The Final Frontier Season 1 Episode 15: Irishmen, Tigers & Samurai Oh My!

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[00:00:27] The Final Frontier Podcast. These are the voyages of Jake Boger and Justin Spur. Our weekly mission to explore memories of Star Trek's strange new worlds, to recall the search for new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has had the spare time to go before.

[00:00:46] The Final Frontier Podcast. As always, we are your crew, Jake and Justin. How we doing, Justin? You feel like you need, uh, you just, you've been working really hard, so hard, and you feel like you need a vacation.

[00:01:50] Yeah. Yeah, I've had that thought.

[00:01:53] Well, that's exactly what the Enterprise crew feels like in this episode. That's right, we are talking about Star Trek, the original series, Season 1, Episode 14, Thor leave.

[00:02:03] But, a little birdie told me, which isn't supposed to be on the planet, you'll get that joke here in a moment, uh, that the planet is not quite as tranquil as it may seem.

[00:02:14] Or it is as tranquil as it may seem?

[00:02:16] We'll get there. Anyway, this episode, this episode takes place between Stardates 3025.3 and 3025.8. The in-universe date is the year 2267, and the original air date for this episode, right after Christmas, December 29th, 1966.

[00:02:34] Yeah, I am surprised, um, that it aired so close to Christmas. And that it is, if in fact did air so close to Christmas, it's not a Christmas episode.

[00:02:45] Well, it, I don't know how, well, it's funny.

[00:02:48] I guess it technically is, because it's a vacation episode, I suppose.

[00:02:50] Uh, I, I, to me, um, Dagger of the Mind would be more of a Christmas episode because of the Helen Noel of it all.

[00:02:59] Okay. Good point. Solid point.

[00:03:01] We now, we now know that Star Trek at, at least in this time of the original series, um, they still celebrate Christmas because Kirk met her at a Christmas party.

[00:03:13] That he did. Yes, yes.

[00:03:15] And then bang her in the botany lab.

[00:03:16] Exactly, so they could have had a, had a bang her in the botany lab. Ooh, I like, like a little bit of alliteration.

[00:03:21] And Sulu saw the whole thing.

[00:03:24] Sulu saw the whole thing. Oh my.

[00:03:27] I was just taking care of my plants and all of the sudden.

[00:03:31] Why he has a, why he has a botany lab.

[00:03:35] I just feel like that's something where like, once Sulu like made a noise and they both turned and Sulu would just be like, I was just in here taking care of my plants.

[00:03:42] And Kirk just locks eyes with him and goes, nerd, get out.

[00:03:48] Even though this, this show goes out of its way to try to play, Kirk is a massive nerd.

[00:03:53] I know he doesn't look it, but he got beat up in high school.

[00:03:58] He did get beat up in the Academy.

[00:04:00] Yes, he did.

[00:04:01] I mean, I, yeah, this show has a, this episode is a very, we have differing ideas on what a prank is.

[00:04:07] We'll get there.

[00:04:08] We'll get there.

[00:04:09] 1960s pranks hit different and harder apparently.

[00:04:14] So this, this episode was written by Theodore Sturgeon and is directed by Robert Sparr.

[00:04:20] Not to be confused with Robert Spur.

[00:04:23] You said Sturgeon and my brain went, I mean, this episode is a bit fishy.

[00:04:27] So apparently this is the same Sturgeon who was responsible for Sturgeon's law.

[00:04:31] I don't know if you're familiar with that.

[00:04:32] Cause I wasn't.

[00:04:33] No.

[00:04:34] Sturgeon's law is a basic law of like storytelling and writing that 90% of everything is crap.

[00:04:42] Explain.

[00:04:43] That's, that's what it is.

[00:04:44] That's what it is.

[00:04:45] 90% of everything ever written is crap.

[00:04:48] Oh, I see.

[00:04:49] Yeah.

[00:04:49] I could see that.

[00:04:50] See that.

[00:04:51] Yeah.

[00:04:52] And apparently people, people thought that this episode was the inspiration for that, but no,

[00:04:56] he had come up with it in 1951, long before this episode.

[00:04:59] And that this episode is crap.

[00:05:02] See, I don't.

[00:05:03] Okay.

[00:05:04] Okay.

[00:05:04] The episode is not.

[00:05:05] I don't think it is though.

[00:05:06] The episode is not, but there are many elements that are crap.

[00:05:09] If that makes any sense.

[00:05:12] Yeah.

[00:05:12] Okay.

[00:05:12] A little, I mean, I will say it's really, it's really like, I was going to say felt safe.

[00:05:18] I will say that at the end.

[00:05:20] Yeah.

[00:05:21] I, I do believe this to be true.

[00:05:23] 90% of this episode is crap, but the 10% that isn't crap is enough to elevate.

[00:05:28] Interesting.

[00:05:29] I, I, I still really enjoyed it.

[00:05:32] I, I really enjoyed it.

[00:05:33] I mean, it's fun.

[00:05:35] There's no denying that it's fun.

[00:05:37] It's a very fun episode, but it, it's not sort of stereotypically.

[00:05:42] I mean, it is stereotypically Star Trek though.

[00:05:44] That's the thing.

[00:05:44] But there is this weird upon my rewatch, this current rewatch of the series.

[00:05:48] I, it has become very clear to me that there is this sort of cultural idea of what Star Trek

[00:05:53] is.

[00:05:54] And then there is what Star Trek actually is.

[00:05:56] Yeah.

[00:05:57] And Star Trek in actuality is much sillier than people tend to, or like to think.

[00:06:05] It's funny because we, we, we, we had this conversation on another podcast.

[00:06:09] I can't remember which one, but there's a similar idea for me about Power Rangers, which

[00:06:14] the cultural idea of Power Rangers is drastically different than what Power Rangers actually was.

[00:06:20] Um, and I think the cultural idea of Power Rangers is represented in that new Power Ranger

[00:06:26] special where it remembers it much sillier than it is, whereas the original Power Rangers

[00:06:30] was quite a bit darker than people remember.

[00:06:33] And so I think it's interesting because like with Star Trek, it's kind of like the opposite.

[00:06:36] It's far sillier than people maybe remember, which I, that's why I like it.

[00:06:41] Like this episode is 90% fight sequence.

[00:06:44] And that's amazing.

[00:06:45] 90% too long fight sequence, but, uh, we will get there.

[00:06:48] So another fun fact about this episode specifically is, um, by the time this episode was approved

[00:06:55] for pre-production, Gene Roddenberry had been basically working nonstop for two straight

[00:07:00] years with no breaks.

[00:07:01] Um, first producing the Lieutenant, which was a series that, uh, he had produced before

[00:07:07] Star Trek and then selling Star Trek to NBC and finally getting the series into production

[00:07:11] just after this episode was approved, his wife and doctor insisted that he finally take

[00:07:17] a vacation.

[00:07:18] And the irony is that there were some, but there were some butting of heads in the writing

[00:07:22] of this script.

[00:07:24] And so in, in the midst of production, Gene Roddenberry was rewriting a tremendous amount

[00:07:31] of this script.

[00:07:31] Apparently he set up shop under a tree on set.

[00:07:35] Interesting.

[00:07:36] Cause that makes sense because this episode feels like there's more to it that never get

[00:07:41] explained.

[00:07:42] Like it really feels like it, I, I, I, I look, I may have, I may have now seen this

[00:07:47] episode twice for reasons, but I realized this time that there's a real hand waving away

[00:07:52] of the drama and, and, uh, we'll get there.

[00:07:56] I have, I have an alternative joke for the end of this episode that I'm going to pitch.

[00:08:00] There do seem to be, there are a lot of moments in this episode where things come out of nowhere,

[00:08:05] but the interesting thing about this episode is that's sort of the theme is things come

[00:08:09] out of nowhere, but some seem to really come out of nowhere.

[00:08:13] I really do.

[00:08:14] And I mean, the, the Gene Roddenberry.

[00:08:16] Yeah.

[00:08:17] I could see why he wrote this at the end of an exhaustive fest because man, this, this

[00:08:21] episode is a fever dream.

[00:08:22] Real fever dream.

[00:08:23] It is.

[00:08:24] It is hardcore, but our adventure begins with the USS Enterprise arriving at a planet in the

[00:08:30] Omicron Delta system.

[00:08:32] Scans reveal the planet is a lush and green paradise, but that there is no animal or insect

[00:08:37] life of any kind.

[00:08:38] The crew is exhausted after three months of operations.

[00:08:41] So Captain Kirk announces shore leave for off-duty personnel.

[00:08:45] But first he orders survey parties down to scout the planet.

[00:08:48] Cause you know, new planet.

[00:08:51] You don't want to just send people down there willy nilly.

[00:08:53] I mean, they might be accosted by a white rabbit and a young girl.

[00:08:56] So I have to do my, my notes on the Paramount plus description, which is referencing the fact

[00:09:03] that they're on shore leave and their thoughts come to life, which my first note is shore leave.

[00:09:10] Nothing bad ever happens on shore leave.

[00:09:12] We all know we've all watched SVU.

[00:09:16] And I feel like Kirk's mind is probably going to be filthy.

[00:09:19] Spoiler alert.

[00:09:20] It is.

[00:09:21] Spoiler alert.

[00:09:22] And, uh, the crew's thoughts, uh, come to life.

[00:09:25] Do they mean this literally?

[00:09:27] Are they, or is it like a metaphorical, like it's all in their head kind of episode that

[00:09:32] those were my questions.

[00:09:35] Yes.

[00:09:35] And I would like to point out for those of you that have watched the episode along with

[00:09:39] us, you know what I'm talking about.

[00:09:40] Kirk spends quite a bit more time thinking about a man.

[00:09:45] He wants to tussle with a man more than he wants to talk.

[00:09:47] I mean, he does seem, he does seem to be oddly.

[00:09:50] Really preoccupied with this.

[00:09:52] Uh, but you also might notice that Kirk has a new yeoman.

[00:09:55] Yes, I did.

[00:09:56] I noticed it.

[00:09:57] I'm like, Oh, he's got a new yeoman.

[00:09:58] Well, first they noticed it as the woman who was giving him a massage.

[00:10:01] And I'm like, this feels very me too.

[00:10:03] Okay.

[00:10:04] To be fair though, to be fair though, he did think it was Spock.

[00:10:07] He died.

[00:10:07] Yeah.

[00:10:07] To be fair.

[00:10:08] He did think it was Spock.

[00:10:09] He seemed really disappointed that it wasn't Spock.

[00:10:13] Disappointed and kind of like, it's weird because you would, okay.

[00:10:16] Like in a, in a sort of, which, I mean, the 23rd century we've already seen

[00:10:20] is quite a bit more liberal.

[00:10:21] Um, but you would think by 1960 sensibilities, he would look back to see a woman rubbing

[00:10:26] his back and be relieved, but he has very much the opposite reaction.

[00:10:29] He wanted, he wanted a strong Vulcan.

[00:10:31] He wanted a strong Vulcan grip.

[00:10:34] Yeah.

[00:10:34] And he said, I've got a note here that I can't remember the context for that just says Kirk's

[00:10:40] trying to play it cool.

[00:10:42] And I'm not sure what he was trying to play it cool about whether or not it was that he

[00:10:45] was disappointed that Spock wasn't massaging him or that the new yeoman was now massaging

[00:10:49] him.

[00:10:49] I can't remember which.

[00:10:50] Well, this implies that Spock has rubbed his back before.

[00:10:53] And I just, I want to see, I want to know what that first conversation was like.

[00:10:57] Occasionally Spock, I'm going to need you to go to town on my lower back.

[00:11:02] Is that an order captain?

[00:11:04] Yes.

[00:11:05] I feel like, I feel like that was a, that's a line in someone's fan.

[00:11:08] Like there's a fan fiction.

[00:11:10] That's a fanfic in there.

[00:11:10] There's a fan fiction where, where Spock is absolutely massaging Kirk.

[00:11:14] There's no way it doesn't exist.

[00:11:15] Okay.

[00:11:15] So hang on the, the name of this fan fiction tension between men.

[00:11:22] All right.

[00:11:23] All right.

[00:11:23] Good.

[00:11:24] Or tension orbiting Rigel seven.

[00:11:27] Tension orbiting Rigel seven.

[00:11:30] Yeah.

[00:11:30] I like that.

[00:11:30] That's better.

[00:11:31] Internet.

[00:11:32] Get to work on it.

[00:11:33] Right.

[00:11:33] We'll read it.

[00:11:35] We will.

[00:11:36] We will read it on air.

[00:11:37] And then in terms of the landing parties, I have a note about Sulu and McCoy are on a

[00:11:43] little date.

[00:11:43] And upon the second viewing, I noticed, man, yeah, there's some sexual tension there.

[00:11:49] Sulu.

[00:11:51] So Sulu doesn't flirting.

[00:11:53] He doesn't flirting.

[00:11:54] At least he felt like he would be doing some flirting.

[00:11:56] Well, I just think he was happy to be around all the plants.

[00:11:58] Yeah.

[00:11:58] That's a fair point.

[00:11:59] That's fair.

[00:12:00] He, he, he's a, he's a botany boy.

[00:12:03] It's kind of like a brony, but with plants.

[00:12:06] But with plants.

[00:12:07] Yeah.

[00:12:07] He, he, it's not, it's not sexual.

[00:12:09] It's not sexual.

[00:12:10] He just likes plants.

[00:12:11] I just like the smell of them to feel them against my skin.

[00:12:15] He likes them a normal amount.

[00:12:17] He likes plants a normal amount.

[00:12:18] I don't know about a normal amount.

[00:12:20] He is a tad excessive.

[00:12:23] No, no.

[00:12:23] He likes it as much as.

[00:12:24] He has his own botany lab.

[00:12:26] He likes it as much as a bro, as a brony does, which is a normal amount.

[00:12:33] I don't want to insult the brony community.

[00:12:35] So I'm going to leave that lay.

[00:12:36] I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to leave that out in the pasture,

[00:12:39] so to speak.

[00:12:40] But fun fact, this is the only episode in which the USS Enterprise is seen orbiting a planet

[00:12:45] from right to left.

[00:12:46] The shot was deliberately reversed in post-production because the shape of the Eastern United States

[00:12:51] and the Caribbean Sea can clearly be seen on the globe used for a model of the planet.

[00:12:55] However, I do believe that if you are watching the Paramount Plus version, it may be an updated

[00:13:01] graphic as well.

[00:13:03] Oh, interesting.

[00:13:04] So it depends on what version you're watching.

[00:13:07] I'm, I'm sure.

[00:13:08] But yes, as you said, Dr. McCoy and Lieutenant Sulu find themselves on a truly beautiful and

[00:13:13] peaceful planet.

[00:13:14] And it is also the first time we see a pretty planet.

[00:13:17] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:13:18] Very pretty planet.

[00:13:18] Also, I know, I don't know if I mentioned it last time.

[00:13:21] Everyone seems to be wearing boots and I don't know if I'm dumb.

[00:13:24] Have they always been wearing really like thick combat boots and I just never noticed

[00:13:27] it?

[00:13:28] They have.

[00:13:28] Yeah.

[00:13:29] Oh, okay.

[00:13:29] Okay.

[00:13:31] Even the women wearing the boots.

[00:13:33] Oh, okay.

[00:13:33] Cause for some reason I, I remember Yomin Rand having like more high heels, but she seemed

[00:13:38] to be straight up wearing boots.

[00:13:40] Now I'd have to go back and look, but I mean, the women might have a higher

[00:13:44] heel.

[00:13:44] I can't remember that now.

[00:13:46] I remember the bit where they were, when the previous episode where she's running,

[00:13:50] they're running to the building.

[00:13:51] Yomin Rand is, I remember her being in high heels and I don't think she is.

[00:13:54] I think he's in a more of a good walking boot, but you know, I could be wrong.

[00:13:59] You're going on shore leave to a, to a planet with a lot of a hiking planet as it were.

[00:14:04] You're going to be doing a lot of running in this episode.

[00:14:06] And this, this is true.

[00:14:07] This is true.

[00:14:08] I just had notes that Sulu loves this place more botany.

[00:14:11] We've already covered that.

[00:14:13] But yeah, Sulu at one point, he even says, of course, like, where are you going?

[00:14:17] He's like, I'm going to get some more samples.

[00:14:19] You know, it's like, I do think it's funny that the botany bit just keeps coming back.

[00:14:24] Like I keep, it's the bit that keeps paying for itself.

[00:14:27] Cause I just, it just keeps coming back.

[00:14:29] It's amazing.

[00:14:30] And I never noticed it before.

[00:14:32] I never noticed who's botany obsession.

[00:14:35] And it's just general obsession with hobbies because believe you me, that comes roaring back later.

[00:14:40] Absolutely.

[00:14:41] McCoy suddenly sees an anthropomorphic white rabbit.

[00:14:45] And a moment later, Alice from Alice in Wonderland.

[00:14:48] Bones took that good.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:51] I just love that.

[00:14:51] I love his look of like, huh?

[00:14:54] Well, that just happened.

[00:14:55] And my, my favorite, the whole scene for us to Kelly, she has such a good scene comedically.

[00:15:00] Like his comedic timing is so good when, when Alice enters the scene and she's like, where'd the rabbit go?

[00:15:05] And he went that way.

[00:15:07] And he doesn't like, he doesn't overreact.

[00:15:10] He's just, he just goes with it.

[00:15:12] And then finally, when he does react, he's like, Sulu.

[00:15:18] Like his entire, like, but the pro is him processing it moment to moment.

[00:15:23] It's just so funny.

[00:15:24] And it's like to him, that is a real rabbit, even though it's just a guy in a suit.

[00:15:28] Like, he's not like a kind of rabbit suit.

[00:15:30] Damn.

[00:15:30] It's a rabbit.

[00:15:31] Like I thought that was funny.

[00:15:32] Well, I do appreciate the performance for many reasons.

[00:15:35] Not least of which being the fact that the way he plays it off with his facial expressions is he simultaneously knows that he is seeing this, but he also in his own mind, at least the way I read it is.

[00:15:47] He knows that he is hallucinating or at least he thinks he's hallucinating.

[00:15:52] So he is literally actively like, I'm going crazy.

[00:15:55] Something is happening to me.

[00:15:57] I need to report this.

[00:15:59] Right.

[00:15:59] And then that's that age old, like, is the man who knows he's insane?

[00:16:03] Is he insane?

[00:16:04] Like, no.

[00:16:06] So therefore, he's not insane.

[00:16:08] Yeah.

[00:16:08] So this is a fun little tidbit for you.

[00:16:10] If you have ever asked yourself, legitimately, am I crazy?

[00:16:14] Am I a narcissist?

[00:16:15] Am I this, that?

[00:16:16] Which, by the way, I hate that word so much.

[00:16:18] It's become vastly overused.

[00:16:21] But basically, if you've ever asked yourself that question, now you may have participated in behavior, narcissistic behavior.

[00:16:28] But if you're asking yourself legitimately, am I a narcissist?

[00:16:31] You're not.

[00:16:32] You already passed the test.

[00:16:33] Yeah.

[00:16:34] Because a narcissist would never admit that they were a narcissist.

[00:16:37] Exactly.

[00:16:37] And a crazy person would never admit they were crazy.

[00:16:39] No.

[00:16:40] Yeah.

[00:16:40] Yeah.

[00:16:41] Same old, like, am I a psychopath?

[00:16:42] No.

[00:16:43] Because a psychopath would never.

[00:16:44] Yeah.

[00:16:45] So, like, he's not crazy.

[00:16:47] But, like, he has no rational explanation for it.

[00:16:50] And I just, I love, I love this episode is the search for the rational.

[00:16:54] I enjoyed that.

[00:16:55] And that's Star Trek, honestly.

[00:16:57] Which I love.

[00:16:58] I appreciate it.

[00:16:59] Searching for the irrational in the rational.

[00:17:01] It kind of reminds me of, in a way, my favorite, or my example of the skeptic within the show that's about the thing, like, the unskeptical, is Supernatural.

[00:17:15] Where it's like, yeah, every time one of these shows is like, oh, there's something fantastical.

[00:17:19] There's a logical explanation for this.

[00:17:21] And it's all about, like, sleuthing out what the logical explanation is.

[00:17:25] In a hilarious, just a hilarious bit of, I guess it would be art imitating art.

[00:17:33] But, I don't know.

[00:17:34] Correct me after I'm done.

[00:17:35] The first hallucination Dr. McCoy sees in this episode is the vision of a giant white rabbit.

[00:17:40] Six years later, DeForest Kelly would make his final non-Star Trek film called Night of the Lepus, or Lepus.

[00:17:47] A movie about giant killer rabbits.

[00:17:50] I gotta say, do yourself a favor and look up the trailer.

[00:17:52] It is delightful.

[00:17:54] I mean, I'm sure it is.

[00:17:56] I mean, it was made in 1972, and in true 1972 horror fashion, they do those, like, really quick zoom-ins on the killer rabbit.

[00:18:04] But it's a f***ing rabbit, so it's hilarious.

[00:18:08] So is it like giant rabbits attack?

[00:18:10] Is that the idea?

[00:18:12] I haven't watched the movie yet, but I want to.

[00:18:14] That's amazing.

[00:18:16] Because, like, I'm just picturing, like, giant rabbits, but it's like, it's like actual rabbits made to look like they're gigantic, and they're just doing harmless things.

[00:18:23] Those always make me laugh.

[00:18:25] The shots in the trailer are essentially just real rabbits doing harmless things.

[00:18:29] That's so funny.

[00:18:31] I know.

[00:18:31] That's awesome.

[00:18:32] It's delightful.

[00:18:33] Also, in the other timeline, I recall saying I couldn't figure out why Alice in Wonderland appeared.

[00:18:39] I got it this time.

[00:18:40] It was, he says it when they're walking around the forest.

[00:18:45] McCoy's like, oh, it's just like Wonderland in Alice in Wonderland, so that's why.

[00:18:49] Oh, okay.

[00:18:51] That's really interesting that I didn't even think about that.

[00:18:53] Yeah.

[00:18:54] I know, I know.

[00:18:55] I completely missed it.

[00:18:56] It's like something out of Alice in Wonderland.

[00:19:00] Even though I don't, I don't know necessarily that I would think that that looks like Alice in Wonderland.

[00:19:04] I mean, to be fair, my only real, like, interpretation of it visually might be the Disney movie.

[00:19:09] Which, by the way, her dress is definitely based on the Disney version.

[00:19:13] There's no way it's not.

[00:19:15] Yeah, because this was in 1966.

[00:19:18] That movie came out in the, I think, 1954, 1950.

[00:19:22] It came out in the 50s, so it's reasonably, it's about as fresh as, say,

[00:19:26] Frozen would be for us.

[00:19:28] Yeah, exactly.

[00:19:29] Like, culturally, and that was a big, I'm pretty sure that was a big movie,

[00:19:32] because I think by that point, Disney was a household name, I think.

[00:19:36] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:19:37] Disney was a big studio, for sure.

[00:19:39] I feel like, I feel like it went Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland.

[00:19:43] Because I feel like Dumbo came before us.

[00:19:44] I think so.

[00:19:44] I think they were being produced at the same time.

[00:19:46] That would be a Haley question.

[00:19:48] Yeah, it absolutely would be a Haley question.

[00:19:50] She would know.

[00:19:51] She would know.

[00:19:52] I don't.

[00:19:52] I'm so bad with dates.

[00:19:54] Like, I know eras, I'm bad with dates.

[00:19:56] Yeah, I can generally, I can generally pin the decade.

[00:19:59] But the actually, like, there's a handful.

[00:20:00] Like, I know that the original Godzilla movie came out in 1954.

[00:20:04] Like, I know that much.

[00:20:04] I know, yeah.

[00:20:05] But with Disney in particular, it's tough, because their stuff doesn't,

[00:20:10] it takes, in my opinion, Disney ages 10 years, mostly good Disney,

[00:20:15] with the exception of maybe the 3D stuff, ages 10 years later than it is.

[00:20:20] So, like, I think most of the stuff from the 50s looks like it's from the 60s and so on and so forth.

[00:20:25] Yeah, because they generally, well, the reason for that being is that they usually invent the techniques and technology that other studios go on to use.

[00:20:33] So, like, yes, a Disney film that was made in the 50s would look like general animation, high quality animation in the 1960s.

[00:20:40] That makes sense.

[00:20:41] Yeah, yeah.

[00:20:42] And, like, I mean, just, like, you can check a cheap DreamWorks knockoff.

[00:20:48] Yeah, but DreamWorks has done some, DreamWorks has done some good work.

[00:20:52] But you're right.

[00:20:53] I mean, especially some of the later films after the studio, after DreamWorks animation was sold off.

[00:20:58] Like a Balto?

[00:20:59] I love Balto, but man, that's a cheap-looking movie.

[00:21:01] Oh, see, I disagree.

[00:21:03] I thought Balto was quite nice.

[00:21:05] I like Balto, but it's nothing compared to, like, an Anastasia, like a big budget.

[00:21:10] That was low budget.

[00:21:11] Oh, but Anastasia wasn't Disney, though.

[00:21:12] Anastasia was Fox.

[00:21:14] No, no, no, that was Don Bluth.

[00:21:17] Yeah, yeah.

[00:21:17] Balto was Don Bluth, wasn't it?

[00:21:20] Wasn't that a cheaper Don Bluth?

[00:21:21] No, I think that was just DreamWorks.

[00:21:24] Hang on.

[00:21:24] Oh, was that just DreamWorks?

[00:21:25] Oh, now we're going to, oh, no, Don Bluth would not have done.

[00:21:28] Because I'll give you this, the animation does feel a little bit stiffer compared to...

[00:21:33] Yeah, from that, like,

[00:21:34] I like Balto.

[00:21:35] That genre of, like, cheap-looking, cheap-looking animated early or mid to early, late 90s,

[00:21:43] 2000s cheap-looking animates.

[00:21:44] Like, not Disney.

[00:21:45] I mean, it was 1995.

[00:21:47] We did an episode of that.

[00:21:47] It was 1995.

[00:21:49] Oh, I say that from a place of love.

[00:21:52] Yeah, let's see here.

[00:21:53] It's not...

[00:21:53] I think that's, like, peak Disney renaissance.

[00:21:57] Oh, wow.

[00:21:58] So this was Amblin Entertainment.

[00:22:01] Oh, it was Amblin.

[00:22:02] You're right, it was Amblin.

[00:22:03] Yeah.

[00:22:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:22:05] Not to say that.

[00:22:06] Amblimation Animation Studio.

[00:22:08] Right.

[00:22:09] They're the ones who did that run of cheap theatrical movies.

[00:22:12] They also did We're Back.

[00:22:15] Yeah.

[00:22:16] Oh, I love...

[00:22:16] I do love that movie, though.

[00:22:17] Hey, man.

[00:22:18] An American Tale is not cheap animation.

[00:22:20] Fievel Goes West is...

[00:22:22] Yeah, Fievel Goes West is very cheap.

[00:22:24] Yeah.

[00:22:24] But that was Don Bluth.

[00:22:26] An American Tale was Don Bluth.

[00:22:28] American New Tale was...

[00:22:29] I don't think he did the sequel, but the sequel went to theaters.

[00:22:33] I don't think he did.

[00:22:33] No, I think that was Amblin.

[00:22:36] I actually watched the sequel first, so my love is for the sequel, not the first one.

[00:22:39] Oh, man.

[00:22:39] But I love the first one.

[00:22:40] You know what's funny?

[00:22:40] When I was a kid, I much preferred the sequel, but as an adult, oh, my God, the first one is

[00:22:45] a masterpiece.

[00:22:46] It's really...

[00:22:47] I mean, all of this stuff is...

[00:22:48] It's really good.

[00:22:48] It's mostly good.

[00:22:49] It's at least...

[00:22:51] It's at least entertaining.

[00:22:52] I mean, some of the later stuff maybe gets a bit lazy, but...

[00:22:55] I mean, I'm an unabashed lover of the Pebble and the Penguin, and I know people hate that.

[00:23:00] Now, I will say, it does not hold up as well as it did when I was younger, but it's not

[00:23:04] a god-awful movie.

[00:23:07] It's cute.

[00:23:07] I like the one with Chicken Elvis, so...

[00:23:10] Oh, Rockadoodle?

[00:23:11] I love Rockadoodle.

[00:23:12] I grew up with that movie.

[00:23:13] I really like the animation in Rockadoodle.

[00:23:15] The story is incredibly nonsensical if you're watching it as an adult, but...

[00:23:19] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:23:20] We did it for the show, and it was just a riddle with plot hole kind of movie.

[00:23:25] Like, eh, don't think about it.

[00:23:26] Hardcore.

[00:23:27] There is a moment, though, that this is going to make some people laugh.

[00:23:30] There's the moment at the end when Chanticleer finally crows again.

[00:23:33] Yes.

[00:23:34] That always reminds me of Super Saiyan Goku.

[00:23:37] You know what?

[00:23:37] I can see why you would say that.

[00:23:39] I, because of that movie, I constantly refer to adequate pipes all the time.

[00:23:47] It's a running joke between...

[00:23:49] It's been a running joke between me and Jordan for, like, years.

[00:23:51] For every once in a while, come back up.

[00:23:54] Because you're talking about the nephew.

[00:23:56] Wow, this is a...

[00:23:57] We're diverging, but I have to say this.

[00:23:59] There was, like...

[00:23:59] I go through these periods where...

[00:24:00] Because I find the line hilarious when he's just like,

[00:24:02] Uncle Dookie!

[00:24:04] Uncle Dookie!

[00:24:04] Uncle Dookie!

[00:24:05] Yeah, that's...

[00:24:06] Oh, who is that?

[00:24:07] Oh, I almost forgot his name.

[00:24:08] He was really...

[00:24:08] He did a lot of...

[00:24:09] He was, um...

[00:24:11] Oh, he's the sidekick in All Dogs Go to Heaven as well.

[00:24:14] Like, Christ Scarface's sidekick.

[00:24:15] Yes, he is.

[00:24:16] He is.

[00:24:17] I can't remember his name, but...

[00:24:19] He's really funny.

[00:24:20] Really funny.

[00:24:21] Really funny.

[00:24:22] But yeah, also, before we...

[00:24:23] You know, we'll get back to Star Trek in a moment, but I have to say,

[00:24:26] could you imagine the Duke being voiced by Linda Young?

[00:24:29] Holy crap.

[00:24:30] That would be very funny.

[00:24:31] They're running out of...

[00:24:33] I can't do Linda Young.

[00:24:34] I can't do Linda Young.

[00:24:35] Yeah, I can't.

[00:24:36] I can't do Linda Young.

[00:24:36] It's not gonna happen.

[00:24:37] To be fair, Linda Young can kind of barely do Linda Young.

[00:24:40] So anyway, back to Star Trek.

[00:24:42] McCoy reports this, but Kirk disbelieves it, thinking McCoy is just trying to get him

[00:24:46] to also take shore leave, which Kirk had previously said he did not need.

[00:24:50] Meanwhile, Spock enters the room and tells Kirk about a crew member whose performance has

[00:24:56] deteriorated substantially.

[00:24:58] Kirk immediately, regardless of a crew member's right to refuse shore leave, demands that this

[00:25:03] person be sent down below and asks for the identity of this crew member, to which Spock replies,

[00:25:08] James Kirk.

[00:25:11] This moment's awesome.

[00:25:13] Spock got him.

[00:25:15] Friggin' got him, man.

[00:25:16] Got him.

[00:25:17] Got him.

[00:25:17] Just to look...

[00:25:18] Yeah.

[00:25:20] I was just gonna say, the look on Kirk's face?

[00:25:22] Priceless.

[00:25:23] I'm being like, I don't know, bitch.

[00:25:25] Like, he bamboozled me.

[00:25:28] You can't argue with it.

[00:25:30] Nope.

[00:25:31] Dang, it's so logical.

[00:25:32] Yeah.

[00:25:33] One touch that...

[00:25:34] It's a little thing, but I really liked it.

[00:25:36] Right before the scene starts, it comes back from commercial and Kirk is doing a captain's

[00:25:41] log.

[00:25:42] And when he's reporting the star date, he has this brief moment where he's like, star date...

[00:25:46] Captain's log, star date 3025.3.

[00:25:52] Just to show he's tired.

[00:25:53] Love it.

[00:25:56] Do you think it's intentional?

[00:25:57] Or do you think that maybe that was maybe a line flub that they left him from Shatner and

[00:26:01] it just worked?

[00:26:02] Either or, but in the inclusion was deliberate.

[00:26:05] Oh, for sure.

[00:26:06] I think it was intentional, but that's just me.

[00:26:09] Also, forgot to mention, before it went to the theme song, I had the question of, were

[00:26:17] the Looney Tunes around in the 1960s?

[00:26:19] Were they really famous?

[00:26:21] Because I just thought it was a real missed opportunity.

[00:26:23] Because he saw a rabbit to have Sulu go, what's up, doc?

[00:26:27] Like, I just, I still think that would have been funny.

[00:26:30] I think it's a loose enough reference.

[00:26:32] They could have got away with it.

[00:26:33] What's copyright in the 1960s?

[00:26:35] Really?

[00:26:35] I stand by it.

[00:26:36] Well, all the studios, like made backroom deals anyway.

[00:26:41] Except for...

[00:26:42] Exactly.

[00:26:43] Disney refused because of his losing of Mortimer Mouse.

[00:26:47] Really?

[00:26:49] That was the start of Disney.

[00:26:50] And Oswald, right?

[00:26:51] Yeah, I'm sorry.

[00:26:52] Not Mortimer.

[00:26:53] Mortimer, I'm sorry.

[00:26:54] Wow.

[00:26:54] I'm sorry, Haley.

[00:26:55] Mortimer was Mickey's original name, but it was changed.

[00:26:58] So yeah, you're talking about Oswald the Rabbit.

[00:27:00] My bad.

[00:27:01] Yeah.

[00:27:01] Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.

[00:27:02] Yeah, so after Disney lost that, that was the beginning of Disney's, uh, the Disney company's

[00:27:08] just penchant for like, we are never, ever playing fast and loose with copyright ever

[00:27:13] again.

[00:27:14] If you so much as put a picture of Mickey on your backpack, we are going to sue the shit

[00:27:19] out of you.

[00:27:20] I know.

[00:27:20] We're going to absolutely change copyright laws and ruin fun for everyone.

[00:27:25] The Disney Corporation, when you wish...

[00:27:29] Oh, there's a lawyer joke in there somewhere.

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[00:27:33] So apparently this is the first time in broadcast order, at least, that we hear Captain Kirk

[00:27:37] called Dr. McCoy bones.

[00:27:39] I'm not sure if that's accurate.

[00:27:42] I feel like he has at one point on the show.

[00:27:45] I thought he did in the main trap.

[00:27:47] I thought he did in the very first episode.

[00:27:49] I'm almost entirely positive he did.

[00:27:50] Yeah.

[00:27:50] Yeah.

[00:27:51] I'm almost entirely positive he did.

[00:27:53] Maybe he just calls him Plum and we didn't notice.

[00:27:56] Maybe.

[00:27:56] You know what?

[00:27:57] Yeah, somebody in the comments tell us.

[00:27:59] Because I have an intuition.

[00:28:03] I feel like he did.

[00:28:05] Fortunately, a consequence of podcasting.

[00:28:06] Some of the stuff kind of turns into a soup in your mind.

[00:28:09] So you're not 100% sure of the stuff you watched any one time.

[00:28:13] Yeah.

[00:28:14] It's odd how that happens.

[00:28:16] I didn't notice McCoy or I didn't remember or I didn't register McCoy saying Wonderland.

[00:28:23] So yeah.

[00:28:24] It's there.

[00:28:24] Yeah.

[00:28:24] I just it just happens sometimes.

[00:28:26] My brain is awash of Jojo Rabbit in Star Trek right now.

[00:28:31] Very conflicting.

[00:28:32] Oh my God.

[00:28:33] Yeah.

[00:28:34] Oh God.

[00:28:35] I enjoyed that movie, by the way.

[00:28:37] That's what I did get that movie.

[00:28:38] I just watched it this morning.

[00:28:40] After Kirk and his yeoman, Tanya Barrows.

[00:28:42] Was it Barrows or Barrows?

[00:28:44] I think it was Barrows, wasn't it?

[00:28:45] I think it was Barrows, yeah.

[00:28:47] That's easier to say.

[00:28:48] No, I'm not doubting myself.

[00:28:49] Barrows.

[00:28:49] I'm thinking Barrows, yeah.

[00:28:51] Yeah.

[00:28:51] Tanya Barrows beamed down.

[00:28:52] McCoy shows Kirk the tracks of a large rabbit.

[00:28:55] Elsewhere, Sulu finds and fires, for fun, a cult police positive revolver.

[00:29:01] Of course, Sulu has another hobby.

[00:29:04] I mean, I was just like, Sulu.

[00:29:06] Sulu, absolutely no gun safety.

[00:29:08] Just like, bang, bang, bang, bang.

[00:29:11] None.

[00:29:11] No regard for gun safety.

[00:29:13] I just love it.

[00:29:13] He's like, so casual.

[00:29:14] He's like, target shooting, Captain.

[00:29:16] It's like, you are firing into an open area where you know other search parties are.

[00:29:22] Shame, Sulu.

[00:29:23] Shame.

[00:29:24] Right?

[00:29:25] I think you mentioned how there never seems to be a gun.

[00:29:29] No one can see red flags on this show of like, hey, I just have to find this gun on the ground.

[00:29:35] Neat.

[00:29:36] Bang, bang, bang, bang.

[00:29:38] Sulu, where's your sense of investigation, man?

[00:29:42] Aren't you a little suspicious at all?

[00:29:44] Yes.

[00:29:45] I really love this, the sideline that he does.

[00:29:47] He's like, I don't have anything like this in my collection, which we now know.

[00:29:50] Sulu apparently has a collection of firearms.

[00:29:54] In addition to...

[00:29:56] I was going to say, I would have said a collection of weapons.

[00:30:01] Yeah, but he seems to have...

[00:30:03] I mean, yes, it's implied that he has both.

[00:30:06] Both firearms and edge weapons.

[00:30:09] Which actually, I think we need to bring another counter out to keep track of this.

[00:30:13] I think we need a Sulu hobby counter.

[00:30:15] Because our departed red shirts counter has been not used very much.

[00:30:22] So I think...

[00:30:22] So let's think about this.

[00:30:24] So Sulu's hobbies.

[00:30:24] We know he's into botany.

[00:30:28] Oh my.

[00:30:29] Yeah.

[00:30:30] We know he's into fencing.

[00:30:33] Oh my.

[00:30:35] Absolutely, yeah.

[00:30:36] I believe at one point it was alluded to that he was in...

[00:30:39] Shirtless.

[00:30:39] Shirtless fencing.

[00:30:40] Shirtless fencing.

[00:30:42] Well, presumably he's into shirtless stick fighting then, but we've never seen, so we can't confirm that.

[00:30:48] Cannot confirm.

[00:30:49] He's alluded to...

[00:30:50] If I'm not mistaken, he's alluded to being into boxing.

[00:30:55] Oh my.

[00:30:57] He absolutely has, yes.

[00:30:58] As a hobby.

[00:30:59] We find out...

[00:31:01] It's confirmed later that Sulu...

[00:31:03] Because Sulu's a helmsman, but he's a pilot.

[00:31:06] Oh my.

[00:31:08] Because it's confirmed later that he flew helicopters in his academy days in Star Trek 4 The Voyage Home.

[00:31:15] So what is that for?

[00:31:16] And now guns shooting.

[00:31:19] Oh my.

[00:31:21] So that's five solid hobbies.

[00:31:23] That's true.

[00:31:24] A gun hobbyist and a sword hobbyist would be offended that we crossed, that we were like, it's the same thing.

[00:31:28] That's true, they are not.

[00:31:29] Oh, they're absolutely not.

[00:31:30] They're not the same thing.

[00:31:31] No, no, that's true.

[00:31:32] That's fair.

[00:31:33] One is honorable and...

[00:31:37] One solves a problem.

[00:31:39] One is honorable and one works.

[00:31:42] Yeah, exactly.

[00:31:43] One is effective.

[00:31:44] One is super effective to use Pokemon terminology.

[00:31:47] Just there was zero gun safety in this crew.

[00:31:49] Because as if Sulu's just open shooting of a revolver was bad enough, Kirk takes said revolver and then puts it into his waistband.

[00:31:57] Yeah, I mean, without putting, yeah, without emptying the bullets or presumably putting on the safety.

[00:32:02] I assume he doesn't know how to put on the safety.

[00:32:04] Well, and we're Sulu because he's the, he's the hobbyist here.

[00:32:07] He should be like, right?

[00:32:09] Captain, you really should unload that and make sure the safety is...

[00:32:11] Oh, you know what?

[00:32:13] I know I was just playing with this irresponsibly, but, but, but, but, but, but, you're just, you, you're probably more the wrong person to have this.

[00:32:19] I'm going to take this off you.

[00:32:20] You know what I realized?

[00:32:21] This is a literal Chekhov's gun and Chekhov is not in the series yet.

[00:32:25] Kind of.

[00:32:25] That is funny.

[00:32:27] Wait, is that, is that where that term comes from?

[00:32:28] This show?

[00:32:29] No.

[00:32:30] Chekhov, in this case, comes from a playwright.

[00:32:33] Oh, okay.

[00:32:34] Cause the idea of the Chekhov's gun is the idea that in this case, literally, if there's a gun in the scene, it will go off.

[00:32:40] So this is literally a Chekhov's gun?

[00:32:42] Yeah, it's literally.

[00:32:43] It doesn't necessarily go off.

[00:32:44] Chekhov's gun is, I don't remember the exact acts.

[00:32:47] I think it's, if, if there's a gun on the mantle in a scene in the first act, it has to be used by the third act.

[00:32:53] Yeah.

[00:32:54] Or is it like, it will inevitably will be used in the third act or is it that it has to be used?

[00:32:58] It should be.

[00:32:59] Yeah.

[00:32:59] It should be used.

[00:33:01] That makes it a Chekhov's gun.

[00:33:02] So in this case, it literally is a Chekhov's gun.

[00:33:04] It's literally a Chekhov's gun, but Chekhov is nowhere around, Captain.

[00:33:08] That's funny.

[00:33:08] I didn't even put that together.

[00:33:10] That's very funny.

[00:33:11] I just thought of that.

[00:33:12] I'm like, it's really funny.

[00:33:13] I was like, yeah, he calls it an ancient weapon.

[00:33:15] So yeah, there's no way Kirk knew to put the safety on.

[00:33:17] That's such a good point.

[00:33:19] The more you bring it up, the more I'm like, you know what?

[00:33:22] Everyone's concerned about gun safety.

[00:33:24] I just had a moment where I was just like, oh God, we're going to have a Cheddar Bob moment with William Shatner.

[00:33:29] I mean, yeah.

[00:33:29] Can you Cheddar Bob yourself with a phaser?

[00:33:33] Ow!

[00:33:35] Ooh.

[00:33:37] Hopefully it's set to stun.

[00:33:39] Yeah.

[00:33:40] I sent my phaser from kill to razor.

[00:33:43] Ooh.

[00:33:44] Well, apparently you can use a phaser to heat up coffee.

[00:33:48] Oh, really?

[00:33:49] Is that an in-universe thing?

[00:33:50] Yeah.

[00:33:51] I think it was in the last episode, actually.

[00:33:54] Well, not.

[00:33:55] Well, yeah.

[00:33:56] Hang on.

[00:33:56] What was the last?

[00:33:57] No, not the last.

[00:33:58] I was in the Corbamite Maneuver when they're in a very, very tense situation and Janice comes

[00:34:02] with coffee and she's just like, I brought coffee.

[00:34:05] And he's like, I thought the ship's power stuff.

[00:34:07] She's like, I used to hand phaser.

[00:34:09] Oh, oh my God.

[00:34:10] You're totally right.

[00:34:10] I completely forgot about that.

[00:34:11] That's funny.

[00:34:12] He just casually mentioned like, yes, I used a very powerful weapon of death to heat up a hot beverage.

[00:34:17] To waste time heating up coffee that you're not going to drink.

[00:34:20] Oh, he drank it.

[00:34:22] I was going to say he was nice enough to bring it.

[00:34:24] Drank that coffee.

[00:34:25] He drank it hard.

[00:34:26] Major Janeway vibes.

[00:34:27] But getting back to our story, then Yeoman Barrows reports that she is attacked by Don Juan,

[00:34:33] who tore her uniform.

[00:34:35] This is one of the things that seems to come out of literal nowhere, which says a lot in

[00:34:39] an episode where everything is coming out of nowhere.

[00:34:42] Yeah.

[00:34:44] Why specifically Don Juan?

[00:34:45] I will say it definitely made me question Don Juan because I was like, I know nothing

[00:34:52] of Don Juan beyond the fact that he's like in my brain, like culturally short for someone

[00:34:58] who's sexy.

[00:34:58] But like her distressed attitude towards him does not suggest that he is sexy.

[00:35:04] No, this is very much a free me to me to moment.

[00:35:09] Yeah.

[00:35:09] Where she likes to hear her clothes are all torn and she looks upset.

[00:35:11] But like my brain sees that in 2024 body language.

[00:35:16] She's like, that woman has been assaulted.

[00:35:18] Like, not like she's being seduced.

[00:35:22] I don't know.

[00:35:23] That feels like just a synonym, I guess.

[00:35:24] I don't know.

[00:35:25] Yeah.

[00:35:26] It's a, it gives really odd vibes.

[00:35:28] And presumably this is to elicit her putting on the dress that comes up later.

[00:35:33] But it's, it's really not necessary because I mean, put on the dress.

[00:35:37] You can put on the dress if you want to.

[00:35:39] Um, yeah, this doesn't really make sense.

[00:35:43] It doesn't.

[00:35:44] So I just wanted to bring up, um, uh, the cinematography, uh, in the bit when they run

[00:35:48] over to Sulu.

[00:35:49] Really like it.

[00:35:50] It's still really good.

[00:35:51] It's really impressive considering, uh, it's 1960s.

[00:35:54] It's a, it's a nice, like clean shot.

[00:35:57] I like how it like shakes it to, to give it energy.

[00:36:00] And everyone's like physic.

[00:36:01] The thing about the show I've discovered is everyone's physical effort is like, and like

[00:36:06] you fully believe that they are sprinting.

[00:36:08] Oh, because they are.

[00:36:09] Yeah.

[00:36:10] Yeah.

[00:36:10] They're full bore sprinting.

[00:36:11] And it looked, it looks impressive.

[00:36:13] It makes the show look more dynamic.

[00:36:15] Like my assertion that stuff that happens in space is boring.

[00:36:19] It's like, ah, it's not, it's not boring.

[00:36:20] No.

[00:36:21] Um, and you also like just more shout out because again, that kind of shot was a lot

[00:36:26] harder to do in 1966 than it is.

[00:36:28] 1966 on television.

[00:36:30] Yeah.

[00:36:31] Very, very difficult to do.

[00:36:32] And so kudos to them.

[00:36:34] It was funny because when I was watching this, I was immediately, my first thought was like,

[00:36:38] Oh, Tonya Barrows was definitely supposed to be Janice ran turns.

[00:36:42] I see.

[00:36:43] I didn't necessarily, I could see why you would say that based on how I could believe.

[00:36:48] Well, I could believe it, but also like, um, yeah, it's a bones, bones heavy episode.

[00:36:55] It comes to love.

[00:36:56] Well, but fun.

[00:36:57] So in fact, the original script did feature, uh, Yeoman Rand as part of the landing party,

[00:37:01] but as the character was written out of the series for things that we've talked about

[00:37:06] previously, see previous episodes for the story of why, uh, Grace Lee Whitney was written

[00:37:12] off the show.

[00:37:13] Uh, he was changed to Yeoman Tanya Barrows also in theater Sturgeon's original script.

[00:37:20] The Yeoman had a share of close scenes with Kirk, but in the rewrites after the recasting

[00:37:25] Jean Elkoun and Jean Rodberry changed these to feature Dr. McCoy instead and introduced

[00:37:30] Kirk's old Academy flame Ruth to the story, which she will come later.

[00:37:34] When it's the way the, all the, all the princess stuff that would happen with Yeoman Rand.

[00:37:40] And instead of it being bones, it would have been Kirk being like, but on the princess trust,

[00:37:44] that would have been Kirk.

[00:37:45] Presumably.

[00:37:46] Was that the idea?

[00:37:47] That may have been, I don't know.

[00:37:49] It doesn't, it doesn't specify.

[00:37:51] Presumably.

[00:37:52] But I don't know.

[00:37:53] Sorry.

[00:37:54] I was just gonna say with that dynamic and played differently.

[00:37:56] Sorry.

[00:37:57] Yeah, honestly, it would have.

[00:37:59] Another interesting thing is the other landing party we see with the, uh, the, the man and

[00:38:04] the woman, that girl is the same girl who was getting married in the previous episode,

[00:38:10] Balance of Terror, whose fiance dies.

[00:38:12] So in the immediate, in the next episode, she's hanging out with another guy.

[00:38:16] What?

[00:38:16] I did.

[00:38:17] I didn't, I didn't realize that, but yeah, that's.

[00:38:20] Ooh, she got over that kind of quick.

[00:38:22] Well, in her defense, if you are following star dates, Balance of Terror takes place, uh,

[00:38:28] the previous year in 2266 and under star dates, 1709.2 to 1709.6.

[00:38:35] So presumably some time has passed.

[00:38:38] Socially acceptable amount of time has passed.

[00:38:40] I mean, presumably.

[00:38:42] Um, and interestingly enough, earlier in the episode, uh, Kirk addresses her as Teller, uh,

[00:38:47] because in the original script name, the character's name was Mary Teller, but it was later

[00:38:51] changed to Angela Martine on the set when somebody noticed that that actress had already appeared

[00:38:56] as a named character in the previous episode.

[00:38:59] And in the credits of this episode, she's identified as Angela, Angela Martine.

[00:39:04] So I, I do appreciate that continuity.

[00:39:07] It does make it feel like, oh, this is a crew that's made of more than just the people on

[00:39:12] the bridge.

[00:39:13] Yeah.

[00:39:14] Yeah.

[00:39:14] Cause we see it with, um, Riley as well.

[00:39:17] Cause Riley.

[00:39:18] Two episodes.

[00:39:19] Yeah.

[00:39:19] Yeah, exactly.

[00:39:20] I, I like the, the, and also allows them to do more like dramatically, uh, cause her

[00:39:26] obviously interactions with this character are different.

[00:39:28] And yeah, now knowing that she has another relationship, it does.

[00:39:32] Like character was kind of not different, but it meant more this time.

[00:39:36] I was like, oh, okay.

[00:39:36] I'm actually invested in this a little more now.

[00:39:38] Yeah.

[00:39:39] Well, as we learned from the episode, muds women is lonely in outer space.

[00:39:43] Yeah.

[00:39:43] Lonely in outer space.

[00:39:44] And radioactive perfume is a thing.

[00:39:46] Your perfume is a thing.

[00:39:47] Back to our inseparate crew.

[00:39:50] Kirk is briefly accosted by Finnegan, a cocky practical joker who tortured Kirk during his

[00:39:55] academy days and later meets Ruth, the former aforementioned girlfriend.

[00:39:59] Kirk has horrible ADD in this episode.

[00:40:03] I mean, yeah.

[00:40:04] Oh, he's just really, he's really, he just really wants to beat up Finnegan.

[00:40:08] Well, no, this planet would be, just realize this planet would be extremely dangerous for

[00:40:12] somebody with like really bad clinical ADHD.

[00:40:15] I mean, we'll get into it, but it's never really established exactly the mechanics of

[00:40:20] how this exactly works.

[00:40:21] Like how long before the thing appears, like what exactly appears because they're obviously

[00:40:26] their minds aren't blank the whole time.

[00:40:29] So it just seems to be kind of selective about what appears.

[00:40:32] So like who's to say?

[00:40:34] Yeah.

[00:40:35] Yeah.

[00:40:36] And then the, the other note I had is who the fuck is Ruth?

[00:40:39] Um, well, my note on Ruth is just that Kirk has a type.

[00:40:44] He clearly likes his women blonde.

[00:40:47] Like them blonde.

[00:40:48] He likes them chesty.

[00:40:49] That he does.

[00:40:50] That he does.

[00:40:51] I'm not, I'm not shaming him for it.

[00:40:53] Not shaming him for it.

[00:40:55] I'm just pointing it out.

[00:40:56] I'm just over here thinking with all these like girlfriends slash affairs that Kirk has,

[00:41:00] like when did he have time to be a nerd?

[00:41:03] Right.

[00:41:03] Wait, how is he spending time at the library when he was with all these ladies?

[00:41:07] Also, I realized this time I hated her outfit.

[00:41:09] God, it's so bad.

[00:41:11] It's so bad.

[00:41:12] It's like this weird binary thing that neither the path, both patterns are so solid.

[00:41:17] It just, it looks bad.

[00:41:19] It gets bad, bad toga vibes.

[00:41:22] Right?

[00:41:23] Like, man, what is the deal with the cat, the Academy?

[00:41:27] Like, what are you trying to punish them with bad fashion?

[00:41:30] Yeah.

[00:41:30] Finnegan, man.

[00:41:31] Maybe it's just, often we talk about my 2024 sensibilities on this show.

[00:41:35] And I just feel like walking up to somebody and just striking them clean in the jaw isn't a prank.

[00:41:42] I don't know if you just, if you differ an opinion on that.

[00:41:44] That just kind of seems like an assault to me.

[00:41:48] Yeah, well.

[00:41:48] It just doesn't square with the version of Finnegan that Kirk was describing where he was like, where he was like buckets of water over your head and like, and like putting your hand in water to make you pee yourself pranks.

[00:41:59] I'm like, that doesn't square with just clocking in the jaw.

[00:42:03] It's not, that's not a prank.

[00:42:04] Well, see, what you're not realizing is that after that prank, Finnegan would come from behind the door and just clock him right in the jaw.

[00:42:10] Just clock him, right?

[00:42:11] He just thought he'd be standing there all wet, like, what the f***, Finnegan?

[00:42:15] And just out of nowhere, like, bam, with the right cross.

[00:42:18] He's just like, you've been finned again.

[00:42:21] You've been finned again.

[00:42:24] I mean, we're going to get into Finnegan.

[00:42:26] I love Finnegan.

[00:42:26] Oh, Finnegan is a...

[00:42:28] I love Finnegan even more the second time.

[00:42:30] While this is going on, Sulu is attacked by a katana-wielding samurai.

[00:42:34] I had trouble with this because I'm like, is this racist?

[00:42:37] I say, I was like, of course the Japanese guy gets chased by the samurai.

[00:42:41] Well, but, but, but, but it is established in the universe that Sulu and George Takei are both of Japanese descent.

[00:42:48] So, I mean, it's presumable, it's presumable that maybe he thought about it on his mind.

[00:42:55] But given his previous experience with sword play and fencing, Sulu's first inclination may have been...

[00:43:03] And I think this would have played better in the episode, honestly, is if Robin Hood had appeared and challenged him to a duel instead.

[00:43:11] I think that maybe would have been more interesting.

[00:43:13] But also, at the same time, with the sword stuff, he turned down the idea of the katana and they were cool with that.

[00:43:20] So, I feel like if he was disinterested in the samurai, he would have been like, nah, I'd do Robin Hood instead.

[00:43:26] So, perhaps it was his idea.

[00:43:27] Well, and then I know that we had kind of previously touched on before off camera.

[00:43:31] It's like, well, maybe, because a lot of these productions share studio lots and whatnot or they're close by.

[00:43:36] Maybe somebody was already done up as a samurai and they're like, hey, can we borrow him for like...

[00:43:41] Ten minutes?

[00:43:42] Yeah, to just chase, chase around Sulu with a katana.

[00:43:46] I will say the costume looked good.

[00:43:48] It did.

[00:43:48] It looked really good.

[00:43:50] Yeah.

[00:43:50] It did not look cheap.

[00:43:51] That's what I'm saying is maybe there was a film production like on the Sim Watt or something.

[00:43:56] Or I don't know.

[00:43:57] I can believe it.

[00:43:57] I don't know of any...

[00:43:59] I don't know of any productions that would have been featured...

[00:44:01] Television productions that would have been featuring samurai at the time.

[00:44:04] But hey, you never know.

[00:44:06] Who knows?

[00:44:06] I don't know.

[00:44:07] But it's a pretty accurate...

[00:44:08] I mean, again, everything I always say with that impressive piece, like with the asterisk of for television,

[00:44:14] like in the 1960s, like for a television show in the 1960s, is an impressive looking samurai costume.

[00:44:19] I will not take it away from the show.

[00:44:21] As Sulu is running away from the samurai, he runs into Captain Kirk, who immediately reports that he's being chased by a samurai and that his phaser doesn't work.

[00:44:29] Kirk tries his phaser and finds that it is also not working.

[00:44:33] Kirk then orders a halt on the shore leave, which I have a problem with the synopsis here because it says he orders a halt on the shore leave,

[00:44:39] but Kirk never authorized shore leave to begin with.

[00:44:42] He specifically tells Suhura to tell everyone to stand by before they beam down.

[00:44:46] Well, they were about ready to beam down on the results of the landing party's examination.

[00:44:56] Yeah.

[00:44:57] So, yeah.

[00:44:58] They were prepped to, but they were not authorized.

[00:45:00] You're right.

[00:45:00] So, synopsis?

[00:45:02] Bad synopsis.

[00:45:03] Bad.

[00:45:03] But Spock reports that the planet is emanating a force field that is drawing energy from the ship's engines and disrupting communications.

[00:45:10] The energy pattern suggests that there is industrial activity.

[00:45:14] One of the things I appreciated about this episode was Kirk's pragmatic attitude towards the situation.

[00:45:20] I appreciated how he just trusted Bones' judgment in that he's like, he knows that Bones is a reasonably sane, well-intelligent person, so he just believes him.

[00:45:30] And when Sulu comes up and he's like, oh, there's a samurai, he's like, that sounds crazy.

[00:45:35] The samurai's like, no, no, it's not that crazy.

[00:45:37] We've seen crazier stuff.

[00:45:38] I just appreciate his, like, pragmatic approach to it.

[00:45:42] And it's the thing I appreciate about Kirk overall is how he just doesn't panic.

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[00:46:19] So, when we last left our heroes, let's see.

[00:46:23] Bones had seen a white rabbit and Alice.

[00:46:26] Kirk had seen simultaneously angry and happy Irishmen.

[00:46:31] Very typically angry Irishmen.

[00:46:33] Who really likes decking people in the face.

[00:46:35] And an old girlfriend.

[00:46:36] And Sulu's being chased by a samurai.

[00:46:39] And he found a fun gun.

[00:46:40] Well, yeah, that was-

[00:46:41] Bang, bang, boom, stick.

[00:46:42] Yeah, I bet you he wished that Kirk hadn't taken that gun.

[00:46:45] Probably.

[00:46:46] And Spock has discovered an energy field.

[00:46:48] So, that is your synopsis thus far.

[00:46:50] Look at me acting like this is still old television and you can't just start from the very beginning.

[00:46:54] That's cute.

[00:46:55] Time codes.

[00:46:56] If we include time codes, we cannot be bothered to include time codes.

[00:46:59] Ah, but anyway.

[00:47:00] So, Spock beams down to gather sensor readings as communication between the ship and the planet degrade.

[00:47:06] Stranding Spock with Kirk and the survey parties on the planet with no means of communicating with the ship.

[00:47:11] After McCoy asked Yeoman Barrows to change into a medieval dress that mysteriously appears from nowhere, this is a weird thing.

[00:47:18] This scene made me uncomfortable, Jake.

[00:47:21] It made me uncomfortable, too.

[00:47:23] Because I realized in the second timeline that they're co-workers and it feels inappropriate.

[00:47:31] He's her doctor.

[00:47:33] He's her doctor.

[00:47:34] He's her doctor.

[00:47:34] He also almost feels old enough to be her dad.

[00:47:37] Just the whole thing felt.

[00:47:39] It just, it just reeked of, it reeked of an HR nightmare.

[00:47:43] Especially when he's like, put on the dress.

[00:47:44] Clearly, Starship Enterprise does not have a human resources department.

[00:47:48] I mean, I got, clearly.

[00:47:50] I just like, but he's like, put on the dress.

[00:47:52] I'm like, ooh, I don't like this.

[00:47:55] I don't like this from any of the characters.

[00:47:56] I don't like this from you, McCoy.

[00:47:57] But here's the thing, though.

[00:47:58] She wanted to put it on.

[00:47:59] And then when she says no peeking, I think she wanted him to.

[00:48:05] Don't peek.

[00:48:06] It did.

[00:48:07] It felt like she did.

[00:48:08] It kind of felt like she did.

[00:48:09] Maybe I'm reading too much.

[00:48:10] And maybe I'm like Bones and I read too much into it.

[00:48:12] Although I simultaneously chuckled and cringed at the line,

[00:48:17] Madam, when I peek, it's in the line of duty.

[00:48:20] Or he says, Madam, I'm a doctor.

[00:48:21] When I peek, it's in the line of duty.

[00:48:23] And I'm like, no.

[00:48:25] That's simultaneously chuckling and disturbing.

[00:48:28] I've heard that line in a different kind of movie before.

[00:48:33] Not that kind of show.

[00:48:34] It's not that kind of movie.

[00:48:35] It's not that kind of show.

[00:48:36] Not the kind of show.

[00:48:38] But yes, again, I just, I can't get over the fact that

[00:48:42] with everything that's happened up to this point,

[00:48:44] a dress randomly appears and she's just like,

[00:48:46] oh, I should put it on.

[00:48:49] No.

[00:48:49] The hat's a bit much, though.

[00:48:51] The hat was way too much.

[00:48:53] The hat's a bit much.

[00:48:54] I didn't mind the dress otherwise.

[00:48:55] Hat's a bit much.

[00:48:56] The hat was a bit much.

[00:48:57] I love how.

[00:48:58] Well, we'll get there in a moment.

[00:49:00] Something happens to McCoy and she's obviously concerned

[00:49:03] and she's kneeling down with Kirk.

[00:49:04] And I feel like Shatner's face wants to say,

[00:49:08] why are you wearing that?

[00:49:09] But it doesn't fit with the scene.

[00:49:11] I mean, his attitude is towards hysterical woman.

[00:49:16] Compartmentalized like, we'll get there.

[00:49:17] But she's wearing a ridiculous hat.

[00:49:20] It doesn't fit the tone of the scene.

[00:49:22] It's just going to be very funny if Kirk just turned to her and went,

[00:49:25] can we lose the hat?

[00:49:27] I feel like that's a family guy kind of wears.

[00:49:28] Like, yeah, but can we lose the hat?

[00:49:31] It's kind of distracting.

[00:49:32] It's a little weird.

[00:49:33] I mean, her uniform was torn and maybe she was holding it up.

[00:49:37] Maybe it was falling off.

[00:49:38] I mean, fair enough.

[00:49:39] But the hat, man.

[00:49:40] The hat was a step too far.

[00:49:42] Because she put on a medieval dress and it made her think of a knight,

[00:49:45] a knight on horseback charges at them.

[00:49:47] McCoy stands his ground,

[00:49:49] believing that all of these things are hallucinations

[00:49:51] and therefore cannot actually hurt them,

[00:49:54] which has been demonstrably untrue up to this point.

[00:49:57] I mean, it really has been.

[00:49:58] I slept the moment where the thing's charging at him.

[00:50:00] And he's like, he's like, hallucinations can't hurt me.

[00:50:04] And then he gets, oh, I've been stabbed.

[00:50:05] Hallucination can very much hurt me.

[00:50:07] Oh God, ow.

[00:50:08] Oh, oh.

[00:50:09] Because yes, Dr. McCoy is impaled by a lance and killed, presumably.

[00:50:14] He just kind of stands in the way and lets it happen.

[00:50:16] Kirk then pulls an Indiana Jones and shoots the knight with the revolver,

[00:50:21] Chekhov's revolver from earlier.

[00:50:23] Yeah, Kirk and Spock analyze the knight's body

[00:50:25] and define it as composed of the same material as the planet's vegetation.

[00:50:29] Elsewhere on the planet,

[00:50:31] a World War II fighter plane strafes other members of the landing party.

[00:50:35] The knight was creepy, dude.

[00:50:37] The knight, I will say, I did pause it this time.

[00:50:41] And I think it's a dummy when it's on the ground.

[00:50:43] I'm pretty sure it's a dummy.

[00:50:44] And it's a good dummy.

[00:50:45] The effect when, I can't remember if it's Kirk or Spock,

[00:50:48] when they go in and pinch the cheek,

[00:50:50] like that's a really solid effect.

[00:50:51] Because the wax dummy would be more rigid.

[00:50:54] Right?

[00:50:55] I'm pretty sure it looks like latex.

[00:50:57] It does.

[00:50:58] Like the way it moves, yeah.

[00:50:59] Like it's an impressive looking dummy.

[00:51:01] Or I mean, maybe it is.

[00:51:02] Maybe it's latex prosthetics on top of a person.

[00:51:05] Highly possible.

[00:51:07] But it's ironic to say that it looks good because it looked ridiculous.

[00:51:10] But that's what they were going for.

[00:51:12] That's what they were going for, yeah.

[00:51:14] Kirk, Kirk when he shoots the knight, Kirk solves the problem.

[00:51:17] Bam!

[00:51:18] Yeah, very Indiana Jones vibe.

[00:51:21] But...

[00:51:22] That does.

[00:51:22] It does.

[00:51:22] It is very Indiana Jones coded.

[00:51:24] So fun, fun bit about the plane though.

[00:51:29] And I felt really, I felt really good about this because I noticed it.

[00:51:32] And then of course I looked it up and it turns out I noticed good.

[00:51:35] So the first shot of the plane, it appears to have U.S. Air Force stars on its wings.

[00:51:40] Therefore making it an American aircraft.

[00:51:42] However, when they cut to a close-up of the plane, it's clearly not only a different color, but it's also clearly a Japanese plane complete with Japanese writing and the rising sun symbol on the side of it.

[00:51:53] So I'm just over here like, and it turns out they actually just used recycled footage for the plane.

[00:52:00] Um, well, so it's funny.

[00:52:02] Remember, in the other timeline we discussed who thought of the plane?

[00:52:06] That was a question we asked, who thought of the plane?

[00:52:08] I couldn't tell you.

[00:52:10] Well, I'm pretty, pretty, I think, now that I'm thinking about you said Japanese plane and we were like Sulu pilot.

[00:52:16] It's gotta be Sulu.

[00:52:17] I know we came to the conclusion of that of Sulu, but now I'm convinced more than ever, Sulu.

[00:52:21] Sulu thought of the plane.

[00:52:23] Sulu, stop it.

[00:52:25] Stop thinking about your hobby, Sulu.

[00:52:27] Quit thinking.

[00:52:28] Stop thinking about your ornate love of Japanese samurais in the middle of a high-stress scenario.

[00:52:34] It's inappropriate, man.

[00:52:35] It's inappropriate.

[00:52:36] During all this commotion, the bodies of Dr. McCoy and the Knight vanish.

[00:52:41] Spock asks Kirk what was on his mind before his vision of Finnegan.

[00:52:45] Kirk says that he was thinking of his Academy days.

[00:52:47] As Spock expects, Finnegan reappears.

[00:52:50] He proceeds to taunt Kirk before running off and Kirk chasing him.

[00:52:54] So before we get into the delight that is Finnegan, I have to point out that just because Finnegan jumped, he jumped over the rock, if I recall.

[00:53:03] He jumped, he jumped over the rock.

[00:53:04] Yeah.

[00:53:05] I actually paid it.

[00:53:06] This is the thing I paid attention to specifically this time because you mentioned it last time.

[00:53:09] Like, I have to pay attention to this frigging rock.

[00:53:11] Yeah.

[00:53:12] So Kirk proceeds to run over the rock.

[00:53:16] He jumps over it.

[00:53:18] He does.

[00:53:19] He jumps over it.

[00:53:19] Yeah.

[00:53:20] Yeah.

[00:53:20] It would have been significantly easier and faster to run around the rock.

[00:53:25] Yeah.

[00:53:26] No, I just, I feel like I, in my head, he only did it because Finnegan did it and he wasn't going to let Finnegan best him.

[00:53:32] But now Finnegan, Finnegan vaults over the rock and in a move that's significantly more impressive and Kirk just hops over the rock and a move that's not even remotely impressive.

[00:53:43] It's really quite, you're right.

[00:53:45] Like it would have been way faster for him to run around the rock.

[00:53:47] Well, especially since doesn't Finnegan like bank right anyway.

[00:53:50] So it just really doesn't make sense for Kirk to follow the exact same path.

[00:53:53] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:53:54] It absolutely does not.

[00:53:55] This is another one of those Star Trek moments where it's just like, it's taken them far too long to figure this out.

[00:54:02] I mean, yes.

[00:54:03] Yes, it is.

[00:54:04] It really is.

[00:54:05] It's just taken them way too long to figure this out.

[00:54:08] I mean, hey, maybe Spock had gotten down with the initial landing party and it would have taken him so long.

[00:54:11] He probably would have.

[00:54:12] Yeah, that's fair because Spock seems to figure it out pretty quick considering how long he's been down there.

[00:54:16] But for me, the moment Finnegan appeared right after Kirk was reminiscing about it, I'm like, oh, okay.

[00:54:21] It manifests things that you're thinking about.

[00:54:23] I thought there was a brief moment where I thought it was going to turn out that Finnegan was like a psychic bad guy.

[00:54:29] And he was the he was the villain the whole time.

[00:54:32] But yeah, it was very apparent that what they were thinking about was appearing pretty early on.

[00:54:38] So but hold on.

[00:54:39] We got it.

[00:54:39] We got to touch on the fight scene.

[00:54:41] We got to talk about the fight scene for the number one goes on for entirely too long.

[00:54:46] Far too long.

[00:54:47] But that being said, it's not bad.

[00:54:49] It's just too long.

[00:54:50] It's too long.

[00:54:51] It's I mean, it's everything I love about Star Trek in a nutshell like this.

[00:54:55] I think I think this might be my favorite episode.

[00:54:58] But like if you were to be like, Justin, what is it you love about Star Trek?

[00:55:02] I'd be like it's it's Captain Kirk fighting an Irishman for way too long.

[00:55:07] Is that Irishman hitting him over the side with a stick, which is easily where did he get the stick?

[00:55:13] It didn't really seem to hurt Kirk all that much.

[00:55:15] Why did he hit him with it?

[00:55:16] It doesn't even look all that cool, but it's amazing.

[00:55:19] It's pocket sand, pocket sand.

[00:55:23] It's it's just the whole thing.

[00:55:25] And also, yeah, it the thing about.

[00:55:29] Um, stuff from that era and when you did my podcast for the podcast, we talked about it with old Batman, where it's like from that era.

[00:55:38] It's just certain stunts where you can't fake that.

[00:55:42] So like when Kirk gets William Shatner gets like hip tossed, like it looks believable because it probably was real.

[00:55:50] And we've talked about that on this show as well.

[00:55:52] Well, yeah, there's a there's a certain sense of, I guess, practicality is the word that I still kind of use today because I'm a big fan and I understand there are unions and safety and all that.

[00:56:03] But I'm a big proponent of like we're here.

[00:56:06] The ground's not that hard.

[00:56:08] Just throw me and get it done.

[00:56:10] Like, don't bother with all the crash pads and have to shoot coverage so you can't see it.

[00:56:14] Just throw me.

[00:56:15] I'll I'll be fine.

[00:56:17] But what interesting I found that a lot of people is going to sound really weird, but are predisposed instinctually to not want to hurt people.

[00:56:27] Mm hmm.

[00:56:28] Um, it's it's probably like so, uh, for the movie I made that I don't know if everyone anyone's ever going to see it.

[00:56:35] But one of the gags we did in it is there was a the maid, an older woman had to slap me in the ass.

[00:56:42] And I just I kept saying harder, like, like, just go for it because it wasn't conveying on camera because she kept holding back.

[00:56:50] And every time I told her to do something that would like hurt me, I could feel her holding back.

[00:56:56] And so, yeah, I can I can see that when you have to do it, you have to actually do it.

[00:57:02] Otherwise, it looks inauthentic on camera.

[00:57:03] Yeah.

[00:57:04] And I ironically I had a similar thing.

[00:57:06] We did an Internet show a while back and the stunt was I was supposed to get slapped.

[00:57:11] And the thing is, I said, you don't have to kill me.

[00:57:14] But I mean, just just slap me like, yeah, just go for it.

[00:57:17] Because the thing is, if you half ass it, then you have to do it 40 times.

[00:57:21] I would rather just get slapped kind of hard once instead of to keep doing it.

[00:57:26] And so finally, I just I just said I said, just slap me and then we'll be done.

[00:57:30] And then we don't have to do this anymore.

[00:57:32] Yeah, I feel like you're not going to hurt me.

[00:57:34] Like there's so many takes where I can feel her.

[00:57:37] It was the it's the way it's so I mean, guess you would know it, but it's so hard to describe it where it's like I can feel her her like subconscious desire not to want to hurt me.

[00:57:46] And I'm like, it's making it look worse.

[00:57:48] Just do it.

[00:57:49] Like, yeah, just go for it.

[00:57:51] Just go for it.

[00:57:52] It's fine.

[00:57:52] I can deal with a temporary discomfort, which is.

[00:57:55] Yeah, I appreciate that in stuff that it makes it look more real.

[00:58:00] So this looks like a real fight and it makes it look more believable and it makes more enjoyable for me.

[00:58:05] Well, that's why that's why pro wrestlers make great action movie actors.

[00:58:09] Yeah.

[00:58:10] Yeah, exactly.

[00:58:10] Because they sometimes sometimes it looks like like professional wrestling on camera, but sometimes I'm Hulk Hogan.

[00:58:17] But sometimes sometimes it looks good.

[00:58:19] So then after the delightful fight, actually, I think we might be a little out of order here.

[00:58:24] Yes, we see the tiger when it's Sulu and Kirk, correct?

[00:58:29] No.

[00:58:30] First time we see the tiger is when it the chick who was formerly married.

[00:58:35] Oh, yeah.

[00:58:36] But when we see it, when we see it again with the first time we see it.

[00:58:40] Yes.

[00:58:41] Yes.

[00:58:41] That's that's when it went and it's worth Kirk and Sulu.

[00:58:45] And it was interesting because I was like the first time I watched it, that first appearance of the tiger, it does look like stock footage.

[00:58:52] I I thought it was stock footage like the plane.

[00:58:55] That's why when you're like, oh, the plane stock footage, it didn't surprise me.

[00:58:59] It does surprise me later when the tiger comes back the second time.

[00:59:02] That's when I was like, oh, no shit.

[00:59:04] They got a real tiger.

[00:59:06] Well, and the thing of it is, and I should have paid more attention because believe it or not, fun fact about tigers is no two strike patterns are the same.

[00:59:13] And that's how if you're at a place like, for example, I used to volunteer at a big cat rescue that takes in, you know, like abuse and neglected big cats.

[00:59:22] Because obviously you can't release them into the wild.

[00:59:24] They've been raised by humans and they are completely useless in terms of hunting actual prey.

[00:59:30] But each of their stripe patterns is basically like a fingerprint.

[00:59:33] So that's how you would tell them apart, presumably.

[00:59:36] So I didn't look to see if it was the same tiger.

[00:59:39] But the second time we see it, it's chained and has this big metal collar on.

[00:59:42] And you can see it's got a big metal collar.

[00:59:44] Yeah.

[00:59:45] Most of this episode was shot between, I believe it's called Jagged Rock State Park out in California.

[00:59:51] And then also at something Safari Zoo.

[00:59:55] So that would be why and how they had a tiger on standby.

[00:59:59] And I feel like, well, I know why they had the tiger.

[01:00:03] I'll just go ahead and go that now.

[01:00:05] The original plan in the script was for William Shatner to wrestle a tiger.

[01:00:08] And thankfully, someone decided to be an adult and said, no, we're not going to do that because that is the definition of stupid.

[01:00:16] I can't believe the part of the story that I can't believe that William Shatner wanted to do it.

[01:00:21] In my brain, I picture William Shatner walking in and being like, fuck, no.

[01:00:25] Like it's the fact that he wanted to do it is also unsurprising, but like at the same time kind of surprising.

[01:00:33] I suspect it's one of those things where he probably said, yeah, that would be cool.

[01:00:38] And then presumably he'd never been super close to a tiger before.

[01:00:42] And then he saw the thing close up and realized how big it was.

[01:00:46] And then was probably like, I can't wrestle a tiger.

[01:00:51] Because the thing about tigers is, I don't know, have you ever been close up to a tiger?

[01:00:55] I mean, apart from we have them at our zoo, but that's about it.

[01:00:59] Are they far away, though?

[01:01:00] Or do they get kind of close?

[01:01:03] Like close enough that you get an idea that they're big cats.

[01:01:05] Yeah, yeah.

[01:01:06] So if you've never seen a tiger up close before, you don't click how big they are.

[01:01:12] And there was a tiger named Felix who, at the place where I volunteered, you get pretty close to them.

[01:01:17] But they're in enclosures where they cannot, even if they want to, they could not get to you.

[01:01:21] And most of them are used to, well, the ones that are on tour are so used to people

[01:01:24] that they're basically big house cats, but it's still just unadvisable to be near them without separated by an enclosure.

[01:01:33] And you're not allowed to get right up to the enclosure anyway.

[01:01:35] Yeah.

[01:01:36] But you're close enough to get a sense of the scale.

[01:01:38] And, dude, I looked this tiger dead in the eye, and it just had this look on its face that was like, if I wanted to.

[01:01:45] Fuck around, and you'll find out.

[01:01:47] It was very much a, like...

[01:01:50] I'm not saying it looked at me like prey, but I got the feel of that.

[01:01:55] Like, I think with tigers, it depends on, like, how they're raised.

[01:01:59] Sure.

[01:02:00] Like, if they, yeah, if they're bottle-fed, they tend not to see you as prey.

[01:02:04] I'd say, it's like, well, it's like you said, the off-air conversation, you said that they will usually just kill you in play.

[01:02:12] Yeah, that's the most common.

[01:02:13] The best example, my neighborhood cat, he used to do this thing where if you played with him enough, he would eventually get on his back.

[01:02:21] Once he got on his back, his claws would come out, and he'd bat you, and he'd hit you with the claws.

[01:02:25] Imagine that, but it's the size of your face.

[01:02:28] Like...

[01:02:28] With a 500-pound cat behind it.

[01:02:31] Right, exactly.

[01:02:32] It doesn't mean to.

[01:02:34] Well, so there's tons of stories of, like, I remember this one case where there was a zookeeper that was...

[01:02:42] She lived, but she was attacked, which I say attacked in quotes because the thing of it is, when you know the bite force of a tiger, this cat was playing with her.

[01:02:55] But then all the commotion scared the cat.

[01:02:58] And based on its behavior, it's my belief that the cat was actually... the tiger.

[01:03:03] The tiger was actually trying to protect her.

[01:03:05] Because the tiger doesn't know what's going on.

[01:03:08] But she had, you know...

[01:03:10] I think her skull was fractured because her head was in the tiger's mouth.

[01:03:15] And obviously she had lacerations.

[01:03:17] But here's the thing.

[01:03:18] If the tiger wanted her dead, she would be dead.

[01:03:21] Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of...

[01:03:23] Like, there's a...

[01:03:24] There's a certain alligator expert who pops up in my 40-foot head.

[01:03:29] She drives me crazy because he's kind of disingenuous and is, like...

[01:03:33] Is being, like, this animal will kill me at any moment, at any time.

[01:03:36] It's, like, well, not really because you feed it and it's a smart animal.

[01:03:39] So, like, no, it wouldn't just on a dime kill you and eat you.

[01:03:44] Like, unless you've starved it.

[01:03:46] Alligators, no.

[01:03:47] Crocodiles, maybe.

[01:03:48] Because crocodiles...

[01:03:49] Crocodiles are significantly more aggressive for some reason.

[01:03:52] It must be just how their brains work.

[01:03:54] But, yeah, alligators, generally speaking, are quite passive animals as long as they're not hungry.

[01:03:58] If they're hungry, they will hunt the shit out of you.

[01:04:01] But...

[01:04:01] Yeah, exactly.

[01:04:03] Yeah, generally speaking, if they're well-fed, it's my understanding, which, of course, there's going to be some herpetologists that come and say, well, actually...

[01:04:09] And it's like, look, I don't know.

[01:04:10] But that's what I've always read and understood.

[01:04:13] And, I mean, it's worth noting, there's a lot of alligators in Florida.

[01:04:16] And you would think that if they were that aggressive, there'd be a lot more alligator fatalities.

[01:04:21] Exactly.

[01:04:21] But in regards to the tiger in this episode, I do...

[01:04:25] For me, because I've watched enough internet tiger videos and lion videos, you could absolutely...

[01:04:30] I've hit that point where you can tell in a movie or television when it's a pet tiger or a tame tiger.

[01:04:36] Because it's just like, this tiger's not aggressive.

[01:04:38] No, he's just chilling.

[01:04:40] He's just hanging out.

[01:04:41] Tigers that are raised in captivity can actually be pretty chill.

[01:04:45] Like I said, they're basically just big house cats.

[01:04:48] Yeah, there's one.

[01:04:50] They have very, very, very many of the same mannerisms.

[01:04:52] And actually, so the rescue organization is the Exotic Feline Rescue Center.

[01:04:56] You should check them out, EFRC.org.

[01:04:58] I'll put a link in the description for everybody.

[01:05:00] A lot of the cats on their tour, they have a lot of tigers.

[01:05:04] And they'll actually play with the keepers.

[01:05:07] Like they'll do the hide and seek game.

[01:05:09] And it's quite adorable.

[01:05:10] But you have to remember that this is a 400 to 600 pound animal.

[01:05:14] Obviously, they don't get in the enclosures and play with them.

[01:05:16] But they'll play with them like out from outside, you know.

[01:05:20] Was there keepers who like did get in with them?

[01:05:23] No, not never with the cat.

[01:05:25] So even to feed them, there are different compartments in their enclosures.

[01:05:28] And when they would come in to clean, they actually have an isolation area that they like.

[01:05:34] They use treats to get the cat into.

[01:05:35] Then they lock that and then they go in and do what they need to do.

[01:05:38] So, yeah, there's never just for safety reasons.

[01:05:41] There's never, which by the way, if you're ever going to a quote unquote sanctuary and keepers do get into the enclosure with the cats, massive red flag.

[01:05:49] Okay, I was literally going to be my next question.

[01:05:52] Like when you see like YouTube videos or whatever or like TikTok videos or whatever.

[01:05:57] And it's a person and they're like physically interacting with an animal.

[01:06:00] That's bad.

[01:06:01] That's real bad.

[01:06:03] That's that is.

[01:06:04] I'm not going to say there are never reputable organizations that do it.

[01:06:09] But they are certainly in the minority.

[01:06:10] Most of these people like there's this guy in Mexico, right?

[01:06:13] That I'm shocked he's not dead yet.

[01:06:15] I'm absolutely shocked he's not dead because of all the stupid stuff he does.

[01:06:19] Like gets into open enclosures with multiple big cats with no protection, no nothing.

[01:06:24] I'm shocked he's still alive.

[01:06:26] Yeah, man.

[01:06:27] I would never do that.

[01:06:28] I think big animals like horses freak me out.

[01:06:31] Because when I was when I was younger, you got to be careful.

[01:06:40] They're too strong and too like easily spooked.

[01:06:44] Generally speaking, I like horses.

[01:06:45] But there's a healthy respect there for sure.

[01:06:48] Because I also know this animal could kill me if it wanted to.

[01:06:51] Yeah.

[01:06:52] Yeah, absolutely.

[01:06:53] Yeah, absolutely.

[01:06:54] Certainly it could like severely damage me.

[01:06:56] It could really.

[01:06:56] But that's the thing.

[01:06:58] And that's what I always say is like there's animals out there that if it wanted to kill you, it would.

[01:07:04] So just remember that.

[01:07:05] Just have a healthy.

[01:07:06] Just have a healthy respect.

[01:07:08] Even domesticated animals like you said, horses.

[01:07:10] Horses are absolutely capable of killing a human being.

[01:07:13] It is not hard for them.

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[01:07:44] There's a lot of funny jokes in there.

[01:07:46] There's a lot of weird jokes in there.

[01:07:49] The Channing Tatum one will always make me laugh.

[01:07:53] It's amazing when you hear the behind the scenes stuff.

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[01:08:05] A really fun fact though is I learned last year that Laika, that Coraline was Laika and not Disney.

[01:08:13] Oh, interesting.

[01:08:14] I mean, I can see why you would make that mistake.

[01:08:15] Yeah.

[01:08:17] Because it does seem like it's a different.

[01:08:19] And to be fair.

[01:08:21] That would be a horrifying, terrible Disney movie.

[01:08:25] It would be.

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[01:09:13] So Irishman, Tigers, and Samurai.

[01:09:16] Oh my.

[01:09:17] The episode is drawing to a close.

[01:09:19] It's just like you said during the ad break.

[01:09:21] Basically the fight with Finnegan ends and then it just wraps up real fast.

[01:09:25] Also, that's the name of the episode, by the way.

[01:09:29] Tigers, Tigers, and Samurai.

[01:09:31] Oh my.

[01:09:32] Tigers, Irishman, and Samurai.

[01:09:34] Oh my.

[01:09:35] That's got to be the name of the episode.

[01:09:37] Amidst all the chaos and tomfoolery going on, an elderly man appears.

[01:09:42] Identifying himself as the caretaker.

[01:09:44] He goes on to explain that the planet is an amusement park.

[01:09:47] So it's an amusement planet.

[01:09:50] It's a whole lot of trust me, bro.

[01:09:52] Like this is legit, right?

[01:09:54] Yeah.

[01:09:55] Oh yeah.

[01:09:55] It's legit.

[01:09:56] It's legit.

[01:09:56] You're not like, not like zapping our brains and like stealing our thoughts.

[01:10:00] No, no, no.

[01:10:01] It's perfectly legit.

[01:10:02] Trust me, bro.

[01:10:03] It's the theme park nobody's heard of in the middle of nowhere.

[01:10:07] Okay.

[01:10:08] When you say it out loud, it's sounding sketchy.

[01:10:10] No, no.

[01:10:10] It's totally fine.

[01:10:11] Watch out for the rusty fence.

[01:10:13] The caretaker goes on to explain that the constructs created by the planet are not intended to be harmful or permanent.

[01:10:19] Accompanying him is Dr. McCoy, revived by the planet.

[01:10:22] And showing off two Rigelian cabaret girls he thought of after being revived.

[01:10:28] So Bones is a baller.

[01:10:29] Yeah, why did he get Bones, you dog?

[01:10:31] Bones is real horny in this episode.

[01:10:34] He's like, what?

[01:10:34] I'm on surely.

[01:10:36] Bones, what did you do?

[01:10:37] That's what he says, actually.

[01:10:39] He's like, what?

[01:10:39] I'm on surely.

[01:10:41] It's just so am I.

[01:10:42] There's a moment where she wasn't wearing the Alman's outfit before she put on the dress.

[01:10:47] That's all I'm saying.

[01:10:47] Oh, speaking of her outfit at one point, I'm pretty sure that the tear changes sides.

[01:10:52] I'm not sure because I'm pretty sure that when it's torn, it's originally on the right.

[01:10:56] But then when she changes out of the dress back into her uniform, she's like patching it up on the left side.

[01:11:01] See, I didn't notice.

[01:11:02] It looked to me like her uniform was back intact.

[01:11:04] So I thought it was like she just used the planet's wish magic to get an intact uniform.

[01:11:08] I mean, you would think, why didn't the planet get her repaired uniform?

[01:11:12] That would have been easy enough to think of.

[01:11:13] She probably could have been like, I wish my uniform wasn't broken.

[01:11:16] Oh, looky Lou.

[01:11:18] There it is.

[01:11:18] Look at that.

[01:11:19] But then when she leaves, does the outfit just like dissolve then?

[01:11:23] How that works?

[01:11:24] I think so.

[01:11:24] I think they just recycle it because it's made out of the plant material.

[01:11:27] Apparently everything is.

[01:11:29] So why would you not be mining the crap out of that?

[01:11:32] Because apparently you can make it into anything.

[01:11:34] I mean, how is Bones alive?

[01:11:36] How did him getting stabbed work?

[01:11:38] Like he got stabbed and he's like, I'm not stabbed anymore.

[01:11:42] Unstabbed, baby.

[01:11:43] There's no real explanation for that.

[01:11:44] The caretaker apologizes for the misunderstandings

[01:11:47] and offers the planet services to the Enterprise crew,

[01:11:51] cautioning that they must choose their amusements carefully.

[01:11:54] Kirk accepts the offer as Ruth reappears

[01:11:56] and authorizes the crew to beam down.

[01:11:59] I love the moment of like, he's like,

[01:12:00] no, I'm going to go back to the ship and get some work done.

[01:12:03] Spock, you can stay here and chill.

[01:12:05] But on the other hand,

[01:12:07] maybe I'll stay for a few days.

[01:12:09] So it's like, Captain Kirk, sir,

[01:12:12] what did you do to that poor innocent plant woman?

[01:12:16] Not about what he did.

[01:12:17] It's what he's about.

[01:12:18] It's about what he's about to do.

[01:12:19] Kirk certainly implies because he's like,

[01:12:21] maybe I'll stay for a couple of days.

[01:12:23] A couple of days.

[01:12:25] Hey, everybody, we're all going to get laid.

[01:12:27] Well, he just,

[01:12:28] there's a lot of sex jokes in this episode.

[01:12:30] There's a lot of sex jokes.

[01:12:31] And well,

[01:12:31] and then even when they all come back

[01:12:32] and everybody just kind of,

[01:12:33] even the yeoman is kind of grinning,

[01:12:35] like stupidly.

[01:12:36] Yeah.

[01:12:37] They just had sex.

[01:12:43] Yeah.

[01:12:44] Like the dopey grin of three people

[01:12:46] who just had a bunch of sex.

[01:12:48] Presumably the whole crew.

[01:12:49] It's like, how'd you get them to leave?

[01:12:51] Right.

[01:12:52] Maybe it's just funny if they all had wobbly legs

[01:12:55] as they walked back on the ship.

[01:12:56] Well, no, I know how they did it.

[01:12:57] So after a couple of days,

[01:12:59] the plant people started asking like,

[01:13:01] where's this going?

[01:13:02] Right.

[01:13:05] Kirk, we need to talk about our future.

[01:13:07] Kirk was like, Kirk out.

[01:13:08] He's like, I have a,

[01:13:12] chef.

[01:13:13] Short leave over.

[01:13:14] Short leave over.

[01:13:14] Everyone's short leave over.

[01:13:16] We are gone.

[01:13:17] Gone.

[01:13:17] Enterprise out.

[01:13:18] My thing is like,

[01:13:19] it's kind of a amusement park

[01:13:20] if they don't give them the,

[01:13:21] no warning.

[01:13:22] Oh, hey, by the way,

[01:13:23] don't think of any bad.

[01:13:25] Like just when you're down here,

[01:13:27] there should have been a sign.

[01:13:29] Right.

[01:13:29] Maybe don't think of tigers or

[01:13:31] the feel like like dying,

[01:13:34] even if it's temporary,

[01:13:35] has to be some level of traumatic.

[01:13:37] Well, but at the same time though,

[01:13:38] if you say don't think of tigers

[01:13:40] or dangerous,

[01:13:41] what's the first thing you think about?

[01:13:42] Oh, you're not wrong.

[01:13:43] That's all I can think of now.

[01:13:45] In case you really loved

[01:13:46] the episode short leave,

[01:13:48] there's more.

[01:13:49] There is an episode in Star Trek,

[01:13:51] the animated series entitled

[01:13:53] once upon a planet,

[01:13:54] where the enterprise crew returns

[01:13:55] to the amusement planet

[01:13:57] for another rest.

[01:13:58] However, the caretaker has since died

[01:14:00] and the computer left to run the planet

[01:14:02] now resents its role as a servant

[01:14:04] and turns against the visitors

[01:14:05] using the props

[01:14:07] and the personalities

[01:14:08] the visitors think up

[01:14:09] against them.

[01:14:10] So we will get there eventually.

[01:14:13] I'm actually excited for that

[01:14:14] because I,

[01:14:15] not that I think the animated series

[01:14:16] is going to have a horror bend,

[01:14:17] but I'm like,

[01:14:18] you know what?

[01:14:19] This would kind of be fun

[01:14:21] in like a Black Mirror

[01:14:22] kind of episode,

[01:14:23] kind of like dystopian

[01:14:24] kind of way.

[01:14:25] I'm like,

[01:14:25] like as a horror concept,

[01:14:27] this kind of works.

[01:14:28] And I,

[01:14:29] as I,

[01:14:29] it's a,

[01:14:30] it's a bit of a monkey's paw.

[01:14:32] It is a bit of a monkey's paw.

[01:14:33] And I did enjoy,

[01:14:34] I did enjoy the mystery

[01:14:35] of this episode.

[01:14:36] I didn't think the resolution

[01:14:37] was super clean.

[01:14:39] I thought it was kind of,

[01:14:40] it felt kind of rushed

[01:14:41] where it was like,

[01:14:41] what's the resolution?

[01:14:42] It's just a guy,

[01:14:43] a guy comes out

[01:14:44] and is like,

[01:14:45] don't worry about it.

[01:14:46] I would just realize

[01:14:47] this planet is just Las Vegas.

[01:14:50] Yes,

[01:14:50] it is.

[01:14:51] Cause whatever,

[01:14:51] whatever happens

[01:14:52] on weird dream planet

[01:14:53] stays on weird dream planet.

[01:14:56] Including herpes.

[01:14:57] Do you think Kirk

[01:14:58] pulled like a Bordas

[01:14:59] and got like six Spocks

[01:15:01] to just massage

[01:15:02] the f*** out of him?

[01:15:03] I mean,

[01:15:04] absolutely he did.

[01:15:06] That episode to this day

[01:15:07] of the Orville

[01:15:08] still makes me uncomfortable

[01:15:09] when I watch it

[01:15:10] cause it's just,

[01:15:11] but it's a really good episode

[01:15:13] and I love the fact

[01:15:14] that there are consequences

[01:15:16] to that

[01:15:16] and Bordas has to live with that.

[01:15:19] And I'm like,

[01:15:19] wow,

[01:15:20] this is really heavy

[01:15:21] and I like it

[01:15:22] from a narrative perspective

[01:15:23] but like,

[01:15:24] it's real heavy.

[01:15:25] The thing I love

[01:15:26] about the Mocklins

[01:15:27] is what starts off

[01:15:28] as a joke of,

[01:15:29] oh ha ha,

[01:15:31] there,

[01:15:31] it's a single sex species

[01:15:32] and they only go

[01:15:34] to the bathroom

[01:15:34] once a year

[01:15:35] but that episode

[01:15:36] about going to the bathroom

[01:15:37] once a year

[01:15:38] is this really emotionally

[01:15:39] like every episode

[01:15:40] where they appear

[01:15:41] is this really like

[01:15:42] nuanced take

[01:15:43] on like

[01:15:44] on separate societies

[01:15:46] and like traditional values

[01:15:48] and

[01:15:49] and yeah,

[01:15:50] yeah,

[01:15:50] every episode with them

[01:15:51] is like ultra interesting

[01:15:52] and super,

[01:15:53] super like engaging

[01:15:55] in a way that you're like

[01:15:56] not expecting

[01:15:57] from what could potentially

[01:15:58] be a one joke character.

[01:16:00] Oh,

[01:16:00] I want more Orville.

[01:16:02] Coming,

[01:16:03] season four.

[01:16:03] Any other thoughts

[01:16:05] on surely?

[01:16:07] I,

[01:16:08] again,

[01:16:09] I'm standing by,

[01:16:09] this might be my favorite

[01:16:10] episode so far.

[01:16:11] Like,

[01:16:12] it's a fun,

[01:16:12] I really enjoy it.

[01:16:14] I really enjoy it.

[01:16:15] It's just,

[01:16:16] it's everything I love

[01:16:17] about Star Trek.

[01:16:17] It's silly.

[01:16:18] There's a decent mystery

[01:16:20] just because I didn't

[01:16:21] love the payoff.

[01:16:22] I absolutely like

[01:16:23] every time a weird thing

[01:16:24] showed up

[01:16:25] when the samurai showed up,

[01:16:26] I was like,

[01:16:26] what the fuck?

[01:16:27] Like,

[01:16:27] like when,

[01:16:28] when it,

[01:16:28] when a thing catches me

[01:16:29] off guard

[01:16:29] or when Finnegan just

[01:16:31] showed up out of nowhere

[01:16:32] and Kirk started fighting,

[01:16:33] I love the fight sequence.

[01:16:35] Again,

[01:16:35] I love him hitting Kirk

[01:16:37] with a stick,

[01:16:38] pocket sand.

[01:16:39] It's really fun.

[01:16:40] It's well choreographed.

[01:16:41] The makeup,

[01:16:42] Kirk's makeup

[01:16:42] after he had gotten beat up

[01:16:44] was really solid.

[01:16:44] It looked like he'd been

[01:16:45] in a fight.

[01:16:46] I always praise those

[01:16:47] Kirk fights because afterward

[01:16:48] it looks like Kirk's

[01:16:49] been in a fight and

[01:16:50] right.

[01:16:51] Yeah,

[01:16:51] it's really good.

[01:16:52] And like the torn clothes

[01:16:54] make sense because guess

[01:16:55] what?

[01:16:55] Clothes get torn in fights

[01:16:57] pretty often.

[01:16:58] I mean,

[01:16:58] so much of that fight

[01:16:59] is him grabbing him

[01:17:00] by a shirt.

[01:17:01] It just makes sense.

[01:17:02] Yeah,

[01:17:02] it does.

[01:17:03] And again,

[01:17:04] it looks good.

[01:17:05] Yeah,

[01:17:05] very,

[01:17:05] just a very fun episode.

[01:17:07] Not super heavy.

[01:17:08] I enjoyed it.

[01:17:09] I had a pretty good time.

[01:17:11] It was a good time.

[01:17:12] This is why I love this show.

[01:17:14] It's a lot of fun

[01:17:15] and you should all

[01:17:16] join us on our voyage

[01:17:17] and watch it with us

[01:17:19] because the goal of this

[01:17:20] is for you guys

[01:17:20] to watch the episode,

[01:17:21] the viewers to watch

[01:17:22] the episode

[01:17:22] and then watch our,

[01:17:24] you know,

[01:17:24] it's sort of like

[01:17:25] an additional commentary

[01:17:26] but with a little bit

[01:17:27] more humor.

[01:17:28] But anyway,

[01:17:29] this has been

[01:17:29] The Final Frontier.

[01:17:31] Vacation is now over.

[01:17:32] Join us next week

[01:17:33] when we go over

[01:17:35] the episode

[01:17:35] The Galileo 7.

[01:17:37] Justin,

[01:17:37] would you like to take a stab

[01:17:39] at what we will

[01:17:40] see in that episode?

[01:17:42] So my guess is

[01:17:43] it's a group of seven guys

[01:17:45] and I think they're part

[01:17:46] of like some sort of league.

[01:17:48] Like,

[01:17:48] it's like Mensa

[01:17:50] but for smart people

[01:17:51] in the future

[01:17:52] for like physics

[01:17:53] and they're all,

[01:17:53] they're all,

[01:17:54] they're not all,

[01:17:54] they're not all named Galileo

[01:17:56] but Galileo 7

[01:17:57] is like the group

[01:17:58] and they've come upon

[01:18:00] like a major

[01:18:02] universe altering discovery.

[01:18:05] No.

[01:18:06] Dang it!

[01:18:06] One week I'm gonna,

[01:18:08] I'm gonna nail,

[01:18:08] hey,

[01:18:09] the one week I did nail it,

[01:18:11] I said time travel

[01:18:12] and it turned out

[01:18:12] to be time travel.

[01:18:13] It's true.

[01:18:14] And I completely forgot.

[01:18:16] The one week I was right.

[01:18:18] So one of these weeks

[01:18:18] I'm gonna,

[01:18:19] I'm gonna guess.

[01:18:20] Absolutely.

[01:18:21] I'm not just doing it

[01:18:22] for the bit.

[01:18:23] Yes,

[01:18:23] so we'll join us next week

[01:18:24] on The Final Frontier

[01:18:25] but until then,

[01:18:27] watch long

[01:18:28] and prosper.

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[01:18:40] you want to have fun fact,

[01:18:42] a fun,

[01:18:42] not PG rated fact

[01:18:44] that I learned today

[01:18:45] that I legitimately

[01:18:46] didn't know?

[01:18:47] What's that?

[01:18:48] You know that Hitler

[01:18:49] only had one ball?

[01:18:50] Really?

[01:18:51] Yeah,

[01:18:52] yeah.

[01:18:53] There's a joke,

[01:18:53] there's a joke

[01:18:54] in Jojo Rabbit.

[01:18:56] Oh my God,

[01:18:56] this is the weirdest side

[01:18:57] but there's a joke

[01:18:58] in Jojo Rabbit

[01:18:59] where,

[01:19:00] Stephen Merchant

[01:19:01] shows up

[01:19:02] as part of the Gestapo

[01:19:02] and he's like,

[01:19:04] you may have heard a rumor

[01:19:05] that Hitler only has one ball.

[01:19:06] That's absolutely not true!

[01:19:09] And then it goes

[01:19:10] into this huge thing

[01:19:11] and of course,

[01:19:12] you know me,

[01:19:12] that made me Google it

[01:19:13] and sure enough,

[01:19:15] yeah,

[01:19:15] yeah,

[01:19:16] that's a true fact.

[01:19:17] He passed a physical,

[01:19:18] he had some sort of illness

[01:19:18] where he only has one testicle.

[01:19:20] Oh,

[01:19:20] so he only had.

[01:19:21] For whatever reason that.

[01:19:22] So he only had,

[01:19:24] he had.

[01:19:25] Oh my God,

[01:19:25] are you Googling?

[01:19:26] Yeah.

[01:19:28] He had one.

[01:19:28] That's so funny.

[01:19:28] He had one undescended testicle.

[01:19:31] So it was there,

[01:19:32] it was just.

[01:19:33] It was just up there.

[01:19:34] I just,

[01:19:35] I just thought that was funny

[01:19:36] that there was an element

[01:19:37] of truth to that.