Part of your broadway world podcast (S3 EP8)| The Timeless Magic of West Side Story feat. Jake boger

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[00:00:53] Everybody and welcome to this week's episode of the party your broadway world podcast

[00:01:02] Today we are talking with Jake from the art a

[00:01:08] podcast the

[00:01:10] The tune talk 2.0 podcast and in the average intelligence podcast about West Side Story, so

[00:01:21] Let's welcome him in

[00:01:23] Hello, hi

[00:01:25] How are you? I'm doing good. I got a new setup. I saw I like it. I

[00:01:39] Better

[00:01:42] Changing

[00:01:46] Playbills

[00:01:52] Uh-huh. They are it's a poster of

[00:02:01] All the out all the costumes of every single show that's been on Broadway

[00:02:07] No shit in history

[00:02:11] Awesome. Yeah, where did you find that? I found this on Amazon

[00:02:16] All the all the best stuff is on Amazon and I found these on Amazon too, which I'm like

[00:02:21] Yeah, I saw I saw your Playbill pack

[00:02:23] I didn't realize you got it on Amazon, but I saw the unboxing for that

[00:02:26] I thought that was really cool. Although. I thought they were just yours. I thought they were those you would bend to well

[00:02:32] The ones I'm the ones I have are still on my door because I try to get them off and

[00:02:42] Transfer them to my billboard here, but I can't I can't get them off

[00:02:48] So so they're stuck on the doors, but so I just got different ones. So it's your show today. I'm just

[00:02:55] I'm just in long for the ride exactly. I like being along for the ride. It's you. It's exciting

[00:03:03] You're my prisoner now I can do whatever I want

[00:03:09] I'm not scared

[00:03:13] So today we're talking about West Side Story that we are both West Side Stories

[00:03:23] Yes

[00:03:26] So

[00:03:28] So what did you think of?

[00:03:31] Well, first of all, what did you think of the newer one? I really loved it and

[00:03:40] I know that the

[00:03:42] Because it didn't do well at the box office, but remind everybody it was was it 2021 or 2022?

[00:03:48] I can't remember now. I think it was 2022 22

[00:03:52] Yeah, 22, but it was still like theaters had just opened back up and there were still a lot of people that were

[00:03:57] Escared of going out in public. I wasn't

[00:04:02] And just the fact that unfortunately musicals aren't really in vogue right now or then

[00:04:08] In terms of like the general populace because there's always a group of people

[00:04:13] that are

[00:04:14] You know musical theater weeks

[00:04:17] But as far as them being in vogue right now

[00:04:20] They just aren't so I think it was a combination of COVID scare and the fact that the marketing was kind of pathetic

[00:04:28] For it which that was just the studios reacting to COVID anyway

[00:04:32] It didn't get the love that it deserved because technically speaking. It's a masterpiece. It looks incredible

[00:04:39] It's a beautifully shot movie which when I heard they were remaking West Side Story

[00:04:44] I went oh no, but then I saw that Steven Spielberg was directing and I was okay. It'll be fine

[00:04:49] It'll be fine and it was it was phenomenal and what it did

[00:04:53] Because I loved the original

[00:04:55] but it took the more dated aspects of the original and

[00:05:01] Made them better

[00:05:02] Yeah

[00:05:02] There were a couple of this is the best way I can describe it is there were a couple of choices that they made for the newer version

[00:05:09] That I wouldn't have made but they were so minor like it doesn't ruin the movie

[00:05:14] At all and then there were there were quite a few changes that I was like oh, I like this like

[00:05:20] Everybody's character is much more fleshed out Tony and Bernardo in particular

[00:05:25] Because they actually have backstories now

[00:05:28] Like you know that Bernardo's a boxer and you know

[00:05:34] They actually make it a point it was online that I didn't notice the first few times but then I rewatch both for

[00:05:40] You know our podcast today and when riff is challenging Bernardo to the rumble Bernardo kind of just goes listen. We got jobs

[00:05:49] Like we're busy and I'm like I like that

[00:05:52] I like the fact that you know the sharks all the Puerto Ricans are

[00:05:56] They make it a point to show that they're working very very hard

[00:06:02] But the sense you get from both movies, but I would say

[00:06:06] Probably the newer one a little bit more is that at the end of the day

[00:06:10] They're all kids right

[00:06:14] Right there every single one of them is a kid the jets in particular and I

[00:06:18] To me this is the same in both movies. The jets come off a little bit more juvenile than the sharks do

[00:06:25] But at the end of the day they are all kids

[00:06:29] Because it's like as an adult in my 30s watching this movie. I'm just like

[00:06:33] Somebody really should have taught you guys conflict resolution skills because all of this

[00:06:39] All of this could have been avoided

[00:06:41] Like every bit of it even with the gang rivalry in place like

[00:06:46] It's just miss under it's kind of like I don't know do you watch shameless?

[00:06:50] Yes, I love shameless

[00:06:52] Okay, so you understand it's it's so frustrating yeah people just ruin their lives. Thank you

[00:06:59] basic communication skills

[00:07:02] Could go a very long way here

[00:07:05] Or even just having like a mediator in the system in this situation when

[00:07:13] someone to like help with the conflict of

[00:07:17] Resolution in my opinion having a mediator be like, alright, you want this you want this looking at

[00:07:24] online and

[00:07:26] Creep some peace so then no one dies

[00:07:29] Yeah, well the overarching theme of this story though

[00:07:33] At least as far as I can tell is

[00:07:36] that

[00:07:38] You you'll never overcome hatred until there's a loss right and it takes

[00:07:43] Both sides to lose multiple people

[00:07:46] Well, I think I think the sharks only lose Bernardo, right? Yeah, I think yeah

[00:07:52] So but technically the Puerto Rican side loses to and technically the Jets lose to it's just one of those people

[00:07:58] Happens to be the same person because Maria loses Tony. Yeah

[00:08:01] But it's only after and they have to see it with their own eyes. They can't just be told about it

[00:08:06] it's only after it's only after riff and

[00:08:11] technically

[00:08:12] The the violence between the Jets and the sharks stops well actually no I take that back because of the whole

[00:08:19] Thing with Anita. Yeah, which so okay? Yeah, take that. Let's walk that back

[00:08:25] Say and Anita gets yeah, let's well. Yeah, we got to walk that back. Yeah my mistake. Yeah, well walk that way back

[00:08:33] But yeah, it takes both sides to experience tragedy for them to realize the hell are we fighting for?

[00:08:41] Like this is dumb right now when I agree and I would like to point out too after watching this movie. I'm thinking

[00:08:51] Wow, this really I don't know how but like this movie has a lot to do with like

[00:08:58] Like you like think about it really and there's like a lot of stuff that you can point out that that happens in today's society, too

[00:09:07] Mm-hmm. Yeah, just the themes

[00:09:12] Yeah, well, that's why it's a it's a story that which again

[00:09:15] This is modeled off of Romeo and Juliet

[00:09:16] But this one I think West Side Story kind of takes the Romeo and Juliet shell

[00:09:21] And turns it into a little bit more of a modern sense of like anti-hatred messaging. You still have the Star Cross lovers

[00:09:30] angle of it but

[00:09:32] You know and then they they

[00:09:35] Well in the in the first one they really do just make it about straight-up racism

[00:09:40] Yeah, and it's still it's still there in the new one

[00:09:42] But there's a little bit more to it

[00:09:44] Yeah, and it's one of the things that I like because they go out of their way to explain how and it's it's so very subtle

[00:09:51] when they show the racism in the police too, yep

[00:09:56] Because like they they definitely

[00:09:59] Don't like the Puerto Ricans being there but at the same time

[00:10:02] They don't like these delinquent kids running around and they make it a point to be like you're giving us a bad name

[00:10:08] He doesn't say that exactly, but he's talking about it's like, you know

[00:10:12] This neighborhood ain't even yours no more everybody that was worth a damn moved out, right?

[00:10:17] You know, but you're still here and they make it a point then they do make it a point to

[00:10:22] In the second one they make more of an effort to show that the jets are

[00:10:27] Not marginalized but forgotten there. They're they're ignored

[00:10:31] and

[00:10:32] You can kind of see how a bunch of kids with nothing to do and

[00:10:36] Nobody really paying attention to them. You can see how they got to where they are

[00:10:41] Maybe not all of them, but you can see how it happens

[00:10:44] And then you've got the influx of immigration that was happening

[00:10:47] In the 50s in New York at that time with you know Puerto Ricans coming in a lot of Puerto Ricans coming in

[00:10:52] And of course these dumb young dumb kids

[00:10:56] Are gonna be like they're invading because nobody they don't have anybody sensible to tell them it's like no this is like

[00:11:03] Right. Well, you're just who your jets pun intended, you know

[00:11:09] But then you can understand how the sharks formed because that was essentially

[00:11:14] That's essentially how gang started in the United States was immigrant groups coming in and in New York

[00:11:20] Actually, you had immigrant groups coming in and you just got a bunch of people that banded together

[00:11:25] And said okay. Well, the local police aren't gonna protect us and our people so we're gonna do it

[00:11:32] That's how you know gangs even started in the 1800s in New York, right?

[00:11:37] You totally understand how it happens

[00:11:41] and then

[00:11:43] Continuing on with that. I do want to talk talk a little I do want to talk a little bit about

[00:11:48] What happens to Anita?

[00:11:52] Mm-hmm. I do want to bring that up

[00:11:54] No, no and you do and it's a very

[00:11:58] To me that's the scene where I

[00:12:03] Have to word this carefully because I don't want to be misconstrued

[00:12:06] It's an it I'm glad the scene happens even though particularly in the new one. It's hard to watch

[00:12:13] It's it's rough to watch but it has to happen because that's the moment where the mirror gets held up to them

[00:12:19] Mm-hmm for for the jets. Yeah, that's when that's when the mirror gets held up to them and they're like

[00:12:25] Oh, we're pieces of shit too. Yeah

[00:12:28] And that's like when Rita Marino's characters like look at you all look at what you did to this poor woman

[00:12:35] Foreshame, you know what happened to Rita Marino in the original. So yeah, and that's why I was gonna bring up to it

[00:12:41] It happened because she was Anita or yeah

[00:12:46] Anita and they brought her into play the doc character, which I think they call her doc in the new one

[00:12:51] But she was she was married to him

[00:12:52] Which it's funny because I I haven't seen too many people say bad things about that

[00:12:56] But my whole thing was like I really don't care if Doc's a woman or not and it gets Rita Marino in the movie

[00:13:03] I'm all for it and she does good

[00:13:06] That's one fact though

[00:13:07] That's one of the only changes I would make to the new movie and I understand why they did it

[00:13:12] They wanted to give Rita Marino a musical number

[00:13:16] Doc is not supposed to sing

[00:13:18] Was it someday or somewhere? I can't remember the name of the song

[00:13:22] Somewhere. Yeah, somewhere somewhere

[00:13:25] That's supposed to be Tony and Maria. Yeah, I'm singing it actually doesn't make any sense. No

[00:13:32] That being so no that being said she did a good job and I love that song

[00:13:37] Yeah, I love that song, but it's supposed to be a duet with Tony and Maria. Yeah

[00:13:43] So that's really that's probably my biggest nitpick, but it doesn't ruin the movie for me because we still get it in the original

[00:13:49] so

[00:13:52] But yeah, what about that scene because I feel like you had a question

[00:13:56] Yeah, I was gonna say like

[00:14:00] Well, there wasn't really much of a question. It was more of a general understanding of like

[00:14:05] You know in that scene

[00:14:09] Anita gets assaulted. Yeah

[00:14:13] and

[00:14:14] And you were talking about like it being like kind of like a mirror being held up to all the jets

[00:14:21] mm-hmm and

[00:14:23] You know in today's society, I feel like

[00:14:27] That's also like today society too. Like, you know

[00:14:32] Someone needs to be held accountable

[00:14:36] like first things like that and

[00:14:41] I'm gonna try to speak to this because it's so interesting how my life happens sometimes

[00:14:48] Because and I'm not I'm not trying to toot my own horn here or anything like that

[00:14:53] But it's it's interesting that we're talking about this because this happened to me just yesterday

[00:14:56] Or the day before I think it was the day before but it happened this week

[00:15:00] So with my job, I will some sometimes I have to go out to people's houses and take measurements, right?

[00:15:07] While I was there it was just because we were doing a kitchen for a couple in their family and it was just

[00:15:13] It was just the wife that was there and so

[00:15:20] Like I would never I would never do anything like that to somebody

[00:15:23] But I can understand how my presence could come across or make somebody feel uncomfortable

[00:15:29] So I'm making a conscious effort to not get you know not be too close

[00:15:32] but at the same time not be like so far away that I'm being creepy and you know and

[00:15:38] Things like don't move too quickly if I have something to say like make sure that I get

[00:15:46] You know somebody's attention in a way that's not gonna like

[00:15:50] Make a wrong oppression or startle anyone and I was thinking afterwards

[00:15:54] I wasn't consciously doing that. I just realized I was doing it about midway through and I was like, huh

[00:15:59] That's very interesting

[00:16:01] And then your brain and then you're bringing this up

[00:16:03] I do think a lot of people are very clueless about that and that's one of the things where because I

[00:16:10] Mean you you know me

[00:16:12] Well enough now that I don't want to make anybody uncomfortable

[00:16:15] But at the same time you can sometimes you can be a bit oblivious. We all do it

[00:16:21] But I think there are a lot of people in society at large who are just really clueless

[00:16:27] Yeah, and they don't they don't understand how even their mere presence could potentially make someone feel uneasy and

[00:16:34] At the same time it's really

[00:16:37] I don't know. This is an interesting interesting perspective from you though

[00:16:40] So this is kind of a question for you

[00:16:41] Do you think that if like let's say somebody's just like really large and imposing and could very easily make people feel

[00:16:47] Uneasy if they don't know them right?

[00:16:50] Do you think they have a responsibility to kind of you know do what I did and kind of do their best to make themselves

[00:16:56] as

[00:16:59] Not intimidating what am I trying to say like send the non-verbal cues that hey, we're all good here

[00:17:05] Nothing bad's happening. I think yes because if you don't do that then that just gets people like the

[00:17:13] The thought in their head like oh, I can do whatever I want. I can do this

[00:17:17] I can do whatever I want to this person

[00:17:21] Yeah

[00:17:22] That's kind of where I'm at but I'm sure somebody at some point is gonna see this and be like oh, I can't believe you care that much

[00:17:28] It's like well

[00:17:30] you know

[00:17:33] Because things have happened in our society a very very unfortunate things

[00:17:40] You kind of have to be conscious of that I believe and then there's scenes like this

[00:17:46] They kind of put it out for all to see and bear and it is very uncomfortable

[00:17:52] I know it was very uncomfortable for me to watch but at the same time

[00:17:54] I'm like wow this is necessary because you have to understand the gravity of what's happening, right?

[00:18:02] so and there's lots of there's lots of scenes and lots of movies like that and

[00:18:07] Sort of my metric for those as to whether they're good or not is

[00:18:11] One is this essential to the plot and doesn't get to a point where it's gratuitous and this scene passes with flying colors

[00:18:18] Because yes after everything the jets have done up to that point

[00:18:23] It's been somewhat reciprocal or at least you can make the argument like well

[00:18:26] They jumped us so we jump them

[00:18:28] But that's the moment where you realize oh their piece is a shit

[00:18:33] Yep

[00:18:34] Yeah, and let's make and let's make no mistake the sharks probably wouldn't have been any better

[00:18:38] And I think that's the point but there was no story mechanism for the sharks to be in to be in the same room with any of

[00:18:45] Like the jet scrolls

[00:18:47] So Anita was the plot care of the character in the plot that could actually be there at that time, right?

[00:18:54] Like like there's no plot line for where like Maria would have been been alone with like

[00:19:01] The others you know I mean I mean there could have been but it wouldn't you would have had to rewrite basically the entire story so

[00:19:09] Right, right

[00:19:11] Yeah, but what I mean is like

[00:19:13] Like riffs girlfriend would never have been alone with the sharks there would have been no reason to

[00:19:20] That's what I'm getting at

[00:19:23] Speaking of riffs though cannot can we talk about the fact that like Mike fast who played a

[00:19:30] Connor and in Dear Evan Hansen the the musical plays

[00:19:37] And

[00:19:38] Absolutely killed it. Oh

[00:19:40] He killed I mean kill you know what you know what though and I mean trust me

[00:19:45] I'm not a dancer so I cannot cut up anybody's dancing. I'm a big fan of

[00:19:50] The original riff what was it hang on again? Oh Russ Tamplin

[00:19:54] I like his dancing more but holy crap the acting in the new one

[00:20:01] Or for riffs specifically which let's be okay

[00:20:04] I have to say something but there's a caveat the acting is way better in the newer version

[00:20:09] But that it's a different kind of acting

[00:20:12] So I'm not cutting up the original they were essentially doing a stage play that was recorded right whereas this movie because of you know

[00:20:20] The decisions they were making with camera movements and whatnot. It was a much more intimate

[00:20:25] kind of

[00:20:25] Kind of like the temporary movie so the actors performances could be a lot more dynamic and

[00:20:32] Wow, but riff in particular though

[00:20:36] I remember when I first and when he first came on screen a screen

[00:20:39] I was kind of like I don't know about this but then he started talking and I was like oh

[00:20:44] This this guys he gets it he gets riff

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[00:22:22] and then there's the

[00:22:25] Character which I don't think in and in the other movie in the ritual movie

[00:22:30] they gave her a name the

[00:22:37] Girl oh

[00:22:38] My god, it riffs riffs girlfriend. No

[00:22:42] The girl in the jets

[00:22:45] There's a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's riffs girlfriend

[00:22:48] Um, they did they did and they mentioned it in the first one and I cannot remember it though

[00:22:56] For the life of me and I feel bad about that but yeah

[00:22:59] She does get a lot more for everybody gets more fleshed out in the new version though like let's be real

[00:23:04] Is it like in the new version like?

[00:23:08] Yeah, she was Tony's ex. She was Tony. Yeah, she's Tony's ex. Yeah, and they acknowledge it

[00:23:14] In the new version and Tony even says like hey, it's all good

[00:23:18] You know and that's the other thing Tony is way, but I love

[00:23:23] Tony's character much more in the new movie because

[00:23:28] He has a reason because in the first one he kind of comes across as a goody two shoes whereas in this one

[00:23:33] You understand why he doesn't want to find outside of Maria

[00:23:37] You understand why he doesn't want to fight at all because they go into the backstory. He almost killed somebody

[00:23:43] Right and then went to went to Juvie for it, you know, right and I just I just looked it up

[00:23:52] There the their name is Iris

[00:23:55] Menace and their character's name is

[00:23:58] Anybody's that's what they called it anybody's I

[00:24:03] Thought anybody's was the tomboy that was running around wasn't yeah. Oh

[00:24:09] That's not riffs girlfriend. That's no, that's oh, okay. Okay

[00:24:15] We're talking about two different people. Yeah, we are I was like wait a minute. No

[00:24:19] Because I said yes and then after said yes, I was like wait wait. No, okay. Yeah, um

[00:24:25] hmm

[00:24:27] interesting

[00:24:27] And that's like the first trans character in

[00:24:33] Something like that. What's what's she trans? Yeah, they were they ever yeah, did they ever explicitly say that?

[00:24:42] Hmm, I don't know

[00:24:44] Not in the first one the first one. She was just a tomboy but yeah, no, but in the newer one

[00:24:51] their trans

[00:24:53] Go by they them and do they really I didn't notice that yeah

[00:25:00] Huh, I don't wish if that was intentional. I kind of wish they had been more explicit with it. Mm-hmm. Oh

[00:25:07] No, I did not notice that but yeah, I don't know I kind of the character certainly more enjoyable in the first movie

[00:25:15] Because buddy, but she's also played in the first movie. She's played more as a joke

[00:25:19] So I get it but but there is a moment in both of them

[00:25:24] But I think I think it's a little bit sweeter in the first one where

[00:25:28] You know, it's anybody's right. Yep. Yeah, anybody's brings the information to

[00:25:35] You know the new Jets leader after spoiler alert riff gets stabbed

[00:25:39] and she

[00:25:42] She brings it to him and then he looks at her and goes hey, you done good buddy boy

[00:25:47] You know like that's an acknowledgement of respect. Yeah, you know, it's a little bit sweeter

[00:25:52] It happens in the new version too, but it's a little bit

[00:25:55] It's a little bit sweeter. I think in the original

[00:25:57] Hmm

[00:26:00] But like certainly back to because when because we were talking about the

[00:26:06] The assault that I need a head and everything and then the most chilling line

[00:26:13] Afflict of our are in the both after it happens after she leaves and she stops

[00:26:18] She's like you tell Tony that

[00:26:21] Maria is dead or something like that

[00:26:24] Yeah, and it weighs pretty heavy in both versions but in the new one I mean and

[00:26:31] Shout out though and I apologize to all the wonderful actors, but when I get on

[00:26:38] When I get on a podcast I lose all memory functions. So oh you just said her name to Ariana de Boz

[00:26:44] Kills it as Anita

[00:26:47] absolutely kills it

[00:26:49] America funny that song America

[00:26:53] Killed it killed it

[00:26:55] I go back and forth on this. I

[00:26:58] Like the performance a little bit the song to me comes across as a little bit funnier in the first

[00:27:04] Yeah, yeah, but you can't deny the scale and the dancing of the new movie is oh my god

[00:27:10] It's so great. Yeah, it's so much fun

[00:27:13] yeah

[00:27:15] and

[00:27:15] The other thing that the the new movie does is you really get a broader sense of the Puerto Rican community

[00:27:21] As opposed to just the kind of insular world world of the sharks

[00:27:25] But yeah, so that dance number just in the streets and everything that's so much fun

[00:27:30] We're like he wants to go back but like she wants to stay in America

[00:27:36] Would you get that sense in the original too? I'm referring to the dance. I'm referring to the dance

[00:27:40] But god, it's hilarious

[00:27:42] And

[00:27:44] My very much my favorite of all time in that song is this like he's trying to convince her to be like

[00:27:50] Okay, yeah, let's just go back and she's just not having it. She's like no

[00:27:56] But I do I just love the back and forth that song is so witty and I just love the back and forth

[00:28:01] It's like I have my own washing machine. What will you have though to keep please?

[00:28:05] it's like

[00:28:08] The the funny thing is I was thinking about this song does a couple weeks ago

[00:28:13] I actually went on a cruise and one of the stops was San Juan Puerto Rico. Yeah, and so I'm sitting there

[00:28:18] I'm just like humming America in my head and I'm like that's so funny. I

[00:28:24] Think I actually said it's like I could go back to San Juan

[00:28:27] And then like her line, I know what boat you can get on get on like I do too. In fact, I got to get back there

[00:28:33] They'll leave me. I

[00:28:35] Understand the beginning of that song now too because San Juan is hot as fuck

[00:28:40] Is it it's so hot that which I mean I went in July. So yeah, but like oh so hot

[00:28:48] It's the kind of hot where you walk outside and sweat like it was it was warm

[00:28:54] It was warm loved it. It was pretty cool of what I saw of it, but yeah

[00:28:59] Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I'd like to go back. I'd like to go back to San Juan as well

[00:29:06] But I don't think anyone there will give big cheers when I get off that boat

[00:29:11] Me like who the fuck are you?

[00:29:14] Some shit

[00:29:17] Feel like what the fuck are you why are you here? Get get back on the boat go another tourist another tourist

[00:29:26] Actually, I have to I have to I have to share this didn't happen so much in Puerto Rico

[00:29:30] But we did happen then Dominican Republic. So my nephew is actually half Puerto Rican

[00:29:35] Doesn't speak a word of Spanish though

[00:29:38] but I do

[00:29:41] We're in the Dominican Republic because a lot of people in Puerto Rico speak English too where we were because it's

[00:29:47] It's where all the cruise ship stock but and Dominican Republic

[00:29:51] Like they all speak English too, but they were a little bit more

[00:29:54] Apps to speak Spanish if you start the conversation and they'll they'll start the conversation in Spanish with him

[00:30:00] Though because he looks very his span like he's very brown

[00:30:03] so everybody just assumes in the Dominican Republic that he spoke Spanish and then they say they

[00:30:11] You know say basic greetings to him and he just kind of stare at him and not know what to do

[00:30:16] And then I would come in the whitest dude on planet Earth

[00:30:21] Yeah, and start speaking Spanish and explain like he doesn't speak Spanish and then this

[00:30:28] Happened many times and then there was a there was another hilarious moment

[00:30:36] Where oh god these two girls in one shop are just ragging on him so bad because they're like you need to learn Spanish

[00:30:42] And I'm like Andy needs to learn how to dance and they're like yeah, you need to learn how to dance too

[00:30:49] He's just like can we go now?

[00:30:51] But then we were in we were in another shop too, and we were looking at these shirts

[00:30:55] Because we learned the hard way that you want a

[00:30:58] Sort of breezy shirt in these climates

[00:31:01] So we were like we should probably buy some of these if we're gonna be going out onto these islands, right?

[00:31:07] so the girl in the shop was helping us and

[00:31:10] She spoke English, so we're having the conversation completely in English except my nephew then says I had my eye on that one

[00:31:17] And the look on her face

[00:31:19] She was just so confused and then I said I said oh dude you can't say that to her because like yeah

[00:31:24] She speaks English, but these turns of phrase that you like to use

[00:31:28] Like she understands the words but to her they make no sense. She's like what do you mean your eyes on it?

[00:31:34] So that I had to explain and I just turned her in Spanish. I said he likes the blue

[00:31:43] It's funny though because people don't think about that no they really know like even me a

[00:31:48] Lot of times when I'm speaking Spanish, and I want to say something

[00:31:51] I'm like oh, I can't say it that way though because that's gonna sound stupid

[00:31:55] Like it's not gonna translate properly like the words are there

[00:31:58] But you can't say it that way because it's not gonna compute the way it does in in English

[00:32:04] Because what did I say? I said the other day. I tried to say you can't I can't outwork stupid

[00:32:11] Doesn't translate well doesn't translate well at all

[00:32:18] Which it kind of stinks because there's a lot of really good turns of phrase in English that just don't translate and the sound

[00:32:23] They like don't translate to Spanish, but they sound super boring. Yeah

[00:32:28] And very like matter of fact and then there's turns of phrase in Spanish that just make no sense whatsoever

[00:32:33] And you're like that

[00:32:35] Like I know the words but that still doesn't make sense. No, they're like, I don't know we just say it and I'm like well

[00:32:40] It it doesn't make sense

[00:32:44] Yeah fun fun fact maybe that's I

[00:32:47] Was gonna say maybe that's why the sharks and jets don't understand each other

[00:32:49] But the sharks all speak English so whatever yeah, oh

[00:32:56] anyway

[00:32:58] That's hilarious. That's hilarious. It's it's truly funny. I love dropping my Spanish on unsuspecting people though

[00:33:05] I

[00:33:05] Love that I love the looks I get when because I do get client

[00:33:08] Customers and clients from time to time that Spanish is their first language and they may not have like a super perfect grasp of English

[00:33:16] So there some if I can tell they're struggling all bust out the

[00:33:20] Spanish with them and then the look of surprise and simultaneous relief on their faces

[00:33:25] I just I love it. It's priceless

[00:33:28] Like what is this white man doing speaking Spanish? I get that a lot. I do get that a lot

[00:33:35] They're like, why did you learn Spanish and I'm like well, I speak French too

[00:33:38] They speak French in German too. I mean there's just they're all right there together

[00:33:47] That's funny that's hilarious I

[00:33:52] Love it. I just actually just watched the clip of from I love Lucy where they're in France and

[00:33:57] Lucy accidentally pays tries to pay with counterfeit money. So they're at the police station

[00:34:03] but

[00:34:04] The main cop only speaks French. I'm sorry the main cops speak French and German the other cop speaks German and Spanish

[00:34:11] They have a guy in the drunk tank that speaks

[00:34:13] German and Spanish and they translate it from French to German to German to Spanish to Spanish

[00:34:20] Spanish and then Ricky translates it to English. It's a great bit. It's so funny

[00:34:26] Especially especially when you speak enough of the three languages that they're using that you can discern and know what they're saying and you're like

[00:34:33] Oh, yeah, that's legit. Like that's actually yeah, that's how you would say that

[00:34:38] It's it's I have to look that up later because I need to watch I can I can send it to you was on TikTok

[00:34:44] Yeah, okay. It's so so funny so funny. Oh my gosh. It sounds hilarious. It's I love I love Lucy

[00:34:54] Doesn't like seriously if you don't like I love Lucy, what are you even doing with your life?

[00:35:00] It's in the name like you love Lucy or get the fuck out

[00:35:05] Or hit the door

[00:35:08] Don't let it hit you on the way out. You're not welcome here

[00:35:14] You're good you're leaving and I'm walking the door behind you get out

[00:35:26] So we talked about

[00:35:27] The assault we talked about Anita

[00:35:31] We've talked about her greatest performance ever as

[00:35:35] as

[00:35:36] We talked about our end of most is

[00:35:39] Amazing performances Anita because she's amazing. What's the scene where she starts?

[00:35:45] There's a scene where she's visibly crying and again not because I love Rita Moreno

[00:35:50] I love Rita Moreno. We do but at that time you can't really you couldn't show tears the same way

[00:35:56] like on on just on film so I'm not cutting up her performance, but

[00:36:02] Ariana de Bo there's a scene in that movie where she's

[00:36:05] She's crying and it's just like damn that's such good acting

[00:36:11] Because it's not just crying. It's it's simultaneous

[00:36:16] It's simultaneous like not even sadness just straight up grief

[00:36:22] And rage at the same time. Yeah, and that doesn't seem like it's hard to do but

[00:36:28] It's very hard to do. Yeah and convey that. Yeah, and just bravo didn't she win

[00:36:34] She won an award of some kind. Yeah. Yeah. She she won um a

[00:36:40] Golden Globe

[00:36:40] That's right for supporting actors. Yes. Yep. Yep

[00:36:45] Well deserved. Yeah, I

[00:36:48] Also just love the new one that everybody does their own singing and dancing

[00:36:52] Which I mean every day everybody did their own dancing and the first one but

[00:36:56] Virtually nobody did their own singing and it's just like just hire people that can sing and dance there everywhere

[00:37:01] Right and I Andrew Garfield won

[00:37:06] Also won for to tick boom

[00:37:10] Yeah, I need to watch that because I've here it's amazing. It's amazing. You need to watch it. I've heard yes

[00:37:15] I've heard

[00:37:16] It's got to be better than Hamilton still to see you for a really sorry. I'm sorry

[00:37:23] They didn't ruin it

[00:37:26] Rwanda ruined it

[00:37:28] Well, I didn't catch it until you met you did and then I thought about it and I pissed

[00:37:33] Don't you matter me? I didn't write it

[00:37:42] CDC Collegium music up is a 501 C3

[00:37:46] Non-profit organization

[00:37:48] it is a kind of school of music a concert series and

[00:37:54] an agency that promotes the musicians

[00:37:57] Dedicated artists and educators who we feature as our performers

[00:38:04] The goal of the Collegium is to bring community together

[00:38:09] through music performance

[00:38:12] These performances vary in musical style from classical to jazz and music from different parts of the world

[00:38:19] From India to the Middle East

[00:38:22] That be like Persia and Japan and China

[00:38:27] the the goal is to also educate us to how music functions not so much as a

[00:38:37] Musical universal language because there are differences in the way that these languages of music

[00:38:44] Are expressed but to educate us to be able to be more appreciative not only of the music

[00:38:52] But the culture it represents

[00:38:55] And by doing this it brings community

[00:38:59] Together

[00:39:21] For those of you who don't know what we're talking about so Lin-Manuel Miranda the talentless hack that he is

[00:39:27] in the first at the end of the first musical number that introduces the whole concept of the play and

[00:39:34] side note like

[00:39:36] I'm a history nerd. So I know what happens to Alexander Hamilton

[00:39:40] But my biggest critique of storytelling is when the writer or whoever is crafting the story assumes

[00:39:49] That the audience knows you can't do that. You have to assume that you have to

[00:39:53] Craft the story as though your audience knows nothing about what you're talking about because you have to go with the lowest common denominator

[00:40:02] Meaning that you have to assume that people don't know who Alexander Hamilton is if you're gonna tell a story about his life

[00:40:07] Right and when you in the first musical number with Aaron Burr coming out mid-stage and going in I'm the damn fool who shot him

[00:40:15] You know what you know what happens now?

[00:40:19] And it's not like it doesn't mean it's not still not good

[00:40:24] It's not good though. I don't I don't I don't like Hamilton. I didn't care for it at all

[00:40:29] I just I I don't like it men men mo Miranda's

[00:40:33] Musical style I don't like the white rapping. I don't like the

[00:40:39] The only thing I don't like about the man

[00:40:42] When when men all Miranda it was the fucking stupidest song in a little mermaid. Why did you make Scuttlebutt?

[00:40:51] I just I don't I don't like his style. I don't like it at all

[00:40:56] I've seen musical I've seen some of the musical numbers from in the heights and

[00:41:01] There's a cadence that he has that he tries to make it sound

[00:41:07] What's the word I'm looking for he tries to make it sound like musically brilliant, but it's not it's just a

[00:41:17] It's super basic and elementary and

[00:41:21] Yet some people are like oh it's so brilliant. I'm like no it's not it's it's not

[00:41:27] It's it's not good. It's bad

[00:41:31] It's basic and I don't like it

[00:41:33] Agree to disagree, but okay

[00:41:38] Well, okay, even even in in Kanto the song that everybody loved um what it what's the name of that Luisa song? Oh surface pressure

[00:41:46] Yes

[00:41:48] It's such a basic song

[00:41:50] And I don't I don't like it. I don't like in Kanto anyways though

[00:41:57] Really I okay, so here's the thing about in Kanto like we're now we're gonna really diverge

[00:42:01] I think in Kanto was a really cute movie

[00:42:05] It just wasn't a great Disney movie

[00:42:08] Um

[00:42:10] They're adding in

[00:42:12] In like the tropical there they're adding something called the tropical America's at Disney World and

[00:42:19] In Kanto's gonna be there

[00:42:22] See that I can see being a good hit. I really can my problem with incanto isn't because I

[00:42:29] Don't think any of the musical numbers were particularly stellar. I know that we don't talk about Bruno is catchy, but

[00:42:36] It's an exposition song and that you know what that's what I don't like about Lin-Manuel Miranda

[00:42:40] he does a lot of musical exposition and

[00:42:44] There's a good way to do it in a bad way to do it because I praised other

[00:42:49] I've praised other people who do musical exposition well because it is a very good way to give an audience exposition

[00:42:56] It's just for me Miranda is usually so on the nose about it. Whereas with you know, like the legends

[00:43:02] Oh God, I'm Nick Mankin and

[00:43:07] The duo at Disney during the Renaissance Alan Mankin and the other guy

[00:43:14] Anyway, you guys know who I'm talking about

[00:43:18] Their musical exposition was like witty and metaphorical and

[00:43:24] It made it made the whole experience enjoyable while giving you information

[00:43:28] And I'm sorry, can we please just sing the praises of the lyrics max laryngitis in the little murmur

[00:43:35] Which I totally didn't catch till I was like 33

[00:43:40] I didn't catch it till like I saw the life action. I'm like, oh shit. Oh, it's there in the original. It's there

[00:43:48] Or so like that's kind of the the two highlights

[00:43:51] I can give you is poor unfortunate souls

[00:43:54] Versus we don't talk about Bruno

[00:43:58] Those are my two like epitomies of what I'm talking about right here

[00:44:04] Because poor unfortunate souls is a funny song where Ursula is like totally trying to dupe Ariel and it's obvious to us

[00:44:11] That she is but she's doing it in a way that's not super clean cut

[00:44:15] Like it's all in the visuals and everything too and just in incanto. It's all just so literal

[00:44:23] Okay, and not to get off topic

[00:44:27] Still and I'm sorry guys, but I need to point out did did you know that

[00:44:33] Ursula's based off of the direct drag queen. I did learn that at one point. I I can't remember

[00:44:40] The name but yes, and I mean when I when I read that I was like, oh totally

[00:44:45] I see it I see it

[00:44:49] Yeah, I totally see that that makes one

[00:44:51] I mean, I mean you can't dispute it because the animators who did it are on record

[00:44:57] Yeah, that's saying yeah, we were inspired by this person. I mean you can't really argue that point

[00:45:03] But yeah, yeah, so enough bashing Lin-Manuel Miranda

[00:45:12] Okay, but hit one last thing is I'm gonna say and then we can stop stop with the Lin-Man

[00:45:18] Miranda talk

[00:45:19] Um

[00:45:22] He is

[00:45:24] directoral debut in Tic-Tac Boom

[00:45:27] He directed that movie so well, but he directed it. Yeah, he directed it

[00:45:36] No, we'll see

[00:45:38] Because I just like him musically I haven't at least I haven't knowingly seen his directors where I know when Hamilton

[00:45:44] But he was that's he did the whole thing. So yeah

[00:45:48] Um, yeah, I'll have to check it out because I hear very good things. Yeah, it's it's really really really really good

[00:45:56] Hey mediocre actors become great directors all the time

[00:45:59] so like

[00:46:00] There's like a scene where they have like every single like actor on Broadway in one scene

[00:46:07] as different things in the movie and I'm like

[00:46:11] yay

[00:46:13] That's pretty cool because when when that movie

[00:46:16] You know when that movie came out on Netflix I

[00:46:21] It was still the man like Broadway you're still shut down

[00:46:24] So just to be able to see everybody that that's on Broadway in one

[00:46:29] scene like I'm so happy

[00:46:34] It's it's funny because it's whenever I have a conversation and frankly whenever I watch your show

[00:46:38] I always have the same thought where it's like I gotta start watching more

[00:46:41] I gotta start watching more plays like going to see more plays because I miss it

[00:46:46] It's been it's been a while and it's interesting though because West Side Story is the reason I got into musical theater in the first place

[00:46:55] It's it's it's a it's a kind of a silly story

[00:46:58] but

[00:46:59] That's that's why West Side Story is my favorite musical because it holds a very special special place in my heart because

[00:47:05] Had seen West Side Story before it was kind of like when I was in you know

[00:47:09] Great school middle school was kind of the de facto movie they would put on if there was a substitute

[00:47:14] Yeah, so I'd seen particularly in music classes, but even outside of them

[00:47:18] Like I do there was one point where I was in like an English class. I'm like why are we watching West Side Story?

[00:47:24] Right quick in elementary school. This seems a little like and start pulling knives out that seems a little inappropriate, but

[00:47:32] Movie for like seven-year-old

[00:47:34] I don't know that yeah, I mean it's I mean it's not particularly bad

[00:47:38] But at the same time I kind of think this is this might be going over our heads of smidge

[00:47:43] Yeah, but there was one time and it was in middle school

[00:47:46] I think I was about I was 13 13 or 14 and

[00:47:50] They put it on in band because our teacher was gone and I don't know what it was for some reason

[00:47:55] It just clicked in my brain. I was like oh, this is amazing

[00:48:00] and I fully appreciated

[00:48:03] Everything about it the story the music behind it how the musical see how the musical numbers integrated into the story

[00:48:11] because up to that point it was kind of and I and this is a

[00:48:16] Symptom of the time that I was living in it wasn't you boys liking musicals meant you were gay and like it was lame and

[00:48:23] You know, you can't be caught dead liking musical theater because you know

[00:48:28] That's not it wasn't a cool thing to do even though I was a raging nerd

[00:48:33] So it would have made complete sense. But anyway back to my main point

[00:48:39] And at that point I really was like I actually turned to a buddy of mine

[00:48:43] I was like this is really good and he's just like we've seen this like eight times. What's up, King?

[00:48:49] I don't know what clicked. I literally something just clicked in my head

[00:48:52] Maybe I'd finally just matured a little bit and was able to appreciate it but from then on

[00:48:57] I got I got really into I was always aware of Broadway

[00:49:01] But it wasn't something that I was like interested in which my mother was thrilled when I was like, hey, I like Broadway now

[00:49:07] but

[00:49:08] so that was right around the time that

[00:49:12] Rent was having a bit of a resurgence. It was about a year before the movie had come out

[00:49:18] So what would then when did that come out that came out 2005?

[00:49:21] I'm not mistaken. Yep. Okay, so no it was a little bit before that but this was

[00:49:26] shortly before

[00:49:28] Like wicked was first coming out and rent was having a bit of a resurgence and like I had friends that listened to Avenue Q

[00:49:35] Which oh my god?

[00:49:38] Hilarious

[00:49:40] And then just various other shows, you know take your pick

[00:49:44] I got really into a few not that long ago

[00:49:47] I got really into seeing like Disney musicals on stage because they're amazing

[00:49:52] Yeah, like I hate be our guests in the movie. I love be our guests on stage. Yeah, uh, they're

[00:50:01] I think in 2025 adding frozen on Broadway to Disney Plus

[00:50:06] Who really yep? Oh

[00:50:09] Yeah, I'd like to see that live but

[00:50:12] And I

[00:50:13] You know what's funny? I say that but now that I think about it

[00:50:16] I was surrounded when I was growing up. I was surrounded by musicals

[00:50:20] But I guess I just didn't click because my one of my mother's favorite movies was Mary Poppins and to this day

[00:50:26] I hate Mary Poppins. I can't stand Mary Poppins

[00:50:29] Probably because I was forced to watch it a lot as a kid

[00:50:31] But like do you remember you you might you might be too young for this there was a

[00:50:36] Um

[00:50:38] They it wasn't Broadway though

[00:50:40] I'm trying to remember they did like a VHS release of a stage production of Peter Pan starring Mary Margaret

[00:50:47] And I had that

[00:50:49] I had that on VHS when I was growing up

[00:50:52] So I would like simultaneously watch that and the Disney version

[00:50:55] And I loved watching that when I was a kid and that's actually how I went

[00:50:58] I learned at a very young age that it was a tradition for Peter Pan to be played by a woman on stage

[00:51:04] Because of that VHS

[00:51:06] So I was like, yeah, I say that and then I'd seen the sound of music and the king and I and all those and shitty shitty bang bang

[00:51:12] And all you know the the musicals, right?

[00:51:16] I love to shoot bang bang, but I also hate it and I tell I'll tell you why

[00:51:22] That's kind of how you're supposed to feel

[00:51:27] The child snatchers scares scared the living shit of me as a kid

[00:51:32] That's I actually I need to watch it again. It's been a while since I've seen shitty shitty bang bang. Um

[00:51:38] I imagine there's probably gonna be a lot of a few eyebrow raising moments when I've watched that movie again. Um

[00:51:47] Yeah, that that whole bit but I remember what you're talking about that's yeah that I think that makes anybody uncomfortable

[00:51:54] This made me uncomfortable

[00:51:55] I was an as a kid seeing children being snatched by a child standard that has frightened me

[00:52:03] Well, and the thing is it's like when you're when you're a jaded adult that has all sorts of other implications

[00:52:08] But even at it's like most it's your sense. Like you said it's still children being snatched

[00:52:14] Yeah, like it's never gonna be good

[00:52:18] No

[00:52:20] It's just bad vibes all around

[00:52:22] Um, but yeah, so but anyway, oh go ahead. I was like what dick van dyke in that movie is fucking hilarious

[00:52:29] Love love dick van dyke

[00:52:31] Love dick van dyke. I god. He's a national treasure. He's he's so high right? Yes. He's still alive. Okay. God

[00:52:38] No, I didn't

[00:52:40] Yeah, I didn't I didn't want to say something bad

[00:52:42] I didn't want to say like oh, it's gonna be a shame when we lose him and then you feel like he's dead and like

[00:52:46] damn it

[00:52:48] Did I have one

[00:52:51] But yeah, no we all love uh, who doesn't love dick van dyke

[00:52:56] Like seriously people that don't love musical theater

[00:52:59] Well, they can

[00:53:00] I even like him at night at the museum though

[00:53:03] He's hilarious in that movie. Oh, he's a lucky tonight

[00:53:06] Oh, he's

[00:53:09] Oh, yeah, he was teddy rosa bell. Listen. Yeah

[00:53:12] I was the first was second of like was robin williams in that movie. I'm like, oh, yes. Yes. He was

[00:53:16] I love night at the museum. There's it's uh

[00:53:19] I like all of them and it's like listen. I know that they're popcorn garbage, but I love it

[00:53:26] And his like last scene in the night of the museum was like

[00:53:32] The day before he died

[00:53:35] And that's what makes it even sadder look back on

[00:53:40] Wow, thanks for bringing it down. I'm sorry. I had to

[00:53:49] Those were his yeah, I just really sad because those were his last lines and I'm like

[00:54:01] well, um

[00:54:02] When do we go from here? So yeah, toni gets shot in the end

[00:54:10] I knew that you're gonna do that. I love that. I love you for that. Oh my god

[00:54:15] So, yeah, toni gets shot at the end. You know, they kill old yellow too

[00:54:22] Just so you know since we're just gonna go down really dark and depressing path

[00:54:28] We're gonna just go down a dark dark dark path

[00:54:31] Yeah, yeah

[00:54:33] um

[00:54:34] But yeah, so the point of that really

[00:54:37] Long and drawn out story is that west side story is the reason

[00:54:40] I kind of fell in love with musical theater or at least it was the spark that made me realize it because I probably really liked it all along

[00:54:47] but unfortunately when you're young

[00:54:50] peer pressure is a little bit stronger and then

[00:54:52] Certainly by the time you're 30, you really don't give a shit anymore

[00:54:56] Right. You're just like you're just like I like what I like and if you don't like it then well

[00:55:01] I mean you can you can go do your thing, but me personally

[00:55:04] I'm really scared about wicked

[00:55:10] Okay, so I'm gonna bring it back to west side story

[00:55:13] But we'll we'll pivot into it. Trust me because there's a there's a thing we're gonna there's a path

[00:55:18] We're gonna go down. Okay

[00:55:20] I don't think there's ever been anybody quite like rachel zeigler in so far as when I first saw them

[00:55:27] I really really liked them and then just as time progressed

[00:55:32] I'm just like wow, I really don't like you to the point where now I have negative feelings when I watched the new movie

[00:55:40] in

[00:55:42] Rachel zeigler was I still liked I think she okay. She did

[00:55:45] Great job as maria

[00:55:47] Yeah, but she's she said some things

[00:55:50] That I now cannot separate from her

[00:55:54] And I know what you're talking about. You're talking about the snow. I went yeah, so we're gonna talk about the giant CGI elephant in the room. Um

[00:56:04] Wow, I just

[00:56:08] When I saw that trailer

[00:56:13] I'm trying to put it correctly into words

[00:56:16] For something that was so bright and colorful. There's no soul in it whatsoever

[00:56:22] Everything felt so fake

[00:56:24] Which says a lot when the original was literal animation

[00:56:28] Yeah, but this thing just feels so hollow and empty and that's what I felt the same thing when I saw the wicked trailer

[00:56:36] To me it seems so I hope i'm wrong. I want to preface this by saying I hope i'm dead wrong

[00:56:42] I hope it's amazing. I just don't think it will be because when I saw that trailer

[00:56:47] It just it just seems so

[00:56:51] Overproduced overly CGI and soulless

[00:56:55] And I did also notice

[00:56:58] I hope i'm wrong. I don't know why I like lapsed into a trump manor's room right there. I'm like, I hope i'm wrong

[00:57:06] Okay, I had to like do the truck right now. It was like I noticed

[00:57:10] Why is she green? I don't get it

[00:57:13] But um, I didn't notice

[00:57:17] And I will admit iDena Menzel was very hard act to follow. I get it. Yeah, I heard

[00:57:23] I heard the bit the the bit in the trailer where she's doing defying gravity

[00:57:30] I don't think it's up to snuff

[00:57:33] How dare you I hope i'm wrong. I hope i'm wrong

[00:57:38] I do I hope i'm wrong but

[00:57:41] um

[00:57:42] I do really like Ariana grande is i love our anagrande is glinda

[00:57:47] I think that's perfect casting and I don't even I don't even know the actress

[00:57:52] Uh who they got for alphabud

[00:57:54] Cynthia or ribo she was in the color purple on broadway

[00:57:59] That's right. Oh no on broadway not in the movie. None the movie

[00:58:03] uh, okay, I I'm not

[00:58:05] At least I'm not knowing I'm not consciously familiar with her

[00:58:08] So I I can't speak to her work per se, but

[00:58:13] I mean, I hope it's good because I love wicked. I've actually seen wicked on it was touring broadway, but still

[00:58:20] I count it um, and I have a I still have actually I have a bootleg of the original broadway

[00:58:27] So some asshole brought a camera and into a broadway theater and recorded the whole thing

[00:58:33] Honestly sounds amazing considering it would have been like 2000

[00:58:36] And

[00:58:39] God when was that was that 2004 2005?

[00:58:42] Yeah, that's okay that that jobs because I got it in 2006, but it was it was a little while

[00:58:48] um

[00:58:51] Well, I mean

[00:58:54] Speaking of bootlegs though like

[00:58:55] I have a bootleg of jagged little pill so there's like no cause for like

[00:59:03] for like

[00:59:06] Being skeptical about it because it's like bootlegs should exist. Okay bootlegs bring people

[00:59:18] Theater to their homes and I feel like bootlegs bring the actual productions more money because

[00:59:29] A person a person would see a bootleg and be like, oh, I kind of go see this life

[00:59:34] And then they'll buy tickets to go see it live

[00:59:38] Theoretically and then plus I I'll be real with you. I think

[00:59:42] Well, disney does do it right disney has stage plays on disney plus

[00:59:46] Correct or they is it something that they've been doing or starting to do

[00:59:51] They's since they did handleton. They've been starting to do that

[00:59:55] And I'm fine with that and I was so psyched it was I can't remember what year this was but abc

[00:59:59] And they killed it because they made stupid decisions

[01:00:03] Um, abc was bringing back their televised stage plays

[01:00:08] But they screwed up they they were trying to shoot it

[01:00:13] Like a movie and it's like no shoot it like a stage play

[01:00:16] You can have some close and medium shots, but like you can't do moving camera work

[01:00:21] You got to shoot it like a stage play

[01:00:23] It's both easier and cheaper and it doesn't ruin the aesthetic of the performance because at the end of the day

[01:00:27] You're shooting a stage play and I remember I was so excited. They were doing peter pan

[01:00:33] And I was like because I love peter pan on stage peter pan is such a fun play

[01:00:38] I will say though. I will say though the um

[01:00:41] live at the uh

[01:00:43] What the it was like on NBC like

[01:00:46] Where in like in december they do like the live action like the live. Oh, did they still do it?

[01:00:52] They they yeah

[01:00:54] Because that's what i'm talking about. Yeah, because last year they they did any

[01:00:59] Oh, did they still shoot it poorly though?

[01:01:02] Yeah

[01:01:03] I just

[01:01:06] Hmm, I wish they would stop just shoot it like a play less is more sometimes

[01:01:11] Like like the live uh

[01:01:13] The live versions of like those like

[01:01:17] Famous Broadway shows and they did pier pan a couple years ago

[01:01:20] Which would which I know that you were gonna bring it up

[01:01:26] Yeah, because it was was it that was the one where allison williams started peter pan right? Yeah, that's the one i'm talking about

[01:01:32] Yeah, oh it was terrible. It was awful. It was awful

[01:01:36] Yeah, it was every second of it. I was like can this be over? I turned it off

[01:01:41] Yeah, yeah, I could I could not I could not do this. I it was just like, uh, it's it's that's unfortunate

[01:01:47] I mean, helisin was really good shirt. She's a good voice but like

[01:01:52] Other than that it was garbage

[01:01:55] It was it was how it was shot. I just I I couldn't do it. It was

[01:02:00] It was just so bad that I couldn't even give attention to the performances because it was just like

[01:02:06] No

[01:02:08] right, right

[01:02:09] And see that's kind of and that's kind of how I had concerns

[01:02:13] But I was I was comfortable with steven spielberg being at the at the helm

[01:02:18] Because again, you can shoot it like a movie if it's a movie, but if you're still on a stage it just doesn't compute

[01:02:23] um

[01:02:27] Wow completely random, but I still need to see le miserab on on stage. I really want to see it

[01:02:33] Yeah, we have the coming up

[01:02:35] That's touring and it's coming here. It's coming

[01:02:38] to

[01:02:39] East lansing in like a couple

[01:02:43] months

[01:02:44] Really?

[01:02:47] And I'm gonna get tickets for that. Oh, that's much further away than I thought it was

[01:03:00] What do you think?

[01:03:04] We're not gonna talk about it

[01:03:07] It's uh, it's quite a bit further than I thought it was

[01:03:11] I thought it was like two hours away. It's more like four. Oh, geez

[01:03:15] That's still not that's still not terrible, but mine's like an hour

[01:03:24] Oh

[01:03:28] Oh, but yes, yes, um, there was something I want I'm now drawing up also the rachel zeigler of it all

[01:03:34] Yep

[01:03:35] um, and then see okay

[01:03:37] Maybe you can help me figure this out because I heard her starting to sing whistle while you work. Yep

[01:03:43] There's nothing wrong with the performance. It's too pop

[01:03:47] It

[01:03:49] Okay, that's what it was because I remember I'm listening to it and I didn't like it

[01:03:52] But I'm like there's nothing technically wrong here. Oh, and it's it's a little bit lower

[01:03:56] Which is weird because I know she can hit that range. Yeah

[01:04:00] Like I know she can sing those notes. She's saying higher in west side stories. So I was kind of like

[01:04:06] I'm like, why are they doing this like glee did that shit all the time and it frustrated me

[01:04:12] Yeah, but even then so like they're there were playing it's it's so ironic because I think it's in

[01:04:19] It's easier at the end

[01:04:19] It's either at the end of season three and season four season four

[01:04:23] When they're at nationals and they just let lian michelle sing they don't

[01:04:28] Correct her that I mean, I'm sure they do a little bit

[01:04:30] But you know what I mean like they don't overdo it because a lot of the glee musical numbers were overproduced

[01:04:35] Even the Broadway ones

[01:04:37] Um, and they just let her sing and it was like this is amazing

[01:04:41] You could have had this the whole time

[01:04:43] But for some reason you guys want to put a filter over everything and it sounds terrible. I don't understand it

[01:04:49] Everyone here can sing

[01:04:52] Except cori montes, but you know and he got there

[01:04:56] Speaking a little dead

[01:04:59] No, no, no at the very beginning he'll there's even backstage. There's behind the scenes

[01:05:04] Stuff saying that cori montes had trouble. He got there

[01:05:07] You got season four by season four certainly and it's like by season four everyone on that stage can sing

[01:05:13] Yeah, like over half of them had been on Broadway already. Yeah, like why are we doing this?

[01:05:22] It's literally cheaper too. It's literally cheaper to just mic them and record it. You don't understand

[01:05:29] My problem with the snow white trailer was like the scene where she's like in the woods and she like

[01:05:34] lays down and she's yeah

[01:05:37] I'm like that just that doesn't well and like

[01:05:41] And like was her dress CGI too because the whole thing just looks so fake

[01:05:45] Yeah, I know her dress wasn't CGI by the way, but it looks like they touched it up

[01:05:49] Yeah, the CGI and i'm just like why and it's like wow they

[01:05:55] Disney pulled a complete 180 on this one because they they went from like we're gonna change everything

[01:06:01] To like nope. We're just gonna do a frame by frame remake, but we're gonna CGI the shit out of it

[01:06:07] And i'm just like I was thinking about that driving home too and i'm just like

[01:06:13] Here's the thing about snow white

[01:06:17] Hold comments till the end because it's gonna sound bad until I explain the whole thought

[01:06:23] From pure cinema language, the movie in and of itself is not that stellar

[01:06:28] It's fairly by today's standards in you know the 1930s. It was all spectacle. It was the first

[01:06:35] Full-length animated feature and it looked damn good

[01:06:39] Like so half of the appeal in the movie is pure spectacle

[01:06:44] But nowadays like there's not really anything about the movie that's technically stellar which makes sense because it was quite some time ago

[01:06:51] So why would you remake that movie shot for shot almost but using

[01:06:57] I mean frankly just CGI that doesn't really look all that good, right and like

[01:07:04] What year did the live action lion king come out like it's been a minute

[01:07:07] Yeah, right. Yeah, and those animals looked better

[01:07:12] Like so there are they trying to make it like are they trying to make it look like this?

[01:07:17] I mean

[01:07:24] My opinion the live action lion king also it was it was terrible

[01:07:29] Those animals had no expression

[01:07:34] Because they look so photo realistic. That's one. That's the point i'm making it's like we listen. We know you can

[01:07:40] We know you can animate a deer that looks like a deer

[01:07:43] Yeah

[01:07:44] You did it years ago surely now and like we all saw avatar. Yeah, those those space whales looked real come on

[01:07:54] Free willy in space looked amazing like we know you can do this

[01:07:58] And the dwarfs

[01:08:00] They look so fake. It looks so bad

[01:08:05] Like this is not this is not going to be good and I just

[01:08:11] I guess my whole thing is when you have Disney money

[01:08:15] And you know this thing is going to be the shits and you know, you're not going to make any money anyway

[01:08:20] But that's your legacy. Let's reshoot the damn thing

[01:08:23] I'm sure rachel zegler's not going to say no to more money

[01:08:27] Although after this she might because

[01:08:32] Like reshoot it redo the whole thing and then put the shitty one on disney plus and be like see

[01:08:36] This is what we almost gave you so can we get a thanks, please?

[01:08:42] This is this is what we were gonna give you

[01:08:48] And then it'll become it'll it and then it'll become a cult classic and get a life of its own surely

[01:08:53] Oh my god, I can just see in the in the description. Here's what we almost gave you

[01:08:58] You're welcome

[01:09:01] It's it's in the same spirit but a completely different message as the uh the disclaimer at the beginning of song of the south

[01:09:07] It's like listen this has problems, but it exists

[01:09:12] so

[01:09:13] As the this version of snow white has every problem

[01:09:18] There's all the problems just no racism

[01:09:25] It has really new problems

[01:09:31] I I will say though in in defense of rachel zegler. I I remember being we can defend her

[01:09:39] Her her performance is maria. Yes, I can I can do that because I remember

[01:09:46] when

[01:09:48] So it's one of my favorite scenes in the original when maria and tony see each other from across the room and

[01:09:53] I really prefer how the original did it, but I understand the newer movie. It's more realistic

[01:09:59] I love the effect they do where everything kind of blacks out and disappears except for them and the wider shot while they're dancing

[01:10:05] I think comes across a little bit better

[01:10:08] It's a little hokey in the new one because maria just kind of starts dancing around them and

[01:10:14] And what's answer is I always forget his name ansel

[01:10:18] Elgort. Yeah

[01:10:20] Oh good for me. I remember

[01:10:22] It just kind of looks at her weird when he first starts doing it

[01:10:27] Because it is kind of just out of nowhere behind the bleachers and he just kind of has a

[01:10:31] Oh, yeah that scene

[01:10:32] Her arms out and like

[01:10:36] Very initially he's just kind of like the fuck are you doing?

[01:10:39] But um he gets into it eventually, but yeah, it's it's much I prefer it in the

[01:10:47] I prefer the dancing part of it in the beginning, but the time I don't know the talking parts a little bit better too

[01:10:52] But that's the scene where I was like, oh

[01:10:56] Okay, I see this I totally see this

[01:11:01] And I I'm not a fan or I wasn't I should say I wasn't a fan

[01:11:05] Of ansel elgort until west side story. Yeah, because he brought it he he came to play

[01:11:13] um and kudos because apparently he's saying a couple of numbers live on the soundstage which

[01:11:20] Bravo, I know one of them was um maria

[01:11:24] When he was seeing maria apparently a lot of that was live on set so it's like

[01:11:30] That's another song that I really really like from west side story maria. I do sing it a lot when it comes on my playlist

[01:11:37] It's just fun to sing

[01:11:40] I just I I remember that song and I can't help but think if this was like real life and

[01:11:49] Okay, I have to ask you have you seen um god, this is old so you may not have seen it

[01:11:54] It's very old, but it's hilarious

[01:11:56] I think it was around the same time that like high school musical two came out

[01:12:00] And zack effron was on snl

[01:12:02] And he oh god, they do this scene where it's um, um, what's his name in high school mea?

[01:12:07] Troy, right? Yeah. Yeah

[01:12:09] Troy comes back after his first year of college to speak to his high school

[01:12:17] He tells them all what it was like and he was like

[01:12:21] I get on campus and I was nervous but excited

[01:12:24] So I started seeing a song that I wrote

[01:12:27] Nervous but excited and they were like and did everyone join in and going in and you know sing with you and he goes no

[01:12:32] They did not

[01:12:35] It's a great skit. It's very fun. He was like people don't just spontaneously break into song and dance in the real world

[01:12:43] You can't do it

[01:12:44] But like he's in that alleyway and I could just picture like the like the neighbors be like

[01:12:50] Fucking shut the fuck up

[01:12:53] Some kid out there being like maria

[01:12:56] maria maria maria

[01:12:59] Everybody's like

[01:13:00] To me it seems like you could very easily make like a parody version of west side story and make it absolutely hilarious

[01:13:12] You could

[01:13:13] Yeah

[01:13:15] This actually get get andrew garfield to play uh

[01:13:20] To play uh, well, you'd have to play burnardo for this show to work for this joke to work

[01:13:24] But i'm gonna say it anyway because it's funny. Damn it his riff pulls out his knife and he goes. Oh, no

[01:13:30] It's my weakness. It's small knives

[01:13:37] It could be quite funny. There's there's some bitch you could do because at least in the uh

[01:13:42] In the original like the knives are very small like don't get me wrong. They'll do damage

[01:13:46] but they're they're quite small knives

[01:13:48] And it just kind of like

[01:13:50] There's

[01:13:51] They just pull out the knives and they're like done and it's like it's like a pocket knife

[01:13:59] It's like you'd be much better off with a stick

[01:14:05] Win with a stick, but you'd be better off

[01:14:07] Oh, you'd absolutely win with a stick. You got more rain. Oh, yeah. Yeah

[01:14:13] To quote shad from shatter versi on youtube. It's like why complicate things when you have good old stick

[01:14:21] It's like I can hit you from far away. I can throw it. It doesn't break on me

[01:14:29] Oh my god, never underestimate the power of a good stick

[01:14:33] uh

[01:14:34] But yeah, like I can totally picture like all the neighbors going on dinner balconies and is watching him

[01:14:40] I need to be like it's through the clock in the morning

[01:14:45] Yeah, although um, they they begin

[01:14:49] The musical number america with the neighbors. So that's a nice little touch too. Yeah, because they all kind of start out together

[01:14:56] Yeah

[01:14:57] But yeah, Tony's over there just like singing his poor little heart out at 3 a.m in the morning

[01:15:02] So you would imagine in new york city you would imagine there would be quite a few people telling him

[01:15:07] Uh where he can shove it, you know

[01:15:11] That's the other thing too

[01:15:16] Right somebody just throws a brick at him and then the credits roll

[01:15:21] Okay, uh, that's that's another thing there there are some scenes in the new version that

[01:15:26] I don't really know who to blame for this

[01:15:28] But they're just Tony's very cringe at some moments like when they're on the subway

[01:15:31] And he's like I love you when I want to be with you forever and maria's like

[01:15:36] I met you last night dude like let's

[01:15:40] Let's calm down

[01:15:41] Right, but but then if you like cut to like the church scene like they're in that little chapel thing

[01:15:48] Yeah, think of our hands hands is one hand think of our hearts is one heart and like

[01:15:55] You were just literally 10 minutes ago said like I just met

[01:15:59] And then you're singing then you're singing like oh, yeah, we're in love

[01:16:04] Maybe she likes churches. I don't know but yeah, that is one thing

[01:16:07] That is one thing we're in the original at the very least it's consistent because it's like it's very clear

[01:16:12] Like they they see each other from across the room and they're like we're doing this

[01:16:16] We're

[01:16:16] We're head over heels in love with each other and like yes, it's stupid, but they're also teenagers

[01:16:20] So just go with it. It's Romeo and Juliet

[01:16:23] But yeah for because maybe that's why it seems so cringe on Tony's part in the new version because maria is very much like

[01:16:31] Let let's calm down

[01:16:32] But then in the very next scene in the very next scene they're like doing like the faux wedding ceremony and it's kind of like

[01:16:41] I don't know. I this doesn't this doesn't jive

[01:16:44] This does not jive even then like she's she's also singing in like the scene

[01:16:50] I think it's like the saintresses place or whatever and like like she's cleaning and she's singing like I feel pretty

[01:16:56] Talking about how she's in love with with the way I hate that song

[01:17:00] And that's the only song. I don't like I hate that song so much

[01:17:04] This it's so goofy

[01:17:07] And like I get it. It's supposed to be a lighthearted fun number. Um

[01:17:11] I will say though

[01:17:15] I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing because they do change

[01:17:18] The order of some of the musical numbers. Yeah, like for example, they they change which I guess is actually more accurate to the

[01:17:24] Broadway play which I have not seen I really really should I want to see it on stage, but I guess they do

[01:17:31] Uh play it cool the song play it cool

[01:17:34] Is before the rumble whereas in the original film version it's after

[01:17:39] And I might be biased it does to me

[01:17:42] It does make more sense to be after the rumble, but I don't know that's that could just be my bias

[01:17:47] But I feel pretty being after the rumble

[01:17:52] It changes the tone of the song a little bit makes it a lot more tragic

[01:17:55] Right because it's like we know what just happened, but uh, maria still doesn't know

[01:18:03] and

[01:18:06] I

[01:18:07] Know I'm flip-flopping all over the place, but you know whatever

[01:18:11] uh

[01:18:12] the scene of like

[01:18:16] when

[01:18:17] Who's one that that like shoots tony?

[01:18:20] That's chino chino. Yeah

[01:18:23] like

[01:18:25] Chino is way better in the new movie too. He's he's just got he's just a more fleshed out character

[01:18:30] He's just kind of there in the original. Yeah, um except tony's doubly stupid in the first one because he's like

[01:18:38] Me chino

[01:18:40] And then it's surprised when chino kills

[01:18:44] but but this is like

[01:18:46] I think about that scene and i'm like

[01:18:51] This is an Anita's fault. This is all Anita's fault because

[01:18:55] Yes and no

[01:18:58] See I I I don't I

[01:19:00] Okay, so like logically yes, but at the same time let's consider when Anita's been through in one day. Yeah

[01:19:07] One night even not even a whole day. It's it's all happened tonight her her boyfriend her lover

[01:19:15] Theoretically her fiance because they were basically married

[01:19:19] um guys

[01:19:21] and she finds out that her

[01:19:24] brother's sister

[01:19:26] Who is basically like her sister?

[01:19:30] Is

[01:19:32] You know stripping the guy that killed him

[01:19:34] And then she is asked with a straight face to help them both out escape

[01:19:40] And she agrees to because she loves maria that much and then she goes to try to do

[01:19:45] That thing

[01:19:46] And then gets assaulted or costed and all the negative things we talked about before

[01:19:51] And then after all that I kind of

[01:19:54] I can see why she does what she does

[01:19:58] I get it. It's not it's not a good move but

[01:20:02] I can't say that I would be any better in the situation like it was like it's more of like, you know

[01:20:10] You're not thinking clearly because like you're filled with all this like rage and like

[01:20:16] Well and Anita didn't ask for any of that in fact in multiple especially in the new movie

[01:20:20] She says multiple times like why are you doing this? This is ridiculous. This is stupid

[01:20:24] You know blah blah blah. Why do you always fight and she kind of you know brushes it off as like, ah boys will be boys

[01:20:31] You know that kind of thing

[01:20:33] Which they all kind of do to a point because that's

[01:20:36] That's that's one thing that is very subtle in both the first and the new one

[01:20:40] I think they do a little bit better job of it in the first is once the knives come out

[01:20:44] There's a moment of realization on everyone's part that this just became real

[01:20:49] And none of them have the tools to de-escalate it and be like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

[01:20:54] Hang on hang on like

[01:20:57] Like no mediator in the whole situation. Well and none of them are

[01:21:02] Mature enough

[01:21:03] And can get out of their own way enough to be like wait hold on time out like knives like hang on let's back up

[01:21:09] Right like let's and Tony's trying but that's one of the things I like in the new one

[01:21:14] Is he finally gets his rage blinders on you know, which fits the character

[01:21:19] More and I do like that because it always did seem kind of silly or not silly

[01:21:23] It just it feels like it comes a little bit out of nowhere

[01:21:27] When Tony ends up stabbing Bernardo in the first one

[01:21:31] Because it doesn't have like you get it because yeah

[01:21:35] Uh, Bernardo kills wraith

[01:21:37] But then Tony just kind of randomly picks up the knife whereas they established that Tony's

[01:21:42] When Tony gets mad Tony will

[01:21:44] Fuck a dude up

[01:21:45] But he does and I love in the new version

[01:21:49] Which I like it in the old version too, but I just think that the um

[01:21:52] And I want to give credit where credits do and I have a horrible memory so bear with me

[01:21:57] Um, David Alvarez who plays Bernardo the look on his face after he stabs wraith

[01:22:03] Riff I keep saying wraith. It's riff wraith is from pearl harbor

[01:22:08] Riff when he stabs riff

[01:22:11] Um

[01:22:12] The look on his face when he realized what's just happened. Yeah, and it's an it's another moment of like

[01:22:17] Oh, this is real. This isn't pretend anymore

[01:22:22] right because like did didn't like in in the beginning like

[01:22:26] be like

[01:22:28] before

[01:22:31] Yeah before the rumble didn't they say like no knives no weapons just our fists

[01:22:38] That's what they yeah. Yeah, that's yes. That's exactly this Tony convinces them to do a one-on-one

[01:22:45] I would just skin because before that they are constantly escalating when they're naming weapons like knives change bottles guns blah blah blah blah

[01:22:55] And then Tony comes in and does the whole like oh, are you too chickened?

[01:22:59] You know use your use your hands and like where the hell did that knife come from old son?

[01:23:04] Well, they both brought him because again, they they figured that there was going to be an escalation. Yeah

[01:23:11] Which is kind of like and I I love the fact when they have the war council

[01:23:15] Because it's absurd on his face. You're planning a fight and there's going to be rules

[01:23:19] Like come on

[01:23:21] Right like everybody knows and I love how they actually believe

[01:23:25] Each party believes that the other will honor

[01:23:28] The end result of the fight

[01:23:31] Right, you know, it's always kind of like the concept of

[01:23:35] The rules of war for honor's sake is kind of

[01:23:39] silly on its face because

[01:23:42] You know the only the only way you get people to adhere to rules of war is with the threat of more

[01:23:48] war

[01:23:49] Even in today's international stage, you know, it's always it's always a little bit laughable and they're like, well

[01:23:54] Yeah, you can fight but you can only use these weapons

[01:23:57] Yeah, and the only the only reason they adhere to that is because they know that if they

[01:24:00] Don't adhere to those rules that somebody with bigger guns will come in and make them obey the rules. So

[01:24:07] And then it all ends with Tony getting shot in the back

[01:24:11] by chino

[01:24:14] And and and then and then maria just running to him as he's dying

[01:24:21] Well, he's about to fall. Yeah, he's about to fall

[01:24:25] And catching him and then like

[01:24:27] Literally draping herself over the body. Yeah, and like as as they're trying to like pick him up to take him to

[01:24:36] Get very essentially

[01:24:38] It's a great speech

[01:24:39] She's like no

[01:24:41] Yeah, and then she grabs the gun and it was like how many bullets can I use

[01:24:47] And still have enough for for me

[01:24:50] Yeah, it's I love that speech

[01:24:57] It's it's a very it's a very powerful moment and I mean at the end of the day, this is a tragedy and I have a really really odd

[01:25:04] love of

[01:25:06] Tragedy stories and probably this is probably why honestly, because I love west side stories so much

[01:25:13] Um

[01:25:14] Both movies do a really good job with that scene though. Um

[01:25:18] The new one in particular just because it's more contemporary feels a little bit more real

[01:25:23] But both are good

[01:25:25] The first one does kind of feel like a little bit staging, you know

[01:25:29] Yeah, which again, it was a different kind of acting. So I'm not cutting it up. It just it just is

[01:25:34] It just is what it is. Um

[01:25:38] But yeah, what what what's your favorite musical number from west side story?

[01:25:42] Uh

[01:25:47] It's you're gonna be so bad, but it's the one that you hate the most. Oh you like I feel pretty. Yeah

[01:25:55] That's just a personal preference for me. I just don't care for it as a musical number. Um

[01:26:03] I like a lot of them, but I gotta say my favorite is quintet, which is the first that like the

[01:26:09] I don't know how much I don't recall how many acts, but it's the it's the mid climax right before the rumble

[01:26:13] When everybody's getting ready, you know, yeah

[01:26:15] It's such a great song and it's it's a little bit of everything. So

[01:26:23] Also, I just forgot I I just really remember too when she picked up the gun

[01:26:29] She's like, how do I hold this and like yeah, how do I hold it? I'm like, oh

[01:26:33] Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You don't know how to hold it. Why are you why are you even having it?

[01:26:40] Well, she's about to use it on some people

[01:26:43] I mean, you are and I hope

[01:26:46] Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, and then we should have been like

[01:26:50] Hand it to me. I'll show you

[01:26:55] Get get the gun out of the angry girls hands, please

[01:27:00] Um

[01:27:03] But yeah, so uh

[01:27:05] I love me some West Side Story

[01:27:06] I actually went and saw it in the theater twice when it came out and both times I was like

[01:27:10] Why is this place not packed? I don't understand

[01:27:12] Because it is it's a really good movie

[01:27:14] Yeah, and I don't think you didn't get the love it wasn't packed either. I'm like

[01:27:19] I mean, especially after I'd seen it I was like, no, this is great. Like this is phenomenal and it's it's a shame because

[01:27:29] Like Le Misarab was packed when they made the

[01:27:32] The theatrical version of that which that was I mean it was Hugh Jackman. So I kind of get it but

[01:27:39] Um, yeah, I don't really understand like I can't imagine at least where I lived

[01:27:43] I can't imagine people were still afraid of coven that much. Yeah

[01:27:47] like because

[01:27:49] I don't and I will I will say though

[01:27:52] That was still at the time when theaters were only doing half capacity

[01:27:56] So

[01:27:56] Yeah, but I mean when I say there was there might have been one other person at one of the screenings I went to

[01:28:01] Other than that it was which it was kind of cool because I like I like it when the movie theater's empty

[01:28:06] But at the same time I want these movies to make money so that they'll keep making them

[01:28:09] Um

[01:28:11] So I was a little disappointed with that but like when me and my mom went to go see the deer of enhancing

[01:28:17] We saw it in i max, which is like if you want to see if you see if you ever go see a movie musical

[01:28:25] Adoption again go see an i max because it's phenomenal in i max

[01:28:30] I'm a dolby guy myself. I don't

[01:28:33] I mean don't get me wrong. I max school like but I'm I'm an amc dolby guy

[01:28:39] I got spoiled the first movie I saw on amc dolby was 1917 and I'm sorry the moving sound

[01:28:45] I love it. Yeah, and I in my in my movies and tv shows I like

[01:28:53] Bright vibrant high contrast colors and dolby is just chef's kiss. Yeah

[01:29:00] Because it's one of my it's it's

[01:29:04] It's part of my identity honestly because it's why I like sony cameras more than canon because

[01:29:10] I'm sorry the colors just better colors way better

[01:29:13] I I I don't like canon and I love sony lenses and my favorite

[01:29:18] You know, well one of my favorite television shows ever is one tree hill

[01:29:22] I don't know if you've seen it but the reason one of the reasons I love it so much

[01:29:26] Is because it's so beautifully shot and the colors are so rich and vibrant

[01:29:31] And I just I dig it

[01:29:36] So

[01:29:38] And so many movies these days are dark and I was afraid that the new west side story because the trailer kind of made it look like

[01:29:44] It was going to be dark. Thankfully it wasn't

[01:29:46] You know what I mean? They're like so many movies today are so dark and drab

[01:29:50] Yeah

[01:29:52] Yeah

[01:29:54] Even somehow the snow white trailer made it look darker than it should have been and I was just like why I'm like no

[01:29:59] Oh

[01:30:02] And it made it look crappier

[01:30:04] Gal Gadot

[01:30:07] I will say when she was in the full queen makeup, I can see it. I can see that. Yeah

[01:30:12] But we're gonna get to see CGI gal Gadot too. Oh

[01:30:15] Into the hag. Oh, I forgot

[01:30:19] That's gonna be awesome

[01:30:22] Okay, quick question. Do I have to do I have to go see it?

[01:30:25] I mean technically no, but

[01:30:28] I mean you're gonna get you're gonna get them views

[01:30:34] In a way you can like you here's the thing you don't have to but in a way you kind of do

[01:30:41] Because I mean you're a disney podcast speaking of have you seen Deadpool and Wolverine yet? No

[01:30:52] It's good shit

[01:30:54] I haven't even seen the first one either because I've not into those movies

[01:30:58] Hey fair enough. They're not they're not for everybody

[01:31:01] Um, you will you'll appreciate what I was gonna say did you know that

[01:31:06] Deadpool's at Disneyland

[01:31:07] Yes, I know I I my goal is to convert you. I know

[01:31:13] Oh, yeah, you you

[01:31:15] I forgot that you sent me those videos and I'm like

[01:31:19] fine

[01:31:22] In fact, if you were a showman you'd be the greatest

[01:31:26] I'm like, okay fine. You turn me. I hope you're happy

[01:31:30] I am I will say this though Deadpool and Wolverine will make you appreciate

[01:31:35] Nsync way more than you ever thought you ever would

[01:31:40] Although I heard from somebody that they're going away

[01:31:44] Disneyland in like a month

[01:31:47] That's going away

[01:31:49] I think I think that's a bad decision, but maybe who knows I don't I don't know why

[01:31:56] I don't either but personally I think Deadpool is the kind of character that you would just have somebody meandering around the park all day and just

[01:32:02] He can show up anywhere and it'll it'll work because that's kind of Deadpool's thing

[01:32:07] See, but in my opinion, I feel like Deadpool would be better at universal

[01:32:14] Yeah, but they don't own it. Yeah

[01:32:16] Oh

[01:32:17] Unfortunately, they don't yeah. No, that's that's a that's a Disney property now. Oh my god

[01:32:23] Poor people

[01:32:25] I don't know. I kind of like the idea of Deadpool just showing up randomly in some of the shows

[01:32:31] Oh my god, did did you see um

[01:32:35] Agatha all along that that promo for like no, I have not the one of it. It's terrifying

[01:32:45] I don't I don't know because I didn't watch Wanda vision

[01:32:48] I haven't watched any of the Disney plus like Marvel series because I just I I don't have

[01:32:54] Time I don't have time and I don't particularly care either

[01:32:59] And my biggest critique of the MCU and I know Justin shares my view of this too

[01:33:04] Is like if I have to do homework to know what's going on in a movie then it's a bad movie

[01:33:10] Because again, you should be able to explain

[01:33:13] In your narrative anything the audience needs to know. Yeah, exactly

[01:33:17] Um, if I have to have watched a 12 episode series to understand what's happening then you're you're not moving properly

[01:33:25] Yep

[01:33:28] So

[01:33:29] Just my two cents

[01:33:30] Not a probably the not a problem that west side story has at all. You know, what's up

[01:33:35] You know, what's going on. I know what's going on

[01:33:38] Yeah, you know everyone that's listening to this podcast right now

[01:33:42] knows what's going on

[01:33:44] I would think so

[01:33:45] I would hope so

[01:33:47] Yeah, although you may have gotten a random flick and they're like, what is this never watch west side story. Is it any good?

[01:33:53] I can't imagine they hung around this long if they weren't interested, but hey, you never know

[01:33:58] They might have just hung out

[01:33:59] Maybe maybe somebody has youtube playing while they sleep though

[01:34:03] And then this video just came on randomly and they woke up like we used to do

[01:34:07] At 3 a.m. When we left the tv on and it had like the the the greatest like hour ballads of the 80s and 90s

[01:34:14] So again, they just wake up and they're like, huh?

[01:34:18] West side story

[01:34:22] We can all hope

[01:34:27] Oh, I have also other news. I'm gonna share with you after this podcast because like this is amazing

[01:34:36] So yeah, but uh, thank you jake for coming on

[01:34:41] You're welcome. I called this I said I wanted west side story

[01:34:44] I know and like you you you called it and I was like, okay, you're getting it. I'm like, it's mine

[01:34:52] You did you you touched me twice about wanting to do it. I'm like, okay, you're getting it already told you you can have it

[01:34:58] I just wanted to make sure

[01:35:00] Because it's so good and I love it so much. I love it too

[01:35:05] I have shown it to people though and they clearly don't get it

[01:35:09] They're just clearly not interested in they're like why are these two?

[01:35:13] I'm like, they're in love. Damn it. I know they just

[01:35:17] That's in the script

[01:35:19] What's not to get

[01:35:22] It's like listen, they're stupid children and they were clearly there are clearly no adults around anywhere

[01:35:27] So that's that's the root of all this problem except for don

[01:35:31] But doc's outnumbered. He's just like, why are you doing this?

[01:35:36] Now I just imagine don knots is I think

[01:35:39] Well, they're like this

[01:35:40] We even read a marina those character

[01:35:45] Being doggies is like, why are you all like also like, why are you doing this?

[01:35:50] Yeah, I did kind of like she had a little bit more bite to her

[01:35:54] As as doc than the original. Yeah, I kind of dug it and I

[01:35:58] When she's teaching tony Spanish, I do love when he's like, how do I say?

[01:36:03] Oh, I want to be with you forever. She's like, you sure you don't want to ask her out for coffee first

[01:36:10] I was like, oh she got she got the funnies. Yay. Yeah, she's like which reed a morano is underrated comedically. She is hilarious. Yeah

[01:36:19] Dude quite funny. Also if I remember correctly, she was pretty good friends with lucille ball. Was she not?

[01:36:25] Yes, she was that's I thought so I thought I remembered that. Yeah. Oh god. I can imagine those two

[01:36:34] So funny

[01:36:38] But again

[01:36:40] Oh, so funny, but again, thank you jake for coming on

[01:36:44] You're a most welcome anytime

[01:36:47] and thank you guys for watching and

[01:36:50] We will see you next time. Bye guys