Part of your broadway world podcast (bonus episode)| TikTok and Justice: Why the Ban Misses the Mark

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[00:01:00] Today we are joined by Jake to discuss the looming TikTok ban. So let's get started. Jake, I'm tired. Why? What's going on? I'm tired of this stupid fight that we keep. It's not going anywhere. It's not. I know, but like I'm tired of like this happening every like few months.

[00:01:29] Welcome to American politics. Ta-da! Oh my God. I know, but... I can sum up this entire thing in one word. Stupid. Stupid. This whole thing is stupid. It's stupid and it's not about... It's never been about national security.

[00:01:59] It's... See, here's the thing. And this is, this is where politicians think they're playing 3D chess and they're playing tic-tac-toe. Like, they're so dumb, they don't even realize how stupid they're being. So the argument is that it's all about content. It's what it really comes down to. It comes down to content and the fact that tic-tac is doing it better than the quote unquote American companies, right?

[00:02:23] Like, but they know that they can't get rid of tic-tac on the grounds of content because that would be a violation of the first amendment rightfully so. So they trump up this nonsense about it being national security. When tic-tac as we know it has... It's not the same app that's in China.

[00:02:45] Yeah. And okay, even if it... even if it were, all right, if your concern is national security, people in government can't have it. That's all you gotta do. There's a ton of services that people in government are not allowed to use because of national security concerns.

[00:03:02] But if tic-tac, if you're gonna pretend with a straight face that tic-tock is somehow more susceptible to, you know, what would you call that data retrieval or people taking people's information, then you should just not have internet. Period. Because newsflash, if a foreign adversary, no matter who they are, wants the information on your computer, they can get it.

[00:03:32] Point blank, they can get it. So what this is really about is the average everyday American tic-tock user who is sometimes just using it for fun. Most of the ones that are concerned about this are the people that are actually have started and are growing businesses, you know, or followings or, you know, just trying to earn a living in a lot of cases. And you're removing that opportunity.

[00:03:59] Now, if the other social media apps were doing the same thing, then it, I mean, it would kind of suck, like it would still be immoral and wrong, but it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But point blank, tic-tock straight up changed how social media is done. It is. Tic-tock, I mean, tic-tock, cheese. YouTube rolled out YouTube shorts. Instagram rolled out Instagram reels. Purely to compete with tic-tock's format.

[00:04:27] Including the aspect ratio, which is, you know, the mobile aspect ratio, the nine by 16 instead of the 16 by nine, because it's, it's on your phone, you know, it's, it's this way, not this way kind of thing. Yeah. Like, they didn't invent it, but I mean, they, the entire industry changed. And that they're just jelly. They're just straight up jealous.

[00:04:54] That's what I was about to say is like, let's be real here, people. It's not about national security. It's about they are, they're jealous and, and they don't like us talking. They don't like us getting the real news on tic-tock more than on mainstream media. So this, this idea that the government doesn't like the open sharing of information is not new.

[00:05:23] We've always kind of had, which is why the founders understood how important it was to have free speech and a free press freedom of religion, all that, because they knew because they lived through it. There were going to be times where the truth, or even just because here's the thing about tic-tock, there's a lot of good information, there's a lot of bad information.

[00:05:45] That's the point of, you know, the public square, so to speak, the metaphorical public square, is you go there, and somebody goes out there and says, I got a really dumb idea. But here it is, and then people hear the dumb idea, and if it's a genuinely bad or false idea, people used to test it. And then it would be labeled a good or a bad idea, but it would, it would be put out there.

[00:06:13] Now, it seems that, and this is somebody who not tic-tock ironically, but tic-tocks removed a fair amount of my videos for dumb reasons. So tic-tock censorship is problematic too. Like it's, it's real bad on certain subjects where they don't even care. I'll put it to you this way. I'm not going to mention the name for fear of being de-platforming you, but all we did was say a person's name, and we were actually making fun of this person, not supporting this person.

[00:06:43] But because we used his name, the video was removed for community guidelines violation, which that's why we upload to multiple platforms, because it happens. I think we've had a video removed from every platform at least one time. It happens. That's why we have multiples. But what tic-tock has done is kind of brought back with a vengeance.

[00:07:05] I'm not saying it's not there, but particularly during COVID, you know, YouTube, Instagram, Instagram wasn't that bad, but YouTube, Facebook, especially, they really cracked down on the sort of alternative ideas, which is people discussing things. Even people just asking questions.

[00:07:24] When all that was going on, I got a lot of news that I only saw on tic-tock from tic-tock and irrefutable evidence like video and not AI generated video evidence like the tic-tock was where I found out about the video of Brazil where police forcibly vaccinated people, you know, because people were uploading videos. I saw videos, not the October 7th rocket attacks, but other rocket attacks going on in Israel.

[00:07:53] I saw those happening live because people were live streaming it on tic-tock. And when you can live stream the news with people on the ground and the platform allows it. That's dangerous because you can't spin the narrative then. Or at least it's harder to spin the narrative. Yeah, exactly.

[00:08:13] I think with me like with like with me, I didn't know about the California fires until tic-tock. Tic-tock showed me the fires. Well, people were here's here's another thing. This is another reason why a lot of people don't like tic-tock. People have been talking about the possibility of wild and the real risk of wildfires in California since 2019. It's on there.

[00:08:40] It's it's regular people in California talking about like that's a fire waiting to happen. It's only a matter of time. And then and I'm not giving grief to anybody in particular. It's just these are conditions. This did not come out of nowhere. And people were talking about it on tic-tock. Tic-tock was how I found out about the federal government only giving people 700 bucks after the Hawaii fires. I saw that on tic-tock first. Yeah.

[00:09:07] So, yeah, it's really hard to spin the narrative when people are openly talking about the narrative on a place that doesn't, you know, censor it for the most part. But Facebook just came out and openly admitted that they were being told to censor information and de-platform people during the pandemic. Like Mark Zuckerberg came out and made a statement and was just on Joe Rogan and laid it all out.

[00:09:32] The stuff that the quote unquote crazy people were saying about Facebook being basically a government apparatus. Zuckerberg just came out and said it all and admitted there's multiple things like somebody, a higher up director in FEMA advising people not to, you know, go to people with had Trump signs in their yards. Like that's confirmed fact. Mark Zuckerberg, I swear.

[00:10:02] Mark Zuckerberg. But hey, hopefully, hopefully Facebook turns it around. And I love how everybody like you, you don't have to like Elon Musk, but here's the thing. The community notes on X are actually great. It's a democratized, what would you call that? A democratized fact checker, meaning that the community notes are phenomenal and Facebook's going to adopt them. Because it's much better than a designated fact checker because fact checkers are human. Sometimes in the best scenario, sometimes people get stuff wrong.

[00:10:32] But when it's the community that's curating it, if the community notes wrong, somebody else will correct it. Yeah. You know, Wikipedia has been around for ages and Wikipedia is still edited by the users. There is no central authority, or I mean there is, but there's no central authority that is exclusively responsible for creating and editing articles that's done by the users. Not every user, but you know what I'm saying.

[00:11:01] And TikTok's the town square and big government's afraid of the town square. They always have been for obvious reasons. And the irony, the irony is that the United States is saying that it's because China is a foreign adversary and that this app is controlled by China when it's not. It might be influenced by China, but it's certainly not controlled by it. I mean, the company is headquartered in Singapore.

[00:11:26] And all the data, if you believe the CEO, which I do, all the data of American users is kept in Texas. Yeah. Like. Like Oracle is literally in fucking Texas. Yes. Well, in this. Okay. So here's another thing for all, for all the people that are jumping over to red note or whatever it's called. That is a Chinese app. Yeah. And here's a funny thing about that though.

[00:11:52] Everyone is doing it to protest against the government and saying, well, if you're worried about a Chinese giving us our data, we'll, we'll go over the, over the red book and, and give it ourselves. Okay. So that actually makes me feel a little bit better about it. Yeah. I didn't think about that, honestly, but yeah, now, now I get it. Cause there's even Duolingo, like Duolingo's TikTok is uploading videos of like Mandarin phrases, you know, to switch, you need to know to switch over.

[00:12:20] Or it was like one day on red book, one day on red book. And then they start speaking Mary Mandarin after that. Yeah. Um, but by the same token, I'm a walking, I'm a walking, um, um, contradiction, but by the same token, I also don't trust the Chinese communist party at all. And like, yeah, originally, originally when they first started talking about banning TikTok, I wasn't, I don't like the word ban, but I was sort of in favor of at least looking into it to say like, you know what?

[00:12:49] Maybe there's something there. Let's, let's look into it. Let's see if the Chinese communist party actually does have access to this information. Uh, turns out, even if they do, Congress is stupid. Cause I watched those first TikTok hearings when they had the CEO, uh, testifying. Yeah.

[00:13:09] And there was a representative from my state who we did a short about this on average intelligence who I'm paraphrasing, but said something to the effect of, well, when I get on TikTok, all I see is homosexuals. And he said, all I see is little girls and homosexuals dancing. And I'm watching in real time. I'm watching this live and I just go, who's going to tell him?

[00:13:37] Who's, who's going to tell him how the algorithm works? Cause like now in his defense, I know exactly what happened. He downloaded the app cause he's never used it before. Cause he was told that if you get in there, there's nothing but, you know, homosexuals and little girls dancing around. So that's what he searched for. And the TikTok algorithm is so good. I don't know why I lapsed into Trump there. The TikTok algorithm is so good. It's the greatest algorithm ever. It's greatest, the greatest, not better than mine, but it's the greatest.

[00:14:06] Um, the TikTok algorithm is so good. That when you search for something, especially TikTok goes, okay, blood them with this. Yeah. Like blood them, blood their feed. Really? He fucked himself over by doing that. And you could see it on the CEO's face where he was like, don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it. It was like, I have to say this in the most respectful. There were so many moments like that.

[00:14:36] And there was another guy who asked him, I was like, well, does TikTok access the wifi? And the CEO was just literally like, he's like, he, you can see it on his face. And I mean, a thousand points to TikTok for professionalism because he could have just been like, are you? Do you try to be stupid or were you born that way? Like. It's, it's wild.

[00:15:05] It's, but then he, but then he's just like, well, I, yes. If, if the user wants to use TikTok by connecting to wifi. And he was like, so no, I'm asking, will it access my router? And he said, Senator. Yes. If it, but you, you don't have to use wifi to use TikTok. But if you connect to wifi, like, yes, but it doesn't access any other information that your phone or computer isn't already using. Like he was like, how can I answer this really stupid question in a way that this clear moron will understand?

[00:15:37] I felt so bad for him, but I mean, he handled it like a boss. And my opinion then changed. Or that guy that kept asking him if he's from China and he kept saying, no, I'm from Singapore. Well, and that, that's, that's concerning on a whole new level because. First of all, that center probably doesn't know what Singapore is. And even if he does, like. I won't have a fan. I mean, they have, I don't have the greatest relationship with China.

[00:16:07] Like they're like, yes, the people that live in Singapore are Asian, but they're, it's not China. It's, it's not. It's not. It's a whole different country. Where they generally speak, they speak English for the most part. I'm given to understand. I've never been to Singapore, but. Yeah, I'm given to understand that English is like the primary language. I'm sure some of them speak Chinese, but I'm sure some of them speak.

[00:16:34] A wealth of other languages, probably French feel like hootie tootie people feel like if they speak French, they're somehow fancier. I don't know. I just thought to myself, like. Do we need to pull up a map to see where Singapore is or do we. I think that if you administered a job, a world geography test to members of Congress, you would be horrified by the results. I think you would be legitimately afraid.

[00:17:02] No, I don't want to do it. I don't think you do because we would have an actual purge on our hands. The movie Civil War would no longer be fiction. It would be real. They would just march on Washington. But in all fairness, too, I think that if you administer a world geography test to the vast majority of Americans, you would be horrified by the results. Congress is made up of representatives of Americans. So I'm not dogging on my country. I'm just saying it's probably true.

[00:17:34] It's probably true. I think the lawyer for Tiktok brought up a really good point. It's a point I've been making to those the fact that, well, OK, if you're going to be on Tiktok, there's at least half a dozen other apps that just that you have to ban just on principle. Yeah, that are that are really worse than Tiktok, like Timu, Sheen, Alibaba. There's there's a wealth and then. OK, so and this is something they haven't discussed.

[00:18:05] Unless maybe you can enlighten me if they have. So if they if they if they ban the app right, you can still access Tiktok dot com on your computer. Yeah, I think so. And I think you'll still be able to be on the app. Yeah, just it just won't update. Yeah, but OK, just use a VPN. And people are saying people are saying that the VPN won't work. Why?

[00:18:34] I don't know. No, VPNs absolutely work like that's how people access international libraries on Netflix and whatnot. Like, yeah, it absolutely will. You just change your location to anywhere else in the world. And and OK, but let's say hypothetically that it doesn't work. If you live close enough to Canada, people will drive across the border just to update their Tiktok.

[00:19:00] I live like not even I live very close to Canada, actually. Oh, really? Are you? I'll edit this out. Are you in the UP? Um, I'm not. I'm in the low. Oh, OK, but yeah, I mean, you're relative. Well, you're less. Yeah. Relatively.

[00:19:23] I'm just I'm just asking because I once I once I was on like a weekend trip in upper upper peninsula Michigan and we literally shrugged our shoulders one day and we're like, let's just go to Canada. And we did. And so, I mean, I'm not in the upper city, but I still am. You're still relatively you're still relatively close. Yeah. Yeah. So I could just drive there and just be like, OK, this is my home now.

[00:19:52] Well, and the people that live close to the southern border, I mean, they can just drive to Mexico. Yeah. I mean, it's right there. Literally, I could just text. I could literally text Justin and be like, OK, I'm coming. Well, Justin's on the other side of the country, but he's way over on West. Oh, well, still I'll go there. What do you mean? I'm in Canada. Oh, gosh. Yeah.

[00:20:20] The whole thing is just so silly. It's just so silly. It is. And I don't. Did you watch the Senate of that was on the 10th? No, I'll be honest. I didn't because I just can't watch these people anymore. Like over this. No, it's so dumb because here's the thing. It became very clear to me. It became clear to me during the initial hearing.

[00:20:43] But as this saga has gone on, it became very, very clear to me that the vast majority of this comes from wanting to curate content. And as an extreme advocate of free speech.

[00:21:02] The fact that the case hasn't been thrown out yet is mind boggling to me because it's like, OK, and this just shows the ignorance of the courts in general is like, OK, you're saying it's a national security concern. Right. Right. Demonstrate to me a time when Tick Tock has accessed sensitive information. Name one, because the last time I checked, if you can't be convicted of a crime, then legally speaking, it didn't happen.

[00:21:33] So give me evidence. This is all speculation. Well, they did bring that up. They brought that up on the 10th and. I can't remember what they said, but like they did bring that up. And yeah, I heard I heard one bit about the lawyer representing the government, like just really struggling with the English language. And they grilled her. They grilled her. They should because it's stupid. They laughed at her. They laughed.

[00:22:03] Yeah, I know. And and it it's stupid. It's so incredibly stupid. And I heard one of the justices, I forget it said who it was. I just can't remember. But she even said she was like, well. Like. Everybody knows that it's tied to China, like everybody already knows that. So it's not like this is there's no cloak and dagger happening here. And it's like, OK, yes, I I'm willingly giving up the information that they're taking.

[00:22:34] Because to me, the experience of the app outweighs the information they're taking. As long as I consent to it, it's fine. And then and then the the government lawyer was like, and then she brought up like of like, well, to talk like uses it to like for like against people to to to get people to fight or something against each other. Oh, yeah, I saw that. OK, that's social media. And I think if you're going to. OK.

[00:23:04] Facebook's the worst for that. So if that's your criteria, Facebook needs to go all social media needs. The Internet needs to be turned off if your argument is, well, it makes people fight. Yeah. And I would like to remind everyone before the Internet, there were TV shows where people got on there and screamed at each other. So and before that, there were radio programs where people got on there and screamed at each other.

[00:23:31] And before that, people used to actually shoot each other in duels because somebody said something snarky. So I'll take a mean comment section over literal duels any day. And then like one of the justices clap back and was like, isn't that true with everywhere? Like in and if that's the case, I think that that they're winning. Well, not only that, if that is your argument, that that is a blatant violation of the First Amendment, if you take it away on that ground. Yeah.

[00:24:01] Like, it seems like no matter what you do, because you can't prove a national security concern. And if it's about content, First Amendment. Now, the best they can hope for is an age restriction. But guess what? TikTok already has that. There's already an age restriction. And he did me proud show. I believe his name is the CEO. Yep. During that first hearing, he was like, no, we have a we have. I forget the age.

[00:24:31] I think it was under 16. Under a certain number. There's a ton of parental controls. They're easy to use. They walk you through how to do it. You just have to look up the information. It's very easy. And you can pair like if you got kids that are on TikTok, you can pair it with your phone so you can see everything they're seeing. Yeah. You can literally look at their watch history and not even need their phone. You these are things you can do.

[00:24:55] So what point at what point is the individual responsible for, you know, content curation? The application gives you all the tools that you need. It's just people are refusing to use them. And some people do use them and they have a great time. They have a great experience. And I would like to point out, too, I I want to mention something that had happened yesterday. And I think I told you about this.

[00:25:25] I texted you this. I texted you this. So last night, Trump came out. There was a Washington Post article that that Trump was on, and he quoted that he is going to find ways to pause the ban once he's on day one in office. Nice shit you not. An hour after that, Biden announces on.

[00:25:55] On his platform, like, like, like he announces on on NBC that he's going to stop the ban. We're at stop it. We're at we're at keep all clocks running to say they want to get rid of tick tock. I say no, we need clocks. And we're gonna keep them. Where am I? It's it's it's the hostage with Hamas all over again.

[00:26:23] Like there are people who are saying with a straight face. So it's like, well, Biden did that. No, he didn't. And this. Well, let me just clarify. This is just Biden trying to take a trying to take credit for for Trump pausing the ban. Well, and I here's the thing, though, and this is why it's so frustrating.

[00:26:45] If Biden had said from the outset of all this, he's being like, I don't know why they're even talking about this, because I'm not going to because the law gives the president authority. So just because they uphold the law doesn't even mean it's banned. The president still has to do it. So if the law is passed, which actually, I would tweak some things. On its face, the law is not awful.

[00:27:07] But I think I think it needs a higher burden of proof to prove that an application or company is actually a national security risk from a foreign adversary. But, you know, on its on its face, I just don't like how vague it is. When I was when I was perusing through it, I was like, this is way too vague. Yeah. Like, this is far too and this is going to be abused hardcore.

[00:27:34] The alleged intent behind the law is not necessarily a bad one. But when it comes to tick tock. It's like, first of all, it doesn't even qualify, but even if it did, the president still has to say, yes, ban it. And the president, no matter who it is, to a certain extent, the president's a horror to the people, because if. This is the the wildest thing to me, I'm trying to think of a good example.

[00:28:01] I mean, there's a ton of websites out there that are scam websites, right? They're clearly run by, you know, probably foreign adversaries, but let's I'm going to create a fake app. I'm going to call it. Watch I watch Iran, but spelled different. And it's it's a social media company based out of Iran. Right. And this is clearly, you know, taking people's data, hacking into people's phones, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes.

[00:28:29] I would very much like that app to not be available in the United States, because unfortunately, some people are stupid and most of them are in government. But some people are stupid. And I guarantee you there would be some staffer somewhere who's on it doing dance videos and. They hack into their phone and they're able to access this person's microphone in a top secret security meeting. You know. It's not it's not impossible. Right. But when it comes to tick tock, like.

[00:28:59] Oh, OK, I remember the point I was going to make, but let's say this this app, Trump gets it. I'm going to ban watch Iran. I'm going to ban it. It's going to be banned. And then if enough people kick up a fuss about it, he'll be like, I'm not going to ban it. It's a great app. It's a wonderful app. I had to look. Man, he told me. It's completely safe, you know, because enough people kick up a fuss. So this whole thing.

[00:29:27] It's playing politics and just the dumbest way. I don't even understand it. Actually, I probably do, because I bet if you look at the portfolios of the people that wrote that bill, they probably invest heavily in meta. If I had to. If I had to guess, you know. And if I'm not mistaken, tick tock is a privately held company. It's not a publicly traded one. So they can't they can't invest in tick tock. Yeah.

[00:29:51] Not only that, but like people all over tick tock are saying like, oh, he's going to sell to Kevin O'Leary. He's going to sell to Elon Musk. And I'm like, no, they're not going to sell. They said point blank that they were never going to sell. Well, because I don't think the band's happening, but actually I did. I did chuckle at the headline of like tick tock consider selling to Elon Musk.

[00:30:19] And I'm like, oh, that's going to troll the left hard because they hate Elon Musk more than they hate China. Yeah. So. I'm just like, oh, to to Shay government to Shay. Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm just saying, like, even Kevin O'Leary is like, I'm going to buy tick tock. I'm like, you can't buy tick tock.

[00:30:47] It show show has said it's not for sale. Yeah, it's it's not. And why would it be? Because here's the thing, even if they ban it, it will be a temporary ban because the negative effects will far outweigh any perceived positives the government may have had. Like, I'm kind of surprised people. I mean, I'm sure people are protesting, but I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a bigger. Fuss kicked up, but I think that's because most people understand what this really is.

[00:31:15] And they know that it started out as a show and then they saw how mad it was going to make people. And now they're like, OK, we just got to like slowly back away from this. Yes, slowly back away. But the fact that there are people in Congress who are using tick tock and voted for the ban, I'm just kind of like, well. I kind of want to buy you a dictionary.

[00:31:38] And bookmark the word hypocrite in there, like where you where you'll find it, because if it's so dangerous. I'm so mad about my about like my congressman. She she's like, can voted for the ban. I'm like, who's your congressman? I can't think of her name. I can't think of her name. Yeah, that would be a representative, not your senator.

[00:32:09] Yeah, that's funny because I have a I have a super Republican. Oh, no, I didn't remember. I don't know if he's taken off this shit. But I don't think either. Debbie Dingle, that's her name. Oh, yeah. And does she have a tick tock, though? I have no idea. Don't know.

[00:32:39] We're going to find out. Oh, geez. You said it was Debbie Diggle, right? D. Yeah. Dingle. Dingle. Debbie Dingle. Yeah. Which I heard that name. I'm like. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. OK, to be fair, I don't think she has one. So.

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[00:34:07] Because I'm such an optimist, not really, but I always I hope for the best and plan for the worst. So I've been thinking about it. It's like, well, what do we what do we do if tick tock goes away now? Personally, it doesn't really affect me all that much. What affects me is it because they're sanctioning ByteDance, not tick tock. Yeah. So if ByteDance goes away. They make my favorite video editor of all time. Yes.

[00:34:37] And that will really piss me off. Now I have it downloaded. So I think. See, that's OK. So that's another thing, though, because software on a computer is much harder to regulate because you can just direct download it. So I think I'll be OK, at least for the desktop version, which is what I use the most anyway. And theoretically, I can use it for the mobile stuff. I just prefer to do it on my phone. But I can I can make it work.

[00:35:06] But yeah, I love CapCut so much. I know. And I thought about that. And that's why I was like, oh, I thought about that. I was like, oh, shit. I don't think it's going anywhere, though. I'll be honest. I don't I don't think it is because. Well, here's the frustrating thing, too. So, OK, ByteDance. When you've got a company that big. Like this meta makes other stuff other than social media, too.

[00:35:35] Now, like they make hardware. So it's really hard to sanction a company. Right. It's really difficult, especially a software company, because theoretically, you can just download it like. Hardware is easier because you can prevent it from being imported. Like, well, like, for example, you can't. I have to. I might be wrong on this, but Huawei phones like you can't. Yeah.

[00:36:02] I think you can have one here, but you can't attach it to a carrier. Yep. I guess because I think I seem to remember a video where Joe Rogan was talking about it, where he says he has one and he can't even. I think he said he can connect it to Wi-Fi, but he can't like use it as a phone. Right. Because it won't it. It just won't work with our carriers. They won't allow it. But it's funny, though, because. This is a this sounds random, but it's not because.

[00:36:33] We were playing. I'm saying that with my girlfriend and her son, and we were playing. There's this YouTube channel where they do like guessing games, logo games anyway. He just happened to have a logo game going and. The Huawei logo came up in the only reason I know what the Huawei logo looks like is because of like video shorts that I've done. So I guess to me, I was like Huawei and she kind of looked at me like, how do you know what Huawei is? Because apparently they're really big in Venezuela or they're really big around the world. Just not.

[00:37:02] I don't know about Canada, but she's like, how do you know about Huawei? Because apparently when she came to the States the first time her phone wouldn't work because it was a Huawei phone. So. So she got a crash course in U.S. Chinese relations right out the gate. But yeah, so. That's what would really make me mad is if they took CapCut away because I love CapCut so much. As an editor, I have so many toys in CapCut.

[00:37:32] It's not it's ridiculous. I edit. I edit everything in CapCut now. I just love it so much. It's such a great tool. And like, it really pisses me off because I mean, there's a free version of it. You just don't have all the cool toys. And even the free version is still a really good editor. It's great. It's it's and it's cheap. I think you pay nine. Yeah, you pay nine. Nine. I should know that because I I sell CapCut Pro.

[00:38:01] I'm going to we're here at RTA Media. We're CapCut Pro affiliates. So, yeah, you should. Well. I'm going to hold off on clicking that link in the description because if it's banned, then obviously I don't want you to spend money, but obviously don't do it. It's down there, though. It's down there because it's it's phenomenal. But if you click that link, you get seven days free to try it out. But yeah, if you're making any kind of content, I just I can't say enough about CapCut. It's great.

[00:38:31] And yeah, it probably is stealing my information, but I don't have any money. So fuck it. What are you going to take from me? Nothing. My opinions. Yeah, my opinions aren't secret either. They're broadcast to the world weekly. Oh, my God, I was gonna say something and then you just like made me laugh in the middle of what I was gonna try to say. I'm just saying you broke me.

[00:38:57] Yeah, I'm like, I always make the joke that if my wallet ever gets stolen, I'm the one who's gonna walk away going sucker. You're gonna open that thing and be real disappointed. You're gonna open that thing and Bob's gonna come play it out. Yeah. Where's all the money? Wish I knew, brother. No, I'm kidding. I'm not that broke, but I mean, like, I'm not.

[00:39:20] There's nothing on this computer that I would have any issue with being broadcast to the world. So I really don't care if the Chinese Communist Party is looking at the video shorts that I edit. Like, I don't care. Some of them talk shit about them. So. All of my stuff is on my top socket wallet. If they take my actual wallet, shit out of luck, cause all my crap's here. You have a decoy wallet? Nice, smart.

[00:39:50] Yeah. I had a decoy wallet when I traveled abroad. I remember reading it in a, I forget what it was, but it was basically like a, like good ideas for international travel. And they, cause I don't care if you're watching this and you're a pick pocket. Plug your ears. Cause I don't carry my wallet in my back pocket. Like a lot of people do. I carry it in my front pocket. Yeah. Because this thing advised me because of somebody. We, first of all, most people go for the back pocket.

[00:40:20] Cause that's where most men carry their wallets. And if somebody tries to pick your front pocket, it's not impossible, but it's much harder for obvious reasons. So I just always carried it there. But when I was traveling, I had a decoy wallet in my back pocket with like an expired debit card that didn't work anymore anyway. And like, they recommended you put something in there so that they don't immediately come back to you. But yeah, I had an old, old debit card that was like two years expired.

[00:40:47] And like, I think I had like five bucks in it. So they'd be like, all right, I scored. And then they try to use the card and they're like, shit. I've been bamboozled again. Oh, that's so funny. Oh, but no, this is like my actual wallet, but like, I always have my phone on me and I don't let that, that, that sucker go. So you heard it here, folks. Go for the phone.

[00:41:17] Fuck you. No, that's, that's the, that's the bit I always do whenever a partner or whoever, like, you know, Oh, watch my purse or whatever. I always hold it up and go, the bidding will start at $50. Oh, but yeah. I mean, they used to say the government doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. They're additional people. They're just like, well, what is this? What does this do?

[00:41:46] And it's like, they don't know. See, I, ironically though, I honestly think there is grounds to get rid of, to ban Timu, for example. Yeah. Different grounds, but I think there are legitimate grounds. But again, I hate the word ban. I don't like the word ban.

[00:42:02] I think what I would do if I were emperor and could with the stroke of a pen change the law, I would make it to where if the app wasn't a legitimate national security concern, but they had, they harvest data, for example. Just put it in a disclaimer when you sign up. Nobody, I know nobody reads that shit anyway, but just make it that that's the requirement. It's like they did it with cigarettes, damn it. And they're trying to, I believe they're trying to do it with alcohol if they haven't already.

[00:42:31] My memory's failing me, but just put a warning before you sign up to say like this app collects the following data, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, except. Yeah. And then, frankly, I'm kind of surprised they don't do that anyway, because then they, when you have a disclaimer, people can't get mad at you. I mean, they can get mad at you, but they can't do anything about it.

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[00:43:53] I don't know. Trump's really hard to read. But, and I believe me, I'm going through it. I'm going through it hardcore, but. It's like we had a text exchange to where. I basically said something to the effect of like, watch Trump through this and other actions in a second term. Become the most popular president in modern history. Yeah. Yeah. And that will make me laugh so hard because. Here's the dirty little secret guys. Trump is a moderate.

[00:44:22] And he always has been. Trump has always been a moderate now a very loud one, but he has always been a moderate. My. What I think is going to happen. Is I think. Because Trump is very good at this. Trump is very good at talking. Like I'll use the. The canvas since everybody's talking about I'll use this as an example. And I find it so laughable that people don't understand this after having gone through a Trump administration. Trump is a master at manipulating.

[00:44:52] Unintelligent people. So here's what he wants to do. So Trump wants to legitimately get more U.S. control at the Panama Canal. Great. That's fine. Yeah. But because of his reputation, he can't lead with that. Right. Because then people will be like, oh, he's just trying to be an imperialist, blah, blah, blah. It's going to happen. So what does he do? He throws a curveball up north to Canada and say, you know, I think it'd be really great if Canada became the 51st state. And then all the Canadians go. Oh, fuck you, buddy.

[00:45:20] You know, and they start a fight there. And then he goes, you know what? I really think we should buy Greenland. I might use the military to take it, but I think we should buy it. And then when he does that, most people go, he can't do that, blah, blah. But then some people go. Actually, you know, I don't know. I don't like the way he's going about it, but he's kind of got a point, you know, like, and even people in Greenland are like.

[00:45:46] He has a point, you know, it's like, because fuck Denmark, you know, like 57. 57% of people polled said that they would join the United States in Greenland. So it's kind of like, that's not nothing. It's probably not going to happen, but that's not nothing. But now the idea of the United States overseeing the Panama Canal becomes a lot more palatable by comparison. Right. Trump does this, has done it and will continue to do it all the time. Again, I suspect.

[00:46:17] And I hope I'm right on this, because Trump and I, at least on the surface, disagree vehemently about immigration policy. But what I think he's going to do is using all this talk, this fearful talk to broker a deal to finally solve, for example, the DACA crisis or not crisis, but the DACA problem. Because I said from day one, I've always criticized DACA because it's not enough. It's a stopgap. It's not a permanent solution. And I don't understand why it wasn't a permanent solution. Actually, I do.

[00:46:46] It was to try and get votes. But, you know, but again, he has, he has to go to the extreme to get people scared, to get them to come to the middle, where he wants to be in the first place. He does it with tariffs all the time. He says, I'm going to charge a 50% tariff if you don't give us what we want. And then they give him what he wants. And I don't know that everybody's better for it, but the United States, generally speaking, is.

[00:47:16] It depends. Like the Canadian aluminum thing. Bad example. But, you know, so I suspect that's what will happen here, is I think you will get some concessions from ByteDance. For example, though, they added somewhat recently on TikTok, they did add a STEM feed, which I love. I think that's great. Because if you haven't noticed it on, if you go to your TikTok screen on the far top left, you see STEM.

[00:47:46] It's all science and, oh, you can't see it. It's too bright. Here, let me lower the brightness. Maybe that'll work. Does it work? Yeah. It's all math and science in the STEM field. Everything is math and science. And according to the government, that's bad. Well, to be fair, during the first hearing, it wasn't, it didn't exist. They added it. Yeah. But it's like, okay, great. I love it. Sometimes I just go to the STEM field and feel stupid.

[00:48:15] Sometimes I just want to feel dumb. And they're like, solve this SAT question. I'm like, nah, let's go back to cats. Yeah, let's just, let's just go back to cats. Cats and dogs. That's where I'm at. Which is funny because I, I love, you can actually tell a lot about somebody based on their TikTok feed.

[00:48:42] And let's just say there's a lot of dogs and cats on my video. And I've been fascinated by bird videos lately. I don't know why. Well, they keep inundating my feed because I saw one that I found kind of funny and knowing how the TikTok algorithm works. They're like, oh, birds. Nikki Clear likes birds. And they're influencing me, man. It's, it's bad. Cause now I'm like, kind of want a bird now. But you can't just get one. Cause they get lonely.

[00:49:12] So you have to get two. And yeah, so that's the thing that hopefully won't happen, but. Ah, let's hope not. Damn you, TikTok. Ban it. Oh, well then. Like for me, I w I've been in like these. TikTok. Um, ban protest lives. And ever since then.

[00:49:39] Um, my, my, my, my for you page has been all about the ban, all everything about the ban. I'm like, oh God. Oh yeah. Well, that's the other thing too. So TikTok, TikTok's really, it's, it's really robust. It's kind of scary, but it's just because the technology is so good. Like even the stuff that you post will to a certain extent, curate what shows up in your feed.

[00:50:02] Cause clearly if you're doing me, for example, if you're posting a lot of videos about the Titanic movie, you're going to get Titanic videos on your feed. It's going to happen. You know? And I guess that's I sentimentally for TikTok. I mean, I don't want it gone because I don't want anything to be banned unless it's legitimately dangerous. And even then I don't like the word ban. I prefer curated, but. And then plus like a bunch of the people that have podcasts on our network right now are because of TikTok. Yeah. Right. Right.

[00:50:32] And, and let's just. I go back to what I said earlier was you need a legitimate excuse to ban it with proof and you have no proof. None. None whatsoever. Yeah. Unfortunately, I believe this. Well, it's, I don't know what you would call this. I think this would qualify as a, well, it's certainly not criminal, but I, this is really just governmental.

[00:51:01] I don't know if that would be considered civil or what, but. It just seems like a tremendous overreach in my opinion. And the fact that they claimed that, that they like it, like in the TikTok hearing on the 10th, they literally like, the TikTok lawyer was like, yeah. And they told us that they had proof, but they wouldn't show it to us. If you don't know if that's. Then it's inadmissible. That's, that's not how this works.

[00:51:31] Right. Then you can't, if you won't let the, if you won't let the other side see it, then it's my, I'm not a lawyer, but it's my understanding that any evidence that's going to be presented has to be shared with the other side. So if you're not going to show it, then you don't get to use it. So. Great job. Did you watch suits to get your law degree?

[00:52:00] Like, like I'm not a lawyer, but I have to say, like I've seen the clips running around on, and trust me, TikTok has problems. Right. But. My biggest thing is I hate that some of my content will get taken out when there are channels that literally just stream whole movies and TV shows like live. And then there are channels with millions of views that simply upload clips of TV shows and movies. However, I now know why they get away with it.

[00:52:29] Because there's no less than six or seven shows or movies that I have watched now because I saw the damn clips on TikTok. And they know it. Hmm. So like I almost watched suits. I'm like, I don't want to watch suits. I want to watch suits. But I'm seeing all these clips and I'm like, I kind of want to watch suits. No, no. I have clips of death in our details and yet you're not, you didn't watch it. It's because I do not have time. I am intrigued by it. I just don't have time. You and Max, I swear.

[00:53:00] We're like, watch this. I'm like, when? When do you have struck me to watch this? Yeah. He told me yesterday, he said, just don't sleep. And I'm like, yeah, that'll go great. That'll go great. That'll be great. I'll go to work and I'll be tired. Crash on the waves. Ugh. Yeah, it would not be good. But yeah, I have so much crap I need to watch. Like Netflix just came out with this new show that's right up my alley and I'm sitting here.

[00:53:26] I'm literally trying to figure out when I can watch it and I'm like, I can't this week. I literally can't. There's no, there's no time. It's real rough. It's real rough. But yeah. All this to say. No, I think. All this to say, what the fuck government. I mean, to be fair, the government fucks up a lot. Yeah.

[00:53:57] Like literally, if you want to, if some people just sometimes you just want to get mad. Turn on C-SPAN. When the House or Senate is in session, it will infuriate you. Hmm. Just the sheer stupidity of what goes on in there. It will. It'll, it'll, it'll gnaw at you. Speaking of which TikTok knows I'm talking about, I'm getting a lot of notifications randomly.

[00:54:31] I'm on your side. I would say it in Mandarin, but I don't know how to say it. Oh my God. But yeah. Oh, and I was trying to, oh, I was going to say like, I watched C-SPAN for the first time because on the 10th, I was trying to figure out where to watch the, the Supreme Court hearing. And I kind of like C-SPAN. Right.

[00:55:00] I'm actually a really big fan of C-SPAN in concept. Cause I mean, I'll be blunt. A lot of it's boring, but I like the fact that you can watch in real time your government at work at any time they're in session, it will be on C-SPAN and you can watch it uninterrupted. Yeah. And it's amazing to me how many people don't know that. Like you absolutely can, obviously not the closed door committee meetings for national security reasons, but sometimes they do have committees.

[00:55:31] The, the ones that are like, um, like when people testify before the Senate and all that, or various committees in Congress, like most of that stuff is to, I believe all of it, but I could be mistaken. Um, most of the non-classified stuff, if not all of it is broadcast on C-SPAN. If it's not outright broadcast on like the open news, but C-SPAN does not interrupt for commercial breaks and the like, at least I don't think so. Right. And anymore, I think you can just go to their website. Like, even if you don't have cable, you can just go to c-span.com.

[00:56:00] I believe if, and they might even have a YouTube channel for all I know, but my point is you can watch it. You can absolutely watch it. You can watch your government be stupid whenever you want. Like, I can't believe some of the bullshit they argue about. It's absolutely ludicrous. Yeah. We've got people literally dying in fires in California and we're arguing about a

[00:56:30] fucking social media app. Yeah. Right. Right. And that's what a lot of my friends brought up too. It's like, we have fires in California right now. We have- The hurricane and yeah. Horrible healthcare. Horrible healthcare. And it's like, we're fucking fighting over an- Oh no, let's stop people from making money on a side hustle. Yeah.

[00:56:57] Because occasionally there's videos that say that you people are morons. Mm-hmm. Because that's what this is really about. I will say this, TikTok helped me create this podcast for you guys because I met this dude. What dude? Where's he at? You. Oh, I just saw what you were doing and I'm like, okay, clearly there's entertainment here. I know. Like, I mean, because yeah, I met this dude.

[00:57:27] Like I, and I met him on TikTok. Yeah. And then there are people like Justin's audience on TikTok is honestly bigger than YouTube. Not that he can't grow there, but it's, it's a different, you attract different people on TikTok versus YouTube. It's just a different demographic. So it just gives, if you're a content creator, it gives you more ways to access. And it's probably the most direct because like, for example, on YouTube, you can't direct

[00:57:57] message people anymore. You used to be able to many, many, many years ago, but you can't anymore unless there's a feature that I'm unaware of, but I don't see a messages tab being cat in the comments, but it's not the same. Like on TikTok, you can just DM somebody. They don't have to accept it, but you can. My friend went live on Instagram or not on YouTube for the first time, like a couple of days ago. Shit was scary over there. She, she, she was like, this, this is scary.

[00:58:27] Yeah. Cause they were like weird people. They were weird people asking very inappropriate questions. Well, yeah, that's YouTube. Thing is, if you go live on YouTube, you can't be afraid to make fun of the people in the comments section because first of all, they're probably not even people. And if they are, fuck them. Our only rule on average intelligence is if you dish it, be ready to get it. Cause we will respond in kind. Eric's a menace in the comments section.

[00:58:57] A lot of it's legitimately. If I see, I try to kill people with kindness and he's just like, yeah, fuck you and your mother. You can tell who's who in the comments section. And I, that's why I love Eric. I just said he just gives no fucks. He just doesn't. That's we've been friends for a very, very long time. He has not changed. That's how he's always been. And I appreciate that because here's the thing. You'll never know.

[00:59:26] You'll never wonder where you stand with him. You will always know. Yes. He will tell you straight up. But yeah, if you look in the comments section on average intelligence, you can tell exactly who's talking because I'm the one who's like, oh, that's really interesting. What makes you think that? And he's just like, fuck off. I just love. And that's why I love him because he just gives no fucks. And I'm like, I'm the same way. I give no fucks. Zero. Zero fucks given.

[00:59:55] Especially when virus messes with me. I give no fucks. I will fucking go right back. Okay. Okay. So I have to, I think you know this because I've mentioned it before, but just so you know, the Swayze thing. Mm hmm. You do know what happened after we finished that live podcast, right? What happened? So after, nobody would know this because it wasn't live, but he goes, he starts laughing. He was like, the funny thing is I love Patrick Swayze.

[01:00:28] She's like, I'm just doing it to get a rise out of. Hey, I defended the Swayze. Yeah. I absolutely defended the Swayze. Virus, if you're watching this, what I hope you are, watch it. Watch out. Watch yourself. Watch yourself. But yeah, I don't think TikTok is going to go anywhere. No, I don't either. I think we will. I think you'll see some changes probably, but for the better, probably.

[01:01:00] But yeah, I just. I can't see how they can justify. Even if the band goes through. I don't think it'll last for very long because and that's the other thing. There are ways around it. It's only a matter of time before. People because I don't. I think you can still do a direct download, too. So even if it's on the app store, for example, like I think they'll probably make a way where you can go to tick tock.com and download it directly so you can still have it on your phone.

[01:01:29] And you might have to manually update, but. It's whatever. Like. And I believe. And I believe. Either Biden's team or yeah, I think it was. It was either Biden's team or Trump's team. I can't remember which that said like you will not lose to talk on Sunday. It will. It won't go. It won't go. Well, I mean, it won't even go dark.

[01:01:56] At all, because which that was that was the only thing that I know what he was doing. The lawyer said that it would go dark. That was to strike some fear. But that's I don't. That's not what's going to because that is a blatant violation of the First Amendment. Mm hmm. Like it just it just is. And like, I mean, tick tock already curates content like so that's not a thing.

[01:02:21] And frankly, if you're going to stipulate that for tick tock, then Twitter's way worse. Mm hmm. Twitter is way worse. Mm hmm. You know, so where's the line? Right. And he was also like, come Sunday, Sunday morning, you will select tick tock. And I'm like, now you tell us that by the administration. Yeah, no. What are you trying to say?

[01:02:50] You're you guys already lost the election. What are you doing? We just just want to be able to say we say tech talk. You'll be able to tell time forever. It's it's it's the alligator. The thing, the scroll. Trump didn't do that. We did. Oh, my God. And that's why I learned. That's why I learned.

[01:03:20] I told you it was like he just lit a fire under my ass. Trump did. Yeah. Which I mean, it's kind of smart because let's say Biden saves tick tock. And then it turns out that it is a national security that Trump can be like, I knew from the beginning we should have banned it. But sleepy Joe, sleepy Joe wanted to scroll on his tick tock. And I said, no, Joe. And then and then if Joe, if Joe does ban it, he'll get in the mirrors. I told them I wouldn't abandon.

[01:03:52] OK, no, but they'll they'll come up with something. They'll they'll come up with something. Yeah. Either that or show just show will just start an American version. Somebody will. It'll be fine. Yeah. I do. And I do want to mention to everybody that there's a link. There's a petition going around to sign.

[01:04:14] To save tick tock, you sign it and then with it and they're they're trying to get up to a million signatures to go to the government. And so then they can save tick tock. So I will leave that in the down below, too. Yeah. Oh, gosh, that should be easy with the number of people that are on tick tock. There's already two over like over two two hundred thousand. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's that's not going to be hard.

[01:04:43] Yeah, just just don't be lazy. Just type your name in. Come on. Like governor. Senator Ro Khanna is the one that created that. So. Rose Biden would say, come on, man. You got to sign it. You got to sign it in the law. I'm going to miss him. No, I'm not. No, you're not. Don't lie. I'm going to miss doing the impression.

[01:05:15] Happy, happy, happy 14th of Father's Day. That was my favorite sticker. Actually, no, I take that back. My favorite sticker was him. And it said and underneath it says who shit my pants. But not before teeth the Father's Day is my second favorite. Oh, my God. Oh, but. Don't worry, we're still going to laugh. We're going to have a lot of laughs. Yeah. With Trump 2.0.

[01:05:43] And stay tuned because at the end of this video, you may or may not have a update. That's true. You may or may not. But here's the thing, people. If Trump does save TikTok, don't immediately go on there and shit talk him because then he's just kind of panicked. Trump is that petty. Okay. He's a petty bitch. Come on. He's very petty. He's a petty bitch.

[01:06:13] See, but here's the thing. And this is why I think the left will eat itself eventually, because let's say that Trump does prevent TikTok from getting banned, right? Mm hmm. The left will still go on there and be like, it was actually Joe Biden. It was actually Joe. It was actually Joe. It was actually Joe and Kamala that did it. And it's like. Mm hmm. And then they'll continue to shit talk Biden like. But I don't know. We'll see. I don't think TikTok is going to go anywhere. Yeah.

[01:06:39] No, I think it'll change, but I don't think it'll go anywhere. So. Yeah. Is that your final thought? Knock on wood. Yeah. And I don't know if any of the I don't think that any of the government are watching this this this podcast. I don't know. And if you are, then thank you, I guess. They're always watching.

[01:07:07] But if you are, you know, you fucking did this. So thank you. I love the government. They make the greatest decisions all the time. Vote for your local politician. And donate money. Donate all the money. You're literally you on your podcast.

[01:07:35] You talk about the government all the time. And on this podcast here, it's like, oh, kiss their ass. No, I'm just trying to save you for me. Because you'll be guilty by association then. True. True. No, I'll tell all of them where they can stick it. I have no problem. But yeah.

[01:07:57] Yeah, I hope that you guys are happy because because because because of you, 70 million business owners are going to lose their job, probably. And I never stray too far from the sidewalk. Oh, wait, we're talking about a different thing. Never mind. Yeah. No, but seriously, like, I mean, just even because they cannot prove.

[01:08:26] A legitimate, you know, national security threat. Just let the people alone. Like, leave them be. Let the people that started businesses on TikTok, like the people that grew their business on TikTok, let the people that created their brands on TikTok, just leave them alone. Yeah. Leave me alone. I started this podcast on TikTok. Leave me alone. Piss off. Piss off government. And I always say that is why at the end of the day, I love this country so much because

[01:08:56] I can get on here and tell the president of the United States to fuck off. And, you know, leave me alone. And I'm not, I'm not going to get a knock at the door saying like, you spoke ill of the king. And that's why this country is great. And I can, and you know what I can say, I can tell, tell the government and the president. They're here. No, it was just the dog.

[01:09:26] The dog was like, no, I can tell the government and the, the, the president to bite me, bite me. Joe won't bite you. He might sniff you, but he won't bite you. He's. I have to put it in my teeth. He's so weird, man. He's so weird. He really is. He's so weird.

[01:09:57] He's a, he's a strange fellow, but hopefully, Hey, if he saves TikTok, I'll give credit where credit's due. I still think it'll be Trump, but. I said I was going to be on hit on hedge on this episode and I wasn't as nearly as on hedge of thought. No, because I mean, it's fairly cut and dry. I mean, it's, it's really not a complex issue. The fact that we're still talking about it kind of boggles my mind because. It's ridiculous. I'm kind of, I'm amazed the ACLU is not involved here, but.

[01:10:27] They should. I know. I'm kind of surprised they're not, maybe they are. And I just haven't seen it. But. They should be, and they should stop this because. It is. Free speech people. It's a, it's a, it's a blatant. Like. It's against our first amendment rights blatantly against the first amendment, right? It's an infringement of. Free speech.

[01:10:57] If they're just if they're just if their justification is content, then yes, that's a legally true statement. Yeah. And. And. The most compelling arguments they have are about content, in which case it's like, well. Then.

[01:11:15] You know, people, if you would rather that that's, that's the best and worst thing about a free society is that people can choose what to do with their, with their time with their thoughts with their curation. So, if you want to watch dumb little videos, that's your prerogative. If you want to watch videos about math and science, that is also your prerogative. But it's your choice. If you want to go live with, with your friends that, that you met on TikTok, that's your prerogative.

[01:11:47] Yeah. It only stops with your doing something obscene or illegal. And I have no problem with not having obscenity on TikTok because it's a, again, it's a public forum. And I know there are people that argue free speech and it's like, you know what, legally, you might have a point. But at the same time. I think it's good that TikTok has what, what did you say? But at the same time, gross. Oh, I thought you said girls. I was like, what? Yeah, gross. Yeah. Okay. We're on the same page. Let's say that gross. Gotcha.

[01:12:17] That's gross. But yeah. Nah, I think I've said it four times already. TikTok will be fine. Yeah. I'm more concerned about CapCut, but TikTok will be fine. I'm more concerned about CapCut. I love that. I mean, I'm just being, I'm just being honest because I really wasn't like, I thought the thing was stupid from the beginning. But once I was like, wait a minute, they're gonna take away my CapCut? Fuck these guys.

[01:12:46] Oh, you started to get really serious about it when you realized like CapCut was a major too. Well, let's just realize what that means is they're, and I realize this is true for TikTok for a lot of people too, but they inhibit my ability to do work if they take away CapCut. Yeah. So, and everybody will say like, well, you can use a different editor. Yeah, but I haven't found one that's as good. With all the really cool tools.

[01:13:15] That are included. Like it's a really great program. And I'm kind of pissed that a Chinese, well, I'm going to even say, I don't even think it's a Chinese company, but I'm pretty pissed that an American company didn't make it. Like, that's the frustrating thing, because I would love to buy more American products, but they either don't make them or don't make them as well. Yeah.

[01:13:38] Like, well, cause I'm in the cabinetry industry and all my best quality stuff is if it's not handmade by our Amish supplier, which granted that is American, but until very recently, it was all imported from China. All the best stuff. The American stuff was crap. Now we do have an American company that opened up a little over a year ago, year or two ago, and their stuff's pretty good, but it is more expensive point blank, but it's good.

[01:14:05] So I like to sell them, but there's not only are they American, they're also local. So, but yeah, give me CapCut or give me something just like it. I almost like really go with the give me CapCut or give me death thing. Oh no, they can. I'm not going to die for CapCut. Like it's not that big of a thing. Yeah. I'm what you call a, I'm what you call a reserved patriot.

[01:14:35] It's like, I'll join the, I'll join the colonials as long as they're winning. No, I'm kidding. But yeah, no, I want, I want my CapCut. And I want my TikTok. And here's the thing, people, we started a revolution over a 3% tax. All right. So I'm not saying anything because I realized what that could sound like. So I'm just going to walk that back. And that is not a call for violence.

[01:15:04] I'm just saying we got pissed off over a 3% tax on T that wasn't even enforced. Yeah. So put that into perspective. Just give us our TikTok. Yeah. And we can start a nonviolent revolution over TikTok. A very nonviolent, peaceable, demure. Let's not go to Redbook though. Cause that, that just kind of stupid. Yeah. That's.

[01:15:33] Like, I understand y'all's, like, I idea, like thought process on that. Like, you know, give it to, to the man, but like. You're actually giving it to the man though. So don't do that. Yeah. You're, you're giving it to the man. Yeah. Like you're like, I get it. Stick it to the man, but you're also giving it to like the wrong people. You're giving it to a.

[01:16:04] You're giving it to big brother. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, save TikTok. Hopefully it's still around. Yep. So yeah, I, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Um, I will put a clip of, of, of the, um, of, of my reaction up to the, to the news of the Supreme Court.

[01:16:28] If TikTok is on their docket for the Supreme Court tomorrow. Um, so with that being said, I am off and I will see you, it turns dollars later. Live to see the future that you fight for.

[01:16:57] Maybe no one gets to reach that perfect day. If the work is never over. Maybe you might be. I'll, if you, you know. There are so many people who are watching, that we do know our. And we're doing, to the, to the of the day. Good.ner, of days later. Take care.