The VP Debate Reactions

[00:00:00] Let's do it. That's what they said last night at the debate that said let's do it

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[00:00:35] Stephen, I haven't seen we haven't seen him in a while

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[00:00:44] No, we haven't seen you in a while

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[00:00:59] One of our one of our most beloved faithful followers. Thank you for joining us tonight Stephen from the spider-man shorts. Yep

[00:01:07] Yep, that's where that's where we snagged them

[00:01:11] It's like I keep telling the Republicans you got to get them while they're young

[00:01:15] Man that that's those spider-man shorts. They really they really blew up our channel when he says oh yay politics

[00:01:21] Yeah, honestly dude, I'm so burnout on politics. I like you can ask Jake

[00:01:26] I have literally almost nonexistent like I still know things but I just I'm over it

[00:01:33] I am and I'm not at the same time. I'm very frustrated

[00:01:36] That's where I'm at because it's like to me

[00:01:39] But and this this goes for both sides. I am sick of all the lies and like this

[00:01:46] Frustrated because because this shit is verifiable

[00:01:51] All it's a literal five to ten second Google search. They're eating the dogs

[00:01:57] the cats

[00:01:59] Have you heard that?

[00:02:00] Yeah, I'm not so sure on that one like

[00:02:04] Then literally even what's the space? How do I get that? Okay?

[00:02:09] Even what's his face JD Vance? He said that

[00:02:12] He's like what was it him who said that or was it Trump and he's like that's just what the residents are telling

[00:02:18] Trump said it during the debate, but I'm referring to the like tick-tock remix

[00:02:23] The they're eating the dogs eating the cats eat the cat

[00:02:29] No, you haven't see all it's it's hilarious

[00:02:32] You've probably sent it to me

[00:02:33] But like half the time like you know what as a matter of fact

[00:02:36] I don't I don't think I did because I would have assumed you'd seen it

[00:02:40] But anyway, um that was the that was the best part of the debate right there was the aftermath

[00:02:46] Yeah, exactly. He's like how haven't you seen that? I'll you can find it, but anyway

[00:02:52] Grown up before our eyes man

[00:02:54] About to turn you into a well, I don't know. I don't know where your political leanings lie Steven

[00:02:58] I would wager to guess based on your age, which I'm not going to disclose

[00:03:03] Based on your age, I would say you don't have many

[00:03:06] That might be an assumption though, so

[00:03:09] But yes, I'll tell you what I'll tell you what Bobby. I'll tell you what Bobby

[00:03:17] everyone's there

[00:03:22] Okay, so I'll tell you what Bobby everyone's political opinion is worth hearing but those dirty Democrats don't need to be here

[00:03:30] Like that's the thing everybody see listen like yeah, we talk on here whatnot

[00:03:35] And we think we have nuance views but for the most part I do but

[00:03:41] All the same. Oh, what am I only the names will change this is by wonder water only 10 calories

[00:03:48] He's by

[00:03:50] Technically the monkeys by

[00:03:53] Oh, yeah

[00:03:55] Now below average intelligence

[00:04:00] I know it's trying to come up with the new bad ass intelligence

[00:04:06] All right, so the debate kicked off I before we really dig into it

[00:04:10] I will say this much there was a point during the debate where honestly

[00:04:13] it like you were saying in our text thread that you found it kind of boring and

[00:04:19] My sentiment was yeah

[00:04:22] exactly

[00:04:24] There was literally a point during this debate where I was watching and I was like wow

[00:04:29] Can we get these two to run for president instead of Trump and Kamala?

[00:04:34] No, JD Vance doesn't have the uh

[00:04:37] He doesn't have the teeth yet like for it like he's all right fair enough fair enough

[00:04:42] And I'm strictly talking about the debate

[00:04:44] This was much more akin to the sort of debates that were used to historically

[00:04:50] free Trump

[00:04:52] And honestly it was kind of a nice change of pace. However now we're used to the

[00:04:57] We're used to the Trump debates. So this seems this seemed pretty I'm shocked at how many people said this debate was boring

[00:05:03] When it was actually quite a good debate

[00:05:06] What?

[00:05:07] Yeah, but tim wall's he said a lot of things, but they had like no sustenance behind them

[00:05:12] I was like and fair enough fair enough and we're gonna get into that

[00:05:16] And what is it with JD Vance's eyes that dude has some dark eyelashes like no, dude

[00:05:21] I'm convinced he wears eyeliner and we know a lot of people do apparently he went through an emo phase

[00:05:26] So maybe that tracks. I don't know. But yeah JD Vance JD does look like I mean, hey listen

[00:05:31] Listen, I don't really care. You know, it doesn't bother me

[00:05:34] I just I just think it's funny that he's got such dark eyes because he literally

[00:05:37] He looks like he's about to go sing for my chemical romance or something

[00:05:42] Tonight will be the night that you will vote for me

[00:05:48] Over and again

[00:05:50] Please don't change your mind

[00:05:55] Yeah, he's talking talking to trump don't change your mind on me

[00:06:04] Because I will never be VP like you did Mike Pence

[00:06:09] No, see I I I think that's a like VP is either smooth sailing or it destroys you like Pence

[00:06:17] I mean basically yeah, and it kind of has more to do with the president than the vice president

[00:06:22] But anyway regardless so

[00:06:25] The debate started with israel, which I actually thought was

[00:06:29] I mean the reason why was kind of obvious considering what happened the day before

[00:06:32] But I thought it was a good place to start. Um, I would like to point out that walls

[00:06:39] Yes

[00:06:42] Yes

[00:06:42] There's so four left

[00:06:45] Okay, go eat some

[00:06:47] Hey, fine. Yeah

[00:06:50] Um

[00:06:51] I I thought walls start you

[00:06:54] I'm online. I don't care. Hey, Steven. This is why I can't be around

[00:06:59] stir-cookers

[00:07:01] No, uh, we went to max and ermas tonight for dinner because normally they have all you can eat wings on wednesday

[00:07:07] And they don't have it anymore

[00:07:08] Well because of that because of that biden inflation biden inflation

[00:07:13] Mm-hmm, and it was only 15 bucks dude. It was such a good deal. Oh

[00:07:17] Or all you can eat. I don't even remember

[00:07:20] I can't remember the last time I went to a max and eras, but you just reminded me

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[00:07:36] Like I said, we started

[00:07:38] What'd she say?

[00:07:39] I don't know. Oh

[00:07:41] But uh, we started with israel and walls thought he like cleverly sidestepped the question to shit on trump

[00:07:48] But it was so clumsy because he was asked a direct question. He was like, I'm not gonna talk about that

[00:07:54] I'm gonna talk about how much donald trump sucks

[00:07:59] Oh, how did you how can you do politics for an hour? That's pretty sad

[00:08:06] Now see honestly see listen, he's getting older and wiser. He's already on to us

[00:08:14] No, the thing of it is though the older you get the more you do care about politics because the more this crap affects your daily life

[00:08:22] Yeah, because honestly the reason we are in the situation we're in is it's not because of us

[00:08:27] It's actually because our parents and they're in action

[00:08:30] Because they were too busy like I hate to say it just live in their lives and think and everything wasn't getting

[00:08:35] changed, but

[00:08:37] It literally started to derail

[00:08:39] Under their watch and it got bad and worse and worse and worse and they just still didn't pay attention

[00:08:44] They were still living in the 60s free love and fun and they didn't realize they were being taken advantage of and rules being changed

[00:08:51] Yeah, it was all of me. It wasn't just one

[00:08:56] It's a beautiful mind moment

[00:08:58] Yeah, but the reason waltz did that though is because I mean let's face facts

[00:09:02] The biden and harris administration can't defend biden or harris on israel they they can't it's demonstrably untrue to say that they

[00:09:11] Support israel strongly like yeah, they're sending them arms, but that's congress mostly and the biden administration has

[00:09:17] On multiple occasions tried to withhold

[00:09:20] Uh the sending of weapons and aid to israel on at least twice that I can think of

[00:09:27] You know so

[00:09:29] and then uh

[00:09:31] Now vance did this too where he kind of swiveled to talk about himself

[00:09:35] Which I hate it when politicians do this at the beginning of a debate. They're asked a straightforward question

[00:09:39] They're like well first. I'd like to thank an opportunity

[00:09:42] I'd like to take an opportunity to thank everybody for this debate. Thank you. Thank you

[00:09:45] I was actually getting ready to bring that up

[00:09:47] I was you know, that's that's i'm glad you're saying this because the thing is I knew we would disagree on this because

[00:09:53] No, no not the intro but um like I was I was gonna ask you when he answered questions

[00:09:58] When he said that like oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna get to that

[00:10:01] But then he goes into something else

[00:10:03] But well he did answer the question in the end and I give credit for that and actually it's funny because I wrote down

[00:10:09] Vance swiveled to talk about himself and little eye roll symbol that I made

[00:10:13] um

[00:10:14] But then I had to write again. I said but he answered the question so

[00:10:19] Point stood vance for that

[00:10:21] I didn't know he was uh, you know

[00:10:23] He was raised by single mother and whatnot and he actually kind of like

[00:10:27] You know mostly

[00:10:30] Yeah, mostly grandmother his grandmother. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying

[00:10:34] I'm like dude and you know with with how successful he became and like I literally had no idea who he was

[00:10:39] Apparently he's been pretty prominent for the last several years, but yeah, I'd heard is I'd heard his name is passing

[00:10:44] This is what's frustrating about the trump vance ticket is both of them have really really

[00:10:50] Good points that they almost never hit

[00:10:53] Like the fact that jade vance is literally the embodiment of the american dream come true

[00:10:59] I mean literally the embodiment of it came from poverty came from

[00:11:03] Bad and broken home

[00:11:07] Oopsy is even

[00:11:09] um, yeah study hard

[00:11:11] But um, yeah, you don't it

[00:11:14] Literally, I mean granted through the military, but he joined the military and then ended up was at harvard or Yale

[00:11:20] I think it was Yale wasn't it Yale law school?

[00:11:23] It was one of them. I can't remember off top of my head, but into law school at an ivy league

[00:11:28] And became a senator and I was running for vice president

[00:11:33] Hey, steven. I don't know what that was that was weird. Sorry

[00:11:36] Love peace and chicken grease

[00:11:39] in that order

[00:11:47] Oh, but then I had I had to poke fun at the moderators because the question was would you

[00:11:52] Support a preemptive strike against Iran Iran and I'm like it wouldn't be a preemptive strike

[00:11:58] Iran has already filed fired missiles into israel twice that is not a preemptive strike

[00:12:02] That is a retaliatory strike at this point. Yeah anything israel does to iran at this point is retaliation because

[00:12:09] Iran has right and i'm not even counting actions through proxies

[00:12:14] I'm talking about direct action from the nation of iran against israel

[00:12:18] This is the second round of ballistic missiles and drones and all that shit. So anything israel does now

[00:12:24] Is retaliation?

[00:12:26] It's not a preemptive strike. It's like everybody's going after israel now

[00:12:30] And I don't know the thing that I've been saying constantly like biblical

[00:12:36] Well, and here's the thing look. I don't want innocent anyone getting killed. I don't I don't want it. However

[00:12:43] Everybody is now like now. Everybody's flying the flag of lebanon, which israel is not at war with lebanon

[00:12:50] Israel is doing military targeted military strikes against hezbollah. There's a difference

[00:12:55] But now everybody's on and they forget the fact that since october 8th of last year

[00:13:01] Hezbollah has fired over 8 000 rockets into northern israel

[00:13:08] It's like they're ignoring it and some of these people are so fucking stupid that they don't even know that

[00:13:15] Which again, google is free

[00:13:19] I mean it's

[00:13:21] I'm just the fact that people were actually condemning israel for grim beeper. Oh my god

[00:13:28] That was great. They were like, oh my god people could have been hurt. I'm like, yeah

[00:13:34] Mostly the terror what happens when you fight

[00:13:37] Well, but my country it's like, yeah, but mostly it was the terrorists the grim beepers. I just got the joke

[00:13:43] Yeah, that's what they've been calling it. That's that's that's funny. I'm like, that's good

[00:13:48] That's pretty good

[00:13:49] I did that's that's pretty that's pretty rough

[00:13:54] Um

[00:13:55] And at one point oh because at some point iran was brought up

[00:13:59] Again at jd jd said that you know and rightfully talking about how the biden harris administration

[00:14:06] Literally gave iran billions of dollars

[00:14:09] And then walls is like

[00:14:11] You know

[00:14:13] They've never been closer to a bomb a nuclear bomb than ever and jd's like yeah, and who's the vice president

[00:14:21] But then he thought you know, he accurately pointed out that thanks to the biden harris administration

[00:14:26] Uh iran got a shit ton of money and guess what they used it for

[00:14:32] Imagine that when you give a massive

[00:14:35] And when you give a state that has massively supported terrorism over the years a shit ton of money

[00:14:40] Guess what they're gonna use it for

[00:14:43] Those are rookie numbers. They got a got a pump of my numbers up

[00:14:47] Um, I put in the israel exchange vance won it

[00:14:50] I mean walls was destroyed in this segment

[00:14:54] easily

[00:14:57] I don't know that there was a single segment

[00:14:59] Where walls actually decisively won the debate

[00:15:03] There were a couple. I would say at best they tied vance

[00:15:06] I mean and here's the thing. I know everybody's gonna say because i'm a republican

[00:15:09] I don't actually like jd vance all that much

[00:15:13] I don't know. There's something about him that I just I I

[00:15:16] I don't really care for him. However, he's good

[00:15:20] And I could admit that he's good

[00:15:23] He says some weird shit every now and again, but what politician doesn't I've heard tim wall say some goofy shit too

[00:15:30] Yeah, and don't even get me started on kamala harris

[00:15:37] It's like

[00:15:39] I mean kamala harris speaking

[00:15:42] Unscripted is literally like when you're given an assignment a writing assignment you have to get a certain word count

[00:15:46] So you start

[00:15:48] Inflating and using circular language. That is literally what kamala harris sounds like it sounds like she's trying to bump up the word count

[00:15:54] You literally use a talk to or you know the the middle button for the random words on your text bar

[00:16:00] And you're just doing this and you just write a whole paragraph about it. Like yeah, they are this that we

[00:16:04] So actually here's here's the funny thing. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a kamala harris speech

[00:16:12] So the prompt is with is with israel in charge and

[00:16:19] I have to say

[00:16:22] I think

[00:16:24] He has the most important thing

[00:16:28] to say

[00:16:29] To him that he's a good man

[00:16:34] To work for him. I don't

[00:16:39] Know if he's a bad person

[00:16:43] to talk about

[00:16:44] That way, I think he could just say something and I think he's got

[00:16:55] To do it for me

[00:17:01] That is a that is a kamala harris speech

[00:17:04] answer to a question given to you by the

[00:17:07] Random word in the iphone and the fact

[00:17:11] That that's not terrible. That's not terribly far off though. It's not

[00:17:18] Um, you know when I was growing up in dubeye. No wait a minute. No

[00:17:22] Oh, no, I love says random shit. I know I love the fact that now it's become a meme when people are like

[00:17:28] Listen, why do you owe so much on your taxes or why didn't you get this done at your job?

[00:17:32] And it's like well, listen, I was raised in a middle-class family

[00:17:37] I mean, it's become a meme and there's a reason it's become a meme because no one fucking believes you

[00:17:47] Anything else on the israel segment before I move on to the hurricane

[00:17:51] No, sure move on we moved on to the hurricane

[00:17:56] And the moderators immediately made the hurricane about climate change

[00:18:00] I mean immediately from the outset and I'm just like gee wonder what side you're on

[00:18:05] Here's the thing people again. Google is free go back and look at the severity of hurricanes since 1970 to today

[00:18:12] You will not see a direct upward trend

[00:18:15] There are some peaks, but there are some peaks that go back into the 80s that are higher than most of the modern hurricanes

[00:18:22] Oh, they know that handful. Yeah, you can look it up. It's they've been studying the ship for years

[00:18:26] And think I think I mean this is the thing. I'm not a meteorologist

[00:18:30] So again, if I'm if I'm wrong correct me think about what causes a hurricane

[00:18:35] What the fuck would the warming of the planet have to do with how a hurricane is formed?

[00:18:44] the answer

[00:18:46] Not shit nothing

[00:18:49] Or at least very very little

[00:18:52] I will concede maybe maybe there's a minuscule

[00:18:55] Thing but I would think of the planet's getting warmer. It would actually cause hurricanes to become less strong

[00:19:02] But I again not a meteorologist, but

[00:19:07] I don't know but I have watched the news before

[00:19:12] Yes, and I did do the news once without wearing no pants

[00:19:17] Um

[00:19:19] So dangling

[00:19:20] so walls again brings up the inflation reduction act uh growing jobs when

[00:19:25] Literally last month they were called out for having eight was 800,000 fewer jobs and they claimed

[00:19:34] So I

[00:19:35] I think so

[00:19:37] It was something that i'm trying to pull my shit. They got called out basically for having under

[00:19:45] For not lying but having wrong numbers or maybe they lied. I don't know they probably did

[00:19:50] Oh, yeah, absolutely

[00:19:52] So then he said something that's really so here's the thing though. This this is

[00:19:56] A tactic politicians love to use wall said something that is technically not a lie

[00:20:02] but

[00:20:03] It's kind of a lie because it doesn't mean what everyone thinks it means

[00:20:07] So he said that they were producing more oil and natural gas

[00:20:11] Now than ever before

[00:20:13] Technically that is true. However, if you watched our debate fact check episode I went over this

[00:20:18] And yes because they are adding their numbers onto the previous production that's already going on

[00:20:25] But if you look at the rate of growth

[00:20:27] The bain-haires administration is in the negative in terms of the growth trend

[00:20:34] So weird well, I mean the thing is like it's technically true

[00:20:37] But that would also be technically true if they opened up one more well

[00:20:41] Then had been established under trump

[00:20:44] Technically speaking they would be producing more oil and natural gas than the previous administration, but

[00:20:49] The growth doesn't show there

[00:20:52] So it's not a lie per se, but it's a very

[00:20:56] It's it's a manipulation of the speech

[00:20:59] Well, isn't that what they're good at?

[00:21:01] Oh, yeah, I mean yeah, and to be fair politicians do this shit all the time

[00:21:04] But the democrats seem to be particularly guilty of it for the past couple of election cycles

[00:21:09] Well, see I feel like they used to be better at it

[00:21:11] But they they're not very good at hiding it anymore because they've been allowed to get away with so much

[00:21:16] So they just did that's why I constantly say the hubris of the left because they literally

[00:21:21] Believe that no one's going to call them out for this shit. And unfortunately nobody in the major media does

[00:21:27] Because if we were fact checking people would have been like well, that's technically true

[00:21:31] Um, it should be noted that and that's the other thing I don't like about fact checking, which is what

[00:21:36] I made sure we didn't just check the literal facts at the end of the day. It's pretty much just third party

[00:21:43] You should all third party. Yeah, you should never ever ever

[00:21:47] Listen to fact checkers from a news network that is interviewing the politicians

[00:21:53] Yeah, especially when the rules were not too fact check and they literally broke their rules

[00:21:57] And I think that I imagine you're gonna get there, but oh, yeah, that might have been

[00:22:02] I don't know that that was that was a shiny moment. It was one of them

[00:22:09] Exactly and he and he did it

[00:22:11] In a very politically savvy and polite way, but he wasn't gonna let him get away with it

[00:22:16] And I liked that then they muted the mics

[00:22:20] Yeah, well for them he got most of what he won down he did he did

[00:22:24] He did and he didn't let them shut him down and I like that

[00:22:27] No, like literally they kept trying to talk and he's just like

[00:22:32] And I like what he said he said no, here's the thing you said you weren't gonna fact check and you did

[00:22:37] And I think it's important to give context to that and I'm like, yes

[00:22:41] It's very important to do that

[00:22:44] We moved on to immigration next and this might be

[00:22:49] I think this is one of those parts of the debate where for republicans vans clearly won for democrats

[00:22:56] Walls clearly won and for independence. We're not happy with either

[00:23:01] Dude, I think so many people are on the fence on this one

[00:23:04] I think the problem that most americans have on both sides is that

[00:23:08] They don't really understand how the law works

[00:23:12] The joke was lost on you

[00:23:14] Oh clearly. What was that?

[00:23:16] I said so many people are on the fence

[00:23:21] That was a that was a poor joke

[00:23:23] No, no, I just flew right over my head. So here's the thing

[00:23:26] Anyway, I keep I keep bringing this up with regards to trump and this is what makes me think that they won't actually do it

[00:23:33] um

[00:23:35] But we keep hearing about the mass deportation policy, right?

[00:23:39] And I have concerns about that because I I fundamentally disagree on a lot of trump's immigration policy in theory

[00:23:45] Not so much in practice

[00:23:47] Because trump said a lot of shit and he ended up not doing

[00:23:52] all of it

[00:23:53] he did a lot of yeah, but mass deportation of

[00:23:57] Illegals that you know broke the laws of our country to get in

[00:24:00] He never said I don't see why we couldn't what did he say?

[00:24:03] He just says largest mass deportation

[00:24:05] But then when everybody and whenever any at least that I've heard whenever anybody asks him to clarify what he means by that

[00:24:10] He doesn't answer

[00:24:12] What what does that mean and how how are you going to do this?

[00:24:16] What's your mechanism for doing this?

[00:24:18] Logistically, how are you gonna do that who's gonna be targeted?

[00:24:20] Will you and I think this was one of the few good questions by the moderators

[00:24:24] Would you deport illegal immigrants who have children that were born in the united states legally and vance did not answer?

[00:24:32] Well, that's hard

[00:24:34] I mean when you go into a country and if you go to another country and break a law

[00:24:37] It doesn't matter if you have kids

[00:24:39] You're gonna go to prison and the kid's gonna be taken and that's easy to say in a vacuum though

[00:24:43] But that's but again, that's what i'm saying and then plus and here's the most important part

[00:24:48] What is the trump administration's definition of illegal?

[00:24:54] Someone who broke the law

[00:24:55] But what law does that include an asylum seeker our border law?

[00:25:00] Asylum has to go through the port of entry if you hop the fence you're immediately a criminal

[00:25:03] Okay, fair enough. But what about somebody who applies for asylum once they're across the border because that can't happen

[00:25:09] Under the current law. It's a lot. I okay. So here's my I don't think that should be allowed

[00:25:13] But here's the thing you say someone who hopped the fence and then applied for asylum. Yeah, that should be allowed

[00:25:19] I I agree. But that that is the law their line jumpers. But that is the law as of today

[00:25:25] Yeah, I don't agree with that. I I didn't know that yeah

[00:25:29] Well, unfortunately, you can't retroactively apply a law

[00:25:32] in that way so

[00:25:34] And and this is why it's complicated

[00:25:36] So some people i'm not saying all because this is this is so frustratingly a case by case basis

[00:25:41] Some people are improperly told by the cartels or other people that help them cross illegally

[00:25:47] That this is the way you do it and then they get here

[00:25:50] And then they don't realize they broke the law and then once they do they're too scared to

[00:25:54] Seek a lawful entry point because now they're afraid they'll just get deported

[00:26:00] So the biden administration, I think their hearts were in the right place

[00:26:03] They just didn't think about it is they have an app and jd brought it up where you can apply for asylum right through the app

[00:26:12] I mean

[00:26:13] Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry not not asylum. I'm sorry temporary protective status

[00:26:17] Which again is is the law though, but what I don't like about us immigration policy is

[00:26:24] Temporary protective status is only 18 months and it has to be approved and it takes time to be approved

[00:26:29] So I think I think we're trying to be humanitarian too much and we can't afford it

[00:26:34] Well, but here's my thing and this is actually why i'm kind of leaning back towards the libertarian part breaking the law asshole

[00:26:41] We'll change the law

[00:26:43] Because to me it doesn't make any sense why somebody can't come to a port of entry

[00:26:48] Verify their identity

[00:26:50] Get proper credentials to work and all that shit. This is something that should take days not years that right there

[00:26:58] Absolutely, but it doesn't work that way

[00:27:00] Well, but my question is good, isn't it? That's what i'm saying. Why does they don't want it to?

[00:27:06] Exactly and that's the problem and the people that pay for it

[00:27:10] Are the americans and the immigrants that come here. Those are the people that pay for it

[00:27:15] I know people that are in limbo literal limbo in the immigration system right now and they came here legally

[00:27:21] You know, i'm not trying to say anything and I my heart goes out to them, but

[00:27:26] If so many are coming here, why don't they all just band together?

[00:27:31] And fix their own because nobody wants to get shot first

[00:27:36] Oh, I mean somebody's got a fight for if you want to bad enough you got a fight for there. They're fighting to come here

[00:27:42] Yeah, it's it's less of a fight to come here

[00:27:45] Coyotes and sex trafficking. It's not very safe to come through the border like you know a lot of people pay

[00:27:50] Uh smugglers and whatnot and some of them don't smuggle here. They just take your money and then put you into

[00:27:58] slavery

[00:27:59] Yeah, I mean that's that does happen. I'm it's all dangerous

[00:28:02] I'm more or less speaking to people who leave and enter through a port of entry a legal port of entry

[00:28:07] But they're still kind of in limbo like asylum seekers are in limbo for years

[00:28:12] That's why uh, they wanted to remain in uh,

[00:28:14] Mexico policy so they're not in limbo and they're not on our dollars like we feel for them

[00:28:19] But we also can't be the humanitarians for the entire planet

[00:28:24] You know, we can't afford it you you were broke

[00:28:25] You see you and I disagree on that because I think we can

[00:28:29] Well, I used to not let me let me rephrase. Let me rephrase

[00:28:32] I tell my groceries went up

[00:28:34] In our current financial in our current financial situation

[00:28:37] We can't but if we change the law and fix the economy

[00:28:41] We absolutely could because here's the thing if you change the immigration law to just let people come here legally

[00:28:46] And work within a reasonable amount of time

[00:28:48] We don't have to support them. They'll go get a job and support themselves

[00:28:52] The problem is a lot of people who come here

[00:28:55] It takes forever to get a fucking work permit. And what do you expect them to do?

[00:29:00] If they can't legally work, they're gonna illegally work. Well, they get ebt cards right off the bat

[00:29:05] Not everywhere, but it does happen like I said, I'll say somebody's seen some uh recent pictures and there's like 16 grand on a card

[00:29:13] We have americans who are literally starving to that it happens

[00:29:17] And you know how you can kill that program by granting a work permit within seven days

[00:29:21] And see your background check comes out that right there. No problem with that

[00:29:26] Zero problem with that that that's the way it should work, but guess what they're not gonna do it. Well and actually I'm

[00:29:33] My libertarian leaning ass over here is like why the fuck do we need a work permit anyway?

[00:29:39] Well if you're a citizen, yes

[00:29:42] I mean no, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if you're not a citizen. Yeah, you need to work permit

[00:29:47] Fuck that. No, if it pleases the crown may I work?

[00:29:49] Fuck you. No, well, you're not a part of this country

[00:29:53] You you weren't invited you came and broke into our country

[00:29:57] I mean to be fair sometimes they are invited and you what what happened in kingdoms back in the day when somebody did that

[00:30:04] They were hung

[00:30:06] That's just not true

[00:30:08] I don't know if it is

[00:30:09] Well moved all the time

[00:30:12] No, I don't okay actually actually you know what broke in

[00:30:16] Actually, you know what I actually take that back there were

[00:30:18] Certain times during in like the feudal system in europe where a peasant farmer would not be legally

[00:30:24] Able to move without the lord's permission to leave and the new lord's permission to come so

[00:30:30] That's why they called those landlords. It's it's crazy. A lot of people don't know that history

[00:30:34] That that that is literally why they called them landlords because they were the lords

[00:30:38] You couldn't move you're stuck. They whatever rent they decided. That's what you had to pay

[00:30:42] And you couldn't do fuck all

[00:30:43] Couldn't do fuck all about it

[00:30:45] But most peasants really didn't they didn't work like a whole like year like they only worked like 180 190 days out of a year

[00:30:53] Yeah, but they also broke their backs every day doing it

[00:30:57] Yeah, but they they were also

[00:30:59] This is this is a fun one of the yeah, there was that you know what the average height was my cat

[00:31:06] Do you know what the average height for an adult male in medieval europe was

[00:31:10] 54 55 it was 54. Yeah

[00:31:12] Yeah, because now it's like what 58 in europe or

[00:31:17] No here. It's like 58 or 59 is our average

[00:31:20] No, but even in the colonial era the average height for males was taller in the us than it was in europe

[00:31:26] What's the average uh in europe now? Do you know?

[00:31:30] I don't know about europe, but in the united states. I think it's

[00:31:33] Isn't it five six? I think

[00:31:36] Five nine

[00:31:37] No, that's not the average

[00:31:39] For males in in the united states right now. Yeah, I believe it's like 58 or 59

[00:31:44] Hang on. Let's look this up average

[00:31:48] Actually

[00:31:49] I'm 100 of five nine

[00:31:52] That seems taller, but for men in usa

[00:31:57] That's six two. So oh no pure year 100 right

[00:32:01] Average height for men in the united states that are 20 years or older is five foot nine inches

[00:32:06] Slightly taller than the global average, which is five foot seven and a half inches

[00:32:11] Yeah, dude. I've noticed that like where some car ganch wins in this country

[00:32:15] That goes back to the fluoride. Actually, you know what it is

[00:32:18] Um, it was it's our it while starting in the colonial era. It was honestly our diet and the wider open spaces

[00:32:25] We ate meat. We ate me and we didn't eat much bread. Well more importantly

[00:32:30] Actually, we did we ate a fuck ton of bread. But we drank a we drank a lot of milk. We drank a lot of milk

[00:32:38] I love milk. It just doesn't love me

[00:32:42] Um

[00:32:44] Oh, we're derailing bad. Yeah, we sure are that's my fault

[00:32:49] Then I loved that um

[00:32:52] Oh and van sproed up asylum fraud and I I want I'm not saying it's not happening

[00:32:56] I want a more defined definition of that term so that we can actually talk about it and not speculate

[00:33:02] Uh, but he masterfully brought up the 320 000 migrant children that are missing that the state department

[00:33:08] Literally fucking lost as a rebuttal the tim walls being like oh, they're the party of family separation

[00:33:14] He was like you 300 000 children you stupid motherfucker

[00:33:22] They're like

[00:33:25] Yeah, like I said a lot of words no meaning

[00:33:30] I was his entire

[00:33:32] Yeah, well I was repeated the talking point that out of everyone in this race

[00:33:36] Kamala Harris is the only one that is prosecuted international gangs. I'm like

[00:33:39] That's one out of four people you do realize this right?

[00:33:43] And she literally held a person in prison and had to release evidence

[00:33:48] Like I don't care if it's not true or not like people say it's not true

[00:33:51] And I'm just like who who do I get a trust who I got a trust

[00:33:54] In order to get the correct answer is the fucker still on death row

[00:33:58] Even after he got his uh

[00:34:00] No, no, no, no, no because he was wait wait. He's still on death row. He's still on death row

[00:34:05] I thought he got off death row. Nope. But he was in prison

[00:34:09] No, no, he was on death row dude. Hold on. I feel it. We had this argument not even last

[00:34:14] Oh, not not an argument because I've been I've been saying that too because Tulsi said it

[00:34:18] You're right. I did look at it. Unfortunately. Unfortunately Tulsi was incorrect

[00:34:22] Now to be fair to be fair

[00:34:24] Amala Harris did keep people in prison because they wanted a wild wildfire prevention labor

[00:34:32] And she did keep her she did keep people in prison longer than they should have been

[00:34:38] Just to help or labor for the state of california. So that is something she did do but the death row case

[00:34:44] Isn't that considered crimes against humanity dude? That's that's that's that's slavery

[00:34:49] Well, there's finest. Well, there's nuance there. So he has no reparations

[00:34:52] No, these were people that were up for early release, but it had to be granted by the state

[00:34:59] Okay

[00:35:00] Yeah, so I mean she did keep people in prison, but it's not like

[00:35:04] They served their entire sentence and were kept in so there's there's like

[00:35:08] You did the gd thing, but we're gonna keep you in for six more months. You don't get that time cut now

[00:35:13] And it's like

[00:35:15] Precisely. Yeah, I don't think you should get a time cut for education anyway. Honestly

[00:35:20] I know I know it's a

[00:35:22] I know they come out, but most of them don't really do much with it

[00:35:25] Well, because I'll be honest. I've known a lot of them. They don't do anything with it

[00:35:29] I mean that you're you're not wrong

[00:35:31] Um, but they're spending their time doing something productive. So that's a good that's a they are bettering themselves and that in and of itself is

[00:35:39] You know, um personally, I think they'd be better off being taught to skill or a trade, but that's just me

[00:35:48] You know, like maybe a work release in one of these manufacturing plants we hear so much about

[00:35:52] Not any go work on the railroad. There you go all day long

[00:35:58] Well, no, that's it back exactly. Yeah

[00:36:01] Make people fear prison again like

[00:36:04] I hate to say it, you know, that's that's actually what I was going to say about uh immigrants, you know

[00:36:10] Take away like if a person is literally they they hop a hop the border and they come in

[00:36:16] They're done. They don't get a chance of an asylum. They're sent back and they they're literally their their faces

[00:36:21] Papp posted everywhere

[00:36:23] See that would be so if if I were negotiating uh immigration reform oval hall, that would be something

[00:36:29] That would not go over well. Well, no, that would be something that that would be something that I would entertain

[00:36:35] as part of the policy but in exchange for making it so

[00:36:39] absurdly easy to legally immigrate here

[00:36:42] That only a fucking idiot would try to do or a criminal would try to do it illegally because there's no point in doing it

[00:36:49] So yeah at that point if if you get caught crossing the border illegally. Yeah, you one strike you're out

[00:36:56] I mean

[00:36:58] It like that's what i'm saying speed

[00:37:00] I hate to say like the speed run everything through

[00:37:02] Make sure it's like quick like do you slide back background checks make them quick and speedy whatnot?

[00:37:07] And if if nothing comes up on them, sorry, we have no information on you. Yeah, you're not trustworthy and part of that is

[00:37:14] We already have it but it needs to be more humane

[00:37:17] We do need some temporary housing but with the goal of it being somebody stays there for maybe a week

[00:37:23] not

[00:37:24] months at a time

[00:37:26] Well, they're waiting because background checks can take time some a lot of times they're pretty well instantaneous

[00:37:31] But when you're talking internationally it might take a couple days

[00:37:34] So you got to have options because you can't just release people into the interior and expect them to come back

[00:37:40] Especially when they can't yeah, so

[00:37:43] And for every place doesn't have to be the ritz carlton, but it doesn't have to be concrete with a fucking fence

[00:37:47] I mean, I think we can find a middle ground here. You know what I mean

[00:37:51] I mean

[00:37:54] Unfortunately, it's probably I would say it's probably cheaper

[00:37:58] That's probably what they're going for because they're not like a hotel that they're literally just a detainment facility

[00:38:04] I'm aware but I we can do that. It is it is a tad inhumane. I get it, but at the same time, you know, like

[00:38:10] What did they come from? Is this better?

[00:38:14] I mean in in some in some cases no

[00:38:18] Well, I know I've I've heard and seen some pretty in any cases. No

[00:38:22] That's also because these guys are overworked. There's no one cleaning the facilities as much, you know, right

[00:38:27] That's more money down on the board reallocate some funds here because we can do this properly

[00:38:32] um, I mean, hello, we we sent or we left how many billions of dollars or worth of uh equipment and uh

[00:38:39] Afghanistan I think we can afford to send some money to the border guys about eight billion

[00:38:44] Yeah, okay, and how much was trump requesting? It was only like what 400 million for the wall

[00:38:49] I don't remember actually and that didn't include that wasn't just yeah

[00:38:53] It was I think it was only 400 million or maybe 400 billion. I thought it was 25 billion

[00:38:57] I can't remember though. I I remember

[00:38:59] Can't remember but I mean what I'm saying is the United States waste payment

[00:39:03] We just waste so much damn money that if we just balance the fucking budget and stop spending like

[00:39:12] I was gonna say stop spending like we're in congress, but

[00:39:15] That is an expression for a reason

[00:39:19] But um congress does not need

[00:39:21] One million dollars in wood blown glasses at an overseas dinner. They can use fucking Dixie cups

[00:39:28] I'm sorry. We've had we've had this conversation before too. They don't even have to use Dixie cups

[00:39:32] You can get glass you can get glass

[00:39:34] Trump is a billionaire and has been a millionaire for most of his life the dude eats mcdonald's

[00:39:40] Oh god, did you see y'all aren't good enough to have million dollar?

[00:39:44] He did it. He did an interview

[00:39:46] He's lost weight

[00:39:48] Well, some of something he was doing an interview and some of the anchor the the person interviewing asked him is like

[00:39:52] You know, what do you do to keep fit and he's like I try I try to eat good

[00:39:56] And she's like she literally she literally said and she's like well you eat a lot of burgers

[00:40:01] She's like good burgers the best burgers

[00:40:05] Not mcdonald's they're not the best burgers by far. I'm just like, okay

[00:40:08] And I'm like i'm laughing at this point, but i'm like this is what people talk about donald

[00:40:13] This is why people call you a liar because that is bullshit. Did he lie? What do you say?

[00:40:20] I try that's true. He better. That's true. He did say I try

[00:40:25] That's what I'm saying like you fail miserably. You gotta pay attention to literally words because they have meaning

[00:40:31] That's he was so full of shit though, but um, oh absolutely. The other thing walls walls

[00:40:37] Walls brought up the border bill that trump allegedly killed again and this has been

[00:40:43] Read the cliff notes for the bill and you'll see why they killed it because it was fucking stupid

[00:40:49] They added so many like stupid shit in it and it was like, yeah, we can't pass this

[00:40:53] Like not only that the the number of illegal crossings in a day that would have had to happen for the president to close the border

[00:41:00] Um, which he can he or she can already do

[00:41:04] Temporarily, but the number went from it was 5000

[00:41:08] And I think the highest in a day we've had was like 2400 don't quote me on that

[00:41:12] But it's not five thousands way higher than the highest day we've ever had

[00:41:18] uh

[00:41:19] I feel like like 12 000 like I feel like I've heard that number somewhere

[00:41:26] Highest border for all singing

[00:41:33] Oh in one day come on day. Yes

[00:41:41] How much did you say?

[00:41:43] The bill was 5000

[00:41:48] See, I don't know it's

[00:41:52] I'll keep looking

[00:41:56] Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because you usually get a total for the year

[00:42:00] So it's kind of I mean the biden administration is on track to reach 10 million in just their term

[00:42:06] That's a lot, but that's a lot

[00:42:08] But that that's one of many things that sucked about this bill because after reading the cliff notes

[00:42:12] I was like, oh that fuck you. No, this is

[00:42:16] um

[00:42:18] And then he was like walls is like well Trump promised to build a wall and I'm like, yeah because the democrats in congress killed it

[00:42:29] Yeah, both and I just my final note on it was both parties repeatedly make this an issue

[00:42:34] That they run on they won't solve it. They don't want to solve it because they each party wants to run on it from a different angle

[00:42:43] If somebody solves a problem, it's no longer

[00:42:46] Something to run on if they fix all the problems. Who the hell are we gonna vote for?

[00:42:52] What what issues would we need? We would literally become

[00:42:56] No damn good

[00:42:58] Yeah, and I blame I blame the world piece. Well, I blame the electorate for this because honestly

[00:43:04] I've seen the american people as a general society and yeah, if we solved all the problems

[00:43:10] We've got the short term memory of a goldfish in this country

[00:43:12] So you could let trump could literally get a second term and solve every problem

[00:43:17] Figure out world peace and they would still not vote for jd vance. They'd be like, well, what has he done?

[00:43:25] It's like fucking serious like well, and I honestly I think that's gonna be the difference between him and pence

[00:43:31] Is because I vance is very outspoken pence like

[00:43:36] I don't know was pence like a preacher or something or

[00:43:39] No, but he was a very religious man. I know he was very religious

[00:43:42] I don't know if he was like a speaker or something but anyway like

[00:43:46] pence likes

[00:43:47] He was just I don't know dude like

[00:43:50] By the way for those of you for those of you watching if you disagree with this

[00:43:54] Put it in the comments. Yeah, absolutely. We're not shy and black check us

[00:43:58] And we're not mean about it either

[00:44:00] Yeah, the only thing I have right here is the notes that I hand wrote so I don't have

[00:44:04] Unless I checked it while I was watching the debate

[00:44:07] Um

[00:44:08] But yeah, then we moved on to the economy

[00:44:10] But before we get into that after all this politics talk it might get you hot

[00:44:14] but one thing we can all agree on

[00:44:17] Is that music matters?

[00:44:20] And if you think i'm wrong there

[00:44:23] I don't think anybody would well

[00:44:25] My good friend dr. Peter's pita pita. The pita dr. Peter no dr. Peter zissa

[00:44:32] classical guitarist music educator as a nonprofit

[00:44:37] For music outreach out in portland, or again and there is I have just a little video to tell you more about it

[00:44:43] And you can check out his

[00:44:45] podcast his new podcast which is premiering tomorrow

[00:44:48] Called classic a musica, but this is a little information about his nonprofit

[00:44:58] CDZ colloquium music is a 501 c3

[00:45:02] non-profit organization

[00:45:05] It is a kind of school of music

[00:45:07] a concert series

[00:45:10] And an agency that promotes the musicians

[00:45:14] dedicated artists and educators

[00:45:17] Who we feature as our performers

[00:45:21] The goal of the colloquium is to bring community together

[00:45:26] through music performance

[00:45:29] These performances vary in musical style from classical to jazz

[00:45:33] And music from different parts of the world

[00:45:36] From india to the middle east

[00:45:39] That'd be like persia and japan

[00:45:42] and china

[00:45:44] The the goal is to also educate us to how music functions

[00:45:51] Not so much as a

[00:45:53] musical universal language

[00:45:56] Because there are differences in the way that these languages of music are expressed

[00:46:02] But to educate us to be able to be more appreciative not only of the music, but the culture it represents

[00:46:12] And by doing this it brings community

[00:46:16] together

[00:46:38] So check it out, especially if you're in the portland oregon area you can check out their concert series

[00:46:42] And on his podcast what he does is he

[00:46:46] Uh interviews musicians that he has in for their concert series and they're actually

[00:46:51] Being not a you know classical musician myself the interviews are still extremely interesting

[00:46:57] And you get to see a performance and hear a performance from the person he's interviewing. So it's pretty cool

[00:47:04] Then you play trumpet

[00:47:05] I started with trumpet and then I moved to tuba my last year i was in band

[00:47:10] Oh, okay

[00:47:10] So it's like it's really frustrating because I can read music, but I i'm not a talented musician by any stretch of the imagination

[00:47:18] I I can't read music. I don't know what keys are like I've tried to learn this stuff and I just I have adhd so bad that

[00:47:26] Like literally anything I get

[00:47:28] Yeah, but it's like

[00:47:29] Man dude, you got to be able to stay in key. That's the hardest part like I don't understand that like

[00:47:34] I don't have control over my voice like all the time

[00:47:37] Sometimes i'm in tune sometimes i'm not a lot of professional musicians don't so

[00:47:43] Absolutely and i'm just saying I've seen some things and i'm just like it gave me a little bit of hope and I was like

[00:47:49] I've seen I just learned a little bit. I think I might get a little something so

[00:47:54] I've seen some things but anyway now we move on to the economy. So to put you back into a bad mood again

[00:48:01] Stay in economy again

[00:48:03] Fucking walls is pretending like trump didn't lower the cost of insulin to those on medicare for 30 to 35 dollars first

[00:48:11] And they never fucking mentioned and trump didn't either

[00:48:15] But they never mentioned that that price tag is only for people on medicare

[00:48:20] They never mentioned that which is a minority

[00:48:24] Wasn't it when trump

[00:48:26] Literally got it lowered for everybody wasn't it or who did he get lowered for only for people on medicare?

[00:48:33] And then what did biden do was it for everybody or just only on medicare only on medicare

[00:48:37] I mean, see the thing is that's kind of fair because it's a government ran and the privatized ones

[00:48:44] Well, you can't you can't set a price control for the private sector. You can only negotiate it for medicare

[00:48:49] That's exactly. I mean that's that's it and that's all that's where their power lies

[00:48:54] Yeah, and the trick they use is they say for seniors what they mean is seniors on medicare

[00:49:00] That's what they mean

[00:49:02] It's sad too because i'm actually seeing

[00:49:06] Not my grandparents, but grandparents that I know of

[00:49:09] That are very close with and literally they are having to

[00:49:13] Literally move around retirement

[00:49:16] In order to be able to get help. Mm-hmm. It's wrong because the thing is like they're they're paying like

[00:49:23] What is it like 600 a day to be in a institution? You know for to help other people

[00:49:29] Yeah, it's it's something like that. I can't remember but it's like it's like seven or eight grand a month

[00:49:34] But this is why again, I I implore you if you're watching this episode and you haven't watched the fact check

[00:49:39] We did on the trump harris debate

[00:49:41] Go watch it

[00:49:42] But I bring up the fact that I am 100 after doing the math

[00:49:47] I'm 100 about privatizing social security because it was it would be four times as much money in there

[00:49:56] And on top of that it should be it should literally be optional

[00:50:00] Well, no because here's the beauty. Here's the beauty of privatized social security

[00:50:03] So the whole point of social security is that it's the belief that you know

[00:50:08] The average american doesn't have the foresight or discipline to say for their own retirement

[00:50:12] So, oh, you know how you get rid of that?

[00:50:15] You institute social security, but you put it into a private fund that's tied to the stock market

[00:50:20] So if you treated the social security trust like an index fund rather than a trust like they do

[00:50:26] It follows the Dow

[00:50:28] And I didn't I don't remember the numbers offhand, but it's roughly there's like two

[00:50:32] 2.4 trillion to something trillion dollars in the fund now

[00:50:36] And if they had privatized it back when george w bush was talking about it in 2002

[00:50:42] There would be

[00:50:42] almost I think 8.6 trillion dollars

[00:50:46] And that would literally incentivize the the lawmakers and whatnot to literally keep GDP up

[00:50:53] Because literally like just this uh warren buffett literally said he said he could fix the deficit problem in five minutes

[00:51:00] He says anyone who's running for office if their GDP falls under a certain category

[00:51:05] They are not eligible for reelection

[00:51:07] And uh, and he says watch how fast the world would change

[00:51:10] He said watch how fast the country would change and I was like this is a problem

[00:51:13] We have we have stupid laws in place that

[00:51:18] Hang on. Let's see. Let's check. Oh, yeah

[00:51:21] We've we froze there for a moment, but I think we're good now

[00:51:24] Yeah

[00:51:26] Let me check my uh

[00:51:28] Yeah, we're good now youtube something froze somewhere for a second

[00:51:36] Dude, that's the beauty about using zoom

[00:51:40] And obs like you're recording so while it may seem like that to you

[00:51:45] It went through just fine online. I just checked

[00:51:48] boy faked

[00:51:50] Um, so you were saying something about retirement

[00:51:55] I'm lost. Is it gone? I was on a page, but that page is gone now

[00:51:59] Well, no and here's the biggest motherfucker about social security

[00:52:02] So the government does borrow from it and I love how when you read these financial articles

[00:52:07] They're like but the government has always paid it back. Yeah, you know how they pay it back

[00:52:14] Taxes

[00:52:15] So they steal your retirement and then use your taxed income to pay it back

[00:52:22] Fuck you

[00:52:22] And then they want to tax your

[00:52:26] Unrealized gains. They want to tax this and that and you already pay taxes to literally buy things you pay taxes to sell things

[00:52:34] You

[00:52:34] I'm over it 51 percent the average american 51 percent of their income goes to the taxes every single year

[00:52:41] And that's not regardless of tax bracket 51 percent. Yep. So here's the thing you could do. Okay, privatize social security

[00:52:48] And make it so okay. Yeah, you know what?

[00:52:52] I'm cool with sharing the profits to a point with the government

[00:52:56] I'm fine with it. Let them make a little bit of money because everybody's making more money anyway

[00:53:00] But here's the kicker when you privatize it. It's up. Stephen. We're getting real boring now. We're talking about social security

[00:53:07] um

[00:53:08] It okay, so let's say let's say i'm president and uh, they got a bill to privatize social security

[00:53:14] My first caveat is okay

[00:53:17] The government does get a kickback in the interest for that for managing the fund just like you would have had hedge fund manager or broker

[00:53:23] So i'm cool with that. Here's the thing though until the national debt

[00:53:29] Goes below a certain number. We can figure out what it is

[00:53:33] All the interest that the government would be paid goes towards paying off the national debt

[00:53:38] Because god damn it it's to be about time if the government pays some money back instead of the taxpayer

[00:53:44] Yeah, uh, I mean honestly

[00:53:47] I hate to say it like this if if there should be like a consensus consistent

[00:53:54] Can you say the word for me?

[00:53:56] consistent or

[00:53:58] Consensus there we go. Okay. Consensus

[00:54:01] I I couldn't say that word for some reason anyway

[00:54:04] So there should be something taken with and the federal government and seeing how well and how much someone has in their bank

[00:54:10] And i'm not trying to get like invasive but be like hey if you have over this amount just be honest

[00:54:14] It's like this if so, can you live one year without your paycheck?

[00:54:18] Can you yeah, i'm talking to the congress people people in congress. Yeah

[00:54:22] They forego their paint their pay for a year to cut down on that

[00:54:26] It's not gonna it's not gonna make a huge dent that would require unfortunately that would require a constitutional amendment

[00:54:32] I know it's it's ridiculous, but like i'm just i'm just being real with you. I'm just being real. Yeah

[00:54:37] What if they give it up?

[00:54:40] Willingly after they've been paid here you go then then hey i'm all for it because that that's that's an individual making a decision

[00:54:47] But I I just 400 000 from the president. There you go. There's one

[00:54:53] Trump already don't mind

[00:54:55] Yeah, sorry. All right, let's get back to it. So walls walls also brought up the bullshit about the

[00:55:01] most trump tariffs being a 21 sales tax. It's not a fucking sales tax

[00:55:06] Like it depends on what the tariff is on

[00:55:09] And guess what? It's not a sales tax if you don't buy that shit

[00:55:16] And it just there's a myriad of factors went over it in the fact check debate episode if you

[00:55:21] Want you can request that I go into it in the comments or we'll move on or go watch that video

[00:55:27] Um, and then the other note I had is you cannot tax the rich out of the government's current rate of spending you can't

[00:55:34] And that's when you 100 percent 100 percent you could take 100 percent of every rich person's wealth in this country

[00:55:40] And they still would not touch a deficit one day and not just their income their wealth

[00:55:46] Yeah, that's just it because the national debt is over 33 trillion fucking dollars

[00:55:53] Did you hear elan musk is about to hit 1 trillion? Is he?

[00:55:56] good friend. Yeah

[00:55:58] He's essentially going to be the world's first public trillionaire because let's all be honest

[00:56:03] There are already trillionaires and they live in the middle east probably in duba

[00:56:09] There's a family there. Saudi's Saudi's got some money that too

[00:56:12] I was gonna say their families there that like they don't even need disclose and they don't even need to worry about money

[00:56:16] They've got so much oil to sell. Yeah, exactly. Um, so walls also brought up that warden school

[00:56:22] Uh

[00:56:24] Study or not even study. Um, what would you call that?

[00:56:28] I don't know saying that you know, uh trumps

[00:56:32] Economic plan would raise the deficit by five trillion and when I keep pointing out pointed out in the previous video

[00:56:37] I'll point it out again that

[00:56:40] Study by their own admission does not take into account any of the proposed spending cuts

[00:56:47] Under the trump administration under trumps plan

[00:56:50] It doesn't take it assumes the current spending levels of the federal government with inflation

[00:56:56] So it's an incomplete study and unfortunately you can't get more precise because you don't have a crystal ball

[00:57:01] You don't know what's gonna happen

[00:57:02] But it it doesn't give you a complete picture and that's why I fucking hate these studies and these polls because it's always an

[00:57:09] incomplete picture

[00:57:11] And the warden school did say that the average american taxpayer would be better off under the trump plan because of what it does for gdp growth

[00:57:20] So they always leave that part out. So like yes in a vacuum it would raise the deficit

[00:57:24] but

[00:57:26] It would be offset by increase in income

[00:57:32] exactly

[00:57:33] so vance had

[00:57:34] A mic drop moment on the trump record of the economy comparing that and the biden harris administration

[00:57:40] I'm just like see this is what trump needs to do

[00:57:45] He doesn't speak enough on his economy. I mean he does but like not a lot

[00:57:49] Do it effectively and because yes, yes, he just speaks in generalizations

[00:57:53] Whereas vance is like see vance way way way way way way way way way way way way back

[00:57:59] Vance is doing what I said

[00:58:02] that

[00:58:03] Trump should pick ron de santis for

[00:58:06] Way back as a vp running me

[00:58:09] Because so now you're are you okay with vance over uh

[00:58:14] I would have lord boy. I would have preferred ron

[00:58:17] But vance is filling that role so

[00:58:20] Because trump gets out there and say like we had the greatest economy

[00:58:24] It was the greatest. It was the biggest too. I've been just saying, you know, it was big dude ever since de santis literally ended his campaign

[00:58:31] I haven't heard much out of him. No because now he's not a target anymore

[00:58:36] That's true. That's why that's why that's that's why you're not hearing anything

[00:58:41] um

[00:58:41] vance blamed trump for covet again, and it's just like jesus seriously

[00:58:47] Walls, please blame vance. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I said vance walls blame trump for covet again

[00:58:52] Yeah, I heard that I was like dude seriously, man

[00:58:56] Game from china and they said that trump didn't pay taxes. Come through

[00:59:00] I'm sorry that shit was funny. Um, oh hilarious

[00:59:04] Said trump didn't pay taxes again. That's been debunked. That's not true

[00:59:10] So vance had another dry mic drop moment about calling out the experts being wrong and i'm just like damn

[00:59:16] I'm just like, what the hell is wrong?

[00:59:18] Here he is talking about how the experts have always wrong. They make these predictions. They make these statements and they're wrong

[00:59:24] Dude, I will say though like the way he answered the questions were like tactfully

[00:59:29] Like he was very precise and like it almost seemed like I was like, man

[00:59:34] How the hell was he so tuned in like he he defended himself so well without making anyone look stupid

[00:59:39] He made them look stupid without being uh

[00:59:43] Without being a joke about it villainous, you know, yeah, yeah, and the thing is did you know what a thong he was?

[00:59:50] He made them make themselves look stupid. He was flat out relaxed, man

[00:59:56] Whereas walls seemed like he was having conniption fit at times

[00:59:59] Dude, did you see walls? Uh, not his head when uh, he was saying something about the biden harris administration

[01:00:05] And it was like not a good thing and walls just goes like this in agreement

[01:00:09] What are you doing you idiot? Are you listening to him?

[01:00:12] Did you see the moment I forget when it happened?

[01:00:14] But I saw it where vance is looking at walls and then wall said something and then vance just looks at the camera like side-eye

[01:00:21] And i'm just like, oh, shit. It's already a meme by the way

[01:00:25] But he literally just does one of these she just goes

[01:00:29] This is like no email hit when the emo sees you from across the room

[01:00:34] Because I'll be the night they won't vote for you

[01:00:39] No

[01:00:40] It's like your name is going in my suicide note tonight

[01:00:44] So then the final thing I had in the economy is walls brings up

[01:00:49] trumps trade deficit

[01:00:52] And neglects to mention that trumps trade deficit is in fact not the largest in history

[01:00:58] He is followed by george w bush

[01:01:01] and joe biden

[01:01:08] Which I think I don't should have jumped on

[01:01:12] Honestly, I'll be honest vance may not know that because I only learned that when I was fact checking for the uh trump

[01:01:17] amulet debate

[01:01:19] Do you even think george george bush jr. Was even run the country or do you think he was a shell?

[01:01:25] No, he was a shell. I'll be honest though and granted. We're 24

[01:01:29] We're 20 some odd years removed from when he first entered office

[01:01:32] I gotta say looking back on some of his policy prescriptions. I really wish some of them had come to pass

[01:01:38] We're not let's forget about yeah bush w

[01:01:41] Let's let's please don't make me do stuff

[01:01:45] No, I want to be nickin

[01:01:49] Let's let's forget about no child left behind because that was a goddamn catastrophe

[01:01:52] But like privatization of self security is probably my favorite one and I already talked about that

[01:01:58] Um, next we had I thought this was an odd topic that the modernity has brought up qualifications

[01:02:03] This felt like this only existed so they could shit on trump

[01:02:11] I can see that

[01:02:12] And then I loved this one because they said the moderator said with a straight face that

[01:02:16] You know for a long time the vice president is often the last voice heard and I'm like since fucking when

[01:02:24] When seriously when

[01:02:26] The vp is kind of a joke

[01:02:28] For their lack of doing it. Oh, this is because kamala harris is the last one in the room and they want a chance to talk good about her

[01:02:35] That's exactly what this was i'm convinced because it's like literally since when has the vice president been referred to as the last voice

[01:02:43] Fucking seriously. It's so bizarre how they literally just planted her there and it worked

[01:02:49] And and no one's batting. I mean everyone's batting an eye, but like

[01:02:53] Like nothing's being done about it. I'm just like what the fuck man

[01:02:57] Like there's no way she would have gotten the votes

[01:03:00] This is why alternative media is important though because those are the only people that are calling this out and it's it scares me

[01:03:08] because it's so obvious and

[01:03:11] If this had happened in reverse for the republicans

[01:03:14] That's all they would be talking about about how like if the shoe was literally reversed

[01:03:18] They'd be talking about how trump didn't get any primary votes ever

[01:03:20] And yet he's been anointed as the presidential nominee when that's exactly what they're doing with harris

[01:03:27] But because she's a democrat it's okay man

[01:03:29] Can you imagine if the internet wasn't invented if it was just like non-existent?

[01:03:34] Like we never invented it and like we had to rely on everything

[01:03:39] Everyone would just be eating the shit they're fed just like daryl dixon

[01:03:45] Did you watch the walking dead?

[01:03:47] I stopped at around season five

[01:03:51] Okay, i was gonna say i didn't know if you got to everybody always said oh when glenn died

[01:03:55] I was like it was gonna happen. Anyway, it was in the comic. Yeah. Yeah, I was waiting for it get over it

[01:03:59] In fact, i'm so proud because I actually called that when uh, I watched the i did like his character though

[01:04:04] Oh, I did but I said because I knew glenn was gonna die because I know how he dies in the comics

[01:04:08] But I saw what they were setting up and I actually looked at my then wife at the time

[01:04:12] I said he's gonna kill two of them and she was like no and i'm like yeah

[01:04:16] He's gonna kill glenn and abraham

[01:04:18] And then he killed abraham you called that I did

[01:04:21] I wish I could have recorded it because I swear to god I did and then we killed abraham first. I literally went

[01:04:27] fuck

[01:04:29] Dude, I I laughed so hard when his eye popped out because I mean I wasn't like trying to laugh at the situation

[01:04:35] But I was like I knew it was fake and he's just like i'll find you

[01:04:39] And I was like that's creepy dude. Do you have a knack for making shit that shouldn't be funny hilarious like

[01:04:48] I

[01:04:49] All it reminded me of was wedding crashers and like don't ever leave me because I'd find you

[01:04:57] That's exactly what I thought when I saw that part and I was like comedy associations you make

[01:05:05] Because I find you

[01:05:07] This shows creepy. I'll find you maggie. Oh my god. I did enjoy suck my nuts

[01:05:14] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

[01:05:17] Um, did you catch the part where walls is talking about growing up in a small town and he said and I'm proud of that service

[01:05:22] And I'm like the fuck are you talking about?

[01:05:26] Service in a small town

[01:05:28] Was he the town bicycle? No, I'm sure he no he was town motorcycle everybody got a ride and he did all the work

[01:05:34] And if my grandmother had wheels she'd been a bike

[01:05:38] Have you seen that

[01:05:41] Okay, anyway good, but but I know what he was going for because he was

[01:05:45] He's got a rehearsed bit about you know

[01:05:47] Like it is being a teacher in his military service and he says and I'm proud of that

[01:05:51] But then he lapsed it into the whole like growing growing up in a small town bit

[01:05:55] And I'm just like think before you speak maybe but uh

[01:06:00] So walls had walls was and this was good on the moderators for keeping him on the

[01:06:06] Uh, he had he was forced to admit that he

[01:06:09] Misspoke about being at the tnm and square massacre when it happened

[01:06:13] Yeah, I misspoke about being at a massacre. I was there but then I wasn't

[01:06:19] I mean if if I were to give him the benefit of the doubt he was there not when it happened but

[01:06:25] In or around the time frame like within a year

[01:06:29] But that that would kind of be the equivalent of being like well, I was there at january 6 when you were there

[01:06:34] in march, you know

[01:06:36] yeah

[01:06:37] It's like it was there round mark around that time but

[01:06:42] Oh, shit. No the federal government they hear you were there. It doesn't matter when you were there

[01:06:46] They're coming to arrest you did you know?

[01:06:48] There's still people

[01:06:49] In whole on in holding and they haven't like talked to their people what not and like everyone's like trying to get them out

[01:06:55] And they haven't even seen a judge or anything and you can think the patriot act for that

[01:07:01] Like what the fuck they are citizens

[01:07:04] No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because they're charged with terrorism

[01:07:08] That's that's the patriot act and that's yeah, and it's like it's like so so literally we're up to the

[01:07:15] What is terrorism?

[01:07:17] Like is that matt waltz's next movie?

[01:07:20] am I a terrorist

[01:07:22] Shit

[01:07:23] Shut hey matt matt matt you you use this

[01:07:29] remember

[01:07:30] These two

[01:07:31] I don't even like you and you can take it

[01:07:34] Dude just pay off our houses. That's it fair fair fair enough

[01:07:39] Um, I did have a note though, and I don't remember why I wrote this but I did advance can't admit he was

[01:07:44] Oh, I think this is um when he was asked why he supports trump now when he spoke out. No, he said he was wrong

[01:07:50] Oh, I misread my I said vince

[01:07:53] Vince vance can admit he was wrong. Okay that makes sense now

[01:07:57] Because he said he was wrong about donald trump and i'm like, you know what?

[01:08:01] Fair enough because I was too

[01:08:02] Yeah, because he said he apparently uh, they were they were talking about that

[01:08:07] They was like you were supposed to never trump her and apparently like he said that and whatnot

[01:08:10] And I was like I didn't know that about him

[01:08:12] But I was like dude

[01:08:13] I honestly think that anybody would say anything to get on the other side of trump

[01:08:18] Just because it it's only gonna help them

[01:08:21] yeah, like

[01:08:23] For the legacy media. That's it not voters. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true

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[01:09:18] Like the Harris campaign I got you for three minutes of plate

[01:09:22] Three minutes of plate. Oh and actually you should

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[01:09:31] Randy Randy Savage makes uh

[01:09:34] Cameo he comes in and teaches kens and barbie is all about gender equality. He's also quite the singer

[01:09:41] Ah, wait was that that was an outtake wasn't it? Yeah. Oh, yeah

[01:09:46] You can't see it in the gag reel though. Um, so then please don't be scared little lady

[01:09:54] Oh, so this relieved

[01:09:58] That's the greatest word miss ever

[01:10:01] It's it's one of your best

[01:10:03] American pie

[01:10:05] That's up there too. You I will say this it happens somewhat often with you, but they're always gems

[01:10:10] There's never been a not funny one ever

[01:10:13] Um, then we came they spent a lot of time on abortion

[01:10:17] And I mean I I guess to a point I get it

[01:10:20] Because it it is it's a big issue in this election

[01:10:23] But I find it interesting because the trump vance ticket has basically come out and said we're not into this

[01:10:30] in a federal sense

[01:10:31] The supreme court kicked it back to the states, but

[01:10:34] The democrats keeps talking about it. So they keep having me I mean that's a fair answer

[01:10:39] But but then but then uh, what was it the moderator or what was it walls who said well

[01:10:43] What if somebody was going across state or no that they were talking about

[01:10:47] I think you're talking about a talking about a girl who went across state lines and I was like

[01:10:51] Yeah, she died on the way and I don't know anything about no so that I

[01:10:55] And I I feel bad because I forget her name. Um, but I looked up the case they were talking about so

[01:11:01] Walls has a point with her case, but it's missing a lot of context. So here's what happened

[01:11:05] That's what yeah, that's what I wanted to know so that she get the proper

[01:11:09] So she and I apologize. I don't remember her name, but um

[01:11:14] She lived in georgia

[01:11:16] She got pregnant

[01:11:18] She crossed state lines to get abortion pills in north carolina

[01:11:22] She went back home took them and

[01:11:26] The complete uh fetal

[01:11:28] They say fetal tissue. Um, I don't know how far along she was but

[01:11:33] presumably the

[01:11:35] Dead fetus did not expel completely from her body like it's supposed to accept this

[01:11:41] Right, but the reason she and this is a very very very important distinction here. I'm not I'm I'm not saying she certainly didn't deserve it

[01:11:47] Huge huge well no context

[01:11:51] Well, and here's the other part of it

[01:11:53] The doctors refused to treat her because they were afraid

[01:11:58] That they would run afoul of the abortion loss. However, georgia's abortion laws do have an exception when the life of the mother is at risk

[01:12:08] So did you uh, it was also state? What was the problem wrong with the baby or the mother that was the risk?

[01:12:16] Uh, well, okay. So first of all it was not a viable fetus because it was dead

[01:12:19] She had taken the abortion pill. No, I'm talking before because you said that she wasn't able to get care

[01:12:25] Before she went to buy the pills, correct?

[01:12:28] Correct because it wasn't a

[01:12:30] The mother's life wasn't at risk. Okay. So that's

[01:12:34] But then the mother's it was it it was a selfish boy

[01:12:37] I just that those are not the words I want to use but that's the only one that are coming to mind

[01:12:41] It was it was an elective. It was an elective abortion. Thank you. Yes. Okay. So that's that's all that's all I needed to say

[01:12:47] That's the distinction. However, um, she killed herself now. I guess I guess

[01:12:52] I haven't read I haven't I haven't read the statute in georgia, but I guess they're making the case that it's too vaguely worded

[01:12:59] But I mean, I'll be honest. I'm not a lawyer or a doctor

[01:13:02] But I don't know how you could fuck that up by saying that

[01:13:06] Because it they described it as fetal tissue which tells me that it's it's a dead fetus

[01:13:12] That's that's what it's telling me and because it was

[01:13:16] Rotting in her uterus it was giving her sepsis

[01:13:19] I know but the thing is why did they deny her treatment? The doctors denied her treatment

[01:13:23] They weren't told they couldn't they said they wouldn't because they didn't want to run afoul of the abortion

[01:13:28] So and I mean all she really had to do was literally just say she took the pills

[01:13:32] I think she did and go to a go to a hospital immediately and just be like my baby's dead

[01:13:38] It needs to come out of me and then they just literally do the thing. That's the hit

[01:13:41] Well, that's not abortion. That's a procedure. That's allegedly what she did and again

[01:13:45] I wasn't there. I don't know but it seems to me and if this is how did she die if they got removed

[01:13:51] It didn't get out

[01:13:53] They refused to remove it because they were afraid of running afoul of the abortion ban in georgia

[01:13:58] Now here's the thing. I'm not saying the doctors did this, but wouldn't this be a motherfucker?

[01:14:02] What if the doctors did that knowing full well that that could be a case they could throw out and say

[01:14:06] Look at what happened here. And if we'd only been able to give her her care sooner

[01:14:12] Hair

[01:14:14] Well, I mean at that point it's at that point it is care because

[01:14:18] I yeah, I know she she just you know couldn't handle having a kid at that time

[01:14:23] I get it. You know, it's that's not an easy thing to do people don't people forget this all the time

[01:14:27] It's it's not easy to have kids, but it's not okay for you to kill them

[01:14:33] Well, for no good reason for no good reason, you know, there's cookies or something I get

[01:14:38] In place them but um, so here's the thing that's kind of annoying me and it is I want I want to preface this

[01:14:44] Because it's not necessarily my position

[01:14:47] I'm just seeing a logical inconsistency with the pro-life crowd based on what they're not everyone

[01:14:51] But well no kind of everyone because here's the thing. I'll let you help me with this and maybe I'm wrong

[01:14:58] What's the definition of a pro-life?

[01:15:01] Well, I mean do you want the technical one or the one that everybody uses?

[01:15:05] I want the correct one

[01:15:07] Okay, the correct pro-life

[01:15:10] Stance is all life is mad all life matters no matter what happened

[01:15:14] Okay, no matter what they've done nothing like that like that's for the most part

[01:15:18] I kind of stand that pro-life, but like then something crazy happens and this was like

[01:15:23] Right. Okay. Okay. So you're so you're helping me walk down this path

[01:15:27] You're helping me walk down this path

[01:15:29] Okay, because I I agree with you in a little the flashlight for you

[01:15:32] You know and on the car dad in a

[01:15:35] In a literal definitional sense a pro-lifer believes that under no circumstances

[01:15:40] Is an abortion okay or is the killing of a human life?

[01:15:44] Okay, certainly in as far as the abortion is concerned

[01:15:48] No abortion is okay under a literal pro-life stance now

[01:15:52] Then we get into murky territory of things like rape things like incest things like

[01:15:57] Those are the big ones

[01:16:00] Like life life of the mother, you know that kind of stuff

[01:16:03] Do you know where the safest place for a rapist baby is?

[01:16:09] In the womb of a christian

[01:16:10] I hate to say like this because guess what they're they're not going to be killed

[01:16:13] And it's like why punish the baby for the sins of the father, but there there's here's my point

[01:16:19] And i'm not saying i'm not arguing the pro-life position. I'm simply taking it to its logical conclusion

[01:16:23] If you're taking it if you're taking it literally

[01:16:25] So based on their literal definition if you identify as pro-life then your stance logically should be that no abortion is ever okay

[01:16:35] Ever under any circumstances because the baby in question is not guilty

[01:16:41] Only only abortion that matters

[01:16:44] Like and I hate to even say like this

[01:16:46] Is if the mother's life is in absolute danger in which that only happens

[01:16:51] Within the first or second trimester like there are rare occurrences in the third

[01:16:55] But it's it's so rare. So I mean like it sucks, but okay, okay

[01:17:00] So let's because the baby is going to die or is already dead that it would affect the mother's life

[01:17:05] So it's like the baby. So let's so let's let's let's again. We're gonna do a thought experiment

[01:17:10] No, no, we're gonna do a thought experiment here

[01:17:12] I mean, i'm not trying to defeat you. We're having a socratic dialogue. No, so so

[01:17:18] You just asserted that if the mother's life is in danger, it's okay to kill the baby

[01:17:25] I want to make sure that's what i'm understanding

[01:17:26] If the baby is not viable and they do not have because the thing is like an emergency c-section can remove the baby anyway

[01:17:33] Okay, why not just have an emergency c-section to remove the baby?

[01:17:37] But the thing is like if they remove the baby and like there's some kind of I don't know like

[01:17:43] I don't know enough about

[01:17:45] You know illnesses whatnot like I know a little bit like okay, so you're actually so you're actually arguing from the plow

[01:17:54] So you're actually arguing the pro-life stance do me a favor though and help me walk down this path

[01:17:59] So let's say for the sake of uh, uh the dialogue say that yes, it's okay to terminate a pregnancy

[01:18:06] Uh if the mother's life is at risk

[01:18:09] Well, she has the she has the option whether okay, okay? We're talking about it

[01:18:13] Yeah, we're talking about an absolute so just do me a favor to help me walk down this path to illustrate my point

[01:18:18] Say yes, that's okay. I know you don't actually believe that but just humor me

[01:18:23] Uh that that what's what's okay

[01:18:25] That if the mother's if a life of the mother is in danger

[01:18:28] It is okay to terminate a fetus even if it's a sure thing that fetus will not die necessarily

[01:18:35] No

[01:18:36] Just do me a favor

[01:18:38] Yeah

[01:18:39] Okay, so if you have that

[01:18:42] Just okay, it's just okay. So taking that logically. Okay, so what makes me a lot

[01:18:48] I know but you'll see why i'm going this way here in a second. Yeah go for it

[01:18:52] So so if that if that stands to reason, okay

[01:18:55] Then is it okay

[01:18:57] To kill a child

[01:18:59] If that child's existence

[01:19:01] What's the life of the mother at risk?

[01:19:06] well, no

[01:19:08] Okay, so no hey listen

[01:19:10] There's no difference and I like your thinking that's what i'm saying

[01:19:13] I'm taking literally just helped me change my mind again

[01:19:15] I'm I'm taking the pro-life stance to its logical

[01:19:20] Logical conclusion, but the thing is if there's something wrong with the baby and the mother tries to well that that's a thing

[01:19:25] Like if they say the mother tries to have it naturally

[01:19:28] It could kill the baby

[01:19:30] But you well then then that's such weird. Well, that's that's what a cesarean section is for

[01:19:35] Dude you froze like this on me like

[01:19:38] And I was like damn he's mad

[01:19:41] But no, yeah

[01:19:42] So the thing is like if you can have a cesarean section to remove the baby to potentially

[01:19:48] Get the baby out of the danger so that you can fix the mom like I mean

[01:19:54] You kind of don't have an option if the mom's bleeding out and they're trying to save the baby

[01:19:57] That's a little different

[01:19:59] I don't know like that. It's that's

[01:20:02] That's a hard there. There's there. I'm going down a road and it's a lengthy road, but it'll make sense

[01:20:10] Lonely roads

[01:20:12] So okay, so we've taken care of life and the mother inconsistency

[01:20:17] So now we have the rape and incest portion. Okay

[01:20:20] um same logic though

[01:20:23] rape and incest

[01:20:24] fucking awful

[01:20:26] I mean

[01:20:27] rapists should be fucking

[01:20:30] Castrated or killed I agree with Ben Shapiro on that one or at the very least be made to pay

[01:20:35] Restitution for the remainder of their lives

[01:20:38] See, I know society

[01:20:41] And the thing is there will always be the underbelly

[01:20:45] So and they will be the people unfortunately that a lot of us weaklings who can't stomach

[01:20:51] What needs to be done happens and honestly those people send them to regular prism

[01:20:58] And

[01:20:58] Regular prison and things will happen naturally. No one knows about it. It's done. Somebody of society is necessary

[01:21:06] Somebody will take care of it, but my point still stands again

[01:21:11] Is how confused people are my points

[01:21:13] I know so i'm trying to walk through this because I i'll be honest

[01:21:16] I don't know where I stand on the legality of abortion personally

[01:21:20] I I don't think it's a good thing

[01:21:22] I would never personally advocate for it in in my life

[01:21:24] But i'm also never going to rape somebody or anything like that

[01:21:28] Um, yeah, so personally I'm anti-abortion for for me and mine

[01:21:34] However, I'm still up in the air as far as where the state falls on it

[01:21:38] Because and that's why i'm trying to really understand this pro-life point

[01:21:42] So what I keep seeing from the pro-life crowd is that they're actually okay

[01:21:47] They'll tolerate the killing of the unborn only up to a certain point though

[01:21:52] Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me like honestly like it's it's logically inconclusive and then you add in the

[01:21:58] See okay, so all the all the pro-choice people

[01:22:01] Like calm down i'm

[01:22:03] The circle's coming around now and then you have what I refer to as god's abortion. So you have natural miscarriages you have

[01:22:11] Uh

[01:22:12] Stillborn you have all these things that can naturally occur

[01:22:17] So it's it's a real gray fucking area though according to religion if if those those babies

[01:22:24] If if essentially a soul has not been created for them or whatnot like it's like so what happened to those babies and like

[01:22:32] I'm i'm kind of there. It depends on it depends on who you ask honestly, but um, yeah

[01:22:36] It's confusing because we have no answers

[01:22:38] We see the thing is the thing is it would it would be a much easier question to answer if things like natural miscarriages didn't exist

[01:22:45] Be much easier to answer

[01:22:47] But they do but at the same but at the same time though you have to look at the mother for these miscarriages because

[01:22:52] Sure, sure, sure where they're at what they take how they treat their bodies like it can treat your body well

[01:22:58] It can't happen naturally though. It is a thing that can't happen

[01:23:03] honestly

[01:23:03] It does anything not really happen. Yes. Yes. It does anything naturally happen

[01:23:09] Well, no, but it could be it could be something outside location location

[01:23:12] It could be something outside of her control

[01:23:15] environmental

[01:23:16] Yeah, but it's still outside of her control. She's still what I know

[01:23:19] But yeah, I know I get that I get that and but what I'm saying is like everyone tries to blame a creator or god

[01:23:25] What what have you whatever you believe in?

[01:23:28] but

[01:23:29] Why are you blaming something else when?

[01:23:31] If we didn't have any of these plastics and I hate to like be all eco

[01:23:37] We're going down a rabbit hole. Oh, yeah. Yeah

[01:23:39] different rabbit hole

[01:23:41] But like if we didn't have all these things poisoned innocent one and people were for the most part healthy and knew how to clean themselves

[01:23:47] unlike in you know, the

[01:23:49] The medieval times when the black lake was running rampant and all people needed to do was just wash their ass

[01:23:55] Well, it's not quite that sand like some hand sanitizer would have helped them out back in the day

[01:23:59] You know somebody in time, you know time travel goes back and they're just like here

[01:24:02] This is hand sanitizer. This will solve your entire problem. Oh and by the way get cats

[01:24:06] It smells funny

[01:24:09] Actually, you know what fun? Wow, this is a big divergence. You know part of the reason why cats are associated with witches so heavily

[01:24:18] Is it because they kill?

[01:24:21] It's appropriate because we're written into halloween. So this is one of many reasons, right? But one of the big things was

[01:24:27] um, there were

[01:24:30] It was just a population coincidence

[01:24:33] that there were a lot of

[01:24:35] Unmarried women that had cats around now, of course other families had cats

[01:24:39] But there was just a weird coincidence of the population where a lot of older women had cats around exactly story

[01:24:46] They had they had cats around and during the time of the black plague

[01:24:50] What did cats kill?

[01:24:51] They kill mice and the mice and the rats were the ones that were carrying most of the fleas

[01:24:56] That would end up infecting people

[01:24:58] So you had these single women that happened to have cats and they weren't getting sick because they weren't being bitten by the fleas

[01:25:05] Ah, the cat lady has the last laugh

[01:25:07] Mm-hmm

[01:25:09] Well, and that's the take that jay. Do my joke. Yeah, I was gonna say my my joke earlier. I said get a cat

[01:25:16] That's our great, but anyway, that's pretty fucking awesome

[01:25:18] But yeah, so anyway much like to debate we've spent a lot of time on abortion

[01:25:22] So I actually

[01:25:23] I still want to do an episode where we don't necessarily debate abortion

[01:25:27] But I want to talk about it because I want to walk through

[01:25:30] These really come because i'm still trying to figure it out for myself. I I truly am

[01:25:35] Dude, I feel guilty smashing bugs

[01:25:38] I mean fair enough, right?

[01:25:39] But that's that's why I actually kind of tend to agree with the picking it back to the states

[01:25:45] Because at this point, I just don't know right?

[01:25:48] And who am I to fucking tell somebody?

[01:25:52] In the absence of I believe it's wrong

[01:25:54] But the thing is I can't convince you of that you have to I can give you all the points you want

[01:25:58] You have to convince yourself

[01:25:59] Well, and the problem is we can't have a civil discussion in our society about it because everybody gets so militant about it

[01:26:05] But anyway, we're gonna

[01:26:09] And then there was

[01:26:10] I know I was gonna divert so you got something else. I was too so don't I don't want to get down on this road. So

[01:26:18] so

[01:26:20] We'll have a whole podcast on it right the wisconsin abortion bill was brought up

[01:26:25] and

[01:26:26] Walls was like that's not what it says when vance said there were no restrictions in it

[01:26:30] It's like no actually Tim that is what it says because if you actually go to abortionfinder.com

[01:26:35] Wisconsin or I'm sorry, minnesota not wisconsin minnesota is listed as one of the states with no restrictions on abortion

[01:26:43] including duration of pregnancy

[01:26:46] And that's what the fucking bill says

[01:26:50] And wall said again, he's like we restored roe versus wade. Well, you didn't you have no restrictions there

[01:26:55] Roe versus wade had restrictions

[01:26:58] Yeah, what was roe versus wade like 16 weeks or 24 or 22?

[01:27:02] I can't fucking remember now because I got called out for this and I was wrong. I just don't remember what I said

[01:27:08] It's like I don't I don't understand how you can get like three four months down the line and not know something's up

[01:27:13] I'm like dude the first month that you haven't got your period. I think something's up like because

[01:27:17] If it's not health

[01:27:19] Exactly if it's not if it's not health related like because the thing is you know a lot of women

[01:27:23] You know endometriosis and pc os and whatnot

[01:27:26] You know that they have irregular periods and they have painful periods and whatnot and you know sex can be painful

[01:27:32] whatnot

[01:27:32] So it's like here's the thing though and I will and I'm not trying to shush you here, but I am trying to shush myself

[01:27:37] I guess

[01:27:38] um

[01:27:39] The thing of it is I much like the reason I don't talk about military service when it comes to tim wall's or anyone for that

[01:27:44] Matter I didn't serve in the military. I'm not a woman

[01:27:47] I'm not going to comment on when you should know your brain now granted you have children

[01:27:51] So you have a more of a leg to stand on than I do but um, I'm not a woman

[01:27:57] I don't know and nor will I ever know what it's like to be pregnant because guess what I have a dick

[01:28:02] Um, I'll never know what it's like to be pregnant no matter what. Have you ever been really constipated?

[01:28:08] Oh, this must be like six corrects except it bounces around in the iron kicks

[01:28:14] That's like when you try to tie food

[01:28:17] Actually, I only ate high food once and I didn't care for it

[01:28:21] Uh, I just remember watching uh, tim the tool man taylor, you know talking about the tie food

[01:28:27] Oh, oh, what is this gas and stomach? He did not do that had stomach problems

[01:28:31] I was like that that dude was dead if they had a new show he'd be in the yeah, he did

[01:28:37] never um anyway

[01:28:39] There I will say this once and for all I looked because I download a project 2025. I

[01:28:46] Stupidly thought I was gonna read it and that ain't happened

[01:28:49] But what I did remember is that there's this funky little there's this nifty little tool called find

[01:28:53] So you can search for words in it. There is no pregnancy registration in project 2025

[01:28:59] And it doesn't matter because trump is not instituting that as his policy

[01:29:04] He and vance have both said it repeatedly

[01:29:09] It's not a thing how many times does someone have to say no, I don't stand with any of that like

[01:29:14] I mean, I may stand with a few things but like that's not mine. It's not it's not the trump administration's

[01:29:21] policy

[01:29:22] It's just not

[01:29:25] And they just keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it

[01:29:28] That's what they call that pushing the lie and I need to fact check this

[01:29:31] But I thought I had read well no I read but I need to fact check it

[01:29:34] That one of the directors of project 2025 just endorsed Kamala Harris. I don't know if that's true

[01:29:40] But I I read it so did russia so did

[01:29:44] So did iran. Yeah

[01:29:46] Sorry, these things are hurting my ears

[01:29:53] No, I get it. Um, what else do we got because I really don't want to stay on abortion

[01:30:00] Now he said something he said something about maternal mortality sky rotting in texas it it hasn't I've seen nothing to indicate that it has

[01:30:09] That that's just patently not true and if if it is true proved me wrong but skyrocket

[01:30:15] I don't I don't know about that because I don't I don't

[01:30:18] I don't I don't see how abortion care prevents maternal mortality. I I don't understand

[01:30:27] Because that

[01:30:29] That just that just doesn't compute for me and again if i'm wrong

[01:30:33] But in the comments but source it so I can look up your source

[01:30:37] um

[01:30:37] And then gady wasn't letting this bone go and I I agree with him about the minnesota law

[01:30:44] so

[01:30:45] My question if I revamped would have been so what happens

[01:30:49] What happens in minnesota if a baby does survive an abortion tim? What happens?

[01:30:57] Tell you are able to kill them

[01:31:00] literally that's

[01:31:02] That's I I don't know that it literally says it but it kind of indicates it

[01:31:06] Like I said, I haven't read the actual law, but if i'm sorry they vague on purpose

[01:31:12] That's precisely it right and apparently

[01:31:15] There was a version that was brought to him before that and he vetoed it when it called for it said specifically that

[01:31:23] Uh an infant that survived an abortion would have to be cared for

[01:31:28] Yeah, because rightfully so like they earned their right to life. Oh wait, they should have already had it but

[01:31:34] Yeah, exactly. So uh, so let's move on to liberty

[01:31:38] Life liberty in the pursuit of happiness

[01:31:40] Yep, so these things are fucking kill my ears. I'm sorry. You're good. So uh, we move on from abortions to the happy topic of guns

[01:31:48] um

[01:31:49] So I got a I got a fact check walls here

[01:31:52] He said it was the top cause of death for children and teens

[01:31:55] But according to the cdc and I hate the fact that I had to look this up and it honestly pissed me off

[01:32:03] So according to the cdc

[01:32:04] Wait a minute where the fuck is oh don't tell me I deleted it like a moron

[01:32:09] Oh, no, I did not no, I got it

[01:32:12] top three causes of death by age group according to the cdc

[01:32:16] Zero to one developmental and genetic conditions are number one

[01:32:21] conditions due to premature birth and accidents ages one to four accidents

[01:32:27] developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth or homicide

[01:32:32] five to nine

[01:32:33] And it doesn't specify homicide by gun. I would just like to point out

[01:32:38] Ages five to nine accidents cancer developmental and genetic conditions

[01:32:43] 10 to 14 year old 10 to 14 year olds accidents

[01:32:48] suicide

[01:32:49] and cancer

[01:32:51] So you could maybe make the case for homicides being

[01:32:56] Gun related but it doesn't say gun related and I'm sorry. I have a hard time

[01:33:00] believing that one to four year olds experience a ton of gun violence

[01:33:05] You'd be surprised well, I mean location location

[01:33:08] Fair enough, but that doesn't necessarily point to just gun violence again like I said

[01:33:14] So uh, you's wrong tim. I'm sorry. You just you just wrong

[01:33:18] Um, but I do agree

[01:33:20] That there should be more legitimate research done on gun violence

[01:33:23] But not just blaming the guns again. I'm a second amendment guy, but

[01:33:28] I mean we need facts here

[01:33:32] Plain and simple right right depends on what I don't know. I don't know about that

[01:33:40] They're beautiful dogs

[01:33:44] Why are you crying?

[01:33:48] Oh gun, but yeah, I didn't I didn't have much to say on guns because this is all the same old shit from both sides

[01:33:53] Mm-hmm. Yeah, although it was funny there shouldn't there should there shouldn't be any restrictions

[01:34:00] No, I want to fucking yes, they should

[01:34:02] Um, but did you did you catch one walls?

[01:34:05] And he did accidentally say this he didn't mean this but he accidentally said that he had become friends with school shooters

[01:34:12] He meant the families he meant the families he meant the victims, but he literally said and I become friends with school

[01:34:19] Yeah, exactly meant to say school shoot. He meant to say school shoot

[01:34:23] It's just better for me to say shooters and say shooties

[01:34:28] shooties nuts

[01:34:31] Yeah, we're almost done because honestly after abortion the debate kind of fizzled

[01:34:35] And there wasn't much of substance

[01:34:37] um, both of both candidates agreed that the government should spend money to build more housing and I'm just like

[01:34:43] No, what what happened to small government?

[01:34:46] Like

[01:34:47] What is funny is I thought that and I literally I haven't finished it

[01:34:49] But I listened to Ben Shapiro today and he literally said the same thing

[01:34:53] I'm like that's so funny because I had the exact same thought it's like why is a republican not arguing for free market

[01:35:01] Government doesn't need they need to get their hands out of everything exactly they need to get out the way

[01:35:06] Because they're like, oh, we see this over here. Let's start a new program. Oh, we can put somebody in that position for $150,000 a year

[01:35:13] Oh

[01:35:15] That's cheap. I'm sorry. I'm being nice

[01:35:17] I had to change my notes again though because it was funny

[01:35:20] I wrote down there will be no immediate relief and then JD Vance immediately after I finished writing that sentence

[01:35:24] Brought up energy and I went never mind lower energy would get prices low now

[01:35:31] Like shit JD because JD energy energy goes down like price wise everything goes

[01:35:38] It's bit. It's like bitcoin for the entire market when bitcoin goes up or down

[01:35:43] Everything follows it. Well, literally fuel specifically fuel because

[01:35:48] Yeah, but energy but energy even in production size of things you're like you have to power the factory

[01:35:54] You have to power the tools you have to drive the cars you have to drive the trucks

[01:35:57] You have to do all this shit. You have to run the machinery

[01:35:59] So yes, lower energy bills lower prices and guess what if if companies have more money to invest in solar

[01:36:07] They might end up actually doing it because the thing is that they might see it as

[01:36:11] Advantages over time because eventually they can go to zero

[01:36:16] Not emissions. I'm sorry like I'm sorry that there there are plenty of fucking plants and

[01:36:20] And trees and whatnot for the amount of carbon that we released they fucking it's it's taken care of

[01:36:28] Anyway, so why can't they just you know, go ahead the thing that the left has done that they skipped the transition period

[01:36:34] It's like my car is a prime example

[01:36:37] So I bought an EV

[01:36:40] But it's got a gas generator in it

[01:36:43] Fucking my my emissions are so much lower than a gas car

[01:36:47] I mean, it's insane because the bulk of the the bulk of the driving

[01:36:50] I do is purely on the battery the gas tank

[01:36:53] I mean the gas tank is there to power the generator

[01:36:55] Just to get you home when you run out of battery power

[01:36:59] And the thing about things like solar is and geothermal for your h-fax system too

[01:37:05] When you're building a house, it's way cheaper to implement it as you're building

[01:37:10] As opposed to retrofitting an existing house

[01:37:12] So instead of trying to retrofit everything if they had taken it as a step forward

[01:37:18] For new construction that incentivizes the person building the house to do so financially

[01:37:24] Guess what happens? That's a free market solution

[01:37:28] I mean you don't go back to

[01:37:31] 60s and 70s cars and try and add

[01:37:34] cruise control

[01:37:36] And abs and all these other things that are on all the newer cars that we love and cherish because they keep our ass is safe

[01:37:42] Because we're too stupid to hit the brakes on time wouldn't be cost effective to do so

[01:37:47] Even if you could

[01:37:49] It wouldn't be cost effective. No, so the thing is you have to focus on the future quit living in the past

[01:37:55] And let the past is allow because honestly if they had taken that approach like if these plug-in

[01:38:00] even you I'm sorry these

[01:38:03] There's technical term, but I'm going to call it a plug-in hybrid for the sake of simplicity even though it's not technically a hybrid

[01:38:08] But yeah, it's whatever

[01:38:11] Um

[01:38:13] If that had been the bridge

[01:38:16] There would be more v there would be more evs on the road right now because a lot of people's biggest

[01:38:21] Hesitation with a purely electric vehicle is the range

[01:38:24] Well, guess what if you got a gas generator

[01:38:27] It's not an issue anymore and my gas mileage when i'm running purely on gas is still like 50 to 60 miles per gallon

[01:38:34] It's crazy

[01:38:39] It's an eight gallon tank. I fill it up for about 20 bucks and today 24 bucks in today's gas mileage from an empty tank

[01:38:44] And I get 330 miles out of it

[01:38:48] If i'm running on pure gas

[01:38:52] You get 330 on just gas

[01:38:56] Holy shit

[01:38:59] So then what what what do you get on a full tank ev charge and gas?

[01:39:03] That would be roughly like five

[01:39:06] Five not not quite because at a full charge. I get about 60 miles

[01:39:10] And then great. So probably just should just shy of 400

[01:39:15] Yeah, but still

[01:39:17] That's a lot. Yeah, it's it's fucking great. I love that car

[01:39:21] Um, so then we move to healthcare which this is

[01:39:26] Vance again made a good point

[01:39:28] And he made a free market solution here price transparency

[01:39:33] That's what we need. We need price transparency. I need to know how much it is to get an MRI here versus here

[01:39:40] Because guess what here

[01:39:43] Because guess what if you know how much an MRI costs at dr. A and dr. B

[01:39:48] Does the MRI for less more people are going to go to dr

[01:39:50] B and dr. A will have to drop their prices or go out of business

[01:39:55] Which is true

[01:39:59] And then honestly, I don't even want to go into the other categories because they were so

[01:40:03] Just that although I did say

[01:40:06] It's funny because I realized now ben said this too. Um

[01:40:10] I disagree with calling the child care issue a crisis

[01:40:16] Because wall said there was a child care crisis

[01:40:20] I'm like, no, there's a wage and family crisis. There's not a child. There's a child care problem for sure

[01:40:27] Well, no the the biggest problem is that these mothers and fathers have to continue to go to work

[01:40:34] And they have to put their kids in child care more and it costs just as much as they're making pretty much

[01:40:39] Because now they have to

[01:40:41] They're broke because of the economy. So fix the economy child care costs

[01:40:45] Yes

[01:40:45] Will follow and then guess what people won't have to work as much so they can take care of their families

[01:40:50] And yes, because mom can stay home or dad can stay home because there is a wage and extended family crisis

[01:40:58] Because you know where you don't hear about child care is an issue

[01:41:01] Like this this this is gonna sound a little bit racist, but it's true big families. Oh, yeah

[01:41:05] I already know where you're going

[01:41:07] You don't hear about it. You know why?

[01:41:09] because the extended family helps

[01:41:12] And the extended families way used to be

[01:41:14] They broke up

[01:41:16] They broke up

[01:41:17] Most of our families dude and like that like no one just saw it like they literally gave you all the

[01:41:22] Fools to literally just stay away from your family and keep it separated and yeah, exactly

[01:41:26] But what is really funny is I actually know it's a very small home builder

[01:41:30] They only build like three houses a year

[01:41:31] But they build a specific type of tri level house where it's basically you can

[01:41:38] You can have it as a triplex or you can have it as a three generation

[01:41:43] Or two to three generations of a family living in one house but separated areas

[01:41:48] So there's privacy, but you're all in the same house

[01:41:52] It's actually quite revolutionary and the thing is if yeah, it's like a 300 thousand dollar house in today's economy

[01:41:58] But three families live in there

[01:42:01] Yeah, dude like everybody's splitting the mortgage and you know who's buying them up

[01:42:08] They don't have trouble selling houses

[01:42:10] They don't have any available now. I actually spoke with them about two months ago two or three months ago

[01:42:15] Yeah, because honestly like even like with a couple of your buddies

[01:42:19] That's that's what i'm saying

[01:42:20] He's just three man you you want to go in on uh, you want to go in one of these houses. So you know blah blah

[01:42:26] Yeah, exactly it's it's hella cheaper than rent

[01:42:30] Hell even if right now even well, yeah

[01:42:33] But I mean here's the thing even if one guy has the mortgage

[01:42:35] Just get two of your buddies to pay a third of the mortgages in rent and everybody's happy because they're paying lower than

[01:42:41] Market value rent would be and your mortgage is cut into a third as far as what's coming out of your pocket directly

[01:42:47] Hell honestly you could probably get them to just pay most of it because they probably be grateful

[01:42:52] You probably could yeah

[01:42:53] They get a badass house for like way cheap and then they can live as long as they want

[01:42:58] I mean, here's the thing. Let's let's let's say let's which I don't think at 300

[01:43:03] I don't think you'd be able to get a mortgage today if your credit was that bad

[01:43:06] But let's say that your mortgage payment was

[01:43:12] On 275 at 3 it would be about well wouldn't be 3 percent though six

[01:43:17] Well, I know it'd be about 1600 but with a 7 percent it'd be about 2300

[01:43:23] Okay on 275 so honestly it'd probably be about close to 2700

[01:43:29] So split three raise that's 900 bucks. That's cheaper than rent

[01:43:33] In most and that's cheaper than a one bedroom apartment and I remind you

[01:43:37] It's hard to describe because you haven't seen this like it's a full house on each level each level has a kitchen

[01:43:42] I it depends on the layout they go, but I think each level is a kitchen two bed two bath

[01:43:47] Man, the only problems I would have with that is like

[01:43:51] What do they put in between for sounding sound purposes because it's I don't want to hear

[01:43:59] It's it's pretty good. They they put good materials and but again that comes down to the finishes you put in right

[01:44:04] Which is something that you can somewhat control, but anyway, that's a

[01:44:09] Yeah, I'd love to buy one. I really kind of want to buy one eventually, but I also want to live on land where I'm not around other people

[01:44:17] So fuck, you know

[01:44:21] Um, and then they they had this all my land

[01:44:24] Fucking a dude. I'm tempted

[01:44:27] I'm over I'm over other people dude. I'm the older I get the more I'm like I just want to

[01:44:33] Not interact with people today

[01:44:35] Seriously, we'll just build a little tiny home in the corner of the property

[01:44:40] Dude, I'm in a studio a studio next to it

[01:44:44] Oh man, I'm so tempted

[01:44:48] Oh and then the other thing I put down is like because they're talking about how

[01:44:52] They need to have like mandated mandated

[01:44:54] A maternity leave and the only note I have is like the job didn't get her pregnant

[01:45:02] Like you know what that's gonna do if you I've never understood that one

[01:45:05] Like if you but here's a here's the thing that's gonna happen and nobody wants to say this but it's fucking true

[01:45:11] If you mandate maternity leave guess who they're gonna stop hiring

[01:45:16] women

[01:45:17] Well, even not just women because maternity leave implies paternity leave too. They're gonna stop hiring

[01:45:24] People that are married people that are older

[01:45:25] They're gonna start hiring younger kids fresh out of college that are less likely to have a family

[01:45:31] And there's going to be some level of discrimination

[01:45:35] Because they're gonna want to ditch out if they can at all avoid paying that maternity paternity leave. They will

[01:45:40] They absolutely will

[01:45:44] So that's the thing that's gonna happen

[01:45:46] Because the thing is if you're halfway decent at your if you're in a good skilled field

[01:45:52] Fuck yeah, they'll give you maternity leave because they don't want you to go somewhere else

[01:45:57] I mean, that's the dirty little secret that nobody ever talks about is the fact that if your job wants to deny

[01:46:02] To in the united states today if your job wants to deny you good pay and benefits

[01:46:08] It's one of two things one that business is not run properly and cannot afford to give anyone those things or

[01:46:15] You are not skilled and you are fucking expendable

[01:46:21] If you're good if you're good at your job in a skilled field

[01:46:24] You have the power

[01:46:30] And then they went into this

[01:46:31] Yeah, and then they went into this weird state of democracy thing and i'm just like again

[01:46:35] This is another segment that seems tailor made to shit on donald trump

[01:46:40] But even jd turned jd turned this one around too because he brought up the censorship

[01:46:45] And i'm like god damn this guy is a fucking ninja debating

[01:46:49] I was impressed. He was he

[01:46:51] He's good

[01:46:52] I'm laughing though the people people are saying that tim walls want to debate and i'm just like oh fuck were you watching

[01:46:59] Does i'll even concede i could see how depending on your point of view you could have made the case that kamala maybe won their exchange

[01:47:06] I don't agree with that necessarily although she did exceed expectations. So i guess that's kind of a win

[01:47:11] But this debate hands down vance was in control the entire fucking time

[01:47:18] Which is impressive considering it was three on one

[01:47:23] Because the moderators took tim walls to task once

[01:47:29] And then they kept pushing on vance like pushing and pushing and pushing and then literally debating with him and then fact checking them

[01:47:35] Something they weren't supposed to do it's like man. You guys are just i don't know why he agreed to abc or wasn't mbc

[01:47:43] Because you know what he was i think it was cbs actually

[01:47:46] He exposed them really if you he wasn't scared. He won. They literally agreed to rules and then broke them

[01:47:53] What side does that the most oh, okay?

[01:47:57] Yeah, exactly. But the thing is vance went and skirt

[01:48:01] He said yeah, i'll come on your fucking stupid network that's against me openly and i'll still he doesn't even he doesn't even need to debate

[01:48:08] He's i i assume it'll be vb

[01:48:12] Yeah, i kind of agree because it

[01:48:16] I think he's fine

[01:48:17] And i i think i think trump's got this from the bag because i think enough

[01:48:21] I think enough of the american citizens have seen enough of the bullshit finally

[01:48:26] And i think they're starting to see through because like if you scroll through tick tock, dude

[01:48:30] That's just the nc. Here's the thing. I know exactly what you're talking about and it's not just tick tock

[01:48:34] It's all of my social media now. Here's the thing

[01:48:39] Like i know that it curates based on what i watch but i purposely follow left pages too to kind of counteract that

[01:48:46] And the sentiment i'm seeing even in comment sections

[01:48:50] There are comments in some of the stuff that the biden harris hq puts out

[01:48:55] And people are saying like trump 2024 or you're a liar or not all of them

[01:49:00] But it it exists and here's the other thing too. We've seen this before

[01:49:04] This is the same thing that happened with hillary clinton when she was running in 2016

[01:49:09] Oh, yeah, she's beating trump. She's beating trump. He flipped states that had her as the clear victor in polling data

[01:49:15] And here's the other thing i like to remind everybody else even in 2020

[01:49:19] Trump lost that election in terms of the voter numbers. He still outperformed the poll numbers

[01:49:26] So he lost but he lost by a smaller margin than the poll said

[01:49:32] So well and then georgia came out and apologized

[01:49:35] And then they said, uh, did you see that? Mm-hmm bolton county

[01:49:40] Oh really

[01:49:42] Yeah, I don't know the exact specifics of it because I literally just ran across it like literally last night

[01:49:48] I

[01:49:49] But apparently folton county was apologized into trump or something like that and it was it was something about the election

[01:49:55] So no most see most see

[01:49:58] Oh, that might be that might be uh, because this is his cases in folton county too. That might have been something

[01:50:04] Um, what was the other thing i was gonna say?

[01:50:06] So, yeah, all these states where trump and kamala are running pretty well neck and neck remember on average trump

[01:50:13] Um, how do how do how did they word this?

[01:50:16] grump

[01:50:18] Exceeded poll numbers by about three to five percent

[01:50:23] So if it's 47 47 in pennsylvania, for example, and I think right now it's like marginally leaning kamala

[01:50:30] But it's it's less than a percent

[01:50:32] So keep that in mind trump could outperform that number by as much as five percent

[01:50:38] And that would be a historically trending number

[01:50:41] And see after a bad economy after a bad economy like we've had I think that number's higher

[01:50:45] I think it could be as much as 10 percent

[01:50:48] I don't think all the uh abortion talk and women's rights and all this other stuff is enough to sway voters this time because of

[01:50:55] How bad the economic policies are especially foreign policies everything right now is a disaster

[01:51:01] Every everything every aspect of the government right now is a disaster and what's frustrating to me is the fact that you can point to things

[01:51:08] That are happening right now and say

[01:51:11] This was not happening when donald trump was president

[01:51:14] And you can point to reasons why it's not a coincidence. That's the thing a lot of times

[01:51:18] You'll hear me say on the show that like well, you can't really attribute that to him

[01:51:22] So that's like no there are things you can point to is real

[01:51:26] China's further aggression in the south china c and just generally speaking russia

[01:51:31] And the fact that you're not invading ukraine these are all things that you can point to the biden administration's failure in afghanistan and point to say

[01:51:37] Yes, this gave our enemies motivation the fact that you gave iran about 18 billion dollars back in frozen assets

[01:51:44] What do you think the largest sponsor of terrorism in the middle east is going to do with 18 billion dollars?

[01:51:51] They go terrorize

[01:51:54] It's like you were handed

[01:51:56] The world's strongest economy after a global pandemic and you fucked it up because you spent even more money

[01:52:04] Now you get you can have to literally do was just figure a way to stop spending money for just

[01:52:09] A cycle and the deficit would start falling and then like the dollar would have gone up

[01:52:13] And then they could have spent more on the deficit and like it's like come on guys exactly economics are really not that hard

[01:52:19] It's really not like it's kind of it's kind of shameful how complicated they've made it

[01:52:22] It's it's truly not it's it's really not you

[01:52:26] like

[01:52:27] It can all be attributed back to personal finance

[01:52:29] he gets a little bit dicey when you're talking about because

[01:52:31] Credits a little bit different when you're talking about like a nation versus a person but like fundamentally

[01:52:35] I mean andrew jackson did it. He got the deficit down to zero. He got the national debt down to zero. I'm sorry

[01:52:42] um

[01:52:43] Don't go clean

[01:52:45] Oh, yeah a surplus actually

[01:52:47] Mm-hmm. Yeah, so okay, so that's uh, there was only a couple

[01:52:51] I don't I don't think he got that it wasn't a national debt surplus. It was a deficit surplus meaning that

[01:52:57] There were still national debt, but they're spending and revenue made it so that it was

[01:53:03] Well, there was a there was a bit of extra money in terms of the deficit

[01:53:07] Yeah, it was it was national debt didn't get down to zero

[01:53:09] I don't think since what happened in the 90s dude like like the reason

[01:53:13] Bill Clinton was such a star was because of how well everything was doing

[01:53:17] Well, and the irony is that bill clinton took the middle path. He wasn't like a hardcore democrat in that regard economically

[01:53:23] He wasn't his wife. That's what everybody doesn't understand

[01:53:26] No, because he controlled him I was like

[01:53:28] Because once bill clinton actually got into office. He understood how economics works

[01:53:33] I'm actually praising bill clinton for you know

[01:53:36] Meeting republicans in the middle and having one of the greatest economies say there was a slight depression in the early 90s

[01:53:42] But clinton wasn't elected until

[01:53:45] Was it 91 or 91 or 92?

[01:53:49] Hold on I have to what was 87 91

[01:53:54] Yeah, we got elected. He won the election in 91 and took office in 92 right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

[01:54:00] Thanks a lot. I'm just gonna I'm gonna fact check that real quick

[01:54:04] Do do do do

[01:54:05] Oh, no, we were wrong. So we served from 88 92

[01:54:09] Now he served from so he was elected in 92. He served from 93 to 2001

[01:54:15] okay

[01:54:16] God, that's wild the fact that we were alive during that 2001 election. It was only

[01:54:20] It's only 23 years ago yet. It feels so long ago

[01:54:26] Did you know it's how memory works man? Did you know that when that election took place? We this technology didn't exist

[01:54:35] The technology did exist. No, but it was not placed

[01:54:39] We could there were there were people that could video chat back in the day video chat like not but not live stream it to

[01:54:46] A mass audience

[01:54:48] Well, supposedly they live streamed the moon

[01:54:52] Landings that was that was television though. That wasn't the internet

[01:54:55] Little different. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I'm with you

[01:54:59] Different different technology. I guess tell me we could happen right

[01:55:02] You're right. We would have we would have had to have been attached to a television network

[01:55:06] See, that's what happens when you get on podcast man. You just gotta argue this

[01:55:09] No, I'm just kidding. It's just listen. Yeah. No, we didn't have this technology. Yeah, hear me out aliens

[01:55:18] They're from asgard

[01:55:21] An ancient culture could have viewed them as gods

[01:55:25] Have you seen uh like the stupid flat earth map and like literally they have as they have asgard on it

[01:55:33] Wait a minute wait a minute wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hang on time out

[01:55:38] Asgard is not so the earth would be midgard asgard is a different plane of existence. I have to see this map

[01:55:45] Um, so basically the earth is the circle in the middle

[01:55:49] whatnot and then on the outside of an ice wall or something

[01:55:53] Is like three different huge continents or something like that and one of them is asgard

[01:55:57] You know what that it's it's not it's not an actual place. It's just the supposedly that's the name of it and that's yeah

[01:56:04] So that might actually that might actually be legit in terms of north mythology because there is a it's not an ice wall

[01:56:10] It's actually a world-eating serpent. So that's what surrounds it's a it's a giant snake that's eating its own tail

[01:56:15] That's what keeps the oceans. I think that's right for north mythology

[01:56:20] Yeah, i'm pretty sure that's right. It'd be crazy

[01:56:23] Well, yeah, so if the thing decides to stop eating its ass is like a dog chasing its tail

[01:56:28] Like think about this way man either that's true aliens either the the bible

[01:56:33] Like either aliens all of it is equally awesome

[01:56:40] I don't care like everyone's like oh, it could be this this that's like dude

[01:56:44] It's all equally awesome because they are crazy stories that we're part of we just

[01:56:51] I suppose um, but yeah, like I said, I think jd was the clear victor of this

[01:56:56] Um, oh, yeah honest and I can argue this point. So like if you disagree with me come on. We'll we'll talk about it

[01:57:04] I was just you know, I've tried to get so many people to come on when they just agree the screen

[01:57:08] Oh, I don't have time for that

[01:57:09] But i'm like you got time to go back and forth through it for me for six hours out of this day

[01:57:12] No, I was I was so proud

[01:57:14] There were some guy who kept any comment who was commenting on one of our posts on tiktok

[01:57:18] And he actually said he was like it was like if you're not a coward you'll invite me on your podcast and I said

[01:57:23] Yeah, come on absolutely

[01:57:26] No response. He was not expecting that

[01:57:30] Like why did they think that like not not even conservative like we're pretty we're pretty much

[01:57:35] Middle left and middle right like what we're about as sinners you can get if you put us both together like we would be dead center

[01:57:42] Like that's pretty much

[01:57:44] That's I think it's a fair assessment, but why do people act like we're afraid to talk

[01:57:48] I talked my entire life. You know exactly. No, it's what we do. We do it for fun for fuck's sake

[01:57:54] Like we don't even get paid to do this

[01:57:56] Not yet

[01:57:57] Not yet

[01:57:58] We're getting there imagine when we do get paid then we'll get real fucking annoying

[01:58:02] Oh, dude, I was like and you're paying us to do this. I'm just kidding

[01:58:07] Fuck you

[01:58:09] I know I can't wait to get some different segments going like uh once uh my life is not on hold anymore

[01:58:18] I am reaching the breaking point though of having to oh, yeah, sure

[01:58:23] Like there's there's a wall here. There's no it's not podcast

[01:58:26] I want to like I want to branch out do different types of videos like more

[01:58:30] On the go type like recorded and whatnot, you know, like I'm getting kind of burnout on the sit down and talk

[01:58:36] Like I kind of want to be on the in the field. You know what I mean

[01:58:40] Getting get in the field. Yeah

[01:58:42] Yeah, and talk with people and whatnot maybe like venture out. I haven't talked with people in a long time so

[01:58:48] Anyway, so

[01:58:49] Are you like human?

[01:58:52] You go going to the big sit you go into the big city big city and be like, oh my lucky stars

[01:58:56] The negro holy stars. Um

[01:59:01] You know, shit was so funny

[01:59:03] It's a great moment. It's not how do you do I do fine

[01:59:08] It's a great moment. Um, anyway

[01:59:12] Um, that's it. That was it. That's one like easily. I already knew it

[01:59:17] This two and a half hour podcast is all about telling you that jd vance won

[01:59:22] So

[01:59:23] Yeah, I don't know how we just freestyle two and a half hours of this

[01:59:27] Dude, we do it all the time. Actually, I know you didn't watch it

[01:59:29] But you should we did an episode of toon talk last night that i'm not kidding

[01:59:34] Virus came

[01:59:36] What's that?

[01:59:37] Go ahead. No, i'm sorry. Go ahead virus came up with this idea at 3 p.m

[01:59:41] We go live at 8 p.m

[01:59:43] We we put three fictional characters on trial

[01:59:48] And as we were doing it we came up with the idea that

[01:59:52] Somebody would actually play the witnesses that were brought to see we were just going to argue points

[01:59:58] And we came up with the idea as we were doing it. The whole thing's freestyle. It is fucking hilarious

[02:00:05] Okay, it is so goddamn funny and actually so we put garth vader

[02:00:11] um

[02:00:13] The george collinny batman and goku on trial

[02:00:21] And it's okay. I'm actually quite proud because who did who did I end up playing?

[02:00:26] I think I played all the witnesses for the garth vader trial. So this includes

[02:00:31] uh, obi one

[02:00:32] Luke Skywalker pad may and r2d to

[02:00:38] Oh my gosh, I can only imagine goku like oh, what's that in your hand? Is that food like sir? This is a bible

[02:00:42] I actually did I I played goku as well and frieza as as uh witnesses

[02:00:49] Did did you do uh, uh

[02:00:52] I can't remember his name. Uh

[02:00:54] The newer frieza or did you uh, I did the new one. I can't do lindy young

[02:00:58] So I did I did the chris air and I actually there's a newer

[02:01:01] And he'll be dead

[02:01:06] Yeah, and then i'm trying to eat at the smoke for like years to match her voice

[02:01:09] And I I I actually come to think of it. I played most of the witnesses

[02:01:14] I think I played all the witnesses now that I think about it because I played uh, you

[02:01:18] Well, I just I mean I just I get I wanted to I got to play the christian bail batman

[02:01:29] There's there's there's some good references. I highly recommend you check that out because it was a fun

[02:01:33] It's a hilarious episode and I think

[02:01:35] We're gonna do it again and it's gonna become like a

[02:01:39] Semi regular theme that we do except we did agree that we should only put two characters on trial instead of three

[02:01:46] But guys it's funny you guys should do uh

[02:01:49] Like when you get those certain characters on trial if you guys don't want to do them

[02:01:53] You literally have someone pop in on zoom and then that's what that's the plan

[02:01:57] That's what we're gonna do

[02:01:57] So I told him I said if we're gonna do this right we're gonna work it out ahead of time

[02:02:00] Let's justin joined us uh to be

[02:02:04] And then alexander the oracle was the judge the impartial judge for every case

[02:02:09] Um, it was funny. It was it was quite funny. I it was it was it was it was quite hilarious

[02:02:15] It's funny because i'm i'm doing I i'm playing padme amadala, but I I can't obviously I can't mimic nally portman's voice

[02:02:23] So I just threw a high-pitched voice, but i'm british for some reason like half the time

[02:02:29] I have no idea why i'm doing

[02:02:30] I have no idea why i'm doing this

[02:02:35] There's another great moment

[02:02:38] There's another great moment where

[02:02:40] I'm i'm luke skywalker and i'm on the witness stand and max just goes i mean i call you luke and i just go no

[02:02:51] Only my friends do

[02:02:53] I just i just i don't know what persuaded me to just be like no

[02:02:59] Throw up for a luke because he was excited me to say yes and there's like he's like oh

[02:03:04] And oh god and then justin is interviewing obi one. He's like he's like uh obi one ben

[02:03:12] Mr. Kenobi masta kenobi

[02:03:15] Master kenobi done it's it's good. I highly recommend you check it out. It's the latest episode on uh tune talk 2.0

[02:03:23] That's all virus uh advertising

[02:03:25] Yeah, we're uh, we're rambling now though. So we're gonna lock this down. Um

[02:03:33] It's been another one

[02:03:35] Yeah, go home two in a row man

[02:03:38] Yep

[02:03:40] And uh, I don't know what we'll do next week, but we'll figure it out

[02:03:43] You'll be the third ones to know

[02:03:47] I'm sure there will be something to pop up

[02:03:50] Well, I have an idea but

[02:03:52] We'll we'll see but anyway

[02:03:54] We've taken up enough of your time

[02:03:56] And if not, don't watch old episodes. But until then

[02:04:01] Fuck you

[02:04:02] Bit superior we have some superio