Down The Middle Episode 74: King and Queen of the Ring & AEW Double or Nothing Reactions

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[00:00:39] Thank you for everyone bearing with us. Welcome to Down The Middle as always I am your host Jake and I'm joined by my partner and crying my tag team partner

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[00:02:46] Okay, so now we're all said welcome to Down The Middle like I said I am your host Jake and I'm joined by my co-host tag team partner

[00:02:53] New Yorker other adjectives the king and we're talking

[00:03:01] Was king of the ring king and queen of the ring king and queen and queen of the ring technically first

[00:03:08] Hopefully so I believe it did take place earlier today, but first this possa this podcast is brought to you by

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[00:03:26] This week since we're both

[00:03:29] Wow then crazy guys we were busy

[00:03:31] So I watched king and queen of the ring did you end up watching it or did you not?

[00:03:36] I seem part of it. I honestly don't remember much of it

[00:03:40] I did see some clips of it

[00:03:43] So

[00:03:44] Somehow even though I watched the whole thing including the pre show

[00:03:48] Somehow I missed the pre show match. I don't know how that's possible

[00:03:54] Because I was like looking just to refresh my memory

[00:03:57] I looked at it again and brushed up and I was like wait a minute

[00:04:01] Jade and Bianca had a match

[00:04:03] Somehow I missed it, but

[00:04:06] But so we may as well start there the premium live event

[00:04:11] And what city and Saudi Arabia was that in again? I can never remember

[00:04:15] Is it like jettah or something was it jettah?

[00:04:20] Yeah jettah Saudi Arabia

[00:04:23] The pre show kicked off with Bianca Belair and Jade Cargill successfully

[00:04:28] Defending their WWE women's tag team matches matches. Oh my god. It's been a day

[00:04:35] I sound I'm gonna sound real dumb tonight just for warning everyone

[00:04:39] And by the way for those you watching on YouTube and or TikTok feel free to comment whenever you've

[00:04:45] And we will read them aloud when the as soon as the opportunity presents itself

[00:04:51] Like I said I didn't see this match, but it said it was only eight minutes so I assumed that they won in

[00:04:57] Pretty sound fashion considering their booking Jade

[00:05:01] To be a star right now and Bianca is always good. So yeah

[00:05:06] Jade is being put in short decisive, but

[00:05:10] Marky matches meaning that she's she's being booked to look very good

[00:05:15] So they're obviously building her up getting used to being in a WWE ring for

[00:05:21] Future plans

[00:05:23] I think that's pretty obvious

[00:05:25] Yeah, I

[00:05:27] Seems the same place seems like she's improved this a little bit

[00:05:31] She's definitely getting

[00:05:34] I don't want to say she's getting better because I'm in place like I understand she was a little green, but she seems

[00:05:40] I mean don't get me wrong. She's still a little stiff, but not like she was before

[00:05:46] She's getting more relaxed and confident

[00:05:49] All good things

[00:05:50] I was gonna actually wear my Jade shirt that I just got but the sponsor was our official merchandise so that seemed kind of silly

[00:05:57] to wear something different

[00:06:00] But yeah, we'll see good stuff from Jade and I would just like to point out

[00:06:04] This paper view including the pre-show

[00:06:07] Only six matches

[00:06:11] Only six total ring time as I mean time spent in the ring was only about an hour and a half

[00:06:21] And this thing was it was a it was a great little show. I mean nothing

[00:06:25] Nothing like welcome everybody just joining us on TikTok by the way the start first TikTok live so bear with us with our technical difficulties

[00:06:35] But yeah, like I said it was a nice neat little show nothing

[00:06:38] It was obviously for the Saudi crowd because like some of these matches you could tell are which the Saudi shows are usually like that although no

[00:06:48] Big names that aren't currently on the roster this time like no Brock Lesnar no

[00:06:54] Stonecollo has don't I don't know that Stonecold's ever gone to a Saudi show. I assume he's made an appearance no taker

[00:07:01] But Randy Orton's big in Saudi

[00:07:04] Saudi Arabia holy shit, but we'll touch on that in a moment

[00:07:12] So the next match and technically the opener

[00:07:15] Live Morgan defeated Becky Lynch for the women's world championship

[00:07:22] I thought it was a decent match honestly for

[00:07:25] What it was because I think Becky's injured right? I remember that. Yeah, I saw this part yet

[00:07:30] I didn't enjoy it. It was nice sweet

[00:07:33] It was it was a good little and like I don't I don't mean this to be bad but like it was a good little match

[00:07:39] To get the time off lived look

[00:07:43] And again, I don't mean this to sound bad. I've seen live look better, but she was also wearing a

[00:07:48] Like a plethora body suit so I'm gonna let a little bit

[00:07:52] Yeah

[00:07:54] Which actually I saw a video on TikTok where she was talking about that body suit and how basically she killed it off after the match

[00:08:01] And it was like I will never wear this again. It was awful

[00:08:06] Yeah, I go in the mansion

[00:08:08] To be honest I didn't realize that it was in like a Saudi Arabia until I saw them come out in those like yeah

[00:08:14] The body suits the body suits are usually

[00:08:18] Yeah, you know what's funny though. I

[00:08:22] Remember when they did the first Saudi show and it was very

[00:08:25] I don't want to say off put it was jarring because we're just not used to seeing that but honestly they've gotten so creative with them

[00:08:32] I remember what there was one show they did in Saudi where the girls were wearing like t-shirts and leotards underneath

[00:08:40] It was yeah, yeah big t-shirts with like body suits underneath

[00:08:44] But I guess they've lowered the bar for like I guess now you can wear at least form fitting clothing as long as you can't see an ankle

[00:08:51] So we we wouldn't want anyone to get any ideas, but I'm just sitting there like

[00:08:59] I can still tell what's underneath there

[00:09:02] Yeah, I was saying honestly the biases seems more for building

[00:09:08] Not really more but like it's more suggesting

[00:09:11] Yeah, exactly because more like skin type to them versus like their normal gear

[00:09:17] I was thinking and again, this this is this is the law and custom of Saudi Arabia

[00:09:22] So I'm not here to tell anybody but it is a little strange when you consider the justification for because I'm like

[00:09:30] With anything

[00:09:32] wearing a skin type body suit like you said can be it's not more revealing but it it lends itself to a similar

[00:09:39] feel but

[00:09:42] Whatever and like you Lynch was wearing like a suit so I thought that was an interesting choice

[00:09:50] But then again somebody

[00:09:52] Was yeah corporate cane can you still wrestle in a suit all the time or at least in like a shirt and slacks

[00:09:58] So it's not unheard of and obviously it's their special pants because you will rip slacks in a second

[00:10:05] Yeah, it's like extra stretchy yeah just like jeans people that wrestle in jeans are wearing their wearing stretchy jeans because

[00:10:12] Yeah, you will rip them. Now, yeah, so live Morgan the live Morgan revenge tour is

[00:10:18] complete or is it?

[00:10:22] Because I guess they did a bit on raw where live kiss dumb to

[00:10:27] Yeah, good

[00:10:29] Which I haven't this this week I tell you everyone and I wish I could tell everyone why it's been such a crazy week

[00:10:35] But I am contractually obligated that I can't I cannot tell you yet, but hopefully

[00:10:42] By the time our next episode rolls around everything's a public out in the open and I can share with you the very very exciting news that is coming but for right now

[00:10:52] I can't

[00:10:54] So

[00:10:55] Deal with it like they deal with body suits and Saudi Arabia

[00:11:00] Anyway

[00:11:02] So our next match was a three way which I also thought was a legal and Saudi Arabia, but you learned new stuff every day

[00:11:09] That Samy Zane

[00:11:12] Defend his title

[00:11:16] Pass somebody commented on the other channel accidentally stream to oops

[00:11:23] Samy Zane successfully defended his intercontinental championship against Chad Gable and

[00:11:29] Bronson Reed who I'll be honest. I kind of

[00:11:33] To me if I like Bronson Reed was in the way during this match

[00:11:37] It did you could tell like he was the one that almost was put in but not really was part of the bit plan exactly because

[00:11:45] Because there's something going on with

[00:11:48] Babel and

[00:11:51] But yeah, Bronson Reed just kind of felt like he was there and no

[00:11:56] I mean I

[00:11:58] Personally I can take early Bronson Reed, but it's it's not my cup of tea, but like

[00:12:03] Nothing against the guy, but he did seem kind of shoehorned into this and the whole story was

[00:12:09] Otis and

[00:12:11] And Gable

[00:12:13] And that whole bit so I guess it was somebody else for Otis to hit. I don't know

[00:12:20] But like I said Samy Samy defended his championship so

[00:12:26] He's still the intercontinental title hold him

[00:12:29] And then our next match which I'm gonna say it

[00:12:36] Might have been the best match on the card

[00:12:40] At least for me

[00:12:41] Although maybe it was Cody and Logan, but was it the Nio Jackson? Yeah, and it wasn't because of Nio J. It's so worried don't worry

[00:12:49] Right we saw the finals of the queen of the ring tournament we saw Nio Jax

[00:12:55] The fee lier of alchiria

[00:12:57] And so this is an interesting one for me because I was thinking you know me I overthink this stuff

[00:13:03] It's still real to me damn it not really, but I do think a lot about psychology

[00:13:08] lier of alchiria, okay, I will rephrase that lier of alchiria

[00:13:13] Had the match of the night and Nio Jax was there doing her job mind you, but

[00:13:20] When lier was getting awesome

[00:13:22] Yeah, when lier when she was she was getting off-ense and it was believable

[00:13:26] Because you know for Nio to get off-ense and she basically just had to put her hand out and

[00:13:31] Limer would fall down

[00:13:33] Limer had to throw everything and it made sense there wasn't anything that looked phony and lier is good

[00:13:39] I've been singing lier surprises since the first time I saw her and she's got that X factor

[00:13:45] It makes you want to watch her

[00:13:49] I mean she's she's very good looking, but that there's more to it than that you know what I mean

[00:13:54] Yeah, well first saw her I didn't know like why a lot of people liked it hurt

[00:13:58] But after seeing her in the ring like she could rest a really good she was me like yosca in the way

[00:14:04] Where they like rest some really strong yeah and yet there's something very

[00:14:09] unique about like it's hard to say that lier of alchiria is the next something because

[00:14:15] If he kind of does everything in the lier of alchiria way so it's very enjoyable to watch her

[00:14:23] And this match in particular like I found myself in it because I'm like I

[00:14:27] Thought that lier of alchiria was gonna win Queen of the ring so obviously I was disappointed with the ending

[00:14:33] But it made sense, but here's the difference to shit on a w for a moment

[00:14:39] Here's the difference between a w and w w w w

[00:14:42] W w has nia jacks or f's lier of alchiria lier of alchiria is popular people like lier of

[00:14:50] But look at the size disparity it would be a one and a million shot for lier of alchiria to actually beat nia jacks and a fight

[00:14:58] When all nia jacks really has to do is you know

[00:15:02] Some o and drop her she's dead

[00:15:05] It looked that ending like I thought yeah exactly and it was a great but it was a great ending to a match

[00:15:11] A little nod to New York, Ozone are there too

[00:15:14] Yeah, it was which I mean makes sense same family and all

[00:15:20] But contrasted this match with

[00:15:23] You know where I'm going with this don't you

[00:15:27] So first 80 w women's world champion

[00:15:31] Rio not only did the 98 pound soaking wet

[00:15:36] Japanese joshi wrestler which they're only jack well, no that's not sure there are non-japanes joshi wrestler rest of us

[00:15:44] Reshworse non-joshi wrestlers so I was right the first time

[00:15:51] Not only did she win the world title first ever a w women's world champion but she beat nia la rose to do it

[00:16:00] beat

[00:16:02] Because that match was

[00:16:04] Fony or than a football bat as Jim cornet would say

[00:16:09] Like it made no sense whatsoever

[00:16:12] None none because in a okay and like I get it where are some times there are some times in real life

[00:16:18] For somebody who's smaller is going to be able to win a fight

[00:16:23] Not when there's not 98 pounds versus what is

[00:16:29] I don't know what nia la rose or ways but we're gonna say at least a buck and now she's at least 200

[00:16:36] Not Nila Nila's at least 200 does I mean Nila's a big person like

[00:16:43] But but it's worth noting that awesome Kong was bigger

[00:16:49] Oh, yeah, so I found that very interesting which awesome Kong is

[00:16:53] One in a million like that's that's not a that's not a typical human being but

[00:16:59] Which that's such a dichot when you hear awesome Kong not being a wrestler and you hear her speak

[00:17:05] It's such a jarring contrast because she's like actually a really bubbly sweet heart of a person

[00:17:11] And it's just so jarring to be like this is the woman that through gale Kim into a ring post repeatedly

[00:17:18] Yeah

[00:17:20] It's very

[00:17:22] Extremely yeah, because she was in glow wasn't she she played the show

[00:17:28] It's funny I watched glow because I mean obviously it's wrestling. I was gonna watch it but then I was like

[00:17:34] She looks so familiar and then I put it always it's awesome Kong or if she was known as karma in WWE wasn't she yeah

[00:17:44] Yeah, anyway

[00:17:47] So yeah, this match made sense and Laira Valqueria definitely got

[00:17:52] Costume of the night because I was pretty sweet. That was pretty cool

[00:17:56] Yeah, it was it was the best

[00:17:58] It was she won the costume contest. Oh

[00:18:03] Yeah, it was great match. I thought it was fantastic. The only thing I would have changed was the ending but that's just my personal

[00:18:10] I wanted Laira to win but Naya winning makes sense. It really does

[00:18:16] As does the next match which I would have been okay with any of these as this order never want an order never one king of the ring

[00:18:23] No, they made a point. They said one of the few accolades to a loot him was we got an incredible match which the only thing about this match is

[00:18:36] How much bigger Randy looked than Goon third?

[00:18:40] Yeah, it almost like Gunther was like getting smaller it does look like it

[00:18:46] He hasn't but I mean it did kind of look like that, but Randy Orton got we said this when he came back Randy

[00:18:53] I'm not saying he put his foot on the gas wink wink hint

[00:18:58] But if you failed a drug test, I wouldn't be shot

[00:19:02] Like I won't be the first time and I don't mean that disparagingly, but I mean I saw Randy Orton when he came back and I was like

[00:19:10] Jesus

[00:19:12] Even commentary had to say something about it

[00:19:17] Jordan I'm not gonna out your last name Jordan although if you're watching the super chat on you

[00:19:21] I mean if you're watching the live chat on YouTube, you can see it Gunther versus Randy clash of the castle for Goon third's crown

[00:19:29] I guess technically you could do that

[00:19:32] Although generally speaking no maybe there is precedent for that. I'm trying to think

[00:19:37] Is there precedent for

[00:19:40] Wrestling for the king of no way Xavier Woods put it up at least

[00:19:44] I think

[00:19:46] At least one time yeah at least one time he put it up. I don't remember I think he's yeah, he still want because they still

[00:19:51] Which Xavier Woods when in king of the ring that was a

[00:19:55] Yeah, that was mistake

[00:20:00] Again not to shit on Xavier Woods, but that was a mistake

[00:20:04] But anyway, I think the right decision was made because Gunther is your

[00:20:10] King Genera

[00:20:14] King of the ring king of the ring Genera ring Genera ring Genera King ring Genera something along those lines

[00:20:21] They're play with it. You know if they had to workshop Viking experience for a couple weeks at least so

[00:20:28] I actually saw

[00:20:30] A video about

[00:20:32] Haven't talked about

[00:20:34] And he's like this is awful and then says like well try it you see all goes it's like

[00:20:40] This is one you didn't have to workshop everyone had the same reaction the Viking experience and it's funny because he even said

[00:20:47] Was that I var

[00:20:49] Yeah, okay

[00:20:51] I get I get their names confused. I know which is which but I get their names mixed up

[00:20:55] He even said he was like this isn't a Disney land right? I'm like that's where my mind went

[00:20:59] The first time I saw Viking experience on my TV

[00:21:02] I was like that sounds like a ride at Disney world

[00:21:06] For sure

[00:21:09] That was hilarious, but yes, so Gunther won was a fantastic match. It was great

[00:21:17] Chopper's were sick as always the like I said the only thing it's kind of like

[00:21:22] It just and I'm not criticizing Gunther because he's I mean like damn he's he's in crazy shape

[00:21:29] Like good on him. It's just Randy's just a freak like that

[00:21:35] And Randy seriously put on some size yeah

[00:21:38] I just say Randy is a little bit slower than he was before but yeah, I could see shattered 20 pounds

[00:21:46] Solid fucking muscle

[00:21:50] There's a little bit more wish on those bones. Yeah, I didn't notice that which again it might be he might just purposefully be working a little bit slower now too

[00:21:57] Which makes all the sense in the world

[00:22:01] So anyway, then I finally are main event because like I said this is a very short paper view

[00:22:06] saw Cody Rhodes defend his undisputed WWE championship against the United States champion Logan Paul

[00:22:16] And it was it was good match. I'm getting a little tired of

[00:22:21] The Logan Paul always interfering spots, but it was kind of nice for him to get beat for once

[00:22:28] Yeah

[00:22:29] After doing it granted his title was an online but

[00:22:32] You know, I think it would be kind of cool though if they'd been a title versus title match in Cody won the US title too

[00:22:39] This he is the American

[00:22:41] I was there was

[00:22:43] He's going to win both titles. It's going to be a double champ

[00:22:46] Yeah, so it's not

[00:22:48] Well if you want to elevate the US title simultaneously and give it to the American nightmare right but yeah

[00:22:55] Not the end of the world by any stretch of the imagination like I said welcome to everybody joining us on YouTube and TikTok

[00:23:00] This is our first time in twitch. This is our first time live streaming on all three of these platforms

[00:23:05] So throw any questions or comments in the chat if you'd like and with that Cody defended his title

[00:23:12] And what was it pretty good match like I said it was nice to see

[00:23:16] Logan get some come up and finally I actually really liked the spot where Corey graves got in between him and Michael Cole

[00:23:23] Oh, yeah, that was really good. I thought that was a really nice subtle touch because Corey graves

[00:23:29] As somebody who's dislike Corey graves for a long time he's growing on me

[00:23:35] As a as a commentator yeah

[00:23:38] I think he was what you again. This is one of the

[00:23:43] One of the best parts about the postments there because even Michael Cole's lesson annoying

[00:23:48] Like everyone's lesson annoying

[00:23:49] Because they're just allowed to I guess they're just allowed to go out there and do their thing now

[00:23:55] So like Corey's not constantly overhealing

[00:23:58] Like he's still a heel commentator, but not nearly due to the degree that you used to

[00:24:02] Too much force before it was like which I can I can just imagine people in his ear hey Justin has a go and

[00:24:09] Our friend Justin from the spur of the moment podcast just jumped on our TikTok live. Yeah, we're doing TikTok lives now

[00:24:18] I know it's a little bare bones, but I'm still figuring it out

[00:24:23] But yeah, I thought that was cool spot the ringing answers are better the referee's even less annoying

[00:24:31] Yeah, too important I guess

[00:24:34] Less than a week buddy just as how long how how long have we been able to go live on TikTok literally less than a week

[00:24:42] I realized at the other day when I was trying to figure out something else for somebody else's podcast and I was like oh, I can go live

[00:24:51] So I can start my random TikTok live debates to with people what I want to start doing I want to just say people all the bait you on anything just for fun

[00:25:00] You pick aside all the big the other side just for fun

[00:25:03] Okay

[00:25:07] So yeah, that was it for King and Queen of the ring I

[00:25:12] Figured going through was gonna win King of the ring. I kind of saw that coming

[00:25:20] Alrighty, I think you had to but in a way, you know it made it made sense

[00:25:24] It made perfect sense, but what are you gonna do with them? You take the icy title off him, but you obviously don't want to

[00:25:30] Have him in world title contention to get beat so King of the ring is yeah, just not yet obviously

[00:25:35] Yeah, not yet. It's common

[00:25:40] It's common um do you have the card for

[00:25:45] Double and nothing or would you like me to pull it up?

[00:25:48] Yeah, I think I have it just hey

[00:25:54] Tony law the afternoon. What's your name right Tony? Tony? Tanya?

[00:25:59] Tonya hopefully pronounce that right welcome

[00:26:03] Hopefully like wrestling otherwise this is gonna be very confusing for you

[00:26:06] Have the matches but I don't have like the match or

[00:26:12] That's okay. I remember I was gonna say you watched it so I didn't spoil earlier

[00:26:17] I didn't watch I don't even know the card

[00:26:20] So this will be okay, okay

[00:26:21] This is a pre show

[00:26:23] Well, I don't blame you. It was the claim and a Brian Cage versus gates of agony

[00:26:31] What yeah?

[00:26:34] I think I who they were did you say gates of agony?

[00:26:38] Sorry gate gates. Oh, okay. I thought you were watching a different paper

[00:26:42] The first I get I was like what?

[00:26:47] It's like that's uh

[00:26:50] I mean normally I was gonna say normally isn't that a consensual activity but

[00:26:56] Well, I got I guess I guess not always but I didn't I didn't think they were in prison, but anyway

[00:27:01] Okay

[00:27:05] How can a gate be agonizing or agonized?

[00:27:10] Thanks

[00:27:12] Yeah, that's right up there was a that's right up there with Viking experience

[00:27:19] a log is like that. I will eat w

[00:27:22] That's true there are

[00:27:24] But anyway, so yes it was the

[00:27:27] It's not the bang bang scissor gang now. It's just the the acclaim scissor gang, right?

[00:27:35] No that's the other group that's

[00:27:39] Which quote guys guy

[00:27:42] Bing-bing gang versus death triangle that was the other group

[00:27:46] I can't yeah, I can't keep it straight anymore

[00:27:51] Anyway, I assume the gates lost yeah

[00:27:57] Who does he know what a twist?

[00:28:02] I like I saw they didn't see the pre show. I didn't realize you was a pre show

[00:28:06] Wait when did max caster when did max caster get in trouble for another rap that he did?

[00:28:12] Oh, that was late. It was recently but it wasn't this show right?

[00:28:16] It was a lot oh it was dynasty wasn't it?

[00:28:19] I think it was

[00:28:20] What you get okay so I'm gonna go to bat for max caster and start forgot to once again

[00:28:26] So the first time max caster got in trouble for a rap I said

[00:28:31] Like that's so incredibly stupid because that was on a w dark which at that was a tape show

[00:28:36] Which mean and Tony con said

[00:28:39] on

[00:28:39] In an interview that he edited that show

[00:28:43] So he knew it was out there

[00:28:45] He knew what the rap was and you would have to assume which actually with a w you can't assume this

[00:28:51] But if you

[00:28:53] Were intelligent and you were running a wrestling show and one of your talents did that sort of thing

[00:29:00] You would think that

[00:29:04] You would have them run it by you first just to make sure that it was gonna be appropriate

[00:29:09] Or at least not too bad so Tony con threw max caster under the bus when

[00:29:15] I don't know if he people on Twitter said oh

[00:29:18] It didn't happen again

[00:29:22] It's like the problem like he was like I'm going to like look at all his jokes before he say it but they happen again

[00:29:28] What he does that's but that's the truth Tony doesn't

[00:29:32] So

[00:29:34] Obviously he didn't before because he obviously didn't care until the Twitter mob started yelling

[00:29:40] So you would think that he would learn from that experience

[00:29:43] But obviously he didn't and I would like to point out that this time max caster did on a paper view

[00:29:48] Which you have to pay for

[00:29:52] to watch

[00:29:55] So the only way someone could have heard this is if they bought the paper view and put it on the internet

[00:30:01] Which is a violation of copyright law mind you or a

[00:30:05] W put it out on social media which yes, they

[00:30:08] They do

[00:30:11] But either way it is not max casters fault once again

[00:30:15] Just like everything the fault ultimately lies with Tony con stop blaming max caster for doing his gimmick and getting mad at him when you don't

[00:30:24] Have the proper oversight

[00:30:28] It's like if he has a problem with it he would show his side before he came out there

[00:30:34] Well, and here's the thing if I'm like I can assume max caster is making six figures at the very least

[00:30:39] If I'm paying somebody six figures

[00:30:43] I'm basing this just how often he's on TV

[00:30:47] All right, okay if I'm paying somebody six figures and they have a problem with me saying hey you can't say that on my television show

[00:30:54] I will take the six figures away

[00:30:57] And then we won't have a problem will we so

[00:31:00] And I'm sure max is not gonna be like yeah, I'm gonna throw away my six figure year income because I want to say a bad word

[00:31:09] Like come on yeah, of course not if Roman rains will go out and say suffer in suck attached

[00:31:19] Max caster cannot say something naughty

[00:31:24] But I digress what was the next match so that was I'd give that a star

[00:31:30] Just on paper

[00:31:33] The next one was Diana Parazo versus the thunder Rosa

[00:31:38] Is that a I think I read that was another pre show match

[00:31:41] Yeah, yeah, it was too

[00:31:43] Okay

[00:31:45] So let's think about this first again the out of Parazo

[00:31:49] Well Tony got a new toy but like again when I say logically I'm not talking Tony con logic

[00:31:54] I'm talking normal human being logic the out of Paraza was a big sign for them or so they portrayed it

[00:32:00] And thunder Rosa was two and thunder Rosa came into the company is the NWA women's world champion later would win the AEW women's championship

[00:32:09] So she's a two time world champion

[00:32:11] And

[00:32:13] Two pieces and she is now on a pre show match as you lost

[00:32:21] Against Diana Parazo who was now also on a pre show match and when did they sign her?

[00:32:26] What was that?

[00:32:27] It had like two three months ago

[00:32:29] I thought it might have been a little bit longer than that even but yeah, it wasn't it wasn't that much longer

[00:32:35] ago and it's like it's I seem to remember somebody saying something about

[00:32:39] You know particularly female wrestlers can sign to AEW get a push for a month and then just

[00:32:45] Founder oh wait that was me

[00:32:47] Because it just keeps happening

[00:32:50] Those

[00:32:51] It's almost like you can

[00:32:54] Figure out the booking pattern or something weird

[00:32:58] But you said thunder Rosa lost

[00:33:01] Yeah, that's what it says here

[00:33:03] They both need to just go to WWE particularly thunder Rosa

[00:33:08] Great of obviously has nothing for her so yeah, I'm sorry we're minors seeing her in

[00:33:15] Both of them and I think I think we need another billing air to get into wrestling because honestly

[00:33:20] If a third company popped up that was on par with AEW financially they put a AEW out of business

[00:33:28] I honestly can't believe I

[00:33:32] If you kind of nice of a billing airs walked in and been like hey TNA I you know I got a soft spot for you guys

[00:33:38] You know, let's let's throw some money TNAs away which actually looks like it looks like

[00:33:44] I meant to look something up before the show. I want to know who owns TNA now

[00:33:49] Because I have a suspicion

[00:33:54] So bear go go ahead and please tell us the next match while I look this up

[00:33:57] Sure, okay next one was

[00:34:02] Oh, it was oh will ask break versus Roger strong

[00:34:08] The first match of the paper view yeah first match. That was pretty good

[00:34:15] But but

[00:34:17] But we're asked right

[00:34:19] Who's their biggest signs since

[00:34:24] Brian Danielson or Adam Cole either pick

[00:34:28] Here

[00:34:29] Pick whichever one because they debut on the same night

[00:34:32] Yeah, like and he's on the opening match

[00:34:37] For a BS title yeah that's the part yeah after got about the title thing like the match was better than the actual boat

[00:34:50] Oh my god

[00:34:52] That's hilarious

[00:34:55] It was pretty good. I like it

[00:34:58] It wasn't okay. It was in the best go ask for a match, but it was

[00:35:04] More than decent

[00:35:06] Well, I mean and that makes sense because Roger strong is fantastic when he's not both like a moron, but

[00:35:13] And will ask break is good, but I just I'm just not seeing a w

[00:35:22] Well, I haven't see we haven't seen this with any of their new sign stars. They're not

[00:35:28] They're signing stars and then booking them like underneath talent and it just doesn't make any sense yeah it doesn't

[00:35:37] Because the belt he's five for is like a make card belt

[00:35:44] At least it should be

[00:35:46] Okay, so apparently TNA is owned by a private individual which doesn't who is this guy?

[00:35:54] Oh, no, he's the president. Oh, no, he's he's with anthem

[00:35:57] So I guess they're still owned by anthem. Okay, I had a theory that because not not to get off topic, but while I'm thinking about it

[00:36:07] Everybody is probably well aware that Jordan race showed up at NXT and

[00:36:12] Is gonna be and is gonna be competing for the NXT women's championship so I thought to myself I said I wonder if TNA is owned by

[00:36:21] A company that's also under like the TKOMbrella, but apparently not

[00:36:25] Because TNA is still owned by anthem so I don't know

[00:36:34] But I thought that would make sense because I've I've suspected I've said it on the show for a long time

[00:36:37] There's at least a friendly working relationship

[00:36:41] Between TNA and WW right now, which makes sense because WW can get some

[00:36:46] Pops and it's not like there are direct competitor and TNA obviously benefits from having

[00:36:51] Jordan Gray show up with her belt and a lot of people aren't out saying like we might get Joe Hendry in NXT and that would be amazing

[00:36:59] I was a little puffer that

[00:37:02] Everyone would pop for that

[00:37:05] And it would be great how they could tease it. They could be right

[00:37:09] I believe in the to say his name and he appears

[00:37:14] That would be fantastic. I think it's coming honestly this Jordan Gray showing up in NXT shows me that okay

[00:37:21] There's clearly a relationship there

[00:37:23] This isn't a lot of

[00:37:27] Well and and to give a W credit that might be because triple H has a wrestling mind right

[00:37:33] And he's probably been chomping at the bit to do a proper

[00:37:37] Cross-promotion stuff for a while and it was him they got a tuition thunder ligor in NXT

[00:37:42] Oh yeah, that was you granted for one match but still I

[00:37:47] Think you're gonna and New Japan has got to be really really sore in AEW because if they don't take their talent outright

[00:37:55] They'd book them on their show like jobbers

[00:37:58] And yeah, and what are they getting return like New Japan's to having much greater success with

[00:38:04] Or I don't know that they're having greater success, but they're having probably

[00:38:07] I would imagine it's a better relationship because they're getting more TNA guys to come over to Japan

[00:38:13] And I think New Japan learned their lesson when they were doing that kind of semi-exclusive deal with ring of honor

[00:38:19] And ring of honor was hot them. Let's let's be fair. It was it was it was but they kind of learned it you know like man we could

[00:38:27] I think it honestly might have been when they got Jericho there

[00:38:30] They were like wait a minute. This whole exclusivity thing really doesn't make sense because we're in another country

[00:38:35] Like why shouldn't we be able to get Chris Jericho and you know and I think WWE under Triple H

[00:38:44] They'd be a lot more receptive because could you imagine Randy Orton showing up at the Tokyo don't

[00:38:50] The place would go nuts

[00:38:54] That place would go absolute bonkers

[00:38:58] I mean it just about any WWE star even a mid-carter. It would still like

[00:39:05] I think that would be a really good for them even the mid-carers. That will at least to get the name out there

[00:39:10] It'd be great for the mid-carter. Just remember

[00:39:14] Like the WWE

[00:39:16] Mid-carters and lower end guys would do in between contract rounds or something because like James Gibson was a legend in ring of honor

[00:39:25] But on WWE was JB Noble he was a jober

[00:39:30] You know, so yeah, I think it obviously can't do that with ring of honor anymore, but he got TNA

[00:39:37] So yeah, I could definitely see

[00:39:40] I could definitely see some lower end because now I'm waiting now. I'm gonna watch impact because I'm wondering if

[00:39:47] Oh damn it who's the NXT woman? I know who she is, but I keep forgetting her name. Roxanna Perez

[00:39:53] Okay

[00:39:55] Like Roxanna Perez just might show up on an episode of impact

[00:40:01] Maybe I don't know we'll see

[00:40:04] I mean, I know they tape there's an advanced so maybe not but

[00:40:11] I don't know what the point is is that now their speculation so TNA is gonna get some rub

[00:40:18] And I mean they planned it so they may have pre-taped her before the live episode

[00:40:23] Not the door and gray showed up on but I digress anyway back to uh

[00:40:28] Oh, the

[00:40:31] All excrement wrestling

[00:40:34] huh

[00:40:40] This was the return of the

[00:40:43] So I guess

[00:40:47] It was him that's though. I know I know, but

[00:40:51] M j f they're biggest home-grown star their second biggest star ever in the company

[00:40:57] Yeah, comes back after the opening match

[00:41:00] And not at the end. Not at the end. Yeah, yeah, that would do make sense. That would be a good like nice go home type.

[00:41:10] That's how you can resurrect Swerve's title run. Oh, yeah.

[00:41:16] As MJF can come in and be like, I don't even know who you are.

[00:41:21] When I was carrying this company on my back, you were just some guy that showed up and was playing around with the big guy.

[00:41:29] I can't remember his name either. It's been so long since I've seen him.

[00:41:33] You know, like that.

[00:41:35] Yeah.

[00:41:37] But oh my god, really? I didn't know that's when they did it.

[00:41:41] Yeah, there's like 28 minutes in.

[00:41:44] I think he really.

[00:41:45] The first match was 28 minutes long.

[00:41:48] The first match was like.

[00:41:51] Oh, we're talking about what?

[00:41:55] Yeah.

[00:41:56] Oh my god.

[00:41:59] Yeah, with a will in the Roger Schromn.

[00:42:02] This is about 20 minutes.

[00:42:04] I don't mind that that match was 20 minutes, but for the opener.

[00:42:07] Anyway, I'm.

[00:42:12] It's going to be one of those podcasts.

[00:42:16] Anyway.

[00:42:19] So, MJF what what did Maxwell have to say to the people?

[00:42:24] For why remember, it was the most like he was coming back saying he's going to be more of a hill.

[00:42:28] He's not going to trust no one.

[00:42:30] You know, so he's going to go back to his roots.

[00:42:33] So like we predicted.

[00:42:35] Yeah.

[00:42:36] Well, that's what he fits mostly.

[00:42:38] He never was really a great baby face.

[00:42:41] No, never.

[00:42:43] And it's weird because MJF is one of those.

[00:42:46] Because in many ways, he is a baby face because the crowd loves him, but they love him for being a heel.

[00:42:51] Yeah, exactly.

[00:42:54] But the only way you salvage that is to just lean more into the heel, which a lot of people can't do.

[00:42:59] See him pump could do it.

[00:43:00] MJF can do it.

[00:43:02] Jericho can do it because that's what he's doing, although he's doing the opposite.

[00:43:07] Yeah.

[00:43:10] He's being an obnoxious baby face in order to be a heel because A, W, doesn't know how to book baby faces and heels, but I digress.

[00:43:21] And after that next mesmerized, the Lucia brothers and pop versus

[00:43:28] with his versus.

[00:43:32] Oh, that was verse.

[00:43:34] Oh, just really no.

[00:43:39] It was all you're thinking of it.

[00:43:49] Hello everyone who just joined us on TikTok and or YouTube.

[00:43:52] Any of you guys watch double and nothing?

[00:43:55] Because I know I didn't.

[00:44:00] Okay, see it.

[00:44:02] It was the Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Jay White and Austin Gun.

[00:44:06] You called them done.

[00:44:09] Was this match booked in any way, shape or form prior?

[00:44:12] Because I don't remember seeing anything.

[00:44:14] I'm not too sure.

[00:44:17] Like, I remember it may have been a little bit, but I don't mean like the week before.

[00:44:22] I mean, oh, okay, I'm not too sure about it.

[00:44:26] But stupid.

[00:44:27] I don't, I don't consider a week before to be booked.

[00:44:30] I consider that thrown together, but.

[00:44:33] It was okay, match life from my remember.

[00:44:39] I mean, everybody involved in that can wrestle so it's not like it would have been a

[00:44:44] stinker per se, but my biggest problem with you.

[00:44:47] They feel like it like they all jell together.

[00:44:50] That well, especially like J White.

[00:44:54] Yeah, which J White is he's another example of a guy who had incredible

[00:45:00] matches in New Japan.

[00:45:01] There for that one time that he almost legitimately got his ass kicked by Josh Barnav.

[00:45:05] That's a very funny.

[00:45:07] So I wasn't having a lot of, oh, so that was it was actually him and juice.

[00:45:12] I believe.

[00:45:13] Yeah, he and juice.

[00:45:14] Travis and we're wrestling each other for the in,

[00:45:16] IWGP US title.

[00:45:19] And okay, this, this wasn't technically their fault, but they should have known better.

[00:45:25] It does somehow some way the guard rails weren't anchored down like that all.

[00:45:30] And in a bunch of matches, previous people were throwing each other in a guard where

[00:45:33] rails and the guard rails were like going into the crowd, the hitting people.

[00:45:38] So you would think that they would have had the common sense to stop doing guard

[00:45:42] rail spots, but no, J2 and credit to J White.

[00:45:46] You'll see why coming up here.

[00:45:48] So one of them, I think J White threw juice into the guard rail in front of the

[00:45:53] amounts table and the ended up knocking JR out of his chair.

[00:45:57] And that this was, yeah, it was an accident.

[00:46:00] But so, and you can hear it on comment, you can probably YouTube this and find

[00:46:06] that Josh Barnav's headset is so long and he says, oh, you don't fuck up now.

[00:46:10] And he stands up and J White to his credit keeps healing it because he gets in

[00:46:16] the ring and like, taunts Josh and then when Josh stands up, he rolls out of the ring

[00:46:20] on the other side and likes runs away from him.

[00:46:23] But apparently they talked to JR afterwards and apologized and, you know, all that

[00:46:28] and apparently JR just said it's like, well, you should have known better.

[00:46:33] Like obviously because they'd done, they'd used the guard rail before in their

[00:46:37] match.

[00:46:38] So the first time they should have been like assuming they didn't watch any of

[00:46:41] the other matches where they happened the first time they would, oh shit.

[00:46:44] Okay, next the guard rail spot because we don't want to hurt anyone for real.

[00:46:49] But yeah, it's a very funny moment.

[00:46:52] Once I knew, I first of all was freaking out because JR took a pretty

[00:46:55] hard spill to the floor.

[00:46:57] But once it's that, once it was pretty obvious he was okay, then it

[00:47:02] then it became quite funny.

[00:47:04] But because Josh, Josh just stands up and he's like, you don't fuck

[00:47:08] up now.

[00:47:09] I wouldn't fight Josh Barnav.

[00:47:13] No, he's ashril legit fire.

[00:47:16] I was going to say, and I mean, even if he wasn't, I still wouldn't fight

[00:47:20] Josh Barnav.

[00:47:21] No, no way.

[00:47:23] Josh Barnav is like, no, I'm good.

[00:47:27] Nope.

[00:47:30] Like I see his actual fights.

[00:47:32] He's very good.

[00:47:34] Like even he's kind of like in the sense that like I wouldn't fight

[00:47:38] Mike Tyson when Mike Tyson was 75.

[00:47:41] Like, I'm, no, I'm not.

[00:47:46] Unless he's in a wheelchair, then I might have a fighting chance.

[00:47:49] I'd fight Mike Tyson if his hands were cuffed behind his back.

[00:47:56] I'd survive that.

[00:47:58] Not saying I would win.

[00:47:59] And just saying I would survive.

[00:48:00] Even then you'll bite yourself.

[00:48:02] I'll lose it here, but I'll win.

[00:48:12] Did you sweat a lot today?

[00:48:14] Yeah.

[00:48:16] It's a little faulty.

[00:48:19] Anyway.

[00:48:21] Oh, who on that match?

[00:48:25] It was Ashram.

[00:48:28] The Bing Bing game.

[00:48:32] So they retain their titles, yes?

[00:48:35] Yeah, because juice Robinson came out.

[00:48:39] Oh, okay.

[00:48:40] So juice came back.

[00:48:41] Yeah.

[00:48:42] I came out.

[00:48:43] He hit, um, pop.

[00:48:45] And that's how he won.

[00:48:47] Did it go?

[00:48:48] Okay.

[00:48:49] J white one.

[00:48:50] You know what?

[00:48:51] I'll take that because I'm glad to see juice as back because he had a back injury

[00:48:54] Did he not?

[00:48:55] Yeah.

[00:48:56] Very, I mean very, very serious.

[00:48:59] So I'm glad that he's back and well.

[00:49:02] And he might breathe some new life into that.

[00:49:05] Bang, bang, go.

[00:49:07] So, please.

[00:49:10] I think though.

[00:49:12] Here's the funny thing about juice Robinson.

[00:49:14] So for those who don't remember, he was in NXT and it's been so long.

[00:49:17] I can't even remember C.J. Parker.

[00:49:20] Yes, that was his name.

[00:49:23] And I only remember that because he was involved in one of my favorite matches ever, which was Kevin Owens in XT debut.

[00:49:31] And it was good match, but it was a squash.

[00:49:34] But I got massive respect for juice Robinson because he got released from WWE.

[00:49:38] And then he went to Japan and instead of just being like co-sing on his old WWE name,

[00:49:43] he actually went through the New Japan Dojo.

[00:49:46] And clearly came out better on the other end.

[00:49:50] It did.

[00:49:51] Way better, way better.

[00:49:53] So I've got mad respect for juice Robinson.

[00:49:57] Yeah, I was never a fan of this but I can't deny he did it could be working.

[00:50:04] That's that's what made me a fan because I saw him in New Japan.

[00:50:08] I was like, oh, it's C.J. Parker and at first I kind of chuckled that his name,

[00:50:12] but then they told me the story and I'm like, and then I looked it up because you know,

[00:50:15] you can only believe so much.

[00:50:17] It's like, no, he actually went through the process of training at the New Japan Dojo,

[00:50:21] like the whole process lived in the Dojo, did the whole young lion thing.

[00:50:25] And like, I'm like, you know what respect?

[00:50:29] So yeah, juice is back.

[00:50:31] Juice in MJ for back.

[00:50:32] Hopefully things will look up for AEW because as much as I, as much as I should on them,

[00:50:37] I want them to be better.

[00:50:39] That's why it's so frustrating because like, for a minute there you expected the goofy nonsense from TNA.

[00:50:45] So you're just kind of like, yeah, it's TNA but like, he W just needs to be better, right?

[00:50:51] It started out good.

[00:50:53] They start out.

[00:50:54] It was really good.

[00:50:55] You know, like, I'm okay.

[00:50:56] This is like, Ashrol and Perth.

[00:50:58] But now they started out with one and a half million viewers.

[00:51:02] And anyway.

[00:51:06] Okay, the next one was Serena Deep and Tommy Storm.

[00:51:11] This was like not the best match.

[00:51:15] But like, I like both, especially Serena Deep.

[00:51:18] She's really good.

[00:51:20] But it just didn't yell to go that well.

[00:51:22] I don't know why.

[00:51:23] I don't think the whole angle did because the sense I got from it.

[00:51:26] They clearly couldn't decide who they wanted to be the healer and who they wanted to be the baby face.

[00:51:30] Even though Serena Deep absolutely should have been the baby face.

[00:51:35] Especially as cold as this match was not to say he didn't have any build up.

[00:51:39] But they kept going back and forth like one week Tony storm is booked like a baby face.

[00:51:43] And then she's booked like a heal, but Tony Storm is a heal right now.

[00:51:47] Yeah.

[00:51:48] And I said it before I'll say it again.

[00:51:50] This is for TikTok.

[00:51:51] Tony Storm is one of those people where what I'm going to say,

[00:51:55] I know I'm wrong.

[00:51:57] But I want to understand Tony Storm is one of those people who everybody was

[00:52:04] even when she was NXT in NXT.

[00:52:07] Everybody was raving about Tony Storm and I watched him or matches and I'm just like,

[00:52:11] I mean it's all right but I'm not seeing what everyone else is seeing here.

[00:52:20] And it's like that with me in Keith Lee though too.

[00:52:24] So this isn't a girl thing.

[00:52:26] This is just a, I don't, I don't see it.

[00:52:30] Clearly there's something there because people are into it.

[00:52:33] But I just don't see it and I still don't see it with Tony Storm.

[00:52:39] I made it like her more now than I ever did before like Susan WB.

[00:52:45] See, I like her more now than ever before.

[00:52:49] But that's because the character it was at least different.

[00:52:53] I was at least entering enough to be like what is that?

[00:52:56] I don't laugh at it now.

[00:52:58] I did laugh the first time she said tits out and watch out for the shoot.

[00:53:02] Yeah, it's that for yeah.

[00:53:05] I laughed the first time and now it's gotten a little obnoxious and the black and white things a little obnoxious.

[00:53:12] But you know, it's it's whatever I know people are entertained by it.

[00:53:16] So I'm not dog and I'm probably the,

[00:53:18] It's probably the one thing in the women's division that's actually getting viewers right now.

[00:53:23] So I'm not going to hate on it too much.

[00:53:29] So I assume Tony Storm won.

[00:53:31] Oh, yeah, she did.

[00:53:33] But again, they bring Serena Dback from not being on television for over a year and put her in

[00:53:39] a world title match and have her lose.

[00:53:44] I think it makes sense because like,

[00:53:47] I don't know, she should've been the mess to begin with, you know, so I should have to first buy.

[00:53:53] Well, it should've been Mercedes Monet.

[00:53:57] But which will get into that because you'll notice a lot of the artwork.

[00:54:01] So I might as well also call this the funeral of sort of Strickland, almost called him Shane Strickland.

[00:54:08] Um, of sort of Strickland.

[00:54:10] Because you'll notice on the poster, at least one of the posters I saw,

[00:54:15] Mercedes Monet is front and center and Swerve with the AEW World Heavyweight Championship on his shoulder is off to the side.

[00:54:25] So not only is Mercedes at the time of that poster being may not only is she not a champion,

[00:54:32] it's he's going for the mid-car girls title.

[00:54:37] Yeah, the TBS champion.

[00:54:42] Which what won't we'll get there.

[00:54:45] We'll get there.

[00:54:46] Yeah.

[00:54:47] Believe you me will get there.

[00:54:49] But so Tony Storm is still the AEW women's who's next.

[00:54:54] The next one was ours, Cassidy and uh...

[00:54:58] Oh, no.

[00:54:59] I'm sorry.

[00:55:00] Who's next for the women's world title?

[00:55:02] I'll bet money it's will.

[00:55:03] It's going to be will.

[00:55:08] I would think so.

[00:55:11] I do because she just lost the title and that's Tony Khan's booking mind.

[00:55:16] He just lost the mid-car title.

[00:55:17] So let's put her in the intention for the world title.

[00:55:20] I had a reho's going to come back.

[00:55:23] Should be everybody.

[00:55:28] Show one the TBS and

[00:55:31] Women's World title.

[00:55:33] Should be the first double champ.

[00:55:35] First double champ ever in that women's division.

[00:55:38] Anyway, next match please.

[00:55:41] Yeah, it was uh...

[00:55:42] Orange Cassidy and Trent Barrow.

[00:55:45] Stop.

[00:55:46] I don't even.

[00:55:47] Why was that not that for it?

[00:55:50] Why would that not be the opening match?

[00:55:52] Seriously.

[00:55:54] Seriously.

[00:55:55] You're also on the opening match and then in the middle of your show.

[00:56:02] First of all, the Shining.

[00:56:04] This shouldn't even been on paper.

[00:56:05] This is a rampage main event.

[00:56:07] Pat, fast.

[00:56:08] It was.

[00:56:10] I fast for it.

[00:56:11] I sold it and then it was OK, whatever.

[00:56:14] And we know.

[00:56:15] I didn't mean to wash.

[00:56:16] And we know who won.

[00:56:17] So.

[00:56:18] Yeah, it's orange.

[00:56:19] Yeah.

[00:56:20] So anyway, I am very pleased to hear that you've got a lot of

[00:56:24] things.

[00:56:25] I'm very pleased to hear that you fast forwarded.

[00:56:27] Do this match, kids.

[00:56:28] Yeah, I had to.

[00:56:29] Just think just think about this first second though.

[00:56:32] You paid $50 to watch this show.

[00:56:35] And you would have and you would rather fast forward through part of it.

[00:56:40] I too.

[00:56:42] I'm just throwing that out there.

[00:56:46] It's all I'm saying, Tony.

[00:56:48] It's all I'm saying.

[00:56:49] Was Tony con present on this paper?

[00:56:51] No.

[00:56:53] No.

[00:56:54] OK, it's just making sure because I wanted an office still at the necklicks on.

[00:56:57] In a way he was, but not present, but this sort of clip of him.

[00:57:00] Yeah, yeah.

[00:57:01] I was for the young books.

[00:57:04] Oh, God, there's another anarchy in the arena matches and there.

[00:57:12] Yeah, it was.

[00:57:13] It was honestly the worst one.

[00:57:16] Well, who to thought?

[00:57:19] Who to thought a concept?

[00:57:21] That's been done way too much.

[00:57:24] That's something that realistically should be done like once every four years.

[00:57:31] Yeah.

[00:57:32] Instead, they do it four times a year and some fashion.

[00:57:37] But otherwise we're pretty decent.

[00:57:40] I liked it.

[00:57:41] But this one was a much.

[00:57:42] Anyway, what was the, what was the next match after pockets?

[00:57:48] The one derog one?

[00:57:51] It was wide through J and hook.

[00:57:55] Was it a three way?

[00:57:57] Yeah, what was the one with Shibada?

[00:58:01] What was Shibada wasn't it?

[00:58:03] Shibada, yeah.

[00:58:04] That's who was there.

[00:58:06] Shibubi.

[00:58:07] I guess Jim Cornett and Brian last have been referring to a Mishapupee.

[00:58:12] And first, that was like why?

[00:58:14] Like most Jim Cornett nicknames it's growing on me.

[00:58:17] So now I find myself going, Shibubi.

[00:58:20] Shibubi.

[00:58:21] It was okay.

[00:58:23] Like I left a certain part of it.

[00:58:26] Like Jericho, he had like a bag of dice.

[00:58:30] It's their dumb tax.

[00:58:32] It was kind of funny.

[00:58:35] I mean, it's the F-C-W belt.

[00:58:38] So I will let, I will let a lot of that slide just by virtue of the title.

[00:58:43] Yeah.

[00:58:44] I was back too, it was big go.

[00:58:47] Yeah.

[00:58:48] Yeah, he was in there for a bit of, yeah, put through a table with hook, horsey name.

[00:58:56] The hook, pull into a table.

[00:58:58] Of course he did.

[00:59:03] And so Jericho was taking with him.

[00:59:05] Yeah.

[00:59:06] Yeah.

[00:59:07] It was just like a fun match.

[00:59:09] Obviously Shibubi and like, towards the beginning.

[00:59:12] So not like this for him.

[00:59:15] I've got a small gripe that might ruin something on AEW television for some people.

[00:59:20] Apparently they're doing this bit where Shibubi doesn't speak English.

[00:59:28] So the bit is though, is that he's using his iPhone translator to talk except every time he does it.

[00:59:40] Inactivity.

[00:59:41] No.

[00:59:42] They're trying to take a soft tick talk.

[00:59:48] Okay, that's interesting.

[00:59:50] So inactivity detected.

[00:59:53] Sorry about that.

[00:59:54] Vokes tick talk would be stupid.

[00:59:57] It was like, it's okay.

[00:59:58] So every time Shibubi does that bit though, he doesn't type anything into the phone.

[01:00:03] He just hits a button.

[01:00:06] So it's not translating.

[01:00:08] It's just like he can't talk.

[01:00:11] He's like he's Stephen Hawking the thing.

[01:00:13] Got me see what I'm saying.

[01:00:15] And I'm just like, okay, and again, this is me.

[01:00:19] This is me being picky here, but again, logic.

[01:00:23] If you're using a translator app, you have to type in what you want to say.

[01:00:28] Him just sitting there with the button makes it look funny.

[01:00:32] Like they're doing it for a gag.

[01:00:36] I don't get the joke.

[01:00:39] Because it's clearly a joke.

[01:00:40] I just don't get it.

[01:00:41] Yeah, I think he does speak English for a little bit.

[01:00:47] He would speak a little bit.

[01:00:49] Yeah, but I don't know.

[01:00:54] I don't know.

[01:00:57] Anyway.

[01:00:59] That's the next.

[01:01:01] Oh, that's the next one.

[01:01:04] Oh John Moxley versus, what is it?

[01:01:10] Oh, can I escape to Keshe though?

[01:01:14] Yeah.

[01:01:15] I bet that was actually decent.

[01:01:17] It was.

[01:01:18] I was surprised he didn't bleed though.

[01:01:21] So wow.

[01:01:22] He didn't bleed.

[01:01:24] Yeah.

[01:01:25] Well, he pops the knife.

[01:01:26] New Japan probably told him he couldn't get blood on their title.

[01:01:29] Wow, he didn't bleed really.

[01:01:35] Yeah, it was no blood.

[01:01:37] Did he test positive for something?

[01:01:40] Oh, that's my son.

[01:01:43] I don't mean like that.

[01:01:45] I mean just like they're a great number of bloodborne pathogens.

[01:01:50] My friend not all of them are not all of them are the result of nefarious activity.

[01:01:56] Some things like maybe he had a parvo or something.

[01:02:00] I don't know.

[01:02:02] Yeah, it was like that was the most surprising thing about the match.

[01:02:06] It was like, it was a good match.

[01:02:09] It's like, wow, we did double tap there.

[01:02:12] But it's like a incomplete not one little cut, not the.

[01:02:18] Did the Keshe to bleed?

[01:02:22] No, no, we did.

[01:02:28] Do you think maybe they were told they couldn't because they were going to do the ad

[01:02:32] are keenly arena match?

[01:02:34] That could be the case.

[01:02:36] It would have been the first time ever.

[01:02:38] I think that was the first time I saw the match.

[01:02:40] It was with an edge and stuff.

[01:02:42] Edge and not another guy.

[01:02:44] They did a cage match?

[01:02:46] Yeah, okay.

[01:02:48] All right.

[01:02:50] I want to ask you wrote what the whole bunch of notes on.

[01:02:54] Is that one next?

[01:02:56] The next one is.

[01:03:00] Yeah.

[01:03:02] Oh, I assume I assume Moxley retained his.

[01:03:06] IWGP championship.

[01:03:08] Okay, he did.

[01:03:10] It moxley won.

[01:03:12] Go audit.

[01:03:14] All right.

[01:03:15] So the next one was the cage match?

[01:03:17] Yep.

[01:03:18] It was Malachi versus Adam Copeland.

[01:03:21] It was a good, good match until like the end in part.

[01:03:29] It, I just honestly, I saw it like three times a row and asked to them get it.

[01:03:34] Did the lights go out?

[01:03:36] Oh, yeah, but that was for a different reason.

[01:03:40] But it was the spot where he had Malachi on the table with like the barbed wire around him and then

[01:03:48] Ash just like jumped down and broke his legs.

[01:03:53] Like he literally jumped down.

[01:03:56] He got a lot of context.

[01:04:00] So first of all, who's Edge?

[01:04:03] Oh, I mean, Adam, I've been coming as like 12 years.

[01:04:07] I just, he's Edge, right?

[01:04:11] Oh, he broke his legs.

[01:04:15] Seriously?

[01:04:16] Some kind of bone or a frascious bone is like.

[01:04:19] But like he did like to move almost,

[01:04:22] oh, God, what's his guy?

[01:04:24] I mean, the cool the grass.

[01:04:27] Okay, the double foot stomped yeah.

[01:04:30] Yeah, he almost did something like that.

[01:04:32] But it was like he was doing like elbow into like Malachi.

[01:04:37] But it didn't look that way.

[01:04:39] It looked literally like he stood up on top of the cage and it jumped down with his arm out and that's it.

[01:04:47] And I was like, why?

[01:04:49] I never seen Edge do it ever.

[01:04:51] Other than it was just going to like buy a splash or something like that.

[01:04:56] But oh, so we learned his lesson.

[01:05:01] The soon he did and looked at harm.

[01:05:03] Okay, it looked like he just stepped down and I'm both his feet.

[01:05:08] And his arm was over Malachi, the table moving in broke.

[01:05:13] But so he landed feet first.

[01:05:15] Yeah, people of course he broke.

[01:05:18] Well, of course he broke his leg.

[01:05:21] I don't, I'm not laughing at the prize injury, but I mean, it's.

[01:05:25] No, no.

[01:05:26] But I'll just lose.

[01:05:29] Leg injuries man.

[01:05:31] Leg injuries are gnarly, dude.

[01:05:34] Like I've seen those gym videos.

[01:05:36] This is about to this day.

[01:05:37] I'm still paranoid when I do the leg press.

[01:05:40] We've, we've all seen that video.

[01:05:43] Yeah, I remember the worst one I saw was triple H.

[01:05:47] We had like his knee or something like that.

[01:05:51] When he tore his quad.

[01:05:53] Yeah.

[01:05:54] Oh.

[01:05:57] I was like the edge through some purpose to get out of this contract.

[01:06:01] No, I'm just.

[01:06:06] It's like as much matches I've seen with edge.

[01:06:10] I never see him do that move ever.

[01:06:12] How hot of him when we told you to go home, we met in the match.

[01:06:17] And then there's that gnarly UFC video where the guy does the leg kick and he breaks his.

[01:06:23] Oh, yeah.

[01:06:25] He just breaks his leg.

[01:06:28] Yeah, like he's really really good.

[01:06:31] He's an amazing guy.

[01:06:33] But the guy broke his leg on Sean Jones leg, I think.

[01:06:38] Yeah, yeah, he did.

[01:06:40] Oh, and then he goes to land and then he goes to step down and it's just not there.

[01:06:47] Yeah.

[01:06:48] And then some guy in the NBA did similar.

[01:06:52] Oh, yeah.

[01:06:53] I saw that.

[01:06:54] I can't watch that one.

[01:06:55] Oh, that one's an artery.

[01:06:57] That one's an artery.

[01:06:59] Yeah.

[01:07:00] I'm like your foot's not supposed to go that direction.

[01:07:03] Oh, well, I hope he's.

[01:07:07] I mean, obviously, he's not okay, but like I hope he's.

[01:07:10] Yeah, and he still continued to match.

[01:07:13] They still went on for at least some of the other.

[01:07:15] Oh, okay.

[01:07:16] So maybe he just had like a fracture.

[01:07:18] Yeah, it was a fracture, but it looked really bad.

[01:07:21] Well, he's lucky because that cage is what 20 feet.

[01:07:25] Probably 10 15 maybe.

[01:07:27] Yeah, at least 10.

[01:07:30] Yeah, that's.

[01:07:31] Although when I granted, I was much younger.

[01:07:34] I used to jump off a 13 foot roof and I would not be fine.

[01:07:37] So maybe he's.

[01:07:39] Maybe he's all right.

[01:07:42] I hope he didn't look all right to be honest.

[01:07:44] I was.

[01:07:45] I doubt he was.

[01:07:46] Well, I'll put it to you this way.

[01:07:48] I wouldn't jump off a 13 foot roof today.

[01:07:52] I mean, like, unless I'm being chased by somebody and then, like.

[01:07:56] Yeah, but I wouldn't do it for fun.

[01:08:01] Yeah.

[01:08:02] The lights went out and.

[01:08:04] Of course, things I return.

[01:08:06] Again, was the gang girl.

[01:08:09] Oh, gang girl.

[01:08:10] Oh, yes, that was.

[01:08:13] So that's actually a really interesting call back though.

[01:08:16] So to help Edgwin.

[01:08:19] He won, but I don't know if I think he's going to probably not be.

[01:08:26] He's going to be out for a bit.

[01:08:28] Yeah, I would imagine.

[01:08:30] Oh, that's too bad.

[01:08:36] Yeah, that's really too bad.

[01:08:39] It was a good match just that I used to understand why do he.

[01:08:43] Do that like he could any move, but just jumped down.

[01:08:51] Was it better than soup dogs, elbow?

[01:08:56] I guess it was.

[01:08:59] I don't know that elbow was pretty stiff.

[01:09:01] It was good.

[01:09:02] Good.

[01:09:03] I just remember feeling sorry for me as I was like, Oh,

[01:09:07] see actually like did an elbow drop right to a start.

[01:09:12] Yeah.

[01:09:14] Anyway, so Adam won, but yeah,

[01:09:23] we'll most likely be out for a minute.

[01:09:25] I think he would be like, the way he was walking and like he looked

[01:09:30] He was going to cry.

[01:09:32] That might have been one of those like just have to make it to the rap.

[01:09:37] Just have to make it to the rap.

[01:09:38] Just have to make it to the rap.

[01:09:40] And then maybe he collapsed.

[01:09:42] Like backstage.

[01:09:43] I like.

[01:09:44] Okay.

[01:09:46] It looked painful.

[01:09:48] Yeah.

[01:09:49] Or maybe it was an injury like because RVD broke his

[01:09:52] ankle on a baseball slide back in ECW and he said,

[01:09:55] like I've seen the match.

[01:09:57] He finished it and then he didn't think anything was wrong.

[01:10:00] And then he said, Then he took his boot off.

[01:10:02] And he said, He said it didn't hurt.

[01:10:04] Telly took his boot off.

[01:10:06] So maybe that's the thing that can happen.

[01:10:13] What's next?

[01:10:15] Sasha, I was going to say Sasha banks.

[01:10:18] I mean, I miss that.

[01:10:20] Say he's mone versus Willow.

[01:10:24] Okay.

[01:10:25] Like honestly, okay.

[01:10:28] Willow is a really good wrestler.

[01:10:30] But I feel like she's more like ring of honor.

[01:10:34] Type wrestler.

[01:10:36] Not to bite.

[01:10:38] No, don't share her.

[01:10:39] But to me, she's not like me.

[01:10:42] Vent type wrestler.

[01:10:43] You know.

[01:10:44] Well, thanks really.

[01:10:45] This is a ring on her.

[01:10:47] Yeah.

[01:10:48] And the whole thing with her and Mercedes though is they've kind of

[01:10:54] I think Mercedes came out and said like you injured me.

[01:10:58] But with Willow didn't have anything to do with that injury.

[01:11:03] Oh, yeah.

[01:11:05] Like Mercedes broke her.

[01:11:07] Was it her leg or her ankle?

[01:11:09] I know it was like like ankle area.

[01:11:12] I think she.

[01:11:14] But she, she did it when she jumped off the top broke to the floor.

[01:11:22] And like Willow didn't push her or any like Willow had nothing to do with that.

[01:11:26] But when Mercedes debuted, she was like, well, though you injured me and I'm like,

[01:11:30] I did think she did.

[01:11:33] And that's why they didn't show any video of it because it doesn't exist.

[01:11:37] If they were going to show the injury, they would have to show Mercedes jumping off the top rope and landing wrong.

[01:11:42] In which case everyone would be like Willow had nothing to do with that.

[01:11:52] But that's also a match.

[01:11:54] But the end was I guess the best part tackling because obviously Willow lost, but

[01:12:03] Chris that nervous that liner.

[01:12:07] Sorry.

[01:12:09] She turned home.

[01:12:12] Yeah, I saw I saw a thing where she was backstage with Stoke read and they're all like,

[01:12:20] They're like, we don't like Willow and I'm like, since fucking win, where did this come from?

[01:12:26] Yeah, it turned out to end.

[01:12:29] But they caused her the match in a way for like a discretion and then at the end they knock out Willow.

[01:12:37] I can't see that.

[01:12:39] I can't see Stoke later as a heel.

[01:12:41] It just feels so funny.

[01:12:43] It does.

[01:12:46] Well, now that she's not hanging out with the pudding gang maybe.

[01:12:50] But yeah, yes, sure.

[01:12:53] By the way, we will talk about.

[01:12:56] We will talk about.

[01:12:58] Ship a lay when we can access their program and because their site says you can watch it online,

[01:13:03] but they are lying bastards you cannot.

[01:13:05] I would love to talk about ship a lay.

[01:13:07] I'm opine and miss luch underground constantly and boy do I wish they would bring that back.

[01:13:14] I actually if I had more time, I thought about going back and just watching it again just for just for fun.

[01:13:20] But yeah, I mean, I don't have enough time to watch current wrestling so.

[01:13:26] Well, and by the wow, okay, a bunch of people joined up on TikTok.

[01:13:30] Hello, everyone. Did anybody watch double or nothing or King of the ring? King and Queen of the Rings.

[01:13:35] Sorry, that's feel free to throw comments.

[01:13:39] So yeah, Mercedes, Monet won the TBS title.

[01:13:44] What are they going to do if Warner Brothers Discovery doesn't renew their contract?

[01:13:50] I have to rename those titles fast.

[01:13:54] They're just going to come.

[01:13:55] Like they literally won't have time to rebrand it though literally have to come out and be like the.

[01:14:00] They'll just have to have new belts.

[01:14:04] They probably do just in case that this is a W mind you.

[01:14:09] Oh, that's true.

[01:14:10] See, you would think that.

[01:14:12] But I think it's going to.

[01:14:16] Ladies and gentlemen, let you let say champion.

[01:14:22] Or what is it the, what's another table network?

[01:14:30] The access TV champion.

[01:14:32] Oh, yeah.

[01:14:35] And the book's already named at the Mark Cuban driver.

[01:14:38] It goes then it's like the TV champion.

[01:14:44] That's right.

[01:14:45] I think they would.

[01:14:46] I think they would the men's and women's television champion.

[01:14:49] Yeah.

[01:14:50] But again, that would be smart.

[01:14:51] Tony will be no Tony will just be like, no, we'll just rebrand it.

[01:14:54] The new TV network we're on.

[01:14:57] Yeah, he would do that.

[01:15:04] Yes, we are in more platforms. You know we're in more platforms.

[01:15:07] We are simultaneously streaming to YouTube, TikTok and Twitch at the moment.

[01:15:12] But anyway Mercedes won the TV S title.

[01:15:17] And for some reason was front and center on the event poster, even though she was competing for a women's midcard title.

[01:15:25] What was the next match?

[01:15:28] Oh, the next one was slurred and.

[01:15:32] Horl bit.

[01:15:34] Oh, prison.

[01:15:36] Wait, what sort of oh Christian?

[01:15:42] Christian, I said who the hell's Christian?

[01:15:45] Hang on, hang on.

[01:15:47] Okay.

[01:15:48] Okay.

[01:15:49] The AEW World Heavyweight Champion is defending his title in not the main event.

[01:15:58] Yeah.

[01:16:00] So why are they killing Swerve Strickland?

[01:16:03] I don't understand this.

[01:16:09] Why is Swerve Strickland tolerating this?

[01:16:13] I see the last of my son as, as of like a big chap was with a hangman.

[01:16:19] And that's when he was even on a champ.

[01:16:21] I know that's when he wasn't even champ. That's when he should have been champ.

[01:16:24] Yeah.

[01:16:25] And honestly, and I agree with this.

[01:16:27] I didn't think about it this way, but then it was actually Brian last on the Jim Cornette experience.

[01:16:31] It was talking about this. He said,

[01:16:33] honestly, they should have kept if they were going to have hangman in that match.

[01:16:37] He could have been involved going further to keep the storyline, but it just seemed like they dropped it.

[01:16:43] And hangman and Swerve could have had a great singles match.

[01:16:48] Maybe they did.

[01:16:49] It was a, I still like that match even now.

[01:16:51] I still like that match.

[01:16:52] Yeah.

[01:16:53] It's good.

[01:16:54] I've always enjoyed Hangman's in ringwork.

[01:16:56] Some of his booking has been questionable, but his in ring stuff has always been good.

[01:17:00] And I still maintain that.

[01:17:01] Yeah.

[01:17:02] But I guess he does, he hasn't been on TV.

[01:17:04] I guess there's some sort of personal issue, family issue.

[01:17:10] I guess that's what they say.

[01:17:12] I don't know if that, and if it is, I wish him well in all that.

[01:17:18] It seems, I don't know, but it seems kind of an odd reason to be off television when you worked one day a week.

[01:17:25] But maybe that's just me.

[01:17:29] I don't know.

[01:17:30] But all I know is that they're burying their own world champion, and they don't even realize that they're doing it.

[01:17:39] Yeah.

[01:17:40] But like to me, he should be like, he's less harder now than he was when he wasn't you.

[01:17:45] But that's what AEW does.

[01:17:47] Samoa Joe was hotter.

[01:17:49] Well, before and right after he won the title, he was hotter than when he was champion.

[01:17:59] And I mean, this is what they do.

[01:18:02] There hasn't been when Joe won the title from MJF.

[01:18:09] MJF was the last, I would say, World Title holder that's which there's only been two more since him.

[01:18:16] But he was the last time that they had a world champion that I would consider like he was white hot when he won the title when he lost the title.

[01:18:25] He was popular.

[01:18:26] And then he was in the main like I'll put it to this way. I guarantee you, oh no, there were a few paper views where MJF wasn't in the main event and he was the champion trying to think of one.

[01:18:40] But like your world champion should be the main event.

[01:18:46] That's all I'm saying.

[01:18:48] Because even even King of the Ring, the live event is called King of the Ring still the main event was the World Title.

[01:18:57] I'm a traditionalist in that aspect and some people argue with me on it.

[01:19:01] And I guess I'm of the school of thought that if your world champion isn't in the main event, then they shouldn't be World Champion.

[01:19:12] It moves that way too. To be honest, because they're okay, the last match was the NRK in the ring arena.

[01:19:18] It was okay, but it was okay.

[01:19:20] And he went in the ring arena.

[01:19:21] Yeah, NRK and anywhere but the ring. I'm sure.

[01:19:24] It should be the last match to go home.

[01:19:29] No, you put that in the middle of the show.

[01:19:33] Yeah.

[01:19:34] I can be the midcard climax, honestly.

[01:19:37] Yeah, exactly.

[01:19:38] But instead, then probably let me guess it was at least, it was at least 25 minutes if not longer.

[01:19:49] It started, let me see.

[01:19:52] Yeah, Kevin's for a long.

[01:19:57] I would say, well, yeah, I think you're completely right. It was like 29 minutes of the day.

[01:20:02] I had 28 in my head, but I thought they couldn't have made it that long.

[01:20:06] But yeah, I think it was like 29 minutes.

[01:20:09] And I guess they did a running.

[01:20:11] They did a gag because of course it's the young box.

[01:20:14] They can't help themselves where they were playing music the whole time and then they changed the music and

[01:20:19] they can hear it.

[01:20:20] That's annoying.

[01:20:21] I couldn't take that part.

[01:20:23] Well, they just, I don't know.

[01:20:25] And this is somebody that's coming from somebody who wants to be a young box fan and I just can't

[01:20:30] because they just can't keep themselves from doing stupid, goofy, junior high shins.

[01:20:37] Between that and that, shoes, things like that, some sneakers are, they have a new sneakers

[01:20:42] out now, re-box.

[01:20:44] They put like dumb text on an eighth of it.

[01:20:47] People re-box them after they buy them.

[01:20:49] Oh, for us kidding, I'm aware of the band re-bog before anyone in the comments.

[01:20:56] Re-book is a brand of shoe.

[01:20:59] You, what do they call people?

[01:21:01] You sissy and like it's called the joke.

[01:21:05] We're talking about one.

[01:21:08] We're talking about the young bucks who, uh, the state of this company right now.

[01:21:14] And I just love, because I don't comment on the Facebook groups, but I'm in a couple of

[01:21:19] A. W. And I just end on next Twitter.

[01:21:22] I see people in the comments that are just like, this is the best thing ever.

[01:21:25] And I'm like, what universe do you live in?

[01:21:29] This doesn't move the needle at all.

[01:21:33] Honestly, if I never seen like nine knees wrestling, I still wouldn't consider this the best thing ever.

[01:21:39] Right, because they, they don't take it seriously.

[01:21:43] It's just a joke. And even the people that do take it seriously are books so bad that nobody else can take it seriously.

[01:21:50] Like, sort of is trying so hard.

[01:21:53] You can tell.

[01:21:54] Yeah, exactly.

[01:21:56] But when you're just what was on the last dynamite, I think he had a match with Nick Wayne who was 19 years old.

[01:22:04] Oh, yeah.

[01:22:06] And he had a competitive match with him.

[01:22:10] And keep in mind that previously, not that long ago, sort of shrikling a salted Nick Wayne.

[01:22:16] And like literally just beat the shit out of him.

[01:22:23] And then he comes in and has a competitive match with the world champion, a 19 year old who is not Randy Orton has a competitive match with the world heavyweight champion.

[01:22:35] And it would go nowhere like he's still a job or Nick Wayne is like, it makes no sense.

[01:22:42] But who did swirstrikling even defend his tie. Oh, Christian.

[01:22:46] Yeah, personally.

[01:22:47] So you expect me to believe that swirstrikling takes 20 minutes to beat Nick Wayne and yet would even win a match against Christian.

[01:22:56] A 25 year veteran.

[01:23:01] Multi-time world champion in multiple companies.

[01:23:07] Like, but they don't, but they don't think about this.

[01:23:13] They would, they would literally if Tony Khan was booking WWE, they would have put taker in a 25 minute banger with the Brooklyn Brawler and then had him go beat Triple H the next night.

[01:23:27] And then he would have to accept taker would have been like, no.

[01:23:32] And like with all and like with all due respect to the Brooklyn Brawler, which I do, Brooklyn Brawler knew what his role in the company was.

[01:23:42] Yeah, Brooklyn Brawler was there to lose the majority of the time to make top stars look good and usually quickly, which actually he was on Brooklyn Brawler was recently on Chris Van Vleach Show and I really want to watch that interview because

[01:23:57] Yeah, I'm northern.

[01:23:59] The stories he can tell, right?

[01:24:02] I mean this is a guy who's been in WW to be since, which I think he's still there but in a backstage capacity.

[01:24:09] But like since since since the 80s.

[01:24:13] It's just always he was the one clip I did see was telling you story how he had left the arena and then Vince called him was like, have you left yet?

[01:24:21] He's like, yeah, I'm on the road and he's like, I need you to come back.

[01:24:24] He came back.

[01:24:26] Because he needed him to drive the rock when he was just coming in to the next town and work him in his first match in front of people ever.

[01:24:33] So yeah, apparently rock, take Docs being goofy again.

[01:24:43] Apparently rock asked me, it's like, okay, so you know how is he going to beat me? And he's like, oh no, you're beating him.

[01:24:49] Like what?

[01:24:53] Yeah, so fun.

[01:24:55] I that was one of the better episodes of Young Rock, which I enjoyed by the way.

[01:24:59] But that was one of the better episodes where they cover Coca-Bana played, Burkhan Brawler though, so that must have been cool for him.

[01:25:05] I've seen probably maybe one or two episodes.

[01:25:09] Are they ready to go into it much?

[01:25:12] I do like the show.

[01:25:14] I will say with their the actors so they get to play wrestlers.

[01:25:18] They either get the look perfect or they get the voice perfect.

[01:25:21] It's never but.

[01:25:23] Because like the guy who plays Stone Cold looks nothing like Stone Cold, but he sounds like him.

[01:25:28] And the guy that got to play Triple H honestly, if the guy gained like 20 pounds he looked really similar.

[01:25:39] But actually that's about example because he doesn't look or sound like Triple H but I digress for the most part they do a good job with the casting.

[01:25:52] But any who, who won the Anarchy in the Arena match I wonder.

[01:26:01] But it possibly be the EVPs.

[01:26:05] Yeah, yeah.

[01:26:07] So for those of you who aren't aware, the young bucks are executive, legit, executive vice presidents in the company, but they beat team AEW.

[01:26:22] Did Tony Connie even put that team together?

[01:26:28] No, so they're even half as booking this. So they ruined their own angle because of half as booking.

[01:26:34] And like, hard the match, Darby was in it but like he wasn't in the match early he was tie up.

[01:26:46] Yeah, why was he wearing it?

[01:26:48] Well, because he's can injured.

[01:26:50] Oh, that's why.

[01:26:52] He still has a broken ankle. Yes, if I'm aware.

[01:26:55] Yeah, yeah, they didn't say that. I do the business saying that. But yeah.

[01:27:00] So why is he out there if he has a legitimately broken ankle?

[01:27:05] They time up by the ankles. I'm hanging up and I'm sitting down.

[01:27:10] I know, but again, it's like, it's like why, why risk it? Why risk admittedly one of your most popular stars?

[01:27:18] Why risk re-induring and already injured ankle? And he was just hit by a bus not that long ago.

[01:27:24] Let the man rest, which I know Darby doesn't like to rest but somebody needs to be said, like, even though he doesn't want to, you should have like his best interest.

[01:27:33] Like, well, not even just like, I mean, like yes his best interest absolutely, but also the companies they pay Darby a lot of money to wrestle on their television program.

[01:27:43] So you're going to risk injuring him for a garbage match that he is not necessary to be in when they should be gearing him up for any of you title run because it's time.

[01:27:53] Yeah, tell me a Darby swirf shirklin program. Actually, you know, it would be better. M. J. F needs to win the title again and then Darby needs to win it from an MJF after like a six month few.

[01:28:04] Tell me that would that will get ratings up.

[01:28:09] You need MJF and swirf for a few months.

[01:28:13] And then you make it MJF and Darby and then swirf needs to recuperate from his terrible booking.

[01:28:19] Like honestly, since swirf did Japan for a bit, swirf can do great things in Japan.

[01:28:25] Yeah, I think really should have a MJF, no after the swirf match. It would be much better.

[01:28:32] Yes, he could have come out and he could have just said daddy's home.

[01:28:36] And then you open dynamite with MJF where then he does a long promo.

[01:28:42] Yeah, because that's how because they insist on using their paper views to drum up interest for their television. So that's how you do it. MJF just swirf wins. MJF's music hits. He comes out and the only thing he says is daddy's home.

[01:28:59] And then put.

[01:29:01] And then you open the show with MJF.

[01:29:04] Then he does his long promo because MJF can go out there and talk for 20 minutes and everyone will be glued to their TVs.

[01:29:11] Yeah, it's like CM Punk, you know.

[01:29:14] Just like CM Punk. Holy crap. I remember their first in ring promo together. I was glued to my TV and that you know how long that segment was truly.

[01:29:22] That segment was 23 minutes.

[01:29:26] And it felt like five.

[01:29:29] It was really good. That was so much way for you.

[01:29:33] Because you waited for the next thing, like I said, it literally felt like five minutes after 23 minutes. I wanted more.

[01:29:39] They could have had MJF and CM Punk going back and forth for two hours and they would have had one of the best frames they've ever had.

[01:29:45] It's still like one of the most great.

[01:29:51] It is one of the highest rated segments ever.

[01:29:54] Yeah, you love you.

[01:29:57] But I digress. So the young books won to know some, none of these matches outcome surprised me but some of the returns are good and make me hopeful.

[01:30:06] But we will see. We will see going forward. The next dynamite is going to be very.

[01:30:11] Are you yes, we already had the next dynamite technically.

[01:30:16] The next picture is going to be for being door.

[01:30:19] Well, that's not going to be booked for anything because they've yet to actually book a forbidden door paper view.

[01:30:25] So what's in JW in JPW star is a sword of going to face.

[01:30:33] Actually, no it would be really interesting as if he wrestled Nick and Ameth.

[01:30:39] Oh, well.

[01:30:40] Because he's got it. I believe he's got a new Japan title.

[01:30:46] He does.

[01:30:47] I think so.

[01:30:48] Hang on.

[01:30:49] I can verify that information.

[01:30:55] No, not Ryan, Nemeth. I'm quick. The good one.

[01:31:00] I'm kidding.

[01:31:01] There's nothing wrong with Brian Nemeth.

[01:31:04] Which he's he's done more on TNA television than he has in AEW and he signed AEW.

[01:31:10] He had a match on impact.

[01:31:15] I don't think he did hang on maybe he did.

[01:31:18] Now that might have been why he was that might have been why he was wrestling on.

[01:31:24] I thought he was your release.

[01:31:28] Oh, yep. He was your right. That's why he had a match.

[01:31:40] Where is there's Nick?

[01:31:44] Come on.

[01:31:56] This was recent too.

[01:32:00] So let's see.

[01:32:01] In terms of his name, he's passed.

[01:32:06] Okay, maybe I'm wrong.

[01:32:08] Maybe he just wrestled.

[01:32:09] I don't know. He's the IGWGP global champion.

[01:32:16] Oh, no, he lost it.

[01:32:22] He did.

[01:32:23] Recently.

[01:32:25] So yeah, he was the global champion.

[01:32:32] So it was partially right. He was a champion in JPW, but no one could.

[01:32:36] But still.

[01:32:37] I digress. It was I saw him wrestle to retain the title.

[01:32:41] I think against E she had an event.

[01:32:44] I can't remember which one.

[01:32:46] Yeah.

[01:32:47] But it was a good match.

[01:32:48] I was glad to see that E she is in a bad restaurant out just what he's done on AEW for some reason.

[01:32:55] That match with Moxley where they both did the fakeest head, but I've ever seen.

[01:33:02] It was literally like, oh no. That wasn't.

[01:33:04] Was that he she or was that? No, that wasn't E she.

[01:33:07] That was an orce Suzuki where it was literally this.

[01:33:12] This was the head head, but this is the head, but they did and they sold it.

[01:33:16] This was it. It would literally went like this.

[01:33:20] And then they sold it.

[01:33:24] And like I'm not, I'm not a proponent of lead butts in wrestling matches.

[01:33:29] But if you're going to do it, I would just be rather not.

[01:33:32] I would just rather they not do it. You know what I mean?

[01:33:34] If it's going to look like that.

[01:33:36] Mm-hmm.

[01:33:37] Just don't do it.

[01:33:39] That's what I said by a lot of things.

[01:33:40] Like if it looks too fake, just don't do it.

[01:33:43] Yeah.

[01:33:44] But I digress anything to add or do we want to get out of here and wrap things up?

[01:33:51] That was pretty much it.

[01:33:54] Double or nothing.

[01:33:56] Like I said, it was okay.

[01:33:58] Mashes is so long though.

[01:34:00] It was probably for hours but it felt so much longer.

[01:34:05] That's just it.

[01:34:06] It was but I think King and Queen of the Ring even with like the

[01:34:10] Brakes and the entrances and all that.

[01:34:13] I think it was only like two and a half hours.

[01:34:15] If even that long it might have been because like I said,

[01:34:17] I calculated the actual in ring time and it was like an hour and a half.

[01:34:21] Yeah.

[01:34:22] And it was fine.

[01:34:24] Yeah.

[01:34:25] That's what they do and it's like half these matches could have not been on the

[01:34:30] card and it would have been perfectly fine vapor.

[01:34:33] Yeah.

[01:34:34] The orcastine match.

[01:34:36] That was was done.

[01:34:37] Well that's an even.

[01:34:38] That's that's not even a dynamite main event.

[01:34:40] Like I said, that's a rampage main event that is maybe collision.

[01:34:44] Collision after punk.

[01:34:46] Maybe.

[01:34:47] And second house like a 15 million match or something.

[01:34:54] It shouldn't happen.

[01:34:57] It shouldn't happen.

[01:35:00] It just shouldn't.

[01:35:04] Well for those of you who are wondering.

[01:35:08] Doing in Queen of the Ring.

[01:35:11] Be sent.

[01:35:13] It didn't blow the world apart but I don't think it was supposed to.

[01:35:19] Yeah, I would give it like a three out of five maybe it's three.

[01:35:23] That's fair.

[01:35:24] That's fair.

[01:35:27] Yeah, it was a solid.

[01:35:28] There's a low B.

[01:35:30] Yeah, yeah.

[01:35:31] So.

[01:35:32] Nothing like nothing.

[01:35:34] Laringly bad but nothing like I said nothing the blue the world apart but.

[01:35:39] You know, not like a backlash backlash was a really good paper.

[01:35:44] Yeah.

[01:35:47] And double or nothing.

[01:35:48] I didn't watch it so I don't feel like I can't grade it.

[01:35:50] But what would you give double or nothing?

[01:35:55] Maybe look at two.

[01:35:58] So like right in the middle.

[01:36:00] Like yeah.

[01:36:01] Yeah, yeah.

[01:36:04] It okay.

[01:36:05] It wasn't the worst interview but it was just long and some of the matches that I make sense.

[01:36:11] Somewhere to 20 boring.

[01:36:14] So it's basically a.

[01:36:17] It's basically a W's par for for the moment hopefully which forbidden door won't exceed that because they did it for some reason.

[01:36:26] They don't book matches for forbidden door.

[01:36:29] They just make matches for forbidden door but hopefully the next one is better.

[01:36:36] Because that might give them time to do something with MJF and Swirv.

[01:36:40] You know.

[01:36:41] Okay, do it.

[01:36:44] Well, they have to what what also they're going to do realistically because you got it.

[01:36:51] You got to you got to have a Darby MJF program.

[01:36:55] That's money.

[01:36:58] Trying to I guess put MJF with um.

[01:37:01] On co or against a on co he's back now he's betrayed him.

[01:37:06] Okay, so that that might be a way to storyline.

[01:37:09] Yeah, that might be a way to stall for time.

[01:37:12] So okay.

[01:37:13] I'll give him that.

[01:37:15] But I mean.

[01:37:17] You got to get the title bill back on MJF or at least somehow some way resurrects Swirv but I don't I don't think you can.

[01:37:24] Not in a way that's credible.

[01:37:25] Not now not saying he can't win the title again later but they've already killed him and it's not his fault.

[01:37:30] And that's the frustrating thing because on paper Swirv's trickling is a great world champion.

[01:37:36] They just.

[01:37:39] He's got the presence he's got the athletic ability he's got the size he's got the look he's got the character.

[01:37:45] You can do the moves he can sell he can like.

[01:37:51] He's got it all.

[01:37:53] Yeah, he's got it all but they just they booked it to ship so I don't I wonder who they're going to put him against next.

[01:38:10] Maybe hang man will come back.

[01:38:15] But I was saying that don't think man might they do like we spoke what really matches a way.

[01:38:21] Yeah, that's valid that's valid.

[01:38:24] I just I don't know who he can work with that's going to be credible.

[01:38:29] And then that's the problem this to me like make cars or jobbers.

[01:38:36] Yeah, none of them none of them are built up none of them are built up to be even Christian I.

[01:38:42] Like I was like Christian really the guy who just got off of a TNT title room.

[01:38:47] It wasn't even his.

[01:38:51] Oh, yeah, right it was I know.

[01:38:53] However it is Dino Dush.

[01:38:56] Yeah, yeah.

[01:38:57] First switch of source.

[01:38:59] Yeah, was just.

[01:39:02] Not kill switch now for some reason.

[01:39:08] That feels like a kid in grade school that just picked his own nickname and was going on be like no my name's not.

[01:39:14] Beyond anymore it's kill switch.

[01:39:18] Yeah, like just say okay kill switch.

[01:39:23] There was a kid.

[01:39:25] I'm not I'm not gonna drop his name.

[01:39:27] I haven't seen him in God 20 years but the over 20 you got I'm old well over 20 years.

[01:39:34] Like probably 28 years being honest.

[01:39:39] But anyway he came up I remember he came up to us on the playground one day and like fourth grade.

[01:39:43] He was like I'll tell you what my nickname is scar any hell of his arm and he had like a

[01:39:48] scavenged on it from like when he fell off his bike or something like just with like he knew this was going to be the coolest thing ever remember like.

[01:39:57] Okay, that's the same energy that kill switch gives me.

[01:40:05] He does.

[01:40:06] So where's that stupid mass?

[01:40:09] It's not a luch of source anymore even though I look and wrestle the exact same way.

[01:40:16] It's like whole-coking coming out and being like it's just Terry now brother.

[01:40:23] I was Hollywood whole-cogen but now I'm just Terry anyway.

[01:40:34] Well, you have anything else to add or wrap it up for this this this go around.

[01:40:41] Yeah that was that was everything.

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[01:42:59] Yeah.

[01:43:01] Yeah.

[01:43:02] So it's like I felt a little bit better because I looked at my.

[01:43:06] Like my usage and I'm like, oh that's a lot of YouTube and I'm like well but I did post a lot.

[01:43:11] Yeah.

[01:43:12] Okay.

[01:43:13] You haven't done anything though.

[01:43:14] But then I looked at my cat cut usage and it's like 60% of my daily usage of like oh okay.

[01:43:19] Oh yeah.

[01:43:20] It's been a lot of time on cat cut recently.

[01:43:23] But I'm going to stop me hammering now and leave you with.

[01:43:27] Thanks for enjoying the show.

[01:43:28] Hope you see you again next time.