
[00:37:28] They got her back.
[00:37:29] And she's,
[00:37:29] it's been a different voice actress for a while now.
[00:37:31] And I just don't,
[00:37:31] I just don't care for her.
[00:37:32] So like original Dragon Ball Goku.
[00:37:34] Yeah.
[00:37:35] Original Dragon Ball Goku.
[00:37:37] Oh yeah.
[00:37:38] For the dub.
[00:37:38] Yeah.
[00:37:39] Yeah.
[00:37:39] Okay.
[00:37:40] Now is this,
[00:37:41] the voice isn't exactly the same,
[00:37:43] but it's still like,
[00:37:44] man,
[00:37:45] technically Goku's a little older than he was in the beginning of Dragon Ball.
[00:37:49] So.
[00:37:50] True.
[00:37:50] Well,
[00:37:50] I mean,
[00:37:50] he's technically,
[00:37:51] I mean,
[00:37:52] the,
[00:37:52] the,
[00:37:53] it's technically,
[00:37:53] I mean,
[00:37:54] what he,
[00:37:54] what he,
[00:37:55] what he gets aged,
[00:37:56] what he gets aged down to.
[00:37:57] I mean.
[00:37:58] Yeah.
[00:37:58] And she's,
[00:37:59] she's already technically,
[00:38:00] that's one of the things,
[00:38:01] I mean,
[00:38:02] I look,
[00:38:02] I'm an,
[00:38:02] I'm a Dragon Ball GT apologist through and through,
[00:38:04] but I always appreciated how her performance as kid Goku and Dragon Ball GT and her performance
[00:38:11] is kid Goku and Dragon Ball two decidedly different performances.
[00:38:15] And I was like the,
[00:38:15] the nuance in that is,
[00:38:17] is impressive.
[00:38:17] It's why she's my favorite Goku.
[00:38:19] No,
[00:38:20] I can,
[00:38:20] yeah,
[00:38:20] I can see that and definitely appreciate it for sure.
[00:38:23] For sure.
[00:38:24] So,
[00:38:25] okay.
[00:38:25] That's,
[00:38:25] that's very exciting.
[00:38:26] That's very exciting.
[00:38:27] Also,
[00:38:28] it's coming to,
[00:38:28] it's coming to Netflix on October 11th.
[00:38:31] You guys,
[00:38:31] we get it first.
[00:38:32] Not in North America.
[00:38:34] That's in Japan.
[00:38:35] 18th.
[00:38:36] Really?
[00:38:37] And on Crunchyroll.
[00:38:38] At least,
[00:38:39] so here's the thing about Dima though.
[00:38:41] Cause I read it was coming to America first,
[00:38:43] but that's just what I read.
[00:38:44] That's based on what I read.
[00:38:46] So it's premiering on the 11th in Japan.
[00:38:48] Yeah.
[00:38:50] Interesting.
[00:38:50] Cause I,
[00:38:51] the article I read said that,
[00:38:53] that,
[00:38:53] that it was premiering on 11th and,
[00:38:56] and it was America.
[00:38:57] America was getting it first on October 11th on Netflix.
[00:39:00] Well,
[00:39:01] I don't know if it's North America or just America.
[00:39:03] It just said,
[00:39:03] but here's the thing though.
[00:39:05] I've read conflicting reports.
[00:39:07] So interesting.
[00:39:10] And I got an ad from Netflix saying the 18th.
[00:39:14] Interesting.
[00:39:15] Oh,
[00:39:15] okay.
[00:39:15] Well,
[00:39:15] if you got an ad from Netflix,
[00:39:17] then that would,
[00:39:18] yeah,
[00:39:18] that's what,
[00:39:19] that's what I was like,
[00:39:20] dude,
[00:39:21] Netflix.
[00:39:22] Oh,
[00:39:22] yeah.
[00:39:23] I was shocked.
[00:39:23] So here's the,
[00:39:25] here's the thing though.
[00:39:25] Netflix is making,
[00:39:27] for those of you who may not know,
[00:39:28] Netflix is making a lot of power moves right now.
[00:39:30] For one thing.
[00:39:31] We've known this for a while,
[00:39:32] but you may not be aware.
[00:39:34] WWE Monday night raw is going to be streaming live on Netflix in 2025.
[00:39:38] No kidding.
[00:39:39] Yeah.
[00:39:40] No kidding.
[00:39:40] Netflix is getting,
[00:39:41] cause they,
[00:39:42] they got it before it got postponed.
[00:39:44] Netflix got in on the Floyd Mayweather,
[00:39:46] Jake Paul fight.
[00:39:48] They were going to stream that live on Netflix.
[00:39:51] Wait,
[00:39:51] wait,
[00:39:51] Floyd,
[00:39:52] Floyd,
[00:39:52] wait,
[00:39:52] wait,
[00:39:53] wait,
[00:39:53] I'm sorry.
[00:39:54] Mike Tyson,
[00:39:54] Mike Tyson,
[00:39:55] Mike Tyson.
[00:39:56] Yeah.
[00:39:57] That was a surprising.
[00:39:58] It was going to be like,
[00:39:59] wait,
[00:39:59] they're fighting.
[00:40:00] No,
[00:40:00] but also,
[00:40:01] it's way less of a circus.
[00:40:03] Well,
[00:40:03] and I was,
[00:40:04] yeah,
[00:40:04] for real.
[00:40:05] I was unaware.
[00:40:06] Um,
[00:40:06] I didn't know that they were doing a reboot of Ranma one half,
[00:40:10] the anime.
[00:40:12] Yes,
[00:40:12] I knew that,
[00:40:13] that I knew.
[00:40:13] Um,
[00:40:13] that's on Netflix,
[00:40:15] at least in my friends have always said,
[00:40:17] I need to finish that.
[00:40:18] They're doing a simulcast though.
[00:40:20] So like basically what was doing.
[00:40:23] Netflix is now doing for,
[00:40:25] I mean,
[00:40:26] That's because crunch roll sucks.
[00:40:28] It really does.
[00:40:29] And it,
[00:40:29] see,
[00:40:30] here's the funny thing.
[00:40:31] Crunchyroll sucked.
[00:40:32] Then it got really good.
[00:40:33] And then it sucks again.
[00:40:35] Yeah.
[00:40:35] Yeah.
[00:40:36] Me and Jordan,
[00:40:36] we talked about that on our show this week.
[00:40:38] We were like,
[00:40:38] yeah,
[00:40:38] it's not,
[00:40:39] not,
[00:40:40] not that like serve,
[00:40:41] like not that what they,
[00:40:42] what's on there.
[00:40:42] It doesn't suck.
[00:40:43] It's the literal streaming infrastructure itself is broken and garbage garbage.
[00:40:48] Like it's fun.
[00:40:49] It was so much better.
[00:40:51] Well,
[00:40:51] I see.
[00:40:52] I disagree.
[00:40:53] I didn't like fun.
[00:40:53] Funimation's app functionality all that much.
[00:40:56] And it's like,
[00:40:56] Torrentree roll took the worst parts of Funimation and integrated it into their platform.
[00:41:02] To be fair,
[00:41:03] Funimation was weird.
[00:41:04] It was different depending on what I've watched it on.
[00:41:07] And I'm not even talking just devices like tablet to phone to television.
[00:41:11] My one television,
[00:41:12] the,
[00:41:12] the,
[00:41:13] the infrastructure was completely different from the other one.
[00:41:15] It was truly bizarre.
[00:41:16] And that truly might be why,
[00:41:18] because I didn't use it on a mobile device.
[00:41:20] I always used it on like a smart TV.
[00:41:22] Yeah,
[00:41:22] but it was different depending on my smart TV.
[00:41:24] Yeah.
[00:41:24] No,
[00:41:25] no,
[00:41:25] you're,
[00:41:25] you're right.
[00:41:26] Um,
[00:41:26] but it's,
[00:41:27] I imagine it's like,
[00:41:28] I don't know if you've ever tried to watch a pay-per-view on bleacher report works
[00:41:30] great on your phone.
[00:41:31] It's the shits on a smart TV.
[00:41:34] It's fucking interesting to be to be is it's way to be is better on the mobile device
[00:41:40] because it remembers where you are in the episode on the TV.
[00:41:43] It doesn't.
[00:41:44] It's very strange.
[00:41:45] Yeah.
[00:41:46] And you have to pay for it on the TV.
[00:41:48] It's very bizarre.
[00:41:49] See,
[00:41:49] it's funny here in the States,
[00:41:51] you don't have to pay for it.
[00:41:52] You just have to sign up.
[00:41:53] It's weird.
[00:41:54] Yeah.
[00:41:54] It's very strange.
[00:41:55] It's so odd,
[00:41:57] but maybe does,
[00:41:58] does Canada have like ad,
[00:42:00] uh,
[00:42:00] maybe,
[00:42:01] maybe it isn't.
[00:42:02] You just,
[00:42:02] maybe,
[00:42:03] maybe it is.
[00:42:04] You just sign up for it.
[00:42:05] And it's for free.
[00:42:06] I honestly don't know.
[00:42:06] I forget what benefits you get from,
[00:42:08] because there is a paid version you can get,
[00:42:10] but it's like,
[00:42:11] why would I pay for this?
[00:42:12] Why?
[00:42:13] It defeats the whole purpose of Tubi.
[00:42:14] Oh,
[00:42:15] I think it's,
[00:42:15] I think it's to get rid of ads.
[00:42:17] I think that's what it is.
[00:42:18] Oh,
[00:42:18] okay.
[00:42:19] Okay.
[00:42:19] At that point.
[00:42:19] Yeah,
[00:42:19] that's fair.
[00:42:20] Which to me is,
[00:42:21] I love how we went from ads to back or no ads to back to ads.
[00:42:25] I was just going to say,
[00:42:26] you know,
[00:42:26] what's hilarious.
[00:42:27] And this is where all the streaming services like fucking Hulu,
[00:42:32] Hulu started this shit,
[00:42:34] man.
[00:42:34] And they have now duped everyone into cutting their cable cords.
[00:42:38] And now that most people are off cable,
[00:42:40] they're making you pay.
[00:42:41] They're making you pay for a service that generates advertising revenue.
[00:42:46] Now they're fucking geniuses.
[00:42:48] Yeah.
[00:42:49] I mean,
[00:42:50] it's so crazy.
[00:42:51] Netflix,
[00:42:51] it doesn't still,
[00:42:52] but like,
[00:42:53] I used to be like,
[00:42:55] downgrade,
[00:42:55] you can downgrade.
[00:42:56] Okay.
[00:42:57] Again,
[00:42:57] I don't,
[00:42:57] yeah,
[00:42:57] I did.
[00:42:58] Cause I don't mind ads.
[00:42:59] I actually kind of like ads.
[00:43:00] They let me know what's coming up.
[00:43:01] New stuff.
[00:43:02] I'm,
[00:43:02] I'm fine with them.
[00:43:03] But yeah,
[00:43:04] if you're,
[00:43:05] I don't know.
[00:43:06] Again,
[00:43:06] the Canada pricing structure might be different.
[00:43:08] Yeah.
[00:43:08] The no ads,
[00:43:09] like full HD is,
[00:43:12] I think it's still 20 bucks.
[00:43:13] Isn't it?
[00:43:15] Okay.
[00:43:16] I think,
[00:43:16] I think no ads is 20 bucks.
[00:43:18] Yeah.
[00:43:18] That sounds about right.
[00:43:19] Yeah.
[00:43:19] It's there.
[00:43:21] It's for Netflix.
[00:43:24] I,
[00:43:25] I think like 22,
[00:43:27] 24 or something like that.
[00:43:28] Cause I recently downgraded to the $15 plan.
[00:43:31] Cause I was like,
[00:43:33] I was like,
[00:43:33] y'all are not worth that.
[00:43:34] Guess what?
[00:43:35] Guess how much mine is.
[00:43:37] Six 99.
[00:43:38] You cheap.
[00:43:38] You got the ads,
[00:43:40] dude.
[00:43:41] I don't.
[00:43:41] Yeah.
[00:43:41] It's like,
[00:43:42] it's like three ads per show.
[00:43:44] I don't care.
[00:43:44] But the thing is though,
[00:43:45] you're,
[00:43:45] you're not wrong though,
[00:43:46] because you get to learn about new things that are coming out and whatnot.
[00:43:49] Like maybe even new movies.
[00:43:51] Yeah.
[00:43:52] Like literally there was,
[00:43:53] there was a new Nick Cage movie coming out and I had no idea until literally we were at a hotel literally two nights ago and I was watching it and I was like,
[00:44:01] dude,
[00:44:01] there's a new Nick Cage movie coming out.
[00:44:03] Hey,
[00:44:04] I don't mind them.
[00:44:05] Television's different because when I'm watching like a television show on Tubi,
[00:44:09] usually the ads,
[00:44:10] the ad break is right where the ad break would have been organically when it aired on television.
[00:44:14] So it's way less distracting.
[00:44:16] For me,
[00:44:16] it's when I'm watching it on Amazon prime and it's like mid movie and it's kind of a quiet.
[00:44:21] Hey,
[00:44:21] Jimmy.
[00:44:22] Hey,
[00:44:22] it's a very loud ad.
[00:44:24] Yeah.
[00:44:24] Yeah,
[00:44:24] exactly.
[00:44:25] Yeah.
[00:44:25] It would cut off.
[00:44:26] Holy shit.
[00:44:27] What the fuck?
[00:44:28] No,
[00:44:28] Goku managed to survive.
[00:44:30] Find out next time on the next episode of draft.
[00:44:34] Yeah.
[00:44:35] Then it comes back from four ads.
[00:44:37] And then it goes to the end credits and then you get another ad before the new episode starts.
[00:44:44] I'll always pay attention to the end of the episode because like when they try to do that bullshit of giving ad,
[00:44:48] I'll just back out and then press the new episode.
[00:44:50] And then most times it'll go straight through it.
[00:44:53] You know what I do miss though?
[00:44:54] I don't know if you guys ever got the DVD releases when they first started releasing like the seasons on DVD for Dragon Ball Z.
[00:45:01] Yeah,
[00:45:01] the orange box.
[00:45:01] Yeah,
[00:45:02] the orange box.
[00:45:02] Yeah.
[00:45:03] Yeah.
[00:45:03] I have a couple of those.
[00:45:04] Yeah.
[00:45:04] They had the marathon mode.
[00:45:06] Yeah.
[00:45:07] That was the most useful thing on the fucking front.
[00:45:09] I love that.
[00:45:10] It was so much watching it on,
[00:45:10] watching it on,
[00:45:11] on,
[00:45:11] on,
[00:45:13] recently watched,
[00:45:14] I watched everyone.
[00:45:15] That was my whole goal.
[00:45:16] I want to watch every single episode of Dragon Ball ever in existence.
[00:45:19] And like it,
[00:45:20] it was obnoxious having to skip the ending credits every single time,
[00:45:24] especially in Dragon Ball Z because they,
[00:45:26] I think it's like the second or third one,
[00:45:28] the Gohan one where she's some shrieky lady singing in Japanese.
[00:45:32] It was like,
[00:45:33] Oh,
[00:45:33] I hate this.
[00:45:35] Quick fact.
[00:45:36] How many episodes are in the original Dragon Ball Z?
[00:45:39] Okay.
[00:45:39] Okay.
[00:45:40] Don't,
[00:45:40] I'm going to,
[00:45:40] I'm going to guess 132.
[00:45:43] No.
[00:45:44] Yeah.
[00:45:44] 132.
[00:45:45] Too many?
[00:45:46] 291.
[00:45:47] 291.
[00:45:47] 291.
[00:45:48] 132 is.
[00:45:49] I think it's like.
[00:45:49] The original Funimation was 276.
[00:45:52] And,
[00:45:52] but the original Uncah and Censored is 291.
[00:45:56] Yeah.
[00:45:56] Cause actually they.
[00:45:57] Super the 131.
[00:45:59] Yeah.
[00:45:59] And then the Kai is like 100.
[00:46:01] Kai was 180.
[00:46:03] Wasn't it?
[00:46:04] Or something like that.
[00:46:05] Yeah.
[00:46:05] It wasn't very much.
[00:46:06] Yeah.
[00:46:06] Well,
[00:46:06] cause they got,
[00:46:07] they got rid of all the filler and followed the manga to a T.
[00:46:10] So apparently though,
[00:46:11] according to my friend,
[00:46:12] cause my,
[00:46:12] cause I,
[00:46:13] when I was,
[00:46:14] when I was watching it,
[00:46:15] I was doing a lot of kick talks about it.
[00:46:17] So my one friend was like,
[00:46:17] yeah,
[00:46:18] it's like inspired me to go watch it.
[00:46:19] So she watched Kai and I've never watched Kai,
[00:46:23] but I'm told that it really takes for granted that you've seen the original.
[00:46:26] Like apparently you really need to have seen the original in order to,
[00:46:30] cause it skips over like a great deal.
[00:46:32] She said that that was,
[00:46:33] that was her perspective.
[00:46:34] I saw it in a while.
[00:46:36] It follows the manga.
[00:46:37] So I don't know.
[00:46:37] It skips over a lot.
[00:46:39] Yeah.
[00:46:39] But it skips over a lot of the filler.
[00:46:41] That's what I'm talking about.
[00:46:43] It skips over all the filler,
[00:46:45] but yeah,
[00:46:45] there's not as much filler though.
[00:46:47] The one thing I did notice,
[00:46:48] cause that was a big thing for me when I was watching,
[00:46:49] especially with the original Dragon Ball,
[00:46:51] there's not as much filler in the original Dragon Ball as you think.
[00:46:54] I think overall,
[00:46:54] like not in the original.
[00:46:56] Not in the original Dragon Ball.
[00:46:58] No.
[00:46:58] And Dragon Ball Z it's filler.
[00:47:00] It only has a handful of filler episodes,
[00:47:02] but it has a lot of filler content in episodes.
[00:47:05] And so the thing is when they made Kai,
[00:47:09] not only did they eliminate the filler episodes,
[00:47:11] but they also edited the episodes down to coincide with the manga.
[00:47:15] So events that might've taken place in this episode or now in a previous
[00:47:18] episode,
[00:47:19] because they eliminated sort of IE,
[00:47:21] IE like the Bulma interacting with the Namekian frog shit.
[00:47:26] For example.
[00:47:27] Which did,
[00:47:28] did,
[00:47:28] did happen in the manga,
[00:47:29] but they added to it to fill time.
[00:47:31] Dragon Ball Z though is crazy in how well it's paced.
[00:47:35] Like it's one of those shows where you're like,
[00:47:37] you're watching it.
[00:47:38] You're like two hours have gone past and you've watched like 10 episodes.
[00:47:41] You don't even realize it.
[00:47:42] You're like,
[00:47:42] Whoa,
[00:47:42] what's happened?
[00:47:44] This is going by crazy quick.
[00:47:45] I'm,
[00:47:45] I'm in cell.
[00:47:47] When did that happen?
[00:47:49] Oh,
[00:47:49] thanks for the energy.
[00:47:52] Five minutes ago.
[00:47:54] I got,
[00:47:55] I got to say,
[00:47:55] I love as,
[00:47:56] as much as I love perfect cell,
[00:47:59] which I mean,
[00:47:59] they pretty,
[00:48:00] they pretty much mimic it.
[00:48:01] Uh,
[00:48:02] Takahata one-on-one pretty much mimics it.
[00:48:04] Oh,
[00:48:05] you can Clark and I can Clark,
[00:48:06] Damian Clark,
[00:48:07] Damian Clark.
[00:48:07] Yeah.
[00:48:08] Yeah.
[00:48:08] Damian Clark.
[00:48:09] Yeah.
[00:48:09] He is pretty much just an impression.
[00:48:11] Yeah.
[00:48:11] I mean,
[00:48:11] but like every level,
[00:48:12] every level too though.
[00:48:14] but I mean,
[00:48:15] goddamn perfect.
[00:48:16] Actually just sell in general might be my favorite character from Dragon Ball.
[00:48:20] Yeah.
[00:48:20] Close second to Vegeta in DBZ bridge.
[00:48:23] Oh,
[00:48:24] but cells,
[00:48:25] cells,
[00:48:26] cells,
[00:48:26] between him and Vegeta cells,
[00:48:28] got so many great liners,
[00:48:29] but even at every stage.
[00:48:31] Yeah.
[00:48:32] Cell is hilarious.
[00:48:34] Yeah.
[00:48:35] Yeah.
[00:48:36] Yeah.
[00:48:36] I,
[00:48:36] I,
[00:48:37] it's just such a well-written character.
[00:48:38] I mean,
[00:48:39] to be fair,
[00:48:40] Takahata is also kind of slightly unhinged.
[00:48:42] So like,
[00:48:43] yeah,
[00:48:43] which is funny.
[00:48:44] Cause I normally don't find him Canadian by the way.
[00:48:46] Yeah,
[00:48:47] he is.
[00:48:47] I normally don't find him funny,
[00:48:49] but him is so man.
[00:48:51] I,
[00:48:52] he's got a particular kind of humor.
[00:48:54] I see it was really interesting thing to watch is over on their secondary channel.
[00:48:59] They did a reaction series of reaction videos where they went through the entire series and they talked about it and all that.
[00:49:05] And watching them interact is very,
[00:49:09] you can really get a sense of their writing process.
[00:49:12] And like,
[00:49:13] like you could be like,
[00:49:14] Oh,
[00:49:15] once you,
[00:49:15] once you hear their writing process,
[00:49:16] Oh,
[00:49:17] that's clearly a Taka joke.
[00:49:18] That's a Lanny joke.
[00:49:19] Yeah.
[00:49:19] You,
[00:49:20] you do start to,
[00:49:21] you do start to see him,
[00:49:21] but I just,
[00:49:22] you,
[00:49:23] and from what I understand,
[00:49:25] cause I watched that series too,
[00:49:26] they basically let Taka kind of loose when it came to sell.
[00:49:29] That's why still has a lot of really just like in your face,
[00:49:32] overtly sexual humor that has no,
[00:49:35] there's no stopping him and just kind of random shit.
[00:49:39] But it's like,
[00:49:39] remember that time I took on a whole battle ball team by myself.
[00:49:44] I love how they took the,
[00:49:45] I like,
[00:49:45] I love their creative use of filler in,
[00:49:48] in,
[00:49:48] in that show.
[00:49:50] Like where they turned,
[00:49:51] they turned the filler where it was like Krillin versus a cell.
[00:49:55] And they made it into a nightmare sequence.
[00:49:58] Yeah.
[00:49:59] That's good.
[00:49:59] That was good stuff.
[00:50:01] I was,
[00:50:02] I was so disappointed that they did.
[00:50:05] I understood why they didn't want to do boo.
[00:50:07] I fully get it.
[00:50:08] That arc is self parody.
[00:50:10] So like,
[00:50:11] how,
[00:50:11] how do you parody it further?
[00:50:12] But I really enjoyed.
[00:50:13] Oh,
[00:50:13] you do.
[00:50:14] I was going to say you do the boo bits,
[00:50:16] which is basically all we really needed.
[00:50:19] I agree.
[00:50:19] Yeah,
[00:50:20] I agree.
[00:50:21] I mean,
[00:50:21] they,
[00:50:21] they made the point cause that,
[00:50:22] that it wasn't,
[00:50:23] it's not exactly the same as,
[00:50:26] as what it would have been like,
[00:50:27] had they done it?
[00:50:28] Like they said,
[00:50:29] it's a close approximation.
[00:50:30] Cause there was a lot of input from totally not marking it,
[00:50:33] but like,
[00:50:34] but,
[00:50:35] but also I think when they're unrestrained,
[00:50:37] their stuff's not as good.
[00:50:38] Like,
[00:50:38] I don't think any of the,
[00:50:40] um,
[00:50:42] uh,
[00:50:43] Oh,
[00:50:43] the,
[00:50:43] the,
[00:50:44] the CGI show they're doing about Hiffle.
[00:50:47] Uh,
[00:50:47] I,
[00:50:48] I,
[00:50:48] I don't think that's nearly as good.
[00:50:50] I just,
[00:50:50] it's a lot of,
[00:50:51] or their dragon shorts.
[00:50:52] I'm just like,
[00:50:52] ah,
[00:50:52] it's not as good when it's not being restrained to the original show.
[00:50:56] I just don't think it's,
[00:50:57] I don't think the writing is there.
[00:50:59] And fair enough,
[00:51:00] because I would,
[00:51:01] I would classify them as parody writers,
[00:51:03] not like,
[00:51:04] which I mean,
[00:51:05] I don't know.
[00:51:05] They might have some original ideas that are stellar.
[00:51:07] I just haven't seen them,
[00:51:08] but it's like you said,
[00:51:10] when they're not restrained,
[00:51:12] it's kind of like,
[00:51:14] I think we're,
[00:51:15] we're trying to force this joke here a little too much.
[00:51:18] Yeah.
[00:51:19] Like as much as like get that,
[00:51:20] that,
[00:51:20] that show is a copyright nightmare.
[00:51:23] Uh,
[00:51:24] yeah.
[00:51:26] My disappointing,
[00:51:27] disappointing.
[00:51:28] It ended the way it did,
[00:51:29] but I get it.
[00:51:31] I get it.
[00:51:32] And the finale is genuinely good.
[00:51:34] Like genuinely good.
[00:51:37] It's actually,
[00:51:38] so you're referring to the self finale,
[00:51:40] not the,
[00:51:41] yeah.
[00:51:41] Okay.
[00:51:42] Yeah.
[00:51:42] The,
[00:51:42] the,
[00:51:42] the,
[00:51:43] the,
[00:51:43] the,
[00:51:43] not the epilogue,
[00:51:44] but the actual self finale.
[00:51:45] The epilogue is funny too,
[00:51:47] but no,
[00:51:47] I mean,
[00:51:48] the thing is,
[00:51:48] it's like,
[00:51:49] it's honestly a better story,
[00:51:50] but they've got 20 plus years of hindsight to work with.
[00:51:55] But I mean,
[00:51:56] that's,
[00:51:56] that's what wowed me about DBZ bridge.
[00:51:58] Cause not only is it hilarious,
[00:51:59] there's a lot of moments that are genuinely just better for the characters.
[00:52:03] Like I think my favorite moment in the whole series,
[00:52:06] believe it or not,
[00:52:06] is a TN moment.
[00:52:09] Yeah.
[00:52:09] He's got some good ones.
[00:52:10] The whole,
[00:52:11] but the whole like,
[00:52:12] yeah.
[00:52:12] Fuck power levels.
[00:52:13] Fuck super Saiyans.
[00:52:14] And fuck you.
[00:52:16] Yeah.
[00:52:17] It's so funny because going back and rewatching dragon ball Z a bridge.
[00:52:22] There's a lot of the stuff that not dragon ball Z a bridge,
[00:52:25] the original dragon ball Z.
[00:52:26] You really noticed like those small micro moments that they point out that I had never,
[00:52:31] but you're like,
[00:52:31] Oh my God,
[00:52:32] it's,
[00:52:32] it's right.
[00:52:33] It's all there.
[00:52:34] Like when it's all laid out in front of us,
[00:52:36] it's also poking fun at the fact that like those of us and you know,
[00:52:40] that watch dragon ball Z for the first time in like 96,
[00:52:43] 97,
[00:52:44] we watched it cold.
[00:52:45] We hadn't seen dragon ball.
[00:52:46] So these characters like TN,
[00:52:48] Yamcha,
[00:52:48] Chiaotzu,
[00:52:49] like we're like,
[00:52:51] who the fuck are these people?
[00:52:52] We have no basis.
[00:52:53] Like we have no reason to believe that TN stands a chance against anybody.
[00:52:57] Cause we've never seen a fight,
[00:52:58] but if you've seen dragon ball before,
[00:53:00] you know,
[00:53:01] TN is a force to be reckoned with.
[00:53:03] And so when he,
[00:53:06] when he,
[00:53:07] when he and Yamcha too,
[00:53:08] cause Yamcha's,
[00:53:09] I mean,
[00:53:10] well,
[00:53:10] Yamcha gets Yamcha in dragon ball,
[00:53:12] but not to the same degree,
[00:53:13] but not to the same degree.
[00:53:16] Yamcha is a good fighter.
[00:53:18] So when he dies in the sand saga,
[00:53:20] spoiler alert,
[00:53:20] by the way,
[00:53:21] but I mean,
[00:53:22] you know,
[00:53:23] it,
[00:53:23] you've seen the memes.
[00:53:24] I was going to say,
[00:53:25] even if you haven't seen the show,
[00:53:26] you've seen the memes.
[00:53:27] Um,
[00:53:27] so when Yamcha dies so easily,
[00:53:29] it's just kind of like,
[00:53:30] Oh shit.
[00:53:31] And we just died in original dragon ball too.
[00:53:33] Didn't he?
[00:53:34] Yeah.
[00:53:35] Okay.
[00:53:36] But I mean,
[00:53:36] that's the thing.
[00:53:37] That's the thing.
[00:53:37] The King pickle.
[00:53:38] Not,
[00:53:38] not original.
[00:53:39] That's Krillin.
[00:53:39] Krillin died in original dragon ball.
[00:53:41] Oh,
[00:53:41] I could have sworn,
[00:53:43] I could have sworn Yamcha died too.
[00:53:44] And they brought them all back.
[00:53:45] No,
[00:53:45] no,
[00:53:46] no,
[00:53:46] just,
[00:53:46] just crawl.
[00:53:47] I was wrong.
[00:53:48] Yes.
[00:53:48] Yamcha doesn't die until the same.
[00:53:49] I'm pretty sure.
[00:53:51] So Yamcha does die in the same saga.
[00:53:52] I think you're right.
[00:53:53] But in the,
[00:53:53] in the original,
[00:53:54] in the original dragon ball.
[00:53:55] Yeah.
[00:53:55] Cause Krillin's the only one,
[00:53:57] Krillin and Shoutsu are the only ones that can be wished back.
[00:54:00] Yes.
[00:54:00] With earth dragon balls.
[00:54:00] Because they,
[00:54:01] they had three,
[00:54:02] they had three pods.
[00:54:04] They had three pods.
[00:54:05] Oh,
[00:54:05] it was,
[00:54:06] uh,
[00:54:06] they had three pods in drag,
[00:54:08] the original dragon ball.
[00:54:09] If you remember that,
[00:54:10] that they stored bodies in.
[00:54:12] And one of them was Krillin because he got killed by tambourine.
[00:54:15] And then,
[00:54:16] uh,
[00:54:16] who are the other two?
[00:54:17] Master Roshi.
[00:54:19] Master Roshi.
[00:54:20] And Chowtzu.
[00:54:21] Or who?
[00:54:21] Yeah.
[00:54:22] Chowtzu.
[00:54:23] So,
[00:54:24] yeah,
[00:54:24] that's right.
[00:54:24] That's,
[00:54:25] that's why a lot of people are confused.
[00:54:27] What is he saying?
[00:54:28] They're like,
[00:54:28] why can't Chowtzu come back?
[00:54:29] Yeah.
[00:54:30] What,
[00:54:30] why didn't,
[00:54:31] what did they say in Dragon Ball Z?
[00:54:32] A bridge.
[00:54:32] He's like,
[00:54:33] this will be Chowtzu second time.
[00:54:35] Next time I get a Sunday.
[00:54:37] Yeah.
[00:54:37] Yeah.
[00:54:39] Yeah.
[00:54:39] That's why him blowing himself up with such a big deal.
[00:54:41] he's getting on,
[00:54:42] uh,
[00:54:42] here in a few minutes.
[00:54:43] Yeah.
[00:54:43] Sosa's getting on.
[00:54:44] By the way,
[00:54:45] Justin,
[00:54:45] I don't know if you've ever seen this before.
[00:54:47] I actually found this on the internet,
[00:54:49] but the geniuses at,
[00:54:52] um,
[00:54:53] Shonen Jump Magazine,
[00:54:55] actually,
[00:54:56] they didn't canonize it,
[00:54:57] but they officially published it.
[00:54:58] It's a,
[00:55:00] so Jinchi manga with the premise being that the author has an accident in the real world.
[00:55:06] And he wakes up.
[00:55:07] I've heard of it.
[00:55:07] Yeah.
[00:55:08] He wakes up as Yamcha,
[00:55:09] but he retains all of his knowledge of the Dragon Ball universe.
[00:55:13] That's terrible.
[00:55:15] That's not fair.
[00:55:16] It's not really good.
[00:55:18] Yeah.
[00:55:19] Well,
[00:55:19] he would know what to do and what not to do.
[00:55:22] That's exactly.
[00:55:22] That's the premise.
[00:55:23] Yeah.
[00:55:24] There's a pretty solid twist at the end too,
[00:55:26] that I did not see coming the first time I read it.
[00:55:29] Yeah.
[00:55:29] He,
[00:55:29] um,
[00:55:29] the art,
[00:55:30] the artist,
[00:55:31] he,
[00:55:31] he,
[00:55:31] he replicates Akira Toriyama's art like immaculately.
[00:55:34] Like it looks just like it.
[00:55:36] It's,
[00:55:36] it's incredible.
[00:55:37] And it's hilarious because he lets you know how good he is because the story opens not in Toriyama's art style.
[00:55:44] It opens in his and it's completely different.
[00:55:46] I don't know if you can see that.
[00:55:48] Yeah.
[00:55:49] I've,
[00:55:49] I've seen it.
[00:55:50] I've seen the art.
[00:55:51] It's good.
[00:55:51] And as he transitions,
[00:55:55] he replicates Toriyama's art style to a T.
[00:55:59] Yeah.
[00:55:59] It looks just like his,
[00:56:01] it's crazy.
[00:56:02] Oh,
[00:56:03] wow.
[00:56:03] And he got,
[00:56:04] it goes like right up to my knowledge.
[00:56:05] Last I had heard of it,
[00:56:06] it goes up right to the Frieza saga.
[00:56:08] Like he winds up going dynamic.
[00:56:13] Yeah.
[00:56:13] So it's just trying to get in.
[00:56:15] He says,
[00:56:16] it's just saying preparing meeting.
[00:56:21] I sent him a invite.
[00:56:23] Yeah.
[00:56:23] I sent him another invite.
[00:56:24] Maybe I may have accidentally sent him the wrong one,
[00:56:27] but I sent him the same one I sent Justin.
[00:56:29] So I don't know what's going on,
[00:56:31] but yes,
[00:56:31] everybody,
[00:56:32] I freaked out because you can order this on Amazon.
[00:56:36] I didn't know that they had actually published it.
[00:56:38] Like as I,
[00:56:38] I didn't either.
[00:56:39] I was shocked because I was,
[00:56:41] I was shocked because I was telling Eric about it.
[00:56:42] I'm like,
[00:56:42] shit,
[00:56:42] I want to read that again.
[00:56:43] And then I just Google searched it and it popped out on Amazon.
[00:56:47] I was like,
[00:56:48] the fuck?
[00:56:49] Yeah.
[00:56:50] Last I had heard was just an internet thing.
[00:56:51] That's incredible.
[00:56:52] I didn't know they had published it.
[00:56:53] It's,
[00:56:53] it's officially to this media and Shonen Jump.
[00:56:57] That's so cool.
[00:56:58] It's got,
[00:56:59] it's got to do an anime.
[00:57:00] I would totally watch an anime.
[00:57:02] I'd watch that OVA.
[00:57:03] I would absolutely watch that OVA.
[00:57:05] It'd be so good.
[00:57:06] Somebody should make it.
[00:57:08] Oh,
[00:57:08] he's,
[00:57:09] he's on now.
[00:57:10] Yo,
[00:57:11] I made it.
[00:57:12] Oh,
[00:57:12] sir.
[00:57:13] So suppose.
[00:57:15] Meet our friend Justin.
[00:57:16] Warning.
[00:57:19] Howdy.
[00:57:19] Nice to meet you.
[00:57:20] Pleasure.
[00:57:21] What's up,
[00:57:22] man.
[00:57:22] How are you doing?
[00:57:23] Not too bad.
[00:57:24] Not too bad.
[00:57:26] I like your beard.
[00:57:28] Thanks.
[00:57:30] Justin.
[00:57:30] I'm warning you all guys ahead of time.
[00:57:32] I've got allergies.
[00:57:34] Bad.
[00:57:35] You can tell.
[00:57:36] You can hear my voice.
[00:57:38] It's all nasally.
[00:57:39] You're good.
[00:57:40] I'm on dragon blend.
[00:57:41] You're good.
[00:57:45] But yeah.
[00:57:45] So Justin,
[00:57:45] since you guys have presumably never seen or met each other.
[00:57:49] Sosa's our buddy from still in Texas,
[00:57:51] right,
[00:57:51] buddy?
[00:57:52] Yep.
[00:57:53] Yeah.
[00:57:54] Retired Muay Thai professional fighter,
[00:57:56] or have you come out of retirement?
[00:57:59] Ah,
[00:57:59] neat.
[00:58:00] Nah,
[00:58:01] retired,
[00:58:01] bro.
[00:58:02] Yeah,
[00:58:02] I didn't,
[00:58:02] I didn't think you did,
[00:58:03] but just making sure.
[00:58:04] Yeah,
[00:58:07] I,
[00:58:07] yeah,
[00:58:07] it's,
[00:58:08] it's funny.
[00:58:09] Sosa's recently in the past year taken to,
[00:58:12] I watch his fights and he was like,
[00:58:13] am I crazy or did they fuck me here?
[00:58:15] And I'm like,
[00:58:15] no,
[00:58:15] I think,
[00:58:16] I don't know exactly how it's scored,
[00:58:18] but based on what I'm seeing,
[00:58:19] I think they fucked you pretty good.
[00:58:22] You know why they say never,
[00:58:23] never let it go to the judges scorecards?
[00:58:25] Cause they'll find a way to fuck you.
[00:58:27] That's what he's trying not to do.
[00:58:30] I,
[00:58:30] I tried,
[00:58:31] I should have tried a little harder,
[00:58:33] but I was trying not to look like a complete bonehead.
[00:58:37] I was trying to make it look at least somewhat confident.
[00:58:40] And,
[00:58:40] but you know,
[00:58:42] eh.
[00:58:42] Yeah,
[00:58:43] but you're a brick wall,
[00:58:44] man.
[00:58:45] I know,
[00:58:45] but you know,
[00:58:47] I don't,
[00:58:48] it,
[00:58:48] it's a thing.
[00:58:49] Like in the fight game,
[00:58:51] if you win like Marab did against Sean O'Malley,
[00:58:56] they don't look at you the same.
[00:58:57] They don't give you the same respect.
[00:58:59] And I wanted that respect,
[00:59:00] you know?
[00:59:01] Yeah,
[00:59:02] that's fair.
[00:59:02] But it was funny.
[00:59:03] Cause your last fight,
[00:59:04] I was,
[00:59:04] it's the same thing that annoyed me about Taekwondo when I was competing is
[00:59:07] it's like somebody can barely tap you with a kick and they'll count it as
[00:59:13] a point.
[00:59:14] Whereas if you land,
[00:59:15] if you land a solid shot,
[00:59:16] but you don't hit them as many times,
[00:59:18] it's somehow worse.
[00:59:20] And I'm just like,
[00:59:21] nah,
[00:59:22] nah,
[00:59:23] at least have some weight to the scoring.
[00:59:25] Like a tap is a point,
[00:59:26] but if you land a solid shot that knocks a dude over,
[00:59:29] like that should be like three points or something.
[00:59:33] Yeah.
[00:59:33] Something.
[00:59:35] Something.
[00:59:36] Yeah.
[00:59:36] And I've always been the grindy type,
[00:59:39] which means I'll either TKO you in the third most often.
[00:59:43] You did see me get that one for a first round knockout,
[00:59:46] but most of the time I grind people out in dirty fights to decisions.
[00:59:50] I've never met a judge that ever showed me the latest bit of like,
[00:59:56] like least bit of favoritism at all.
[00:59:59] Like none of them liked me.
[01:00:00] If it wasn't absolutely clear,
[01:00:03] like undeniably you would get sued over it.
[01:00:05] They're going to go against me.
[01:00:07] Well,
[01:00:08] and the thing is,
[01:00:08] and I,
[01:00:09] I understand this to a point,
[01:00:10] but again,
[01:00:11] the judges,
[01:00:11] it seems to me are going just based on the volume of blows and like how
[01:00:15] many hits you get versus the ratio of hits to blows thrown.
[01:00:20] But the thing of it is though,
[01:00:22] like when you watch your fights,
[01:00:24] you're throwing less blows,
[01:00:25] but they count way more.
[01:00:28] Yep.
[01:00:28] And not only that,
[01:00:29] and I laugh at all the ones they hit me with.
[01:00:32] Yeah.
[01:00:32] I was going to say,
[01:00:33] and you,
[01:00:33] you take blows like a fucking animal.
[01:00:37] I appreciate it,
[01:00:38] man.
[01:00:38] I'm just saying that's some bullshit.
[01:00:40] That's all I'm saying.
[01:00:41] Respect.
[01:00:42] And then Justin,
[01:00:43] I appreciate y'all.
[01:00:44] I appreciate y'all.
[01:00:45] Justin,
[01:00:46] he has the host of the spur of the moment podcast,
[01:00:49] one of the other podcasts on our network.
[01:00:51] So he's talking some dry.
[01:00:52] Don't take us tonight.
[01:00:54] I don't take blows to the head for a living.
[01:00:56] I don't do that.
[01:00:58] I respect anyone,
[01:00:59] anyone who does that automatically has my respect.
[01:01:01] Cause that,
[01:01:02] that,
[01:01:03] that,
[01:01:03] that,
[01:01:03] that looks frightening to put it,
[01:01:05] to put it,
[01:01:06] I guess,
[01:01:07] bluntly,
[01:01:08] uh,
[01:01:08] mildly.
[01:01:10] Yeah,
[01:01:10] it,
[01:01:11] it,
[01:01:11] it can be,
[01:01:12] I'll tell you the worst moment.
[01:01:14] Now,
[01:01:14] after a while you kind of turn off,
[01:01:17] like I fought so many times and I was already not a nervous person.
[01:01:22] I don't even care.
[01:01:23] I'll just like,
[01:01:24] whatever.
[01:01:25] But I tell you the worst moment most of the time,
[01:01:28] even when I'm never nervous,
[01:01:31] when they lock the cage door and you're in the ring,
[01:01:35] it's a huge ching.
[01:01:37] And then you're like,
[01:01:39] Oh boy.
[01:01:40] I'm in it.
[01:01:41] I got you for three minutes.
[01:01:44] Yeah.
[01:01:45] I got you in here for three minutes.
[01:01:46] I was like,
[01:01:47] Oh,
[01:01:47] three minutes of play time.
[01:01:49] Yeah.
[01:01:50] I've heard a lot of fighters say that,
[01:01:51] that it's like the moment the cage door closes,
[01:01:53] that's when it becomes real.
[01:01:55] Yeah.
[01:01:55] I didn't know this was going to be a cage match.
[01:01:58] I didn't know it was going to be a cage match.
[01:02:00] I like the thing.
[01:02:02] Did you see what he did with that flying Dutchman guy?
[01:02:04] Although,
[01:02:05] although objectively,
[01:02:06] the cage match was better for him because he had the thing to stick on.
[01:02:09] So really he wanted a cage match.
[01:02:11] Yeah.
[01:02:12] That is better for that out there.
[01:02:14] That is intimidating as shit though.
[01:02:17] Yeah.
[01:02:17] No,
[01:02:18] it really is.
[01:02:19] Like that's when it hits you.
[01:02:21] Yeah.
[01:02:23] But yeah,
[01:02:24] I just wasn't going to deal with this corrupt game anymore,
[01:02:27] man.
[01:02:27] And we all know that I like not saying I'm nearly the best.
[01:02:32] I'm not even close to the best,
[01:02:33] but I am the toughest man in the world.
[01:02:34] But that being said,
[01:02:35] I need to take care of this right here.
[01:02:37] I need that CTE gone.
[01:02:39] I don't want to develop that stuff.
[01:02:40] So I retire.
[01:02:41] I made my point.
[01:02:43] I made my point enough.
[01:02:45] I'll retire at 33.
[01:02:46] Hopefully I'm not too fucked up later on.
[01:02:53] And on that note,
[01:02:56] I'm excited.
[01:02:57] I would have said something.
[01:02:58] Well,
[01:02:59] I'm going to take a moment to,
[01:03:00] I promised everybody the reveal from our friends at Stevie wick school being
[01:03:04] handled company.
[01:03:05] And here it is.
[01:03:08] Ooh,
[01:03:09] that's cool.
[01:03:10] The special dragon.
[01:03:12] Oh,
[01:03:12] there it is.
[01:03:13] Yes.
[01:03:13] The special dragon ball series will be available next week in honor of the
[01:03:18] release of dragon ball.
[01:03:19] Dima.
[01:03:20] Ooh,
[01:03:21] that's cool.
[01:03:22] That's cool.
[01:03:23] Normally 24 99 going to be on sale for 19 99,
[01:03:27] but use your special promo code AIP and get 10% off your entire order.
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[01:03:42] I have a feeling we're going to talk about,
[01:03:44] um,
[01:03:45] AEW getting their new TV deal with Warner brothers discovery tomorrow,
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[01:03:50] And we touched on the fact that,
[01:03:51] uh,
[01:03:51] Monday night raw is going to be streaming on Netflix starting in 2025.
[01:03:54] We'll probably touch on that too.
[01:03:56] Cause Netflix is making some big time power moves,
[01:03:58] but that's tomorrow night.
[01:03:59] It's dragon ball tonight.
[01:04:03] Heck yeah.
[01:04:05] See,
[01:04:05] now I know this is to be expected,
[01:04:07] but all the reviews are saying how wonderful it is.
[01:04:10] And everyone's propping the up,
[01:04:12] the animation dragon ball super was basically taken on a dare's worth of
[01:04:16] time.
[01:04:16] So some of their animation that they had to turn out every week was
[01:04:19] absolute crap.
[01:04:21] It made the most legendary beams ever.
[01:04:24] Yeah.
[01:04:25] I think they made up this one.
[01:04:27] They've had a year and a half to prep.
[01:04:29] And so I've heard it really good.
[01:04:31] If the trailer's any,
[01:04:32] yeah.
[01:04:33] If the trailer's any indication,
[01:04:34] this is going to be gorgeous.
[01:04:36] It's going to be fucking gorgeous.
[01:04:37] You guys are getting it in theaters.
[01:04:40] And yes,
[01:04:41] we are.
[01:04:41] Yeah.
[01:04:43] I want to watch it theater.
[01:04:44] So bad.
[01:04:45] I looked up tickets aren't available yet,
[01:04:47] but it's through fathom events.
[01:04:48] So I'm keeping my eyes out.
[01:04:50] Cause I was like,
[01:04:51] shit,
[01:04:51] I might do that.
[01:04:52] Whatever day you can get.
[01:04:53] I don't care.
[01:04:54] I'm there.
[01:04:55] They're supposed to email me when tickets are available.
[01:04:58] So I'm so,
[01:04:59] I want to go so bad.
[01:05:00] We didn't,
[01:05:01] we made the mistake of not going to drag ball superhero in theaters.
[01:05:05] And I regretted it when I watched it.
[01:05:06] Cause I was like,
[01:05:07] Oh,
[01:05:07] I like that movie so much.
[01:05:08] Oh,
[01:05:09] it was.
[01:05:10] Yeah.
[01:05:10] That was worth seeing in the theater.
[01:05:12] It absolutely was.
[01:05:12] I was,
[01:05:13] I was a genuine surprise.
[01:05:14] How much I,
[01:05:15] turns out,
[01:05:16] cause there was a point.
[01:05:17] I,
[01:05:17] I don't like dragon ball super.
[01:05:20] Just straight up.
[01:05:21] And so there was a point when I,
[01:05:22] Oh,
[01:05:23] Oh no.
[01:05:24] Don't like dragon.
[01:05:25] Like,
[01:05:27] like,
[01:05:28] like,
[01:05:28] like,
[01:05:28] like,
[01:05:28] he is a,
[01:05:29] he is a GT apologist.
[01:05:31] Oh no.
[01:05:34] Here's what I'll say.
[01:05:35] Here's what I'll say.
[01:05:36] when I tried to,
[01:05:37] I enjoy,
[01:05:40] I think super saiyan four is objectively the second best super saiyan.
[01:05:44] The first being super,
[01:05:45] the first super saiyan,
[01:05:46] obviously.
[01:05:47] Yeah.
[01:05:48] I'll be honest.
[01:05:49] I can.
[01:05:49] Well,
[01:05:49] I don't know.
[01:05:50] I'm,
[01:05:50] I'm partial to blue,
[01:05:51] but.
[01:05:52] Oh,
[01:05:53] really?
[01:05:53] But blue is the worst one.
[01:05:55] Oh no,
[01:05:56] no,
[01:05:56] my friend.
[01:05:56] No,
[01:05:57] no,
[01:05:57] super saiyan,
[01:05:58] but blue.
[01:05:58] It's so boring.
[01:06:00] It's aesthetically the most boring looking one.
[01:06:02] And I will quote,
[01:06:03] I will quote Goku from the boo bits from our friends at DBZ bridge.
[01:06:08] No,
[01:06:08] it's not the same thing.
[01:06:09] See,
[01:06:09] I have more sparkles.
[01:06:12] Yeah.
[01:06:14] The only time I ever liked it is in the Broly movie.
[01:06:17] I was the only time I liked it.
[01:06:19] Cause I liked how it looked when he transformed from one,
[01:06:21] but beyond that can't,
[01:06:22] but to be fair,
[01:06:23] to be fair to direct poor dragon ball super,
[01:06:25] it's a mid cool.
[01:06:27] So it has no stakes.
[01:06:29] And,
[01:06:30] um,
[01:06:31] well,
[01:06:31] I watched it after hundreds of episodes of the original show,
[01:06:35] which I much like much better.
[01:06:36] I want to see how they tie it in like that.
[01:06:38] That's why we're all dying to see super two,
[01:06:40] but I can't.
[01:06:41] Oh my God.
[01:06:42] Here's the thing.
[01:06:42] They can like,
[01:06:43] there's so much to retcon very easily.
[01:06:46] No,
[01:06:46] it's not a retcon.
[01:06:47] It is a very loosely based series.
[01:06:49] It can be retconned so easily.
[01:06:52] It's a different timeline,
[01:06:53] dude.
[01:06:54] No,
[01:06:54] it's a different timeline.
[01:06:55] Not according to toy.
[01:06:58] Okay.
[01:07:01] Okay.
[01:07:02] I'm confused.
[01:07:03] No,
[01:07:03] no.
[01:07:04] Here's the thing.
[01:07:04] Justin,
[01:07:05] Justin,
[01:07:05] you'll,
[01:07:06] you'll agree with me on this,
[01:07:07] right?
[01:07:07] I'm going to use star.
[01:07:07] Maybe I'm confused.
[01:07:08] So the two new series,
[01:07:11] discovery and strange new worlds were allegedly in the main canon timeline.
[01:07:15] However,
[01:07:16] because they fucked with the continuity so much,
[01:07:18] they've had not now had to come out and say,
[01:07:20] Oh,
[01:07:20] well,
[01:07:21] it's actually an alternate timeline.
[01:07:23] So they retconned their retcons because they realized that they fucked it up so bad.
[01:07:28] And that's basically what super has done to GT.
[01:07:31] So GT is just another timeline.
[01:07:32] Well,
[01:07:33] it's not,
[01:07:33] but it's not even just GT.
[01:07:35] It's that super has to connect to the end of dragon ball Z because super takes place after,
[01:07:40] after they defeated boo,
[01:07:42] but before,
[01:07:42] before the,
[01:07:43] the,
[01:07:43] you know,
[01:07:44] the 10 years later where they run into each other and they're like,
[01:07:46] it's been,
[01:07:47] it's been 10 years since we keep meeting each other.
[01:07:49] Goku,
[01:07:49] even though we saw each other,
[01:07:50] but you know,
[01:07:51] that bit that the boo bits make fun of,
[01:07:53] like that still has to happen.
[01:07:55] And they've insisted that it's going to happen.
[01:07:59] Like that,
[01:07:59] that,
[01:08:00] that dragon ball super will eventually line up to the end of dragon ball Z.
[01:08:04] Unless,
[01:08:05] unless you look at it this way.
[01:08:07] So the end of dragon ball Z quantum physics,
[01:08:10] the end,
[01:08:11] the end of dragon ball Z springboards into GT.
[01:08:15] All you have to do is that in the super timeline,
[01:08:18] that's just not a thing that happens.
[01:08:21] Well,
[01:08:21] that's,
[01:08:22] that's what,
[01:08:22] that's what me and Jordan are like.
[01:08:23] Yeah.
[01:08:24] Yeah.
[01:08:24] It ends at boo.
[01:08:25] And then it just goes right into super.
[01:08:27] It's easy.
[01:08:29] We,
[01:08:29] we,
[01:08:30] we,
[01:08:30] our theory has always been because in dragon balls,
[01:08:33] it's super Broly.
[01:08:34] They basically imply that,
[01:08:37] um,
[01:08:38] drag or Broly,
[01:08:39] power comes from the OZaru form.
[01:08:42] That's where his,
[01:08:42] all that,
[01:08:43] all that superpower comes from.
[01:08:44] So we always figured that was their way into back dooring into super saying
[01:08:48] four,
[01:08:49] because that franchise really,
[01:08:51] the,
[01:08:52] yeah,
[01:08:52] the,
[01:08:52] the big monkey,
[01:08:53] big monkey,
[01:08:54] the,
[01:08:54] the big monkey power.
[01:08:55] It comes from the big monkey.
[01:08:56] What they call it is actually a car,
[01:08:58] uh,
[01:08:59] because,
[01:08:59] uh,
[01:08:59] you can see it as pupils.
[01:09:01] Uh,
[01:09:02] it's like I C A R I or something like that.
[01:09:06] Interesting.
[01:09:06] Cause yeah,
[01:09:07] that's the,
[01:09:08] the one thing that a character,
[01:09:09] I'm a light from,
[01:09:10] from,
[01:09:11] well,
[01:09:11] the two things were the shadow dragons and super Sam four,
[01:09:14] which is why super Sam four is kind of like the most enduring part of that show.
[01:09:18] But again,
[01:09:19] I think you're correct.
[01:09:20] Those are two of the most amazing parts of teaching.
[01:09:23] I'll be honest with y'all guys.
[01:09:25] The dragon ball arc.
[01:09:26] I think that's why they're partially reusing it for time.
[01:09:29] Because it was that good of an idea way to be able to flush out the dragon balls and quit the story and make sure they're never used again.
[01:09:36] I think that's freaking awesome.
[01:09:38] And super Sam four is just as awesome.
[01:09:41] I mean,
[01:09:42] like those two things and pretty much only those two things,
[01:09:45] but man,
[01:09:46] they were some awesome two things.
[01:09:48] Well,
[01:09:49] it's,
[01:09:49] it's,
[01:09:50] it's not a,
[01:09:51] it's not a perfect show.
[01:09:53] Well,
[01:09:53] no,
[01:09:53] my theory,
[01:09:54] my theory about super Sam four is it's not even a super Sam form.
[01:09:57] Technically.
[01:09:58] Neither is all trendstained.
[01:10:00] No,
[01:10:02] it's not technically a transformation.
[01:10:03] No.
[01:10:04] No,
[01:10:05] but the thing,
[01:10:06] the thing about super Sam four though,
[01:10:07] is that first of all,
[01:10:08] it requires a tail.
[01:10:10] Um,
[01:10:10] and technically speaking,
[01:10:12] it's basically just mastered super Sam Osaru.
[01:10:15] So I guess in a way it's super Sam,
[01:10:17] but not really.
[01:10:19] Okay.
[01:10:20] That's what I'm saying.
[01:10:21] Who cares?
[01:10:22] I'm trying to find time for content.
[01:10:24] I enjoyed it because it was,
[01:10:26] because the super Sam forms,
[01:10:27] but progressively become more and more ape like as they go on.
[01:10:31] So the,
[01:10:32] the super Sam three has the protrude like forehead.
[01:10:35] And,
[01:10:35] and it's,
[01:10:36] he's,
[01:10:36] he's like more like hunched over.
[01:10:38] And like when they show it shows him tapping in to the,
[01:10:41] the,
[01:10:42] the,
[01:10:42] the eight power.
[01:10:43] Um,
[01:10:44] it shows him tapping into it.
[01:10:45] And so I just think super Sam four is the logical end point of that,
[01:10:49] of that transformation up until super Sam five.
[01:10:52] Do y'all remember super Sam five?
[01:10:53] Dude,
[01:10:54] I remember super Sam six,
[01:10:55] man.
[01:10:56] Seven,
[01:10:57] nine,
[01:10:57] 12,
[01:10:58] 24.
[01:11:00] And when you got more and more hair,
[01:11:01] fan art that used to exist.
[01:11:04] Well,
[01:11:04] remember whenever,
[01:11:04] I remember veggie,
[01:11:06] veggie,
[01:11:06] veggie chunks,
[01:11:08] veggie chunks.
[01:11:09] Yeah.
[01:11:10] What day they made?
[01:11:11] Dragon ball AF.
[01:11:13] Yeah.
[01:11:14] Dragon ball AF.
[01:11:15] Oh yeah.
[01:11:15] Then heroes just made veggie chunks into a thing.
[01:11:18] It was,
[01:11:18] it was hilarious.
[01:11:20] I don't know why so many people hate on heroes.
[01:11:23] They had a level of warm call.
[01:11:25] They had a level of warm call veggie tucks.
[01:11:31] I'm just saying,
[01:11:31] it's just fun.
[01:11:32] It never claimed to be canon ever.
[01:11:35] I,
[01:11:35] it's well,
[01:11:35] I mean,
[01:11:36] it's not,
[01:11:36] it's a,
[01:11:37] it's a promotional anime for a card game,
[01:11:39] but that's why I don't get why people get mad at it.
[01:11:41] Well,
[01:11:41] that's what I'm saying.
[01:11:42] It's just fun.
[01:11:44] When I watch it,
[01:11:45] I think I always make,
[01:11:46] I always say I got to like super Saiyan four max overdrive.
[01:11:50] Or whatever it was called.
[01:11:52] And that was the point where I went,
[01:11:54] I get it.
[01:11:55] I get why people make fun of this franchise.
[01:11:58] I people,
[01:11:58] I get why people say it's,
[01:11:59] it's only screaming and transformations.
[01:12:02] I understand.
[01:12:03] And then I never watch transformations at heart,
[01:12:05] man.
[01:12:07] And yeah,
[01:12:07] but I think,
[01:12:08] I think heroes is sort of devoid of that.
[01:12:10] Heroes is kind of the equivalent of just mashing action figures together.
[01:12:13] Heroes is just,
[01:12:15] it's just fan service.
[01:12:16] That's all it is.
[01:12:18] But I will say.
[01:12:19] But they're honest about it.
[01:12:20] Exactly.
[01:12:21] That's what I'm saying.
[01:12:21] I don't understand why people are getting mad about it because it's like,
[01:12:24] they never said they were trying to pass this off as official.
[01:12:28] I,
[01:12:29] my thing with heroes,
[01:12:30] nobody got mad at bar because it was honest with what it was.
[01:12:32] And it dragon ball super is honest for what it is.
[01:12:35] Like,
[01:12:36] cool.
[01:12:38] Yeah.
[01:12:39] My thing with,
[01:12:39] my thing with super is it's,
[01:12:41] it's,
[01:12:42] it,
[01:12:42] the reason why I dislike it is it's good ideas that are explored in a not
[01:12:47] very interesting way.
[01:12:48] Like,
[01:12:49] like,
[01:12:49] and I'll,
[01:12:50] I'll give you that super saying God is contrived to shit.
[01:12:53] I don't hate super saying God.
[01:12:56] I don't mind super saying God for me.
[01:12:57] It's stuff like,
[01:12:58] okay,
[01:12:59] we're doing an evil Goku and we're building up this mystery.
[01:13:02] And,
[01:13:03] and we're,
[01:13:03] we're,
[01:13:04] we're creating this intrigue and it's just a guy.
[01:13:07] It's not,
[01:13:08] you didn't like the black song.
[01:13:09] It's just a guy.
[01:13:10] It's just a guy.
[01:13:11] Yeah.
[01:13:12] He's not black.
[01:13:13] That was funny.
[01:13:14] That's awesome.
[01:13:15] This man is not black.
[01:13:17] This man is not black.
[01:13:19] So I'm sorry.
[01:13:19] I had the balls.
[01:13:20] I was impressed.
[01:13:21] Well,
[01:13:21] I think I've told this story before,
[01:13:23] but when I watched dragon ball super for the first time,
[01:13:26] I was watching the Japanese simulcast because I didn't want to wait.
[01:13:28] And the thing is,
[01:13:30] yep.
[01:13:30] That's the line in Japanese.
[01:13:32] And I remember,
[01:13:33] but I remember chuckling to myself.
[01:13:35] I was like,
[01:13:36] Oh,
[01:13:36] I wonder how they're going to take care of that in the English show.
[01:13:38] Cause there's no way.
[01:13:40] And then I see it in the English.
[01:13:42] I'm like,
[01:13:42] Oh my God.
[01:13:44] The English dub.
[01:13:45] I think honestly,
[01:13:46] I think the English dub is better than the original Japanese because I think it irons out a lot of the shit in that series.
[01:13:53] That didn't make sense.
[01:13:53] No,
[01:13:54] they couldn't capture the emotion quite as well.
[01:13:56] And even new.
[01:13:57] Yeah.
[01:13:58] I mean,
[01:13:59] I don't know.
[01:13:59] I mean,
[01:14:01] but like so much of that series is,
[01:14:04] it is incoherent.
[01:14:05] So it is,
[01:14:06] but here's the thing to Eric's point about the,
[01:14:08] uh,
[01:14:08] about the English dub.
[01:14:10] So it's very much,
[01:14:12] well,
[01:14:12] in the Japanese dub,
[01:14:13] Goku doesn't really change all that much in the English dub.
[01:14:16] He does big time.
[01:14:17] And they do a complete return to form for him and super.
[01:14:21] And because Goku was Superman in the Funimation English dub and not Goku.
[01:14:27] Yeah.
[01:14:28] When,
[01:14:28] when he goes back to being a country bumpkin,
[01:14:30] it just doesn't,
[01:14:32] it doesn't translate.
[01:14:34] My thing,
[01:14:35] what I realized about super was that it's,
[01:14:38] it's a show written by people who watched Dragon Ball Z as a kid.
[01:14:45] So it's,
[01:14:46] it's,
[01:14:46] it's,
[01:14:46] they're not,
[01:14:47] they're not,
[01:14:47] they're not really good.
[01:14:49] It was the thing I realized about Frieza,
[01:14:51] where Frieza has kind of become a caricature of himself.
[01:14:56] Where he's,
[01:14:57] that the Dragon Ball super kind of forgets that he's a,
[01:15:00] he's a genius tactician.
[01:15:02] Like,
[01:15:02] it's the thing I realized when I watched Dragon Ball Z is that he,
[01:15:05] he's not just a blind sociopath who will just kill anyone on a dime.
[01:15:08] Like,
[01:15:08] he keeps Vegeta around for a reason.
[01:15:11] Like,
[01:15:11] he values his,
[01:15:12] his contribution to his organization.
[01:15:15] He values people who are,
[01:15:18] are value,
[01:15:18] who,
[01:15:19] who bring value to the team.
[01:15:21] Like,
[01:15:21] like genuinely,
[01:15:22] like he values Dordori,
[01:15:24] he values Zarbond.
[01:15:25] You're describing Frieza as Michael Scott.
[01:15:28] Kind of,
[01:15:28] kind of.
[01:15:29] Like,
[01:15:29] like,
[01:15:30] like just,
[01:15:30] just how good he is at utilizing his,
[01:15:32] like his people.
[01:15:33] He is lost in Dragon Ball super,
[01:15:36] where he's just kind of a cartoonish bad guy.
[01:15:38] He's just in there.
[01:15:39] He's like,
[01:15:39] well,
[01:15:39] here's the thing.
[01:15:40] Here's the thing.
[01:15:41] Zarbond's quite annoying,
[01:15:42] but he's the best salesperson we have.
[01:15:45] So.
[01:15:45] Well,
[01:15:46] I'd rather be feared or love.
[01:15:47] I'd rather be loved to be feared.
[01:15:49] You just kind of deal with it.
[01:15:51] You know?
[01:15:53] Why are you the way that you are?
[01:15:58] Oh,
[01:15:59] Dordoria!
[01:16:00] No!
[01:16:02] I just want,
[01:16:03] I just want to say that's what she said.
[01:16:08] My girl is going to love this part,
[01:16:09] because she is a diehard Office fan.
[01:16:13] Live and breathe by it.
[01:16:15] I mean,
[01:16:16] I love that.
[01:16:16] Have you ever seen the clip of,
[01:16:18] not too long ago?
[01:16:19] Bro,
[01:16:20] for real?
[01:16:21] Yeah.
[01:16:22] It took me a while to get into it.
[01:16:24] Like the first season,
[01:16:24] I hated Michael.
[01:16:26] Michael Scott.
[01:16:27] Or,
[01:16:27] yeah,
[01:16:28] Steve,
[01:16:28] is that his name?
[01:16:29] Michael Scott in the show?
[01:16:30] I can't,
[01:16:31] he's so cringy.
[01:16:32] And I know it's supposed to be that way.
[01:16:34] But he got better in the second season.
[01:16:36] Yeah,
[01:16:37] because they realized,
[01:16:38] they realized that Americans,
[01:16:40] went to shit.
[01:16:41] Yeah.
[01:16:41] Well,
[01:16:42] they realized Americans,
[01:16:43] generally speaking,
[01:16:44] don't appreciate British humor.
[01:16:45] So.
[01:16:46] Well,
[01:16:46] that's what I heard that first season.
[01:16:47] It's just trying to be the British version.
[01:16:49] It was.
[01:16:49] It's almost beat for beat.
[01:16:53] Yeah,
[01:16:53] I've heard that.
[01:16:54] And then it's like,
[01:16:54] once it hits the site,
[01:16:55] to be fair,
[01:16:56] Jordan's a big office fan.
[01:16:57] I'm not a super huge office guy,
[01:16:58] but he,
[01:17:00] he,
[01:17:00] he said that,
[01:17:01] yeah,
[01:17:01] the second season is where it really gets good.
[01:17:03] That's why we take umbrage with canceling a show after one season.
[01:17:05] We're like,
[01:17:06] you did not have the opportunity to get good.
[01:17:09] That's,
[01:17:10] that's fair.
[01:17:10] Can you imagine if they canceled shows after one season back in the day?
[01:17:15] We wouldn't have any of the properties that we love.
[01:17:17] Just saying.
[01:17:19] I mean,
[01:17:19] they did cancel Dragon Ball Z technically,
[01:17:21] but they just brought it back because people were like,
[01:17:23] no,
[01:17:23] this is going to happen.
[01:17:25] This is going to be a thing.
[01:17:26] I,
[01:17:27] I felt like this is off topic,
[01:17:27] but did you guys ever see a show on Netflix called,
[01:17:30] uh,
[01:17:30] I am not okay with this.
[01:17:33] I've heard of it.
[01:17:33] I recognize the name.
[01:17:35] I am not okay with this.
[01:17:37] It had one season and it was a fantastic show.
[01:17:40] I don't know if you guys haven't seen it,
[01:17:42] then,
[01:17:42] uh,
[01:17:42] look it up afterwards and look into it,
[01:17:45] but.
[01:17:46] Hey,
[01:17:47] I recognize the name.
[01:17:48] I don't know why I recognize them.
[01:17:49] I recognize the name.
[01:17:51] The girl from it was on there who played,
[01:17:54] uh,
[01:17:54] Beverly.
[01:17:56] Uh,
[01:17:56] Oh yes.
[01:17:57] I've definitely heard of this.
[01:17:58] Yes.
[01:17:58] Yes.
[01:17:58] And she had,
[01:17:59] she had,
[01:18:00] uh,
[01:18:00] uh,
[01:18:00] she had powers similar to,
[01:18:02] uh,
[01:18:02] Carrie.
[01:18:06] Yes.
[01:18:07] I do recognize this.
[01:18:08] Okay.
[01:18:09] You carry.
[01:18:10] I do know.
[01:18:10] I know Carrie.
[01:18:13] Yeah.
[01:18:14] She's the,
[01:18:14] the girl that got all the blood on her right now.
[01:18:16] I'm kidding.
[01:18:17] That's my,
[01:18:17] that's my,
[01:18:18] I see.
[01:18:18] It's funny.
[01:18:19] You guys did it on really a topic.
[01:18:20] There's another short you guys put out where you're talking about Jason movies.
[01:18:24] My favorite Jason movie is Jason seven because it's Jason versus Carrie.
[01:18:29] And you know what?
[01:18:30] I actually misspoke.
[01:18:31] Oh yeah.
[01:18:32] I actually,
[01:18:32] I miss,
[01:18:33] I miss spoken that short.
[01:18:34] I should have said my favorite is three,
[01:18:37] not two.
[01:18:38] I misspoke.
[01:18:39] So I,
[01:18:39] I wasn't.
[01:18:40] Three is really good.
[01:18:41] That's what I had is three in my mind,
[01:18:43] but which is the one he goes to Manhattan.
[01:18:46] That's the seventh one.
[01:18:48] I think so.
[01:18:49] That's,
[01:18:49] that's the best one when he kicks the boom box.
[01:18:52] That one,
[01:18:52] that one really is just more like Jason on a boat.
[01:18:54] Cause they really don't get to Manhattan until like the last 20 minutes of it.
[01:18:57] The worst one's the ninth one.
[01:18:58] That's the worst one.
[01:18:59] Oh,
[01:18:59] so it's like Jurassic Park two.
[01:19:01] Goes the hill.
[01:19:02] Yeah.
[01:19:02] It goes.
[01:19:03] No.
[01:19:03] Yeah.
[01:19:03] The one where he's not.
[01:19:04] Yeah.
[01:19:04] The one where you never see him wear the hockey mask and he just possesses people.
[01:19:07] Oh,
[01:19:08] it's,
[01:19:08] I mean,
[01:19:08] they,
[01:19:09] they bring it back.
[01:19:09] Oh,
[01:19:10] I think Sosa dropped out on accident.
[01:19:11] He'll come back.
[01:19:12] No.
[01:19:12] He,
[01:19:13] yeah.
[01:19:15] But they,
[01:19:16] they really bring it back around with Jason in space.
[01:19:20] Jason in space is genuinely good.
[01:19:21] It has.
[01:19:22] Okay.
[01:19:22] My favorite.
[01:19:23] That was terrible.
[01:19:24] Jason in space is okay.
[01:19:25] My two favorite Jason kills are in Jason seven,
[01:19:29] where it's the evil stepdad and he's running away and Jason lets him get away,
[01:19:33] but let them get away.
[01:19:35] And then he disappears for a while and he comes back and he's got a weed whacker.
[01:19:38] He just kills him with a weed whacker.
[01:19:39] Very funny.
[01:19:40] And then,
[01:19:41] and then the other one is in Jason X where he,
[01:19:44] he's in the simulator and there's these two naked girls like,
[01:19:47] like,
[01:19:48] like playing with each other,
[01:19:49] whatever.
[01:19:49] And it cuts away to another scene and then just cuts back and he's beating
[01:19:53] them to death with their,
[01:19:54] they're in the,
[01:19:54] the sleeping bag and he's beating them to death.
[01:19:57] Oh yeah.
[01:19:58] That would be so fucking funny.
[01:20:01] Uh,
[01:20:01] probably unintentionally.
[01:20:02] No,
[01:20:02] that's the point where they decided it should be funny.
[01:20:06] Also,
[01:20:06] also I need to fact check you.
[01:20:08] Jason is technically in the first,
[01:20:09] uh,
[01:20:10] Friday the 13th movie.
[01:20:11] Right.
[01:20:11] But he's not the,
[01:20:12] he's not the,
[01:20:13] no,
[01:20:13] no,
[01:20:14] no.
[01:20:14] But I think he said he,
[01:20:14] I think he said he wasn't in it.
[01:20:16] Maybe.
[01:20:17] I said,
[01:20:17] I said it wasn't Jason.
[01:20:18] I was referring to the killer.
[01:20:20] Oh,
[01:20:20] the hockey math version.
[01:20:22] Yeah.
[01:20:22] No,
[01:20:23] the hockey math.
[01:20:23] Who was the victims?
[01:20:26] Uh,
[01:20:26] that movie is the camp kids,
[01:20:28] the camp counselors.
[01:20:28] That movie is in my opinion,
[01:20:29] the best Friday of the 13th movie,
[01:20:31] because it's honestly a good movie.
[01:20:33] It's it's,
[01:20:34] if you,
[01:20:34] if you're unfamiliar with the twist,
[01:20:35] the twist is really good.
[01:20:37] Like it doesn't telegraph it at all.
[01:20:39] You're unsure as to who's going to get it and what,
[01:20:41] in what order.
[01:20:42] Um,
[01:20:43] and Kevin Bacon's in it.
[01:20:45] I was going to say Jason's first kill was in that movie.
[01:20:48] Cause he was,
[01:20:49] he jumped up and pulled the,
[01:20:51] pulled the bitch in the water.
[01:20:53] Strangles are in the water.
[01:20:54] Yeah.
[01:20:54] You go.
[01:20:55] Nah.
[01:20:57] Yeah.
[01:20:57] I watched,
[01:20:58] I watched all those movies in a row for Halloween one year.
[01:21:00] It was,
[01:21:01] they're very fun movies.
[01:21:03] Um,
[01:21:04] so does,
[01:21:05] does anybody have any info on what supposedly happens in Dima?
[01:21:08] I know that there's a,
[01:21:09] what is it?
[01:21:10] The demon world is supposed to be.
[01:21:11] They go to the demon realm.
[01:21:12] Yeah.
[01:21:12] They go to the demon realm.
[01:21:13] Yeah.
[01:21:14] But does anybody know like what I obviously,
[01:21:16] somebody makes a wish.
[01:21:17] Is it going to be the same as a dragon?
[01:21:19] The demon dragon balls.
[01:21:23] No,
[01:21:25] I do have the lowdown on these things.
[01:21:27] Uh,
[01:21:29] I've also been getting some good,
[01:21:30] uh,
[01:21:31] Bucky Netflix,
[01:21:32] uh,
[01:21:32] lowdowns too,
[01:21:32] but we'll cover that later.
[01:21:34] Um,
[01:21:35] this one,
[01:21:36] there is a war that has gone on for power in the demon realm,
[01:21:41] uh,
[01:21:42] because they killed the Bora.
[01:21:45] And so there has been,
[01:21:47] yeah,
[01:21:48] so there is a new power struggle and new gods emerge from this power struggle.
[01:21:53] That's been being waged war,
[01:21:55] you know,
[01:21:55] down below for years and years and years.
[01:21:57] And finally,
[01:21:59] someone comes up and they're not alone,
[01:22:04] but there's,
[01:22:06] they're seeking to make our world like their world and conquer it.
[01:22:09] So,
[01:22:11] yeah.
[01:22:12] So,
[01:22:13] that was,
[01:22:14] yeah,
[01:22:15] time traveling and all that stuff.
[01:22:17] So basically,
[01:22:18] that was,
[01:22:18] um,
[01:22:19] so basically we get Goku goes to hell again,
[01:22:21] dude,
[01:22:21] we get a kid Vegeta.
[01:22:23] I don't care.
[01:22:24] I know.
[01:22:25] I'm fine with Vegeta.
[01:22:27] I was down.
[01:22:28] I wasn't into it until I,
[01:22:30] yeah,
[01:22:30] that's,
[01:22:31] I wasn't into it until I saw all of the cats were getting turned into kids.
[01:22:34] And I was like,
[01:22:35] you know what?
[01:22:36] All right.
[01:22:36] Kid Vegeta.
[01:22:37] I'm kind of,
[01:22:38] I'm kind of into that.
[01:22:39] I'm kind of into that.
[01:22:41] I was like babality on,
[01:22:42] uh,
[01:22:43] Mortal Kombat.
[01:22:44] It's just widespread babality.
[01:22:47] But my only,
[01:22:48] my only question is,
[01:22:49] is there.
[01:22:50] I just want to be Kid Sabbath.
[01:22:52] Just put a voice effect filter on him.
[01:22:54] I mean,
[01:22:54] Kid Sabbath.
[01:22:54] I think that might be what they're going to do,
[01:22:56] but isn't that,
[01:22:57] the balls are inert.
[01:23:01] But is there,
[01:23:02] is there a power downgrade though?
[01:23:04] Since they're getting turned back into kids.
[01:23:06] That's the question.
[01:23:07] Super Saiyan,
[01:23:07] Super Saiyan is still in it.
[01:23:09] It's in the trailer.
[01:23:09] Right,
[01:23:09] right.
[01:23:09] Super Saiyan is still there,
[01:23:11] but surely they're,
[01:23:12] because Goku's got the power pole again.
[01:23:15] Well,
[01:23:15] they can't use their bodies as well.
[01:23:17] They are not as familiar with the key control and impulses and all that stuff.
[01:23:22] They can attune themselves,
[01:23:24] but it's harder.
[01:23:25] So this is,
[01:23:26] this also takes place.
[01:23:27] Similar to GT.
[01:23:29] Yeah.
[01:23:30] It takes place.
[01:23:30] A kid's natural durability,
[01:23:32] their,
[01:23:33] their durability,
[01:23:33] is not just built up because their bodies are not quite as strong or as powerful.
[01:23:38] Their key is,
[01:23:39] but the bodies are not.
[01:23:40] So they have to constantly adjust for that.
[01:23:42] There's all sorts of difficulties that GT laid out,
[01:23:45] you know,
[01:23:46] just,
[01:23:46] they didn't list it out like we're used to.
[01:23:49] Also,
[01:23:50] Akira Toriyama,
[01:23:51] go ahead.
[01:23:52] I'm sorry.
[01:23:52] I was going to say,
[01:23:53] Akira Toriyama wanted to strip it back.
[01:23:55] Yeah.
[01:23:56] He wanted to do that for years.
[01:23:58] He's wanted to put the drive,
[01:23:59] the Z bottle back in the bottle as forever.
[01:24:02] So,
[01:24:03] yeah.
[01:24:04] But,
[01:24:04] and that was,
[01:24:05] that was the logic of making Super Saiyan 4 in adult form though,
[01:24:08] because it was just too much energy.
[01:24:11] Well,
[01:24:12] the,
[01:24:12] the thing with GT was,
[01:24:14] um,
[01:24:14] they wrote a lot of that on the fly.
[01:24:17] Sure.
[01:24:17] So like they did the first,
[01:24:18] like a few episodes of it.
[01:24:20] People fucking hated it.
[01:24:21] Um,
[01:24:22] yeah,
[01:24:22] pretty much.
[01:24:23] No,
[01:24:23] you don't say.
[01:24:24] The reason why they leaked to baby right away is because people fucking hated those first 13 episodes.
[01:24:29] And so they went,
[01:24:30] oh shit,
[01:24:30] this needs to be Dragon Ball Z.
[01:24:32] It needs to be Dragon Ball Z yesterday.
[01:24:34] We need to see this shit out.
[01:24:35] Which is why Super Saiyan 4 exists.
[01:24:36] And baby,
[01:24:36] I still love the baby saga.
[01:24:38] It's one of my favorite Dragon Ball artists.
[01:24:39] It was good.
[01:24:40] Period.
[01:24:40] I,
[01:24:41] I love GT because thematically GT is all about consequences.
[01:24:46] So like every,
[01:24:47] every arc in that show is a result of the previous arc before it.
[01:24:52] So the shadow dragons are a result of,
[01:24:54] have hell breaking apart because of Super 17.
[01:24:56] Super 17 exists because you got killed by baby,
[01:25:00] so on and so forth.
[01:25:01] Well,
[01:25:01] but even,
[01:25:02] Oh damn.
[01:25:03] Even,
[01:25:03] well,
[01:25:03] even the,
[01:25:04] well,
[01:25:05] even the inciting incident in the series,
[01:25:07] um,
[01:25:08] the Pilaf game,
[01:25:09] Pilaf using the black star Dragon Balls to turn Goku into a kid.
[01:25:12] He's,
[01:25:13] it's still revenge.
[01:25:14] So yeah,
[01:25:14] it's all about pretty much.
[01:25:15] Yeah.
[01:25:16] The Dragon Ball,
[01:25:17] the dragon,
[01:25:18] the shadow dragons are a consequence of,
[01:25:20] of using,
[01:25:22] of overuse of the Dragon Balls.
[01:25:23] It's why I like GT better than Super,
[01:25:25] because I don't think Super,
[01:25:26] I think Super is a bunch of desperate ideas.
[01:25:29] Like ID connected,
[01:25:30] disconnected ideas that are,
[01:25:31] that are decent ideas.
[01:25:32] They just never executed in a way that are,
[01:25:34] it's interesting to me personally.
[01:25:36] Well,
[01:25:37] the vibe I'm,
[01:25:37] I agree with you generally on,
[01:25:39] uh,
[01:25:40] uh,
[01:25:40] GT and stuff.
[01:25:42] Uh,
[01:25:42] whenever it comes to that story,
[01:25:44] I think that story is absolutely amazing and I hope they do right by it,
[01:25:47] but I'm pretty sure they will.
[01:25:49] GT's storyline was just mis-executed like y'all already said before.
[01:25:53] But one thing I want to say about Dragon Ball Super is that he made it for the power scalers like me.
[01:25:58] He made it for the death battle debaters.
[01:26:00] Cause they,
[01:26:01] I don't disagree with it.
[01:26:02] Cause they did feats and feats and feats and feats.
[01:26:05] I was like,
[01:26:06] yes.
[01:26:06] And they were outright saying it.
[01:26:08] Yeah.
[01:26:08] We were manipulating reality.
[01:26:10] And I was like,
[01:26:11] yes,
[01:26:11] thank you.
[01:26:12] I will concede that like Ultra Instinct looks cool.
[01:26:16] Like it just looks cool.
[01:26:17] It's my,
[01:26:17] it's,
[01:26:17] it's a better music.
[01:26:19] And the music.
[01:26:20] The music is cool.
[01:26:22] Well,
[01:26:24] the,
[01:26:24] the,
[01:26:25] the,
[01:26:25] the Dragon Ball Super manga is giving me hope that you're like,
[01:26:28] yeah,
[01:26:28] series one seemed to just be like a love letter to Dragon Ball and power scalers,
[01:26:33] really Dragon Ball Z and power scalers.
[01:26:35] Like,
[01:26:36] you know,
[01:26:36] so,
[01:26:36] so alluded to,
[01:26:37] but as they're going further in the manga,
[01:26:40] which again,
[01:26:40] I haven't read it in its entirety,
[01:26:42] but I'm kind of,
[01:26:43] it seems different.
[01:26:44] It seems a little bit more.
[01:26:47] I'm not going to say.
[01:26:47] Justin can't stand black Frieza.
[01:26:50] Well,
[01:26:50] okay.
[01:26:51] I'm excited for,
[01:26:52] black Frieza.
[01:26:53] Okay.
[01:26:53] I can't stand black Frieza.
[01:26:55] You got to bring your racism into this shit.
[01:26:58] I don't,
[01:26:59] I don't like,
[01:27:00] I don't dislike,
[01:27:01] I don't dislike black Frieza because he's black.
[01:27:04] Okay.
[01:27:04] Oh,
[01:27:05] I dislike him and he's black.
[01:27:07] This man is not black.
[01:27:08] He's purple.
[01:27:10] Bro.
[01:27:10] The memes that came out after black Frieza was revealed.
[01:27:13] Oh,
[01:27:13] I just,
[01:27:14] it's like,
[01:27:15] why,
[01:27:16] why,
[01:27:16] why are we fighting Frieza for a fourth fucking time?
[01:27:20] Who gives a shit?
[01:27:21] I just,
[01:27:22] I,
[01:27:22] I hate black Frieza.
[01:27:23] I do.
[01:27:24] With how well he's able to train.
[01:27:26] Yeah,
[01:27:26] dude,
[01:27:26] with how fast he's able to like attain power.
[01:27:29] It's,
[01:27:30] it's insane.
[01:27:31] And honestly,
[01:27:31] with how lame Broly is,
[01:27:33] I'm sorry.
[01:27:33] Everybody loves Broly.
[01:27:35] I don't like Broly.
[01:27:35] I think he's the worst character ever.
[01:27:37] I don't like his art.
[01:27:38] I don't like him.
[01:27:39] Who shots fired.
[01:27:41] It's true.
[01:27:42] I don't like Super Broly.
[01:27:44] I know.
[01:27:45] I'm pretty sure all of you probably like Broly or what'd you say,
[01:27:48] Justin?
[01:27:49] Super Broly.
[01:27:50] I like Super Broly.
[01:27:51] I,
[01:27:52] I,
[01:27:52] I,
[01:27:52] I quite,
[01:27:52] I quite like that movie.
[01:27:53] I think it's the,
[01:27:54] probably one of Dragon Balls.
[01:27:55] I started to like him in that one.
[01:27:57] Let me say there was a seed planted in a,
[01:27:59] and I don't hate him.
[01:28:00] I want to see more of him,
[01:28:02] but the thing is from all past.
[01:28:04] Yeah.
[01:28:04] Oh,
[01:28:04] you're talking.
[01:28:05] I don't think that's unfair.
[01:28:06] Yeah.
[01:28:06] You're talking OG Broly.
[01:28:08] Even the movie though,
[01:28:09] even the new movie,
[01:28:10] I wasn't,
[01:28:11] I was not a fan with how,
[01:28:13] how much he was able to grasp at his power and he was able to take on.
[01:28:18] And I'm just like,
[01:28:19] no,
[01:28:19] dude,
[01:28:20] that's garbage.
[01:28:21] It's garbage.
[01:28:22] I don't care how powerful he is.
[01:28:23] That's just,
[01:28:24] no,
[01:28:25] he wasn't even that powerful.
[01:28:26] I got my come up starting this,
[01:28:28] right?
[01:28:28] Talking about Broly and death battle and Goku versus Superman and all that
[01:28:33] shit that,
[01:28:33] that's where I first started out.
[01:28:35] I was in the trenches with you,
[01:28:36] dude,
[01:28:37] during all this shit.
[01:28:39] I wasn't sure if you were.
[01:28:41] I don't know if I was with you in,
[01:28:42] in that,
[01:28:43] in that specific battle,
[01:28:44] but I remember coming on to like the end of it.
[01:28:47] Are you guys fans of invincible at all?
[01:28:49] I am.
[01:28:50] Hell no.
[01:28:51] Okay.
[01:28:52] So,
[01:28:53] um,
[01:28:53] I've seen a lot of people be,
[01:28:54] be,
[01:28:54] be bitching and moaning about Bardock versus Omni,
[01:28:58] man.
[01:28:58] And I did make a video about this where I said,
[01:29:00] I I'm not familiar enough with Omni,
[01:29:02] man.
[01:29:02] Cause people keep saying,
[01:29:03] that,
[01:29:04] that,
[01:29:04] uh,
[01:29:05] Bardock could easily be on me,
[01:29:07] man,
[01:29:07] especially if he has super sand.
[01:29:09] Is that true?
[01:29:10] Is that a true statement?
[01:29:12] I am the dragon ball expert.
[01:29:14] I am the one who is at the top of the game when it comes to this stuff.
[01:29:19] Even Seth,
[01:29:20] the programmer will not debate me,
[01:29:22] but he's not interested in debating either.
[01:29:24] He's a,
[01:29:25] he's turned over newly.
[01:29:26] Anyways.
[01:29:27] Uh,
[01:29:27] yeah.
[01:29:29] Uh,
[01:29:30] Bardock hit for hit is way stronger,
[01:29:33] but not enough.
[01:29:35] Unfortunately,
[01:29:35] the more consistent feats of speed go to,
[01:29:40] uh,
[01:29:40] invincible.
[01:29:41] Uh,
[01:29:42] what was the dad's name again?
[01:29:43] Um,
[01:29:43] Omni man,
[01:29:45] Omni man.
[01:29:45] Yeah.
[01:29:45] What?
[01:29:46] Sorry.
[01:29:47] yeah,
[01:29:48] Eric and Jake,
[01:29:49] I warned them that I was on some gummies.
[01:29:51] So,
[01:29:51] um,
[01:29:53] Hey,
[01:29:54] I,
[01:29:54] but Omni man has endurance.
[01:29:58] He can take a hit.
[01:30:00] They have their cells are literally made up of things that can manipulate their own
[01:30:05] selves.
[01:30:06] They can move their own selves.
[01:30:07] They can hear their own selves.
[01:30:09] They can adjust to the environment.
[01:30:11] If they're in the sun,
[01:30:12] they will become more heat resistant.
[01:30:15] Like he can just keep going and going and he has more cardio.
[01:30:21] Saiyans can fight for days for sure.
[01:30:24] This guy could fight for years if he had to like,
[01:30:27] and,
[01:30:28] and filter mites don't need to breathe in space.
[01:30:32] Well,
[01:30:33] they,
[01:30:33] they,
[01:30:34] that's true.
[01:30:34] They hold their breath for an extremely long time.
[01:30:37] They can hold their breath for more than weeks at a time.
[01:30:39] Confirmed.
[01:30:40] Yeah.
[01:30:40] Goku got longer than that thing.
[01:30:42] Longer than Tony and FYI.
[01:30:45] Yeah.
[01:30:45] Longer than,
[01:30:46] but I have proven one of my most successful videos ever,
[01:30:51] uh,
[01:30:52] was,
[01:30:52] and topics was saying surviving in space.
[01:30:55] They have been confirmed to be able to survive up to at least a day,
[01:30:58] like in space,
[01:31:00] at least a day,
[01:31:01] but that's still nothing on invincible.
[01:31:04] I was going to say,
[01:31:05] if you notice when they're out in space,
[01:31:06] they're,
[01:31:06] they're actually somewhat within an atmosphere.
[01:31:09] Yeah.
[01:31:10] Uh,
[01:31:11] I like when they were all outside the plant,
[01:31:13] uh,
[01:31:13] the planet Vegeta before Frieza blew it up.
[01:31:16] Everyone's like,
[01:31:16] Oh,
[01:31:16] they're in space.
[01:31:17] I was like,
[01:31:17] well,
[01:31:17] technically they're in the upper atmosphere.
[01:31:19] I was like,
[01:31:19] it's a different planet.
[01:31:20] It could have a higher atmosphere since everybody.
[01:31:23] That's a good point.
[01:31:24] Yeah.
[01:31:25] I think that's a bit of a stretch,
[01:31:26] but maybe it has different properties.
[01:31:28] So yeah,
[01:31:28] I'm not,
[01:31:28] I'm not saying they can't survive in space.
[01:31:30] Goku went up to the moon on his power pole in Dragon Ball.
[01:31:34] That's a good point.
[01:31:35] That's a good point.
[01:31:36] Oh,
[01:31:36] that's,
[01:31:36] that's a great,
[01:31:40] hell's talking to go on.
[01:31:41] He's like,
[01:31:42] and by the time it was your age,
[01:31:43] he'd done this.
[01:31:43] And he'd said,
[01:31:44] he'd taken a rabbit to the moon.
[01:31:45] And then he go,
[01:31:46] it's like,
[01:31:47] did you make that last one up?
[01:31:50] Yeah.
[01:31:50] No,
[01:31:51] no,
[01:31:51] he did not.
[01:31:52] And you know what?
[01:31:52] The haters response is always that the Superman stars,
[01:31:55] their response always is that's Dragon Ball.
[01:31:58] It's a gag manga.
[01:31:59] It's not the same as the regular Dragon Ball Z.
[01:32:01] You can't use that beat.
[01:32:03] Oh my gosh.
[01:32:04] Yeah.
[01:32:05] Yeah.
[01:32:05] Okay.
[01:32:06] If we're,
[01:32:06] if we're referencing death battle,
[01:32:09] death battle pulls,
[01:32:10] what I like to call death battle bullshit,
[01:32:13] where they will,
[01:32:14] they will pull a random ass.
[01:32:17] They have a predetermined outcome for what they want the fight to be.
[01:32:21] And they will pull a random fucking fact,
[01:32:23] or they'll just say numbers that aren't,
[01:32:25] that don't exist.
[01:32:26] So you like,
[01:32:28] it's 16,000 quick sillion tons of force.
[01:32:31] You're like,
[01:32:31] fuck you.
[01:32:32] You can't measure that.
[01:32:33] Like,
[01:32:33] or like using the power pole against Superman.
[01:32:36] Like,
[01:32:36] come on.
[01:32:37] Yeah.
[01:32:37] Or like the,
[01:32:38] the worst example I could think of it.
[01:32:40] I,
[01:32:40] the one I always go to is the one when they were like princess peachy's
[01:32:43] ability from some random soccer game has the,
[01:32:45] has the,
[01:32:46] the proportional power of like a bajillion PSI.
[01:32:49] And it crushes Zelda's head.
[01:32:51] And I was like,
[01:32:52] what the fuck?
[01:32:53] Stupid bullshit.
[01:32:54] They don't even look up.
[01:32:55] They don't even look up how much force a human hip can withstand before they
[01:32:59] say that bullshit.
[01:33:01] It was so dumb.
[01:33:02] It's like,
[01:33:02] yes,
[01:33:02] I can deliver 800 pounds of fucking,
[01:33:05] I can deliver 8,000 pounds of,
[01:33:06] you know,
[01:33:07] force with my fist.
[01:33:08] Too bad.
[01:33:09] The human fist can only take about,
[01:33:10] you know,
[01:33:11] I don't know what the number is,
[01:33:12] but it's,
[01:33:12] it's way lower than 8,000.
[01:33:14] I'm sure.
[01:33:15] As Jordan points out,
[01:33:16] it's the reason why he hates the Superman versus Goku episode is like up
[01:33:20] until that point,
[01:33:21] none of the characters had been in character for the fight,
[01:33:23] but for some reason,
[01:33:23] Goku and Superman were in character for that fight.
[01:33:26] So it was like,
[01:33:26] well,
[01:33:26] go,
[01:33:27] it was like Superman blows up an entire planet to kill Goku.
[01:33:30] Superman would never do that unless he was the Zack Snyder version.
[01:33:35] Well,
[01:33:35] but then he wouldn't do it on purpose.
[01:33:36] He'd just be like,
[01:33:37] Oh,
[01:33:37] that planet's blowing up.
[01:33:38] Cool.
[01:33:40] I mean,
[01:33:41] I don't know.
[01:33:41] He snapped next for less.
[01:33:43] It seems that y'all are not aware that they actually had a bigger number flub than that Princess Peach.
[01:33:50] Everything.
[01:33:50] They had a way bigger mistake in the first Superman video.
[01:33:53] Go and look it up for yourself.
[01:33:55] First Superman video.
[01:33:56] Look at the speed stats.
[01:33:57] They use the same number twice in a row.
[01:34:01] That video is bullshit.
[01:34:02] And then they did a second one in which they had a two minute fight and then they spent 15 minutes lecturing you about how they were right.
[01:34:09] Exactly.
[01:34:10] It was awful.
[01:34:11] It was awful.
[01:34:12] And then they made a third one.
[01:34:15] And then they made a third one.
[01:34:16] And it was like,
[01:34:17] and then they had Superman win again.
[01:34:20] And it was like,
[01:34:20] for the exact same reasons.
[01:34:22] Yeah.
[01:34:22] Well,
[01:34:22] they were just like,
[01:34:23] yeah,
[01:34:23] we were,
[01:34:23] we were definitely right the last time.
[01:34:25] Then why did you waste any of our,
[01:34:26] and then,
[01:34:27] and then the internet jerked off all over it.
[01:34:29] It was awful.
[01:34:30] I was like,
[01:34:31] ah,
[01:34:31] then they look like that irritates me.
[01:34:33] It just looked like Randy at the end of that South Park episode.
[01:34:36] It was just,
[01:34:37] they were like,
[01:34:38] it's a spooky ghost.
[01:34:42] Y'all got it.
[01:34:44] That's about right.
[01:34:47] I think they drive me.
[01:34:48] Their arrogance drives me crazy because they don't put any effort into doing the research,
[01:34:52] but then they like,
[01:34:53] especially when it comes to Dragon Ball,
[01:34:54] they don't do any of their,
[01:34:55] like every time they do a Dragon Ball character,
[01:34:58] it is,
[01:34:58] it's awful.
[01:34:59] They get it wrong every time.
[01:35:01] Yeah,
[01:35:01] but research is boring and junk.
[01:35:04] Sometimes you just want Superman to win and you need to support it with a logical data.
[01:35:11] So here's the,
[01:35:11] I would forgive them if they hurry up and make my Bakihama Ujiro fight.
[01:35:16] Put Ujiro in there and all will be forgiven.
[01:35:22] So who,
[01:35:23] who wins that fight?
[01:35:25] No,
[01:35:26] just Ujiro versus anyone.
[01:35:27] I just want to see it.
[01:35:28] I want to see him animated and all that stuff.
[01:35:30] They've been doing some pretty animations though.
[01:35:32] Like I will give them that.
[01:35:33] Some of their more recent fights would be looking pretty.
[01:35:36] No Bakih.
[01:35:36] Oh yeah.
[01:35:37] Believe it or not,
[01:35:38] the research has gotten better.
[01:35:40] That's not saying a lot,
[01:35:41] but it has.
[01:35:43] Yeah.
[01:35:45] Well,
[01:35:45] I found it,
[01:35:46] that show got better when they visualize the characters and they,
[01:35:50] they,
[01:35:50] they were like death battle takes place in its own universe.
[01:35:53] It uses its own logic.
[01:35:55] Don't apply real world logic to this.
[01:35:57] Then what's the point?
[01:35:58] Then at that point it became easier for me to,
[01:36:01] to,
[01:36:02] to like ignore stupid bullshit that crops up in that show.
[01:36:07] I say that out of a place of love.
[01:36:09] This,
[01:36:09] this has come across very angry.
[01:36:11] I do enjoy death battle.
[01:36:14] Well,
[01:36:15] that's why I threw in that little extra,
[01:36:18] you know,
[01:36:19] compliments.
[01:36:20] Cause they know I'm keeping it real.
[01:36:22] You gotta get that compliment sandwich in there.
[01:36:25] Yeah.
[01:36:26] you gotta make sure that you're not sure you're biased or else people won't
[01:36:28] trust you.
[01:36:29] Yeah.
[01:36:30] Fair.
[01:36:31] And sometimes they still won't trust you because it's,
[01:36:33] I was arguing with people in comments today and it's like,
[01:36:37] my favorite one though,
[01:36:38] is some asshole on Tik TOK was like,
[01:36:40] you won't bring me on your podcast and debate me cause you're a coward.
[01:36:43] And I'm like,
[01:36:43] what are you doing next Sunday?
[01:36:45] Yeah.
[01:36:47] I'll take it.
[01:36:48] I'll take anyone.
[01:36:49] Yeah.
[01:36:49] It's like,
[01:36:50] no company.
[01:36:51] You're absolutely.
[01:36:52] I'd love to have you on.
[01:36:53] And what I find those whenever I do get in comment arguments,
[01:36:56] which I don't even call them arguments.
[01:36:57] Cause Eric likes to hit them in the nuts.
[01:36:59] I like to kill them with kindness,
[01:37:01] which is really funny.
[01:37:02] Cause we comment under the same username.
[01:37:03] So it's very confusing for people.
[01:37:06] Well,
[01:37:06] generally I try to say it's me or you.
[01:37:09] Yeah,
[01:37:10] I know,
[01:37:10] but we,
[01:37:10] we,
[01:37:10] we both fuck it.
[01:37:11] You can tell though,
[01:37:12] in the tone of the comments.
[01:37:14] Cause I'm just like,
[01:37:15] like today,
[01:37:16] some guy was giving me shit.
[01:37:17] He was like,
[01:37:17] and you deleted my comment.
[01:37:18] And I'm like,
[01:37:19] which comment was it?
[01:37:20] Was it the one where you called me stupid or the one you said my reading comprehension sucks?
[01:37:23] And he was like,
[01:37:24] reading comprehension sucks.
[01:37:25] I'm like,
[01:37:25] no,
[01:37:25] it's still there.
[01:37:26] We don't delete comments.
[01:37:27] It's it's,
[01:37:27] it's right there,
[01:37:28] buddy.
[01:37:30] He hasn't,
[01:37:30] he hasn't,
[01:37:32] he hasn't responded yet because he doesn't know what to make of the fact that I'm like,
[01:37:35] no,
[01:37:35] no,
[01:37:35] no,
[01:37:35] no.
[01:37:35] It's still there.
[01:37:36] You know,
[01:37:36] where you called me an idiot.
[01:37:37] Yeah.
[01:37:37] It's,
[01:37:38] it's there.
[01:37:39] That's my policy.
[01:37:41] No deleting comments.
[01:37:42] Yeah.
[01:37:42] We don't.
[01:37:42] That's what I told him.
[01:37:44] I said,
[01:37:44] we never delete comments.
[01:37:45] I've only deleted one comment.
[01:37:47] And because it was speaking ill of the dead and.
[01:37:50] I forgot about that.
[01:37:50] Yeah.
[01:37:51] That was.
[01:37:51] I told him,
[01:37:52] I said,
[01:37:53] fuck you.
[01:37:53] And I blocked him from our channel.
[01:37:55] It's the only time I've ever done that.
[01:37:57] I,
[01:37:57] I will.
[01:37:58] I will.
[01:38:00] Only if it's.
[01:38:02] Like I went through it.
[01:38:03] Oh man.
[01:38:04] I don't like to talk about this guy.
[01:38:05] I went through a period where people were calling me Ronnie McNutt.
[01:38:10] And,
[01:38:10] uh,
[01:38:11] you should,
[01:38:11] it sounds fun.
[01:38:13] Yeah.
[01:38:13] It sounds,
[01:38:14] it sounds funny until you find out what the guy did.
[01:38:17] Don't.
[01:38:18] No,
[01:38:18] no.
[01:38:19] No,
[01:38:19] keep us in suspense.
[01:38:21] Okay.
[01:38:22] Um,
[01:38:23] okay.
[01:38:24] Well,
[01:38:24] so if you Google it,
[01:38:26] the,
[01:38:27] the man,
[01:38:28] um,
[01:38:28] uh,
[01:38:29] okay.
[01:38:30] I don't want you to get demo.
[01:38:31] Cause you guys actually can get monetized.
[01:38:33] Um,
[01:38:34] he,
[01:38:34] we're not monetized.
[01:38:36] Okay.
[01:38:36] He blew his brains out on Facebook live there.
[01:38:39] Okay.
[01:38:39] I said it.
[01:38:40] Um,
[01:38:40] and if you Google,
[01:38:42] Facebook live,
[01:38:43] that was so easy.
[01:38:45] Oh,
[01:38:45] you know what?
[01:38:46] Dude,
[01:38:47] that's,
[01:38:47] that's evil to say that man.
[01:38:50] Yeah.
[01:38:51] And,
[01:38:51] uh,
[01:38:51] and you can,
[01:38:52] if you Google it,
[01:38:53] that's how I learned Reddit doesn't give you any content warning when you open up videos.
[01:38:57] Cause you can watch it and it's upsetting.
[01:38:59] And,
[01:39:00] people kept calling me that in my,
[01:39:02] in my comment.
[01:39:02] And it's like 16,
[01:39:04] 15 year old morons.
[01:39:05] Right.
[01:39:05] Who think they're funny.
[01:39:07] Um,
[01:39:07] but it was upsetting to be,
[01:39:10] to have people be like,
[01:39:11] you should do that.
[01:39:12] And yeah,
[01:39:13] it bummed me out.
[01:39:13] Yeah.
[01:39:13] That's,
[01:39:14] that's exactly where I knew it was going.
[01:39:15] See,
[01:39:16] And the thing of it is,
[01:39:17] fuck those people.
[01:39:18] Cause there was one comment.
[01:39:19] Yeah.
[01:39:20] So,
[01:39:21] somebody,
[01:39:21] I don't remember exactly.
[01:39:22] I don't remember exactly.
[01:39:23] I felt throughout the name,
[01:39:24] Ronnie McNutt.
[01:39:25] Yeah.
[01:39:25] Um,
[01:39:26] but there was one comment where somebody said,
[01:39:27] I don't remember exactly,
[01:39:28] but it was something to the effect of like the Nazi should have finished the job.
[01:39:31] And I actually responded to,
[01:39:33] I said,
[01:39:33] I'm going to leave this right here.
[01:39:35] So everybody can see you.
[01:39:37] Like,
[01:39:38] I just,
[01:39:39] I don't get like this.
[01:39:40] That's disinfectant.
[01:39:42] Hey.
[01:39:44] Sheek.
[01:39:45] Like,
[01:39:45] say cheese.
[01:39:48] But she liked that.
[01:39:49] I don't know.
[01:39:49] It's like,
[01:39:50] man,
[01:39:50] wait,
[01:39:50] we see guys talking about four guys talking about dragon ball Z,
[01:39:55] you know,
[01:39:55] and you want to like come in and like take the fun out of it.
[01:39:57] Well,
[01:39:58] why do that?
[01:39:58] Like,
[01:39:59] Oh God,
[01:39:59] Eric,
[01:39:59] you gotta,
[01:40:00] you gotta comment earlier today where some,
[01:40:01] somebody called you a want to be talk show host.
[01:40:03] And I almost commented.
[01:40:04] I was like,
[01:40:04] well,
[01:40:05] well,
[01:40:05] yeah,
[01:40:06] what's your kind of,
[01:40:09] you know,
[01:40:10] what's the name of your show?
[01:40:11] Someone called me a want to be.
[01:40:13] Yeah.
[01:40:13] And I'm just like,
[01:40:14] well,
[01:40:14] I mean,
[01:40:15] technically he's not a want to be now.
[01:40:16] I mean,
[01:40:16] he has a talk show.
[01:40:17] He's got,
[01:40:17] he has a talk show.
[01:40:19] He's got more subscribers.
[01:40:20] At the same time,
[01:40:21] want to be or not like,
[01:40:23] what are you doing?
[01:40:24] Just want to be.
[01:40:25] I wanted to say like,
[01:40:26] yeah,
[01:40:27] that's why we're doing this.
[01:40:30] It's why he wants it.
[01:40:31] We want to be a,
[01:40:33] yeah.
[01:40:33] Yeah.
[01:40:34] You think we're just here to just wait for your comments and your negativity?
[01:40:38] No.
[01:40:39] Oh no.
[01:40:39] Pay.
[01:40:40] Want to be paying when 34 said we're losers.
[01:40:42] We should just close up shop.
[01:40:44] Right.
[01:40:45] Wait,
[01:40:45] my thing is when they have no profile pic.
[01:40:46] You're like,
[01:40:47] yeah,
[01:40:47] I'm going to take some guy with no.
[01:40:49] Oh my gosh.
[01:40:50] Some guy with no profile pic said,
[01:40:52] said my opinion on a,
[01:40:53] on a,
[01:40:53] on a comic book movie was bad.
[01:40:56] And so now we're,
[01:40:57] Hey,
[01:40:58] we're writing all your names down.
[01:40:59] We're writing all your names down.
[01:41:01] And when we get rich,
[01:41:02] we're going to Jane silent,
[01:41:03] Bob,
[01:41:04] your ass.
[01:41:05] Are you stuffy buddy?
[01:41:07] Fucking 42.
[01:41:09] Are you a fan?
[01:41:13] Are you,
[01:41:14] are you Snyder lover?
[01:41:16] Those are the guys who hate me.
[01:41:18] The,
[01:41:18] the Snyder lovers.
[01:41:19] They hate me.
[01:41:20] They hate me a lot.
[01:41:22] I don't know.
[01:41:23] I think they might hate me because I really had some unkind things to say about the Snyder cut.
[01:41:30] Did you call that Superman a murderer?
[01:41:33] I called him a murderer so many times.
[01:41:36] He's a murderer who does murders.
[01:41:39] Hey,
[01:41:39] Oh,
[01:41:44] but I did.
[01:41:44] I basically,
[01:41:45] I basically called him a moron because I'm like,
[01:41:48] Oh,
[01:41:49] look at me.
[01:41:50] I can travel faster than the speed of sound.
[01:41:53] I can literally run around the planet faster than anyone could see me.
[01:41:56] So this tornado that's running significantly slower than I can run,
[01:42:00] I can literally grab my dad,
[01:42:03] throw him in a ditch and then run around.
[01:42:05] So no one can see me at all.
[01:42:08] But no,
[01:42:08] I'm just going to sit there and watch it.
[01:42:11] Why?
[01:42:11] It's so stupid.
[01:42:12] He's like,
[01:42:13] my dad told me not to.
[01:42:13] It's like,
[01:42:14] you can pick him up and throw him.
[01:42:17] I,
[01:42:17] there is the most,
[01:42:19] the most,
[01:42:22] and I use this loosely controversial video I ever made.
[01:42:25] I got so many angry comments was,
[01:42:28] it was like a fight,
[01:42:30] a fight between it's like all of the Batman,
[01:42:33] all of the,
[01:42:34] all the,
[01:42:35] all of the live action Batman,
[01:42:36] all of the live action flashes and all of the live action Superman.
[01:42:41] And I think it was all of the live action Spider-Man and who would win the
[01:42:46] fight.
[01:42:47] And I said,
[01:42:47] Batman is immediately out of there.
[01:42:48] What is he even doing in this fight?
[01:42:50] Um,
[01:42:50] I said,
[01:42:51] hang on,
[01:42:52] hang on.
[01:42:53] Does he have prep time?
[01:42:55] Uh,
[01:42:55] no,
[01:42:56] no,
[01:42:56] I think,
[01:42:56] I think the purpose is that he does that.
[01:42:58] But even,
[01:42:59] even then I said,
[01:43:00] uh,
[01:43:00] the Henry Cavill version of Superman would murder all of them and not even
[01:43:04] hesitate while the other Superman just clapped.
[01:43:07] And,
[01:43:08] and,
[01:43:08] and a lot of Snyder fans got mad at that.
[01:43:10] Dude,
[01:43:11] I don't know.
[01:43:11] Spider-Man is pretty powerful.
[01:43:13] I mean,
[01:43:14] the Snyder Superman would snap all of their necks before they could blink.
[01:43:17] It's all,
[01:43:19] it's all in the prep time.
[01:43:20] And here's the thing though.
[01:43:21] I think Batman.
[01:43:22] Oh,
[01:43:22] go ahead.
[01:43:24] Uh,
[01:43:24] well,
[01:43:25] I was just saying I can settle the whole Zack Snyder debate right here,
[01:43:29] right now.
[01:43:30] Easy.
[01:43:31] He recently made rebel moon debate over.
[01:43:35] Let's move on.
[01:43:37] Wait,
[01:43:38] wait.
[01:43:38] Okay.
[01:43:38] No,
[01:43:39] hold on.
[01:43:39] Hold on.
[01:43:40] Time,
[01:43:40] time flag on play.
[01:43:41] I have questions.
[01:43:42] Your,
[01:43:42] your tone of voice was,
[01:43:44] was sort of neutral there.
[01:43:45] Is the implication that that movie is bad?
[01:43:48] Yeah.
[01:43:51] What,
[01:43:51] what,
[01:43:52] what would,
[01:43:52] why would you say that?
[01:43:55] Totally true thing.
[01:43:58] Incredibly accurate.
[01:44:00] I hate women.
[01:44:01] You see,
[01:44:01] and especially women of color.
[01:44:04] I can't just seeing them on the screen.
[01:44:08] Clip this.
[01:44:10] And you don't want to watch the six hour long version with more sexual assault.
[01:44:15] Piss during the mermaid.
[01:44:16] No,
[01:44:16] of them gathering grain for three of the four hours.
[01:44:22] Lovely.
[01:44:25] Actually,
[01:44:25] Sosa has the distinct honor of being behind.
[01:44:27] Probably.
[01:44:28] What is my personal favorite short we've ever done?
[01:44:30] Is when we were reviewing black Panther.
[01:44:32] And he was like,
[01:44:33] yeah,
[01:44:34] you were going on a rant talking about how like women don't want to see this.
[01:44:38] They want to see Thor.
[01:44:40] I mean,
[01:44:41] not the last one,
[01:44:42] but.
[01:44:43] Yeah.
[01:44:45] Yeah.
[01:44:46] Yeah.
[01:44:47] No one wanted to see the last one.
[01:44:49] I mean,
[01:44:50] for viral clips,
[01:44:51] you're very welcome.
[01:44:52] I do.
[01:44:53] I love it.
[01:44:53] I didn't hate.
[01:44:54] There's going to be some other,
[01:44:55] there's going to be some other people.
[01:44:57] They're going to be like,
[01:44:57] we caught one.
[01:44:58] We see,
[01:44:59] we got it.
[01:45:00] Let's use it.
[01:45:02] Print it.
[01:45:03] It's like,
[01:45:03] we literally put it out there,
[01:45:05] but nice job.
[01:45:06] Yeah.
[01:45:06] My,
[01:45:07] my two favorite things about the last Thor movie are,
[01:45:09] um,
[01:45:10] at the end when it says,
[01:45:11] uh,
[01:45:12] Thor will return.
[01:45:13] Uh,
[01:45:14] when Chris Hemsworth turned to Taika Waititi and went,
[01:45:17] he will.
[01:45:18] And the second moment is the interview at like several,
[01:45:22] a year later where Chris Hemsworth went,
[01:45:24] we might've gone too far.
[01:45:25] It might've been a little too silly.
[01:45:28] You think Chris,
[01:45:30] you think?
[01:45:31] I was impressed with Chris Hemsworth though,
[01:45:33] for standing up to Taika Waititi like he did.
[01:45:35] Props to him.
[01:45:37] Yeah.
[01:45:38] I mean,
[01:45:38] somebody should have done that a lot sooner.
[01:45:41] But he learned,
[01:45:42] at least he learned and he was willing to stand up for it.
[01:45:45] And he didn't say,
[01:45:46] he didn't say some of the buzzwords,
[01:45:48] but we knew what he meant.
[01:45:49] And you know,
[01:45:50] he,
[01:45:51] he level guy,
[01:45:52] I think.
[01:45:53] Maybe,
[01:45:54] maybe don't let the guy who actively hates the property that he's making
[01:45:58] the movie for make the movie.
[01:45:59] That's all I'm saying.
[01:46:00] Oh,
[01:46:00] that's what I'm saying.
[01:46:08] Only people that haven't seen any of the previous stuff.
[01:46:13] Like,
[01:46:14] is that,
[01:46:15] is that what you're implying?
[01:46:17] No,
[01:46:18] I was being a hundred percent serious.
[01:46:20] That's literally what the people behind she,
[01:46:22] she,
[01:46:23] Hulk,
[01:46:23] the people behind.
[01:46:25] I did not know the source material.
[01:46:29] So I'm having a lot of fun.
[01:46:31] You'll probably start seeing some shorts and or memes coming out where,
[01:46:34] like,
[01:46:35] I thought about this about gladiator too.
[01:46:37] So the infamous somehow Palpatine's returned.
[01:46:39] Just anytime there's a bad sequel coming out,
[01:46:41] I'm going to start creating a meme or a short that somehow alludes to that.
[01:46:45] So for gladiator too,
[01:46:46] I'm just going to have like somebody just be like,
[01:46:48] somehow Commodus has returned.
[01:46:52] Wait.
[01:46:52] It's been so long since I've seen gladiator,
[01:46:54] which,
[01:46:54] which is,
[01:46:55] what's the name of,
[01:46:56] uh,
[01:46:56] is that the name of walking Phoenix's character?
[01:46:59] Yeah.
[01:47:00] Oh,
[01:47:00] okay.
[01:47:00] Actually,
[01:47:01] I was just going to say,
[01:47:01] I would love it.
[01:47:02] If he just walked down and was just like,
[01:47:03] I'm alive.
[01:47:05] No,
[01:47:06] he just gets up.
[01:47:06] He's like,
[01:47:09] I'm going to quickly transition.
[01:47:11] Listen to this whenever y'all are done to Joker too.
[01:47:13] Speaking of walking Phoenix,
[01:47:14] cause Oh my God.
[01:47:16] Yeah.
[01:47:17] I want to,
[01:47:17] I want to see it.
[01:47:18] I haven't seen it.
[01:47:19] I haven't seen it.
[01:47:20] I want to see it because I hear it's bad.
[01:47:21] No,
[01:47:22] you don't.
[01:47:22] Don't see it.
[01:47:23] Actually,
[01:47:24] you know what?
[01:47:25] Jake,
[01:47:26] I think,
[01:47:26] you know,
[01:47:26] I watch movies because they're bad.
[01:47:28] I was going to say,
[01:47:29] you'll enjoy it.
[01:47:31] You'll enjoy it for all reasons.
[01:47:33] Yeah.
[01:47:34] Oh no.
[01:47:35] I see.
[01:47:35] And here's the frustrating thing.
[01:47:37] Here's the frustrating thing from a technical standpoint.
[01:47:40] It's a great movie.
[01:47:42] I just love how they're ashamed of the fact that it's a musical.
[01:47:45] I think that's fucking hysterical.
[01:47:46] they're,
[01:47:47] they're absolutely not ashamed of it.
[01:47:49] No,
[01:47:49] I mean,
[01:47:50] I mean,
[01:47:50] everyone who made that movie is like that.
[01:47:52] There's there.
[01:47:53] I,
[01:47:53] there's a really funny,
[01:47:55] funny.
[01:47:56] I've seen so many funny press tour clips of Todd Phillips,
[01:47:59] who looks like he'd rather be anywhere else.
[01:48:02] He just looks miserable promoting that movie.
[01:48:04] It's so funny.
[01:48:05] Yeah.
[01:48:06] My theory is that Joaquin Phoenix was like,
[01:48:10] I want to do another Joker movie.
[01:48:12] And then Todd Phillips is like,
[01:48:13] fuck it.
[01:48:13] I'll take another paycheck.
[01:48:14] Sure.
[01:48:15] And then halfway through pre-production,
[01:48:17] he's like,
[01:48:19] but I want it to be a musical.
[01:48:21] And if it's not a musical,
[01:48:24] I'm going to walk because I don't need your fucking money.
[01:48:27] Is it really?
[01:48:27] That's a musical.
[01:48:29] Yeah.
[01:48:29] It's a musical.
[01:48:30] Yeah.
[01:48:30] Apparently it's,
[01:48:31] it's a narrative film with psychotic musical numbers.
[01:48:34] I don't know that I would call it a musical per se.
[01:48:37] I know you too,
[01:48:39] Jake,
[01:48:39] have you?
[01:48:40] Yeah.
[01:48:40] I saw it on Monday.
[01:48:41] Cause we,
[01:48:41] they say it's not a Todd Phillips insists.
[01:48:44] It's not a musical.
[01:48:45] It is a movie with musical moments.
[01:48:47] Because it's a middle finger to those who love the original.
[01:48:51] That's what I was going to ask.
[01:48:53] Is it,
[01:48:53] is it just not Joker?
[01:48:54] I was like,
[01:48:55] was it just,
[01:48:56] I mean,
[01:48:57] it is intentionally made to let us down.
[01:48:59] Dude.
[01:49:00] That first one was so amazing.
[01:49:02] Well,
[01:49:02] the second one undermines it.
[01:49:04] The second one undermines the premise of the first one.
[01:49:07] Yep.
[01:49:08] What if they did that on purpose?
[01:49:09] Like,
[01:49:09] I don't know.
[01:49:10] Like,
[01:49:10] I don't,
[01:49:11] I don't know.
[01:49:12] So then like,
[01:49:13] what do you think?
[01:49:13] There's going to be a third one and it's just going to blow everyone's mind.
[01:49:16] No,
[01:49:16] no,
[01:49:17] no.
[01:49:17] I'm going to keep something real.
[01:49:18] This shows I'm not biased.
[01:49:21] I freaking love the tone of the ending.
[01:49:25] Jake,
[01:49:26] you know what I'm talking about.
[01:49:26] I love how they set up the actual Joker coming.
[01:49:31] Really?
[01:49:31] I thought that was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard.
[01:49:33] And I loved it for that reason.
[01:49:34] I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard.
[01:49:36] No,
[01:49:36] it's good.
[01:49:37] It's good.
[01:49:37] I'm telling you when you go see it,
[01:49:39] it's good.
[01:49:39] That's one of the few,
[01:49:40] see,
[01:49:41] it had so many gold gems within this film.
[01:49:43] It's just surrounded by 90 pounds of crap.
[01:49:46] But yeah,
[01:49:47] like so many cool things.
[01:49:49] And that was one of them.
[01:49:50] Like,
[01:49:51] man,
[01:49:51] I cannot wait to see that next Joker.
[01:49:53] I am sold on him.
[01:49:55] Well,
[01:49:55] the joke,
[01:49:56] the joke that I made today was that,
[01:49:57] yeah,
[01:49:58] they're going to do a third one,
[01:49:58] but Joaquin Phoenix,
[01:50:00] Joaquin Phoenix is going to be like,
[01:50:02] yeah,
[01:50:02] but it's got to all be in French.
[01:50:04] Well,
[01:50:05] let's see.
[01:50:05] I don't think,
[01:50:06] I don't think they're going to make it there.
[01:50:08] The only reason why the second one exists was the first one made too much money.
[01:50:12] That's the reason why.
[01:50:13] they're,
[01:50:13] they're making it,
[01:50:14] bro.
[01:50:14] Like when you see it,
[01:50:15] you know what I mean?
[01:50:16] It's a directly up for the setup.
[01:50:17] They're setting up an actual Joker.
[01:50:19] Yeah.
[01:50:20] I mean,
[01:50:20] where they closed the book and we're like,
[01:50:22] nope,
[01:50:22] this is standalone.
[01:50:23] And then a few years later,
[01:50:24] they're like,
[01:50:25] Oh,
[01:50:25] right.
[01:50:26] This.
[01:50:27] Yeah.
[01:50:27] But this one,
[01:50:29] we probably never get that other Joker.
[01:50:30] Cause this one bops so hard.
[01:50:32] Yeah.
[01:50:32] That's what I mean.
[01:50:33] This one,
[01:50:33] this one is,
[01:50:34] is,
[01:50:34] is,
[01:50:34] uh,
[01:50:36] uh,
[01:50:36] reviewing very poorly and,
[01:50:38] and it,
[01:50:39] it,
[01:50:39] uh,
[01:50:39] it's reviewing very poorly and it's not going to make,
[01:50:44] it's going to bomb.
[01:50:44] It's going to bomb as a result.
[01:50:46] And so they,
[01:50:46] I don't think they're going to make a third one.
[01:50:48] Like I,
[01:50:48] I've seen people like,
[01:50:50] pretty united on like both sides.
[01:50:52] Like nobody really seems to like this movie.
[01:50:54] And it's,
[01:50:55] it's that kind of bad.
[01:50:56] That's not even fun to hate watch.
[01:50:58] Like Madam web made money because people went to watch it because it was bad.
[01:51:02] I don't think that that's going to happen here.
[01:51:04] People aren't like me.
[01:51:05] They're not,
[01:51:05] they don't watch me because they're bad.
[01:51:06] This isn't,
[01:51:07] this isn't,
[01:51:08] this isn't one of those good hate watches.
[01:51:10] I'll tell you what,
[01:51:11] the funnest hate watch I've ever had in my life.
[01:51:14] And I am now,
[01:51:15] I have never been more thankful for anything that Marvel has ever made was She-Hulk,
[01:51:19] bro.
[01:51:19] I hate watched the shit out of that.
[01:51:22] And it was brilliant.
[01:51:23] Every single second proving everything we ever said.
[01:51:26] Right.
[01:51:26] I fucking love that.
[01:51:27] This is not one of them.
[01:51:28] I,
[01:51:29] I look,
[01:51:30] I,
[01:51:30] I love,
[01:51:31] I love She-Hulk because it,
[01:51:34] it made the,
[01:51:36] the,
[01:51:36] the,
[01:51:36] it was,
[01:51:36] it was tailored made to make the,
[01:51:38] the,
[01:51:38] that kind of person who like,
[01:51:41] like who all they do is yell into a camera on TikTok.
[01:51:44] I don't know if you're familiar with the TikToker,
[01:51:45] the marvelous Mark,
[01:51:47] but like,
[01:51:48] he's just a guy who his entire existence is yelling into a camera.
[01:51:52] Like,
[01:51:52] but like those,
[01:51:55] those guys,
[01:51:56] that show was,
[01:51:57] was made to troll them.
[01:51:59] And because I'm a big troll,
[01:52:01] like in my,
[01:52:02] in my heart of hearts,
[01:52:03] I am the biggest troll.
[01:52:05] you're the nicest troll though.
[01:52:07] I,
[01:52:08] I love,
[01:52:08] I love,
[01:52:09] I love a good trolling.
[01:52:10] I love a good,
[01:52:10] like seeing,
[01:52:12] like seeing people give the exact reaction.
[01:52:14] I've led a few on in my day.
[01:52:17] Yeah.
[01:52:17] Like I,
[01:52:18] when I first started on TikTok,
[01:52:19] my whole thing was,
[01:52:20] was fucking with trolls.
[01:52:21] Like,
[01:52:22] so just like,
[01:52:23] I,
[01:52:23] I,
[01:52:24] that's true.
[01:52:24] You are,
[01:52:24] you are kind of the anti-troll.
[01:52:27] I just,
[01:52:27] I just,
[01:52:28] I love hassling people who,
[01:52:30] who like get upset about,
[01:52:32] people that clearly care.
[01:52:34] Yeah.
[01:52:34] Like people who care,
[01:52:35] clearly care way more about this than you do.
[01:52:38] Yeah,
[01:52:38] exactly.
[01:52:39] Yeah.
[01:52:39] It's like,
[01:52:39] I'm going to argue with you not to prove my point,
[01:52:41] but just to piss you off.
[01:52:43] Pretty,
[01:52:44] pretty,
[01:52:44] pretty much.
[01:52:45] That's,
[01:52:45] that's why I,
[01:52:47] I,
[01:52:47] I,
[01:52:47] when I watch she Hulk,
[01:52:49] I,
[01:52:50] I just like,
[01:52:50] I,
[01:52:50] I'm seeing,
[01:52:51] I'm seeing my TikTok for you page and I'm seeing,
[01:52:54] I'm seeing the angry videos and then I just like clockwork,
[01:52:58] open up my TikTok and it's just angry video after,
[01:53:01] it's just the exact thing this show predicted.
[01:53:04] That's why I found she Hulk funny.
[01:53:06] Not the show itself,
[01:53:08] the show itself.
[01:53:08] So explain Velma to me.
[01:53:10] What's the,
[01:53:10] what's the logic behind Velma?
[01:53:12] What we haven't,
[01:53:13] we have a running segment called what's going on with Velma,
[01:53:16] where we talk about what's going on with Velma.
[01:53:18] Yeah.
[01:53:18] I stopped watching the show.
[01:53:19] So that's how I keep up actually.
[01:53:22] Yeah.
[01:53:22] Yeah.
[01:53:22] That's how Jordan keeps up is I,
[01:53:24] I,
[01:53:24] I don't even watch the show.
[01:53:25] I watch it in isolated clips on Tik TOK.
[01:53:27] And then I discern what's happening on that show.
[01:53:31] There's,
[01:53:32] I could tell scrappy do murders Velma.
[01:53:37] Yeah.
[01:53:37] And Mindy Kaling hates Scooby-Doo.
[01:53:39] That's it.
[01:53:39] That's all I've got.
[01:53:40] It got canceled after two seasons.
[01:53:42] In fact,
[01:53:42] that's going to be the final update to what's going on with Velma.
[01:53:45] This,
[01:53:46] this weekend on the show is going to be me being like,
[01:53:48] they canceled the show.
[01:53:49] So nothing.
[01:53:50] Thank God.
[01:53:53] Yeah.
[01:53:54] Uh,
[01:53:54] did,
[01:53:55] so did anybody else just bring it back to dragon ball though,
[01:53:57] when they were circulating all those pictures of like Disney five,
[01:54:00] Goku,
[01:54:03] like so many people were rightly,
[01:54:06] rightly freaking out.
[01:54:07] I remember that.
[01:54:08] I'm like,
[01:54:08] Oh Jesus.
[01:54:09] We're going to get fucking non-binary homosexual.
[01:54:12] Oh,
[01:54:12] homo,
[01:54:13] homo,
[01:54:13] homo,
[01:54:13] homo,
[01:54:14] homo,
[01:54:15] Honestly,
[01:54:16] I think,
[01:54:17] I think the closest thing to Disney,
[01:54:19] man,
[01:54:20] it might be a dragon ball diamond.
[01:54:21] Uh,
[01:54:21] I,
[01:54:22] I,
[01:54:22] I think dragon ball is kind of already the version of dragon ball that Disney would do only because it's already kind of sanitized.
[01:54:30] Like it's,
[01:54:31] it's missing the violence.
[01:54:32] I think that it used to have where,
[01:54:33] you know,
[01:54:34] like Goku gets impaled through the chest or Krillin gets like impaled with,
[01:54:38] with Frieza's horns.
[01:54:39] I have heard that this show Dima puts an eager stop to that.
[01:54:45] It brings back the blood.
[01:54:47] Yep.
[01:54:48] Well,
[01:54:48] the reason,
[01:54:48] the reason for that was kids too.
[01:54:52] Well,
[01:54:52] no,
[01:54:52] the reason honestly for that was,
[01:54:54] uh,
[01:54:54] dragon ball supers time slot in Japan.
[01:54:57] I'm excited.
[01:54:58] Oh,
[01:54:58] I heard it was,
[01:54:59] um,
[01:54:59] because,
[01:55:00] um,
[01:55:01] I,
[01:55:01] I had heard that it was because it came to America.
[01:55:04] Like if it got really big in America,
[01:55:05] it was about international markets.
[01:55:06] No,
[01:55:07] because the original,
[01:55:08] it's not like they edited out the blood and gore.
[01:55:10] They,
[01:55:10] it was sanitized from the get go straight out of Japan.
[01:55:14] Interesting.
[01:55:15] Cause I know when it,
[01:55:15] yeah.
[01:55:16] Cause I,
[01:55:16] I didn't know it.
[01:55:17] Like when I,
[01:55:18] when I watched,
[01:55:18] when I rewatched it this past time,
[01:55:21] I really noted how brutal it is.
[01:55:23] I was like,
[01:55:23] Oh wow,
[01:55:24] this is significantly more brutal than I remember.
[01:55:27] Yeah.
[01:55:27] Dragon Ball Super aired it.
[01:55:29] Like I think it was 10 AM on Saturdays in Japan.
[01:55:33] Oh,
[01:55:34] interesting.
[01:55:35] I didn't know that.
[01:55:35] Apparently there's a,
[01:55:38] uh,
[01:55:38] this interview where there's one of the,
[01:55:41] uh,
[01:55:41] one of the writers,
[01:55:43] uh,
[01:55:43] being interviewed and his response to,
[01:55:47] Hey,
[01:55:47] is this show going to have any blood?
[01:55:49] Is it going to be gory or not?
[01:55:50] His response was,
[01:55:51] well,
[01:55:52] we're going into the demon realm.
[01:55:54] So I was like,
[01:55:55] all right,
[01:55:56] all right.
[01:55:58] Watch it be,
[01:55:59] watch it be totally not gory.
[01:56:00] And he was like,
[01:56:00] what did you mean by that?
[01:56:01] He's like,
[01:56:01] I just said we were going to the demon realm.
[01:56:03] I didn't say we were going to stab it.
[01:56:05] Motherfuckers.
[01:56:06] Yeah.
[01:56:07] I think,
[01:56:08] I think,
[01:56:08] cause that was a pretty widely held complaint with viewers about super,
[01:56:12] you know,
[01:56:13] that would actually make sense why they all turn into children because the demon Deborah,
[01:56:17] remember how powerful he was?
[01:56:19] Like he was still taken out by boo and everybody's stronger than boo now.
[01:56:23] So you bring them back to children and their powers are severely,
[01:56:27] severely,
[01:56:27] severely limited.
[01:56:29] So therefore,
[01:56:30] you know,
[01:56:31] like,
[01:56:31] I don't know if that's the reason I'm dying to know the reason.
[01:56:35] I'm,
[01:56:36] I'm,
[01:56:36] I'm excited for it.
[01:56:37] I didn't like,
[01:56:38] I honestly,
[01:56:40] for me,
[01:56:41] I think I discovered that I only really care for dragon ball when a character ever writes
[01:56:45] it.
[01:56:45] So like,
[01:56:46] I don't know what are your guys' thoughts?
[01:56:49] Of the franchise post Dima.
[01:56:51] Now that Akira Toriyama is no longer involved.
[01:56:55] Like me and Jordan had this discussion of when Dima is over,
[01:56:58] I'm going to care less.
[01:57:00] Like do,
[01:57:01] but do you guys think,
[01:57:02] should they end dragon ball with Dima or?
[01:57:04] Nah,
[01:57:05] no,
[01:57:05] keep it going.
[01:57:05] They should,
[01:57:06] they won't.
[01:57:08] I'm good with any adaptation.
[01:57:10] That was me.
[01:57:12] I'm good with more dragon ball.
[01:57:14] I'm fine.
[01:57:15] I'll just choose whether I like it or I don't like it,
[01:57:17] you know?
[01:57:17] And I hope I'll,
[01:57:19] I like it.
[01:57:19] Like GT,
[01:57:20] like I watched it because it was a continuation.
[01:57:22] I was like,
[01:57:22] Oh hell yeah,
[01:57:23] I'm going to watch this.
[01:57:24] And then like at the end of it,
[01:57:25] I was like,
[01:57:26] Oh,
[01:57:26] that was kind of not my,
[01:57:27] my,
[01:57:28] their best work,
[01:57:29] but you know,
[01:57:29] and then more came out and I was like,
[01:57:31] Hey,
[01:57:32] this was cool too.
[01:57:33] Well,
[01:57:33] and I'm going to,
[01:57:33] I'm going to steal Justin's favorite Superman quote and attribute it to television shows.
[01:57:38] If you kill a series,
[01:57:40] you deny it the opportunity to get better.
[01:57:43] That is true.
[01:57:44] That is true.
[01:57:44] That is not inaccurate.
[01:57:46] Yeah.
[01:57:46] I mean,
[01:57:47] I love Dragon Ball.
[01:57:48] Dragon Ball to me is like,
[01:57:50] uh,
[01:57:52] I will watch anything Dragon Ball.
[01:57:53] Like just,
[01:57:54] just put it to you that way.
[01:57:54] I will enjoy anything Dragon Ball related.
[01:57:57] Same.
[01:57:57] I will,
[01:57:58] no matter how much I don't ultimately love it.
[01:58:04] Although I will,
[01:58:05] I will,
[01:58:06] I will concede one of the greatest Dragon Ball moments of all time is at the end of Dragon Ball Super,
[01:58:12] where it's Goku,
[01:58:13] Frieza and a 17 pushing Jiren out of the thing.
[01:58:17] And the music,
[01:58:18] the,
[01:58:18] the ultra instinct music is kicking in.
[01:58:20] The Japanese version is the best version of it.
[01:58:22] The ultra instinct music is kicking in and Goku and Frieza are pushing him out and Goku keeps flicking in and out of Super Saiyan.
[01:58:28] Oh,
[01:58:28] Oh,
[01:58:29] that sequence is so good.
[01:58:31] Like it is so good.
[01:58:32] It's some of the best Dragon Ball in life.
[01:58:34] Dragon Ball.
[01:58:35] That's some good shit.
[01:58:36] Did I get it?
[01:58:36] I get it.
[01:58:37] I get a kick out of the videos,
[01:58:39] uh,
[01:58:39] in across Latin America with people watching it,
[01:58:42] like in these big public spaces.
[01:58:44] Yeah.
[01:58:45] That's,
[01:58:45] that's fucking wild.
[01:58:47] That's some cool shit.
[01:58:48] Watching,
[01:58:49] watching,
[01:58:50] going to watch Dragon Ball in a theater,
[01:58:52] which is why I'm really hoping Diamond comes to theaters.
[01:58:54] Cause when I got to watch Dragon Ball suit or that's Broly and just like being in a,
[01:58:58] being in a crowded theater with like Dragon Ball fans,
[01:59:00] like cheering on Goku and Vegeta fighting guys,
[01:59:03] there's just something like special about that.
[01:59:05] Same thing with,
[01:59:06] with battle of gods.
[01:59:07] Cause it was like the first Dragon Ball Z movie in like forever.
[01:59:10] When I went to watch that,
[01:59:11] it was like a packed theater of people.
[01:59:14] And yeah,
[01:59:14] Oh,
[01:59:14] that movie was,
[01:59:15] I think that that movie,
[01:59:17] I remember it better,
[01:59:19] more like better as a better movie because of my experience watching it in the theater.
[01:59:23] Yeah.
[01:59:24] I wouldn't argue with that.
[01:59:24] I remember Eric and I,
[01:59:25] we saw Broly and a superhero in the theater together.
[01:59:29] And it was,
[01:59:30] uh,
[01:59:30] it was,
[01:59:31] first of all,
[01:59:31] it was really cool.
[01:59:32] I thought this,
[01:59:33] cause the first Dragon Ball movie I saw in theaters was resurrection F.
[01:59:37] And I think,
[01:59:38] yeah,
[01:59:38] I've seen everyone since.
[01:59:40] Um,
[01:59:40] but I remember thinking like,
[01:59:41] how cool is this?
[01:59:42] That fucking Dragon Ball is in a movie theater.
[01:59:45] And it's like,
[01:59:46] it's legit.
[01:59:47] Rad.
[01:59:48] I don't like resurrection F,
[01:59:50] but once again,
[01:59:50] watching that in the theater makes that movie better.
[01:59:53] It does.
[01:59:53] I need some opinions.
[01:59:54] What,
[01:59:54] what do y'all think of a beast Gohan?
[01:59:57] Lame.
[01:59:58] And orange Piccolo.
[02:00:00] And orange Piccolo.
[02:00:00] Lamer.
[02:00:01] I,
[02:00:02] I agree.
[02:00:03] Don't love him.
[02:00:05] No,
[02:00:05] don't love him.
[02:00:05] I,
[02:00:06] I,
[02:00:06] I,
[02:00:06] I,
[02:00:07] I,
[02:00:07] I like what they are,
[02:00:08] but I don't like how they attain their power.
[02:00:10] That,
[02:00:10] that,
[02:00:10] that kind of,
[02:00:11] I don't even like what they are.
[02:00:13] I,
[02:00:14] I'd like Gohan's form.
[02:00:15] I don't like orange Piccolo.
[02:00:16] But it,
[02:00:16] it made no sense why he,
[02:00:18] he goes to that.
[02:00:19] Like it makes no sense.
[02:00:19] Like Ultra Instinct and Super Saiyan Blushers and Super Saiyan God.
[02:00:23] Like they all kind of make sense with the,
[02:00:25] how they explain the story,
[02:00:26] but be still Han because.
[02:00:29] Yeah.
[02:00:30] I thought that's what Mystic Form was.
[02:00:32] Well,
[02:00:32] and we kept,
[02:00:32] well,
[02:00:32] so my theory,
[02:00:34] I don't know if you remember this when we talked about it,
[02:00:36] when we did our superhero,
[02:00:37] superhero review.
[02:00:37] The character's cool.
[02:00:38] Don't get me wrong.
[02:00:39] Well,
[02:00:39] my theory is that it's just a,
[02:00:41] uh,
[02:00:41] it's basically him going Super Saiyan 2 in his ultimate form.
[02:00:46] He's mixing the energies together.
[02:00:47] Yeah.
[02:00:48] I could be wrong,
[02:00:49] but I try to make sense of this shit.
[02:00:50] Like my theory.
[02:00:51] Well,
[02:00:51] my theory,
[02:00:51] that actually kind of does make sense.
[02:00:53] Well,
[02:00:53] my theory,
[02:00:54] my theory,
[02:00:54] my theory about orange Piccolo is that it's the Mechian God transformation because it's
[02:00:59] orange.
[02:01:00] Like the dragon ball.
[02:01:00] That also makes sense.
[02:01:01] That does make sense.
[02:01:02] Yeah.
[02:01:03] But why,
[02:01:03] why,
[02:01:04] why did he have to be turned into it by the dragon balls?
[02:01:07] Like,
[02:01:07] because they're,
[02:01:08] well,
[02:01:09] because nevermind.
[02:01:10] It makes sense that the dragon would be able to do that for him because the dragon
[02:01:13] is essentially from the Mechian race.
[02:01:15] So yeah,
[02:01:17] nevermind.
[02:01:17] Listen,
[02:01:18] it's full potential.
[02:01:19] The bump in mind changed on orange Piccolo.
[02:01:22] Wow.
[02:01:23] If only they thought to ask Porunga for that.
[02:01:25] My thing with the orange Piccolo,
[02:01:27] it does feel a little bit like someone had a box of like,
[02:01:31] or like even better,
[02:01:32] like a dartboard with like colors on it and just went.
[02:01:36] Pop.
[02:01:37] Orange.
[02:01:38] See,
[02:01:38] orange actually makes sense to me though.
[02:01:40] Purple Piccolo eaters.
[02:01:41] Like,
[02:01:42] yeah,
[02:01:42] we were,
[02:01:42] we were like,
[02:01:43] yeah,
[02:01:43] we were like a dartboard away from purple Piccolo.
[02:01:45] Like that's,
[02:01:46] that's,
[02:01:47] that's how they decide.
[02:01:48] Because like,
[02:01:49] I would be cool with purple Piccolo.
[02:01:51] Yeah.
[02:01:51] I can't explain that one.
[02:01:52] I can't explain purple Piccolo.
[02:01:53] I don't,
[02:01:54] I don't know.
[02:01:54] I'm just fucking.
[02:01:55] I can't explain.
[02:01:56] It flows nicely.
[02:01:57] Well,
[02:01:57] I can't explain purple.
[02:01:58] I can't,
[02:01:59] I can't.
[02:01:59] I don't care.
[02:02:00] Purple low.
[02:02:01] I'm defending him.
[02:02:03] I mean,
[02:02:04] if the,
[02:02:05] as in terms of alliteration,
[02:02:06] the name,
[02:02:07] we know we're,
[02:02:08] we're just,
[02:02:08] we're just joking around.
[02:02:09] Uh,
[02:02:10] he,
[02:02:10] uh,
[02:02:11] a commenter said it's the color of the dragon balls.
[02:02:13] And we're just,
[02:02:14] we're just making fun of it.
[02:02:16] That's what,
[02:02:17] that's what I'm saying.
[02:02:18] Yeah.
[02:02:18] We're just poking fun.
[02:02:20] Poke balls.
[02:02:21] I'm talking like externally,
[02:02:22] like Dragon Ball's at a point where like,
[02:02:25] we,
[02:02:25] it's a new Dragon Ball thing.
[02:02:26] We need a transformation.
[02:02:28] Do you guys think there's going to be a new transformation in Diamond?
[02:02:31] I think that Toriyama might resist the urge.
[02:02:34] Yeah.
[02:02:34] I don't,
[02:02:35] I don't.
[02:02:35] I think it's literally just going to be Super Saiyan.
[02:02:37] That's it.
[02:02:38] I don't think there's going to be anything past it.
[02:02:40] If we do,
[02:02:40] if we do see kids Super Saiyan 4,
[02:02:42] which won't happen because it makes no sense,
[02:02:43] that'd be a fuck over retcon.
[02:02:45] That might be kind of wild to see,
[02:02:46] but I don't think they're going to go that route.
[02:02:49] I guess the hair's dragging on the floor.
[02:02:52] The thing I've discovered about Dragon,
[02:02:53] Dragon Ball fans,
[02:02:56] present company excluded,
[02:02:57] is they don't really get continuity.
[02:02:59] So like,
[02:03:00] there's a lot of people being like,
[02:03:01] are we going to get to see kid ultra instinct?
[02:03:03] No,
[02:03:04] no,
[02:03:05] you're not because ultra instinct doesn't exist yet because this,
[02:03:07] this show technically takes place before super.
[02:03:11] So you will not see ultra instinct.
[02:03:12] You're not going to see God.
[02:03:14] You won't see blue.
[02:03:15] You at best.
[02:03:16] We'll see Super Saiyan,
[02:03:17] maybe Super Saiyan 3.
[02:03:18] We'll probably see it in heroes.
[02:03:20] And if they want to do it,
[02:03:21] watch them.
[02:03:22] Ooh,
[02:03:22] maybe a demonic form.
[02:03:24] A demonic form.
[02:03:25] Yeah.
[02:03:25] That's what Jordan said.
[02:03:27] Jordan was like,
[02:03:27] Oh,
[02:03:28] they'll probably do a form where they'll be,
[02:03:29] Oh,
[02:03:29] he can only achieve it when he's a kid.
[02:03:31] So that way they don't have to explain why it doesn't show up.
[02:03:33] And,
[02:03:33] and demon saying,
[02:03:36] demon.
[02:03:37] Yeah,
[02:03:37] probably.
[02:03:37] Dean say,
[02:03:38] demon say,
[02:03:39] I mean,
[02:03:39] again,
[02:03:39] he has to revert back to his kid form to be able to lose control of his
[02:03:43] senses like that.
[02:03:45] He's mad.
[02:03:47] So,
[02:03:48] but do I,
[02:03:49] you guys,
[02:03:50] I know,
[02:03:50] I know Jake does it,
[02:03:51] but you,
[02:03:51] the other,
[02:03:52] you get Eric and Sussie,
[02:03:53] you guys don't watch Rick and Morty,
[02:03:54] do you?
[02:03:56] Nah,
[02:03:57] there's a,
[02:03:59] I,
[02:03:59] I,
[02:03:59] I have heard good things about the show.
[02:04:02] And from what I hear,
[02:04:04] the principle of it sounds good.
[02:04:07] I just don't dig the humor.
[02:04:09] I just don't see it.
[02:04:10] It's not saying.
[02:04:11] Yeah.
[02:04:11] Anytime anyone's like,
[02:04:12] I don't like it.
[02:04:12] I totally understand.
[02:04:13] But there's a,
[02:04:14] the reason why I mentioned it is there's a bit in it where,
[02:04:19] very try to keep the explanation very short,
[02:04:21] but there's a point where he winds up in another dimension and there's a
[02:04:25] Nazi version of one of the main characters called Nazi Morty.
[02:04:28] And he kidnaps,
[02:04:29] he kidnaps our version of Rick.
[02:04:31] And he's like,
[02:04:32] I want to go on simple,
[02:04:34] basic Rick and Morty adventures,
[02:04:36] nothing too complicated.
[02:04:37] And that's what I feel like Kira Toriyama became with Dragon Ball,
[02:04:42] where he was like,
[02:04:42] we just want to get back to simple Dragon Ball adventures with the power
[02:04:47] pole stick and the Dragon Balls.
[02:04:49] And there's no transformations.
[02:04:50] And they,
[02:04:51] they just go on a fun little adventure and we don't have to worry about
[02:04:54] power level bullshit.
[02:04:55] Like he's wanting to do that for like years.
[02:04:58] That's why,
[02:04:59] that's why in the first three episodes of super,
[02:05:01] Goku has a tractor and is a farmer.
[02:05:03] Like,
[02:05:04] and why,
[02:05:04] and why Vegeta is just on a fun little family vacation.
[02:05:07] Like that's what a Kira Toriyama wants.
[02:05:09] And the fans fucking hate that bullshit.
[02:05:12] Like,
[02:05:12] I agree.
[02:05:13] And that's why I always just turned into Dragon Ball super with that.
[02:05:17] Oh my God.
[02:05:18] I cannot stand the concept of him being a farmer when he could be rich as
[02:05:22] heck and not do anything illegal.
[02:05:26] Like,
[02:05:26] no,
[02:05:27] this is so stupid.
[02:05:28] See,
[02:05:28] that's what anyone says.
[02:05:30] I hate Chi Chi as the character.
[02:05:32] F that female dog.
[02:05:33] I do not care.
[02:05:34] She is the most unreasonable psycho I've ever seen.
[02:05:38] I hate her.
[02:05:40] Agreed.
[02:05:41] I don't disagree.
[02:05:41] I do not disagree with that.
[02:05:42] In Dragon Ball Z,
[02:05:43] she's pretty brutal.
[02:05:44] But by super and GT in particular,
[02:05:47] she's like,
[02:05:47] she's kind of like,
[02:05:48] no,
[02:05:48] just go away now.
[02:05:49] Like,
[02:05:51] I don't inherently disagree.
[02:05:53] She has witnessed him save the world.
[02:05:55] She is the most ungrateful female dog in existence.
[02:05:59] Well,
[02:06:00] yeah,
[02:06:00] but groceries.
[02:06:02] I,
[02:06:03] I see,
[02:06:04] see the thing is,
[02:06:05] Jake,
[02:06:05] Jake will attest.
[02:06:06] I'm weird.
[02:06:07] So,
[02:06:08] um,
[02:06:08] I enjoy that.
[02:06:10] I enjoy,
[02:06:10] Jordan,
[02:06:10] Jordan hates the slice of life.
[02:06:12] I love the slice of life stuff.
[02:06:14] I love,
[02:06:14] I love being like,
[02:06:15] what's Krillin up to on a Thursday afternoon?
[02:06:18] Like,
[02:06:18] I want an entire episode where she's Krillin shopping.
[02:06:20] Like,
[02:06:21] I,
[02:06:21] I love that shit.
[02:06:22] I think it's hilarious.
[02:06:23] We got that actually.
[02:06:24] I would want an entire show of that.
[02:06:26] Yeah,
[02:06:26] we did get that.
[02:06:27] Thankfully.
[02:06:28] Once.
[02:06:29] Only once.
[02:06:30] But like,
[02:06:30] I enjoy it where it's like,
[02:06:31] Vegeta's got to just be a regular dad on a vacation.
[02:06:35] And he's got to deal with standing in a line.
[02:06:37] We did.
[02:06:37] That's my favorite episode of super where it's like,
[02:06:39] I like that.
[02:06:40] on the,
[02:06:41] on the little train and he's tolerating,
[02:06:43] taking his son on a vacation.
[02:06:45] Cause yes.
[02:06:45] The thing is that works because it's,
[02:06:47] it's done very rarely.
[02:06:48] That's why it's funny.
[02:06:49] If you see it all the time,
[02:06:50] you're just like,
[02:06:51] Oh,
[02:06:51] that's Jordan.
[02:06:52] That's what Jordan says.
[02:06:53] I,
[02:06:54] I,
[02:06:54] and I,
[02:06:54] I understand that sentiment,
[02:06:56] but I,
[02:06:57] I,
[02:06:57] I don't care.
[02:06:58] I would watch a thousand episodes of that because I think it's funny.
[02:07:01] But you said you didn't like Hiffle.
[02:07:04] No,
[02:07:05] because it's,
[02:07:05] I don't know.
[02:07:06] It's different when it's the actual people who write the show writing it.
[02:07:10] And yeah,
[02:07:11] I guess,
[02:07:11] I don't know.
[02:07:12] Also with,
[02:07:13] with super it's.
[02:07:14] Savit has done some really funny stuff with that dub.
[02:07:18] Um,
[02:07:18] that I,
[02:07:19] I personally enjoy that are just straight up references to team four star.
[02:07:23] That is true.
[02:07:25] Yeah.
[02:07:26] He even give them,
[02:07:27] he gave them bit roles in the Xenoverse games too,
[02:07:30] which is quite funny.
[02:07:30] He did.
[02:07:31] There's also,
[02:07:32] if you watch kind in Kai,
[02:07:34] if you can go,
[02:07:35] you can YouTube it,
[02:07:36] but there's a cut for air version of the,
[02:07:40] in the baby saga,
[02:07:42] the one where,
[02:07:43] where they're watching the reenactment of the cell saga and the boo saga,
[02:07:46] where they have the team four star actors.
[02:07:48] They,
[02:07:48] yeah.
[02:07:49] I toy hated that.
[02:07:50] So they made them cut it and change it.
[02:07:52] Yeah,
[02:07:52] but they did.
[02:07:52] They did.
[02:07:53] It was recorded and put out.
[02:07:55] Not,
[02:07:55] not in,
[02:07:56] uh,
[02:07:56] not aired,
[02:07:57] but it is,
[02:07:58] you can't,
[02:07:59] you can't find it.
[02:08:00] Yes,
[02:08:00] you absolutely can.
[02:08:01] Yeah.
[02:08:01] So Sabbath loves those guys.
[02:08:03] So yeah,
[02:08:03] he does.
[02:08:04] That's why I like the super dub more because it's just funny.
[02:08:08] Why doesn't he just give them jobs?
[02:08:09] That's what I don't understand.
[02:08:11] Cause a toy hates.
[02:08:12] No,
[02:08:12] what I don't understand is the irony and the fact that,
[02:08:15] uh,
[02:08:15] Christopher Sabbath looks so much like Harvey Weinstein and acts just like him.
[02:08:23] Christopher Sabbath.
[02:08:24] Really?
[02:08:25] Yeah,
[02:08:25] bro.
[02:08:26] Look him up.
[02:08:26] Mr.
[02:08:27] Couch,
[02:08:27] the casting couch himself.
[02:08:29] I mean,
[02:08:29] I know what he looks like.
[02:08:30] That's a,
[02:08:31] I'm forgetting what he looks like.
[02:08:34] He was very nice to me.
[02:08:36] Yeah,
[02:08:36] he is nice.
[02:08:37] I met him too,
[02:08:38] but yeah,
[02:08:39] I'm just saying.
[02:08:40] said,
[02:08:40] said Sabbath.
[02:08:41] If he dies,
[02:08:43] law Lonnie gets to take over his official Vegeta.
[02:08:48] Oh yeah.
[02:08:49] Yeah.
[02:08:49] Yeah.
[02:08:50] Yeah.
[02:08:50] He's a,
[02:08:51] I love his,
[02:08:51] by the way,
[02:08:52] I forgot to say this and I haven't,
[02:08:54] I haven't said it in a good while.
[02:08:56] We were talking about freezer earlier.
[02:08:58] Best voice ever was Chris Ayers.
[02:09:00] May he rest in peace.
[02:09:01] I agree.
[02:09:02] You know,
[02:09:03] I don't disagree.
[02:09:04] Look,
[02:09:04] we've talked about,
[02:09:05] we've talked about my love for Linda young.
[02:09:06] I'm a Linda young fan.
[02:09:08] I love the,
[02:09:09] the chain smoking.
[02:09:10] She sounds like she smokes.
[02:09:12] Yeah.
[02:09:12] Yeah.
[02:09:13] If you hear,
[02:09:14] hear her do Frieza now,
[02:09:15] it's like,
[02:09:15] it's a little like watching the lady who does.
[02:09:18] She can be second.
[02:09:19] But it's,
[02:09:20] it's,
[02:09:21] she's great.
[02:09:22] But I,
[02:09:22] Chris Ayers is,
[02:09:23] my love of Chris Ayers is,
[02:09:25] is,
[02:09:25] is actually from Dragon Ball Zia bridge.
[02:09:28] It's because I love team four star Frieza so much.
[02:09:31] And team four star Frieza is basically Chris Ayers,
[02:09:34] Vegeta,
[02:09:35] even though they're unrelated.
[02:09:36] They're not connected at all.
[02:09:38] Yeah.
[02:09:38] It's funny.
[02:09:39] They get on that,
[02:09:39] but I feel like that,
[02:09:40] that accent that they chose for that Frieza is so easy to mimic and no one can mimic,
[02:09:45] uh,
[02:09:45] Linda young.
[02:09:46] That's why I respect her more.
[02:09:47] Yeah.
[02:09:49] You do it really well.
[02:09:50] Uh,
[02:09:50] the new dude does it really well.
[02:09:52] Yeah.
[02:09:53] I got to meet Linda young.
[02:09:54] She was cool,
[02:09:55] dude.
[02:09:55] She is.
[02:09:56] I hear she's nice.
[02:09:56] Yeah.
[02:09:56] She's very nice.
[02:09:57] Yeah.
[02:09:58] And again,
[02:09:59] I will say this.
[02:10:00] I don't think anybody on planet earth could have played getting Kai in the English dub other
[02:10:03] than Linda young.
[02:10:04] So,
[02:10:04] and,
[02:10:04] and you,
[02:10:05] you're a show.
[02:10:05] So definitely a Linda young fan,
[02:10:08] but I do appreciate it.
[02:10:10] She'd still,
[02:10:11] that's what I'm saying.
[02:10:12] Yeah.
[02:10:13] Yeah.
[02:10:13] She did say that.
[02:10:13] Chris Ayers is closer to the original intent.
[02:10:16] He's closer to the original Japanese version of the character.
[02:10:18] I agree with you.
[02:10:19] And I feel that from him too.
[02:10:21] And that's,
[02:10:21] that's what I really liked.
[02:10:22] I will say that like,
[02:10:23] but see,
[02:10:24] it got easy to mimic.
[02:10:26] That's see,
[02:10:27] but to,
[02:10:27] to the,
[02:10:28] to the commenter who just said,
[02:10:29] see,
[02:10:30] I feel the opposite about Chris Ayers.
[02:10:31] Cause when I heard they recast Frieza,
[02:10:34] I was like,
[02:10:34] Oh God,
[02:10:35] here we go.
[02:10:35] And then I heard it and I was like,
[02:10:37] Oh,
[02:10:38] okay.
[02:10:39] I didn't love it at first.
[02:10:40] I can be a hundred percent fair.
[02:10:41] I didn't,
[02:10:42] it truly wasn't until I,
[02:10:43] I discovered,
[02:10:45] uh,
[02:10:45] Dragon Ball Z abridged where I was like,
[02:10:47] I appreciate the dry wit and just that teetering on the edge of being enraged.
[02:10:51] I think,
[02:10:52] I think Dragon,
[02:10:53] I think Dragon Ball Z abridged works so well because their Frieza is simultaneously funny,
[02:10:57] but he'll turn like legitimately dark on a dime.
[02:11:00] But that's,
[02:11:01] that's what I feel Chris Ayers version of that.
[02:11:04] Yeah.
[02:11:04] And I agree.
[02:11:05] I agree.
[02:11:05] Like he's got some of his funny,
[02:11:07] like resurrection F like that,
[02:11:09] like where he's being tortured by,
[02:11:11] um,
[02:11:12] by his version of hell.
[02:11:14] And when he's an earth hell,
[02:11:15] which made me enjoy and go,
[02:11:16] wait,
[02:11:16] is there other versions of like,
[02:11:18] does Namik have its own hell?
[02:11:19] Like,
[02:11:20] cause theoretically,
[02:11:21] yes.
[02:11:22] Uh,
[02:11:23] X gamer said,
[02:11:24] I was saying is easier for casual viewers to digest.
[02:11:28] Sorry.
[02:11:28] That's true.
[02:11:29] No,
[02:11:30] no,
[02:11:30] you're good.
[02:11:30] I was just mimicking some of the team four star lines.
[02:11:33] Oh,
[02:11:33] look,
[02:11:34] more baby seals.
[02:11:36] You'll be getting to remind me of one of them.
[02:11:40] My first favorite is 17.
[02:11:43] I was trying to do.
[02:11:44] I'm just a little bit.
[02:11:46] Absolutely.
[02:11:47] Live it.
[02:11:48] It's one of my favorites.
[02:11:50] Actually,
[02:11:51] actually my favorite freezer line is that's stupid.
[02:11:54] You're stupid.
[02:11:55] Stop being stupid.
[02:11:57] That's another great one.
[02:11:59] How do you function?
[02:12:01] I put my legs on my pants on one pat at a time.
[02:12:05] What does he say?
[02:12:05] I do my taxes one leg at a time.
[02:12:09] Stupid.
[02:12:10] That's stupid.
[02:12:11] Don't be stupid.
[02:12:13] Kidney shot.
[02:12:13] Kidney shot.
[02:12:15] And I don't know enough of team four star.
[02:12:18] And he keeps telling me,
[02:12:20] I,
[02:12:20] I,
[02:12:21] I,
[02:12:21] I want to like,
[02:12:22] you should.
[02:12:23] No,
[02:12:24] no.
[02:12:24] Okay.
[02:12:25] Okay.
[02:12:25] Jake,
[02:12:26] Jake,
[02:12:26] Jake.
[02:12:27] Uh,
[02:12:27] no,
[02:12:27] sorry.
[02:12:27] Eric.
[02:12:28] Sorry.
[02:12:28] I'm high.
[02:12:29] Forgive me.
[02:12:30] Um,
[02:12:31] you know,
[02:12:32] I know the differences.
[02:12:33] No,
[02:12:33] this is not one of these excuse ones.
[02:12:35] This is not one of them.
[02:12:37] You put it on the list ones.
[02:12:39] This is,
[02:12:40] you go and see it as if star Wars were actually good.
[02:12:43] You go and see it tomorrow.
[02:12:46] Watch the shit.
[02:12:48] All right.
[02:12:48] Fine.
[02:12:49] Daddy,
[02:12:49] not in front of the malcontent.
[02:12:54] That was great.
[02:12:56] That was great.
[02:13:00] Everybody has so many great lines.
[02:13:01] And then of course,
[02:13:02] then there's Krillin.
[02:13:03] Whack.
[02:13:05] Whack.
[02:13:07] I don't know.
[02:13:08] I don't know.
[02:13:09] I don't know.
[02:13:10] It'd be hilarious.
[02:13:11] Self mode.
[02:13:12] Don't fail me now.
[02:13:14] I'm just saying not enough respect goes to Krillin.
[02:13:16] Not enough.
[02:13:17] Not enough respect goes to Krillin.
[02:13:19] Look,
[02:13:19] I brought the emotions.
[02:13:21] And I love it because it's more true to the original.
[02:13:24] Yeah.
[02:13:25] I'm Goku and I'm an insane.
[02:13:27] I'm insane.
[02:13:27] Or how's it?
[02:13:28] How's it?
[02:13:30] Insane.
[02:13:30] From Earth.
[02:13:33] He means insane.
[02:13:35] My favorite guy,
[02:13:36] because I can do his voice so good,
[02:13:38] is,
[02:13:38] is,
[02:13:39] you know,
[02:13:40] oh,
[02:13:40] hold on one second.
[02:13:42] Nail's gonna waste your smug ass.
[02:13:47] What is it?
[02:13:48] What is he doing?
[02:13:50] Okay.
[02:13:50] Nail.
[02:13:51] Jake did show me the nail one.
[02:13:54] Lower.
[02:13:55] Bro,
[02:13:56] I'm getting junky to get right now.
[02:13:57] So good.
[02:13:58] Use it.
[02:13:59] It's like,
[02:14:00] there's a forbidden technique,
[02:14:02] so we're gonna abuse it all maliciously.
[02:14:05] It's funny because,
[02:14:06] like,
[02:14:06] a lot of that,
[02:14:07] a lot of that Namek stuff,
[02:14:09] like,
[02:14:09] in terms of,
[02:14:10] like,
[02:14:10] the fact that they don't have genitals,
[02:14:12] or that they drink only water,
[02:14:14] or the fusion technique being forbidden.
[02:14:17] I thought that Team Four Star made all that stuff up.
[02:14:19] So,
[02:14:20] like,
[02:14:20] when I watched Dragon Ball Z,
[02:14:22] and it was like,
[02:14:22] oh no,
[02:14:22] that shit's,
[02:14:23] like,
[02:14:23] actually from the show.
[02:14:24] I was like,
[02:14:24] oh,
[02:14:25] oh,
[02:14:25] okay.
[02:14:26] That's so funny.
[02:14:27] Why is Vegeta the best of everything?
[02:14:31] I mean,
[02:14:32] that's a fair point.
[02:14:33] Why don't you come up here and say that?
[02:14:35] I am ahead.
[02:14:36] Then maybe you should quit while you are.
[02:14:40] He's got,
[02:14:41] oh,
[02:14:41] I'm a big Vegeta lover.
[02:14:43] Especially in a bridge,
[02:14:45] because it's always so much fun.
[02:14:46] Like,
[02:14:47] they really capture and dial Vegeta up to,
[02:14:50] like,
[02:14:50] 50,
[02:14:50] where he's just so braggadocious
[02:14:52] right before he gets knocked down,
[02:14:55] like,
[02:14:55] about 12 pegs.
[02:14:56] Right?
[02:14:57] I think,
[02:14:58] I think Lannick Pator once said that
[02:15:00] overconfident Vegeta
[02:15:01] is his favorite Vegeta.
[02:15:02] Just,
[02:15:03] what does he say to 18?
[02:15:04] He's like,
[02:15:05] not bad for an oversized washing machine.
[02:15:07] And no,
[02:15:08] I'm not saying that because you're a woman.
[02:15:15] I'm just saying.
[02:15:18] Just saying.
[02:15:20] Then of course,
[02:15:21] when 18 knocks him into that mountain,
[02:15:23] did anybody get the number of that bitch?
[02:15:27] 18.
[02:15:28] Thank you.
[02:15:29] Thank you.
[02:15:32] 18.
[02:15:35] Bro,
[02:15:36] some of the scenes in Team Four Star
[02:15:38] are better than the original.
[02:15:40] People are literally talking about that.
[02:15:42] Yeah,
[02:15:43] they are.
[02:15:43] They legit are.
[02:15:44] But they,
[02:15:44] they hate that.
[02:15:45] They hate it when people say that.
[02:15:46] But hey,
[02:15:47] look,
[02:15:47] it's true.
[02:15:48] And I mean,
[02:15:49] I'll give,
[02:15:50] I'll give,
[02:15:50] I mean,
[02:15:51] the thing is,
[02:15:51] they do have 20 years of hindsight.
[02:15:54] Yeah.
[02:15:54] Yeah.
[02:15:55] But,
[02:15:56] but yeah,
[02:15:56] I was talking about TN's moment with the,
[02:15:59] you know,
[02:15:59] like fuck power levels.
[02:16:01] Fuck super.
[02:16:05] You showed me that one.
[02:16:07] That was just as cool as the original.
[02:16:11] I was like,
[02:16:11] dude,
[02:16:11] then I'd argue it's cooler,
[02:16:14] but then seamlessly transfers back to hilarious.
[02:16:16] Huh?
[02:16:16] Not dead yet.
[02:16:17] That's weird.
[02:16:18] Oh,
[02:16:18] there we go.
[02:16:20] Yeah.
[02:16:21] Oh,
[02:16:21] fuck yourself.
[02:16:22] I remember the first time I saw that scene,
[02:16:27] I was such a TN fan boy.
[02:16:30] I was like,
[02:16:30] that's so fucking cool.
[02:16:33] Princess trunks.
[02:16:36] There's guru.
[02:16:41] yep.
[02:16:41] I saw a bird.
[02:16:43] It was pretty,
[02:16:45] pretty.
[02:16:46] I think I'll call you Toriyama.
[02:16:52] Toriyama.
[02:16:53] Toriyama.
[02:16:58] Jake,
[02:16:59] you're in for a treat,
[02:17:00] my man.
[02:17:01] You,
[02:17:01] we,
[02:17:01] we,
[02:17:02] we will come back and we will do another podcast and be like,
[02:17:06] how was it?
[02:17:07] And then we're just going to quote the lines all show long.
[02:17:13] It also helps that the dragon blend's kicking in.
[02:17:19] Oh,
[02:17:20] God.
[02:17:20] Who,
[02:17:20] who,
[02:17:21] who,
[02:17:21] who,
[02:17:22] uh,
[02:17:22] Oh,
[02:17:22] it's Popo when Popo,
[02:17:24] when,
[02:17:24] uh,
[02:17:25] when they bring Dende to earth to become the guardian and Dende is still kind of like iffy about it.
[02:17:29] And then Popo whips out a joint and Dende is just like,
[02:17:31] yo,
[02:17:32] you,
[02:17:32] I like you.
[02:17:34] Completely side note.
[02:17:36] How strong is Popo?
[02:17:38] Seriously.
[02:17:38] Uh,
[02:17:40] are you talking Dragon Ball?
[02:17:41] Are you talking Dragon Ball Z abridged?
[02:17:43] Eh,
[02:17:43] oh,
[02:17:45] well,
[02:17:45] I don't know anything about it.
[02:17:46] Okay,
[02:17:47] sorry,
[02:17:47] sorry,
[02:17:47] sorry.
[02:17:48] In a bridge,
[02:17:48] he's a,
[02:17:48] uh,
[02:17:50] in a bridge,
[02:17:51] Shenron is subservient to him.
[02:17:53] Yeah,
[02:17:53] he's a,
[02:17:54] he's a,
[02:17:54] he's an elder god.
[02:17:55] When Popo,
[02:17:56] when Popo,
[02:17:58] in the Frieza saga,
[02:18:00] he's like,
[02:18:00] oh,
[02:18:00] master,
[02:18:01] is it time to lay waste to this world yet?
[02:18:03] No,
[02:18:03] not yet.
[02:18:04] Let the maggots live a few more years.
[02:18:07] Let me,
[02:18:08] let me expand on this though.
[02:18:10] Like,
[02:18:10] think about it.
[02:18:11] Weiss is stronger than beer.
[02:18:13] And he's his teacher and how Beerus treats him.
[02:18:16] So,
[02:18:16] you know,
[02:18:17] Popo,
[02:18:17] it's like,
[02:18:17] who is he?
[02:18:19] How strong?
[02:18:19] Popo doesn't take shit from anybody in DVZ abridged.
[02:18:23] Nope.
[02:18:23] Not at all.
[02:18:24] All right.
[02:18:25] Now,
[02:18:25] you,
[02:18:25] you,
[02:18:26] you,
[02:18:26] you,
[02:18:26] you,
[02:18:26] you,
[02:18:27] oh,
[02:18:29] God,
[02:18:29] yeah,
[02:18:29] because what,
[02:18:30] what does Kami say?
[02:18:31] He's,
[02:18:32] oh,
[02:18:33] it's the,
[02:18:33] it's the beginning of,
[02:18:36] god damn,
[02:18:36] is it one of the movies?
[02:18:37] Anyway,
[02:18:38] Kami,
[02:18:38] Kami,
[02:18:39] dude said,
[02:18:39] Popo solo's BLM.
[02:18:43] No,
[02:18:43] but,
[02:18:45] somebody says about Popo,
[02:18:47] he's like,
[02:18:47] are you even legal?
[02:18:48] Oh,
[02:18:49] that's Fidel in the boo bits.
[02:18:51] Are you even legal?
[02:18:53] No,
[02:18:54] but,
[02:18:54] uh,
[02:18:54] Kami comes to see Piccolo.
[02:18:56] And he was like,
[02:18:58] Mr.
[02:18:58] Popo kicked me out of the lookout,
[02:18:59] said he had a booty call.
[02:19:01] Last time that happened,
[02:19:02] I came back,
[02:19:03] there were eight corpses.
[02:19:04] He laughed when I said eight.
[02:19:07] That's what he's,
[02:19:09] is that what he's doing,
[02:19:11] Jigs?
[02:19:12] Oh,
[02:19:13] yeah,
[02:19:13] yeah,
[02:19:14] you like it,
[02:19:14] don't you,
[02:19:15] bitch?
[02:19:18] I think Morgan Freeman would have been a suitable,
[02:19:20] uh,
[02:19:20] voice actor for Popo.
[02:19:23] Yeah.
[02:19:23] Kami,
[02:19:25] you want some cereal?
[02:19:29] You never know,
[02:19:30] there might be a live action one day.
[02:19:33] Oh,
[02:19:33] and how they turned the Garley Jr.
[02:19:35] saga on its head is fucking priceless.
[02:19:37] We are rambling beyond rambling.
[02:19:40] What about Dragon Ball?
[02:19:42] I don't care what anyone says.
[02:19:44] I know people will listen to Team Four Star Rants.
[02:19:48] They will do it.
[02:19:49] They absolutely will.
[02:19:51] I'm going to go potty.
[02:19:52] I'll be back.
[02:19:54] He's going to work that off.
[02:19:58] See?
[02:20:05] Very,
[02:20:05] very old American dad reference.
[02:20:09] I don't care.
[02:20:10] I don't care what anyone says,
[02:20:11] though.
[02:20:11] People are like hating on it because it's a GT ripoff.
[02:20:15] I'm excited for Dima.
[02:20:16] Like,
[02:20:16] I'm very excited for Dima.
[02:20:19] I think people are too hung up on the fact that he is turned into a kid.
[02:20:24] Like,
[02:20:24] there's enough.
[02:20:26] I don't think people are giving it enough credit for the fact that Akira Toriyama is writing it.
[02:20:31] Like,
[02:20:31] that is a big fucking deal.
[02:20:33] Well,
[02:20:33] and not only do they have to just look at it.
[02:20:39] I'm just saying they're scarred.
[02:20:41] I mean,
[02:20:43] the thing is,
[02:20:44] the thing is,
[02:20:45] he didn't write super.
[02:20:47] He,
[02:20:47] he consulted on it.
[02:20:48] He gave,
[02:20:49] he gave like writing,
[02:20:50] he gave ideas for it,
[02:20:51] but he didn't write it.
[02:20:52] Like,
[02:20:53] this is the first thing since superhero that he's written.
[02:20:56] He did,
[02:20:57] he did write the manga,
[02:20:58] correct?
[02:20:59] I'm not mistaken.
[02:21:00] Uh,
[02:21:01] obviously,
[02:21:01] obviously before he died,
[02:21:02] but,
[02:21:03] uh,
[02:21:03] same,
[02:21:04] same deal as the anime.
[02:21:05] He just gave story notes.
[02:21:07] So he gave notes and ideas and he would basically,
[02:21:09] he would send an outline and then Toritaru would,
[02:21:12] would turn that outline into the manga.
[02:21:14] I gotcha.
[02:21:15] Yeah.
[02:21:15] Cause the,
[02:21:16] the manga volumes do say story by Akira Toriyama and art by Toritaru.
[02:21:20] Yeah.
[02:21:20] Yeah.
[02:21:20] So he,
[02:21:21] he didn't,
[02:21:22] he didn't directly write it,
[02:21:23] but he would give them an outline.
[02:21:25] He would basically be like,
[02:21:26] I want you to do this idea,
[02:21:28] do this idea.
[02:21:28] And then they would do it.
[02:21:29] That's kind of how it worked for,
[02:21:31] to my understanding anyway,
[02:21:32] if I'm,
[02:21:33] if I understand correctly.
[02:21:35] Yeah.
[02:21:35] But yeah,
[02:21:35] he wasn't like,
[02:21:36] he didn't like write it.
[02:21:37] Like he did dragon ball Z and you can tell,
[02:21:39] you can absolutely tell when dragon ball is not written by Akira Toriyama.
[02:21:43] Especially when you watch all of it,
[02:21:46] all at once,
[02:21:47] like all,
[02:21:49] what would it air?
[02:21:49] Say 270 episodes.
[02:21:51] How many episodes are?
[02:21:52] 290 something.
[02:21:53] I don't know.
[02:21:55] I can't remember.
[02:21:55] I watched,
[02:21:56] I watched,
[02:21:56] yeah,
[02:21:57] I watched all of it on succession.
[02:21:58] Dragon ball dragon.
[02:21:59] And it's very interesting when you watch it all in one big chunk.
[02:22:03] It does.
[02:22:03] The thing that I appreciated.
[02:22:04] It does.
[02:22:05] It hits way different.
[02:22:06] Like when,
[02:22:07] when,
[02:22:08] uh,
[02:22:08] young chat,
[02:22:09] TN,
[02:22:10] Chiaotzu,
[02:22:11] uh,
[02:22:11] get killed.
[02:22:12] Piccolo get killed by Raditz.
[02:22:15] That hits different when you've watched all of dragon ball before it,
[02:22:18] because that's the entire cast just got killed.
[02:22:22] And you don't know that they're coming back.
[02:22:24] Like,
[02:22:24] you don't know you assume,
[02:22:26] but you don't know.
[02:22:27] Well,
[02:22:27] but yeah,
[02:22:28] your first instinct.
[02:22:30] Yeah.
[02:22:30] Your first instinct though,
[02:22:31] if you,
[02:22:32] if you watched a dragon ball though,
[02:22:33] your first instinct is,
[02:22:34] Oh,
[02:22:35] curling and chiaotzu can't come back.
[02:22:37] Exactly.
[02:22:38] Cause they make that,
[02:22:38] they make that clear.
[02:22:40] Yeah.
[02:22:40] It's,
[02:22:41] it's,
[02:22:41] it's a much,
[02:22:42] it's a much more brutal scene,
[02:22:43] but fortunately we have some namekian MacGuffins to come,
[02:22:47] come save the day.
[02:22:48] They invented something.
[02:22:49] Namekian MacGuffins certainly,
[02:22:51] but yeah,
[02:22:52] yeah,
[02:22:53] it definitely hits.
[02:22:54] Also,
[02:22:55] I will forever defend Yamcha.
[02:22:57] He did not get beaten by Cybermen.
[02:22:59] That's,
[02:23:00] that pisses me off to this day.
[02:23:01] Oh,
[02:23:01] that was a cheap shot.
[02:23:03] He beat the fucking Cybermen and inside the Cybermen cheap shots him.
[02:23:07] And his,
[02:23:08] his image will forever be associated with that image of him in the fucking crater.
[02:23:11] Well,
[02:23:12] yes,
[02:23:12] but,
[02:23:13] but,
[02:23:13] but did Tien,
[02:23:14] but did Tien cheap shot him when he broke his leg?
[02:23:20] I mean,
[02:23:20] cause technically,
[02:23:22] is that against the,
[02:23:23] no,
[02:23:23] that's not against the rules.
[02:23:24] It's not against the rules.
[02:23:25] Dragon ball,
[02:23:26] you mean?
[02:23:26] Yeah.
[02:23:26] And the original dragon ball,
[02:23:28] he broke just like,
[02:23:29] did he?
[02:23:30] Yep.
[02:23:31] Okay.
[02:23:31] It's been a minute.
[02:23:32] That was back when he was a dick.
[02:23:33] Like that was when Yamcha,
[02:23:35] when Tien was a bad guy,
[02:23:36] right?
[02:23:36] Yeah.
[02:23:37] That's one thing that makes Frieza different.
[02:23:39] He's the one,
[02:23:40] I mean,
[02:23:41] they did work together,
[02:23:42] but he's still pretty thoroughly is evil and hates Goku.
[02:23:45] Um,
[02:23:46] I don't,
[02:23:46] I don't,
[02:23:47] I don't think so.
[02:23:47] I'm still going to be evil.
[02:23:48] I don't think so.
[02:23:49] I don't think so.
[02:23:49] I don't think so.
[02:23:50] I don't think so.
[02:23:52] but like not in the way that like Tien or Piccolo did.
[02:23:54] Yeah.
[02:23:54] Yeah.
[02:23:54] That's what I mean.
[02:23:55] Yeah.
[02:23:56] Hey guys,
[02:23:56] I got to go.
[02:23:57] I got to jump off.
[02:23:58] I was going to say,
[02:23:59] yeah,
[02:23:59] I was going to say,
[02:24:00] I need to wrap it up too.
[02:24:01] Cause unfortunately I got to go to sleep soon.
[02:24:04] So we might as well just might as well GT wrap this bad boy up.
[02:24:09] Thanks for popping in Sosa.
[02:24:11] Thanks for having me.
[02:24:11] I'll see you buddy.
[02:24:13] Nice to meet you man.
[02:24:15] Yeah.
[02:24:15] Pleasure.
[02:24:16] Yep.
[02:24:16] I'll see you around.
[02:24:17] See ya.
[02:24:19] Well,
[02:24:20] hopefully everybody enjoyed this more lighthearted and fun episode,
[02:24:24] much like hopefully Diamond will be of the average intelligence podcast.
[02:24:28] And don't forget next week to get your Dragon Ball candles from our friends at Stevie Wicks.
[02:24:35] I do know that you will be able to get individuals or the set of seven for a special deal.
[02:24:42] So I'm not saying if you,
[02:24:44] if you like them all at the same time and they're grouped together,
[02:24:48] I'm not saying a dragon will appear,
[02:24:51] but I'm not saying one won't.
[02:24:54] I'm saying it will.
[02:24:55] That's the spur of the moment guarantee is a Shenron will appear.
[02:24:58] You should buy all of them.
[02:25:00] Hey,
[02:25:00] Goku junior,
[02:25:01] junior,
[02:25:01] junior,
[02:25:01] junior,
[02:25:02] junior,
[02:25:02] junior,
[02:25:03] junior,
[02:25:03] junior,
[02:25:03] junior,
[02:25:03] junior.
[02:25:04] He just had the four star ball and he kind of got a wish granted.
[02:25:07] Remember?
[02:25:09] GT.
[02:25:11] No,
[02:25:11] no,
[02:25:11] no.
[02:25:11] What was the GT?
[02:25:13] It was a special.
[02:25:14] Yeah,
[02:25:15] it was a special GT special.
[02:25:17] Is that piccolo pumpkin spice?
[02:25:24] No,
[02:25:24] orange piccolo spice.
[02:25:26] Orange piccolo spice.
[02:25:29] Alrighty.
[02:25:30] Well,
[02:25:31] everybody,
[02:25:32] thank you for enjoying this,
[02:25:33] this episode.
[02:25:34] Hopefully you're a little bit less average and a little bit more intelligent.
[02:25:36] Probably not,
[02:25:37] but you know,
[02:25:38] we can,
[02:25:38] we can aim,
[02:25:39] we can aim high and hit low.
[02:25:42] That's generally what happens here,
[02:25:45] but we'll see you guys next week.
[02:25:47] Have a go.
[02:25:47] Don't worry.
[02:25:48] Next week's episode is going to be nice and boring.
[02:25:50] So yeah,
[02:25:52] actually,
[02:25:52] Eric,
[02:25:52] I thought of a way to make it a little bit more fun though.
[02:25:54] We'll make a little game out of it.
[02:25:56] So,
[02:25:57] Hey,
[02:25:57] appreciate the sub Xbox gamer.
[02:26:00] Yes.
[02:26:00] Thank you,
[02:26:01] sir.
[02:26:01] Thanks for coming on Justin,
[02:26:02] especially short,
[02:26:03] such short notice.
[02:26:04] I was like,
[02:26:05] wait,
[02:26:05] why the fuck didn't I invite Justin?
[02:26:07] I was,
[02:26:08] I was,
[02:26:08] I was waiting for it.
[02:26:09] I'm like,
[02:26:10] I'm like,
[02:26:10] he's going to,
[02:26:10] he's going to ask me.
[02:26:11] I could,
[02:26:11] I just know it.
[02:26:13] I just know it.
[02:26:14] This was all random in my doing.
[02:26:15] I was just like,
[02:26:16] Hey,
[02:26:16] but I was like,
[02:26:19] Don Harris passed.
[02:26:20] I was like,
[02:26:20] let's,
[02:26:21] let's talk dragon ball.
[02:26:22] Yeah.
[02:26:23] I like dragon ball.
[02:26:24] It's coming.
[02:26:25] Dragon ball always does good.
[02:26:27] Actually,
[02:26:27] to be fair,
[02:26:28] we didn't decide that until earlier today.
[02:26:30] And I was like,
[02:26:30] yeah,
[02:26:30] that's better than my idea.
[02:26:32] All right.
[02:26:33] I keep D row in the end.
[02:26:34] Goodbye,
[02:26:35] everybody.
[02:26:35] Bye.

