Part of your broadway world podcast (bonus episode): Hailey and the problems Halloween bonus Special

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[00:00:48] Welcome to today's podcast episode. This one is a spooky Halloween. Spooky Halloween edition.

[00:00:59] And today's podcast we're going to show you a it is pre recorded. We're going to show you a little discussion me and my friend my friend my friend slash editor. Jake and my friend. Justin all had about like a whole bunch of things.

[00:01:29] So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Please leave a like comment and don't forget to subscribe if you liked this episode.

[00:01:38] Right? Here, and without further ado, here's the episode.

[00:01:45] Alrighty, so what we are doing here today is this is basically a filler for Hailey's upcoming episode.

[00:01:52] And I thought it would be a nice chance to talk to the people out there about the podcast network and you two have glowing testimonials. I'm sure. Hopefully, maybe.

[00:02:06] Yeah, I do.

[00:02:08] And also we're going to tease the upcoming trial of Hamilton.

[00:02:13] Oh yeah. I mean, well, my I mean my testimonial, I suppose would be that I mean, I I've made a lot of great friends doing this.

[00:02:23] I've I have encountered a lot of differing opinions on things.

[00:02:27] And in terms of just sheer infrastructure.

[00:02:30] Uh, all of you tutorial all of the tutorials that you have available to people who need it were like instrumental to everything I did.

[00:02:39] It was effectively like following a step by step guide.

[00:02:42] It was very, very helpful.

[00:02:44] Yeah, I I purposefully designed it that way because that's that's what always frustrates me when I'm trying to learn something new is.

[00:02:52] It's so helpful.

[00:02:53] The guides tend to just be like, oh, and then do this.

[00:02:56] It's like, well, I don't know how to do that.

[00:02:58] Hence the tutorial why I need it.

[00:03:01] So I it might be annoying to some, but I go through every little step and I assume I will follow a video.

[00:03:09] Yeah, I assume that if you're watching the video, you know nothing about what you're doing.

[00:03:13] And if you do, it just makes it that much easier.

[00:03:16] Um, I will feel like you're the the one you did on shorts is basically how I learned everything I know in CapCut.

[00:03:23] And like the reason why I can hit the ground, I can, I can, for lack of a better word, shit out like five, six shorts in an hour, because the infrastructure you built in your tutorial, I follow that.

[00:03:37] It's I you've basically created a template that I just slap on to every single short I make and I can I can I can make one real quick in like 10 minutes now because of the tutorial that I followed from from like from you from that starting point.

[00:03:53] I just made it super easy for me.

[00:03:56] Well, and it's actually about to get even at least on my end, but I do shorts for multiple podcasts and it's about to get even faster on my end because I discovered a wonderful product.

[00:04:06] Um, there is a free version, but you have a watermark and limited tool.

[00:04:10] So I bit the bullet I paid $120 per year.

[00:04:14] And, oh, my God, I can crap out now granted they will edit and caption it for you but I don't.

[00:04:21] I don't love how they do because there's very generic I like to style is it a bit more.

[00:04:25] Um, but you could literally shit out like 30 shorts and an hour really my cap cut currently is every time you exit out of it, like even if you so much is like hit that hit that button to open another window, it'll load an ad.

[00:04:43] Like you go you go to let's say if I go to grab a grab a piece of footage you go back in I got to skip through like four or five ads every single time.

[00:04:52] It's really it is the most aggravating thing on the planet is to the point and they're just slowly been blocking off same thing on Canva.

[00:04:59] They've just been slowly blocking off free options.

[00:05:02] So I've been perpetually tempted to get the professional version of those.

[00:05:06] Oh, that was my that was my next question is do you pay for the pro because I did the I got the pro for both.

[00:05:12] I've been I've been tempted lately, especially with cap cut.

[00:05:15] I have the background remover.

[00:05:17] I just been times where I've wanted the background remover.

[00:05:19] The only reason I got premium camera was for the background remover.

[00:05:23] Everything else is gravy.

[00:05:25] There's been times where like I want like an image but it's on a mosaic background and I just want to get rid of that annoying mosaic background and I just can't do it.

[00:05:33] Well, one of the one of the perks of being part of the RSA podcast Pantheon is if you don't have premium premium, you know, premium Canva.

[00:05:40] And you need a background and background removed from an image.

[00:05:43] Just just send it to me.

[00:05:45] I mean in Canva, it's literally two clicks.

[00:05:47] Fair enough.

[00:05:48] Yeah.

[00:05:49] Yeah, because because I had Canva and CapCut Pro.

[00:05:54] I don't know when I was doing my own editing and stuff, and that made it so much easier.

[00:06:02] But still, I wasn't perfect.

[00:06:05] So that's why I that's why I delegated to Jake over here.

[00:06:10] Yeah, when you delegated to me.

[00:06:11] In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have but I was like I'll do it under one condition.

[00:06:17] Add spots.

[00:06:19] Fair enough.

[00:06:20] It's it's it's quite simple, though.

[00:06:22] And really, the beautiful thing about all this is you very much learn by doing and I found so many shortcuts.

[00:06:29] In fact, this segment we're recording.

[00:06:33] Zoom changed.

[00:06:35] I don't know what you call a setting or feature.

[00:06:38] And now if you go in and tweak your settings, which if you join the network, there's a new video that shows you how to do it.

[00:06:43] If you record on zoom instead of going live like some of the other podcasts do if you change this one setting.

[00:06:49] When you go to download your recorded video zoom will kick out the gallery view and the speaker view.

[00:06:56] Two different video files so you just layer those in your editor and you can cut between them seem interesting.

[00:07:02] It's it's you on discord.

[00:07:04] Yeah, and that's fine.

[00:07:06] I it's going live is even less work.

[00:07:10] But if you like a more like we could never do Justin, you and I we can never do the final frontier live.

[00:07:15] It would be too boring.

[00:07:17] Yeah.

[00:07:17] Yeah, that's why we have to we have to edit it right.

[00:07:21] Yeah, I mean for I will say watching even watching you do live streams.

[00:07:28] I've learned a lot like there's there was a period of time where it was driving me crazy that you had different OBS than me.

[00:07:34] And I couldn't figure out why I was like, why is your OBS different than mine?

[00:07:37] I'm and I was looking up tutorials and I finally realized I hadn't updated my OBS in like 10 years.

[00:07:43] And I was like, now I have all these controls.

[00:07:44] Now I can go like one.

[00:07:46] And yeah, you taught me about hot keys and I can go like one starts the show to ends the show and then three ends the recording.

[00:07:53] And it's really it's really useful.

[00:07:54] Oh, yeah, I still have to do a tutorial on hot keys.

[00:07:57] I forgot about that.

[00:08:00] But honestly, the simplest solution is just buy like a 40 to $80 stream deck and but I mean, you're doing the same thing, though.

[00:08:09] So I suppose you're just doing the stream deck versus the only thing that I discovered today is when you're filling out your OBS.

[00:08:17] I've got I've got my my other not my night my numpad, but my actual number keys.

[00:08:23] I've got it set. So number two just plays the trailer for the final frontier.

[00:08:27] And so but when you're typing in your OBS description, it it will activate the hot keys when you just typing.

[00:08:34] So like as I'm typing because I'm today was Terrifier movie.

[00:08:37] So I would Terrifier to every time I put in the number two, it would just start playing the trailer and it would just start from the beginning.

[00:08:43] I was like, stop that.

[00:08:45] Yeah, that is the only I guess that's the upshot to the stream deck is that doesn't happen.

[00:08:50] Yeah, exactly.

[00:08:51] But Haley, it is your show after all.

[00:08:55] How have you found the experience overall?

[00:09:01] Pretty good.

[00:09:01] Like I said, I delegated most of the work to you because I'm like, I've been so busy with like interviews that I have like found found I have like no time to do nothing but interviews.

[00:09:17] Yeah, honestly, if I had my druthers in my dream world, that's what I would be doing all day every day.

[00:09:23] Like today, for example, today's a Sunday.

[00:09:25] So I don't have my normal job.

[00:09:27] I've literally been editing all day and I've been happier than a pig in shed.

[00:09:30] Like it's great.

[00:09:32] I take a certain amount of joy out of yeah, out of the just as much as the on camera, the pre the behind the producing stuff is as almost as much fun as the like as much as it's yeah work to spend all the time cutting the shorts and all that stuff.

[00:09:47] Yeah, I I there is a certain level of like, it's better than my regular job.

[00:09:53] Oh, yeah.

[00:09:54] The frustrating thing was funny.

[00:09:55] I was talking to Max yesterday who virus box.

[00:10:00] Sorry, he doesn't like it when I call him Max on tune talk 2.0.

[00:10:03] I was talking to virus box the other day.

[00:10:07] And he was like, you're you're doing too much, you know, because he's trying to get me to hire a virtual assistant.

[00:10:12] And I'm like, I don't want a virtual assistant because nobody's going to do it the way I like to do it.

[00:10:17] No, nobody is.

[00:10:18] My issue is I don't have enough time.

[00:10:21] If I had enough time, there would be no issue.

[00:10:23] I can edit 50 podcasts if it were my day job, which we're trying to get 50.

[00:10:28] We're trying to get to 50.

[00:10:29] So here's the sales pitch part portion.

[00:10:32] If you're still with us, do you have an idea for a podcast?

[00:10:37] If so, we can help even if and these two can attest to this, even if you have no idea what you're doing when it comes to things like YouTube or podcasting in general, even if you've never worked a camera before, we can walk you through all the steps.

[00:10:53] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:10:54] Yeah.

[00:10:55] Yeah, even if you've never edited a video before we can show you how or I hate to say it this way, because it was never my intention to do this for money.

[00:11:03] I'm editing too much now where I'll just be blunt.

[00:11:06] If anybody else, if you want me to edit your stuff, we're at a point now where you got to pay me.

[00:11:14] They're also fair.

[00:11:15] I didn't have people stuff for them.

[00:11:18] They asked me to.

[00:11:19] Oh, fair enough.

[00:11:20] Yeah, I forgot.

[00:11:21] I didn't even want to.

[00:11:22] I didn't want to speak for you.

[00:11:22] But we can definitely show you how because honestly, it's one of those things where it's, it's not technically difficult.

[00:11:30] It's it's actually quite simple.

[00:11:32] But if you've never seen it before, you just don't know where to start.

[00:11:36] But once you start learning the programs, much like anything else, it becomes a lot less daunting when things look familiar.

[00:11:43] When you know what that button does.

[00:11:45] It's not me.

[00:11:46] It was scary.

[00:11:47] Finding a launcher platform like your tutorial on Spotify for podcasts was like instrumental to you often are like you got things up and running so fast.

[00:11:57] That was instrumental that and everything with the back end YouTube stuff.

[00:12:02] It's funny to shout out a fellow podcast on the network, the Goosebumps crew.

[00:12:08] They they I don't know if it's out yet, but they have done a are doing an interview with James Rolfe, the angry video game nerd.

[00:12:17] Believe it.

[00:12:18] I believe it comes out.

[00:12:20] I believe it comes out today for the for the viewers.

[00:12:23] Yeah, I believe the day that this episode is going, I believe is the day that that episode premieres for them.

[00:12:28] So you should check that out after you're done watching.

[00:12:30] Yes, you absolutely should.

[00:12:31] But they put out a post where there are like questions for him.

[00:12:35] And all my questions are like back end YouTube related.

[00:12:38] Well, I think like like that.

[00:12:40] Like that's what I would want to ask him about all the all the in the weeds YouTube shit.

[00:12:44] Like that's what I want to know about.

[00:12:46] That's that's what's useful to me in terms of information.

[00:12:49] Yeah, that's the frustrating thing, though, is, again, all these technologies change fairly quickly.

[00:12:53] But so one of the other features is you get into our private discord group, which hasn't been super active lately, but that's because everybody's been grinding.

[00:13:01] There haven't been too many.

[00:13:03] Yeah, there have been too many new developments, but the already awards are coming up.

[00:13:07] So that's where I post all of I put all of my updates every every time we go live.

[00:13:13] I you sort of early on and still the benefits to going live.

[00:13:20] And I definitely way less editing because you're like too much editing.

[00:13:25] I that's part of why I like I like doing the live because I don't have to edit anything.

[00:13:31] The only thing I have to edit is descriptions.

[00:13:34] And that's it.

[00:13:34] Yeah. And that's that's sort of the beauty of it.

[00:13:37] When we set you up in the first video in the tutorial, I think other than, you know, picking your name and your logo is figuring out whether you want to stream where they want to go live.

[00:13:44] And we lay out the pros and cons for each one.

[00:13:46] And if you're kind of intimidated by an editor, you can go live in two clicks.

[00:13:52] Exactly.

[00:13:53] It takes a day and a half to get approved.

[00:13:55] But like, that's it.

[00:13:58] Well, it's not even approved.

[00:14:00] It's like, I don't even know why YouTube bothers.

[00:14:01] I guess it's just to make sure that you're an actual person.

[00:14:05] Probably. Yeah.

[00:14:06] But yeah.

[00:14:07] Yeah.

[00:14:08] Yeah.

[00:14:08] It's in the tutorial video what he's mentioning, but free to be here.

[00:14:11] If you want to go live on YouTube and you've never done it before, you have to request permission to do so.

[00:14:16] But within.

[00:14:17] Yeah.

[00:14:17] Usually within 24 hours, you're good to go.

[00:14:20] And then it's just one click away.

[00:14:22] Well, two because OBS, but.

[00:14:26] Yeah.

[00:14:27] Yeah.

[00:14:27] To be fair though, I did find that the, this compared to, I was doing stream labs, but this version of OBS, I, I found it was nice and easy to, to set up a YouTube stream key.

[00:14:39] There's a lot more options in this.

[00:14:40] Yeah.

[00:14:41] Stream labs.

[00:14:41] And other one, which there's, there's others even a, I forgot about restream.

[00:14:45] Um, if you want to stream to multiple platforms at once, which I've used to restream.

[00:14:49] I've looked into stream yard.

[00:14:51] Um, I haven't made my mind up about them yet because to use all the cool features you have to pay.

[00:14:58] So I can't really try it out per se.

[00:15:00] Yeah.

[00:15:01] Fair.

[00:15:01] I mean, it seems to be okay, but then again, um, cause I would love to dump zoom.

[00:15:06] Cause zoom is just expensive, but it's got, it's got great.

[00:15:10] Yeah.

[00:15:10] We don't mind discord other than the occasional technical glitch, weird, random ones.

[00:15:16] Like there's a, there's a couple of weeks where Jordan was just upside down.

[00:15:19] Um, but beyond that, it's, it's a useful service and it doesn't cut you off at 40 minutes.

[00:15:26] Like zoom does.

[00:15:27] But yeah.

[00:15:28] So just for people to know too, what was your, both of you, this question is for both of you.

[00:15:32] What was your level of experience prior to starting your podcast when it comes to like, uh, making videos, video editing, even posting on places like YouTube and other social media.

[00:15:43] I was, I've been doing it.

[00:15:47] When do you have it?

[00:15:48] It was last year, since 2020 in any major capacity.

[00:15:52] I mean, I, with my cohost, we had tried to get some stuff off the ground, but we never really committed to anything.

[00:16:00] And this keeps us honest.

[00:16:01] I will say that like, it keeps it keeps us committed to a thing.

[00:16:05] But I had a tick tock where I, I did a lot of this.

[00:16:12] Uh, so a little.

[00:16:17] Oh, really?

[00:16:18] Yeah.

[00:16:19] Big old six.

[00:16:21] Oh, wow. Really?

[00:16:22] So you hadn't done any of this prior.

[00:16:24] No, I was nervous about long form content.

[00:16:27] Like that was always my thing.

[00:16:28] Like, can I, cause cause to be fair, me and Jordan, we had a, we had a podcast that we did once where it was called live from Justin and Jordan's couch.

[00:16:37] And, uh, it was just, we were just sitting on a couch and we did exactly like 10 minutes where we rushed through like five minutes worth of topics.

[00:16:47] And then we were just, and that's the end of the podcast over.

[00:16:50] Um, and it was, it went awful.

[00:16:52] So we've always been anxious about like, can we talk for like, and that's where finding a format is really important.

[00:16:59] That would be my number one advice is figure out what your format is.

[00:17:03] Once you figure out what your format is.

[00:17:06] Like what exactly the structure of your show is roughly going to be.

[00:17:11] That makes things a thousand times easier.

[00:17:13] Like once we decided we were going to be like news based and be sort of analysis based that made things easier.

[00:17:22] Yeah.

[00:17:22] Interviews are tough too.

[00:17:24] I know.

[00:17:26] Um, it's the worst feeling in the world when you get somebody there and you're, especially when you're excited about and you get there and there's just like no chemistry whatsoever.

[00:17:33] And it's like pulling teeth to get somebody to talk.

[00:17:36] Yeah.

[00:17:37] Well, Jordan joins pushy.

[00:17:38] I, he's not pushing, but he's like, he sees like, like he sees, uh, the goosebumps guys talking to the anger video game nerd and his ears perk.

[00:17:46] And he goes, really?

[00:17:47] And I'm like, yeah.

[00:17:49] And I'm like, but I don't, I would, I would be so anxious because he's, I watch it.

[00:17:53] I'm a fan.

[00:17:54] Like how do you approach like inviting people like guests on that's the, that's the portion where I'm like, it's easy when it's just me and Jordan.

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:04] It's especially I've done so many cold interviews and I'll be honest.

[00:18:07] Sometimes it shows, uh, where I'm just like, I have no idea what to ask this person.

[00:18:12] I'm very much a third wheel for this conversation.

[00:18:14] Yeah.

[00:18:15] That was my, that was my actual, for this interview that, that, that y'all are watching right now is this interview.

[00:18:26] I had so much trouble at like trying to figure out what to ask her.

[00:18:30] Cause like, it just was weird.

[00:18:34] Yeah, it can be.

[00:18:35] Cause I did, I did an interview with a musician named Papa D.

[00:18:39] Uh, this is the opposite of that because I did my homework because I knew, I knew nothing about him prior to the interview.

[00:18:45] So I'm like, I am not going to look like an idiot during this interview.

[00:18:48] I'm going to know everything there is to know about this guy.

[00:18:51] And he actually said afterward, he was like, he was like, wow, you, I was one of the better interviews I've done.

[00:18:57] Cause like, you knew about my background.

[00:18:59] You knew about, you know, what I had done, what some, I'm like, yeah, I didn't want to look like an idiot.

[00:19:06] I mean, that's, that's the, that's my concern.

[00:19:08] Like, where's the line of like being taken seriously or just like being a fan boy or being weird or, you know, you don't want to be like that, that weird viral clip at a press junket.

[00:19:19] You know what I mean?

[00:19:20] Like, Hey, those people get famous.

[00:19:23] Yeah, I suppose that's true.

[00:19:24] I will say, I will say though, that part of that was because I have the book to do research on.

[00:19:34] And I got the book like a week later.

[00:19:39] So.

[00:19:40] Fair enough.

[00:19:41] Yeah, that'll very, yeah, that'll very much do it.

[00:19:43] Cause when, when I interviewed Debbie Lynn on my podcast, who wrote the, uh, the unveiled book series, um, I was adamant.

[00:19:52] I, I actually put her off for a little while.

[00:19:54] Cause I was like, no, I want to finish the book.

[00:19:56] I don't want to be grasping at straws and I don't want to say something stupid.

[00:19:59] Like, Oh, that ending, huh?

[00:20:01] And having not read the ending.

[00:20:02] Yeah.

[00:20:03] Oh yeah.

[00:20:04] Yeah.

[00:20:04] Cause yeah.

[00:20:05] Cause I do, I do mine live.

[00:20:07] So I, that would have just been awful.

[00:20:10] Cause a fun fact, the, uh, what are the, yeah.

[00:20:15] The ending is a bit of a curve ball.

[00:20:17] It's not, it's not a standard ending.

[00:20:19] It's very good book.

[00:20:20] I recommend it.

[00:20:21] You can check out that interview on the RTA media YouTube page after this one, of course.

[00:20:26] Um, but yeah, again, that was one of the things she was like, wow, I was kind of, you know, cause I'm not a literary critic at all, but she was like, wow.

[00:20:34] I mean, you had some really good questions that I kind of wasn't prepared for.

[00:20:39] She said, thank God I wrote it.

[00:20:41] Yeah.

[00:20:41] I, my thing with our show is part of the charm of our show is it's just me and Jordan riffing.

[00:20:49] Like it's just me and Jordan.

[00:20:51] I was talking with Jordan about this morning where like, I, I very firmly believe he, he, he disagrees with me on this fact, but I firmly believe he is one of the best improvisers I've ever worked with.

[00:21:02] And, um, a moment where it sort of demonstrates that is where our, with October.

[00:21:10] So it's Halloween.

[00:21:11] And so the podcast is the spooky of the moment podcast.

[00:21:15] And I said, he's the spooky and comparable Jordan without missing a beat.

[00:21:19] He just started going.

[00:21:21] And, and then of course, yes.

[00:21:23] And I was like, he periodically does that.

[00:21:26] And it's something that effect, but the, just like, he's, he's so good at like, just knowing.

[00:21:35] Like how it, where to take a bit.

[00:21:37] So like to do an interview is so structured.

[00:21:39] I don't, is my, I guess is where I'm going with that.

[00:21:42] I don't know how I would bottle that or confine that onto my show, which is why the notion of guests makes me anxious.

[00:21:48] Cause I'm like, I don't know how to like, let's hypothetically say you were to get someone famous.

[00:21:53] Like, how do you confine them to your box?

[00:21:57] I guess if you indeed do that.

[00:22:00] Well, I think, cause here's the, here's the dirty little secret riffing is a learned or I should say riffing is a learnable skill.

[00:22:09] Cause some people do naturally have it, but it's one of those things where the longer you do it, the better you get at it.

[00:22:16] Cause like, that's all we do on average intelligence too, is we just riff and Eric is a master.

[00:22:21] Cause believe it or not on that show, I'm the straight man.

[00:22:25] But, um, I believe it.

[00:22:26] Yeah.

[00:22:27] I haven't been on that show.

[00:22:29] I believe it.

[00:22:29] I was like, it took me a second.

[00:22:30] Oh yeah.

[00:22:31] That's right.

[00:22:31] You did finally come on.

[00:22:32] Yeah.

[00:22:32] So, so, you know, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm the journalist, so to speak.

[00:22:37] And Eric is a master of derailing the conversation, but I love it.

[00:22:41] It's so much.

[00:22:42] Well, it's funny.

[00:22:43] Cause like me and Jordan's dynamic is sort of, it kind of is similar in the sense that like, I'm the film snob and he's the regular guy.

[00:22:51] And so it's just really funny when he's like this week we did the terrifier movies.

[00:22:57] And, uh, he said a really, he said, he said, um, uh, I appreciate what those movies are doing, but they just don't interest me, which is like the most film snobby thing.

[00:23:08] I think he's ever said in his life.

[00:23:10] And I died.

[00:23:11] I thought it was so funny.

[00:23:12] I was like, I love it.

[00:23:13] I love it.

[00:23:14] I've changed him.

[00:23:15] I've turned him into a film snob.

[00:23:17] I've said that so many times, which is why it's fun.

[00:23:19] Cause I'm the opposite on tune talk.

[00:23:21] My mission on to talk is to derail virus any chance I can.

[00:23:26] I mean, he's so easy to derail though.

[00:23:28] I am an agent of chaos on that show.

[00:23:30] And it was so much fun.

[00:23:32] It my, mine is to like, just cause shit with him.

[00:23:38] Like in the comments, I'm always picking shit with it all.

[00:23:41] I don't even, I don't even know if it, I know, I know that you see it.

[00:23:48] I know that you see it.

[00:23:49] You look at the comments every time and I'm just like, you're trying to like stir up shit.

[00:23:54] Sometimes I, sometimes I gotta help.

[00:23:57] Sometimes I got help virus though.

[00:23:58] Like sometimes he says things that he makes me laugh.

[00:24:01] He says things that I think he thinks are like free throws or like real big swings.

[00:24:06] And then no, no, no.

[00:24:07] I think he's, he's right.

[00:24:08] He's technically right.

[00:24:09] And he always seems surprised.

[00:24:10] It's always funny to me.

[00:24:12] Yeah, no, I just, I still maintain that.

[00:24:14] I think I win more often than not.

[00:24:17] I think so.

[00:24:18] I probably agree with that.

[00:24:20] Cause it's like, sometimes I'm just like, that's a reach buddy.

[00:24:23] That's, that's a bit of a reach.

[00:24:26] Sometimes, sometimes he's reaching, but wait, was it, was it?

[00:24:29] He's, he's the anarchist and you're the journalist.

[00:24:32] That's what he says.

[00:24:33] I don't, I don't consider myself a journalist though, but he keeps calling me one.

[00:24:37] So, I mean, I, you, you do, you do the research more than anyone.

[00:24:41] I, I will say that's true, but that comes out of a fear of looking like an idiot.

[00:24:46] I have. Yeah.

[00:24:46] It's the one thing I will say is it's me, me and Jordan together.

[00:24:50] We constantly find ourselves impressed with how well we align as like, like in terms

[00:24:56] of like thinking, like a lot of times, like we think the same way and it's kind of remarkable,

[00:25:02] but like from a different angle, it's yeah.

[00:25:05] There's just a lot of times where we're like, yeah, we're on the same page about this.

[00:25:08] Yeah.

[00:25:09] I would actually recommend though, if you are going to start a podcast and you have a partner,

[00:25:12] whether you do live or recorded, I would recommend, which again, it's not a one size fits all,

[00:25:18] but I would recommend one person being sort of the straight man and the other person,

[00:25:22] sort of like the color commentator, because it can, it can take you down some really interesting

[00:25:27] paths.

[00:25:27] Cause like on average intelligence, I'm the one that normally does like the in-depth research,

[00:25:32] but then Eric will bring up a point that had he done as much research as I had.

[00:25:38] I don't know that he would bring up organically.

[00:25:40] It might feel a little bit like, Hey, but what about this scenario?

[00:25:45] Yeah.

[00:25:45] And you'll see, you'll see me do it all the time.

[00:25:47] You'll see me do it all the time.

[00:25:48] He'll, he'll do it.

[00:25:48] And then I have to go.

[00:25:51] Yeah.

[00:25:52] It turns into an educational experience too, because like your, your co-host becomes a stand

[00:25:58] in for the audience where it's like, you're teaching him a thing as much as you're teaching

[00:26:02] the audience, which is really helpful.

[00:26:05] Right.

[00:26:05] And sometimes he did this once.

[00:26:06] I can't even remember what we were talking about, but basically I was making the point and he just

[00:26:10] makes this real quick aside.

[00:26:11] And I went, shit, there goes my whole argument.

[00:26:15] Yeah.

[00:26:16] Yeah.

[00:26:16] That's happened a few times.

[00:26:17] Like 12 hours of research wasted because I didn't consider that one thing.

[00:26:23] Or during my journal, say something astute that just changes my entire perspective.

[00:26:28] Then when I go to watch my next thing, it impacts what I was going to say.

[00:26:33] Yeah.

[00:26:33] Haven't got that.

[00:26:34] That would be another piece of advice.

[00:26:36] Find yourself a good co-host.

[00:26:37] I don't understand those people who could just do a podcast by themselves.

[00:26:40] I don't understand those guys.

[00:26:42] Like to do a podcast is a conversation.

[00:26:44] Yeah.

[00:26:45] That is definitely learned.

[00:26:47] Fun fact.

[00:26:48] When I first started doing this, I could have never carried a podcast by myself.

[00:26:51] In fact, you can probably go back to an older episode and find out as much, but that's

[00:26:56] another skill that can be learned.

[00:26:58] Some people can, some people can just do it.

[00:27:01] Ironically, it sounds counterintuitive.

[00:27:03] Don't be afraid of the quiet.

[00:27:04] Don't be afraid of the quiet.

[00:27:05] That's the biggest mistake people make is like, if they're thinking, they feel like

[00:27:10] they have to fill the void.

[00:27:12] And then that's when you get your hmms and ah, and all those really annoying sounds that

[00:27:19] everybody tries not to do, but everybody does.

[00:27:22] Yeah.

[00:27:23] Yeah.

[00:27:24] So the words.

[00:27:25] Yeah.

[00:27:25] Just don't, don't be afraid.

[00:27:26] It's ironic too, because you'll find when you're no longer afraid of the pause, you'll

[00:27:30] pause less because it's okay to take a beat and be like, yeah, no, I'm going to rephrase

[00:27:36] that.

[00:27:37] And then just keep going as opposed to, oh no, I said something stupid.

[00:27:40] Oh, what should I say?

[00:27:42] Oh, I haven't talked in a while.

[00:27:43] Shit.

[00:27:45] That's interesting.

[00:27:46] Cause I definitely that I've noticed that happening when I do tick talks.

[00:27:50] Like I did, I did that one about yeah, about Terrifier three and every word was like deliberate.

[00:27:57] And then I took a beat and I'm starting to notice my, but when I'm doing stuff live,

[00:28:02] it's just like, it's because I'm just, that's that is just how I would talk to Jordan off

[00:28:07] the air.

[00:28:08] Like if the camera wasn't there, that's just how we would talk to each other.

[00:28:12] Well, we'd probably be a bit more mean to each other, but.

[00:28:15] Yeah.

[00:28:16] Well, speaking of your Terrifier episode that I saw, I was in your live and I said, I literally

[00:28:24] said, I was like, I don't mind there being a big bang theory reboot.

[00:28:32] Like, oh, well, you were making fun of, uh, they're doing a spinoff of a Stewart spinoff

[00:28:37] for big bang theory.

[00:28:38] Yeah.

[00:28:39] I don't mind.

[00:28:41] Yeah.

[00:28:41] And your face is exactly.

[00:28:43] Yeah.

[00:28:44] The comic book lady, like Stewart, his girlfriend and, um, and, uh, uh, Bert from the university.

[00:28:52] Yeah.

[00:28:54] Yeah.

[00:28:55] Two episodes that.

[00:28:56] See, my point is like Stewart, the whole bit is that the whole joke is that he's not

[00:29:00] the main character.

[00:29:01] Like that's the whole joke.

[00:29:03] That's the whole bit with him.

[00:29:04] That was my point.

[00:29:05] Or is it?

[00:29:06] I don't get it.

[00:29:07] Yeah.

[00:29:08] And, and it's kind of, it's kind of the same joke with Bert.

[00:29:11] He's just kind of always there, but never there.

[00:29:14] Yeah.

[00:29:14] He doesn't leave an impression.

[00:29:15] That's the whole, that's the whole joke.

[00:29:17] Once you make, to be fair though, like later seasons, I, I also said this, they try to give

[00:29:23] him agency and make him a character, but then the joke kind of stops working because

[00:29:27] once you start to feel sore for him, the fact that he's constantly pathetic no longer

[00:29:31] works.

[00:29:31] Yeah.

[00:29:33] But because it's no longer funny because now we know him, but also by that contrast,

[00:29:37] I think it's more interesting than that.

[00:29:41] Mandy Georgie spinoff, which looks bad.

[00:29:45] No, see, I'm opposite on that.

[00:29:48] I, because Georgie.

[00:29:49] Okay.

[00:29:50] Okay.

[00:29:51] As someone who resisted young Sheldon for a very long time, I went for Sheldon and I stayed

[00:29:57] for Georgie.

[00:29:58] Yeah.

[00:29:59] But my, my point though, is that it does, those characters don't belong in that format.

[00:30:04] It just does.

[00:30:04] It feels weird.

[00:30:05] It feels like it's like a dream sequence in an episode of young Sheldon.

[00:30:08] It just doesn't.

[00:30:09] I've seen, I've seen the trailer for it.

[00:30:11] It just doesn't.

[00:30:12] The tone feels weird.

[00:30:15] But I don't know.

[00:30:15] It's just not working for me with those characters.

[00:30:18] Those versions of those characters, I should say.

[00:30:22] Yeah.

[00:30:23] But travel, travel back in time, back in your memory, go into your mental time machine

[00:30:27] and remind yourself of what it was like when you saw the first commercial for young Sheldon.

[00:30:32] And I don't know if you agree with me.

[00:30:35] My first thought was why the fuck would I want to watch a show about little kid Sheldon?

[00:30:41] Yeah.

[00:30:42] It turned out to be good.

[00:30:43] I, I, I don't, but I was very wrong.

[00:30:45] I mean, this is sort of the sorry television equivalent of like those videos where they

[00:30:51] take something, put it into Google translate and then put it back into English.

[00:30:54] That's what that, that's like the sitcom equivalent to that is what it looks like.

[00:30:58] No, that would be Joey.

[00:31:00] Touche.

[00:31:01] Touche.

[00:31:01] I can do that.

[00:31:02] Oh God.

[00:31:04] Halloween box opening.

[00:31:08] Spicy pumpkin.

[00:31:13] Witch's brew.

[00:31:18] Halloween themed pop out wax tarts.

[00:31:20] Jack.

[00:31:23] Jack.

[00:31:23] Co-lantern spicy pumpkin candle.

[00:31:27] Dragon's blood.

[00:31:28] Happy Halloween.

[00:31:31] How are you doing Joey?

[00:31:33] Not, not well.

[00:31:34] Not one season Joey.

[00:31:36] One season.

[00:31:37] Why?

[00:31:39] Yeah, there's so many better.

[00:31:42] I mean, it'd be for my, my pitches.

[00:31:44] My pitch for, for, for friends follow up show is it's a sequel and it's about the kids and

[00:31:52] you get like young adult Ben and, and Emma.

[00:31:55] And like that way the original cast can like guest star in and out as much as they want.

[00:32:00] They don't have to commit to a full series.

[00:32:02] And you have new characters.

[00:32:04] That 90s show fuller house girl meets world.

[00:32:07] It's been canceled.

[00:32:07] Those, those shows.

[00:32:08] I actually like all those shows.

[00:32:10] That 90s show got canceled though.

[00:32:11] Oh man.

[00:32:12] I feel like they finally found their footing.

[00:32:15] I.

[00:32:16] Yeah.

[00:32:16] It got canceled.

[00:32:16] I'm not a big enough that 70s show fan to really, but yes, I, I, I said that after

[00:32:22] which I don't know which one it was, but you mean Jordan have talked about the, those

[00:32:26] shows like the, um, I, I, I'm always a sequel series.

[00:32:30] I'm always way more interested in a sequel series because I always want to know what's

[00:32:33] happening to the characters in the future.

[00:32:35] Like I'm much more interested in finding out what happened to them rather than seeing

[00:32:38] someone else do a different version of the same character, but that's just me.

[00:32:43] No, I agree with that.

[00:32:44] Um, yeah, this is going to be out of left field and I promise it's the last one.

[00:32:48] Um, as we're, we're diverting, which you, you and I are the problem again.

[00:32:52] We're the problem.

[00:32:53] Yeah, no, we're the problem.

[00:32:54] Yeah.

[00:32:54] Um, I don't, I don't know.

[00:32:55] Hey, I don't think you've seen this, Justin.

[00:32:58] That might be presumptuous of me, but maybe Haley has.

[00:33:00] Did anybody watch the Carrie diaries?

[00:33:03] Yes.

[00:33:03] Um, I am familiar with it.

[00:33:05] I'm not a huge sexist.

[00:33:07] I, I, I watched sex in the city once when I was a teenager and someone made fun of me

[00:33:11] for it and I just became self-conscious of watching it.

[00:33:13] So I've never actually gotten into it other than the movies.

[00:33:17] And that's only because I worked at the movie theater and the first movie is like two and a half hours long for some absurd reason.

[00:33:25] I actually liked it.

[00:33:27] I love it.

[00:33:28] The show or the movies?

[00:33:29] The show, the movies were hot garbage.

[00:33:32] So I've heard a lot of people say that it's the show's good.

[00:33:34] Okay.

[00:33:36] The, the, the, sex in the city?

[00:33:37] I love the movies.

[00:33:38] Yeah.

[00:33:39] No, sex in the city.

[00:33:40] Okay.

[00:33:40] Here's the thing about sex in the city.

[00:33:42] It's worth watching.

[00:33:43] I don't know which I'm so not its target demographic, but it's worth watching.

[00:33:47] I don't know that the review ability is really there, but it's, it's a good show.

[00:33:52] It's worth watching.

[00:33:53] Here's the thing about the movies though.

[00:33:54] Haley.

[00:33:55] I watched good too.

[00:33:57] I watched the first two episodes.

[00:33:59] I'm just so bored with it.

[00:34:00] I want to get into it, but it's okay.

[00:34:04] I've heard it's okay.

[00:34:05] It's, it's not awful here.

[00:34:06] Here's the reason why I say the movies are hot garbage though.

[00:34:09] The second one is the second one is dredge.

[00:34:12] It's it's.

[00:34:12] I've heard that.

[00:34:13] It's the one where you get this.

[00:34:15] You get this.

[00:34:16] Nevermind.

[00:34:17] I can't.

[00:34:17] I can't.

[00:34:17] It's a sexist joke.

[00:34:18] I can't.

[00:34:19] Do it.

[00:34:21] Do it.

[00:34:21] You get to see Alice.

[00:34:22] You get to see Alice.

[00:34:24] You know, exposed chest.

[00:34:27] She was a, she was a big thing for a while there.

[00:34:29] She was, she was, she was in, she's out of your league with Jay Baruchel.

[00:34:36] No, not ringing any bells.

[00:34:37] She was the Irish babysitter in the second sex of the movie.

[00:34:41] The.

[00:34:42] She's the one who you're talking.

[00:34:44] Yes.

[00:34:45] Okay.

[00:34:45] Yep.

[00:34:45] Yeah.

[00:34:46] Yeah.

[00:34:46] Well, that's okay.

[00:34:46] In the first one, you get to see what's his name?

[00:34:48] Dante.

[00:34:49] You get to see Dante side dick.

[00:34:50] So, I mean, it's.

[00:34:51] That's true.

[00:34:52] It's going all around.

[00:34:55] Sorry.

[00:34:56] The thing about the.

[00:34:57] We're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just smutting up your.

[00:35:01] We're smutting up over here.

[00:35:02] I am so sorry to all of my viewers.

[00:35:05] They're the problem.

[00:35:06] I'm not the problem.

[00:35:07] It's them.

[00:35:08] I'm just trying to save Justin from his sexism.

[00:35:11] That you sure you did.

[00:35:12] You did.

[00:35:13] The thing about that first movie is.

[00:35:15] It was when I worked at the movie theater.

[00:35:17] So I have certain, I have certain associations of, of memories of like seeing parts of it

[00:35:22] as I, as like, so I've never actually seen it in one sitting.

[00:35:25] I've just seen like all of it over the course of several five minute chunks.

[00:35:30] And, and I just.

[00:35:31] So like.

[00:35:32] Yeah.

[00:35:33] And I would have to be at work to like 2am for this not very good movie.

[00:35:39] So like, that's my, my memory of it.

[00:35:42] So like, I don't have fond memories of it, not because I think it's a bad movie, but merely

[00:35:47] because I would have to be at work till 2am.

[00:35:50] So.

[00:35:51] Mine's, mine's kind of similar.

[00:35:53] My whole thing is, do you, do you guys ever have, I don't know if this is a common thing

[00:35:56] or if it's just me, do you guys have like a, a certain movie where it doesn't matter what

[00:36:02] you're doing.

[00:36:03] You could be not tired at all, but you put it in and it just makes you sleepy and you

[00:36:07] generally fall asleep at the same part every time.

[00:36:10] Yeah.

[00:36:11] That was the Godfather.

[00:36:12] The longest time.

[00:36:14] So mine is the sex in the city movie.

[00:36:16] What's yours, Haley?

[00:36:20] I have so many.

[00:36:21] I have so many.

[00:36:24] So it's so bad for me.

[00:36:25] And I don't know how this happened.

[00:36:27] Um.

[00:36:29] I had seen it.

[00:36:30] A number of times because at the time I was married and it had just come to home video

[00:36:36] and my ex-wife was obsessed with it.

[00:36:38] So it was playing fairly often, but generally speaking.

[00:36:42] I start to get really tired about the time she throws the bouquet at big.

[00:36:46] And then I'm generally unconscious by the time they get to the honeymoon destination.

[00:36:51] I mean, it's a really long movie for no reason.

[00:36:54] Like I think the second one's not, I think the second one's about two hours.

[00:36:58] It's not nearly, or just under two hours.

[00:37:00] It's not nearly as long.

[00:37:01] But that first one is like, it's two hours and 20 minutes.

[00:37:04] I'm almost entirely positive.

[00:37:06] It is an absurdly long movie.

[00:37:08] Mine is like the second hocus pocus.

[00:37:11] That one is just not all.

[00:37:13] I, I, I think it's really, it's really quite funny because for my show, like I mentioned

[00:37:18] previously, we're doing a month long Halloween special because we, we didn't specifically aid

[00:37:23] for the goosebumps guys, but it just kind of worked out that way.

[00:37:25] But the, the last week when I'm doing your, your, your hocus pocus episode is family friendly

[00:37:33] week, just coincidentally.

[00:37:35] So I'm just going to watch it for our show as well.

[00:37:38] So that's, that's a thing that I have to look forward to.

[00:37:42] And the first thing Jordan said, when I said I was going to watch that second hocus pocus

[00:37:45] movie was the thing you said, which was that it was bad.

[00:37:48] Yeah.

[00:37:50] Yeah.

[00:37:50] And, and, and they're doing a third, a third.

[00:37:54] How many times can we go to this?

[00:37:56] Well, I, here's the thing.

[00:37:59] Here's the, here's the thing preemptively.

[00:38:01] Um, before I, before I rewatched the first one and watch the second one for the first

[00:38:05] time, I don't care for the, for the first one.

[00:38:10] Just generally, like in terms of like, it grew on me.

[00:38:13] It very much grew on me.

[00:38:15] Love the first one.

[00:38:17] The second one is hot garbage.

[00:38:19] The third one's going to be even worse.

[00:38:21] That tells me I'm going to, that tells me I'm going to like the second one.

[00:38:23] I just don't like it.

[00:38:26] That's true.

[00:38:27] Justin likes the silly.

[00:38:29] I like, I like me some silly.

[00:38:30] I, I, I just don't, I didn't like that movie as a kid.

[00:38:34] It's weird.

[00:38:34] It's totally, it's too dark for a kid's movie.

[00:38:38] Like I didn't, as an adult, I find the weird obsession with the fact that he, that there's

[00:38:42] virgins to be weird for a Disney movie.

[00:38:45] It's hilarious.

[00:38:46] It's my favorite joke.

[00:38:47] Like it's just, yeah, there's just elements of it that are like, I prefer Halloween town.

[00:38:52] Like Jordan gets to watch Halloween town.

[00:38:53] Wow.

[00:38:54] For a split second.

[00:38:55] I thought you were just leaving it at Halloween and I'm like, that's a, no, that's next.

[00:38:59] That's a turd.

[00:39:00] That's Halloween.

[00:39:00] That's like, that's a turd.

[00:39:02] It's like, yeah.

[00:39:03] Cause like, you know, when he stabs the kid.

[00:39:06] Well, it's funny.

[00:39:06] Cause cause obviously yeah.

[00:39:08] Terrifying movies.

[00:39:09] Watch terrifying movies.

[00:39:09] So Jordan's pretty upset with me right now.

[00:39:11] And his soul is pretty blackened.

[00:39:13] And so I said, don't, don't just, just, just think of it this way.

[00:39:16] Next week.

[00:39:17] You're going to watch the Friday the 13th movies.

[00:39:19] They're practically Disney movies by comparison.

[00:39:21] They're relatively lighthearted.

[00:39:24] I'm like, I'm looking for a lighthearted 1970s Halloween, Michael Myers movie.

[00:39:28] I'm really looking forward to that.

[00:39:31] It's going to be super easy going.

[00:39:33] You mentioned Halloween town and my instant thought, my, my head instantly goes to first

[00:39:39] one's great.

[00:39:40] Second one's good.

[00:39:41] And the third one is garbage.

[00:39:44] I think the third one's still okay.

[00:39:46] Cause I don't, I don't look.

[00:39:49] Okay.

[00:39:49] This is what I will say.

[00:39:50] I do not disagree with you that it is not as good as the first two, but it's not as

[00:39:56] bad as the fourth one because at least the original girl is still in it.

[00:39:59] Wait, fourth one.

[00:40:00] When was there?

[00:40:00] There's a fourth one where they go to a university.

[00:40:04] It's called.

[00:40:05] That's the third one.

[00:40:05] I thought.

[00:40:06] No, there's four.

[00:40:07] The third one is Halloween town.

[00:40:12] Second one is Calabar's revenge.

[00:40:15] Okay.

[00:40:16] I know way too much about these movies.

[00:40:18] I was just about to say, isn't that the same ranking system that you would give high

[00:40:21] school musical?

[00:40:23] Yeah.

[00:40:24] Well, I think I, I, I, I.

[00:40:26] All the high school musicals were good.

[00:40:28] I like, I love it.

[00:40:30] I like the high school musical.

[00:40:31] Wait, there's a series.

[00:40:32] There's a series on Disney.

[00:40:34] There's a series.

[00:40:34] The series is the musical, the series.

[00:40:38] It's okay.

[00:40:38] This is, you're going to appreciate this.

[00:40:39] So it takes place.

[00:40:40] This is mean girls all over again.

[00:40:42] There's too much.

[00:40:42] I'm getting confused.

[00:40:43] It takes, it takes place in the, in the school that high school musical was filmed

[00:40:48] at where they realize that, that they've never put on a production of high school musical,

[00:40:55] the musical at the school in which high school musical was filmed.

[00:40:58] So it's called high school musical, the musical, the series.

[00:41:03] Yeah.

[00:41:04] Okay.

[00:41:04] Hang on.

[00:41:05] I'm just, I'm going to lay this out to make sure I've got it straight.

[00:41:08] Yeah.

[00:41:08] This is a, this is a series.

[00:41:10] Yes, it is.

[00:41:11] Dude.

[00:41:11] In which students who attend the school in which high school musical, the movie was shot

[00:41:17] in realize that they through some odd coincidence of fate have never put on a stage production

[00:41:26] of high school musical in their school, wherein the film high school musical was shot.

[00:41:32] Yes, that's absolutely correct.

[00:41:34] And, and so that, that first season is about them putting on the musical high school and

[00:41:39] it was even okay.

[00:41:40] No, but that's not even the funniest part, Jake.

[00:41:42] The funniest part is a, the second season, they do not do high school musical too, for some

[00:41:46] reason only to in the third season, finally do high school musical three and the cast, the

[00:41:51] original cast of the high school musical guest star as themselves where they are filming

[00:41:57] high school musical four at the original high school.

[00:42:01] Corbin blue.

[00:42:02] Corbin blue.

[00:42:02] How high.

[00:42:03] How high were these people?

[00:42:05] It's kind of, it's not that bad.

[00:42:08] Honestly, it's not that bad.

[00:42:09] It sounds, it sounds way sillier than it honestly is.

[00:42:12] No, this sounds like some MCU shit.

[00:42:14] It's MCU.

[00:42:15] Oh my God.

[00:42:17] Yeah.

[00:42:17] A little bit, a little bit.

[00:42:19] It's like, no man, no man.

[00:42:21] Hear me out.

[00:42:21] Hear me out.

[00:42:22] The kids love Zac Efron in that movie.

[00:42:25] And they're in the school where they shot the movie.

[00:42:27] So they're like, we could be Zac Efron.

[00:42:30] I mean, yeah, it's like that.

[00:42:32] Oh, there's TikToks with that guy who's like the, he's the guy pitching Mad Lib style.

[00:42:36] He's just doing okay.

[00:42:38] Okay.

[00:42:39] Okay.

[00:42:39] Give me, give me, give me a, give me a musical.

[00:42:41] Give me a Disney musical.

[00:42:42] Uh, there's like Mad Lib style.

[00:42:46] I find that.

[00:42:47] I find that.

[00:42:49] Yeah.

[00:42:50] Corbin blue.

[00:42:50] Corbin blue comes back.

[00:42:52] Lucas Gabriel comes back.

[00:42:54] Yeah.

[00:42:54] They confirmed that actually it's funny.

[00:42:56] Cause me and my friends got into a huge debate because they confirm in that season

[00:43:00] that he's actually gay.

[00:43:02] Like they, like they have him.

[00:43:03] He's got a, he's got a husband and kids and they're like, Oh, he's, he's gay.

[00:43:06] And I liked that.

[00:43:08] Cause I was like, no, the character, they finally, they had the character reveal themselves

[00:43:12] as gay.

[00:43:12] The character.

[00:43:14] Yeah.

[00:43:16] Ryan is gay.

[00:43:18] Yeah.

[00:43:18] Ryan is, Ryan is, is revealed as gay.

[00:43:21] Remind me who's Ryan again.

[00:43:23] He's Sharpay's brother.

[00:43:24] Okay.

[00:43:25] That's my brother.

[00:43:26] Duh.

[00:43:26] Yeah, I know.

[00:43:27] But I always, I was like, but that's so obvious.

[00:43:29] Like in a way that wasn't interesting to me.

[00:43:32] This is, this is why the show is too confusing.

[00:43:35] Okay.

[00:43:36] Is Ryan gay or is the actor that portrays Ryan gay in a series?

[00:43:40] The actor, the actor who portrays him shows up and in the, in the season they're filming

[00:43:45] High School Musical four.

[00:43:47] So it's revealed, it revealed in High School Musical four that the character Ryan is canonically

[00:43:52] gay.

[00:43:56] Okay.

[00:43:56] I think I understand.

[00:43:58] His mind is blown.

[00:44:01] Well, no, no, because I just, I just want to make sure I understand.

[00:44:05] And so, so the character.

[00:44:07] Like the whole entire time, the whole entire time I can just see your head like about to

[00:44:12] explode.

[00:44:13] Cause like you're trying to figure it out.

[00:44:15] The trailer is hilarious.

[00:44:15] The trailer is hilarious.

[00:44:16] They have to explain the premise and it's amazing.

[00:44:19] Like, it's like, what is this?

[00:44:21] Like, who is this for?

[00:44:23] I don't, but people love it.

[00:44:25] It's a very popular series.

[00:44:26] How many layers can we put into this cake here?

[00:44:28] Yeah.

[00:44:29] But that, but that everyone is a classed example of riffing happening naturally.

[00:44:34] So see, starting a podcast isn't really as hard as you think it is.

[00:44:37] You just have to jump over the first hurdle and start doing it.

[00:44:40] Cause let's be right.

[00:44:40] And I think we can all agree.

[00:44:41] Your first episode is going to be, well, not garbage, but it's not going to be stellar.

[00:44:46] It's going to be, you're going to be very much finding your footing.

[00:44:49] By, generally by about episode.

[00:44:52] My first episode wasn't, I mean, my first episode wasn't, it wasn't garbage, but it wasn't great.

[00:44:57] Certainly not compared.

[00:44:58] Like I go back and watch old episodes that I've done and I'm like, oh my God.

[00:45:02] We, I mean, me and Jordan, it, it, that it, there's definitely a trajectory of improvement with,

[00:45:08] with ours, but it helps that we know each other so thoroughly.

[00:45:12] So like, it's not to say garbage, but it got better.

[00:45:16] Definitely.

[00:45:17] Like, Hey, I'm not picking on you, Haley.

[00:45:19] It's just a good thing to point out.

[00:45:21] Cause like, if you go back and watch your first episode, you got both you and Jensen,

[00:45:24] who was with you in the episode are very much trying to follow a structure.

[00:45:29] And, but you don't know what that structure is.

[00:45:31] So you're kind of, you're not making it up, but you're, I don't know how to say this properly.

[00:45:36] It's like, you're trying to do it one way and clearly that way didn't work.

[00:45:41] So the next episode is shifted.

[00:45:43] And then you keep, you kind of keep doing that until you find, you know, a method that

[00:45:48] works.

[00:45:48] And sometimes you'll do different ones.

[00:45:50] Like for example, and this is funny because the other thing we're plugging today is we've

[00:45:54] sort of mentioned it across the podcast network, but I'm going to say it definitively here.

[00:45:59] We're going to put Hamilton on trial right here on the part of your Broadway world podcast.

[00:46:05] Cause I am tired of this musical trancing about being like, look at me.

[00:46:09] I'm fantastic.

[00:46:10] And it's like, no, you're not.

[00:46:13] It does trace about being like, look at me.

[00:46:14] I'm fantastic.

[00:46:15] It is though.

[00:46:16] Is it though?

[00:46:17] Well, so that's what we were going to decide, but fun fact, completely independent of this,

[00:46:22] which this was first, the idea for this was first on tune top 2.0 virus comes to me one

[00:46:30] day.

[00:46:30] He was like, we're going to put characters on trial.

[00:46:32] I'm like, did you watch the show?

[00:46:34] He was like, what are you talking about?

[00:46:35] I'm like, okay, no, you didn't.

[00:46:36] So this idea came up completely organically.

[00:46:39] Apparently he was inspired by a comedian who did something similar.

[00:46:43] And we put on trial very randomly.

[00:46:47] We put on trial Goku, Darth Vader, and specifically the George Clooney Batman.

[00:46:52] Yeah, very specifically the George.

[00:46:53] Cause I just watched Batman versus Robin and I kind of realized I didn't hate that movie

[00:46:57] as much as I was expecting to.

[00:46:59] So fun fact though, if you go back and watch that episode, which I highly recommend both

[00:47:03] for polarity, you to watch in real time, us come up with a concept because it's very

[00:47:09] much morphs from how it's supposed to be one way.

[00:47:12] And by the time you reached the end, we completely changed the format.

[00:47:16] That, that was just, do you want to talk riffing?

[00:47:18] And that was me just pulling just like shit out of my ass.

[00:47:22] I didn't even, I went into the, to the George Clooney Batman with one argument and it just

[00:47:27] turned into me making another argument.

[00:47:30] Like, like it just turned into me tearing into Robert Pattinson's Batman for some reason.

[00:47:34] It was, it was, it was great.

[00:47:37] My favorite, my favorite moment though, is I have to shout out virus.

[00:47:40] My favorite moment will forever be, and I need you to make it into a short of his opening

[00:47:46] statement, his opening statement for Goku because it, it Haley, you're not a Dragon Ball fan.

[00:47:53] I don't imagine, but it is as a Dragon Ball fan simultaneously, a surprisingly accurate

[00:47:59] opening statement and unbelievably just character assassination.

[00:48:05] Like you would not believe.

[00:48:06] And it was, it was brilliant.

[00:48:08] It made me go, I, I was on Jake's side, but I'm like, Jake, he needs my help.

[00:48:16] No, it's, it's, it's quite a thing to behold because again, if you, if you're a Dragon Ball fan,

[00:48:20] you will see that this is simultaneously like a really good synopsis.

[00:48:25] And also just obvious he's never watched the show a day in his life.

[00:48:29] I was watching, I was, I was watching it and like, I gotta say Jake, your woman

[00:48:37] appreciated for Leia.

[00:48:38] It was just spot on.

[00:48:40] Oh, I mean, it was nowhere near spot on.

[00:48:43] It was spot on as a woman.

[00:48:46] Jake's, Jake's ability to, uh, I mean, you're, you're Obi-Wan.

[00:48:49] The Obi-Wan was pretty phenomenal.

[00:48:52] I tried.

[00:49:27] I just love hearing Ewan McGregor tell that story about when he gets, uh, what is, you

[00:49:32] know, we see somebody like run a stop sign or something and he pulls up next to him

[00:49:35] and he's like, and I'm burrating him and I'm saying this and he just stares at me.

[00:49:38] And it's like, that's fucking Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[00:49:42] I mean, my two, my two favorite voice.

[00:49:45] I mean, besides the, besides the Trump impression, which gets me every time, but I don't, I don't,

[00:49:50] I don't know how much we, I don't know how much we could talk about it, but a project that

[00:49:53] we're currently working on, uh, you do it, you do it, you do it like a foppish British

[00:49:58] boy, foppish British man that I struggle not to laugh every time you do his voice.

[00:50:05] Like it is, it is an objectively funny character.

[00:50:07] So fun, funny, funny.

[00:50:09] You mentioned that because that that's going to be dropping soon, but funny.

[00:50:11] You mentioned that because that's why I laughed when you said Hugh Grant, because I, from day

[00:50:16] one, just reading the script, I'm like, Oh, this dude, Hugh Grant.

[00:50:19] Yeah.

[00:50:20] Yeah.

[00:50:20] That's that's, I was just like, I was like when you were like, yeah, it was charming.

[00:50:24] What did you say?

[00:50:25] Charmingly befuddled.

[00:50:26] It's a, it's a family guy joke when he's making fun of Hugh Ray.

[00:50:28] He's like, Oh, I'm so charmingly befuddled.

[00:50:30] Yeah.

[00:50:31] That's exactly like, that's exactly what I think of.

[00:50:33] Like I, I, I enjoy that character so much.

[00:50:36] He's directing me.

[00:50:38] But he's directing me in the first episode and he was like different.

[00:50:41] I'm like, what do you mean different?

[00:50:42] He's British and confused.

[00:50:44] What more do you want?

[00:50:45] Right.

[00:50:46] Right.

[00:50:46] Yeah.

[00:50:47] And it makes it, and it makes it funnier when, when, yeah, when you have action

[00:50:51] sequence, but anyway, I don't, yeah, I don't know if we're allowed to talk about that

[00:50:53] yet.

[00:50:54] We can't say that.

[00:50:55] We can't say the name, but just so you know, an audio drama is coming.

[00:50:59] So we've, we've, it's going to be good.

[00:51:03] I think it's going to be good.

[00:51:04] I think it's going to be good.

[00:51:06] I know it's going to be good.

[00:51:08] Cause, uh, and it's, it's really funny.

[00:51:10] I didn't agree with the format at first, but having heard it, I'm like, okay.

[00:51:15] Yeah.

[00:51:15] Right.

[00:51:16] Getting, getting to hear, having the audio engineer there and having him show us like

[00:51:21] how it works.

[00:51:22] That was really beneficial to me.

[00:51:24] Like I was, I really, I really appreciate that.

[00:51:26] I was like, Oh, it's really getting to see a thing as it comes together.

[00:51:29] It just, it's so much easier to believe in the vision, I guess the lack of a better.

[00:51:35] Yeah.

[00:51:35] That's another perk though, of, uh, coming into this merry band of podcasters though, as you

[00:51:40] get to, it's like you said, he literally, Max literally came when he was like, Hey,

[00:51:45] we're going to turn this into an audio book.

[00:51:47] Who wants in?

[00:51:48] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:51:49] Yeah.

[00:51:49] My, one thing I will say that is of a benefit that has helped, helped us generally is the

[00:51:54] sense of camaraderie and that like having people who consistently like your shit on the internet,

[00:52:02] like instrumental, like we're, we're, we're on Tik TOK.

[00:52:06] We're our, we've got maybe 30 followers, but I'm doing 600, 700, like sometimes a thousand

[00:52:15] videos or views of video.

[00:52:17] Sometimes on Tik TOK, my videos do better than they do on YouTube and vice versa.

[00:52:21] And that all comes from having people who consistently the algorithmically speaking, the

[00:52:26] algorithm loves it.

[00:52:29] When, when you have people with, they perceive you, even though, even though we're cohorts,

[00:52:34] they perceive you as audience members constantly liking my stuff.

[00:52:37] And that boosts the shit and boosts your stuff.

[00:52:40] And that is part of the benefit of being in the network.

[00:52:42] Cause you have a core group of people that will do that all the time.

[00:52:46] And that helps rising tide all ships.

[00:52:49] Yeah.

[00:52:50] Then that's very much the mentality.

[00:52:52] So there's so many perks and I don't want to try to oversell it, but it literally costs

[00:52:57] you nothing except you, you might be inclined to buy some software, but you can literally do

[00:53:01] this for free.

[00:53:02] I guess.

[00:53:03] I mean, there, well, there's a minor investment in getting like a decent microphone.

[00:53:08] And although, but honestly, I upgraded.

[00:53:13] And now I listened to like, we did the first five or six episodes of the final frontier with

[00:53:20] my older microphone, which was fine.

[00:53:22] But comparatively speaking, it's like night and day.

[00:53:25] I mean, we went, we went from Bluetooth headsets, like our first three or four episodes.

[00:53:32] We were both on Bluetooth headsets.

[00:53:33] And yeah, we went to was the, our, our already award winning episode, uh, Jordan's birthday

[00:53:41] special, I believe was the first episode.

[00:53:43] We went to the Yeti mics and, uh, yeah, ever you can, you can, like I can, uh, Jordan makes

[00:53:49] fun of me because he calls me a narcissist, but, um, I I've started listening to when I'm

[00:53:53] just listening to our podcast and on the Yeti, we sound professional.

[00:53:58] Like it's a, it's a totally different animal, but I'm glad you brought up already award winning

[00:54:02] because that's another perk is if you have a podcast on the network, you become eligible

[00:54:07] for the arties, including the coveted podcast of the year award, which you can't see because

[00:54:12] of my background, but you get a custom made belt.

[00:54:15] You get a belt when you win.

[00:54:16] We're coming for the belt.

[00:54:18] That belt, I keep saying that belt will look great on my wall.

[00:54:22] Yeah.

[00:54:22] Fun fact.

[00:54:23] It was supposed to go on my wall, but it's actually too heavy.

[00:54:25] So I got to read.

[00:54:25] I don't think it'll have to go on my wall.

[00:54:27] I, I, I, I don't have my art, my artie with me currently, but we usually use it to

[00:54:32] sell trophy smack.

[00:54:33] Yeah.

[00:54:34] And then you're also joking aside, good quality.

[00:54:36] Yeah.

[00:54:37] And you're also eligible for the average intelligence world championship, which is currently, um,

[00:54:44] would you say there's yet to be a champion crown, but it's going to happen soon.

[00:54:48] And then everybody in and, you know, like tertiary surrounding the network are eligible to compete

[00:54:54] for this.

[00:54:55] So, um, that's also cool.

[00:54:57] So originally we had the all events welcome championship, but it has been retired.

[00:55:01] But if you go to art media dot, or you can see the entire history of that championship and the absurdity that it is.

[00:55:07] Um, it was once one.

[00:55:09] The staring contest.

[00:55:11] So just to give you an idea.

[00:55:13] All right.

[00:55:14] Of, of, of the silly.

[00:55:16] There's a bunch of perks, but back to this trial, cause I want to make sure people understand what's going on here.

[00:55:21] Um, but you can check out.

[00:55:23] So it's going to be, it's going to be very funny.

[00:55:25] I intend to make this extremely comedic.

[00:55:27] Um, but at the same time I'm coming for Hamilton and I I'm going to expose it for the mediocre show that it is.

[00:55:33] Is this a, is this the one that this is the one I get to judge, right?

[00:55:36] Yes.

[00:55:37] You will be the judge.

[00:55:38] I judge jury and I execute.

[00:55:40] If I decided if I, if I, uh,

[00:55:43] Yes.

[00:55:44] Do I, do I get, do I get to administer, uh, a punishment?

[00:55:48] You can administer punishment.

[00:55:49] Yes.

[00:55:49] So you get, you get to handle sentencing.

[00:55:52] All right.

[00:55:53] All right.

[00:55:54] I promise to be a fair and impartial judge.

[00:55:58] That's why I, that's why I asked you to be the judge.

[00:56:00] Cause you're literally somebody who was like, no, hate it, but I don't love it.

[00:56:05] It's just kind of there for me.

[00:56:07] It makes sense that a Canadian, it makes sense that a Canadian should judge Hamilton though.

[00:56:11] I will say that the thing, the reason why I feel I'm the most qualified person to, to, to, to be the judge is the only other one I would say would be equally qualified would be at my cohost Jordan.

[00:56:21] And that's simply because when you, when you pointed out the fact that they give away the ending at the beginning, I immediately went, huh?

[00:56:27] I hadn't thought of that before.

[00:56:29] That's such a valid point.

[00:56:31] Dang it.

[00:56:33] The only thing I haven't worked out yet is dude.

[00:56:35] I mean, we can't, I don't know that we can really have witnesses per se, although I bet we could have Max in as a funny Lin-Manuel Miranda.

[00:56:42] We need to get someone, we need to get someone who could do a decent Lin-Manuel Miranda impression.

[00:56:47] Oh, just somebody who can rap media with mediocre skill to the same beat and everything he does.

[00:56:52] Yeah.

[00:56:52] I'm sure we can find that.

[00:56:54] I mean, yeah, it's, it's actually, if you want to know something really funny, if you listen to a song, is it?

[00:57:02] Uh, Washington on your side from Hamilton, I think.

[00:57:06] And you're welcome.

[00:57:07] There's a point in the middle where it's literally the same musical breakdown song.

[00:57:11] It's literally, yeah.

[00:57:13] And I noticed that one day.

[00:57:14] And then once you notice that you can't unnotice it.

[00:57:16] And then because I'm a monster, I pointed it out to Jordan so that he can't unnotice it.

[00:57:21] That's what I always do.

[00:57:22] I'm a monster.

[00:57:23] Well, it's right up there with Papa.

[00:57:25] Can you hear me?

[00:57:25] And do you want to build a snowman?

[00:57:27] Or, um, you know, uh, green day.

[00:57:31] Yeah.

[00:57:32] You know, the song 21 guns.

[00:57:34] Yep.

[00:57:34] You know, the guitar solo is just the full house theme song.

[00:57:47] Oh my God.

[00:57:47] Did you not know that?

[00:57:49] I'm not, I'm not a huge green day fan.

[00:57:51] So I'd never put it together.

[00:57:52] I, I, I, my, I, I pointed that out to my cousin once when we were playing rock band.

[00:57:58] It blew his fucking mind.

[00:57:59] He was like, replay that.

[00:58:00] Replay that song.

[00:58:01] He was like, Oh my God, it is.

[00:58:05] Well, I think before we become the problem for too much longer, because we can, we are the

[00:58:09] problem.

[00:58:10] Justin and I can literally go for five hours.

[00:58:13] We have to cut ourselves off because it was like shit.

[00:58:18] Yeah.

[00:58:19] We should, that should be, we should do a special one time, Justin, and see how long we can go.

[00:58:26] I mean, if we, we look, if, if we get enough subscribers, we are enough followers on all our pages, we should do a subathon and on like Twitch or something and do like, yeah, see if we can do like 10, 12 hours.

[00:58:43] I, when we were, when we were, when we were doing the Kickstarter, I did pitch that and y'all were too busy, but I did pitch that to as like doing a telethon or something.

[00:58:55] But yeah, we should do that where we just see how long we could be live.

[00:58:58] I'm kind of scared.

[00:59:01] I think we can do it for a while.

[00:59:03] I feel, I feel like I could.

[00:59:05] I mean, I don't know.

[00:59:07] I don't know.

[00:59:07] I may, I may have to like get up in the middle to go to the bathroom, but I feel like I could.

[00:59:14] Oh yeah.

[00:59:14] Yeah.

[00:59:15] We're allotted.

[00:59:16] We're allotted bathroom breaks.

[00:59:18] Yeah.

[00:59:18] It's just so funny.

[00:59:19] Cause I used to be real, real, like, ah, man, I don't think I could like, I'd watch Joe

[00:59:23] Rogan.

[00:59:24] I'd be like, I don't know how that guy could talk for four hours.

[00:59:27] And now I'm like, Jordan has to, Jordan has to restrain me.

[00:59:32] Yeah.

[00:59:32] It's like you get the right person on the other microphone.

[00:59:35] It's true.

[00:59:36] I get it.

[00:59:37] I get it.

[00:59:38] But are there any other things you guys would like to mention in terms of the podcast network

[00:59:43] and or Hamilton?

[00:59:45] I would say that the thing I respect the most about our network is that we don't all exist

[00:59:53] on the same spectrum of, of like the world.

[00:59:57] Um, and that we could all disagree civilly.

[01:00:00] We prove that the world can disagree civilly on things and that we can put Hamilton on trial

[01:00:07] and still be friends afterwards.

[01:00:08] Cause it's all still be friends afterwards.

[01:00:11] Um, I am.

[01:00:12] I'm actually, I'm actually very proud of that fact though.

[01:00:14] Cause that's one of the things I'm adamant about because I mean it when I say barring

[01:00:19] like a handful of just really extreme positions that I won't tolerate.

[01:00:23] Like everybody's got a voice here and I can disagree with you 100%.

[01:00:28] Like for example, we're not going to have a neo-Nazi podcast.

[01:00:31] That's not happening ever.

[01:00:33] Right.

[01:00:33] I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be friends with the guy who's pro murder.

[01:00:38] No, that's not happening.

[01:00:40] But like, like I said, barring a handful of just like ridiculous things like truly.

[01:00:46] Yeah.

[01:00:46] Yeah, exactly.

[01:00:47] Like people that take six year olds to watch.

[01:00:49] Uh, dude, I can't, what's that?

[01:00:52] What's that movie crap?

[01:00:54] I can't remember it.

[01:00:55] Terrifier three.

[01:00:56] Terrifier.

[01:00:56] I almost a dream weaver.

[01:00:57] I'm like, that's not right.

[01:00:58] But yeah, man, that, Oh my goodness.

[01:01:01] Yeah.

[01:01:02] Me and Jordan, we just finished our episode where we talked about that.

[01:01:06] And we just still desperately want to be like, it's not the movie's fault, but it

[01:01:11] like, I can't describe the thing.

[01:01:14] The thing is in order to describe to you how distressing it was to see those six year

[01:01:18] old children in that movie, I'd have to describe to you what happens in that movie.

[01:01:22] And I, I, I'm assuming this is going to eventually go on YouTube and I don't want

[01:01:26] to get, I don't want to get anyone to monetize like that.

[01:01:28] So it's like, it feels like we're kind of underselling what we mean when we're like,

[01:01:32] we walked out and the guy was like yelling at him.

[01:01:35] He's like, what is wrong with you?

[01:01:36] Like what is good wrong with you?

[01:01:40] See?

[01:01:40] And that's the thing I, to me, I think, and I'm, I'm 100% like pro free speech.

[01:01:47] Like I'm obnoxious about it, but there are, that's a line that I think the movie theater

[01:01:52] should be like, I don't care if you can buy them the tickets.

[01:01:55] It's I'm not letting a six year old in to see this movie.

[01:01:58] Yeah.

[01:02:00] It's a real lot.

[01:02:01] Like back in the day, they used to have the box office.

[01:02:05] It doesn't really think in Canada.

[01:02:06] It doesn't really exist so much anymore.

[01:02:08] I forgot about that.

[01:02:10] I was assuming there was a box office.

[01:02:12] Yeah, no, now it's, you could just buy tickets online from a kiosk.

[01:02:15] Yeah.

[01:02:16] They kind of do, but most people just buy it from a kiosk.

[01:02:19] But back when I used to work at box office.

[01:02:21] Yeah.

[01:02:21] Like, I mean, there's a fair, okay.

[01:02:25] I watchmen, watchmen, obviously.

[01:02:28] Yeah.

[01:02:28] Uh, there was a dad who took his daughter, like his like young daughter to watchmen.

[01:02:34] And she made way when he started walking.

[01:02:37] Yeah.

[01:02:38] When he started walking out with his dong out, she walked up and went, it looks just like

[01:02:42] yours, daddy.

[01:02:45] Yeah.

[01:02:46] And so we were pretty, we were told to.

[01:02:48] It was blue.

[01:02:50] Yeah.

[01:02:53] What she said.

[01:02:54] What she said.

[01:02:56] I don't know.

[01:02:57] I wasn't there.

[01:02:57] I have questions.

[01:02:58] I have so many questions, sir.

[01:03:00] I cannot corroborate, but we were told pretty explicitly.

[01:03:03] I know it happened because we were actively told to discourage.

[01:03:06] And I did like, there was a, there was a woman, there's a family who wanted to go watch

[01:03:11] it because they thought it was a superhero movie.

[01:03:12] And I had to be like, no, no, no, go.

[01:03:15] You're not, the kids will not have a good time.

[01:03:18] It's very boring.

[01:03:19] Go take them to race to which mountain instead, please.

[01:03:22] And they did.

[01:03:23] Right.

[01:03:23] Yeah.

[01:03:23] Like, but that doesn't seem to happen nowadays.

[01:03:26] And the response of being like, well, they saw the first one.

[01:03:30] What prompted you to show a six year old these movies flat out period period.

[01:03:37] Yeah.

[01:03:38] Yeah, I can.

[01:03:39] I can.

[01:03:39] I don't remember.

[01:03:40] I don't remember what game it was.

[01:03:42] But when I worked at Walmart, when I was like 17 or 18, had to have been 18.

[01:03:48] There was a grandmother or something that was buying a game for the kid and the kid was far

[01:03:54] too young to play this game.

[01:03:55] I can't remember what it was, but I mean, it was, it was a fairly graphic one.

[01:04:00] And I like, obviously, you know, rated M and yeah, very young child, not even a teenager.

[01:04:06] And I just, I said, you know, I, you know, this, this game is quite, this game is quite,

[01:04:15] you know, bad.

[01:04:16] I'm not sure you'd want to buy this for the, for the kid.

[01:04:18] Now I will say this much.

[01:04:20] I don't know if this is still the case, but at the time, Walmart had a policy where if

[01:04:24] we felt that it was inappropriate, then we did not have to sell them the game.

[01:04:30] Interesting.

[01:04:31] I mean, I, I did.

[01:04:33] Now the thing of it is I stepped away and they bought it.

[01:04:35] They bought it from somebody else immediately.

[01:04:37] But I was just like, I even said to my manager, I'm like, I'm not going to be responsible

[01:04:41] for that.

[01:04:42] And I, I'm not one of those people that believes that like video games are the reason that kids

[01:04:47] are violent, but like, I'm still not, I'm still not going to be a party to this.

[01:04:52] No, I mean, I, I've discouraged.

[01:04:54] Uh, there's one time, same deal.

[01:04:56] Woman wanted to buy her son call of duty or like three year old because they played it

[01:05:01] at the cousins once.

[01:05:02] And I was like, let them play it at the cousins by the Mario instead, please.

[01:05:07] And then she did.

[01:05:08] But these movies are just like on a different level.

[01:05:12] Like, yeah.

[01:05:13] Yeah.

[01:05:13] Compared to like, well, what if, what if we saw someone bring their kid into Deadpool

[01:05:18] and Wolverine?

[01:05:19] Like a six year old child into that movie.

[01:05:22] No.

[01:05:22] When we have the same moral obligation, feel the same moral obligation.

[01:05:26] I mean, it's a little bit different, but I, it's not the same, but I would still, I would

[01:05:33] still probably be like, this is not appropriate for a six year old.

[01:05:38] Wait, wait.

[01:05:50] The thing is.

[01:05:51] No, no, no, not necessarily.

[01:05:57] No.

[01:05:58] But also, I mean, I saw some fucked up shit when I was a kid.

[01:06:02] Like I watched South Park when I was like 12, but I'm like, but this is just on such

[01:06:06] a different, different level.

[01:06:08] This is on such a different level.

[01:06:10] But see, I, I probably, depending on the 12 year old, I don't know that I'd hesitate

[01:06:14] taking a 12 year old that I knew and knew could handle it to Deadpool and Wolverine,

[01:06:19] but a six year old.

[01:06:20] No, no.

[01:06:21] Like I said, like, like, um, uh, Sean said on Facebook, he said, Oh, I bring my 15 year

[01:06:28] old to it.

[01:06:29] It's like, yeah, that's different.

[01:06:30] Like there was a 15 year old kids in there.

[01:06:32] And I was like, this is a bit intense in my opinion for them, but that, that is a discussion

[01:06:37] I'm willing to have a six year.

[01:06:38] So, and it really does.

[01:06:40] Like people are getting like dismembered, like kid bad shit is happening to kids.

[01:06:46] Right.

[01:06:47] And like when you're, you're sitting there and you're waiting for it to happen.

[01:06:51] And it's just, we literally had to compartmentalize.

[01:06:55] And like, Jordan kept going, like, do we get up?

[01:06:58] Do we say something?

[01:06:59] What do we, what's our moral obligation here?

[01:07:02] Like, I'll be blunt.

[01:07:04] I'll be blunt.

[01:07:05] Morally speaking, you've got no obligation.

[01:07:08] That's, that's a decision they've made.

[01:07:10] And you're not, and you don't work for the theater in this case, but you have no obligation.

[01:07:15] You have no obligation whatsoever.

[01:07:17] That's their, they're going to have to deal with their fucked up kids.

[01:07:20] But it like, it definitely like, it ruins that movie.

[01:07:26] It actually does because it's all you can think about is this poor child three rows up

[01:07:30] who's being traumatized right now.

[01:07:32] It was a bad time.

[01:07:35] I was going to point out was like, that's exactly what I was going to point out was, was like, you realize that that kid is going to be scarred for the rest of their life.

[01:07:45] Yeah.

[01:07:46] I mean, I almost, the only reason why I didn't like, I was going to say something to the guy

[01:07:50] at the podium.

[01:07:51] I was going to be like, dude, is there not some sort of, or like, do you not?

[01:07:57] And as I was about to, the guy was doing literally what I was about to when they were standing right there.

[01:08:02] And yeah, you start, what is wrong yelling at them?

[01:08:05] And I was like, good, good, but oh man.

[01:08:09] Yeah.

[01:08:10] Yeah.

[01:08:11] I'm very glad I'm going to be watching a lighthearted Halloween movie from the 1970s where a guy kills teenagers.

[01:08:19] Yes.

[01:08:21] You know, because if you change the soundtrack.

[01:08:25] It's quite a, it's a, it's a fun little rom.

[01:08:28] Look, I maintain those, those middle, those middle, uh, Friday the 13th movies are fun.

[01:08:33] They're really funny.

[01:08:35] I still, I'll be honest.

[01:08:37] Cause I laugh at people that say the exorcist is still scary.

[01:08:40] No, not anymore.

[01:08:41] I understand.

[01:08:42] I understand at the time it was probably terrifying.

[01:08:44] Now it's just, now it's hilarious.

[01:08:47] It's dumb.

[01:08:48] It's dumb.

[01:08:49] It's such a funny movie.

[01:08:50] Yeah.

[01:08:51] It's hilarious.

[01:08:51] I laugh and I'm like, like I want you can, for me, I can watch the entirety of the

[01:08:56] exorcist and the opening scene from scary movie too.

[01:08:59] And they're very much the same movie for me.

[01:09:02] Yeah.

[01:09:03] But that's the thing about like eighties movies.

[01:09:04] Here's the thing about eighties movies is like you watch them now, like, like Jaws,

[01:09:10] like you kind of sit there and you kind of like laugh.

[01:09:12] Cause you're like, okay, this is stupid.

[01:09:14] Yeah.

[01:09:15] It's a big, it's a big, it's a big fake looking shark.

[01:09:18] Yeah.

[01:09:18] But you got to kind of, that's the kind of example of with the eighties ones.

[01:09:22] You got to be like, Oh, when I watched the terrifier movies, I'm like, that's what people

[01:09:27] saw when they watched Friday the 13th part three.

[01:09:31] Right.

[01:09:31] That's what they saw back then.

[01:09:33] So that's kind of how I got to put those movies where it's like, yeah, they're stupid and fun

[01:09:36] now, but they weren't, they weren't.

[01:09:39] People got upset when Jason killed people.

[01:09:41] I'll be fair.

[01:09:42] I find, I find Freddie upsetting, but I, that's because I don't like, I don't enjoy sexual violence.

[01:09:46] That's like, that's my line.

[01:09:47] Like I just say what you will about the, the, this, the, the terrifier movies.

[01:09:53] They're not the most upsetting movies I've ever seen.

[01:09:55] That's probably still a Serbian film.

[01:09:59] That's on a whole nother level.

[01:10:02] Oh man.

[01:10:03] That is, that's not even.

[01:10:05] You're not even on the same.

[01:10:07] You're not even on the same planet.

[01:10:09] That is. Yeah.

[01:10:10] That, that is probably one of the, I, I made the mistake of watching.

[01:10:15] Okay.

[01:10:16] Obviously, obviously Goosebumps crew.

[01:10:20] Video, video game nerd.

[01:10:22] Are you familiar with the nostalgia critic?

[01:10:24] Mm hmm.

[01:10:25] You know, the cinema stop.

[01:10:27] Yeah.

[01:10:28] I got really into the cinema stop, like really into them to the point that I own his first movie.

[01:10:34] I love his first movie.

[01:10:35] I think it's really good.

[01:10:36] I, I think, I think quite enjoyed it.

[01:10:38] But I got really into exploitation films for a while, like really into them.

[01:10:42] So I've seen all the, the awful shit.

[01:10:44] So I've seen like, I spit on your grave.

[01:10:46] I've seen the remake and the, and the original.

[01:10:51] Um, and yeah, I've seen a Serbian film.

[01:10:53] And the, I've seen, I've seen human centipede.

[01:10:56] I've seen the first two ones.

[01:10:58] I refuse to watch the third one.

[01:10:59] But yeah.

[01:11:00] So like those movies are reprehensible to me.

[01:11:03] Like, I don't understand how you can make a movie like a Serbian film and sleep at night.

[01:11:07] Like that I don't understand.

[01:11:10] There's, there's, there's issues.

[01:11:11] There's issues there.

[01:11:13] I think.

[01:11:14] I think it's pretty safe to say.

[01:11:16] Yeah.

[01:11:17] Those are the movies that, that make me uncomfortable.

[01:11:20] Like that's where my line is.

[01:11:23] I will say, since we're talking about like, what's appropriate.

[01:11:27] Like, cause I got, I'm circling back to like, when, when, when we talked about like, what's appropriate for kids.

[01:11:33] And I just, that's reminded me.

[01:11:36] I, cause when I went to order this, when I got picked up this book, I also bought the wicked novel.

[01:11:45] Well, that's an interesting. Okay. Okay. I know where you're going. Yeah.

[01:11:49] That, that, that novel is not the, not the Broadway musical.

[01:11:57] Not for children. No.

[01:11:59] Not for children.

[01:12:01] There's, there's scenes in that book that just made me feel icky.

[01:12:06] I've never read it. I've heard of it. I've never read it.

[01:12:09] I will put it to you this way.

[01:12:10] I, at least, at least if I remember correctly, cause I'll be honest, this particular part of the story, just because of the way it was written is kind of a haze, which I actually appreciated.

[01:12:20] Cause I think the author did it intentionally where you're not entirely sure what's going on.

[01:12:27] It involves an orgy and a tiger.

[01:12:30] I'm sorry. Say what now?

[01:12:32] Yeah.

[01:12:32] It's like, I haven't actually read the book, but I've, I've, I've, I've like read the synopsis and everything.

[01:12:40] And like, and I've heard stories about it too.

[01:12:43] I'm afraid to read it now.

[01:12:45] I'm afraid.

[01:12:46] Um, I wouldn't be afraid to read it.

[01:12:48] There's only really one super D duper weird part.

[01:12:52] And it's pretty much right in the middle.

[01:12:54] But yeah, like I said, there's a legit, if I remember correctly, at least there's, there's an orgy and a tiger is involved, but it's not like a tiger tiger.

[01:13:00] It's like a, it's like a movie is going to be more faithful to the book.

[01:13:06] That's the kind of, no, I don't think so.

[01:13:09] I think that's 100% all Broadway musical all day.

[01:13:12] Are you sure?

[01:13:13] Because no, but I have a hard time.

[01:13:16] I have a hard time seeing that movie involving an orgy with a tiger.

[01:13:22] I really, I have a hard time seeing how, how and why they would want to pull that off.

[01:13:27] Well, because the part of me wants to know the context, but the other part of me just wants the mystery to remain alive.

[01:13:32] That's, that's the, that's the icky part.

[01:13:34] There is no context.

[01:13:35] It's just apparently there's like these in the, in the Emerald City, there's this, these clubs where you just go and yeah.

[01:13:44] Well, you have sex with a tiger.

[01:13:47] Whatever moves.

[01:13:48] Well, my thing is though, is the first part of which, which I, I texted Jake.

[01:13:56] I told him that it was two parts.

[01:13:57] He's like, what?

[01:13:58] It was two.

[01:13:59] It's two parts.

[01:14:00] It hurts.

[01:14:01] Oh, now this is going to be shit.

[01:14:03] I'm like.

[01:14:04] They're.

[01:14:05] Okay.

[01:14:05] So in my defense, what I said about this movie, when I first heard they were going to make it, I said, they're going to ruin it because they're going to overproduce it.

[01:14:12] And they're, they're just going to milk a cow that doesn't need to be milked.

[01:14:15] They're, they're going to, they're going to overproduce it.

[01:14:17] Two parts.

[01:14:18] And the first part is longer than the original musical.

[01:14:20] How is that possible?

[01:14:21] How is that possible?

[01:14:23] How every single time we talk about this, me, me and Jordan, me, Jordan and Haley, me Jordan alone.

[01:14:29] We keep going back to literally.

[01:14:31] How is that possible?

[01:14:33] But the original, the original musical is two hours and 45 minutes.

[01:14:38] The, the part one is two hours and 40 minutes.

[01:14:41] I'm like.

[01:14:42] How is that?

[01:14:43] Like, if this isn't, if this is an adaptation, like, again, if this is an adaptation of the musical, how do you, how are you making two movies that are longer than the musical?

[01:14:53] And I.

[01:14:54] I don't understand it.

[01:14:55] It's, it blows the mind.

[01:14:57] I Googled it and apparently there's going to be backstory and there's going to be like.

[01:15:05] It's kind of like songs.

[01:15:06] I'm like, Oh God.

[01:15:08] What's the song per minute then?

[01:15:10] Like at that point, are they, are they adding a bunch of new songs?

[01:15:13] Like, is there going to be like a ton of new songs?

[01:15:15] Is that the idea?

[01:15:15] Okay.

[01:15:16] Yeah.

[01:15:17] Like don't have to have a certain musical per minute or something like that.

[01:15:22] Oh, no.

[01:15:23] What?

[01:15:25] Oh, so I was, I was trying to jog my memory about the aforementioned tiger scene.

[01:15:29] It's, it's worse than I remembered.

[01:15:32] That's icky.

[01:15:34] Don't, don't Google that.

[01:15:36] Don't, don't Google.

[01:15:37] I've heard not good things about this book.

[01:15:39] Like there's a lot of people who are, I've seen videos where they're shocked that the musical did so well.

[01:15:43] because the book is just that not good.

[01:15:46] The musical and the book are two completely different things.

[01:15:49] I might not read the book.

[01:15:51] I might burn it instead.

[01:15:54] So, but here's the funny thing.

[01:15:55] I heard the sequel's even worse

[01:15:56] because I haven't read the sequel

[01:15:59] because I refused to.

[01:16:01] I did not know there was a sequel.

[01:16:02] Yeah, Son of a Witch.

[01:16:03] Oh, interesting.

[01:16:04] I saw all those books.

[01:16:06] I saw Son of a Witch.

[01:16:07] I saw like all those novels.

[01:16:09] I'm like, oh my God.

[01:16:12] Interesting.

[01:16:12] I will say I'm not a fan of the author.

[01:16:19] It's just, it's not my cup of tea.

[01:16:23] I enjoyed, I think Wicked is worth reading once

[01:16:28] just so that you can see just the vast difference

[01:16:31] between it and the Broadway show,

[01:16:33] which both from thematic and storytelling points of view

[01:16:38] is far superior.

[01:16:40] Even in so far as how it ties into The Wizard of Oz,

[01:16:43] the musical is superior.

[01:16:45] Yeah.

[01:16:46] It's a better, it's a better thing that exists.

[01:16:48] Like the review that I saw on this book

[01:16:51] was like, there's like sexual things happening

[01:16:59] with children and I'm like,

[01:17:00] and all this other stuff.

[01:17:03] I mean, I wasn't going to go there.

[01:17:06] Sexual situations.

[01:17:08] But yes, this is a thing that happened.

[01:17:11] Okay, so this became a well-known Broadway musical.

[01:17:15] Wow.

[01:17:16] I mean, it's when I tell you,

[01:17:18] they are very much, very different things.

[01:17:21] Yeah.

[01:17:22] They are extreme.

[01:17:24] It's, imagine if you will.

[01:17:26] Imagine if you will.

[01:17:27] I feel like I did know this,

[01:17:28] but that's fascinating.

[01:17:30] Yeah, but they basically took

[01:17:32] like the character names

[01:17:34] and the overall like very broad main premise

[01:17:36] and that's about it.

[01:17:39] Yeah.

[01:17:39] Huh.

[01:17:40] Interesting.

[01:17:40] And then they kind of made,

[01:17:41] and then they kind of made their own thing about it.

[01:17:44] So, Justin, you'll appreciate this.

[01:17:47] Imagine Wicked as,

[01:17:49] the stage production is,

[01:17:51] the stage production of Wicked.

[01:17:54] And the book would be like

[01:17:56] the quality of Oz the Great and Powerful,

[01:17:59] but as a softcore porn movie.

[01:18:03] Okay.

[01:18:03] Okay.

[01:18:04] Okay.

[01:18:05] Oh.

[01:18:06] Wait, with the quality of Oz the Great and Powerful,

[01:18:08] the James Franco movie?

[01:18:09] Yes.

[01:18:10] I actually don't totally hate that movie.

[01:18:12] What?

[01:18:13] That movie was awful.

[01:18:14] That's why I said don't totally hate it.

[01:18:17] You'll notice I said don't totally hate it.

[01:18:19] I did not say love it.

[01:18:20] Why do you have to change my mind now?

[01:18:21] Well, because I'm trying to best describe

[01:18:23] without you having to read the book.

[01:18:25] See, I half expected you to say,

[01:18:26] you know the prison show Oz?

[01:18:29] It's like that, but...

[01:18:31] No, it's not.

[01:18:33] No, it's just that way with tigers.

[01:18:35] Or a tiger.

[01:18:37] A tiger.

[01:18:38] Is that way too specific of a joke?

[01:18:41] No, because it's a literal...

[01:18:43] Okay, so here's the thing you have to understand

[01:18:45] in the book Wicked

[01:18:45] and in the musical to a certain extent,

[01:18:47] but they go more into it.

[01:18:48] So there are animals

[01:18:50] and then there are animals,

[01:18:51] which they differentiate them in the book

[01:18:53] with a capital A.

[01:18:54] And then any species that is an animal,

[01:18:57] not an animal,

[01:18:58] is also capitalized.

[01:18:59] So if it's a tiger instead of a tiger,

[01:19:01] it's like a humanoid tiger,

[01:19:04] if that makes sense.

[01:19:05] Oh, so...

[01:19:05] Okay, yeah.

[01:19:06] No, that doesn't make sense.

[01:19:07] That's okay.

[01:19:07] Yeah, this sounds weird.

[01:19:08] Dr. Delamond is the goat.

[01:19:09] It's a goat.

[01:19:10] So Dr. Delamond is a goat,

[01:19:12] not a goat.

[01:19:12] He's a goat,

[01:19:13] but he becomes a goat

[01:19:14] because he starts to talk bad.

[01:19:18] That happens in the book.

[01:19:20] Is it okay if I say that this book sounds bad?

[01:19:24] No, because I mean,

[01:19:25] in a vacuum,

[01:19:27] it is.

[01:19:27] Based on your description,

[01:19:27] it sounds very weird.

[01:19:31] So, and here's the thing,

[01:19:31] and this is where

[01:19:33] sometimes when I criticize something,

[01:19:35] I do this with Star Wars,

[01:19:36] the new Star Wars movies all the time.

[01:19:38] But when I criticize something

[01:19:39] that's kind of beloved,

[01:19:41] but it's part of sort of like a larger,

[01:19:43] what do you call it?

[01:19:44] A larger world,

[01:19:45] a franchise,

[01:19:45] a larger franchise.

[01:19:48] What I go to,

[01:19:49] to figure out if it's actually good

[01:19:51] or bad or not,

[01:19:52] is I take the thing

[01:19:53] and I eliminate all the references.

[01:19:56] So in the case of Wicked,

[01:19:57] I'm going to take the thing

[01:19:58] and I'm going to eliminate in my mind

[01:19:59] all the references

[01:20:00] and Easter eggs to the Wizard of Oz

[01:20:02] and look at it solely

[01:20:03] from a story perspective.

[01:20:05] And without the Wizard of Oz

[01:20:06] attached to it,

[01:20:07] it's fucking terrible.

[01:20:10] That's such a good metric.

[01:20:11] This is not,

[01:20:11] this is not a book,

[01:20:13] this is not a book

[01:20:14] that people would read

[01:20:15] of their own volition

[01:20:16] unless it's tied

[01:20:17] to the Wicked Witch of the West.

[01:20:19] If it was just a witch,

[01:20:21] nobody would have read this book.

[01:20:22] Yeah.

[01:20:23] Yeah, I don't think that's unfair.

[01:20:25] I've made it that

[01:20:26] Wizard of Oz iconography

[01:20:28] is long lasting.

[01:20:30] Yeah.

[01:20:31] All of this to say though,

[01:20:33] all of this to say though,

[01:20:34] just because Ariana Grande

[01:20:35] is on the cover,

[01:20:36] don't buy this for your kids.

[01:20:39] I mean,

[01:20:40] that's why they'll buy it

[01:20:40] for their kids.

[01:20:41] What's its rating?

[01:20:43] I have no idea.

[01:20:44] I didn't even see.

[01:20:45] I can't remember.

[01:20:46] It sounded like it's a,

[01:20:47] for teenagers,

[01:20:48] but the sound of it.

[01:20:48] Is it PG-13?

[01:20:50] Oh, the movie?

[01:20:51] Yeah, the movie.

[01:20:52] If I had to guess.

[01:20:53] I think so.

[01:20:54] I think it's PG-13

[01:20:55] just because there's so...

[01:20:56] Oh yeah, right.

[01:20:56] You've got a different rating

[01:20:57] for it than I do.

[01:20:58] Oh yeah, yeah.

[01:20:59] That's true.

[01:21:00] Actually, believe it or not,

[01:21:01] Ariana Grande being Glinda

[01:21:03] was one of the things

[01:21:03] I was like,

[01:21:04] oh, okay,

[01:21:04] this might not be gone awful.

[01:21:06] It's funny now

[01:21:08] that I've said that.

[01:21:09] Deadpool Wolverine

[01:21:10] is 14A here,

[01:21:11] so you could totally

[01:21:12] go watch it if you're 15.

[01:21:13] Yeah, it was rated R here.

[01:21:16] Yeah, there's been

[01:21:17] some times where like,

[01:21:19] like,

[01:21:20] best example,

[01:21:22] a Tropic Thunder

[01:21:22] is R-rated in the States,

[01:21:24] which means

[01:21:25] if you're 17,

[01:21:25] you can watch it.

[01:21:26] I would totally let,

[01:21:28] I would totally let

[01:21:29] like a 14,

[01:21:30] 15 year old

[01:21:30] watch Tropic Thunder

[01:21:31] with no hesitation.

[01:21:33] Funny story about,

[01:21:34] about the Canadian

[01:21:37] ratings board

[01:21:37] is it's a relatively

[01:21:39] new thing

[01:21:40] to my understanding

[01:21:41] because there's one,

[01:21:42] one time where you had

[01:21:43] Jordan went to watch

[01:21:44] Tropic Thunder

[01:21:45] and it was rated 14A.

[01:21:47] I nearly got fired

[01:21:48] for this

[01:21:49] because he went to watch

[01:21:50] Tropic Thunder

[01:21:51] and it was 14A

[01:21:51] and the next day

[01:21:52] it became 18A

[01:21:54] and he had to get a ticket

[01:21:55] to prove that it was 14A

[01:21:56] because if they catch you

[01:21:57] with a minor

[01:21:58] in an 18A rated movie

[01:22:00] and they're not there

[01:22:01] with an adult,

[01:22:01] you lose your license

[01:22:02] and it's a big thing.

[01:22:03] We got several employees

[01:22:05] and we got fired for it.

[01:22:06] But yeah,

[01:22:07] so our,

[01:22:07] the only reason why

[01:22:08] I know anything

[01:22:08] about the MPAA

[01:22:09] is because of the movie

[01:22:10] this film is not yet rated

[01:22:12] which I would recommend.

[01:22:14] I would,

[01:22:14] I would recommend

[01:22:15] it is

[01:22:16] if not for the fact

[01:22:17] that it opens

[01:22:18] with the rape scene

[01:22:18] from Boys Don't Cry

[01:22:23] which is gnarly.

[01:22:25] It makes a point though.

[01:22:26] It does

[01:22:27] and the information

[01:22:28] it shares

[01:22:30] is fascinating.

[01:22:32] The MPAA

[01:22:32] is a fascinating body

[01:22:34] and what their rules are,

[01:22:35] the notion

[01:22:36] that you're only allowed

[01:22:37] one F word

[01:22:38] in a PG-13 rating

[01:22:39] which has yielded

[01:22:41] some really funny ones.

[01:22:42] Yeah,

[01:22:43] did you,

[01:22:44] which this is a really good,

[01:22:46] it's a really good plot,

[01:22:48] plot.

[01:22:49] So since,

[01:22:51] I believe,

[01:22:52] since the Lord of the Rings

[01:22:53] is rated PG-13

[01:22:55] that means each movie

[01:22:56] would have been allotted

[01:22:57] one F bomb.

[01:22:58] Yes.

[01:22:59] And a game,

[01:23:00] and a game people

[01:23:01] like to play is

[01:23:01] where would you put

[01:23:03] the fuck?

[01:23:05] I mean,

[01:23:06] I kind of,

[01:23:06] I kind of would put it

[01:23:07] where instead of

[01:23:08] fly you fools

[01:23:09] it'd be fuck off you fools.

[01:23:11] I mean,

[01:23:12] that's valid.

[01:23:12] For Fellowship,

[01:23:13] I think I would have put it

[01:23:15] when Frodo gets stabbed

[01:23:17] because just,

[01:23:18] just the thought

[01:23:19] of Elijah Wood screaming

[01:23:21] fuck.

[01:23:23] That's a good one.

[01:23:24] That's a good one.

[01:23:26] Yeah,

[01:23:26] I mean,

[01:23:26] my favorite,

[01:23:27] my favorite use of that

[01:23:28] is one of my favorites

[01:23:29] is in Be Cool

[01:23:30] where it's John Travolta

[01:23:32] and he's like,

[01:23:33] yeah,

[01:23:33] you only allowed one

[01:23:34] use of one F for it.

[01:23:35] He's like,

[01:23:35] fuck that.

[01:23:38] Yeah,

[01:23:38] I do like it when he-

[01:23:40] John wants to do a Deadpool movie,

[01:23:42] Deadpool Spider-Man movie

[01:23:43] where it's PG rated,

[01:23:45] it's PG-13

[01:23:45] and Deadpool

[01:23:46] like is constantly

[01:23:47] searching for the right moment

[01:23:48] to drop the F bomb.

[01:23:50] He knows he gets one F bomb

[01:23:51] and he's waiting

[01:23:52] for the perfect moment

[01:23:53] to use it.

[01:23:54] I like it

[01:23:55] because they,

[01:23:55] they sort of,

[01:23:56] they did that

[01:23:56] in Once Upon a Deadpool

[01:23:57] but not in the same way

[01:23:58] so I would very much

[01:23:59] like to see that

[01:24:00] and the whole running gag

[01:24:02] can be like,

[01:24:02] is this it?

[01:24:03] Is this the moment?

[01:24:04] Yeah,

[01:24:05] then John wants to do it

[01:24:05] where like,

[01:24:06] he wants it two ways.

[01:24:08] Either he gets to do it

[01:24:09] or it gets to the final one

[01:24:10] like because he wants it,

[01:24:11] he desperately wants

[01:24:12] a Spider-Man Deadpool movie

[01:24:13] but he's like,

[01:24:14] and then Spider-Man

[01:24:14] steals it from him

[01:24:15] and Deadpool's like,

[01:24:16] oh man.

[01:24:18] Oh my God.

[01:24:19] I would love that.

[01:24:20] That would be great

[01:24:21] or you could do that

[01:24:22] or at the very end

[01:24:23] Deadpool can realize

[01:24:24] that he hasn't said it yet

[01:24:25] because he was so involved

[01:24:26] with the plot

[01:24:26] and then they just drop,

[01:24:29] they just scream fuck

[01:24:30] and then the movie

[01:24:31] just goes to black

[01:24:32] and credits roll.

[01:24:32] That'd be so great.

[01:24:34] I would take,

[01:24:34] I would take any

[01:24:35] of those options.

[01:24:37] Yeah,

[01:24:37] that and also

[01:24:38] you guys are,

[01:24:39] you guys are real weird

[01:24:39] about language.

[01:24:41] South Park may find out

[01:24:42] but you guys got to think

[01:24:43] about language

[01:24:43] like for us

[01:24:44] like we,

[01:24:46] it's violence.

[01:24:47] That's,

[01:24:48] we'll get,

[01:24:48] so if the movie's

[01:24:49] got a lot of swear words

[01:24:50] in it,

[01:24:51] it'll be 14A.

[01:24:52] That won't push it up

[01:24:52] to an 18A.

[01:24:53] And see,

[01:24:54] I kind of,

[01:24:55] I agree with that

[01:24:56] because I,

[01:24:57] like Superbad

[01:24:58] was rated R

[01:24:58] for example

[01:24:59] and.

[01:25:00] That was 18A here.

[01:25:01] That was very much

[01:25:02] 18A here.

[01:25:03] Oh,

[01:25:03] that was probably

[01:25:03] for the sex though

[01:25:04] now that I have

[01:25:05] to think about it.

[01:25:05] I think so.

[01:25:06] I don't think

[01:25:07] that was a language thing

[01:25:07] so that's a bad example.

[01:25:09] Anyway,

[01:25:10] I'm not going to think

[01:25:10] of an example

[01:25:11] because we're,

[01:25:11] we're becoming

[01:25:12] the problem.

[01:25:13] Again,

[01:25:14] again.

[01:25:14] We've bogarted,

[01:25:15] we've bogarted,

[01:25:16] we've bogarted Haley's podcast

[01:25:18] but that just goes

[01:25:19] to show how

[01:25:19] I'm not sorry.

[01:25:21] I'm sorry.

[01:25:22] I'm a little sorry.

[01:25:24] I'm like,

[01:25:24] demonstrated an effective podcast.

[01:25:26] Yes,

[01:25:27] I'm like PG-13 sorry.

[01:25:30] I'm Canadian sorry?

[01:25:31] Like I have,

[01:25:31] I have one fuck

[01:25:32] and I'm giving it right now.

[01:25:34] That's right,

[01:25:34] you said that,

[01:25:35] you said that,

[01:25:36] I'm just like,

[01:25:36] I lost it.

[01:25:39] I'm Canadian sorry,

[01:25:40] which means

[01:25:41] I'm,

[01:25:42] I'm mostly sorry.

[01:25:45] Are you sorry

[01:25:46] or sorry?

[01:25:47] I'm sorry.

[01:25:48] Sorry.

[01:25:49] Sorry.

[01:25:50] Shut up.

[01:25:50] I'm sorry.

[01:25:51] I'm sorry.

[01:25:52] Well,

[01:25:53] because that's a level

[01:25:53] of sincerity.

[01:25:54] If he's sorry,

[01:25:55] it's a,

[01:25:56] it's a big deal.

[01:25:57] It is.

[01:25:58] It's true.

[01:25:59] It's Canadian promise.

[01:26:01] And if he's fucking sorry,

[01:26:02] guy.

[01:26:03] Oh,

[01:26:04] I'm sorry,

[01:26:04] guy.

[01:26:06] Anywho.

[01:26:07] Ah,

[01:26:08] Haley,

[01:26:08] would you like to close out

[01:26:09] the segment being that

[01:26:10] it is your podcast

[01:26:11] and we have,

[01:26:12] we have stolen it?

[01:26:13] You have.

[01:26:15] And

[01:26:16] I will

[01:26:17] find a formal

[01:26:19] punishment for that.

[01:26:21] Wait,

[01:26:21] is this,

[01:26:21] sorry,

[01:26:22] is this getting smushed

[01:26:23] in the,

[01:26:23] or is this getting put

[01:26:24] in the,

[01:26:24] It sounds dirty.

[01:26:25] Smushed.

[01:26:26] It's why I stopped saying it

[01:26:27] as soon as I said it.

[01:26:29] Is this,

[01:26:29] is this getting put in,

[01:26:30] is this getting put

[01:26:31] in the Hocus Pocus episode?

[01:26:34] No,

[01:26:35] it's at the end of it.

[01:26:37] Remind us,

[01:26:37] what book,

[01:26:37] what book author

[01:26:39] did you interview

[01:26:39] for this episode?

[01:26:42] Like,

[01:26:42] Editor Jake knows,

[01:26:43] but Present Jake

[01:26:44] forgot.

[01:26:45] Present Jake forgot.

[01:26:46] It's

[01:26:48] Mary Mancusi.

[01:26:51] Mary Mancusi.

[01:26:51] Oh,

[01:26:52] so you're,

[01:26:52] you're,

[01:26:52] you're,

[01:26:53] so we're on the

[01:26:55] end of an episode

[01:26:56] where you interviewed

[01:26:56] here about that book?

[01:26:58] Yep.

[01:26:58] Got it.

[01:26:59] Okay,

[01:26:59] cool.

[01:26:59] I just want to make sure

[01:27:00] it's called it correctly.

[01:27:01] Sally's Lament.

[01:27:02] I answered,

[01:27:03] I answered my own question

[01:27:04] because I was like,

[01:27:05] is that Nightmare Before Christmas,

[01:27:06] Sally?

[01:27:06] But then I see the

[01:27:08] Spiral Mountain

[01:27:08] down there at the bottom.

[01:27:09] Oh,

[01:27:09] absolutely.

[01:27:10] So is it,

[01:27:10] is it one of those,

[01:27:11] like a,

[01:27:12] Jordan,

[01:27:12] Jordan talks about them

[01:27:13] all the time?

[01:27:14] Um,

[01:27:16] like what if Disney

[01:27:17] but different

[01:27:19] kind of style books?

[01:27:20] It's like,

[01:27:21] oh,

[01:27:21] it's like the

[01:27:22] what if books.

[01:27:24] So,

[01:27:25] for example,

[01:27:26] it's,

[01:27:26] it's what if

[01:27:27] Sally,

[01:27:29] if Sally

[01:27:31] discovered

[01:27:32] Christmastown?

[01:27:33] So if,

[01:27:34] Oh,

[01:27:34] interesting.

[01:27:35] So,

[01:27:36] instead of Jack,

[01:27:37] so.

[01:27:38] Oh,

[01:27:38] cool.

[01:27:39] Jordan was telling me

[01:27:40] about one where it was,

[01:27:41] um,

[01:27:43] instead of,

[01:27:43] like,

[01:27:44] instead of Merida getting,

[01:27:45] or the Merida's mom

[01:27:47] getting turned into a bear

[01:27:49] and brave,

[01:27:49] she gets sent back in time

[01:27:50] and she,

[01:27:51] like,

[01:27:52] meets the mom as a kid

[01:27:53] and,

[01:27:54] like,

[01:27:54] they team up or whatever.

[01:27:55] Uh,

[01:27:56] yeah,

[01:27:56] he constantly tells me about this.

[01:27:57] So that sounds really cool.

[01:27:59] Yeah.

[01:27:59] I love these books

[01:28:00] because,

[01:28:01] because I also have

[01:28:03] one by a different author.

[01:28:05] I can't remember

[01:28:05] that obvious name,

[01:28:06] but it's like,

[01:28:08] what if Jafar

[01:28:09] had,

[01:28:10] had found,

[01:28:10] the lamp

[01:28:11] and not Aladdin?

[01:28:12] Yeah,

[01:28:13] Jordan,

[01:28:13] yeah,

[01:28:13] yeah,

[01:28:13] Jordan told me about this.

[01:28:14] It would have been a,

[01:28:15] it would have been a much shorter story,

[01:28:16] but,

[01:28:17] um,

[01:28:17] I've got a book like that.

[01:28:21] Is it?

[01:28:22] Is it?

[01:28:23] If you,

[01:28:23] if you know,

[01:28:25] you know.

[01:28:26] Do not read,

[01:28:27] this is,

[01:28:27] do not read this to your children.

[01:28:29] It's actually not very good.

[01:28:31] Um,

[01:28:32] so imagine if you will,

[01:28:33] for your audible pleasure,

[01:28:37] that was a very poor choice of words,

[01:28:40] um,

[01:28:40] um,

[01:28:41] yeah,

[01:28:41] for your nightmare fuel,

[01:28:42] um,

[01:28:45] Peter Pan meets Fifty Shades of Grey?

[01:28:48] It's as bad as it sounds,

[01:28:50] but don't worry,

[01:28:51] no,

[01:28:51] no children are involved in this story.

[01:28:53] I mean,

[01:28:55] all right.

[01:28:56] It's not very good.

[01:28:57] Sounds like that,

[01:28:58] that genre of like Disney,

[01:28:59] the horror Disney movie now where it's,

[01:29:01] I mean,

[01:29:02] we mentioned that Screamboat Willie,

[01:29:05] Winnie the Pooh,

[01:29:06] Blood and Honey.

[01:29:07] Yeah,

[01:29:08] no,

[01:29:08] this is,

[01:29:08] I,

[01:29:09] I,

[01:29:09] I,

[01:29:09] I read this out of morbid curiosity.

[01:29:11] It's a series.

[01:29:12] Um,

[01:29:13] and it's,

[01:29:14] it's not,

[01:29:14] it's not good.

[01:29:16] The only reason why Screamboat Willie was funny,

[01:29:18] because Jordan turned to me and went,

[01:29:19] a family picture.

[01:29:22] And I,

[01:29:23] I,

[01:29:23] I had to struggle not to laugh.

[01:29:25] We can cut this out.

[01:29:26] We,

[01:29:27] we,

[01:29:27] we can cut this out,

[01:29:28] but I just,

[01:29:30] because,

[01:29:30] because,

[01:29:30] uh,

[01:29:31] I watch a,

[01:29:33] um,

[01:29:35] like a,

[01:29:36] like a YouTube where like,

[01:29:38] where,

[01:29:38] where like they count every single kill,

[01:29:42] um,

[01:29:43] in,

[01:29:43] in,

[01:29:43] in horror movies.

[01:29:45] Oh yeah.

[01:29:46] Yeah.

[01:29:47] They,

[01:29:48] it's,

[01:29:48] it's called Dead Meat.

[01:29:49] Which is really funny.

[01:29:51] Uh,

[01:29:53] and,

[01:29:54] they,

[01:29:55] just,

[01:29:56] today,

[01:29:57] did a,

[01:29:57] a,

[01:29:57] a kill count for,

[01:30:00] this,

[01:30:01] the new,

[01:30:02] horror movie,

[01:30:04] called The Mousetrap,

[01:30:05] which is a Mickey Mouse,

[01:30:07] Steamboat,

[01:30:08] Steamboat Willie horror movie.

[01:30:10] It looks terrible.

[01:30:12] And I'm scared to watch it,

[01:30:13] because I,

[01:30:14] because it's like,

[01:30:17] it's gonna be terrible,

[01:30:18] and,

[01:30:19] and it's gonna ruin,

[01:30:20] also gonna ruin,

[01:30:22] my innocence with like,

[01:30:23] my Disney fandom.

[01:30:26] Here's what I will say.

[01:30:27] Winnie the Blue Blood,

[01:30:28] real,

[01:30:28] just real quick.

[01:30:29] Uh,

[01:30:29] Winnie the Blue Blood,

[01:30:31] Honey One is terrible.

[01:30:32] I hear the second one is good.

[01:30:33] Uh,

[01:30:33] there's a Grinch version of it that,

[01:30:35] uh,

[01:30:36] the,

[01:30:36] the guy who plays Art the Clown plays the Grinch,

[01:30:39] and it's honestly pretty good.

[01:30:40] Uh,

[01:30:41] it's really,

[01:30:42] yeah,

[01:30:43] it's called The Mean One,

[01:30:44] and it's,

[01:30:44] it's,

[01:30:45] it's,

[01:30:45] it's honestly pretty good.

[01:30:47] It's,

[01:30:47] it's surprisingly good.

[01:30:48] So they're not all,

[01:30:49] they're not all terrible.

[01:30:51] I just imagine,

[01:30:52] like,

[01:30:53] that Steamboat Willie,

[01:30:55] just Mickey going on a killing spree,

[01:30:57] and just sounding hilarious.

[01:31:00] Jordan's one request for that,

[01:31:03] was that he wanted the,

[01:31:05] the Steamboat Mickey character,

[01:31:06] to disembowel someone,

[01:31:07] and then play Turkey and the Straw on their entrails,

[01:31:11] as like a reference to the,

[01:31:12] to the original cartoon.

[01:31:14] And it's not even called Steamboat Willie,

[01:31:17] it's called The Mousetrap.

[01:31:19] Oh,

[01:31:19] Mousetrap's another one.

[01:31:20] There's,

[01:31:21] there's a,

[01:31:21] there's a bunch of them.

[01:31:22] There's a few.

[01:31:23] Yeah,

[01:31:23] the minute that he went public domain,

[01:31:25] everyone ran out and got their,

[01:31:27] got themselves a cheap Steamboat Willie costume.

[01:31:30] Well,

[01:31:30] yeah,

[01:31:30] just,

[01:31:31] I,

[01:31:31] what I want in that movie is for him at some point to find something and be like,

[01:31:35] like,

[01:31:36] picks up a machete,

[01:31:37] it's like,

[01:31:37] here's a special tool we'll save for later.

[01:31:42] A Mousetool?

[01:31:44] A Mousetool,

[01:31:45] yes,

[01:31:45] if you will.

[01:31:45] Oh God!

[01:31:46] I get the reference.

[01:31:49] I'm way too old for that,

[01:31:50] but I definitely get the reference.

[01:31:52] just Jason style machetes,

[01:31:54] a dude in half and goes,

[01:31:55] no!

[01:31:57] That's,

[01:31:57] that's sort of what some of these are,

[01:31:59] like,

[01:31:59] one of the ones,

[01:32:00] yeah,

[01:32:00] the Steamboat Willie is the one where he's,

[01:32:02] he's been trapped underneath this Steamboat for like 20 years,

[01:32:05] and he's finally free.

[01:32:07] It's really weird and meta.

[01:32:09] What I don't understand about-

[01:32:10] Jordan hates them,

[01:32:11] but I,

[01:32:11] I,

[01:32:11] I do think there's a certain level of-

[01:32:14] entertainment.

[01:32:14] What I don't understand about any of these movies,

[01:32:17] of these horror,

[01:32:18] like,

[01:32:19] Disney,

[01:32:20] uh,

[01:32:20] horror movies,

[01:32:21] is like,

[01:32:22] none of the characters speak.

[01:32:25] No.

[01:32:26] Winnie the Pooh never spoke.

[01:32:29] No,

[01:32:29] he,

[01:32:30] he,

[01:32:30] he didn't,

[01:32:31] but he,

[01:32:31] he,

[01:32:32] apparently the second one he does more.

[01:32:34] Like,

[01:32:34] to be fair though,

[01:32:35] that's the whole point of that first movie is he's sworn a vow of silence,

[01:32:38] and he says like one line at the very end before he kills Christopher Robert.

[01:32:43] is that because the voice is technically,

[01:32:44] like the,

[01:32:45] the quintessential voices?

[01:32:46] Yeah,

[01:32:47] that's why you can't have,

[01:32:48] that's why you probably couldn't have Mickey out there being like,

[01:32:51] yeah,

[01:32:51] yeah,

[01:32:52] it's the,

[01:32:52] it's the image is technically,

[01:32:55] well,

[01:32:55] in the case of the Winnie the Pooh,

[01:32:57] it's the,

[01:32:58] a,

[01:32:59] a mil book version that's public domain,

[01:33:01] not the Disney version.

[01:33:02] Yep.

[01:33:03] But isn't he still wearing a red shirt?

[01:33:06] And blood and honey.

[01:33:07] So,

[01:33:08] yeah,

[01:33:08] yeah,

[01:33:09] I think so.

[01:33:09] I mean,

[01:33:10] you can't,

[01:33:10] you can't trademark a red shirt though.

[01:33:12] So that,

[01:33:12] that movie,

[01:33:13] if you,

[01:33:13] if you literally Google scary,

[01:33:15] Winnie the Pooh mask,

[01:33:15] the first thing that comes up is the mask from that,

[01:33:18] that,

[01:33:18] from that movie,

[01:33:19] like legit as a,

[01:33:20] it's like from Amazon.

[01:33:23] It was terrible.

[01:33:24] I hated that movie.

[01:33:24] So when he kills somebody,

[01:33:25] does he just go,

[01:33:26] does he just go,

[01:33:27] Oh,

[01:33:28] yeah,

[01:33:30] sort of kind of at the end.

[01:33:32] Yeah.

[01:33:32] He kind of does.

[01:33:34] I'm totally talked more in the second one.

[01:33:36] Yeah.

[01:33:37] Well,

[01:33:39] we've,

[01:33:39] we've demonstrated again.

[01:33:41] If you think you can do this,

[01:33:43] we can help you make a podcast.

[01:33:45] It's true.

[01:33:45] Hey,

[01:33:46] we managed to steer back on topic and talk about,

[01:33:49] talk about the book.

[01:33:50] That of the author that Haley is interviewing on this very episode.

[01:33:54] If you're watching of the part of your Broadway podcast world nailed it.

[01:33:58] It's almost like we know what we're doing.

[01:34:01] I just looked it up by the way.

[01:34:04] And wow.

[01:34:05] Okay.

[01:34:06] Which,

[01:34:07] what did you look up?

[01:34:09] The mask.

[01:34:10] The mask.

[01:34:10] Oh yeah.

[01:34:11] Oh,

[01:34:11] it's,

[01:34:11] it's nightmare fuel.

[01:34:12] It's awful.

[01:34:13] Yeah.

[01:34:14] Yeah.

[01:34:15] But interestingly enough,

[01:34:16] we,

[01:34:16] we are kind of,

[01:34:18] we are kind of looking for somebody to do a more general horror theme podcast.

[01:34:22] Cause we have the goosebumps crew,

[01:34:24] but they stick pretty strictly to goosebumps,

[01:34:27] generally speaking.

[01:34:28] So we,

[01:34:28] we do kind of want a general horror theme podcast where,

[01:34:32] Hey,

[01:34:33] if you want to go on a two hour rant about the mousetrap.

[01:34:37] It's right over.

[01:34:38] My soul can't,

[01:34:39] my soul can't handle that.

[01:34:41] Once,

[01:34:41] once October rolls around on November rolls around,

[01:34:45] I'm going to do a nice family friendly week.

[01:34:47] That's,

[01:34:48] that's got flowers and everyone hugs each other.

[01:34:51] Oh,

[01:34:52] so very much.

[01:34:52] You're just going to do,

[01:34:53] you're going to do national lampoons vacation.

[01:34:56] Yeah.

[01:34:57] Yeah,

[01:34:57] exactly.

[01:34:58] We'll do a comedy week where we just laugh.

[01:35:02] I'd say I still have to do a professional wrestling episode.

[01:35:04] That's still on my list.

[01:35:05] We do.

[01:35:06] We do.

[01:35:07] That's the thing that happens,

[01:35:07] but yeah,

[01:35:08] we're going to try to make the trial happen in November.

[01:35:10] I can watch Hamilton by then,

[01:35:12] but Haley before we were going to,

[01:35:14] we're going to stop Justin.

[01:35:15] We're going to stop.

[01:35:16] We're going to stop talking.

[01:35:17] Stop it.

[01:35:20] We're going to be like a mother.

[01:35:21] I feel like you're his mother.

[01:35:23] We're going to,

[01:35:24] we're going to,

[01:35:25] we're going to be a public domain Mickey and just not speak.

[01:35:32] I don't know.

[01:35:34] Like I'm over here being like,

[01:35:35] okay,

[01:35:36] guys,

[01:35:36] shut up.

[01:35:38] Stop talking.

[01:35:39] Like,

[01:35:40] I feel like your mother.

[01:35:42] Well,

[01:35:43] yes,

[01:35:43] Haley,

[01:35:43] would you like to close out this segment that lasted much longer than I

[01:35:47] anticipated,

[01:35:47] but was still a lot of fun.

[01:35:53] So again,

[01:35:54] I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

[01:35:57] And if you did,

[01:35:58] please,

[01:35:59] please,

[01:36:00] please.

[01:36:01] If,

[01:36:01] if you're considering it,

[01:36:03] please buy the book because it is very good.

[01:36:07] If you go to Barton,

[01:36:08] Barton,

[01:36:09] no,

[01:36:09] no,

[01:36:09] no,

[01:36:09] no,

[01:36:10] no,

[01:36:10] no,

[01:36:10] no,

[01:36:10] no,

[01:36:10] no,

[01:36:11] no,

[01:36:12] no,

[01:36:13] no,

[01:36:14] no,

[01:36:14] no,

[01:36:14] no,

[01:36:16] no,

[01:36:18] no,

[01:36:19] sticker.

[01:36:21] So.

[01:36:23] Yeah.

[01:36:24] So,

[01:36:24] yeah.

[01:36:25] That's all.

[01:36:26] Thank you guys again for watching and I will see you guys next time.

[01:36:37] That's all folks.

[01:36:39] We did it.

[01:36:40] We nailed it.

[01:36:41] Nailed it.

[01:36:42] We did it.

[01:36:42] We did it.

[01:36:43] We did it.