Part of Your Broadway World Podcast(S3EP12)|Wicked Part 1: Page,Stage,Screen with Jake and Justin

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[00:00:19] Excuse me

[00:00:20] Welcome to the Part of your broadway world

[00:01:01] I'm gonna warn you guys, we're talking about Wicked the movie, musical, and Wicked the musical and the book

[00:01:09] A lot of Wicked, and it's fair warning I might cry a lot because I just saw it a couple hours ago and I'm still kind of crying

[00:01:17] Oh my god, I'm crying right now

[00:01:20] So just to understand, Hayley's definitely seen the movie. Jake, have you seen the movie?

[00:01:25] I did, I saw it last night

[00:01:27] I have not seen the movie and I have not seen the movie, and you've both seen the musical

[00:01:31] Yes

[00:01:32] But Hayley has not read the book but Jake has read the book

[00:01:35] I have read the book

[00:01:36] Okay, so as the person who has done none of this, I like to take a stab guessing what this is about

[00:01:43] Based on cultural osmosis, having watched the trailer, and a quick five second read of the Wikipedia article I did five years ago

[00:01:51] So, okay, so there's Glenda the Good Witch, and then there's the Wicked Witch of the West

[00:02:00] And they go to a high school, and initially they're not friends, but then they become friends

[00:02:07] And there's a bit of latent sexual tension between the two of them, you think they might be in love with each other

[00:02:14] And then, and then the second act is she goes off and she does a Wizard of Oz

[00:02:19] And the whole thing is, you think she's the bad guy, but she's not the bad guy

[00:02:24] And maybe the green skin is a metaphor for racism, did I pretty much get it?

[00:02:31] Yes and no

[00:02:33] It depends on what part

[00:02:34] I wasn't expecting a yes, I was expecting a full word out

[00:02:36] I was gonna say the same thing, yes and no

[00:02:38] It depends on what you're talking about

[00:02:40] The green skin, I'm not gonna say full-blown racism, but persecution

[00:02:47] Because there's her green skin and then plus, well, I wouldn't even say persecution

[00:02:50] More like ostrac, what's the word? Ostrac, ostracizing

[00:02:56] Yeah, that one

[00:02:59] Interesting

[00:03:00] The animals would be like racism

[00:03:05] Interesting, and they are not in the movie, right?

[00:03:09] No, they are, I was surprised

[00:03:11] They're in every

[00:03:14] Well, they kind of have to be for that story though

[00:03:16] Because they're in the book, they're in the stage play

[00:03:19] They are in the movie more than the stage play

[00:03:21] Which I actually liked for the most part

[00:03:25] Yeah

[00:03:25] So, my question about the movie is, and we have brought this up many times

[00:03:30] How does it wind up being 2 hours and 40 minutes when the main musical is only 2 hours, 2 hours 25?

[00:03:37] Because there's more like backstory and detail

[00:03:42] That, that, that

[00:03:44] Does it service it?

[00:03:45] It services it

[00:03:46] Most of it

[00:03:48] Yeah

[00:03:48] I will say this, I will say this

[00:03:50] I will say this

[00:03:53] I, and I told my mother this when we got home

[00:03:56] I was like, shameless plug and you know, hot take

[00:04:01] I liked the movie a lot more than I liked the musical

[00:04:07] Really?

[00:04:08] Because the musical has a lot of plot holes that, that the movie filled

[00:04:15] Well, the movie's got a fair amount, but

[00:04:17] Hmm

[00:04:19] Okay

[00:04:20] If you would, share

[00:04:22] Like we know

[00:04:23] Like, like in the movie

[00:04:24] We know a lot more about Elphaba's childhood

[00:04:28] True, yeah

[00:04:29] There are, there are a couple of additional scenes that flesh that out

[00:04:33] Yeah

[00:04:35] Yeah

[00:04:36] Yeah, that's a good point

[00:04:36] Um

[00:04:39] Yeah

[00:04:39] I don't know that I call that a plot hole

[00:04:41] But yeah, I think

[00:04:43] The movie has to be careful because

[00:04:47] I, I say this whenever we're talking about movies or television

[00:04:50] Is even when you're talking about a well-established IP

[00:04:54] When you're creating the story, you still have to assume that your viewer has never seen the source material that you're talking about

[00:05:02] Yeah

[00:05:02] So, and I think, I think this movie did a fantastic job of that because

[00:05:07] Hmm, 70% of the people in the theater that I went to were clearly fans of the musical

[00:05:11] But like, for example, I took my girlfriend with me

[00:05:15] She's, she's never seen The Wizard of Oz

[00:05:17] So she had no

[00:05:19] Well, she's not from the United States, so

[00:05:22] But, um, but I mean, you want to talk about confused

[00:05:27] Yeah

[00:05:27] Yeah

[00:05:27] But even, but even she liked it, she's like

[00:05:31] Why do the monkeys have wings?

[00:05:32] I'm like, it's, it's a thing, it's a thing

[00:05:34] The thing

[00:05:36] It's a thing, which is really

[00:05:38] That's very surreal because we've, we all saw The Wizard of Oz when we were children, I presume

[00:05:43] Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah

[00:05:45] So blue flying monkeys

[00:05:46] Yeah, so, but I mean the first time, so like the blue flying monkeys are not a weird thing for us

[00:05:51] We, we get that reference as Captain America would say

[00:05:54] Yeah

[00:05:54] About the same movie too

[00:05:55] But for somebody who's never seen The Wizard of Oz, that's way out of left field

[00:06:00] Mm-hmm

[00:06:02] Way out of left field

[00:06:04] Interesting, I, my, my thing, I will say

[00:06:07] I did, I did sneak a peek at, I mean the one, I joked, the one song I know from this play is Defying Gravity

[00:06:13] So I needed to see how Defying Gravity was staged

[00:06:16] And like, my goodness

[00:06:18] Spoiler alert, I guess, but

[00:06:19] My goodness, I make fun of Dear Evan Hansen for doing nothing with its staging

[00:06:24] My God, the staging of that, of that number

[00:06:26] I'm like, this is what musicals need to be

[00:06:28] Like the effort, the effort that has gone into, into making this look exciting and dynamic and interesting

[00:06:33] And like, this is what the movie musical, this is using the medium of film to, to be interesting

[00:06:39] Like, I, I watched The Producers and that movie just does nothing with the medium of film

[00:06:43] And I'm like, oh, this, this is like, yeah, this is what musicals should be

[00:06:47] Make more of this, please

[00:06:49] I've never seen The Producers, by the way

[00:06:51] Oh, really? That surprises me

[00:06:53] Also, it's very obvious that you don't enjoy the Guten Tag Hop Club

[00:06:58] Actually, no, I, I did quite

[00:07:00] Will Ferrell as the German was weird

[00:07:03] It was funny

[00:07:04] That, that movie though, was one of those things where I'm like, I feel like if I understood Broadway better

[00:07:09] I would, uh, I would maybe appreciate the sport

[00:07:11] I'm making so much hate for saying that

[00:07:14] Well, did you know who's The Producers?

[00:07:16] I mean, no, I, I hadn't until this week, so that's completely fair

[00:07:20] Yeah, no, it's not

[00:07:21] Um, I was, I had a thought and it's, it's, it's gone now

[00:07:24] Oh, so, no, um

[00:07:27] Okay, so I want to preface this with anything that I say critical of this movie is nitpicky

[00:07:32] Because overall, it was incredible, it was very well done

[00:07:36] Jerry, so anything negative I have to say is real nitpicky

[00:07:39] Where it's like, if I were putting charges, it's how I would do it

[00:07:42] But I don't think, there's only like one or two things that I actually think affected the film as a whole in a negative way

[00:07:48] But again, they're very minor

[00:07:49] The staging of Defying Gravity, I would have changed a little bit because there, Haley, you know

[00:07:55] When the song is kind of coming into its climax, there is a break in the vocals, but there's not a break in the music

[00:08:01] And the music crescendos up

[00:08:03] Um, in the movie, there's a break and then action

[00:08:08] Which kind of cuts the song out, it cuts the legs out from under the song

[00:08:13] Oh, you're talking about the bit where she's singing and then she all of a sudden sweeps over on the broom?

[00:08:19] No, it's when she goes around flying, right before she goes

[00:08:22] So if you care to find me

[00:08:24] And then she goes, whoosh

[00:08:25] Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, where it makes that break in the flow of the song

[00:08:30] I mean, it just, it just stops it because it actually goes into a completely different musical theme, which

[00:08:37] I understand why you would do if that's the choice you want to make, right?

[00:08:41] But, because frankly, the music of that part of Defying Gravity is not long enough

[00:08:44] Um, but it, it just, that kind of a song

[00:08:48] And I will say, if you've never heard that song before, you wouldn't notice it and it wouldn't bother you

[00:08:53] But if you love that song like I do, I was just like, oh

[00:08:59] I mean, I noticed it too, but it didn't bother me

[00:09:02] But like I said, it's not a huge deal because the shot was, I mean, the, the sequence is

[00:09:07] It, it does what it's supposed to do

[00:09:10] I'm just, I, I didn't love how it cut

[00:09:13] The most iconic song from the musical out at the knees

[00:09:16] And then you have to, granted it's real easy to restart because it starts on a crescendo, right?

[00:09:20] But, I, I, having heard it only like once very briefly

[00:09:25] I will say that I, I like it when a, when a movie version is more orchestral

[00:09:30] Like it sounds more epic and sweeping and it definitely had that vibe to me

[00:09:34] Me and Jordan today, we talked about, uh, Les Mis, uh, the movie

[00:09:38] And with the big thing with that, we were like the rhythm and the, and the pacing of all the songs

[00:09:42] It's often, it makes those songs sound good

[00:09:44] It's, it's not, I applaud the film version of Les Mis for attempting to do what they did

[00:09:50] But it, it didn't, it didn't work

[00:09:52] So, I'm like, at least it sounds like Define Gravity

[00:09:54] Like, the rhythm is the rhythm that they sound off

[00:09:57] Fair, fair

[00:09:58] That actually, to me, into my next point, um, was like, the movie itself

[00:10:04] It does an incredible job of attempting what's really hard

[00:10:11] It's like singing live

[00:10:13] It's live singing

[00:10:15] Is it live singing?

[00:10:17] Yeah, they, they, they, they live sung the whole movie

[00:10:19] Wow! Yeah

[00:10:20] Wow! Yeah!

[00:10:22] Okay, nevermind, bravo

[00:10:24] Because they, so they did successfully what Les Mis tried to do

[00:10:27] Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah

[00:10:28] Wow!

[00:10:29] But, but Les Mis, it sounds very good

[00:10:32] Les Mis was trying to, like, turn song, a musical that was an opera

[00:10:36] And turn it into dialogue, which I think is why

[00:10:39] Yeah

[00:10:42] Yeah

[00:10:42] Yeah

[00:10:43] Yeah

[00:10:44] Yeah

[00:10:45] Yeah

[00:10:47] Yeah

[00:10:49] Yeah

[00:10:49] Yeah

[00:10:49] Yeah

[00:10:49] That's a nice of a, it's not, it's, you kind of

[00:10:51] It's a bliss of what,the best people like, what?

[00:10:54] The way they do it. We, like, the best shows, is their biggest cultura

[00:11:12] We taught, toendetagli optimism in this period

[00:11:19] the music sound more authentic.

[00:11:22] Like you,

[00:11:22] it allows you to act better.

[00:11:24] And I'll say that's impressive considering they're not Broadway for like

[00:11:28] they're not those kinds of performers.

[00:11:29] I was going to say,

[00:11:31] yeah,

[00:11:31] I believe they are.

[00:11:31] You'd have to be to sing those parts.

[00:11:34] Yeah.

[00:11:34] Is Ariana Grande,

[00:11:35] she's on Broadway.

[00:11:36] She's been on Broadway before.

[00:11:38] When she was a kid,

[00:11:40] she was on 13 on Broadway.

[00:11:42] Oh,

[00:11:43] okay.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:43] Well,

[00:11:43] and I will say this much.

[00:11:45] So,

[00:11:46] um,

[00:11:47] I had two major concerns.

[00:11:49] When I realized that this,

[00:11:52] this was real and they were making it.

[00:11:54] Um,

[00:11:54] Haley,

[00:11:55] you can correct me.

[00:11:56] Cause I just,

[00:11:56] I had just never heard of her before the actress that plays Elphaba.

[00:12:00] Cynthia Erivo.

[00:12:01] She was in the color.

[00:12:02] She was in the color of purple on Broadway.

[00:12:05] Oh,

[00:12:05] okay.

[00:12:05] Gotcha.

[00:12:06] Gotcha.

[00:12:06] I wasn't worried about her singing ability because I even said in the

[00:12:09] trailer,

[00:12:09] which is really funny because the version of Defying Gravity that was in

[00:12:12] the trailer is not what was in the film.

[00:12:15] Um,

[00:12:16] I don't know why they put that version in the trailer because it was

[00:12:19] significantly not as good as what was in the movie.

[00:12:24] Um,

[00:12:25] I'm like,

[00:12:26] so I had concerns.

[00:12:27] My idea.

[00:12:28] That was my idea.

[00:12:29] Yeah.

[00:12:29] I had,

[00:12:30] I had concerns about that because the first time I saw the trailer,

[00:12:32] I was like,

[00:12:33] Oh,

[00:12:34] like again,

[00:12:34] and not saying she's a bad singer,

[00:12:36] but that's a very difficult song.

[00:12:40] Let's sing.

[00:12:41] Yeah.

[00:12:42] And so I was kind of like,

[00:12:44] Oh,

[00:12:44] I don't,

[00:12:44] Oh,

[00:12:45] I wouldn't have led with that.

[00:12:46] And then also when the whole controversy broke out,

[00:12:50] I'll be honest.

[00:12:51] I,

[00:12:51] I,

[00:12:51] and I still think the actress is,

[00:12:53] I mean,

[00:12:53] I'll just say it.

[00:12:54] She's,

[00:12:54] I,

[00:12:54] she comes across as kind of a bitch to me.

[00:12:57] And I was afraid that that would affect the portrayal of the

[00:13:00] character.

[00:13:00] I will say this much.

[00:13:01] She can act if nothing else.

[00:13:03] She can act because Elphaba was played.

[00:13:07] I mean,

[00:13:08] she played Elphaba.

[00:13:09] I mean,

[00:13:09] it was great.

[00:13:10] And she had emotional range.

[00:13:11] She had depth.

[00:13:12] Everybody had depth.

[00:13:13] That being said.

[00:13:15] And then the other concern I had was that they were going to overproduce it,

[00:13:18] which there were moments where they kind of just couldn't help themselves.

[00:13:23] I like the beginning with the flying monkey sequence.

[00:13:26] I'm like,

[00:13:26] do we need this?

[00:13:27] Cause we don't really need to this.

[00:13:30] We don't really need this.

[00:13:32] And then the other one that this is probably my biggest nitpick.

[00:13:35] Like,

[00:13:36] which is kind of a pothole too,

[00:13:37] is when they go to the Azdas ballroom and all the musicians are animals.

[00:13:43] That was a little weird.

[00:13:45] That was weird.

[00:13:45] And it was also after they had taken Dr.

[00:13:48] Tillman away.

[00:13:49] Oh no,

[00:13:49] wait,

[00:13:49] that was before.

[00:13:50] That was before.

[00:13:51] That was before.

[00:13:52] Oh,

[00:13:52] okay.

[00:13:52] Okay.

[00:13:53] Okay.

[00:13:53] Okay.

[00:13:53] Nevermind.

[00:13:54] So,

[00:13:55] okay.

[00:13:55] So nitpick aside,

[00:13:56] I'm sorry.

[00:13:57] I was getting that mixed up in my head.

[00:13:58] Yeah.

[00:13:58] That was way before.

[00:13:59] Yeah.

[00:13:59] It was weird to me.

[00:14:00] I was like this.

[00:14:01] I mean,

[00:14:01] like it's,

[00:14:02] it's cute,

[00:14:03] but I don't think it's really necessary.

[00:14:05] It was funny though.

[00:14:07] Yeah.

[00:14:08] It's one of those things,

[00:14:08] which that's me as a,

[00:14:10] as a producer,

[00:14:12] I'm real budget conscious.

[00:14:14] So I'm like,

[00:14:15] Hey,

[00:14:15] why don't we save 400 grand and use it somewhere else?

[00:14:21] Or I don't know,

[00:14:23] just not spend half a million dollars on an animated chipmunk,

[00:14:28] you know,

[00:14:29] just me.

[00:14:30] But that being said,

[00:14:31] I wasn't the director and it wasn't so bad that it took away.

[00:14:37] How's the,

[00:14:37] how's the pacing?

[00:14:39] Okay.

[00:14:39] Considering it's nearly three hours long.

[00:14:41] I didn't,

[00:14:42] I didn't realize it was three hours.

[00:14:44] Me neither.

[00:14:45] I,

[00:14:45] I like it ended and I looked at the clock.

[00:14:48] I was like,

[00:14:49] really?

[00:14:50] It's already over?

[00:14:51] Did you like the bait?

[00:14:53] Did you like the bait and switch they did in the title card?

[00:14:55] We're having wicked in the car.

[00:14:56] And then the tiny little part one fades in.

[00:14:59] Yes.

[00:14:59] And I,

[00:15:00] okay.

[00:15:00] I don't know if you noticed this.

[00:15:02] Um,

[00:15:04] the way that that looked is the exact same way.

[00:15:09] The wizard of Oz opening credit scene looks.

[00:15:13] Mm.

[00:15:14] Mm.

[00:15:15] And that was a fun little Easter egg.

[00:15:18] I just,

[00:15:19] yeah,

[00:15:19] I just honestly can't believe this movie exists.

[00:15:22] It's set in development.

[00:15:23] Hell for I've seen,

[00:15:25] I've seen,

[00:15:25] I was saying this to Haley earlier off,

[00:15:27] off,

[00:15:27] off camera,

[00:15:28] but I was saying how I,

[00:15:30] in varying degrees,

[00:15:31] I've seen a rumor or story about a wicked movie coming for like a decade.

[00:15:36] It's been in development for two years.

[00:15:39] Oh,

[00:15:40] longer than that.

[00:15:40] I think,

[00:15:40] I think I was going to say somebody was probably sniffing around once the

[00:15:44] Broadway show hit big.

[00:15:45] Yeah.

[00:15:46] I've seen various actors,

[00:15:47] directors like coming in and out of the project.

[00:15:51] Well,

[00:15:51] and then you also have to remember that we were whispering about a wicked

[00:15:54] movie being based more on the book around the time Oz,

[00:15:57] the great and powerful came out.

[00:15:59] And,

[00:15:59] and that movie shit the bed.

[00:16:01] So they were probably,

[00:16:02] every studio was probably like,

[00:16:03] no,

[00:16:04] dark wizard of Oz doesn't work.

[00:16:06] People don't want it.

[00:16:07] That,

[00:16:08] that was,

[00:16:08] they wanted that one.

[00:16:09] Yeah.

[00:16:10] I think because it was looking like Disney might produce this,

[00:16:13] I think at one point they're talking about it.

[00:16:15] And I will say this,

[00:16:17] like we've been,

[00:16:18] us theater fans and theater kids have been waiting for this movie for like

[00:16:24] 20 something years.

[00:16:26] How old is the musical?

[00:16:28] The,

[00:16:28] the,

[00:16:29] because the musical is 21 years old.

[00:16:31] Is it 21?

[00:16:32] I was going to say that was 2003,

[00:16:34] right?

[00:16:34] 2003.

[00:16:35] Yeah.

[00:16:35] Holy mackerel.

[00:16:36] Yeah.

[00:16:36] It's over to,

[00:16:36] wow.

[00:16:36] So we've been waiting for a very long time for multiple years.

[00:16:40] Yeah.

[00:16:40] Wow.

[00:16:40] This to happen.

[00:16:42] Interesting.

[00:16:43] I didn't realize it was that old.

[00:16:45] You know,

[00:16:45] we were saying it's still running on Broadway,

[00:16:48] right?

[00:16:48] Yep.

[00:16:49] Yeah.

[00:16:49] And fun fact too.

[00:16:51] And I just,

[00:16:52] I just read about this ticket sales have like been booming ever since the

[00:16:57] movie came out.

[00:16:58] Yeah.

[00:16:58] Oh yeah.

[00:16:58] I can ask why make a movie.

[00:17:00] The book sales is like,

[00:17:01] there's new printings of the book.

[00:17:03] Like this is all there.

[00:17:04] The media machines behind this for sure.

[00:17:05] I mean,

[00:17:06] I mean,

[00:17:06] my hope is that Hollywood learns from this and we get more musicals.

[00:17:11] Guys.

[00:17:11] I want more good musicals though.

[00:17:14] So that's fair.

[00:17:16] That's fair.

[00:17:16] That's for me.

[00:17:17] I'll think a bad musical.

[00:17:19] I don't,

[00:17:19] I love,

[00:17:20] I'm okay with,

[00:17:20] with a bad musical.

[00:17:22] Cause those are fun to make fun of.

[00:17:23] Well,

[00:17:24] I'm glad it did well because I was very disappointed with the performance of

[00:17:27] West side stories remake.

[00:17:29] Because that film's a gem and virtually nobody.

[00:17:33] It's very good.

[00:17:35] So I'm glad this one's going to do well.

[00:17:38] And.

[00:17:39] Holy crap.

[00:17:40] Ariana Grande is bringing it.

[00:17:46] Hi.

[00:17:47] Ariana Grande.

[00:17:48] I have to.

[00:17:49] Just say this to the camera.

[00:17:52] If I don't know if she's a watching list,

[00:17:54] but if you are,

[00:17:55] thank you.

[00:17:57] Oh,

[00:17:57] okay.

[00:17:58] I thought you were going negative.

[00:17:58] I was about to be like,

[00:18:00] Hey,

[00:18:00] Hey,

[00:18:00] now.

[00:18:02] I,

[00:18:02] cause I don't know what you're talking about.

[00:18:04] I have to say this to the camera.

[00:18:06] Thank you so much to you and Cynthia.

[00:18:09] About you took so good,

[00:18:12] so much good care of my witches.

[00:18:15] Like,

[00:18:16] thank you.

[00:18:18] Speaking of witches.

[00:18:19] Oh,

[00:18:19] go ahead.

[00:18:20] Sorry.

[00:18:20] I was going to say,

[00:18:20] people were so skeptical of her in particular going into this.

[00:18:23] They were like,

[00:18:23] I never,

[00:18:24] I never was.

[00:18:24] She's not,

[00:18:25] she's not Christina Chenoweth.

[00:18:27] She's no Christina Chenoweth.

[00:18:29] Christine Chenoweth.

[00:18:30] You mean?

[00:18:31] Christine,

[00:18:31] Christine Chenoweth.

[00:18:32] Damn it.

[00:18:33] Well,

[00:18:33] yeah,

[00:18:33] but she's,

[00:18:35] she's like,

[00:18:36] she's like one of the few handfuls of people in Hollywood that can

[00:18:39] actually sing in a similar range.

[00:18:41] Yeah.

[00:18:41] She was.

[00:18:41] So I was never worried.

[00:18:43] Yeah.

[00:18:44] I was.

[00:18:45] Yeah.

[00:18:45] I was never worried about Ariana Grande.

[00:18:47] In fact,

[00:18:47] when I saw that she was Glenda,

[00:18:49] I was like,

[00:18:49] Oh,

[00:18:49] okay,

[00:18:49] we're good.

[00:18:50] We're good.

[00:18:51] Fair enough.

[00:18:51] not just that though,

[00:18:52] but she's known.

[00:18:56] Kristen Chenoweth since she was like 10.

[00:18:59] Yeah.

[00:19:00] Oh,

[00:19:00] fair enough.

[00:19:01] Yeah.

[00:19:02] Oh,

[00:19:02] speaking of,

[00:19:03] speaking of the OGs though,

[00:19:05] how about that little Easter egg?

[00:19:08] During one short day.

[00:19:09] Oh my God.

[00:19:11] Oh,

[00:19:13] I think I know what,

[00:19:14] what you're talking about.

[00:19:15] Oh no,

[00:19:16] I was in the theater.

[00:19:16] I was like,

[00:19:17] it's them.

[00:19:18] It's them.

[00:19:19] And I love the fact that she did that,

[00:19:22] like almost like up above call.

[00:19:26] Oh,

[00:19:26] and then Christian Chenoweth putting her hand over Ariana's mouth.

[00:19:32] I love it.

[00:19:33] And I'm glad it wasn't,

[00:19:34] I'm glad it wasn't just a blink and you miss it moment.

[00:19:36] Like they had a whole number.

[00:19:37] They had a whole.

[00:19:39] And Idina,

[00:19:41] especially grinning ear to ear the whole time because they both knew.

[00:19:44] Now to,

[00:19:47] to use parlance from pro wrestling,

[00:19:48] they knew the pop they were going to get in the movie theaters.

[00:19:51] And they did.

[00:19:53] Like there were people gasping.

[00:19:55] And,

[00:19:55] and my fear.

[00:19:57] But speaking of that moment though,

[00:19:59] like all poor Ariana was trying to do was sing.

[00:20:02] And she's like,

[00:20:02] Nope.

[00:20:04] Nope.

[00:20:06] That was so nice.

[00:20:07] That was so nice.

[00:20:09] I'm loving it.

[00:20:09] I'm loving a cameo from the,

[00:20:11] right?

[00:20:11] See,

[00:20:11] I,

[00:20:12] I'm sorry.

[00:20:12] What made me realize this more than ever.

[00:20:14] I don't want to see original cast members come back and reprise roles from Broadway again.

[00:20:19] I think giving them a fun cameo.

[00:20:21] Like,

[00:20:22] I mean,

[00:20:22] it works with the shine.

[00:20:24] It worked with this.

[00:20:25] It worked.

[00:20:26] It worked.

[00:20:26] It kind of worked with your,

[00:20:27] well,

[00:20:28] it kind of worked with Dervin Hanson.

[00:20:31] No,

[00:20:31] no.

[00:20:32] I feel like it did.

[00:20:33] Ghoulish old,

[00:20:34] way too old man.

[00:20:36] Okay.

[00:20:38] Greed to disagree.

[00:20:39] Well,

[00:20:39] well,

[00:20:40] well that,

[00:20:40] well that,

[00:20:40] that was my only problem.

[00:20:42] What was he was too old,

[00:20:43] but his voice,

[00:20:44] his voice was,

[00:20:46] Oh,

[00:20:47] he still sounds good,

[00:20:47] but he,

[00:20:48] he sounds great,

[00:20:49] but he,

[00:20:50] he's too old.

[00:20:51] And like the makeup they,

[00:20:52] they have him in does him no favors.

[00:20:54] The way that movie shot,

[00:20:56] it doesn't no favors.

[00:20:57] Like he just looks like a,

[00:20:59] a,

[00:20:59] an adult man singing to a very teenage girl.

[00:21:03] It's just,

[00:21:05] but also,

[00:21:06] but also,

[00:21:06] it's going to make a fun short,

[00:21:08] but also to the,

[00:21:10] um,

[00:21:12] rent,

[00:21:13] which has all the original cast is well received.

[00:21:16] So it can go.

[00:21:17] Not all.

[00:21:18] Not all.

[00:21:19] Uh,

[00:21:19] they had new actor.

[00:21:21] They had new actresses for Joanne and Mimi.

[00:21:24] Oh,

[00:21:24] okay.

[00:21:25] Fair enough.

[00:21:25] I'm not a red fan.

[00:21:26] I,

[00:21:26] uh,

[00:21:27] I just knew that.

[00:21:27] I know that like a Dina Menzel.

[00:21:29] Ah,

[00:21:29] see,

[00:21:30] I'm keeping it related.

[00:21:31] I know she came back and it'll like Jesse all Martin came back.

[00:21:34] And I think like most of the main cast came back.

[00:21:36] I think.

[00:21:36] Most of the main cast.

[00:21:37] It was only Mimi and Joanne.

[00:21:39] Yeah.

[00:21:39] And apparently it's,

[00:21:40] if you like rent,

[00:21:41] people like that movie.

[00:21:42] So,

[00:21:43] Oh no,

[00:21:43] it was very good.

[00:21:44] It was very good.

[00:21:44] Um,

[00:21:45] so just to gush on Ariana more,

[00:21:47] because not only was the singing on point,

[00:21:49] she nailed the character.

[00:21:51] She nailed it,

[00:21:52] but she nailed it.

[00:21:53] But like I said,

[00:21:54] she had Kristen Chenoweth.

[00:21:57] Sure.

[00:21:57] Sure.

[00:21:58] Sure.

[00:21:58] But you still have to be able to do it.

[00:22:00] And I,

[00:22:00] I would like to point this out.

[00:22:02] I'm sure everybody can relate to this,

[00:22:05] but when I was leaving my theater,

[00:22:07] at least half the girls at one point were doing the hair flip.

[00:22:11] That's awesome.

[00:22:12] And,

[00:22:12] and laughing.

[00:22:13] And I was like,

[00:22:15] this is,

[00:22:15] this is tremendous.

[00:22:16] There were so many.

[00:22:18] You know,

[00:22:19] what's funny though,

[00:22:20] is she in an,

[00:22:21] or,

[00:22:22] you know,

[00:22:23] said in,

[00:22:23] in an interview that like,

[00:22:25] she's like,

[00:22:26] I had to go to the chiropractor after doing,

[00:22:28] after the movie,

[00:22:29] because like of that.

[00:22:32] There's a lot of weird body positioning.

[00:22:34] She does,

[00:22:34] which again is a callback from the musical.

[00:22:35] So it didn't come out of nowhere,

[00:22:36] but there's so many little things in this movie that were just perfection.

[00:22:41] Like,

[00:22:42] did you notice too,

[00:22:43] Fierro's dance movements were extremely atypical and spoiler alert.

[00:22:49] Fierro becomes the scarecrow.

[00:22:50] And I realized about halfway through his first dance number.

[00:22:52] I'm like,

[00:22:53] Oh,

[00:22:53] he's moving like a scarecrow.

[00:22:56] I get it now.

[00:22:58] And then they gave,

[00:23:00] they gave Bach a last name in this one.

[00:23:03] And I was like,

[00:23:04] that's a little on the nose.

[00:23:05] Bach Woodsman.

[00:23:07] My sister said something that,

[00:23:08] my sister said something that kind of irked me a little bit.

[00:23:11] She,

[00:23:12] she was like,

[00:23:13] I don't really feel like.

[00:23:17] Ethan Slater's Bach and are in,

[00:23:20] in Ariana had like chemistry.

[00:23:23] None.

[00:23:24] No.

[00:23:25] And.

[00:23:26] Okay.

[00:23:26] So here's together.

[00:23:27] In real life.

[00:23:28] Yeah.

[00:23:31] So,

[00:23:32] okay.

[00:23:32] I got a couple of nitpicks and like I said,

[00:23:34] these are very little nitpicks.

[00:23:36] Um,

[00:23:38] where,

[00:23:38] where the fuck are all the munchkins in munchkin land?

[00:23:41] Cause I saw a bunch of normal height people.

[00:23:47] Maybe it's,

[00:23:47] maybe,

[00:23:48] maybe.

[00:23:49] What a munchkin technically is.

[00:23:52] I mean,

[00:23:53] the wizard of Oz is different.

[00:23:56] Cause even in,

[00:23:57] in the musical,

[00:23:58] they're average height people.

[00:24:00] And why are they called munchkins?

[00:24:02] I don't know.

[00:24:04] See,

[00:24:05] I think the musical screw,

[00:24:06] which actually,

[00:24:07] yeah,

[00:24:07] now that you mentioned that,

[00:24:08] that is true.

[00:24:09] Um,

[00:24:09] or that is accurate because it wasn't false,

[00:24:11] but yeah,

[00:24:12] they do.

[00:24:12] That's weird.

[00:24:14] Um,

[00:24:14] although they do make a,

[00:24:15] make it a point to show that Bach is at least a little bit shorter,

[00:24:18] but.

[00:24:19] Yeah.

[00:24:20] Cause he's a short guy to be honest.

[00:24:23] Right.

[00:24:23] But yeah,

[00:24:24] no,

[00:24:24] no munchkins in munchkin land,

[00:24:26] but that was a retcon in the musical.

[00:24:27] So you can't blame the movie for that.

[00:24:31] also what,

[00:24:31] who's the actor that played Fiero in this?

[00:24:34] Jonathan Bailey,

[00:24:34] who is in Bridgerton.

[00:24:38] Um,

[00:24:38] I gotta say loved his spoken portrayal of Fiero.

[00:24:43] I did not love his singing.

[00:24:45] I loved his singing.

[00:24:47] Oh no.

[00:24:47] Okay.

[00:24:48] I need to clarify his singing was,

[00:24:50] there was nothing wrong with the singing,

[00:24:51] but singing as Fiero.

[00:24:52] Fiero.

[00:24:54] It wasn't,

[00:24:56] like I said,

[00:24:56] it wasn't bad,

[00:24:57] right?

[00:24:58] I'm not saying he did a horrible job.

[00:24:59] It's just,

[00:25:00] it was a little bit more reserved than I would,

[00:25:03] which it might've been an issue of direction too.

[00:25:06] To me,

[00:25:07] it came off a little bit more reserved.

[00:25:08] Whereas that number is supposed to be this big,

[00:25:10] like,

[00:25:11] which having it in a library was kind of weird,

[00:25:13] but that's supposed to be a big fun number.

[00:25:16] And it was really subdued compared to what it's supposed to be.

[00:25:20] But it is also too.

[00:25:21] It's also supposed to go directly into the Oz Dust Ballroom,

[00:25:24] as opposed to the interlude they have.

[00:25:26] I loved that scene.

[00:25:28] I love the fact when,

[00:25:29] when they go like,

[00:25:30] and they spin around in the,

[00:25:32] like the,

[00:25:32] the book wheel.

[00:25:34] I hated that.

[00:25:34] I hated that so much.

[00:25:36] I love that.

[00:25:36] I thought that was fun.

[00:25:37] Thanks.

[00:25:38] What's holding the books?

[00:25:40] Gravity's a thing.

[00:25:42] Not in,

[00:25:43] not in.

[00:25:44] Not in.

[00:25:45] I imagine.

[00:25:45] Not in eyes.

[00:25:46] Clearly not.

[00:25:48] This,

[00:25:49] this is,

[00:25:50] Dustin,

[00:25:51] my,

[00:25:52] my,

[00:25:52] my,

[00:25:53] my,

[00:25:53] my overanalyzation hat is coming on.

[00:25:56] It's like,

[00:25:57] okay,

[00:25:57] let's say,

[00:25:58] let's even assume that you live in a place where you can manipulate gravity in

[00:26:00] that way.

[00:26:01] Why?

[00:26:01] Why would you do it?

[00:26:02] Why would you go to the trouble?

[00:26:03] It just doesn't make sense.

[00:26:05] You don't have to do a decimal system.

[00:26:07] It sounds like,

[00:26:08] shut up.

[00:26:09] Have you guys seen,

[00:26:10] have you guys seen,

[00:26:11] uh,

[00:26:11] the Peter Pan movie,

[00:26:14] uh,

[00:26:14] with Hugh Jackman in it where they sing smells like teen spirit?

[00:26:18] No.

[00:26:19] Oh,

[00:26:20] okay.

[00:26:20] Me and Jordan hate that movie for the simple reason that,

[00:26:24] um,

[00:26:25] there's a,

[00:26:25] there's a magic flying pirate ship because of Peter Pan.

[00:26:28] And the explanation for why the pirate ship can fly is just simply that it's a magic

[00:26:33] flying pirate ship.

[00:26:34] So anytime,

[00:26:37] anytime anything ridiculous happens,

[00:26:40] we go,

[00:26:41] as you said,

[00:26:42] shorthand,

[00:26:42] we go magic flying pirate ship.

[00:26:44] So in this context,

[00:26:45] it sounds just like,

[00:26:45] it's sort of like it's,

[00:26:47] it's Oz.

[00:26:48] Oz is ridiculous.

[00:26:49] Magic non-following books.

[00:26:52] Magic non-following books.

[00:26:53] That's what I'm saying.

[00:26:54] It's,

[00:26:54] it's magic.

[00:26:55] Or,

[00:26:56] oh,

[00:26:56] you see,

[00:26:56] you don't watch the Simpsons,

[00:26:57] but there's a Xena being like,

[00:26:59] anytime you have any questions like that,

[00:27:01] a wizard did it.

[00:27:04] Wizard.

[00:27:06] Oh,

[00:27:06] wizard did it.

[00:27:08] Oh,

[00:27:08] wizard did it.

[00:27:09] So I'm,

[00:27:10] I'm curious.

[00:27:11] Um,

[00:27:11] how,

[00:27:12] how did you guys feel about Jeff Goldblum as the wizard?

[00:27:15] I loved it.

[00:27:16] Really?

[00:27:17] I found it,

[00:27:18] found it quite flat.

[00:27:19] Here's what I will say.

[00:27:20] As someone who hasn't seen this,

[00:27:21] I will,

[00:27:22] I will give you two,

[00:27:22] two varied opinions.

[00:27:23] I will say,

[00:27:24] I love Jeff Goldblum in anything that man can do no wrong.

[00:27:27] And it does feel out of place in this movie.

[00:27:29] Based on the marketing.

[00:27:30] That's a better,

[00:27:31] that's a better way to put it.

[00:27:32] It felt,

[00:27:33] it felt as though,

[00:27:36] it,

[00:27:37] because I love Jeff.

[00:27:38] I like Jeff Goldblum too,

[00:27:39] but as the wizard,

[00:27:41] I just didn't think it was a great fit.

[00:27:42] Cause for one thing,

[00:27:43] he's far too old to be playing the wizard at this point in time.

[00:27:47] Isn't the whole thing between,

[00:27:48] uh,

[00:27:49] the wizard and,

[00:27:50] and Elphaba.

[00:27:51] Doesn't he like seduce her?

[00:27:53] Isn't that the whole thing?

[00:27:54] And then he,

[00:27:54] it turns out he's a dick.

[00:27:56] Well,

[00:27:56] he,

[00:27:57] he,

[00:27:57] he,

[00:27:57] he doesn't seduce her romantically.

[00:27:59] He kind of like tries to seduce her with a position of power to basically be his muscle.

[00:28:05] So in a,

[00:28:06] in a way,

[00:28:06] that's where he seduced.

[00:28:08] She seduced the same way Anakin was seduced.

[00:28:10] Like Palpatine didn't want to,

[00:28:11] Palpatine didn't want to bone him.

[00:28:13] He wanted him as an enforcer.

[00:28:14] We'll see that in part two.

[00:28:16] I think.

[00:28:16] I was going to say,

[00:28:17] he's the one who convinces the world that she's the wicked witch.

[00:28:19] Right?

[00:28:20] Oh yeah.

[00:28:21] Yeah.

[00:28:21] Master of propaganda.

[00:28:23] Which actually,

[00:28:23] that's more Madame Morrible,

[00:28:24] isn't it?

[00:28:25] Who,

[00:28:26] I also didn't love that casting either.

[00:28:28] Again,

[00:28:29] nothing wrong with the actress.

[00:28:30] It's just that her portrayal I felt was a,

[00:28:31] that's.

[00:28:32] Does the wizard sing?

[00:28:34] Does the wizard sing?

[00:28:36] Eh,

[00:28:36] he's supposed to,

[00:28:37] but.

[00:28:38] Does Dick Rowe sing?

[00:28:40] He's saying.

[00:28:40] He,

[00:28:41] he,

[00:28:41] he,

[00:28:41] he rhythmically speaks.

[00:28:44] Oh,

[00:28:44] so we got a,

[00:28:45] we got a Christopher Walken,

[00:28:46] King Louie situation.

[00:28:47] Sentimental Man,

[00:28:48] though.

[00:28:48] He sings a,

[00:28:50] yeah,

[00:28:50] I don't know that I would call that singing.

[00:28:52] I would call that.

[00:28:54] Humming with words.

[00:28:55] Humming with words.

[00:28:56] If that makes sense.

[00:28:57] Well,

[00:28:57] it would style,

[00:28:58] but musically speaking.

[00:29:02] Yeah.

[00:29:02] Actually,

[00:29:02] I'm not,

[00:29:03] I'm,

[00:29:04] I'm,

[00:29:05] yeah,

[00:29:05] it's like,

[00:29:05] I'm not,

[00:29:05] I'm not here to cut up Jeff Goldblum because I mean.

[00:29:08] Hi,

[00:29:09] let's cut up Jeff Goldblum.

[00:29:10] No.

[00:29:11] I'm kidding.

[00:29:12] I just,

[00:29:13] I,

[00:29:13] to me,

[00:29:14] it seemed like.

[00:29:16] They were just trying to get a name.

[00:29:18] I mean,

[00:29:19] and I,

[00:29:20] it felt flat to me.

[00:29:21] That's all I'm saying.

[00:29:22] I was going to say that Jeff Goldblum,

[00:29:24] the thing that forever amused me is that they give him,

[00:29:26] they gave him an entire show called the world,

[00:29:28] according to Jeff Goldblum.

[00:29:30] And I have no idea what that show is about.

[00:29:32] I don't have a clue.

[00:29:34] I don't know if it's like a documentary show or a comedy show,

[00:29:37] what the deal is,

[00:29:38] but they,

[00:29:39] they Disney plus as a flagship show was like Jeff Goldblum needs a show.

[00:29:43] Like they launched the service with that show.

[00:29:46] So he could do no wrong.

[00:29:48] Also,

[00:29:48] he's one of Rachel's gay dads on Glee.

[00:29:52] Yeah.

[00:29:52] Yeah.

[00:29:52] And that's how I know him.

[00:29:53] That's how I know him.

[00:29:55] What?

[00:29:56] That's how you know Jeff Goldblum?

[00:29:58] That's how I know him.

[00:29:58] That's how I found out about him.

[00:30:00] Jurassic Park?

[00:30:02] Well,

[00:30:03] Jurassic Park is scary.

[00:30:05] That's so fair.

[00:30:06] I mean,

[00:30:07] I watched Lee first,

[00:30:08] but then I watched Jurassic Park and then I knew him from that,

[00:30:12] but I knew him from Lee first.

[00:30:14] Not Independence Day.

[00:30:15] That's a good thing of you to say.

[00:30:16] Or Independence Day.

[00:30:17] That's a very,

[00:30:17] that's a very Gen Z thing.

[00:30:19] I've never seen Independence Day.

[00:30:20] So when I say welcome to Earth,

[00:30:22] you don't know what I'm talking about.

[00:30:24] That is so sad.

[00:30:25] No.

[00:30:27] Yeah.

[00:30:28] I only know.

[00:30:29] I'm a Disney Broadway person.

[00:30:29] Come on.

[00:30:30] I'm a Disney Broadway person.

[00:30:31] But,

[00:30:32] and it's,

[00:30:33] it's funny because I only know,

[00:30:35] I only know Wicked because of Glee.

[00:30:38] My,

[00:30:39] the first time I ever saw anything from Glee was when Kurt blew the high note

[00:30:42] in,

[00:30:43] in,

[00:30:43] in singing competition.

[00:30:44] And I was like,

[00:30:45] what is this song?

[00:30:46] I must know this.

[00:30:48] And then I,

[00:30:48] I,

[00:30:49] I,

[00:30:49] I looked up Defying Gravity.

[00:30:51] Defying Gravity is my favorite song from that musical.

[00:30:53] I know.

[00:30:53] It's everybody's favorite song.

[00:30:55] I mean,

[00:30:56] yes.

[00:30:56] The basic end.

[00:30:56] I also love,

[00:30:57] um,

[00:30:59] Oh,

[00:30:59] um,

[00:31:01] what's it called?

[00:31:03] For Good.

[00:31:03] I really liked For Good.

[00:31:05] For Good is a great song.

[00:31:07] Um,

[00:31:08] and then I'm a TikTok person.

[00:31:09] So I obviously know popular.

[00:31:13] I love how they staged both popular and,

[00:31:16] um,

[00:31:16] it's called,

[00:31:17] the song title is Loathing,

[00:31:18] correct?

[00:31:19] Yep.

[00:31:20] Yeah.

[00:31:20] I love how they staged.

[00:31:22] It's,

[00:31:22] it's,

[00:31:23] what is this feeling?

[00:31:23] What is this feeling?

[00:31:24] Yes,

[00:31:25] you're right.

[00:31:25] I love how they staged both of those songs.

[00:31:28] Yeah,

[00:31:29] I do too.

[00:31:30] Um,

[00:31:30] I will say though,

[00:31:32] people like online,

[00:31:35] like the,

[00:31:35] the,

[00:31:36] the videos on YouTube,

[00:31:37] people keep,

[00:31:38] keep,

[00:31:39] thinking that that's AI and it's not.

[00:31:43] What's AI?

[00:31:44] The,

[00:31:45] the quote,

[00:31:46] the,

[00:31:47] um,

[00:31:48] music vid,

[00:31:48] the,

[00:31:49] the music video short thing that,

[00:31:52] that they released.

[00:31:54] Oh,

[00:31:55] just like a clip from the number?

[00:31:56] Yeah.

[00:31:57] A clip from the number.

[00:31:57] They think that that's AI.

[00:32:01] And I'm like,

[00:32:02] no,

[00:32:03] it's not.

[00:32:05] I mean,

[00:32:06] there's a thing called skin paint.

[00:32:07] You can color someone green without AI.

[00:32:10] It's a thing that they did before in the thirties.

[00:32:14] Although granted that paint made people sick and caught on fire,

[00:32:17] but we've come a long way,

[00:32:18] but paint still exists.

[00:32:21] Yeah.

[00:32:22] Yeah,

[00:32:22] it did.

[00:32:22] It did make her very sick and catch on fire.

[00:32:25] Both.

[00:32:26] Yeah.

[00:32:27] That's a true fact.

[00:32:29] I want to actually go back to like,

[00:32:32] cause we were kind of talking about like little Easter eggs.

[00:32:35] Did you see the little Easter egg of like the,

[00:32:38] like,

[00:32:39] it was like a,

[00:32:40] of an open book,

[00:32:41] but then like the shadow of like the hands kind of,

[00:32:46] there's a specific photo of the OG wizard of Oz.

[00:32:51] Cause I'm blanking on her name.

[00:32:56] The wicked witch.

[00:32:57] Of the wicked witch from the wizard of Oz.

[00:33:00] I'm blanking on her name,

[00:33:01] but.

[00:33:02] The actress.

[00:33:03] I can look that up.

[00:33:04] Margaret.

[00:33:05] The actress.

[00:33:05] Margaret.

[00:33:06] Margaret.

[00:33:07] Margaret.

[00:33:07] Thank you.

[00:33:08] And.

[00:33:09] She,

[00:33:10] she does.

[00:33:11] Like,

[00:33:12] like,

[00:33:12] like she does that.

[00:33:13] And that exact shape in that book.

[00:33:16] Is.

[00:33:17] Like,

[00:33:18] like that exact shadow is in that book.

[00:33:21] Oh,

[00:33:22] well,

[00:33:22] nice.

[00:33:22] Margaret Hamilton.

[00:33:23] An actor.

[00:33:24] So,

[00:33:24] so convincing that she had to go on Mr.

[00:33:26] Rogers to convince people that she wasn't evil.

[00:33:29] Yeah,

[00:33:30] she did.

[00:33:30] I remember that.

[00:33:31] Yeah.

[00:33:32] I'm a good person.

[00:33:34] Actually.

[00:33:35] I remember that.

[00:33:36] That was not that.

[00:33:37] And not that bitch that played Glinda.

[00:33:39] Yeah.

[00:33:40] Yeah.

[00:33:40] she was,

[00:33:40] she actually mean.

[00:33:41] Those always make me.

[00:33:42] She,

[00:33:43] you know,

[00:33:43] she was,

[00:33:43] she was apparently very mean to people,

[00:33:45] particularly the little people that were playing the munchkins.

[00:33:48] Allegedly.

[00:33:49] I,

[00:33:49] I wasn't there.

[00:33:50] I wasn't alive in the 30s.

[00:33:52] So.

[00:33:52] To be fair,

[00:33:53] that,

[00:33:53] that movie had a whole host of problems.

[00:33:56] Oh,

[00:33:57] ah,

[00:33:57] God.

[00:33:58] Yeah.

[00:33:59] How many Easter eggs did you spot Jake?

[00:34:03] Oh,

[00:34:03] gosh.

[00:34:03] I don't know.

[00:34:04] Cause I'm going to be honest.

[00:34:05] I was actually able to really enjoy this movie.

[00:34:08] Um,

[00:34:08] normal,

[00:34:09] normally when I watch movies,

[00:34:10] I'm,

[00:34:11] I'm not necessarily looking for things,

[00:34:13] but I'm kind of like grading it in my head.

[00:34:14] It's just something that I do.

[00:34:16] Um,

[00:34:17] it became very clear that this movie was going to be good right out of the gate

[00:34:21] that I kind of stopped grading it and started really,

[00:34:24] really enjoying it pretty early on.

[00:34:26] So I don't know.

[00:34:27] I saw some stuff.

[00:34:29] IE.

[00:34:30] Like I recognized,

[00:34:31] um,

[00:34:33] I'm curious what they're,

[00:34:34] I'm curious what they're going to do with the shoes.

[00:34:36] But like,

[00:34:36] for example,

[00:34:37] I noticed,

[00:34:37] I noticed Fiero's whole,

[00:34:38] like dancing like a scarecrow.

[00:34:40] I noticed Bach Woodsman.

[00:34:42] Obviously,

[00:34:42] we know the lion cub is the cowardly lion.

[00:34:46] Did you see in the beginning,

[00:34:50] before they do the title card where they had Dorothy,

[00:34:55] the wizard of the,

[00:34:56] uh,

[00:34:57] they had them walking the yellow bear road.

[00:35:00] Yeah.

[00:35:00] They were skipping.

[00:35:01] Although wasn't the timing off on that because,

[00:35:03] Oh no,

[00:35:04] they were going back to,

[00:35:05] the Emerald city.

[00:35:05] Nevermind.

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:07] I forgot.

[00:35:07] I forgot to go twice.

[00:35:08] Yes.

[00:35:08] You're correct.

[00:35:09] Yep.

[00:35:09] Movie's correct.

[00:35:11] And then there's the poppy flowers that.

[00:35:15] Yes.

[00:35:15] The poppies.

[00:35:16] Yep.

[00:35:16] And they put people to sleep.

[00:35:18] So that's a thing.

[00:35:19] Yeah.

[00:35:20] So,

[00:35:20] okay.

[00:35:21] So in terms of the second half of this thing,

[00:35:23] is it literally just the second half of the play now?

[00:35:26] Like,

[00:35:26] are they going to have to add more stuff?

[00:35:28] Yes.

[00:35:29] No,

[00:35:29] I would guess.

[00:35:30] I mean,

[00:35:30] they added stuff to the first half too.

[00:35:32] So that's how they got the elongated run time.

[00:35:35] Do we know that the second one going to be equally as long or is it going to be short,

[00:35:39] shorter?

[00:35:40] I would imagine they'll go for a similar length because I mean,

[00:35:42] defying gravity is right in the middle.

[00:35:45] Yeah.

[00:35:46] Cause I know that that's where it ends.

[00:35:48] The that's for intermission.

[00:35:49] That's where it goes intermission.

[00:35:51] Which I was saying to Haley earlier.

[00:35:52] That's,

[00:35:53] I kind of love that because like,

[00:35:55] yeah,

[00:35:55] it's like we're in a really long intermission between movies,

[00:35:58] which when they,

[00:35:59] I mean,

[00:36:00] we are.

[00:36:00] And I told Justin,

[00:36:01] I hate that because I'm not,

[00:36:04] I don't want to wait a damn one year.

[00:36:07] Well,

[00:36:07] here is it,

[00:36:08] is it only one year?

[00:36:09] Cause I thought,

[00:36:10] I thought they wish it,

[00:36:11] cause isn't it a three year time jump in the play?

[00:36:14] Yeah.

[00:36:15] Yeah.

[00:36:16] I think they should make people wait three years.

[00:36:18] I do.

[00:36:19] You shut your mouth.

[00:36:21] No,

[00:36:21] because actually,

[00:36:23] I think,

[00:36:24] no,

[00:36:24] see that's,

[00:36:24] that's too,

[00:36:25] it's too,

[00:36:26] that's too quick of a payoff.

[00:36:27] I like waiting for shit.

[00:36:29] I want the actors.

[00:36:31] I want the actors to actually look older and not have to be digitally aged up or.

[00:36:36] But they already filmed it all.

[00:36:40] Well,

[00:36:41] they didn't ask me.

[00:36:42] Refilm it.

[00:36:43] Go back and reshoot it.

[00:36:44] Cause all the,

[00:36:45] all the garbage you did already is inadmissible.

[00:36:49] Bin it.

[00:36:49] Bin it.

[00:36:50] It's trash.

[00:36:51] Are Rihanna,

[00:36:52] Cynthia,

[00:36:52] yeah,

[00:36:53] I am sorry for the,

[00:36:54] those,

[00:36:54] those two.

[00:36:56] Oh,

[00:36:56] don't be mad,

[00:36:57] Ariana.

[00:36:57] I thought you were stellar.

[00:37:00] It looks good.

[00:37:01] I want to watch it.

[00:37:02] It's on my list.

[00:37:03] I'm excited.

[00:37:04] I'm excited to,

[00:37:06] and I know that we've seen like Ariana in the bubble dress in the,

[00:37:10] in like the first scene,

[00:37:12] but I'm excited to see like the whole thing.

[00:37:16] Like when she goes upstairs.

[00:37:19] Do you guys think that once part two comes out,

[00:37:22] they'll do like a four hour,

[00:37:25] like special edition where it's both parts combined into one.

[00:37:29] Oh,

[00:37:29] I would love that.

[00:37:30] Oh yeah.

[00:37:31] You have to,

[00:37:32] you have to please.

[00:37:33] And then they do.

[00:37:34] You absolutely do.

[00:37:35] Yeah.

[00:37:36] I mean,

[00:37:37] yeah.

[00:37:37] And am I going to see it again next weekend?

[00:37:39] Yes.

[00:37:40] How are you guys feeling?

[00:37:41] Do you think this is going to see some awards attention?

[00:37:44] Oh,

[00:37:45] yeah,

[00:37:45] I think so.

[00:37:48] Ariana is like the first one on the list for an Oscar.

[00:37:54] So the only reason I think she might not win an Oscar is because she is,

[00:37:57] and I don't mean this disparagingly because I,

[00:38:00] I understand it.

[00:38:01] I'm not going to say she's copying because,

[00:38:03] she doesn't do everything that Kristen Chenoweth did.

[00:38:06] But to me,

[00:38:06] an Oscar would probably go to somebody that's not really doing an homage to a

[00:38:12] previously acted part.

[00:38:13] If that makes sense.

[00:38:15] I,

[00:38:16] I,

[00:38:16] that makes sense to me.

[00:38:17] You want something transformative.

[00:38:18] The Academy loves transformation.

[00:38:20] They're big about transformation.

[00:38:22] If it's too similar to,

[00:38:23] and also just my,

[00:38:24] my thing would be,

[00:38:25] is it,

[00:38:25] is it too mainstream because it's a musical?

[00:38:28] It being a,

[00:38:29] but like a musicals used to be big Oscar winners.

[00:38:31] Right.

[00:38:31] But they've become kind of like.

[00:38:34] I,

[00:38:34] I,

[00:38:35] a cultural joke.

[00:38:36] Almost like,

[00:38:37] I was saying to Haley,

[00:38:38] I'm proud that this thing advertised itself as a musical and succeeded as a

[00:38:42] musical.

[00:38:43] Like it didn't,

[00:38:43] it didn't.

[00:38:44] Cause the common trend now is to hide the fact that you're a musical,

[00:38:47] but I know you said that they,

[00:38:48] you don't think they could have,

[00:38:49] but they could have tried.

[00:38:50] Mean Girls.

[00:38:51] Mean Girls kid.

[00:38:53] I roll my eyes.

[00:38:55] I guess I'm,

[00:38:55] now I'm getting so mad.

[00:38:57] Thank you,

[00:38:57] Justin.

[00:38:57] Thanks for being mad again.

[00:39:00] Hit the fact that it's a musical.

[00:39:01] I do that.

[00:39:02] I'm good at that.

[00:39:02] I'm so mad now.

[00:39:04] You know,

[00:39:04] me with my classic hot takes.

[00:39:07] Classic hot takes.

[00:39:09] Okay.

[00:39:10] And then I told Justin,

[00:39:11] my hot take.

[00:39:13] I,

[00:39:15] and I think I,

[00:39:16] we just said,

[00:39:16] I just said that earlier,

[00:39:17] but I must,

[00:39:18] I'll say it again.

[00:39:19] I liked,

[00:39:19] I loved the movie way more.

[00:39:23] Hmm.

[00:39:26] We don't know what this is,

[00:39:27] by the way.

[00:39:29] This isn't the soundtrack.

[00:39:31] What is,

[00:39:32] oh my God.

[00:39:32] This is,

[00:39:34] what is it?

[00:39:35] This is a bootleg of the original Broadway production.

[00:39:38] I hate you so much.

[00:39:40] Give me that.

[00:39:42] I can,

[00:39:43] I may or may not be able to make you a comic.

[00:39:46] Please do,

[00:39:47] please do.

[00:39:47] Oh my God,

[00:39:48] please do.

[00:39:49] I will.

[00:39:50] Like a pro shot.

[00:39:50] More than I do now.

[00:39:52] It's,

[00:39:52] it's,

[00:39:52] it's not a pro shot,

[00:39:53] but it's,

[00:39:54] it's well done considering somebody snuck a camera into a theater.

[00:39:58] Interesting.

[00:39:58] It's not bad.

[00:39:59] It sounds,

[00:40:00] it sounds actually pretty good too.

[00:40:01] I was kind of surprised.

[00:40:02] And this is in 2003.

[00:40:05] So that's incredible.

[00:40:07] That's,

[00:40:07] that's,

[00:40:08] yeah,

[00:40:08] that's original cast.

[00:40:08] Was that you and I'm kidding?

[00:40:09] It was like,

[00:40:10] no,

[00:40:10] it wasn't me.

[00:40:11] No,

[00:40:12] on Broadway.

[00:40:13] Yeah,

[00:40:13] no.

[00:40:14] Let's see.

[00:40:14] This was during,

[00:40:21] yep.

[00:40:22] Yep.

[00:40:22] I thought it's,

[00:40:23] that's,

[00:40:23] I've seen most of Avenue Q and most of Avenue Q dear Evan Hansen and a book of Mormon is because of good old fashioned bootlegging.

[00:40:32] Cause I found a bootleg on YouTube,

[00:40:35] but it's like all like different angles.

[00:40:39] And I'm like,

[00:40:39] Oh,

[00:40:39] see,

[00:40:40] this is,

[00:40:40] this is our one angle and you're not,

[00:40:42] you're not at a really sharp angle.

[00:40:44] You're almost even with the stage.

[00:40:47] You're like a little off kilter,

[00:40:48] but not enough to be distracting.

[00:40:50] Yeah.

[00:40:51] And there's only,

[00:40:52] there's only one time where they put the camera down for like a split second because somebody came by.

[00:40:57] Like,

[00:40:57] like,

[00:40:57] like mine is just like,

[00:40:59] like my boot,

[00:41:01] bootleg that I watched was like different,

[00:41:05] like angles of everything.

[00:41:06] I'm like,

[00:41:07] we don't need different.

[00:41:09] Well,

[00:41:09] see,

[00:41:11] I also really think they should do a,

[00:41:14] and I'm sure they have one somewhere of like a professionally filmed and edited original Broadway production.

[00:41:22] Absolutely.

[00:41:23] I think they should release that.

[00:41:24] They need to.

[00:41:25] I'm,

[00:41:26] I mean,

[00:41:26] we're seeing more and more,

[00:41:28] I guess because they're,

[00:41:29] they're discovering there's financial viability.

[00:41:31] Cause I understand the hesitation to do pro shots.

[00:41:34] Like I totally get it.

[00:41:35] It,

[00:41:35] they,

[00:41:36] when their mind,

[00:41:36] it discourages people from going to the actual show and it,

[00:41:39] but it's like for someone like me,

[00:41:41] who lives on the West coast.

[00:41:43] Well,

[00:41:43] if you do it 21 years later too,

[00:41:45] it's like,

[00:41:46] yeah,

[00:41:47] I'm,

[00:41:47] I,

[00:41:47] I can't go watch something on Broadway.

[00:41:49] So yeah,

[00:41:49] it's the only chance I'm going to get to experience Broadway.

[00:41:52] And I really liked that.

[00:41:53] They're filling these pro shots and they're putting them in theaters.

[00:41:55] Like I think because you,

[00:41:57] yeah,

[00:41:57] for wicked,

[00:41:58] get a pro shot out there,

[00:41:59] put it in theaters as a companion piece.

[00:42:01] People would show up for it.

[00:42:03] Yeah.

[00:42:03] Oh,

[00:42:03] I would,

[00:42:04] I would have.

[00:42:05] Like I say,

[00:42:06] like the movie literally boost up Broadway ticket sales.

[00:42:12] Yeah.

[00:42:12] So exactly.

[00:42:13] Here's a question.

[00:42:15] You're,

[00:42:16] if you could take one musical that hasn't already been adapted into a film,

[00:42:20] what would you do?

[00:42:22] Yeah.

[00:42:22] I get a little pill.

[00:42:24] Ooh,

[00:42:25] good choice.

[00:42:26] Book of Mormon.

[00:42:26] You could do like a,

[00:42:27] you could do like a,

[00:42:28] yeah.

[00:42:28] Book of Mormon needs to be a movie.

[00:42:30] Yeah.

[00:42:31] Book of Mormon.

[00:42:31] Oh my God.

[00:42:32] Book of Mormon needs to be burned.

[00:42:35] I disagree.

[00:42:36] Yeah.

[00:42:36] She has,

[00:42:36] she doesn't like Book of Mormon,

[00:42:37] Jake.

[00:42:38] I hate it.

[00:42:38] Well,

[00:42:39] you see,

[00:42:39] Justin,

[00:42:40] she doesn't believe.

[00:42:41] He doesn't believe that the Lord God has created the universe.

[00:42:44] I believe it's garbage.

[00:42:48] Look,

[00:42:50] ancient Jews built boats and sailed to America.

[00:42:55] I fully believe they could get the original cast back.

[00:42:58] The nice thing about that is like,

[00:43:00] they're,

[00:43:01] they're not age dependent characters.

[00:43:03] So absolutely.

[00:43:04] Andrew Reynolds and Josh Gad are like hot right now.

[00:43:08] Um,

[00:43:08] yeah,

[00:43:09] I fully believe you could.

[00:43:10] I mean,

[00:43:10] they're making a movie with Kendrick Lamar that they're currently filming.

[00:43:13] I only know Josh Gad from frozen.

[00:43:15] And then I hate frozen.

[00:43:16] Yeah.

[00:43:16] See,

[00:43:16] this is before Josh Gad hit it big.

[00:43:19] Yeah.

[00:43:19] This is when,

[00:43:20] this is when he was slumming it.

[00:43:22] Yeah.

[00:43:22] I never was at that point,

[00:43:24] but yeah,

[00:43:24] he wasn't,

[00:43:24] he wasn't super bad.

[00:43:25] I didn't know who he was until frozen.

[00:43:27] So.

[00:43:28] I'm like,

[00:43:29] I'm like,

[00:43:29] I'm like,

[00:43:29] I'm like,

[00:43:29] Book of Mormon has entered my consciousness so much that anytime somebody answers the phone

[00:43:33] and goes,

[00:43:34] hello,

[00:43:34] I'm like,

[00:43:35] hello,

[00:43:36] my name is Elder Price.

[00:43:38] And I would like to,

[00:43:39] my favorite version of that is,

[00:43:41] um,

[00:43:41] of that song.

[00:43:42] Is,

[00:43:43] um,

[00:43:44] there's a Tony performance where they have some of the original cast and the,

[00:43:48] um,

[00:43:49] the,

[00:43:49] the,

[00:43:49] the guy who does the initial hello,

[00:43:51] my name is Elder Grant.

[00:43:54] And I would like to share,

[00:43:56] and he just does it so creepy and aggressively.

[00:43:58] And I would like to share with you the most amazing.

[00:44:02] I've talked to so many Mormons because of that musical.

[00:44:05] Just straight up.

[00:44:06] Their shtick is they do it creepy.

[00:44:09] Not really.

[00:44:10] It depends on the Mormon you talk to.

[00:44:12] But.

[00:44:16] I,

[00:44:16] I,

[00:44:17] there was one.

[00:44:17] Sorry.

[00:44:18] Good.

[00:44:18] We'll respond quickly.

[00:44:20] I'll say that.

[00:44:21] Yeah.

[00:44:21] Like there was one,

[00:44:22] one time,

[00:44:23] one of them stopped me on the street and like,

[00:44:26] they clearly asked a hundred people and I was just avoiding,

[00:44:29] looking to avoid going home for some reason.

[00:44:31] And they're like,

[00:44:32] Oh,

[00:44:32] would you like to talk to us about,

[00:44:33] about,

[00:44:34] you know,

[00:44:34] whatever.

[00:44:35] And I was like,

[00:44:35] sure.

[00:44:36] And they're like,

[00:44:37] Oh,

[00:44:38] Oh,

[00:44:38] Oh,

[00:44:39] we weren't prepared for this.

[00:44:40] We keep getting Mormons at our door.

[00:44:42] And they asked us that.

[00:44:44] And my mom literally goes,

[00:44:46] no,

[00:44:47] we're good.

[00:44:47] And then the shut's no.

[00:44:49] How do you think I got this?

[00:44:51] Yeah.

[00:44:51] Look,

[00:44:52] it's a,

[00:44:52] it's a wild book.

[00:44:54] Oh,

[00:44:54] you got it.

[00:44:54] Oh,

[00:44:55] it's yeah.

[00:44:55] It's wild.

[00:44:56] And I mean,

[00:44:58] kind of case in point.

[00:44:59] So most versions,

[00:45:01] how do we get into Book of Mormon?

[00:45:03] Because they sing too.

[00:45:05] They sing.

[00:45:05] They sing too.

[00:45:07] In a,

[00:45:07] in a hammer style musical.

[00:45:09] If you would like just sort of a synopsis of,

[00:45:12] you know,

[00:45:13] the church of Latter-day saints,

[00:45:14] because fun fact,

[00:45:15] they actually do not like to be called Mormons.

[00:45:17] They do not.

[00:45:18] No,

[00:45:18] they don't.

[00:45:19] This kind of perfectly encapsulates it right there.

[00:45:22] But they also love the Book of Mormon.

[00:45:24] Ironically.

[00:45:26] Ironically.

[00:45:27] Yeah.

[00:45:28] Yeah.

[00:45:28] So if you can't tell,

[00:45:30] it's a little blurry.

[00:45:31] That's Jesus amidst a bunch of white people and Native Americans simultaneously.

[00:45:35] Yes.

[00:45:35] Yes,

[00:45:35] it is.

[00:45:36] Because that's somewhere in Missouri.

[00:45:39] Yep.

[00:45:39] That's what they believe.

[00:45:41] Oh,

[00:45:42] that's enough.

[00:45:42] That Jesus came to America.

[00:45:44] Yep.

[00:45:45] The best,

[00:45:45] the best.

[00:45:45] And the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County,

[00:45:48] Missouri.

[00:45:49] Jackson County,

[00:45:50] The episode of South Park,

[00:45:52] where the family tells the story,

[00:45:53] that's apparently unbelievably accurate.

[00:45:56] Right.

[00:45:56] Of course.

[00:45:57] Yeah.

[00:45:57] No,

[00:45:57] that's,

[00:45:57] that's,

[00:45:58] that's pretty,

[00:45:58] that's pretty legit.

[00:45:59] Although,

[00:46:00] Dustin,

[00:46:00] we're becoming the problem.

[00:46:01] We're becoming the problem.

[00:46:03] You are.

[00:46:04] The veil between her world and the other realm has faded,

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[00:46:17] Tori James discovers a world transform.

[00:46:20] For some,

[00:46:21] like Tori,

[00:46:23] the unveiling ignites hidden abilities.

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[00:46:36] Join Tori on her magical journey in book one of the unveiled book series,

[00:46:40] Revival.

[00:46:44] Unveil your destiny.

[00:46:50] You're wicked,

[00:46:51] wicked,

[00:46:52] wicked,

[00:46:53] wicked.

[00:46:53] Part two coming.

[00:46:54] Oh,

[00:46:55] I did,

[00:46:55] did love the way they did.

[00:46:58] No one mourns the wicked.

[00:47:00] That was a really good number.

[00:47:02] And can I just say this though?

[00:47:04] Like,

[00:47:04] no,

[00:47:08] I'm sorry.

[00:47:09] I have to do that.

[00:47:10] Every time somebody says that,

[00:47:11] I just,

[00:47:11] no,

[00:47:13] I can't,

[00:47:13] I can't resist.

[00:47:14] I never can.

[00:47:16] I really was the same reaction too,

[00:47:17] because they don't,

[00:47:18] they're like half listening.

[00:47:19] And then they realize,

[00:47:20] wait,

[00:47:20] did he just say no?

[00:47:26] Please continue.

[00:47:29] You may,

[00:47:29] you may.

[00:47:30] I don't know if I want to.

[00:47:31] Oh,

[00:47:31] well,

[00:47:32] nevermind.

[00:47:35] You asshole.

[00:47:39] Did I make you lose your thoughts?

[00:47:41] Legitimately?

[00:47:42] Yes.

[00:47:46] I will say this one thing.

[00:47:48] Um,

[00:47:50] it is a kick to the gut.

[00:47:52] When,

[00:47:53] um,

[00:47:54] they,

[00:47:55] like,

[00:47:56] they literally

[00:47:58] hand Glinda

[00:48:00] the,

[00:48:00] um,

[00:48:02] lit torch

[00:48:02] to throw at the

[00:48:04] gigantic

[00:48:05] witch.

[00:48:06] And I'm like,

[00:48:08] yeah.

[00:48:08] And,

[00:48:08] and Ariana has a couple of moments

[00:48:11] where her facial expressions

[00:48:12] were,

[00:48:14] I mean,

[00:48:14] top notch,

[00:48:15] because they let you know

[00:48:16] that this is very much

[00:48:17] an act for her.

[00:48:18] And she has to keep,

[00:48:19] you know,

[00:48:20] the,

[00:48:21] the,

[00:48:21] the facade up.

[00:48:22] But that,

[00:48:23] that brings a good question.

[00:48:25] Uh,

[00:48:26] where in this movie

[00:48:26] did you cry?

[00:48:29] So I want,

[00:48:29] I wonder if we share

[00:48:30] some of those

[00:48:32] moments.

[00:48:33] Um,

[00:48:33] I cried at

[00:48:34] No One Warnes

[00:48:35] the Wicked.

[00:48:36] I cried at,

[00:48:39] um,

[00:48:40] the,

[00:48:40] I cried at

[00:48:41] The Wizard of Nine.

[00:48:44] Really?

[00:48:45] Okay.

[00:48:45] Yes.

[00:48:46] And then I definitely

[00:48:47] cried at

[00:48:48] Defiant Gravity.

[00:48:51] So I got,

[00:48:52] I wouldn't say I cried,

[00:48:53] but I got,

[00:48:54] I got really emotional

[00:48:55] in the,

[00:48:56] because it was quite a bit

[00:48:56] darker

[00:48:57] in the movie

[00:48:58] than on the stage play

[00:48:59] when,

[00:48:59] uh,

[00:49:00] Dr. Dillman flips the board

[00:49:01] and it says animals

[00:49:02] should be seen,

[00:49:03] not heard.

[00:49:03] And then subsequently

[00:49:04] the scene where he's

[00:49:05] taken out,

[00:49:06] because in the movie

[00:49:07] we actually see that

[00:49:08] as opposed to in the

[00:49:09] stage play,

[00:49:10] it's just mentioned.

[00:49:12] Yeah.

[00:49:13] Um,

[00:49:14] is it just mentioned

[00:49:15] or I thought it was,

[00:49:16] they showed,

[00:49:17] they showed that.

[00:49:18] Him actually being

[00:49:19] dragged out of the room?

[00:49:19] I don't think so.

[00:49:21] I feel like they do.

[00:49:22] I think they do.

[00:49:22] It's been a minute.

[00:49:23] It's been a minute.

[00:49:24] So you,

[00:49:24] like I may very well

[00:49:26] be wrong,

[00:49:26] but I could have sworn

[00:49:28] that they come to class

[00:49:30] and then Dr. Dillman

[00:49:31] is just not there.

[00:49:32] But I could be wrong.

[00:49:34] So,

[00:49:34] I'm sure someone

[00:49:35] in the comments

[00:49:35] will correct me

[00:49:36] lethally.

[00:49:37] So,

[00:49:38] who,

[00:49:38] who's James Corden?

[00:49:41] He's the movie.

[00:49:42] No,

[00:49:43] he wasn't.

[00:49:44] This movie's too good

[00:49:45] for him.

[00:49:46] Peter Dinklage is

[00:49:48] Dr. Dillman.

[00:49:48] That's why his

[00:49:49] voice sounded so,

[00:49:51] I'm like,

[00:49:51] I know this voice.

[00:49:52] Peter Dinklage,

[00:49:53] it's Peter,

[00:49:53] Peter Dinklage

[00:49:54] is Dr. Dillman.

[00:49:56] Oh,

[00:49:56] I was like,

[00:49:57] oh,

[00:49:57] I was just hearing Tyrion.

[00:49:59] Wasn't James Corden

[00:50:00] supposed to be?

[00:50:00] I swear to God

[00:50:01] he was supposed to be.

[00:50:02] No,

[00:50:02] James Corden

[00:50:03] should have been

[00:50:03] as far away

[00:50:05] from this

[00:50:05] and any other

[00:50:06] legitimate production

[00:50:07] as possible.

[00:50:08] He was supposed

[00:50:08] to be the goat man.

[00:50:09] Whoever the goat man was.

[00:50:11] No,

[00:50:11] James Corden

[00:50:12] needs to be

[00:50:13] way

[00:50:14] far away.

[00:50:15] Go back to England.

[00:50:17] He is in England.

[00:50:19] Good.

[00:50:19] Stay there.

[00:50:21] Yeah,

[00:50:21] he's all in England.

[00:50:21] That sounded really,

[00:50:22] I was going to say

[00:50:23] that sounded

[00:50:24] really xenophobic,

[00:50:25] but it's England,

[00:50:26] so fuck them.

[00:50:27] I mean,

[00:50:27] they kind of invented

[00:50:29] going where they don't belong.

[00:50:30] He moved back to England

[00:50:32] when he,

[00:50:32] uh,

[00:50:33] When he got fired?

[00:50:34] No,

[00:50:35] when his show ended.

[00:50:37] Yeah,

[00:50:37] when he got fired.

[00:50:38] He got fired?

[00:50:39] I didn't know that.

[00:50:39] They canceled his show.

[00:50:41] I,

[00:50:41] well,

[00:50:42] he left it.

[00:50:44] He says he left it,

[00:50:45] but,

[00:50:45] uh,

[00:50:45] I prefer to think

[00:50:46] that he was,

[00:50:47] that he quit under

[00:50:48] the rest.

[00:50:50] He,

[00:50:50] yeah,

[00:50:50] he supposedly quit.

[00:50:54] Oh,

[00:50:54] he's,

[00:50:54] he's just a,

[00:50:56] oh,

[00:50:57] he's awful.

[00:50:58] He's a dreadful human being.

[00:51:00] Even him as,

[00:51:02] um,

[00:51:04] Mistoffele is in the cat movie.

[00:51:06] Uh,

[00:51:07] I'm going to watch the cat movie

[00:51:08] for an episode of the show.

[00:51:11] Man,

[00:51:11] you do like to,

[00:51:12] do I have to?

[00:51:16] What?

[00:51:16] Do I have to watch the cat movie?

[00:51:20] I don't want to.

[00:51:21] I,

[00:51:22] I'm going to do it for an episode

[00:51:23] of our show.

[00:51:24] Where I,

[00:51:24] it was,

[00:51:25] I was,

[00:51:26] it was,

[00:51:26] um,

[00:51:27] the Rotten Tomatoes episode

[00:51:28] we were doing movies

[00:51:29] that were zero percent

[00:51:29] on Rotten Tomatoes.

[00:51:30] I thought you,

[00:51:31] I thought,

[00:51:31] I thought you said that

[00:51:32] do we bought an episode

[00:51:34] for this podcast?

[00:51:36] And I'm like,

[00:51:37] do I,

[00:51:37] do I have to?

[00:51:39] No.

[00:51:39] And the thing is,

[00:51:40] I would,

[00:51:41] this is a matter of principle

[00:51:43] because I've not watched it,

[00:51:45] but I,

[00:51:46] I,

[00:51:46] I have heard people

[00:51:48] whose opinion I care about

[00:51:50] when it comes to theater.

[00:51:51] Yeah.

[00:51:52] Say they watched it

[00:51:52] and they've all said

[00:51:53] the same thing

[00:51:54] is that whoever made

[00:51:54] this monstrosity of a movie

[00:51:56] does not understand cats

[00:51:57] as a production.

[00:51:59] Yeah.

[00:51:59] No,

[00:51:59] my question about cats

[00:52:00] is it's animated.

[00:52:04] But it's not.

[00:52:05] Before we get back into,

[00:52:06] before we get back into Wicked,

[00:52:08] I will say this one thing.

[00:52:09] Um,

[00:52:11] have you heard the rumor

[00:52:12] of how Andrew Lloyd Webber

[00:52:16] went to go see this movie

[00:52:17] and immediately

[00:52:18] bought himself

[00:52:20] a support dog

[00:52:21] because

[00:52:22] of this movie?

[00:52:23] Oh,

[00:52:24] I've never heard that from you.

[00:52:25] Of Wicked?

[00:52:26] Yeah.

[00:52:27] Of Cat TV?

[00:52:27] Oh,

[00:52:28] you heard it from me?

[00:52:28] Yeah.

[00:52:29] Okay.

[00:52:29] I remember I told you that.

[00:52:30] Yeah.

[00:52:31] Sorry,

[00:52:31] he needed a support animal

[00:52:32] for cats?

[00:52:33] Yep.

[00:52:33] Because it's so bad?

[00:52:34] I can see that.

[00:52:36] That movie's horrifying.

[00:52:37] No,

[00:52:37] but just,

[00:52:38] my point is,

[00:52:39] why is it not like a Pixar style?

[00:52:40] Because I watched a bunch

[00:52:41] behind the scenes.

[00:52:42] Seems like it would be suited

[00:52:43] for like a Pixar DreamWorks

[00:52:46] style of animated movie.

[00:52:48] My problem is-

[00:52:48] Where it's like

[00:52:49] Anthropor for cats

[00:52:50] in a cartoon sense.

[00:52:52] Not a movie.

[00:52:53] My problem with it,

[00:52:55] my problem with it is,

[00:52:56] is why was it CGI

[00:52:58] and why wasn't it

[00:53:00] like live action?

[00:53:00] Yeah.

[00:53:01] Just,

[00:53:02] no,

[00:53:02] I mean,

[00:53:03] sorry.

[00:53:03] So,

[00:53:03] cats is one of those

[00:53:05] productions where

[00:53:06] you almost can't make it

[00:53:07] into a movie

[00:53:08] because the whole spectacle

[00:53:10] is the fact that

[00:53:11] it's people,

[00:53:13] I'm not even going to say

[00:53:14] dressed as cats

[00:53:15] because the makeup

[00:53:15] is integral to the costume

[00:53:17] as a whole.

[00:53:18] Yeah.

[00:53:18] And that's sort of

[00:53:19] the thing.

[00:53:20] Like,

[00:53:20] that's the thing.

[00:53:22] So,

[00:53:22] if you do it live action,

[00:53:23] you're just imitating

[00:53:24] the stage play.

[00:53:25] And if you do it animated,

[00:53:27] then you would,

[00:53:28] like,

[00:53:28] you wouldn't animate

[00:53:29] human cats,

[00:53:30] you would animate cats.

[00:53:32] Yeah.

[00:53:33] It eliminates the spectacle

[00:53:35] because if you take

[00:53:35] the spectacle out of it,

[00:53:37] it's a really kind of

[00:53:38] a lame-ass story.

[00:53:39] It's essentially about

[00:53:41] an old bat

[00:53:42] that wants to get touched

[00:53:44] at the end of the day.

[00:53:46] I mean,

[00:53:46] that's basically it.

[00:53:47] It's the spectacle

[00:53:48] of it all.

[00:53:50] Yeah.

[00:53:50] And the audience part,

[00:53:51] that's why they look

[00:53:52] the way they do

[00:53:53] is because they're trying

[00:53:53] to find a way

[00:53:54] to marry

[00:53:55] how they look

[00:53:56] in the play

[00:53:56] with making them

[00:53:57] look like real cats.

[00:53:58] And it just winds up

[00:54:00] in this uncanny valley,

[00:54:01] like,

[00:54:02] monstrosity of a movie

[00:54:03] that makes no one happy.

[00:54:05] And to go back to,

[00:54:06] to go back to Wicked,

[00:54:08] I think that's the strength

[00:54:09] of this movie

[00:54:10] is it looks like the thing.

[00:54:12] Like,

[00:54:12] I just,

[00:54:13] I know that.

[00:54:13] It looks like the thing.

[00:54:14] I don't know,

[00:54:15] like,

[00:54:15] people don't seem

[00:54:16] to appreciate

[00:54:17] how much looking

[00:54:18] like the thing.

[00:54:18] Like,

[00:54:19] so many people

[00:54:20] don't want it to,

[00:54:21] but,

[00:54:21] me and Jordan

[00:54:22] talked about,

[00:54:23] it's off topic,

[00:54:24] but,

[00:54:24] how do you guys

[00:54:25] feel about that

[00:54:26] How to Train Your Dragon

[00:54:27] live action movie?

[00:54:28] I thought it was cute.

[00:54:30] My only thing,

[00:54:31] and they did it,

[00:54:32] is if you're gonna do that,

[00:54:34] you have to have

[00:54:35] Jerry Butler as

[00:54:36] Stoic the Vast.

[00:54:37] And they did.

[00:54:38] So I'm okay with it.

[00:54:39] Because me and Jordan

[00:54:40] are just kinda like,

[00:54:41] it looks identical

[00:54:42] to the animated movie.

[00:54:43] What's the point?

[00:54:46] Because the,

[00:54:46] because they'll sell tickets,

[00:54:48] basically.

[00:54:49] That's,

[00:54:49] that's,

[00:54:50] that's what it is.

[00:54:50] That's the thing.

[00:54:52] Well,

[00:54:52] because How to Train Your Dragon

[00:54:53] is,

[00:54:54] I mean,

[00:54:56] so I came to it

[00:54:57] kinda late,

[00:54:58] because I was on a,

[00:54:59] when How to Train Your Dragon

[00:55:01] came out,

[00:55:01] I don't remember why,

[00:55:02] I was very,

[00:55:03] in my mind,

[00:55:04] because it wasn't consciously,

[00:55:05] I was very not into

[00:55:07] DreamWorks at that point,

[00:55:08] because they hadn't really

[00:55:09] been putting out anything

[00:55:10] that I cared for.

[00:55:12] And then,

[00:55:13] forget how I,

[00:55:15] I fluke,

[00:55:16] I watched it,

[00:55:16] and I was like,

[00:55:17] wow,

[00:55:17] this is actually a really,

[00:55:18] really good movie.

[00:55:19] And then by the time

[00:55:20] How to Train Your Dragon 2

[00:55:21] came out,

[00:55:22] which I did cry,

[00:55:23] during,

[00:55:24] not gonna lie,

[00:55:25] because I'm okay

[00:55:26] with my emotions.

[00:55:27] I'm fine with it,

[00:55:28] by the way.

[00:55:29] I was saying before,

[00:55:30] I didn't cry during the scene

[00:55:31] with Dr. Dillamon,

[00:55:32] but I did feel the emotion,

[00:55:33] but I did,

[00:55:34] I shed a couple tears

[00:55:36] for Defying Gravity.

[00:55:38] That was a thing

[00:55:39] that happened,

[00:55:39] and I'm totally okay with it.

[00:55:41] I didn't shed a couple tears,

[00:55:42] I flowed a river.

[00:55:44] I,

[00:55:45] when I saw a clip of that,

[00:55:47] and I'm like,

[00:55:48] I haven't seen any

[00:55:49] of the rest of the movie,

[00:55:50] this means nothing to me,

[00:55:51] and like,

[00:55:52] when it did that sweeping shot

[00:55:53] of her,

[00:55:53] like when she bursts out,

[00:55:54] I was like,

[00:55:55] oof,

[00:55:55] yeah,

[00:55:56] that's gonna be a,

[00:55:56] that's gonna be a moment,

[00:55:57] that's a powerful moment

[00:55:58] in the theater right there.

[00:55:59] I,

[00:55:59] I did,

[00:56:00] I did cry when I,

[00:56:01] I did cry when I saw it on stage,

[00:56:03] because it's,

[00:56:03] it's just such a powerful moment.

[00:56:05] It is a,

[00:56:06] it is a phenomenal,

[00:56:08] phenomenal ballad.

[00:56:10] Like,

[00:56:10] it hits you,

[00:56:10] it hits you right in the feels.

[00:56:12] It does.

[00:56:13] I cried so much

[00:56:13] during the movie,

[00:56:16] like that,

[00:56:17] that scene in the movie,

[00:56:18] but also in,

[00:56:19] but that scene in the musical,

[00:56:21] I cried so much

[00:56:22] at,

[00:56:23] in the musical

[00:56:23] that I had to go get water

[00:56:25] because I was dehydrated

[00:56:26] because I cried so much.

[00:56:28] I mean,

[00:56:29] I haven't,

[00:56:29] I haven't really,

[00:56:30] I haven't really cried in a movie

[00:56:33] hardcore,

[00:56:34] like,

[00:56:35] since Toy Story 3.

[00:56:36] I was a fucking child

[00:56:38] during that movie.

[00:56:39] Oh my god,

[00:56:39] yes.

[00:56:40] Oh yeah.

[00:56:40] But they're holding the hands.

[00:56:41] See,

[00:56:42] that's what,

[00:56:42] that's when it got me the first time,

[00:56:44] okay?

[00:56:44] So I'm like,

[00:56:45] that wrecked me,

[00:56:46] but then they get out

[00:56:47] and I think I'm safe,

[00:56:48] I think I'm okay.

[00:56:50] Then,

[00:56:51] they hit you with

[00:56:52] Andy dropping them off

[00:56:54] at Bonnie's house.

[00:56:55] Goodbye,

[00:56:55] partner.

[00:56:56] And then I was,

[00:56:57] and then I was just like,

[00:57:00] not prepared

[00:57:01] because I was bracing myself

[00:57:02] at the,

[00:57:03] at the,

[00:57:04] the furnace moment,

[00:57:05] but it still hit me.

[00:57:06] I was woefully ill-prepared

[00:57:08] for the,

[00:57:10] the final scene there

[00:57:11] and I,

[00:57:11] I just lost my shit

[00:57:13] and I'm just like,

[00:57:13] I don't need to go.

[00:57:16] What was the last time

[00:57:17] they made me?

[00:57:17] They were willing to die together.

[00:57:18] They were willing to die together.

[00:57:20] That killed me, man.

[00:57:20] Oh my gosh,

[00:57:21] that killed me so hard.

[00:57:22] I was like,

[00:57:24] I was like,

[00:57:25] yeah.

[00:57:26] I know, right?

[00:57:27] I'm crying.

[00:57:28] It's happening.

[00:57:29] I,

[00:57:30] the last one.

[00:57:31] I cried during this episode

[00:57:32] because I'm wicked

[00:57:32] and I'm crying

[00:57:33] because of the toilet

[00:57:33] that's burning.

[00:57:34] Well, it's okay.

[00:57:35] We can just play

[00:57:35] Define Gravity

[00:57:36] and go through it

[00:57:37] all over again.

[00:57:39] You know,

[00:57:40] for me,

[00:57:40] it wasn't just the number though.

[00:57:41] It was the fact

[00:57:42] that it was like,

[00:57:44] so many things

[00:57:45] were culminating

[00:57:45] at the same time

[00:57:46] because it's a powerful number.

[00:57:48] The story's culminating.

[00:57:49] The fact that this movie exists

[00:57:51] and is just making

[00:57:52] so many people happy,

[00:57:54] it just hits you all

[00:57:55] at the same time.

[00:57:56] And apart from the tears

[00:57:57] being shed,

[00:57:58] I had chills

[00:57:59] through so many musical numbers

[00:58:01] because it sounds,

[00:58:04] yeah.

[00:58:04] And then there was

[00:58:05] Toy Story 4.

[00:58:07] I actually liked

[00:58:08] Toy Story 4,

[00:58:09] but I mean,

[00:58:10] I wasn't,

[00:58:11] I wasn't like,

[00:58:12] I wasn't bawling my eyes out

[00:58:14] or anything,

[00:58:14] but.

[00:58:14] I got emotional at the end,

[00:58:16] but I'm easily

[00:58:17] emotionally manipulated,

[00:58:18] so.

[00:58:19] Yeah,

[00:58:19] but I mean,

[00:58:19] that's true.

[00:58:20] Me too.

[00:58:21] But I mean,

[00:58:22] when Woody said goodbye

[00:58:24] to Bopee,

[00:58:25] that kind of got me.

[00:58:26] Yeah,

[00:58:27] no.

[00:58:27] For me,

[00:58:27] for me it was when Buzz

[00:58:28] said goodbye to Woody

[00:58:29] and then like,

[00:58:31] but when he goes

[00:58:32] to infinity

[00:58:32] and then Buzz finishes

[00:58:34] and beyond

[00:58:35] and they like,

[00:58:35] I was like,

[00:58:37] oh,

[00:58:37] it's going to be so

[00:58:38] minute,

[00:58:38] it's going to be

[00:58:39] this work.

[00:58:39] I just,

[00:58:39] it's been like,

[00:58:40] I just,

[00:58:41] ironically,

[00:58:42] the moment they got me

[00:58:44] in Toy Story 4

[00:58:44] was actually when,

[00:58:46] what's the doll's name?

[00:58:47] The one that's trying

[00:58:48] to get Woody's voice box,

[00:58:49] what's her name?

[00:58:50] Oh,

[00:58:52] Gabby.

[00:58:53] Gabby,

[00:58:53] yeah.

[00:58:54] It's when Gabby

[00:58:56] sees the girl

[00:58:57] that's lost.

[00:59:00] That's,

[00:59:00] that's the one

[00:59:01] that,

[00:59:01] that's the one

[00:59:02] that hit me.

[00:59:02] At that point,

[00:59:04] at that point,

[00:59:04] like,

[00:59:05] I will say this,

[00:59:06] I hated Gabby.

[00:59:07] I was like,

[00:59:07] bitch,

[00:59:08] that's my voice box.

[00:59:09] Get your damn,

[00:59:10] your own damn doll.

[00:59:11] But see,

[00:59:11] and that,

[00:59:11] this is why,

[00:59:12] this is why that movie

[00:59:13] works so well

[00:59:13] because Gabby

[00:59:14] is the antagonist.

[00:59:15] Yeah.

[00:59:16] But,

[00:59:16] in the end,

[00:59:18] all she wanted

[00:59:19] was what all toys want.

[00:59:21] It was just the means

[00:59:22] with which she was

[00:59:23] trying to get there.

[00:59:24] Right.

[00:59:24] Yeah.

[00:59:25] But still,

[00:59:26] the whole time,

[00:59:28] like,

[00:59:28] every scene

[00:59:29] we got,

[00:59:30] I was like,

[00:59:30] get your own

[00:59:32] voice box,

[00:59:33] your damn self.

[00:59:35] It was like,

[00:59:35] it worked out in the end.

[00:59:37] Pixar.

[00:59:37] We're like,

[00:59:37] it's Pixar.

[00:59:38] These characters are nuanced.

[00:59:40] Pixar can slay my emotions

[00:59:42] like a fiddle

[00:59:42] and I am totally okay

[00:59:43] with it.

[00:59:44] I will say,

[00:59:44] have you guys seen

[00:59:45] the trailer

[00:59:46] for their new movie?

[00:59:48] Which new movie?

[00:59:49] Oh,

[00:59:49] the newest,

[00:59:50] we talked about today

[00:59:51] on the show.

[00:59:52] It starts with an E.

[00:59:53] It's about a young boy

[00:59:54] who he wants to be

[00:59:55] abducted by aliens.

[00:59:57] And,

[00:59:57] there's a really funny joke

[00:59:59] in the trailer

[00:59:59] which actually made me laugh

[01:00:01] where he's trying

[01:00:02] to be abducted by aliens

[01:00:03] and he's sitting there

[01:00:03] and all these aliens are,

[01:00:05] he's like,

[01:00:05] I'm trying to get abducted

[01:00:08] by aliens,

[01:00:08] by aliens.

[01:00:09] He's like a little boy.

[01:00:11] No,

[01:00:12] I have not seen that.

[01:00:13] It starts with an E.

[01:00:15] I can't remember

[01:00:15] what it's actually called.

[01:00:16] yeah,

[01:00:17] it looks pretty good.

[01:00:18] that gets me

[01:00:19] every time

[01:00:19] is Finding Nemo.

[01:00:20] That always gets me.

[01:00:22] Oh,

[01:00:23] you're a top Pixar movie

[01:00:23] that gets me.

[01:00:24] Inside Out.

[01:00:25] Finding Nemo

[01:00:25] and Wally,

[01:00:26] they both.

[01:00:26] Inside,

[01:00:27] oh my god,

[01:00:28] Inside Out 2.

[01:00:29] So,

[01:00:29] I didn't,

[01:00:31] I didn't

[01:00:32] cry during that movie.

[01:00:33] Has everybody here

[01:00:33] seen Inside Out 2?

[01:00:35] I haven't yet.

[01:00:35] Oh,

[01:00:35] I've seen it.

[01:00:36] Oh,

[01:00:36] it's so good.

[01:00:37] Oh,

[01:00:37] Haley,

[01:00:38] it's so good.

[01:00:39] The Panic Attack.

[01:00:40] I haven't even seen

[01:00:40] the first one.

[01:00:41] Oh,

[01:00:43] why have you not

[01:00:44] seen Inside Out?

[01:00:45] I just didn't

[01:00:46] see it.

[01:00:47] Bing Bong.

[01:00:48] Oh,

[01:00:48] no.

[01:00:49] Bing Bong.

[01:00:50] Oh,

[01:00:52] oh.

[01:00:52] No,

[01:00:52] Haley,

[01:00:52] trust me.

[01:00:53] That one makes me cry.

[01:00:54] Trust me,

[01:00:54] Haley.

[01:00:55] Both of them.

[01:00:56] You will love

[01:00:57] both of them.

[01:00:58] I can see

[01:00:59] why you thought that

[01:01:00] because

[01:01:01] I was dragged

[01:01:02] to see the first one.

[01:01:03] I'm like,

[01:01:03] this is dumb.

[01:01:04] Like,

[01:01:04] I wasn't kicking and screaming

[01:01:05] because I'm a Louis Black fan

[01:01:07] and I'm like,

[01:01:07] I get to watch

[01:01:07] Louis Black yell,

[01:01:08] so I'll have a good time.

[01:01:10] Haley,

[01:01:10] when I tell you

[01:01:11] this thing

[01:01:12] does things to your emotions

[01:01:14] that you're not ready for.

[01:01:18] You're just not ready for it.

[01:01:19] I got emotional

[01:01:20] in the second one.

[01:01:21] I didn't cry.

[01:01:22] I did cry in the second one,

[01:01:23] but that's because

[01:01:24] I cried laughing.

[01:01:25] I think I talked about it.

[01:01:26] We did a review

[01:01:27] I talked about it,

[01:01:27] but it's,

[01:01:28] I can't remember what the scene is

[01:01:29] right off the top of my head,

[01:01:30] but there's a recurring gag

[01:01:33] with anger

[01:01:33] and a particular character

[01:01:34] in the second one

[01:01:35] that me and Jordan,

[01:01:36] we were just,

[01:01:36] we were just,

[01:01:37] we were cry laughing.

[01:01:38] We were laughing.

[01:01:38] Pretty funny.

[01:01:39] It's pretty funny.

[01:01:40] It was pretty funny.

[01:01:41] It's pretty good.

[01:01:42] They're good.

[01:01:42] There,

[01:01:43] I think I've seen people say

[01:01:44] they're like a modern toy story,

[01:01:45] like the,

[01:01:46] this generation's toy story.

[01:01:48] And I just so,

[01:01:48] I so agree with that.

[01:01:49] You two are beginning

[01:01:50] to be the problems again.

[01:01:52] Well,

[01:01:52] no,

[01:01:52] I'm just going to leave with this

[01:01:54] because we're talking about

[01:01:54] emotional scenes.

[01:01:56] The panic attack scene,

[01:01:58] Justin.

[01:01:59] Oh,

[01:01:59] so good.

[01:02:00] Holy shit.

[01:02:01] I'm in the theater watching it.

[01:02:03] I'm like,

[01:02:03] this is fucking cinema.

[01:02:06] This is cinema.

[01:02:08] It's,

[01:02:08] it's,

[01:02:09] it's very similar

[01:02:10] to the defying gravity moment,

[01:02:11] actually,

[01:02:11] in terms of what it does

[01:02:12] to your emotions

[01:02:13] because you're not

[01:02:14] physically experiencing it,

[01:02:16] but because of what

[01:02:17] you're watching,

[01:02:17] you are kind of going

[01:02:19] through the emotional steps.

[01:02:22] If that makes sense.

[01:02:24] Yeah.

[01:02:24] I will watch,

[01:02:25] I will watch both movies.

[01:02:27] I will get Disney plus again

[01:02:28] and I will watch both movies.

[01:02:30] They're both pretty good.

[01:02:31] If you come on the podcast again

[01:02:34] and it's all,

[01:02:34] so we can discuss it.

[01:02:37] Oh God.

[01:02:38] I'll take that,

[01:02:39] yeah.

[01:02:39] We,

[01:02:39] we will absolutely be the problem

[01:02:41] on that one,

[01:02:41] but we will be talking about

[01:02:42] inside out the whole time.

[01:02:44] I mean,

[01:02:44] there's a new show coming out.

[01:02:46] We can make it,

[01:02:46] we can make it SEO friendly.

[01:02:47] Oh yeah.

[01:02:48] There.

[01:02:48] Yeah,

[01:02:49] that's true.

[01:02:49] That's true.

[01:02:50] Which,

[01:02:51] speaking of which Haley,

[01:02:51] not to,

[01:02:53] are you free

[01:02:54] to come on

[01:02:56] a podcast tomorrow

[01:02:57] by chance?

[01:02:58] What time?

[01:03:00] I'm open.

[01:03:01] So anytime after five,

[01:03:03] after six,

[01:03:03] I'm wide open.

[01:03:06] Yeah,

[01:03:06] I'm open.

[01:03:07] Okay.

[01:03:08] since I got both of you here,

[01:03:11] I should,

[01:03:11] I should double check,

[01:03:12] but me and Jordan

[01:03:13] have our one year anniversary

[01:03:14] coming back,

[01:03:15] coming up.

[01:03:15] And if y'all are,

[01:03:16] I'm pretty sure it's December 8th,

[01:03:18] Sunday,

[01:03:19] December 8th.

[01:03:19] So if y'all are available,

[01:03:21] we're going to be talking about

[01:03:22] shit we've already talked about.

[01:03:25] Cool.

[01:03:25] I'll just bring Noah back up

[01:03:27] and rip that one another

[01:03:28] new asshole.

[01:03:29] Yeah.

[01:03:30] The thing is,

[01:03:31] Jordan's going to talk about

[01:03:32] stuff I talked about.

[01:03:33] I'm going to talk about

[01:03:33] stuff he talked about.

[01:03:35] And it's just going to be

[01:03:36] a celebration of

[01:03:37] a year of doing the show.

[01:03:39] Holy old switch room.

[01:03:41] What I talked about

[01:03:41] on your show.

[01:03:43] I've been on your show

[01:03:44] so many times

[01:03:45] that I forgot

[01:03:45] what I talked about.

[01:03:47] We did musicals.

[01:03:48] We did

[01:03:50] DreamWorks

[01:03:50] and animation.

[01:03:52] Oh yeah.

[01:03:53] I was the one who

[01:03:53] screwed that up.

[01:03:54] I was supposed to talk

[01:03:54] about Don Bloop.

[01:03:55] But anyway,

[01:03:55] Haley,

[01:03:56] are you a fan of Moana?

[01:04:02] Yes?

[01:04:02] No?

[01:04:03] He's giving you a look like

[01:04:04] Oh no.

[01:04:05] Oh no.

[01:04:06] Okay.

[01:04:06] So we'll agree on this one.

[01:04:07] So what I want to do

[01:04:09] to be SEO friendly

[01:04:10] is I basically want to

[01:04:11] you know,

[01:04:12] not

[01:04:14] because I don't hate Moana

[01:04:15] but I feel like

[01:04:16] it's overly loved

[01:04:17] and I want to take it

[01:04:18] down a peg

[01:04:19] before Moana 2

[01:04:20] comes out.

[01:04:21] I mean,

[01:04:21] Moana 2 is out.

[01:04:23] Or is it out?

[01:04:24] I thought it came out

[01:04:24] the 26th.

[01:04:25] I saw a

[01:04:28] commercial for it

[01:04:29] when they do

[01:04:30] the commercials

[01:04:31] before the movie

[01:04:32] starts

[01:04:32] and

[01:04:34] it looks bad.

[01:04:35] It looks bad.

[01:04:36] Oh,

[01:04:37] it does.

[01:04:37] It does.

[01:04:38] Have you guys seen

[01:04:39] the set photos

[01:04:39] of The Rock

[01:04:40] doing the live action

[01:04:41] one in the muscle suit?

[01:04:42] No.

[01:04:43] Do yourself a favor.

[01:04:44] Look it up.

[01:04:45] It's amazing.

[01:04:45] It looks terrible.

[01:04:47] It looks amazing

[01:04:48] in the sense

[01:04:49] that it looks terrible

[01:04:50] and it looks really fun.

[01:04:52] Really, really funny.

[01:04:53] But it looks terrible.

[01:04:55] This movie tries too hard,

[01:04:56] I swear.

[01:04:57] It does.

[01:04:58] Well, no.

[01:04:59] The Rock is trying too hard.

[01:05:00] But we'll talk about that

[01:05:01] tomorrow night, Haley,

[01:05:02] if you're available.

[01:05:02] Yeah.

[01:05:03] Okay.

[01:05:03] I need a guest co-host

[01:05:06] to record an early episode.

[01:05:10] For Tug Talk?

[01:05:11] No, for Average Intelligence

[01:05:13] because I'm going to be traveling

[01:05:15] on Wednesday

[01:05:16] so we can't do it live.

[01:05:18] Fair enough.

[01:05:20] Fair enough.

[01:05:20] And Eric can't do it on Monday.

[01:05:23] And I have an interview

[01:05:24] on Tuesday.

[01:05:25] So, yeah.

[01:05:27] Because apparently

[01:05:28] this stupid MF-er

[01:05:31] doesn't know when to say no.

[01:05:33] Hey.

[01:05:34] I get that.

[01:05:35] It's one thing I love about you.

[01:05:38] It's why I'm here talking wicked.

[01:05:40] Wicked!

[01:05:41] Well, the thing I'm going to be

[01:05:42] most pissed off about

[01:05:43] when I die

[01:05:44] is that I can't work anymore.

[01:05:45] That's going to be a thing.

[01:05:46] Anyway, wicked!

[01:05:48] Wicked!

[01:05:49] I mean, it was wicked good.

[01:05:51] I mean, it was a wicked good movie, yeah.

[01:05:53] Wicked good, yeah.

[01:05:54] It was wicked good, yeah.

[01:05:56] It was wicked good, yeah.

[01:05:58] Stop it.

[01:05:59] What part was the most wicked for you?

[01:06:02] I'm impressed that this movie exists.

[01:06:05] I'm impressed that it's been so successful.

[01:06:07] And I'm happy what it means

[01:06:09] for musicals and movies.

[01:06:11] Because I just felt like the music...

[01:06:14] Because I come from a place

[01:06:15] of growing up with, like,

[01:06:16] classic Mary Poppins,

[01:06:19] Chitty Chitty Bang Bang,

[01:06:20] you know, from the era

[01:06:21] when musicals used to win Oscars.

[01:06:22] And I just feel like

[01:06:23] like the Western,

[01:06:25] the musical,

[01:06:25] the movie musical

[01:06:26] has lost respect.

[01:06:27] And I think this shows

[01:06:29] that there's an audience for them.

[01:06:31] And that we can advertise

[01:06:33] musicals as musicals again.

[01:06:34] We don't need to pretend

[01:06:35] that they're not musicals anymore.

[01:06:37] Make musicals musical again.

[01:06:39] Yes, absolutely.

[01:06:40] Make musicals musical again.

[01:06:43] Let Jesse Eisenberg do his...

[01:06:46] Real quick,

[01:06:47] musical theater-related aside,

[01:06:48] and you guys probably don't know this,

[01:06:50] you know Jesse Eisenberg's

[01:06:51] going to make a musical?

[01:06:53] I'll bring it up

[01:06:53] because it's so random.

[01:06:54] He's making a musical

[01:06:55] about community theater.

[01:06:56] He's directing and writing it.

[01:06:59] That sounds like something

[01:07:00] Lin-Manuel Miranda would do,

[01:07:01] and I am not here for it.

[01:07:03] Right?

[01:07:04] I'm just like,

[01:07:04] Jordan, like,

[01:07:05] Jesse Eisenberg?

[01:07:06] And I went,

[01:07:07] yeah, he's like,

[01:07:08] can he sing?

[01:07:08] I'm like,

[01:07:09] I have no clue.

[01:07:09] That makes no sense.

[01:07:12] It's just a random bit

[01:07:13] of musical theater.

[01:07:14] No, see,

[01:07:15] he's going to Lin-Manuel

[01:07:16] because he's just going

[01:07:17] to get up there

[01:07:17] and talk really fast

[01:07:18] in a way that's so

[01:07:19] somewhat rhythmic,

[01:07:20] rhythmic, rhythmic.

[01:07:21] My head's going crazy

[01:07:22] and I can't really sing,

[01:07:23] so I'm going to talk

[01:07:23] really fast

[01:07:24] and I'm rhythmic,

[01:07:24] rhythmic, rhythmic.

[01:07:28] More musicals!

[01:07:29] That's my ultimate

[01:07:30] thesis of today's episode.

[01:07:32] Not less,

[01:07:33] not less musicals,

[01:07:34] more musicals.

[01:07:37] So what do we think

[01:07:38] the breakout song

[01:07:39] is going to be

[01:07:40] for part two?

[01:07:41] Oh, that's a dumb question.

[01:07:43] It's totally going to be

[01:07:43] for good.

[01:07:44] Yeah, it's probably good.

[01:07:45] Oh, is that an act two song?

[01:07:47] Yeah, that's the closing number.

[01:07:50] Oh, it's the closing number!

[01:07:51] Oh, okay,

[01:07:52] I didn't know that.

[01:07:54] I'm trying to get my lights on.

[01:07:56] I feel like,

[01:08:01] I think,

[01:08:03] if they're going,

[01:08:05] if they're going

[01:08:07] chronologically ordered,

[01:08:09] it's going to be,

[01:08:09] thank goodness.

[01:08:11] Yeah.

[01:08:12] Do you guys think

[01:08:13] they'll include

[01:08:14] more stuff?

[01:08:15] Has the breakout

[01:08:16] number, though?

[01:08:17] Yeah, that's the

[01:08:18] breakout number.

[01:08:19] That's when

[01:08:20] Oh, no, I'm sorry.

[01:08:21] I'm sorry.

[01:08:21] I don't mean,

[01:08:22] yeah, I'm sorry.

[01:08:22] We're getting two

[01:08:23] different breakouts.

[01:08:24] No, I mean,

[01:08:25] like, as far as

[01:08:27] popularity?

[01:08:29] That's not the right word.

[01:08:30] The number that

[01:08:31] most people are going

[01:08:32] to love.

[01:08:35] So I guess popularity?

[01:08:36] You're right, Hayley.

[01:08:37] That would be the

[01:08:37] breakout number

[01:08:38] because that's the

[01:08:38] number that the

[01:08:40] Act 2 starts on.

[01:08:41] But yeah,

[01:08:42] I'm talking about

[01:08:43] like popular.

[01:08:44] Is there a,

[01:08:46] is there an

[01:08:47] original song in this

[01:08:47] so they can get

[01:08:48] that original song

[01:08:49] nomination for the

[01:08:50] Oscars?

[01:08:51] There is not.

[01:08:52] I was going to say,

[01:08:53] I didn't think so.

[01:08:54] No, they followed

[01:08:55] the book pretty well.

[01:08:56] Yeah.

[01:08:56] Interesting,

[01:08:57] because the

[01:08:57] one of these

[01:08:58] always has a new

[01:08:59] song so they can

[01:09:00] go for best

[01:09:00] original song.

[01:09:01] Like,

[01:09:02] Wait,

[01:09:02] Miss has that

[01:09:02] song about how

[01:09:03] Hugh Jackman

[01:09:03] wants to be a dad.

[01:09:10] Just as somebody

[01:09:11] who's seen Les Mis,

[01:09:12] your characterization.

[01:09:13] It's great.

[01:09:15] That's what that

[01:09:16] song's about.

[01:09:17] I know.

[01:09:18] That's why it's

[01:09:18] funny.

[01:09:20] But yeah,

[01:09:21] these always have

[01:09:22] an original.

[01:09:23] That surprised me

[01:09:24] because that's how

[01:09:25] they get the Oscar.

[01:09:25] They always have

[01:09:27] an original song.

[01:09:28] Well,

[01:09:28] West Side Story

[01:09:28] didn't have an

[01:09:29] original.

[01:09:30] Did it not?

[01:09:31] No.

[01:09:31] I don't think so.

[01:09:32] No, it didn't.

[01:09:33] It went right

[01:09:34] through the musical.

[01:09:35] Yeah,

[01:09:35] they changed some

[01:09:36] things up,

[01:09:37] but they didn't

[01:09:37] create any new

[01:09:38] numbers.

[01:09:39] No.

[01:09:39] Oh,

[01:09:39] interesting.

[01:09:40] Because yeah,

[01:09:40] that's why like

[01:09:41] Aladdin has

[01:09:42] Speechless

[01:09:43] so it can get

[01:09:44] nominated for an Oscar.

[01:09:45] And I'm 100%

[01:09:46] sure,

[01:09:47] neither will this.

[01:09:48] I don't know

[01:09:49] where you could

[01:09:49] add another

[01:09:50] number.

[01:09:51] I mean,

[01:09:52] it's pretty stacked

[01:09:52] with songs.

[01:09:53] I mean,

[01:09:53] it flows

[01:09:54] musically

[01:09:55] pretty consistently.

[01:09:57] I think

[01:09:58] the reason

[01:09:58] why it's

[01:09:59] like longer

[01:09:59] is because

[01:10:00] it's because

[01:10:01] they're adding

[01:10:02] detail.

[01:10:03] They're not

[01:10:04] adding

[01:10:04] song.

[01:10:09] numbers.

[01:10:11] Did they

[01:10:11] take out

[01:10:11] something bad

[01:10:12] or did they

[01:10:13] convert that

[01:10:14] more into

[01:10:14] an interlude?

[01:10:15] No,

[01:10:15] they made

[01:10:15] that more

[01:10:15] of like a

[01:10:16] little interlude

[01:10:17] instead of

[01:10:17] like a full

[01:10:18] number.

[01:10:19] Yeah.

[01:10:19] Yeah.

[01:10:20] Yeah.

[01:10:20] What's the

[01:10:21] song?

[01:10:22] Because isn't

[01:10:22] there a certain

[01:10:23] ratio of like

[01:10:23] you should have

[01:10:24] a certain amount

[01:10:25] of like song

[01:10:26] to dialogue

[01:10:27] ratio per

[01:10:27] musical?

[01:10:28] Yeah.

[01:10:30] I think so.

[01:10:31] Unless it's a

[01:10:32] rock opera,

[01:10:33] then you just

[01:10:34] sing everything.

[01:10:35] I really hope

[01:10:36] that as much

[01:10:38] as I love

[01:10:38] that musical,

[01:10:39] I really hope

[01:10:40] they don't do

[01:10:41] school rock.

[01:10:43] Oh,

[01:10:43] okay.

[01:10:44] That would be good.

[01:10:45] Okay.

[01:10:45] I thought you were

[01:10:45] going to say

[01:10:46] something as

[01:10:47] don't ask me

[01:10:48] why I thought

[01:10:48] because I

[01:10:49] thought you

[01:10:49] were about to

[01:10:50] say as long

[01:10:50] as you're mine

[01:10:51] and I'm like

[01:10:51] they have to

[01:10:52] do that song.

[01:10:53] No,

[01:10:53] they have to

[01:10:53] do that song.

[01:10:54] They're going

[01:10:54] to do that

[01:10:55] song.

[01:10:55] I know

[01:10:55] that they

[01:10:56] are.

[01:10:56] They better

[01:10:56] do that

[01:10:57] song.

[01:10:57] Oh,

[01:10:58] wait,

[01:10:58] there's a

[01:10:58] song called

[01:10:59] School of

[01:10:59] Rock,

[01:10:59] you mean?

[01:10:59] Or you

[01:10:59] mean School

[01:11:00] of Rock,

[01:11:00] the musical?

[01:11:01] there's a

[01:11:01] musical.

[01:11:02] Oh,

[01:11:03] but the

[01:11:03] musical's good.

[01:11:04] Before the

[01:11:05] Jack Black

[01:11:06] movie.

[01:11:07] Yeah,

[01:11:08] yeah,

[01:11:08] I've seen

[01:11:08] parts of it.

[01:11:10] That musical's

[01:11:10] good.

[01:11:11] It's Andrew

[01:11:12] Lloyd Webber.

[01:11:12] That's quite

[01:11:13] good.

[01:11:14] If you've

[01:11:15] seen the

[01:11:15] Beatle

[01:11:15] Geeks

[01:11:16] musical,

[01:11:16] it's Alex

[01:11:16] Brightman.

[01:11:17] He plays

[01:11:17] the Jack

[01:11:17] Black role.

[01:11:18] wait,

[01:11:18] I just

[01:11:20] contradicted

[01:11:20] myself.

[01:11:20] Yeah,

[01:11:21] they already

[01:11:21] did that.

[01:11:22] Damn it.

[01:11:23] Yeah,

[01:11:23] they did do

[01:11:23] that.

[01:11:23] It's quite

[01:11:23] good.

[01:11:24] I know

[01:11:24] that Robert

[01:11:25] Zemeckis wants

[01:11:25] to do a movie

[01:11:26] version of the

[01:11:27] Back to the

[01:11:27] Future musical,

[01:11:28] and to that I

[01:11:28] say do it.

[01:11:30] Do it.

[01:11:31] Do it.

[01:11:31] thing.

[01:11:33] I just

[01:11:35] don't want

[01:11:36] any more

[01:11:36] like rock

[01:11:37] kind of

[01:11:38] like

[01:11:41] musicals.

[01:11:43] Honestly,

[01:11:43] I'm a rock

[01:11:44] guy.

[01:11:44] I want way

[01:11:44] more rock

[01:11:45] musicals.

[01:11:45] There can

[01:11:46] never be

[01:11:46] enough rock

[01:11:47] musicals.

[01:11:47] I don't

[01:11:48] like traditional

[01:11:49] Hammerstein

[01:11:49] musicals.

[01:11:50] I find them

[01:11:50] boring.

[01:11:51] I think that's

[01:11:52] maybe why I

[01:11:53] didn't like

[01:11:53] the producers

[01:11:53] because that

[01:11:54] was very

[01:11:54] traditional.

[01:11:55] did that.

[01:11:56] They did that

[01:11:57] with Brandy

[01:11:58] Cinderella,

[01:11:59] so they

[01:11:59] can't do

[01:11:59] that.

[01:12:03] they can't

[01:12:03] do it

[01:12:04] again.

[01:12:06] But

[01:12:06] wicked.

[01:12:07] Is there

[01:12:08] anything you

[01:12:08] didn't like

[01:12:09] in the movie?

[01:12:10] In the

[01:12:10] movie?

[01:12:13] No.

[01:12:14] I was

[01:12:15] going to

[01:12:15] say she's

[01:12:15] thinking,

[01:12:16] she's

[01:12:16] thinking,

[01:12:17] nope,

[01:12:17] it was

[01:12:17] fine.

[01:12:17] I did

[01:12:18] like the

[01:12:18] effigy.

[01:12:18] I thought

[01:12:19] that was

[01:12:19] a nice

[01:12:19] touch.

[01:12:20] Glinda

[01:12:20] thought that

[01:12:21] was really

[01:12:22] good.

[01:12:22] It was

[01:12:23] really

[01:12:23] good.

[01:12:27] I just

[01:12:27] hope there's

[01:12:28] no tiger

[01:12:28] sex in

[01:12:29] part two.

[01:12:30] I don't

[01:12:30] think there

[01:12:31] will be

[01:12:32] because it

[01:12:33] wasn't in

[01:12:33] the stage

[01:12:34] play.

[01:12:35] They did

[01:12:35] take some

[01:12:36] elements of

[01:12:36] the book,

[01:12:37] but it

[01:12:37] was more

[01:12:38] like they

[01:12:39] didn't take

[01:12:39] anything that

[01:12:40] I can recall.

[01:12:41] They didn't

[01:12:41] take anything

[01:12:42] that was

[01:12:42] strictly from

[01:12:43] the book

[01:12:43] that wasn't

[01:12:44] in the

[01:12:44] musical,

[01:12:45] but they

[01:12:45] used certain

[01:12:46] aspects and

[01:12:47] extended them

[01:12:48] basically.

[01:12:49] There's an

[01:12:49] extended

[01:12:49] sequence of

[01:12:50] Dr.

[01:12:50] Dillon

[01:12:51] meeting with

[01:12:51] other animals

[01:12:52] and talking

[01:12:53] about what's

[01:12:53] going on,

[01:12:54] as opposed

[01:12:54] to the

[01:12:55] stage play

[01:12:55] where it

[01:12:55] all happens

[01:12:56] in the

[01:12:56] classroom and

[01:12:57] a private

[01:12:57] conversation

[01:12:58] between

[01:12:59] Dillon

[01:12:59] and Elphaba.

[01:13:00] Which I

[01:13:00] liked better.

[01:13:02] I do.

[01:13:03] There's

[01:13:03] constraints of

[01:13:04] the stage

[01:13:04] play that

[01:13:05] this movie

[01:13:05] did not

[01:13:06] have and

[01:13:07] they fully

[01:13:08] exploited it.

[01:13:09] For example,

[01:13:11] the number you

[01:13:11] liked,

[01:13:12] Haley,

[01:13:12] The Wizard

[01:13:13] and I,

[01:13:13] on the

[01:13:14] stage play,

[01:13:15] it's not a

[01:13:15] bad number,

[01:13:16] but it's

[01:13:16] simple.

[01:13:17] She's not

[01:13:18] moving around

[01:13:19] a lot.

[01:13:21] As opposed

[01:13:22] to the

[01:13:22] movie where

[01:13:22] she's going

[01:13:23] across campus

[01:13:24] and they're

[01:13:25] doing things

[01:13:25] making it a

[01:13:26] little bit

[01:13:26] funnier,

[01:13:27] more powerful,

[01:13:28] that kind of

[01:13:29] stuff.

[01:13:29] See,

[01:13:30] that to me

[01:13:31] is using

[01:13:32] the medium

[01:13:32] of film

[01:13:33] to add

[01:13:35] to the

[01:13:35] stage musical.

[01:13:38] We keep

[01:13:38] talking about

[01:13:39] Dear Evan

[01:13:39] Hansen,

[01:13:40] but the best

[01:13:40] example of

[01:13:41] this in

[01:13:41] terms of

[01:13:43] comparing

[01:13:43] Dear Evan

[01:13:44] Hansen to

[01:13:44] Wicked,

[01:13:46] Defying

[01:13:46] Gravity,

[01:13:46] because it's

[01:13:47] the one

[01:13:47] scene from

[01:13:47] this movie

[01:13:48] I've seen.

[01:13:48] It's very

[01:13:49] dynamic,

[01:13:50] he's flying

[01:13:50] around,

[01:13:51] it's stuff

[01:13:51] that you

[01:13:52] just can't

[01:13:52] do on

[01:13:52] stage,

[01:13:53] right?

[01:13:54] Dear Evan

[01:13:55] Hansen,

[01:13:55] one of the

[01:13:55] big,

[01:13:56] have you seen

[01:13:57] Dear Evan

[01:13:57] Hansen,

[01:13:57] Jake?

[01:13:59] No,

[01:13:59] okay.

[01:14:00] One of the

[01:14:00] big numbers,

[01:14:01] the big plot

[01:14:02] point of it

[01:14:03] is he's

[01:14:03] telling

[01:14:03] this fictional

[01:14:04] story,

[01:14:05] and there's

[01:14:05] a number

[01:14:06] where he

[01:14:06] sings

[01:14:08] this story

[01:14:08] to

[01:14:14] they're

[01:14:14] in the

[01:14:15] kitchen

[01:14:15] and he's

[01:14:16] singing

[01:14:17] to his

[01:14:18] family,

[01:14:19] and it's

[01:14:19] very much

[01:14:20] a solo

[01:14:20] of them.

[01:14:21] Words fail?

[01:14:22] Words fail

[01:14:23] is another

[01:14:23] example of

[01:14:24] this,

[01:14:24] but I'm

[01:14:25] talking about

[01:14:25] For Forever.

[01:14:26] And in

[01:14:27] the movie,

[01:14:28] it just

[01:14:29] kind of

[01:14:29] turns into

[01:14:30] he's just

[01:14:30] kind of

[01:14:31] awkwardly

[01:14:31] standing there

[01:14:32] singing

[01:14:33] at him,

[01:14:34] like singing

[01:14:35] at them.

[01:14:35] It doesn't

[01:14:35] really do

[01:14:36] anything.

[01:14:36] It doesn't

[01:14:37] change

[01:14:37] anything

[01:14:37] with the

[01:14:38] staging.

[01:14:38] It doesn't

[01:14:38] really add

[01:14:39] anything

[01:14:39] to make

[01:14:39] it interesting.

[01:14:40] And Wicked

[01:14:41] sounds like

[01:14:42] it does.

[01:14:43] And that

[01:14:43] I,

[01:14:44] as a

[01:14:44] person who

[01:14:45] hasn't seen

[01:14:45] it,

[01:14:46] that intrigues

[01:14:46] me.

[01:14:47] Because I'm

[01:14:47] like,

[01:14:47] oh yeah,

[01:14:48] they're doing

[01:14:48] something with

[01:14:49] the medium

[01:14:49] of film.

[01:14:50] They absolutely

[01:14:51] are.

[01:14:52] I ushered

[01:14:52] for Dear

[01:14:53] Ray Hanton

[01:14:53] like two

[01:14:54] weeks ago.

[01:14:54] I know,

[01:14:55] I was jealous.

[01:14:56] I saw the

[01:14:56] musical for

[01:14:57] the first

[01:14:58] time.

[01:14:59] Oh,

[01:14:59] for the

[01:14:59] first time?

[01:15:00] You had

[01:15:00] never seen

[01:15:00] it?

[01:15:00] I loved

[01:15:01] that musical.

[01:15:02] I still

[01:15:02] love that

[01:15:03] musical.

[01:15:03] I cried.

[01:15:04] I loved

[01:15:04] it.

[01:15:05] Yeah,

[01:15:06] I cried

[01:15:07] at the

[01:15:07] end of that

[01:15:07] musical.

[01:15:08] Yeah.

[01:15:09] I fully

[01:15:10] recommend

[01:15:10] the musical.

[01:15:11] Do not

[01:15:13] look at

[01:15:14] the original

[01:15:14] cast with

[01:15:15] Ben Platt.

[01:15:16] That's way

[01:15:16] better than

[01:15:17] the movie.

[01:15:19] So again,

[01:15:20] wicked.

[01:15:21] Yeah,

[01:15:22] I'm excited to

[01:15:23] watch it.

[01:15:23] You guys

[01:15:23] may be

[01:15:24] excited to

[01:15:24] watch it.

[01:15:25] Oh no,

[01:15:25] you'll enjoy

[01:15:26] it.

[01:15:26] You'll enjoy

[01:15:26] it.

[01:15:27] It's a good

[01:15:28] movie going

[01:15:28] experience and

[01:15:29] you will

[01:15:30] enjoy it.

[01:15:31] That's really

[01:15:31] the only

[01:15:32] thing you

[01:15:32] have to

[01:15:32] have seen

[01:15:33] is The

[01:15:33] Wizard of

[01:15:34] Oz.

[01:15:35] Good to

[01:15:35] know.

[01:15:36] That's pretty

[01:15:36] much it.

[01:15:45] Who makes

[01:15:46] this?

[01:15:47] Universal.

[01:15:49] Universal.

[01:15:50] Universal and

[01:15:51] John M.

[01:15:52] 2.

[01:15:53] Well,

[01:15:53] I meant

[01:15:54] distributor.

[01:15:55] Oh,

[01:15:55] Universal.

[01:15:57] Universal.

[01:15:58] Where do

[01:15:59] you think it's

[01:15:59] going when it

[01:16:00] hits?

[01:16:01] Who knows?

[01:16:03] It's whoever

[01:16:03] with Universal

[01:16:04] it's whoever they

[01:16:05] license it to,

[01:16:05] right?

[01:16:06] Interesting.

[01:16:06] So it's not

[01:16:07] like it's going

[01:16:08] to specifically

[01:16:08] HBO Max or

[01:16:09] Disney.

[01:16:10] I would imagine

[01:16:11] it'll end up on

[01:16:12] HBO Max because

[01:16:12] they'll probably

[01:16:13] it'll be on HBO

[01:16:14] Max or Netflix

[01:16:15] probably HBO Max.

[01:16:16] I'm hoping

[01:16:17] fingers crossed

[01:16:18] for Netflix.

[01:16:19] I like it for

[01:16:19] it to go.

[01:16:20] I mean,

[01:16:20] Netflix is

[01:16:21] spending a lot

[01:16:22] of money,

[01:16:22] so I wouldn't

[01:16:22] be surprised.

[01:16:23] People will

[01:16:24] be fighting

[01:16:25] for the

[01:16:25] streaming license

[01:16:26] for this.

[01:16:26] Oh,

[01:16:27] for sure.

[01:16:27] So they're

[01:16:28] going to make

[01:16:28] a mint.

[01:16:29] Do you guys

[01:16:29] think,

[01:16:30] because the

[01:16:31] game now is

[01:16:32] a lot of

[01:16:33] companies are

[01:16:33] realizing if

[01:16:34] you leave

[01:16:34] this in theaters

[01:16:34] for a while

[01:16:35] letting it

[01:16:35] build,

[01:16:36] do you think

[01:16:36] they're going

[01:16:36] to let it

[01:16:36] sit in theaters

[01:16:37] and build?

[01:16:38] Yes,

[01:16:38] they absolutely

[01:16:39] should.

[01:16:40] And that's

[01:16:40] what I'm

[01:16:41] saying.

[01:16:41] So Fathom

[01:16:42] Events needs

[01:16:42] to get a

[01:16:43] hold of

[01:16:43] this,

[01:16:43] and I'm

[01:16:43] kind of

[01:16:43] surprised they

[01:16:44] haven't already

[01:16:44] talking about

[01:16:45] how you have

[01:16:46] the professionally

[01:16:47] shot stage

[01:16:48] play.

[01:16:50] Shocked Fathom

[01:16:50] Events isn't

[01:16:52] screening that.

[01:16:53] I can't

[01:16:54] believe.

[01:16:54] Here's my

[01:16:55] point.

[01:16:55] How are you

[01:16:55] guys feeling

[01:16:56] about singing

[01:16:56] in the theater?

[01:16:59] I'm for it.

[01:17:01] It depends

[01:17:03] on who's

[01:17:04] singing.

[01:17:05] I'm the

[01:17:05] problem.

[01:17:06] I don't give

[01:17:06] a shit.

[01:17:07] I sing.

[01:17:08] I understand

[01:17:09] why people

[01:17:10] don't like it,

[01:17:11] but I fully

[01:17:12] understand why

[01:17:12] people do

[01:17:13] it.

[01:17:13] My compromise

[01:17:14] is why not

[01:17:14] have special

[01:17:15] sing-along

[01:17:16] screenings?

[01:17:17] They do.

[01:17:18] They are.

[01:17:19] They are.

[01:17:21] On Christmas.

[01:17:24] That's awesome.

[01:17:25] December 25th?

[01:17:27] It was

[01:17:27] a couple

[01:17:28] weeks ago.

[01:17:31] My thing

[01:17:32] is,

[01:17:32] I always say

[01:17:33] this,

[01:17:34] but there's

[01:17:34] a difference

[01:17:34] between

[01:17:35] watching a

[01:17:36] movie for

[01:17:36] this and

[01:17:37] watching a

[01:17:38] movie for

[01:17:38] fun.

[01:17:39] And if I'm

[01:17:40] watching a

[01:17:40] movie for

[01:17:40] this,

[01:17:41] I don't

[01:17:41] want some

[01:17:42] 16-year-old

[01:17:42] girl singing

[01:17:43] behind me.

[01:17:44] But if I'm

[01:17:45] going there

[01:17:45] for fun,

[01:17:46] yeah,

[01:17:46] I want to

[01:17:46] be able to

[01:17:47] sing.

[01:17:47] So I

[01:17:47] understand

[01:17:48] both sides.

[01:17:49] Yeah,

[01:17:49] fair enough.

[01:17:50] I just

[01:17:50] don't want

[01:17:51] to be in

[01:17:51] the theater

[01:17:53] with somebody

[01:17:53] who's just

[01:17:54] gone through a

[01:17:54] breakup who

[01:17:55] starts literally

[01:17:56] shrinking,

[01:17:57] -defying gravity.

[01:17:59] stop it.

[01:18:00] Stop it.

[01:18:01] Stop it.

[01:18:02] Oh my

[01:18:02] God,

[01:18:03] stop it.

[01:18:04] Stop it.

[01:18:06] Stop it.

[01:18:07] Stop it.

[01:18:08] Oh my

[01:18:09] God,

[01:18:09] shut up.

[01:18:10] Oh my

[01:18:10] God.

[01:18:10] Shut up.

[01:18:12] I'm

[01:18:13] flying somewhere

[01:18:14] at least

[01:18:15] that's

[01:18:15] flying free.

[01:18:17] Yeah.

[01:18:18] Oh my

[01:18:19] God,

[01:18:19] shut up.

[01:18:20] Oh my

[01:18:20] God.

[01:18:22] Yeah,

[01:18:22] I love that

[01:18:23] song.

[01:18:30] I sure

[01:18:31] didn't do

[01:18:32] that.

[01:18:32] What?

[01:18:34] See,

[01:18:35] that's why

[01:18:35] I'm going to

[01:18:36] watch it at

[01:18:36] home like

[01:18:36] God intended

[01:18:37] where I

[01:18:37] can sing

[01:18:38] to my

[01:18:38] heart's

[01:18:38] content.

[01:18:40] Oh,

[01:18:41] it was

[01:18:41] funny though.

[01:18:43] I heard

[01:18:44] somebody,

[01:18:44] I don't know

[01:18:45] who said

[01:18:45] it,

[01:18:45] but in

[01:18:46] the scene

[01:18:46] where

[01:18:46] Melinda

[01:18:49] convinces

[01:18:49] Bach to

[01:18:50] ask out

[01:18:50] Nessa,

[01:18:51] somebody in

[01:18:51] my theater

[01:18:52] just went,

[01:18:52] bitch.

[01:18:56] That's funny.

[01:18:57] See,

[01:18:58] man,

[01:18:58] that's why

[01:18:59] I was like,

[01:18:59] well,

[01:18:59] why do you

[01:19:00] still want to

[01:19:01] go to the

[01:19:01] theaters?

[01:19:02] I'm like,

[01:19:02] that's why,

[01:19:02] man,

[01:19:03] moments like

[01:19:03] that.

[01:19:04] Oh,

[01:19:04] no,

[01:19:05] see,

[01:19:05] I love going

[01:19:06] to the theater

[01:19:06] because I'll

[01:19:07] tell you what,

[01:19:08] there's going to

[01:19:08] be a lot of

[01:19:09] people that wait

[01:19:10] for this to

[01:19:10] come to

[01:19:10] streaming and

[01:19:11] that's a

[01:19:11] mistake.

[01:19:12] This is a

[01:19:13] movie that

[01:19:15] needs to be

[01:19:16] seen in a

[01:19:16] theater and

[01:19:17] there's a lot

[01:19:17] of movies like

[01:19:18] that.

[01:19:19] Like I said

[01:19:19] the same

[01:19:19] thing about.

[01:19:21] I'm upset

[01:19:21] that I didn't

[01:19:22] see it in

[01:19:22] IMAX because

[01:19:24] I mean,

[01:19:24] it was good,

[01:19:25] it was good,

[01:19:26] it was good,

[01:19:27] but I'm going

[01:19:27] to go back

[01:19:28] and see it in

[01:19:29] IMAX.

[01:19:29] Do you have

[01:19:30] an AMC near

[01:19:32] you,

[01:19:32] Haley?

[01:19:33] We do not.

[01:19:34] Ours,

[01:19:35] ours closed.

[01:19:37] Because I was

[01:19:38] going to suggest

[01:19:39] if you have,

[01:19:41] hot take,

[01:19:42] but anyone

[01:19:43] who's actually

[01:19:43] done this will

[01:19:44] agree with me.

[01:19:45] I'm not huge

[01:19:46] on IMAX.

[01:19:47] I'm really

[01:19:48] big on

[01:19:49] Dolby.

[01:19:50] AMC Dolby.

[01:19:51] We have

[01:19:52] an equivalent

[01:19:52] to that.

[01:19:53] It's called

[01:19:53] Ultra AVX.

[01:19:54] Yeah,

[01:19:54] it's better.

[01:19:55] It's a better

[01:19:56] experience.

[01:19:57] I don't give a

[01:19:57] shit about the

[01:19:57] screen size.

[01:19:58] It's big enough.

[01:19:59] I care about

[01:19:59] the moving

[01:20:00] sound,

[01:20:01] the high

[01:20:01] color contrast,

[01:20:02] and just

[01:20:03] it's better.

[01:20:04] I saw

[01:20:05] 1917.

[01:20:06] It was my

[01:20:06] first movie

[01:20:07] that I saw

[01:20:08] in Dolby,

[01:20:08] and I just

[01:20:09] happened to

[01:20:09] incidentally,

[01:20:10] because it

[01:20:10] was only

[01:20:11] available in

[01:20:11] Dolby,

[01:20:12] so I was

[01:20:12] like,

[01:20:12] what's

[01:20:12] Dolby?

[01:20:13] They're

[01:20:13] like,

[01:20:13] it's,

[01:20:14] you know,

[01:20:14] 5D sound,

[01:20:15] and I'm

[01:20:15] like,

[01:20:15] oh,

[01:20:16] okay,

[01:20:16] I don't