The Final Frontier Season 1 Episode 17: Bad History YouTuber With A Telescope

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[00:00:09] The Final Frontier Podcast. These are the voyages of Jake Boger and Justin Spur. Our weekly mission, to explore memories of Star Trek's strange new worlds, to recall the search for new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has had the spare time to go before.

[00:01:17] Greetings and felicitations one and all. Welcome thee to this, the next episode of The Final Frontier.

[00:01:28] As always, I am your Captain Jake, and this is my first officer, Justin.

[00:01:35] It's just the way you rolled your R's. I could, I could. Hello everybody. It's good to be here.

[00:01:39] So, fun fact about me, I couldn't roll my R's until I was 19.

[00:01:42] I absolutely cannot. I can't roll my, Jordan can roll his R's. I cannot roll my R's. Just, I just can't do it.

[00:01:47] A lot of, a lot of people think it's the Spanish. Rammstein. It's totally Rammstein.

[00:01:53] Interesting. Fair enough. But also I can, I can, I can kind of yodel because of just imitating Goofy.

[00:01:58] You can yodel? Kind of, not really. Like I can like do the thing. I can't do it on command, but like that thing where you like roll the back of your throat.

[00:02:06] Oh, the yodel.

[00:02:08] Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can kind of do that. Yeah. That's just from watching a Goofy movie a hundred times.

[00:02:14] I bet Goofy is an exceptional yodeler.

[00:02:16] I mean, I'm sure he is. I mean, that's where the laugh comes from. The laugh is, uh, is a, the, the Swedish yodel.

[00:02:22] You know, who else was a great yodeler? William Shatner. Oh, is that where you're going with this? Oh, I thought we were keeping it Star Trek.

[00:02:31] No, but now I'm gonna look and if William Shatner can yodel, get ready.

[00:02:40] Keep it game. Keep it light. Keep it fresh. Keep it fair. Let it blue. Every night. Give it room. Never stay still. Keep your love a lovely dream and never wake it.

[00:02:52] Hey, throw some. Come on, Mike. Keep it gay. Keep it gay. Keep it gay.

[00:03:03] Oh, no. The, uh, the vice principal from the Doug cartoon who was voiced by, was he voiced by Don Knotts?

[00:03:10] It sounds like he was either voiced by Don Knotts or it was a Don Knotts impersonation.

[00:03:15] Oh, Don Knotts. I love Don. We talked about Don Knotts yesterday. I love Don Knotts. His voice is so funny.

[00:03:20] I'm telling you, I kind of wish Don Knotts had appeared on Star Trek at least once. That would have been hilarious.

[00:03:25] At least once. Why are there so many aliens? What's a Trelane?

[00:03:33] No, just bring, just bring Barney Fife from Mayberry onto the Enterprise. That would be hilarious.

[00:03:40] I mean, it's the 1960s. Oh, I didn't know. Is that what going on? I just saw a light and then ears, you know.

[00:03:47] Warp, warp to Mr. Warpspock.

[00:03:50] Uh, we are of course talking about the very fun, the very beloved episode, The Squire of Gothos.

[00:03:56] This episode takes place between Stardates 21-24.5 and 21-26.3.

[00:04:02] And for those of you keeping track, we don't know when the hell this happened because Stardates don't matter yet.

[00:04:07] Stardates don't matter.

[00:04:09] The show, the show date is still 2267 and the original air date of this episode was January 12th, 1967.

[00:04:17] Oh, interesting. Um, so your notes on the, on the Paramount Plus description, uh, which is obviously describing that they fight a, I think they describe it as an alien called the Trelane.

[00:04:27] Uh, he says they victimized him or something to that effect, which my question was immediately, how silly will Trelane be?

[00:04:33] Now, when I asked that question, it wasn't in the way I was expecting.

[00:04:37] I was expecting something in a big dumb costume because it's Star Trek.

[00:04:40] Um, and then what a vague description pair of pink Paramount Plus.

[00:04:44] Oh, uh, is Gothos Trelane's last name or his species?

[00:04:48] The planet.

[00:04:49] The planet, which we have discovered the planet.

[00:04:52] He names the planet Gothos.

[00:04:54] Um, God, this one's fun.

[00:04:56] I knew when I was doing the preview in the previous episode, I was like, oh, we're doing the Squire of Gothos next.

[00:05:03] Justin's gonna love this one.

[00:05:05] I did. I did thoroughly enjoy it.

[00:05:07] Um, just to open up with, uh, is that a new Yaoman bringing Kirk some coffee?

[00:05:12] Sure is.

[00:05:12] Kirk got a type, Jake.

[00:05:14] We're going to, we're going to be addressing that a few times.

[00:05:16] We have established.

[00:05:17] We have established as he, he does.

[00:05:19] He does deviate occasionally, but.

[00:05:21] Did he fire the brunette though?

[00:05:23] Is my question.

[00:05:24] It wasn't cause he was a brunette.

[00:05:27] We established in two episodes.

[00:05:31] They were back to back.

[00:05:32] Yes.

[00:05:33] About her, her inability to do the job.

[00:05:36] Yep.

[00:05:36] Pretty much.

[00:05:36] So maybe he did legit fire her.

[00:05:38] Maybe she got like that.

[00:05:39] I think maybe she did.

[00:05:40] Maybe she did.

[00:05:40] This episode was written by Paul Schneider and directed by Don McDougal.

[00:05:48] That is a delightfully Scottish name.

[00:05:50] Don McDougal.

[00:05:51] Don McDougal.

[00:05:52] Don McDougal.

[00:05:53] I know Scots don't roll their ours like that, but I felt like giving it some flair.

[00:05:58] I mean, I mean, some of them do.

[00:06:01] I feel like Tremaine would, Trelane would.

[00:06:03] I keep calling him Tremaine.

[00:06:04] And that's, because Tremaine is a countertop company that I see their trucks all the time.

[00:06:09] Trelane, Trelane, Trelane.

[00:06:10] Fun fact though.

[00:06:11] Uh, when writing this episode, Paul Schneider was inspired by seeing children play war and

[00:06:17] originally intended this episode to be an anti-war statement.

[00:06:20] When I read that, I was like, Oh God, absolutely.

[00:06:22] I see this.

[00:06:24] Really?

[00:06:25] Yeah.

[00:06:26] No, no, not, not the anti, not the anti-war about him being inspired by watching children

[00:06:32] play.

[00:06:32] Oh, yes, that absolutely.

[00:06:35] Yes.

[00:06:35] Yes.

[00:06:35] Yeah.

[00:06:37] Believe it or not, Trelane's sort of weird and they're not monologues per se, but his

[00:06:42] like, his fixation with warfare insofar as he has zero experience with it reminds me of

[00:06:49] the beginning of All Quiet on the Western Front.

[00:06:51] Yes.

[00:06:51] I could see why you would say that.

[00:06:52] Absolutely.

[00:06:53] Yeah.

[00:06:53] Hardcore.

[00:06:54] Like just the, just the blatant obvious.

[00:06:57] I would say it sort of describes, I would say World War one generally, because it does,

[00:07:02] it displays a certain level of with World War one.

[00:07:05] It was very much how, how, how, how is it always?

[00:07:08] Well, so what, what idealism and, and like gung ho about it.

[00:07:11] What it does really effectively is Trelane kind of does personify that sort of upper

[00:07:16] class view of gallant warfare, which was, I'm not going to say it was true, but it

[00:07:21] was perceived really up until World War one.

[00:07:25] As noble.

[00:07:26] As being noble.

[00:07:27] Well, not just, not just noble as a, as a, as a civilized enterprise.

[00:07:30] Yeah.

[00:07:31] Which is really f***ing weird, but that's probably because we live in the 21st century and we

[00:07:37] know the history of, I mean, people don't realize this, but the first world war was a

[00:07:41] was the first mechanized war in the sense that it was like, it was not only possible,

[00:07:46] it was likely to kill people faster than they could be replenished.

[00:07:51] Yeah.

[00:07:52] Yeah.

[00:07:53] I mean, it was a, it was a literal human meat grinder.

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:57] Absolutely.

[00:07:58] Just the scale was, people don't understand today because we know that I'm not going to

[00:08:02] say we live through it because none of us live through it, but the generations prior to us

[00:08:07] live through it and their stories are recorded.

[00:08:09] So we have accounts of what that was like.

[00:08:14] It just wasn't like that before.

[00:08:16] No, it just, it just wasn't the same way.

[00:08:20] Um, and Trillane, God, I can't say enough good things about this performance in this character.

[00:08:25] Oh, it's so good.

[00:08:26] We're going to say several good things as this goes along.

[00:08:29] Oh man.

[00:08:29] I don't have any, this is one of the episodes where I don't have any complaints.

[00:08:33] Well, I have one small complaint, but I understand why it happened, but like nothing glaring,

[00:08:38] nothing.

[00:08:39] This episode's fun.

[00:08:40] This episode's.

[00:08:42] I am of two.

[00:08:44] We'll get, we'll get to my, I'm of two minds when it comes to this, this kind of character

[00:08:49] in this kind of show, but we're going to get to it as we get through the story.

[00:08:52] Well, our story begins with the enterprise on an eight day supply mission to colony beta six

[00:08:57] passing through a quote star desert.

[00:09:00] The ship encounters a rogue planet previously hidden from their sensors.

[00:09:04] As Lieutenant Sulu attempts to enter a course around the planet.

[00:09:07] He suddenly vanishes from the bridge and Kirk vanishes a moment later.

[00:09:12] What the?

[00:09:13] I mean, that's basically Kirk's reaction, but I love how his first it like his, his first instinct is to go

[00:09:20] exactly to the same spot as the guy who disappeared.

[00:09:24] Right.

[00:09:24] I kind of feel like the guy was going for Kirk first and they just happened to get Sulu in the crossfire.

[00:09:29] Like he wasn't quite, he was like reaching kind of needed to calibrate the old telescope.

[00:09:34] I'm trying to remember.

[00:09:35] Is this the first time that Kirk's disappeared at the very beginning?

[00:09:38] Like the very, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:09:40] Yeah.

[00:09:40] Yeah.

[00:09:40] It's pretty much.

[00:09:41] Yeah.

[00:09:41] He was, he's gone for at least a, not a good portion of this, but a bit of this.

[00:09:45] Yeah.

[00:09:46] But not only that, and it's also cause no, Kirk hasn't been taken captive yet.

[00:09:52] I can't, I don't think so.

[00:09:54] We've always pretty much had a decent idea of where Kirk was.

[00:09:57] And then he's, he's been taken captive, but never like, but we followed.

[00:10:02] We followed him as that's, that's what I was trying to get.

[00:10:04] Cause yeah, he was taken captive in our favorite episode.

[00:10:08] Yeah.

[00:10:08] Androids dream of killing red shirts, but we watched that happen.

[00:10:11] Yes, we did.

[00:10:12] Yeah.

[00:10:12] It's always, we've always seen his perspective.

[00:10:14] This is the first time he's just straight up vanished.

[00:10:17] Yep.

[00:10:17] Kudos to Spock for jumping into that command post and right.

[00:10:20] It out.

[00:10:21] Right.

[00:10:22] I, I, I still enjoy just for God.

[00:10:25] I, I, I, I am a man who loves continuity.

[00:10:28] So I love that.

[00:10:29] Yeah.

[00:10:29] When Spock is in charge, he's doing the captain law captain's logs.

[00:10:32] Like this show could easily be one of those shows where Kirk still does the narration,

[00:10:35] even though he's not there and it becomes, how'd you know about the parts you weren't

[00:10:39] there for?

[00:10:39] Um, but it doesn't.

[00:10:40] And I appreciate that attention to detail about this show.

[00:10:43] And it's a show that, I mean, it's, it's just like you said, like, especially in the

[00:10:47] sixties, I mean, it could, cause they even could have frame it as like Kirk is reporting

[00:10:51] from after the fact.

[00:10:53] Yeah.

[00:10:53] Yeah.

[00:10:54] But yeah, they establish, and it really doesn't go away in all of star Trek where the logs are very,

[00:10:59] much like we're hearing after the fact, but they're recording them as these things are

[00:11:05] happening.

[00:11:05] Yeah.

[00:11:05] Well, I mean, in this one, it was kind of like, wait, so he took them over, wait, wait,

[00:11:10] captain.

[00:11:11] No, like, like that, that it was kind of like a little instantaneous, but still, um, I appreciate

[00:11:17] that.

[00:11:18] Yeah.

[00:11:18] That Kirk's not, not doing that, doing the log from where, from parts unknown.

[00:11:21] Like I, yeah, I appreciate that.

[00:11:23] First officer Spock assumes that the two must've been taken to the planet.

[00:11:27] Those sensor readings indicate the planet's atmosphere is lethal to most forms of life.

[00:11:32] The enterprise then receives a strange message on a view screen and black letter writing, reading,

[00:11:37] readings and felicitations followed by a pepper.

[00:11:42] Uh, and a Spock wanted, this is such a great read from Leonard Nimoy.

[00:11:46] And I believe it's pronounced.

[00:11:48] Tally ho.

[00:11:49] Tally ho.

[00:11:50] Yeah.

[00:11:51] It's funny.

[00:11:52] You said felicitations to start the episode.

[00:11:54] Cause I just, what felicitations I've literally never heard that word in my life.

[00:12:00] It's an old one.

[00:12:01] Um, and then, yeah, it's giving, it's giving trickster vibes.

[00:12:04] Oh my God.

[00:12:05] I, I, the first, the first character that came to mind, I cannot pronounce it.

[00:12:09] I've never been able to pronounce it.

[00:12:11] Mr. Mixel.

[00:12:13] Pick the lick from Superman.

[00:12:15] Is that the trickster?

[00:12:16] Why?

[00:12:17] He's a trickster character.

[00:12:19] Him.

[00:12:19] Loki.

[00:12:21] The trickster is technically from the flash.

[00:12:23] That's right.

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:24] Oh yeah.

[00:12:24] Trickster.

[00:12:25] Yeah.

[00:12:25] Trickster is the flash.

[00:12:26] I just meant trickster in terms of an archetype of character.

[00:12:29] Yeah.

[00:12:29] I, for some reason I was getting, I was thinking trickster was, which I mean, the tricksters

[00:12:34] interacted with Superman and various iterations, but technically he's a flash villain.

[00:12:38] Yeah.

[00:12:38] Or in a, if you watch supernatural Gabriel, uh, if you watch Dr. Who, I put down the toy maker,

[00:12:44] that kind of character.

[00:12:45] It read that immediately.

[00:12:46] I was like, Oh, it's a trickster character.

[00:12:47] Okay.

[00:12:48] Okay.

[00:12:48] Spock orders Dr. McCoy, along with Lieutenant DeSalle and geophysicist Carl Jaeger to form

[00:12:55] a landing party and conduct a search.

[00:12:58] Uh, my first thought was like, they're making it seem like these two characters, DeSalle and

[00:13:03] Jaeger are like important people.

[00:13:05] And I'm like, I've never seen these dudes before.

[00:13:07] Oh, I know.

[00:13:08] Ever.

[00:13:08] Yeah.

[00:13:09] This is another one of those though.

[00:13:11] I just, I didn't fully understand why bones is going down to this planet again.

[00:13:15] Presumably they might need a doctor.

[00:13:17] This one kind of makes it.

[00:13:17] I love how in this episode Spock's like, no, Mr. Scott, you can't be spared.

[00:13:22] Nor can I.

[00:13:23] Oh yeah.

[00:13:24] Okay.

[00:13:24] But it's like you had zero issue in the Galileo seven.

[00:13:27] Although to be fair, Captain Kirk wasn't missing.

[00:13:31] Right.

[00:13:31] Right.

[00:13:32] Yeah.

[00:13:32] True.

[00:13:32] But they're not like a secondary doctor who could go down to do doctor stuff where you're not

[00:13:37] losing your, in the event of something going wrong, you're not losing your lead doctor.

[00:13:40] So I, this is where I'm like, I could be in the wrong here.

[00:13:44] In this, because I like this episode and in the spirit of defending it, I would say that

[00:13:49] when you're dealing with novelty of an alien world, you probably want your chief physician

[00:13:54] down there.

[00:13:55] Fair enough.

[00:13:55] Because that five seconds could be the difference between the captain living or dying.

[00:14:00] True.

[00:14:01] True.

[00:14:01] Yeah.

[00:14:01] That's fair enough.

[00:14:02] And God knows if we lose Sulu, this show has no soul.

[00:14:05] So we can't.

[00:14:06] And no sex appeal.

[00:14:08] No, no.

[00:14:08] I mean, I know we lost you, but we still have to force Kelly.

[00:14:11] That's valid.

[00:14:12] We still have, we still have smolder and we got spot too.

[00:14:15] And apparently the ladies were into that.

[00:14:18] Yeah.

[00:14:18] I mean, Hey, there's a lot of Shatner love this episode.

[00:14:21] I'm going to, I'm going to, there is a lot of Shatner love.

[00:14:22] There is.

[00:14:23] It's just such a good, fun episode.

[00:14:25] This one, this one's up there for me.

[00:14:27] I don't know that it's my favorite, but.

[00:14:29] I, okay.

[00:14:31] I, okay.

[00:14:31] Okay.

[00:14:31] Well, we're good.

[00:14:32] We have to introduce the character first.

[00:14:33] Cause I do on concept have an issue with this archetype of character, but fair enough.

[00:15:06] Yeah.

[00:15:08] The trickster is engaged in world conquest.

[00:15:10] McCoy's medical tricorder cannot detect this person as a living being.

[00:15:15] Uh, my, okay.

[00:15:16] My thing with the trickster is yeah, it's definitely a trickster.

[00:15:19] Um, also for, for, for, for, um, I don't know how to pronounce this word.

[00:15:22] Now I wrote it down.

[00:15:23] I didn't write how to pronounce it.

[00:15:25] Pro picious.

[00:15:26] It's another word.

[00:15:27] I've never heard, heard of, um, I think, my thing with the trickster and I had a similar opinion of, of when the toy maker showed up in doctor who it's a little too magical for me.

[00:15:36] Uh, it's a little too other worldly for me where I'm like, ah, I just, I just, I don't know.

[00:15:41] It feels like too much reality bendy for me for I, but also by that same token, it's hard not to love a trickster, especially when they're fun.

[00:15:51] Um, so on concept, I'm like, Ooh, I don't, I don't like necessarily think it belongs in a star in a science fiction type show like this, but I did enjoy it.

[00:16:00] So that's, I don't want it to come across.

[00:16:02] Like I'm being negative about it.

[00:16:03] See, that's really interesting because as someone who's a huge Trekkie, this is very common.

[00:16:11] Interesting.

[00:16:12] Throughout the series, but this, the series, plural series, not just this series, um, because the, I have a note about Q later, but, um, it's funny.

[00:16:22] You say that because as someone who's new or like, you know, Star Trek, but you've not watched it in its entirety.

[00:16:28] Yeah.

[00:16:28] So for you to say something like that is really interesting.

[00:16:30] But looking at in a vacuum, just the episode we watched.

[00:16:33] Yeah.

[00:16:33] This does feel really, really magical compared to.

[00:16:37] Yeah.

[00:16:38] It's a character who has been reality to his.

[00:16:40] Yeah.

[00:16:40] Because the shore leave episode, uh, is all explained.

[00:16:45] Like it seems like magic, but it's, it's not, you know?

[00:16:48] And the whole, basically the episode is them figuring out how this is happening.

[00:16:52] They figure out how this is happening really quick.

[00:16:55] Somehow Trillane is.

[00:16:56] I mean, if the trillion even says he can manipulate matter.

[00:17:00] Exactly.

[00:17:00] Right.

[00:17:01] Like the closest equivalent I could think of again, you don't watch doctor who, but yeah, it really is like the toy make this newest season of doctor who introduced characters like this.

[00:17:09] And it's like, for me, for me, it's just, uh, everyone's got a line in terms of the suspension of disbelief and it doesn't completely push over it, but it does start to touch it.

[00:17:18] I like the fact though, that he adds the line that he explains at least on a basic level, what he's doing.

[00:17:24] It's not magic.

[00:17:25] He just has the ability to manipulate matter in, in, in, in the way.

[00:17:31] Yeah.

[00:17:31] I think it's the performance because I've seen, I mean, I've got a note about this character where I'm like, if it feels like a character that you bring back in modern Star Trek as like a deep cut reference that only like classic Star Trek fans get and your friends are like, who is this character?

[00:17:45] And you have them played by a celebrity.

[00:17:47] Wait, that was a reference to Dr.

[00:17:49] Who.

[00:17:50] I mean, in reference to Neil Patrick Harrison, the doctor.

[00:17:53] In a way.

[00:17:53] So, uh, a bit of a fun fact.

[00:17:56] Uh, speaking of the, you notice the landing party is just wearing those masks, right?

[00:18:01] Yeah.

[00:18:01] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:18:02] Yeah.

[00:18:02] Believe it or not.

[00:18:03] There's a reason.

[00:18:04] Oh, interesting.

[00:18:05] It was a very deliberate wardrobe choice because in a 1966 memo from Robert H. Justman to Gene Kuhn.

[00:18:14] He stated that quote, if we transport McCoy, Jaeger and DeSalle down to the surface of Gothos in the orange space suits that we used in the naked time, then the audience will take a full half hour to stop laughing from what our people look like.

[00:18:28] Uh, hey, did we laugh at those?

[00:18:32] I feel like we laughed at those.

[00:18:33] We did.

[00:18:33] Well, yeah, we, we absolutely have to do because it goes back to the whole thing.

[00:18:37] It's like, it's supposed to be a bio suit, but he has the ability to reach in and scratch his nose.

[00:18:44] Right.

[00:18:45] This negating any protection whatsoever.

[00:18:48] Right.

[00:18:49] Uh, to me, I, I didn't, I didn't question what they were wearing.

[00:18:52] Like they felt.

[00:18:53] I didn't either.

[00:18:54] That makes sense.

[00:18:55] They got, they got to be able to breathe.

[00:18:57] Right.

[00:18:57] Um, did you see, did you see the salt creature from the man trap on the wall?

[00:19:01] No, I totally missed that.

[00:19:03] That's fine.

[00:19:04] So I, I recognize that, but then there's this other little thing that just, it honestly looks like a shrunken head with googly eyes.

[00:19:10] And my notice, what is the googly eye thing on the wall?

[00:19:14] I guess it's his, it's his, uh, interpretation of now we're going to talk about his interpretation of African culture later.

[00:19:21] Ooh.

[00:19:23] Yeah.

[00:19:23] There's a, there's an uncomfortable moment coming up, but this is a nice little Easter egg for those of you, especially if you're, um, speaking of the, the creature from the man trap when Dr. McCoy sees it, he does a double take.

[00:19:37] That's funny.

[00:19:38] So maybe it is the same creature.

[00:19:40] Oh no.

[00:19:40] Oh, I like, so, so here's my, in my head, they didn't tell DeForest Kelly about it and he did a double take or he made the decision that bones would recognize it and not ignore it.

[00:19:54] Um, and do I like to think it's, I like to think it's the second thing because DeForest Kelly just is that devoted to his.

[00:19:59] I was going to say, I think it honestly might've been the second thing.

[00:20:02] I do character choice.

[00:20:03] They do mention though, that it's very possible that Trelane observed that planet with his telescope at some point, which would make sense as to why he makes the phantom planet.

[00:20:13] Cause he may have just seen the enterprise and been like, Oh, jolly good.

[00:20:17] They're from earth.

[00:20:18] Right.

[00:20:20] Probably considering what we find out about him later.

[00:20:22] That would, that would, that would make sense.

[00:20:24] That would make sense.

[00:20:25] So, uh, Spock, while all this is going on, manages to locate the landing party and beams everyone except Trelane back to the ship by locking onto every detectable life form in the area.

[00:20:35] Spock being really, really, well, I guess Kirk was really dicey with, uh, risk taking with the transporter in the last episode, but Spock's doing the same thing.

[00:20:43] It's like, is it alive?

[00:20:44] I'll beam beam it up.

[00:20:45] We'll figure it out later.

[00:20:46] We'll sort through the mess later.

[00:20:48] Yeah.

[00:20:48] Trelane, however, appears on the enterprise bridge and brings the entire bridge crew down to the planet, including Spock, Lieutenant Uhura and Yeoman, Teresa Ross.

[00:20:58] Trelane invites his guests to partake of his food, which tastes like straw and his brandy, which tastes like water.

[00:21:04] Spock reasons that Trelane knows only the forms of earth history and not the substance.

[00:21:09] The equivalent of someone 900 light years away from earth who was studying earth history through a telescope.

[00:21:17] Um, I've got to mention the way Spock, for whatever reason, the way he was pronouncing sensor was bothering me.

[00:21:23] I don't know what sensor.

[00:21:25] And it was just like, I don't know why that bothers me.

[00:21:27] That's probably a me thing.

[00:21:29] Uh, no, I get it.

[00:21:31] So there's, um, I can't remember who it was, but it was an Australian gentleman.

[00:21:35] And, and he, the way he was pronouncing assume.

[00:21:40] Oh, he said, he said, and he says, assume like eight times.

[00:21:44] He's like, you assume.

[00:21:46] And I'm like, Oh God, stop it.

[00:21:48] That's right.

[00:21:49] That's right.

[00:21:50] They were nor.

[00:21:51] The thing I I've discovered.

[00:21:53] I can't stand it.

[00:21:53] There's just certain British YouTubers who like, I don't know how to describe it, but they're like video essays and they do this like down almost like downward inflection.

[00:22:03] Like, I don't know if you remember that bit from family government.

[00:22:05] They talk about Jillian and now she always talks out like it's a question.

[00:22:08] Um, these guys, they talk like it's downward.

[00:22:11] Like everything that ends with a sentence ends like this, like, like we're watching Star Trek and I just can't, I can, this guy film brain.

[00:22:19] I could not stand his car.

[00:22:21] Cause just the way he talked and like, it feels mean to say, but I just couldn't do it.

[00:22:25] Well, I feel the same way about the upward inflection that a lot of Americans do.

[00:22:29] Although I will say it's becoming less common.

[00:22:31] Yeah, it really is.

[00:22:32] It was really, really a thing in like between like 2016 and 2018 for some reason.

[00:22:37] Don't get me wrong.

[00:22:38] People still do it, but it feels maybe I'm just getting used to it too.

[00:22:42] That could be another thing that's happening.

[00:22:43] To be fair, I started noticing it when family guy pointed it out where everyone talks about that upward inflection.

[00:22:49] And I ever since then I couldn't unnotice it.

[00:22:51] It's like I'm making a statement, but it sounds like a question, but it sounds like a question.

[00:22:56] Uh, even though it's not, even though it's not actually, I want to say, I remember that gag where they were making fun of the upward inflection.

[00:23:05] And Brian's like, was that a question?

[00:23:06] I get like, I can't tell.

[00:23:08] It sounds like it sounds like a statement, but yeah.

[00:23:11] Yeah.

[00:23:12] It was a Jillian.

[00:23:12] Do you very more?

[00:23:13] It sounds like a question.

[00:23:15] Oh God, I'm doing it now.

[00:23:16] I love Jillian.

[00:23:17] I love Jillian.

[00:23:19] She's a fun character.

[00:23:20] He is very fun.

[00:23:21] So we come now to the only thing that annoyed me about this episode.

[00:23:26] But as I was doing research, they explained probably why this happened.

[00:23:29] So I let it go.

[00:23:30] But I feel good about the fact that I instantly recognize this as a history buff, an amateur history buff, because I make fun of history YouTubers here in a moment, bad ones.

[00:23:40] But so as an amateur history buff, I love it.

[00:23:43] So this episode is really, really bad at math.

[00:23:45] If the year is 2266 and Shrelane is looking back 900 years, that means he's looking at approximately the year 1367.

[00:23:53] But he's clearly wearing 18th century clothing and has a bust of Napoleon.

[00:23:59] Napoleon would not even be born until 1769.

[00:24:04] So, so wait, wait, 900 years is too far?

[00:24:07] Way too far.

[00:24:08] Oh, interesting.

[00:24:09] Interesting.

[00:24:09] Okay.

[00:24:10] 900 years would be in the 14th century and he's clearly enamored with the 18th.

[00:24:15] He's clearly at least at.

[00:24:17] Well, if he's aware.

[00:24:19] No, he would have to be in the 19th century if he's aware of Napoleon's conquests.

[00:24:24] True.

[00:24:25] Yeah.

[00:24:25] He seemed to be very enamored with most whatever Mozart's culture was like that.

[00:24:31] Yeah.

[00:24:32] So that's, that's 19th century.

[00:24:34] I do believe.

[00:24:34] Yeah.

[00:24:35] Yeah.

[00:24:35] That's 19th century.

[00:24:36] Okay.

[00:24:39] I should know this.

[00:24:40] I've seen Amadeus.

[00:24:41] He even has Mozart's doofy laugh that I will never forget when I Googled did Mozart have

[00:24:50] a doofy laugh and it was the first thing to pop up on Reddit.

[00:24:54] Of course.

[00:24:54] People need to know.

[00:24:55] Of course it was.

[00:24:56] Now, of course, I did find some research saying that at this point in the show, the

[00:25:01] exact century in which the events were taking place had not yet been determined.

[00:25:13] Fair.

[00:25:15] The forest research incorporated the company who reviewed scripts and clearances and other

[00:25:20] related matters noted in their commentary on the line that you've been looking back and

[00:25:25] doing, I'm sorry.

[00:25:27] Then you've been looking in on doing 900 years past.

[00:25:32] Um, other scripts, however, have referenced the events in Star Trek being placed 200 years

[00:25:38] in the future.

[00:25:39] And other episodes have referenced the 13th century as being, you know, that, that math

[00:25:43] doesn't work either.

[00:25:44] I'm not sure what they mean by that.

[00:25:46] But yeah, so basically it's, it's an understandable mistake simply because they didn't exactly like

[00:25:52] this show takes place in the 23rd century, but they may have been assuming it was later.

[00:25:58] So no, no, there wasn't a person sitting down with a calculator doing the math.

[00:26:02] I did it.

[00:26:03] They just picked a number that sounded like a long time ago.

[00:26:05] It's probably not, not, not, not at this point in the series.

[00:26:08] Yeah.

[00:26:09] And I, the other note I had is train Trulane is like a bad history YouTuber.

[00:26:13] I, I see.

[00:26:15] Okay.

[00:26:15] Who, who would you qualify as a bad history YouTuber?

[00:26:18] See, that's really into history YouTube lately.

[00:26:20] And I'm interested to see if the name matches up.

[00:26:23] See, that's the thing because I don't watch bad history YouTubers.

[00:26:26] I watch good history YouTubers, uh, including shout out, shout out to my buddy, Mr.

[00:26:31] Mark teaches history.

[00:26:32] He's got a little channel, but I really enjoy his lectures.

[00:26:34] I really wish he would do longer lectures, but I understand why he doesn't because internet

[00:26:38] does the name, does the name Simon Whistler mean anything to you?

[00:26:41] Yes.

[00:26:42] I actually like Simon Whistler.

[00:26:43] Okay, good.

[00:26:44] I, I love Simon Whistler.

[00:26:46] Um, I, I pretty, all of my history, I've been learning from him.

[00:26:49] I've gotten really into him lately.

[00:26:50] I'm about to ruin him for you though.

[00:26:53] Oh no.

[00:26:54] I quite enjoy decoding on decoding the unknown.

[00:26:57] I quite enjoy that.

[00:26:58] Um, he does the British downward inflection thing at the end of the sentences.

[00:27:02] He doesn't bother me so bad.

[00:27:05] Like, I don't know why.

[00:27:06] I think with him is he can be really condescending.

[00:27:08] Um, extremely, um, extremely condescending.

[00:27:13] Yeah.

[00:27:13] The other is just, just shout out to a few other histories.

[00:27:16] Um, I like the cynical historian a lot.

[00:27:19] I find him entertaining.

[00:27:20] Interesting.

[00:27:21] Um, and then history buffs on YouTube.

[00:27:23] I love history buffs.

[00:27:24] Nick Hodges is hilarious and just good.

[00:27:28] Like I enjoy his content.

[00:27:30] Yeah.

[00:27:31] I've been watching a lot.

[00:27:31] Like today I found out, uh, uh, or is it decoding?

[00:27:34] I loved it.

[00:27:35] Decoding the unknown.

[00:27:36] There's a complete aside, but it's the 1960s.

[00:27:38] So it kind of counts.

[00:27:39] He totally blew my mind on, on the Kennedy, uh, Kennedy assassination where he did, he did

[00:27:45] a video where he worked and made me go, look, there might've been another guy there.

[00:27:49] And the, and they like a lot of times it was like a lot of this stuff, a lot of coverups

[00:27:52] are conspiracies.

[00:27:54] It's because it's because like the CIA just kind of comes across as looking incompetent

[00:27:58] in this story and they didn't want to look bad.

[00:28:00] So they covered it up to make themselves look good.

[00:28:02] And like, it's stuff like that.

[00:28:03] I'm like, huh, changed my whole perspective.

[00:28:06] Very possible.

[00:28:07] But speaking of bad, cause like I said, I know that there was one, I trying to think, I

[00:28:13] didn't watch the podcast of the guy, but I watched another podcast of the guy.

[00:28:19] A real historian talking about the guy and how his research was.

[00:28:23] Um, I cannot remember his name for the life of me, which is like I say, it's really, really

[00:28:27] hard for me to pick bad history YouTube because I don't watch it, but I'm aware of it.

[00:28:33] How do you feel about infographics?

[00:28:35] I like infographics.

[00:28:36] Oh, interesting.

[00:28:36] Okay.

[00:28:37] Some of their stuff's a little simple, but I understand there's, and actually that,

[00:28:41] Oh God, I can't believe I forgot oversimplified.

[00:28:43] God, I love oversimplified.

[00:28:45] Interesting.

[00:28:45] Yeah.

[00:28:45] I've gotten re it's just lately.

[00:28:47] Lately, I've gotten so into watching like history YouTube for whatever reason.

[00:28:52] It's interesting.

[00:28:53] And then I also like Mr. Terry, uh, his is a reaction channel with Mr. Terry.

[00:28:57] I can't remember.

[00:28:58] Is it Mr. Terry teaches history or Mr. Terry reacts to history, something like that.

[00:29:02] But he's a history teacher who reacts to history YouTube.

[00:29:05] And I, I like his, um, I like his ability to add, you know, yeah, it's here and there.

[00:29:12] It's very interesting stuff.

[00:29:13] Yeah.

[00:29:14] It's very much like anytime you go to be like, man, today sucks.

[00:29:16] You go watch a history video and you're like, we suck so much worse.

[00:29:21] I'm like learning about the Romans.

[00:29:23] I watched a video about the Romans and just how truly unhinged they were.

[00:29:27] Like they seemed like they weren't very, very great people by today's standards.

[00:29:31] One of my favorite videos.

[00:29:33] And I wish I could remember the channel.

[00:29:34] Unfortunately I can't.

[00:29:38] It's a channel that most people would find boring, but I love it because it goes super in depth.

[00:29:43] They have an episode.

[00:29:45] Um, I believe the title it's something to the effect of the longest year ever.

[00:29:49] And it tells the story about how there is actually one year on earth.

[00:29:53] That was the longest ever recorded because it was the year that Julius Caesar fixed the calendar.

[00:29:58] Oh, interesting.

[00:30:00] The weirdest one I saw, I saw was they did a video about the, uh, Avril Lavigne.

[00:30:06] Is she a clone conspiracy?

[00:30:08] And I was just like, this feels like a, it's a waste of time.

[00:30:12] No, she's not.

[00:30:13] End of video.

[00:30:14] Two minutes long.

[00:30:15] Wow.

[00:30:15] That was a short video.

[00:30:16] Cause I watched some of the arm hair, arm hair.

[00:30:19] The armchair historian is also really good.

[00:30:21] Oh, him.

[00:30:22] I do know.

[00:30:22] Yeah.

[00:30:22] I enjoy, I enjoy his, uh, illustrations are top notch.

[00:30:27] Like they're, I shouldn't say illustrate animations.

[00:30:29] Animations are top notch.

[00:30:31] There's one, one channel I discovered recently that I quite like, I wish I could remember what it was called, but it was, it's going through like movies based on a true story.

[00:30:39] And it tells you like exactly how accurate they are.

[00:30:42] And I was like, Oh, this is super interesting.

[00:30:43] That's my favorite thing to do.

[00:30:45] That might be history buffs.

[00:30:46] That sounds like what he does.

[00:30:48] Oh, maybe, maybe that's it.

[00:30:49] Cause I quite, I quite enjoy that.

[00:30:51] Like I, it was, it's insanely helpful for doing stuff like this.

[00:30:54] I love it.

[00:30:55] Yeah.

[00:30:56] So I like, I like Nick Hodges delivery.

[00:30:58] He's the gentleman from history buffs, but I love it when movies are so stupid that it makes him mad.

[00:31:04] I think my, one of my favorite ones is Braveheart.

[00:31:06] And he's like, um, I'm sorry.

[00:31:08] You couldn't even get the sodding date.

[00:31:10] Right.

[00:31:12] I think, I think, cause I, I think I watched his video on the founder.

[00:31:17] Yeah.

[00:31:17] Which is interesting.

[00:31:19] Yeah.

[00:31:19] I, it's funny.

[00:31:20] I watched that one just the other day.

[00:31:21] Yeah.

[00:31:22] Cause I got really into, uh, I got, well, obviously for obvious reasons, I, I, McDonald's doesn't love that movie.

[00:31:29] I'll put it to you that way.

[00:31:30] Like, well, it also, to be fair again, to be fair, the movie is not, I'm not going to say it's inaccurate, but it does, it does paint Ray Kroc in a little bit less than flattering light than he really deserves.

[00:31:47] Because like, don't get me wrong.

[00:31:48] He did screw the McDonald's.

[00:31:51] It's my understanding that he screwed the McDonald's brothers out of their royalties, but it wasn't quite as cutthroat as they make it seem in the movie.

[00:31:59] Yeah.

[00:32:00] As a movie, it's a great twist.

[00:32:02] Ray Kroc was a real son of a bitch though.

[00:32:04] Like, but yeah, but he'd be the first, I think he says so much in his book, which I really want to read.

[00:32:10] That being said.

[00:32:11] I love that movie because, cause you get to the end of it.

[00:32:12] You're like, Oh, he's the bad guy.

[00:32:13] Sorry.

[00:32:14] Oh yeah.

[00:32:15] I knew he was the bad guy from the beginning.

[00:32:17] It's kind of like, you can't watch Wolf of Wall Street and think like this man is a hero.

[00:32:20] Yeah.

[00:32:21] True.

[00:32:21] Some people do.

[00:32:22] It's very strange.

[00:32:24] And if you do, you're not watching the movie.

[00:32:25] Right.

[00:32:26] I have this discussion.

[00:32:28] I have discussion.

[00:32:29] I have this discussion about fight club all the time.

[00:32:31] They're like, yeah, man, Tyler Dern.

[00:32:32] I'm like, no, you're not.

[00:32:34] No, you're not watching the movie.

[00:32:36] Right.

[00:32:37] Yeah.

[00:32:38] I, there's a meme I saw where it was like the starter pack of guys who don't understand movies.

[00:32:42] And it was like fight club Wolf of Wall Street.

[00:32:44] And there was one more.

[00:32:45] I don't remember what it is.

[00:32:47] Probably Boondock Saints or.

[00:32:48] Oh yeah.

[00:32:49] That's what the hell yeah.

[00:32:50] That was it was Boondock Saints.

[00:32:51] Yep.

[00:32:51] That's the one.

[00:32:53] Okay.

[00:32:53] Enough of gushing about history YouTube, but Deb, I mean, it's great.

[00:32:57] It's good stuff.

[00:32:58] Yeah.

[00:32:58] I love, I love these and they tend to be bad YouTuber, bad history YouTubers.

[00:33:01] And I swear the last thing I'll say, and we'll get back to Trillane and happy times, but these

[00:33:07] bad history YouTubers are generally the ones who say stupid things like, well, what they

[00:33:12] should have done was dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.

[00:33:13] It's like.

[00:33:14] You can't say that.

[00:33:15] Yeah.

[00:33:15] You weren't there.

[00:33:16] You weren't there.

[00:33:17] Yeah.

[00:33:18] It's just like, I won't cast any moral judgments on a people who don't know better.

[00:33:24] Like, like the moment coming up.

[00:33:26] Yeah.

[00:33:26] Except, except they, they know, they know we've been, we've been, we've been avoiding this

[00:33:30] moment.

[00:33:31] Well, we haven't gotten there yet.

[00:33:33] I gave him the benefit of the doubt is all I'm going to say going into it.

[00:33:37] And then we will tear him apart.

[00:33:38] We are going to roast the shit out of him.

[00:33:40] Don't you worry.

[00:33:41] Well, apparently Nichelle Nichols did too.

[00:33:44] So Trillane dances with Yeoman Ross and changes her standard red uniform into a 19th century

[00:33:49] ball gown upon.

[00:33:51] So to just to know upon meeting Yeoman Ross, Trillane slightly misquotes Christopher Marlowe's

[00:33:55] 16th century play, Dr. Faustus.

[00:33:58] And I only include this note because I am a massive, massive nerd for the Faustian story.

[00:34:05] And this is one of my most prized possessions.

[00:34:08] This is a book of, this is not the play.

[00:34:10] This is the.

[00:34:11] Sorry.

[00:34:11] Sorry.

[00:34:12] Just real quick.

[00:34:13] Before you tell me Faustian, that's the, you make a deal with the devil story, right?

[00:34:18] At its most basic form.

[00:34:20] Yes.

[00:34:20] Yeah.

[00:34:21] The Faustian bargain.

[00:34:22] That's where it comes from.

[00:34:23] Yep.

[00:34:23] But this episode doesn't contain a Faustian bargain.

[00:34:26] No, no, no.

[00:34:26] I'm only including this because I'm a fan of the.

[00:34:28] Gotcha.

[00:34:29] Gotcha.

[00:34:29] Gotcha.

[00:34:30] Gotcha.

[00:34:30] One of my most prized possessions.

[00:34:32] So this is the original poem by Goethe.

[00:34:35] Oh.

[00:34:35] And it has the English.

[00:34:39] You can't see because of the light.

[00:34:40] You can't really see it.

[00:34:41] It's blurry, but one side is English.

[00:34:43] One side is the original German.

[00:34:45] I will confess.

[00:34:45] The only reason why I know who found beyond the narrative cliche.

[00:34:50] I only reason why I know who Johan Faust is is because a shaman king.

[00:34:53] Me.

[00:34:54] That's how I got my first introduction to it.

[00:34:55] Oh, okay.

[00:34:57] See, see, Jake.

[00:34:58] This is why we're friends.

[00:34:59] I, that.

[00:35:00] So anytime any, I use that as a great example.

[00:35:03] Anytime.

[00:35:04] Actually, I use this in gargoyles as my example.

[00:35:06] Anytime somebody says the TV rots your brain.

[00:35:08] I'm like, actually, fun fact.

[00:35:11] No, if you're smart about what you watch and you actually curate, it'll make your children

[00:35:15] very curious.

[00:35:16] I got my first exposure to Shakespeare from gargoyles and I would have never known about

[00:35:21] Faust and I've read the poem now.

[00:35:23] Um, and oh my God, I'm waiting for someone to make a decent, like a good film adaptation,

[00:35:28] like a Hollywood film adaptation.

[00:35:31] Please, please.

[00:35:33] I mean, the story's already written.

[00:35:35] Yeah.

[00:35:36] I mean, yeah.

[00:35:36] Do a nice Michael, Michael Fassbender.

[00:35:39] What's a, what's a, what's a, what's a, what's a Cole's Cole's notes version of the

[00:35:43] actual story?

[00:35:43] The devil shows up and offers them a deal for something.

[00:35:45] Is that the very basic version of this?

[00:35:47] Well, it depends.

[00:35:48] It's familiar with the actual story.

[00:35:49] I just, there are different versions, but I guess the most.

[00:35:52] The most widely held version is, um, Dr.

[00:35:55] Faust is actually an alchemist, but he, he, he craves to know all of world, the world's,

[00:36:00] you know, earthly knowledge.

[00:36:02] Yeah.

[00:36:02] And Mephistopheles who is effectively the devil, um, shows up and makes him a deal.

[00:36:07] He will, you know, show him all the, in some versions it's all worldly pleasure, but in

[00:36:13] the original it's all worldly knowledge because Faust is a learned man.

[00:36:16] And I identify with this because I'm not sure that I'd be able to resist that deal if it were

[00:36:22] legitimately offered to me.

[00:36:23] And this is like you, I give you the knowledge.

[00:36:25] You give me my soul.

[00:36:26] You give me the soul kind of deal.

[00:36:28] I mean, basically because, okay.

[00:36:30] Faust wants to know everything there is to know.

[00:36:32] Right.

[00:36:33] Um, that's the, I refer to it as a, that's not actually a Faustian tragedy is actually, you

[00:36:39] know, somebody making a bad deal and losing out in the end.

[00:36:42] But I call the Faustian tragedy, the fact that we have a finite existence and there's an

[00:36:45] infinite amount of knowledge to learn.

[00:36:47] Yeah.

[00:36:48] Yeah.

[00:36:49] Interesting.

[00:36:50] But so Faust also falls in love in most versions and, um, the ending changes depending upon what

[00:36:57] year you read the poem originally, originally Faust is dragged down to hell.

[00:37:02] Um, in subsequent versions, he ends up being saved by the grace of God.

[00:37:06] Cause you know, cause you know, it happens.

[00:37:08] Yeah.

[00:37:09] And you totally can make that into a Hollywood movie.

[00:37:11] It's got all you absolutely could like, I mean, and the funny thing is so many people

[00:37:15] would recognize the story, but they wouldn't understand why they recognize it.

[00:37:18] No.

[00:37:18] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:37:19] I know it based upon reputation, not having actually read it.

[00:37:23] Yeah.

[00:37:23] Most people know the concept of a Faustian bargain, but yeah.

[00:37:27] So I got my first exposure to Faust two with Faust the eighth in, um, which, oh my God,

[00:37:33] it's so good.

[00:37:35] I swear if Shaman King's art style was different, it would have been much more popular.

[00:37:39] It's a really good show.

[00:37:40] And I actually highly recommend the Japanese dub.

[00:37:42] It's, it's very well done.

[00:37:44] It's better than it has any right to be.

[00:37:46] You just got to get over the, the art style will be off putting to some.

[00:37:49] Um, it was to me initially, although I've seen way worse.

[00:37:53] One piece comes to mind.

[00:37:54] Really?

[00:37:54] I love, I quite like, yeah.

[00:37:56] It's, it's, it eventually, I quite like the art style.

[00:37:59] It eventually becomes charming.

[00:38:01] It's, it's just a little atypical is all I'm getting at.

[00:38:04] Fair, fair.

[00:38:05] But, um, yeah, Faust the eighth and God, his reveal is so good.

[00:38:10] He's so good.

[00:38:11] I mean, I, I, yeah, I, I, I love Shaman King.

[00:38:14] I say I'm, I love the four kids version, but the new Netflix version is quite good.

[00:38:19] Wait, hang on.

[00:38:20] They redid it.

[00:38:21] Yeah.

[00:38:21] There's a reboot on Netflix.

[00:38:23] It's much shorter.

[00:38:24] It cuts out.

[00:38:24] It's, it's essentially like Dragon Ball Kai of, uh, but it's really funny.

[00:38:29] It's really funny because it has a, it brings in all of the most of the voice cast from

[00:38:34] the four kids version, but it's, it's adult.

[00:38:37] So you, it's like, it's, it's more closer to the Japanese version.

[00:38:39] So it's ultra violent.

[00:38:40] There's cursing in it, but it's still 40.

[00:38:43] I think no.

[00:38:44] I think, yeah, they still call them.

[00:38:46] I, I, if I'm, if I recall, it's still more, but it's, it's the voice actor from the four

[00:38:49] kids version, except for, except for yo, yo is a new voice actor.

[00:38:53] So like, well, does he, does he, does he, yeah, I was going to say, does yo not sound 35

[00:38:58] now?

[00:39:00] No, no, he sounds different, but yeah.

[00:39:01] Trey, the guy who plays Trey racers, the same, same voice actor, but they've got all the Japanese

[00:39:05] names.

[00:39:06] It's very strange.

[00:39:07] It's a very strange watch.

[00:39:08] If you watch the four kids version, like, so there's also the, the other thing about

[00:39:11] Shaman Kings, there's a lot of jokes that are extremely Japanese in that show that if

[00:39:16] you watch the England, they just wouldn't translate.

[00:39:18] No, no, no, no.

[00:39:19] But that being said, um, Star Trek, speaking of cultural, uh, Trelane actually misquotes a

[00:39:25] line from the play.

[00:39:27] Um, he says to Yeoman Ross, is this the face that launched a thousand ships and burnt the topless

[00:39:33] towers of Elium?

[00:39:34] And I'm saying, fair Helen, make me immortal with a kiss.

[00:39:38] Oh, okay.

[00:39:39] So that's a, okay.

[00:39:40] I thought that was a, uh, I mean, Helen of Troy.

[00:39:43] I thought that I did.

[00:39:44] I did too.

[00:39:45] I thought it was a Helen of Troy because I've not actually read the Faust play.

[00:39:49] I've only read the original poem.

[00:39:50] So I didn't recognize this as a line from Faust.

[00:39:53] I thought this was like a reference to the Iliad and Helen of Troy.

[00:39:57] Yeah, exactly.

[00:39:58] Yeah.

[00:39:58] That's what I thought.

[00:39:58] Which either way it works, but yeah.

[00:40:01] So then we get to, did Trelane just make a slavery reference?

[00:40:06] That why?

[00:40:06] Okay.

[00:40:07] Okay.

[00:40:07] Okay.

[00:40:07] Okay.

[00:40:08] So this is my note.

[00:40:09] It's twofold.

[00:40:09] Quote, a Nubian prize feels racist.

[00:40:12] And then he, the next line he says about how he clearly captured her.

[00:40:16] Yep.

[00:40:17] It's definitely racist.

[00:40:18] See, I went the same thing.

[00:40:20] He said a Nubian prize.

[00:40:21] I was like, that seems racist.

[00:40:22] And then he said, capture.

[00:40:23] I'm like, yep, it's racist.

[00:40:25] Yep.

[00:40:25] It's definitely racist.

[00:40:26] Yep.

[00:40:26] It gets worse.

[00:40:28] So.

[00:40:28] Not so evolved, is he?

[00:40:30] No.

[00:40:30] So, so the line, well, believe it or not, it actually serves the story.

[00:40:34] So I, it's okay because it serves the story.

[00:40:37] Here's before you tell me this, the history of this, of this line, it's the 1960s.

[00:40:43] Could they got, have gotten away with him saying the N word?

[00:40:47] No, not on television.

[00:40:48] No, not on television.

[00:40:49] Interesting.

[00:40:50] Cause, cause is it?

[00:40:52] At least I don't think so.

[00:40:53] If I, if, so this is where I defer to the experts once again, if I am wrong, please

[00:40:59] tell me in the comments.

[00:41:00] Cause I'm making this assumption based on the rules of today.

[00:41:03] Right.

[00:41:04] Well, okay.

[00:41:04] Cause cause okay.

[00:41:06] When does all in the family out?

[00:41:08] When is that?

[00:41:08] When is that out?

[00:41:09] Oh, actually.

[00:41:10] Yeah.

[00:41:10] You know, but that was on a later time.

[00:41:12] Hang on.

[00:41:13] Cause Archie Bunker is allowed to say the N word.

[00:41:15] He says the N word.

[00:41:16] And, and also same with the, the, the Jeffersons.

[00:41:21] They said the N word on that show.

[00:41:22] Well, do they say the N word or do they say Negro?

[00:41:25] No full bore N word.

[00:41:26] Oh yeah.

[00:41:28] Full bore N word.

[00:41:28] Yeah.

[00:41:29] With the hard R.

[00:41:31] Hmm.

[00:41:32] Yeah.

[00:41:33] It's not good.

[00:41:34] People are talking about bringing that character back.

[00:41:36] And I'm like, don't, don't bring that character back.

[00:41:39] Archie Bunker needs to say the sixties where he belongs.

[00:41:43] So that's where I'm like, but this is, this is also not that kind of shows to be fair.

[00:41:46] So yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[00:41:47] So I'm, I'm honestly not sure.

[00:41:49] Um, now I kind of want to know, but I'm not going to sit here and research it in front

[00:41:52] of everybody.

[00:41:53] Cause that's gotten for you people.

[00:41:54] I will say, um, I did, I did get sent a spoiler by, by, by mutual friend of the show

[00:42:08] as a, I don't want to say the word.

[00:42:11] No, that's not a really bad word.

[00:42:13] I mean, it is, but it's not.

[00:42:15] He refers to her as the charming Negress.

[00:42:18] Yeah.

[00:42:18] Yeah.

[00:42:18] So I'm like, that's three steps away from the N word.

[00:42:22] It's pretty close.

[00:42:25] It's close, but it's not, it's not the same, thankfully.

[00:42:29] Um, but the, the line, the line of course is, ah, a Nubian prize taken from one of your

[00:42:34] raids of conquest.

[00:42:35] No doubt.

[00:42:35] During filming the actor, William Campbell blew the line allegedly with a Nubian slave.

[00:42:42] According to Campbell, Nichelle Nichols, uh, responded.

[00:42:47] I'll kick you in the ankle.

[00:42:50] Oh, only in the ankle.

[00:42:51] Oh, okay.

[00:42:52] So I was reasonably restrained.

[00:42:54] So that to me, I, and again, not there.

[00:42:57] So this is, this could have been one of two things.

[00:42:59] Now, Nichelle Nichols was a, I mean, she was very much an activist for African American

[00:43:03] civil rights.

[00:43:04] I can, this is right in the middle of the civil rights movement.

[00:43:06] That's actually, and this is her saying this.

[00:43:09] So I know this is true.

[00:43:10] Um, she was considering quitting the show and it was actually Dr.

[00:43:13] Martin Luther King that told her that she couldn't.

[00:43:16] I mean, he's not saying like, you can't, he's like, oh, but you can't.

[00:43:19] You're such an inspiration, you know?

[00:43:21] You're on a major television show and you're a woman of color in the 1960s.

[00:43:24] You shouldn't.

[00:43:25] Yeah.

[00:43:25] It's like, no, you kind of, you shouldn't.

[00:43:27] Yeah.

[00:43:28] And then she, she apparently, um, now I'm going off memory.

[00:43:33] Uh, again, if I'm wrong, correct me, but the story goes, she had given her resignation

[00:43:37] that Friday and this happened over the weekend.

[00:43:39] And apparently she came back on Monday and asked if she could have her resignation back.

[00:43:43] And the showrunner said, what resignation?

[00:43:45] Uh, I mean, she's, I, I would, I wish she was on this more.

[00:43:49] Like I wish they gave her more to do.

[00:43:51] I'm sure they do.

[00:43:52] She does.

[00:43:53] I was going to say she does.

[00:43:54] Uhura becomes very much a, I mean, she's already been a fairly key part in many episodes,

[00:44:00] but it does get, she does get more as we go.

[00:44:03] This feels like, I mean, this line doesn't feel written maliciously.

[00:44:07] It feels like you needed him to say something racist and have like, well, so, and again,

[00:44:11] this is, I'm going to channel Kevin Smith here for a minute because I don't know.

[00:44:14] But for any of you, any of you who've seen an evening with Kevin Smith, uh, there's a

[00:44:19] moment where he's being asked about, uh, gay representation in his movies.

[00:44:24] And the person who's asking this question is kind of giving him grief for it.

[00:44:28] And she references the bit in chasing Amy where Banky says that lesbians aren't real.

[00:44:34] They're just women that need.

[00:44:36] So yeah, deep.

[00:44:38] And Kevin has to explain to her.

[00:44:40] He said, yeah, but the idiot in the movie is the one who says that.

[00:44:44] Yeah.

[00:44:45] He's wrong.

[00:44:45] That's the point.

[00:44:46] It's like, you have the idiot say it so that you can talk about how wrong it is, but it

[00:44:52] has to be said.

[00:44:53] It's sort of like how people on, on Tik TOK in particular will identify with Cartman from

[00:44:58] South park.

[00:44:59] And it's like, you get that.

[00:45:00] He's the bad guy, right?

[00:45:02] He's here we go again.

[00:45:03] I love how we always bring up these, these themes inadvertently, but yet they, they always

[00:45:08] come.

[00:45:08] It's almost like, it's almost like there's a recurring theme in fictional stories, you know?

[00:45:13] Right.

[00:45:13] Exactly.

[00:45:14] You're not supposed to listen to the guy who sucks.

[00:45:16] Like that's the, so yeah, this line is written.

[00:45:18] So he looks like an asshole.

[00:45:20] Like, I don't think the person who wrote it was a bad, that doesn't make like credit,

[00:45:25] a criticism is not condemnation.

[00:45:27] Yeah.

[00:45:27] Yeah.

[00:45:27] Yeah.

[00:45:28] So the, the line exists so that Trelane can look even more foolish for not understanding

[00:45:32] the context of the history in which he's witnessing.

[00:45:35] Right.

[00:45:36] And I appreciate that.

[00:45:37] I, when you, when you think of this in the 1960s, that like, even in the 1960s, the show

[00:45:43] understands that's racist, which is kind of incredible when you think about it, as you pointed

[00:45:47] out, this is in the height of the, so that's a, that's something that someone would say comfortably

[00:45:53] back then.

[00:45:54] Some people.

[00:45:55] Yeah.

[00:45:56] Some people.

[00:45:56] Certainly, certainly more so than today.

[00:45:58] Although like again, and well, Nubian is not a, I mean, it's not a great, I just

[00:46:03] always remember chasing Amy again.

[00:46:04] What's a Nubian?

[00:46:05] What's a Nubian?

[00:46:09] What's a Nubian?

[00:46:11] What's a Nubian?

[00:46:11] You almost made me laugh.

[00:46:14] What about me?

[00:46:15] I didn't know you were going to scream black rage.

[00:46:17] I nearly myself.

[00:46:20] But anyway, so I, I like to think that Michelle's response about kick you in the ankle was a

[00:46:25] little bit of a jab, like giving him a little grief for messing up, but not being like actual,

[00:46:31] like, I hate you, you racist piece of sh**.

[00:46:33] I'm not understanding that it was a mistake, but.

[00:46:35] Right?

[00:46:36] But I don't know.

[00:46:37] I think he said the N word.

[00:46:37] Maybe, I don't know.

[00:46:38] I mean, kicking you in the ankles does feel lighthearted.

[00:46:40] Like, it's not like she went, I'm going to get you right in the, right in the, uh, the cherries.

[00:46:44] Yeah.

[00:46:46] I'm going to kick you right in the d**k.

[00:46:48] Right in the d**k for your racism.

[00:46:50] But yeah, Uhura at the Piano Man.

[00:46:51] Uh, this is so much fun.

[00:46:54] And Michelle Nichols is clearly having a blast.

[00:46:56] I did think that was funny.

[00:46:58] It was like, I don't know how to play this.

[00:46:59] Yes, you do.

[00:47:00] Although.

[00:47:01] Yes, I do.

[00:47:02] She's just super into it.

[00:47:03] So that moment, the fact that she goes out of her way to say, I don't know how to play

[00:47:06] this instrument.

[00:47:07] And then she instantly can.

[00:47:08] You'll appreciate this.

[00:47:10] Instantly.

[00:47:10] My mind went to the planet of the Apes musical from the Simpsons.

[00:47:13] Can I play the piano anymore?

[00:47:16] Of course you can.

[00:47:17] Well, I couldn't before.

[00:47:24] Yes.

[00:47:24] Yes, absolutely.

[00:47:26] Oh my God.

[00:47:26] Are you the one making a Simpsons reference?

[00:47:29] I'm so proud.

[00:47:30] Only because I, so this is, this is such a, a coworker of mine actually made the joke.

[00:47:35] He, he was just wondering, he was like, Dr. Zayas, Dr. Zayas, Dr. Zayas, Dr. Zayas.

[00:47:40] And I was like, what are you talking?

[00:47:41] Cause like, I've seen planet of the Apes.

[00:47:42] So I know who Dr. Zayas is, but I'm like, what are you?

[00:47:44] He was like, oh, the planet of the Apes musical.

[00:47:46] I'm like, the what?

[00:47:48] And he was like, I have to tell you a funny story about it.

[00:47:52] Okay.

[00:47:53] Real quickly.

[00:47:55] Um, my first exposure to plan the Apes was that song when I was a kid.

[00:47:59] So I thought Dr. Zayas was a huge character in planet of the Apes.

[00:48:03] Like I'm like, he's, I thought he was a major character.

[00:48:06] So the first time I watched that movie and he's like one scene.

[00:48:09] I'm like, what, where's the bit where he, where he's like, I love you.

[00:48:13] Dr. Zayas.

[00:48:14] I'm like, I was just disappointed.

[00:48:16] Oh my God.

[00:48:17] I just love it.

[00:48:18] Cause my mind instantly went to, can I play the piano anymore?

[00:48:22] Of course you can.

[00:48:23] Well, I couldn't before.

[00:48:27] Uh, RIP Phil Hartman, man.

[00:48:30] Such a, uh, such a loss.

[00:48:32] That character was great.

[00:48:33] You know, they're going to make a movie.

[00:48:34] They're going to make a live action movie where he was going to play a live

[00:48:36] action Troy McClure.

[00:48:38] Oh my God.

[00:48:39] I know.

[00:48:39] I know.

[00:48:40] I would've watched out of that.

[00:48:41] It would've been phenomenal.

[00:48:42] But that, that song is on my like rotating playlist.

[00:48:45] It's so funny when you're like, I don't like the Simpsons.

[00:48:48] I'm like, ah, but it's like a staple of television.

[00:48:51] This play has everything.

[00:48:53] Hmm.

[00:48:53] I love legitimate theater.

[00:48:55] I love legitimate theater.

[00:48:58] I hate every ape I see from chimpan A to chimpanzee.

[00:49:05] That's a difficult thing.

[00:49:06] They need to make a Planet of the Apes musical.

[00:49:08] Oh God.

[00:49:09] And that song has to be in there.

[00:49:10] Both of them have to be in there.

[00:49:11] I love you Dr. Zayas.

[00:49:13] Dr. Zayas.

[00:49:14] We love you!

[00:49:16] We love you!

[00:49:16] Following sponsor.

[00:49:20] Kirk and Spock both noticed that their host never strays far from a particular wall mirror.

[00:50:01] They surmise that the mirror is the source of his powers.

[00:50:04] To test this theory, Kirk provokes Trelane into a duel.

[00:50:08] And during the fight, he destroys the mirror and damages some strange machinery inside.

[00:50:12] The bridge crew then beam back aboard the Enterprise.

[00:50:15] Okay, so it's really funny.

[00:50:17] I've listened to Hamilton so many times that there's a song literally called The Rules of Dueling.

[00:50:22] But like, as the person challenging or being to know that he was the one who challenged,

[00:50:27] doesn't Kirk get to choose the weapons?

[00:50:29] Isn't that the whole deal?

[00:50:30] If we follow the rules of dueling, doesn't he get to choose the weapons?

[00:50:33] I think technically, but again, Trelane, there's an out.

[00:50:36] Trelane doesn't actually understand and we can't expect Kirk to know the finer details

[00:50:40] because being from the 23rd century.

[00:50:43] Oh, that's fair.

[00:50:44] Because I would have been like, if I was Kirk, I would have been like, I get to choose the weapon and I choose my fists.

[00:50:48] It's like, I get to choose the weapon and I also choose to shoot you in the face.

[00:50:53] I mean, he doesn't though.

[00:50:54] So that is one common misconception about duels though, is actually them going to the death is actually extremely rare.

[00:51:02] Oh yeah, that's the...

[00:51:03] Which is probably why they were tolerated for so long.

[00:51:06] That's the case that I think that's a line in Hamilton where he's like most duels end before you actually get to the point.

[00:51:12] Because usually by the point where you're about to shoot at each other, you both realize that the conflict you had wasn't worth it.

[00:51:19] It's so...

[00:51:20] I'm not going to say, oh, it's my understanding that the duel was essentially just a way to somewhat retain your gentlemanly honor.

[00:51:27] Like, there's kind of a wink, wink, nod, nod of like, yes, I am willing to put my life on the line for this, but it's not going to escalate to that point.

[00:51:35] But I still get to look good and say that I would die for this cause, you know?

[00:51:39] Exactly.

[00:51:40] Also, when he shoots the thing, those are some cartoony sound effects.

[00:51:45] They really...

[00:51:46] When they're on the bridge, you're a space fleet command.

[00:51:57] So we're getting closer, even though in some previous episodes, they've already used the phrase Starfleet.

[00:52:01] So...

[00:52:02] We're getting closer.

[00:52:03] We're getting closer.

[00:52:04] I was like, space fleet is probably more accurate if we're being honest.

[00:52:08] When they get back to the bridge, I will say this about this.

[00:52:10] Yeah, yeah.

[00:52:11] It's interesting to me that this new Yao Min second appearance also, she ends up wearing a princess dress.

[00:52:18] It was just a weird coincidence.

[00:52:19] Is this her first or second appearance?

[00:52:22] The blonde one?

[00:52:22] This is her first from what I've heard.

[00:52:24] Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:52:25] Okay.

[00:52:26] I thought it was her first.

[00:52:27] I was like, I don't recall seeing this one before.

[00:52:29] No.

[00:52:29] He clearly likes this one.

[00:52:31] Yeah, the way he does the double take when she walks away in the dress.

[00:52:34] I thought that was his eyes, but he made a funny look.

[00:52:37] But I'm like, her reaction to...

[00:52:38] She, unlike the brunette, perfectly measured response to just having...

[00:52:43] She didn't even really react.

[00:52:44] She just kind of did her job.

[00:52:46] Yeah, as opposed to Uhuru who's just over here.

[00:52:49] Right?

[00:52:50] Um, but I...

[00:52:51] It's funny you mentioned the previous Yao Min.

[00:52:53] Yeah, she always seemed to get really emotional and was unable to compartmentalize this one.

[00:52:57] No problem.

[00:52:58] Yeah, she at least kept her cool.

[00:53:00] I mean, yeah.

[00:53:01] Right?

[00:53:01] So...

[00:53:01] She was bringing everyone coffee and sandwiches on the bridge.

[00:53:04] There's so many coffees in the opening scene.

[00:53:07] Right?

[00:53:08] Everybody's got them on the console and I'm like...

[00:53:09] This feels precarious.

[00:53:10] What if you spilled this?

[00:53:11] Yes, you're in a spaceship for f*** sake.

[00:53:14] Right?

[00:53:15] Coaster...

[00:53:15] Not coaster...

[00:53:16] Cup holders.

[00:53:17] Kind of feels like they should have cup holders.

[00:53:18] Were cup holders not a thing in the 60s?

[00:53:20] I feel like they were.

[00:53:21] They had to be, right?

[00:53:22] I don't think they were in cars, no.

[00:53:24] Oh, s***.

[00:53:25] Okay, fair enough.

[00:53:26] Sulu in particular, his precarious coffee cup on the console.

[00:53:29] I'm like, man, you use that to drive.

[00:53:31] That feels...

[00:53:32] That's bold.

[00:53:34] What do you think somebody would do?

[00:53:35] They spilled a coffee and just like...

[00:53:38] And they're just like...

[00:53:40] Hopefully nobody notices.

[00:53:41] And they're just kind of like...

[00:53:43] Inconspicuously trying to...

[00:53:45] I mean, not to jump ahead, but...

[00:53:47] Part of me kind of wanted...

[00:53:48] When they were doing the space chase and later on in the episode...

[00:53:50] The coffee cups to all be still on the consoles...

[00:53:52] And they turn and just all fall over.

[00:53:54] I could just imagine like...

[00:53:55] That'd be a fun...

[00:53:56] That'd be a fun little skit though.

[00:53:57] Somebody does the coffee spilling thing.

[00:53:59] You just hear Scott in the background be like...

[00:54:00] Oh, something's happening with the instrumentation, captain.

[00:54:03] What could it possibly be?

[00:54:05] Could be interstellar interference.

[00:54:06] Could be a number of things.

[00:54:08] And you're like...

[00:54:09] That's my station.

[00:54:10] I think I'd like to slow...

[00:54:12] I slow pan over to Sulu.

[00:54:13] Like, yeah, that's definitely what it is.

[00:54:15] Is he feverishly just...

[00:54:17] It could be...

[00:54:19] Space dust, captain.

[00:54:22] Pay no attention.

[00:54:24] It could be stellar condensation, captain.

[00:54:27] Stellar condensation.

[00:54:28] Bye, captain.

[00:54:28] It's when there's liquid in space.

[00:54:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:54:32] It could be anything.

[00:54:34] I forget the navigators.

[00:54:35] I always want the navigators.

[00:54:36] Like, Sulu did it.

[00:54:37] Way to be a rat.

[00:54:40] Yeah.

[00:54:41] The sound's like, oh, Sulu spilled his coffee.

[00:54:43] Just looks at me and it's like...

[00:54:45] You know I own swords, right?

[00:54:48] Right.

[00:54:48] I will run you through with my rapier.

[00:54:52] Hey, Sulu, don't threaten me with a good time.

[00:54:55] And a romance blossoms.

[00:54:56] I feel like by the end of this series, I will have impressions of all of these actors and characters down.

[00:55:03] Like, just down.

[00:55:05] As the ship attempts to warp away, the planet Gothos keeps appearing in its path.

[00:55:11] Kirk finally orders the Enterprise into orbit and decides to beam down alone.

[00:55:15] On the planet, Kirk finds Trelane seated on a courtroom bench dressed in a white wig and robes reminiscent of an English judge.

[00:55:24] Trelane condemns Kirk to death by hanging.

[00:55:27] Kirk, however, points out that Trelane could find a more stimulating alternative.

[00:55:32] This is when I realized this scene in particular where I was like, oh, Trelane is just Q before Q.

[00:55:38] I don't know.

[00:55:40] I guess I'll find out what that means.

[00:55:41] Yeah, you don't get that reference yet.

[00:55:43] But in an interview on the Star Trek Season 7 Next Generation DVD set, John Delancey, I believe John Delancey, John Delancey A.

[00:55:53] I'm not sure how you pronounce your name.

[00:55:54] I apologize if I f*** that up.

[00:55:56] He said he believed that Gene Roddenberry, whether consciously or subconsciously, was channeling Trelane when he created the character of Q.

[00:56:04] Oh, interesting.

[00:56:05] Many people have gone so far as to postulate that Trelane is the same sort of being as Q, but a less mature one.

[00:56:12] Oh, interesting.

[00:56:13] Because Q has the same abilities.

[00:56:15] He can change matter around.

[00:56:17] He can, you know, warp time and space.

[00:56:19] Is he a bad guy?

[00:56:22] He's an antagonist.

[00:56:23] I'm not going to go so far as to say he's a bad guy.

[00:56:25] Is he the one that he's like, well, you said next generation.

[00:56:30] So is he the one that he's like Picard's like Moriarty almost?

[00:56:34] Basically, but he's an alien being that exists on a higher, like think Brainiac, but instead of Brainiac versus Superman, it's like Brainiac versus Jimmy Olsen.

[00:56:43] Okay.

[00:56:43] Okay.

[00:56:43] Yeah, I think I am familiar with this character by reputation.

[00:56:47] Probably.

[00:56:47] You probably know him if you saw him.

[00:56:50] Probably.

[00:56:50] Yeah.

[00:56:50] But this, this core, this whole, this whole next section, solid Shatner act, solid Shatner acting.

[00:56:56] His eyes, when that news came out, just went wide.

[00:56:59] He was like, Oh, this just got real.

[00:57:01] Well, it's interesting.

[00:57:02] You say it got real because it starts out with just a shadow.

[00:57:04] And I really liked that.

[00:57:06] My first thought, my first thought honestly was like, Oh, are they not allowed to show a noose on television?

[00:57:12] But they eventually, I had a similar thought.

[00:57:14] I'm like, Oh, can they just not show this?

[00:57:16] It's odd.

[00:57:16] And then they, I, it was really effective when it showed up in his eye.

[00:57:19] And I was like, this is oddly dark.

[00:57:21] I don't know.

[00:57:21] It was like, Oh, hanging.

[00:57:22] I was like, Oh, okay.

[00:57:23] It was like, Oh no, this is just an artistic choice.

[00:57:25] And I'm here for it.

[00:57:27] This one also, I have a note.

[00:57:28] This is, this also could have felt like it could have been a two parter.

[00:57:32] And at this point I was like, there were nine minutes left.

[00:57:34] And I genuinely am unsure how this is going to resolve, which is always a sign of good television.

[00:57:39] In my opinion.

[00:57:41] Yeah.

[00:57:41] It could, you know, what's funny is if they were making the show today, they would have expanded it into a two parter, which is ironic because people are always talking about how attention spans are going down and don't get me wrong.

[00:57:50] They are.

[00:57:51] Television seems to not be going that way.

[00:57:54] Like television and film, especially.

[00:57:56] It's a function of the fact that they, I assume syndication exists in the sixties, right?

[00:58:01] Yeah.

[00:58:02] This show needs to run a syndication and you need to be able to watch it in any order at

[00:58:06] any point at any time.

[00:58:07] And that's exactly.

[00:58:08] Yep.

[00:58:08] That's exactly right.

[00:58:10] That is exactly right.

[00:58:11] Which is why the menagerie works as a two parter because the recap doesn't really take all that long.

[00:58:16] No.

[00:58:16] And like, so a lot of modern television has moved in serialization because of the fact that it's on streaming and most streaming shows are just eight hour movies.

[00:58:25] I mean, basically, but sometimes it works because I, you know, what's funny is I was catching myself thinking the other day.

[00:58:31] I was like, you know what?

[00:58:32] I really miss the mini series, but effectively we just, we have it.

[00:58:36] It's just, yeah, it's now what television it's right.

[00:58:39] It's like, Oh, it's a six episode show.

[00:58:41] And it's like, yeah, we, that's what we have.

[00:58:42] But those shows suck.

[00:58:43] Usually that they, they, they, they're always unbalanced and wonky.

[00:58:46] Nine times out of 10, their pacing is awful.

[00:58:49] Yeah.

[00:58:49] Most of the time what it really is, it's like, so I'm going to use two examples here.

[00:58:53] My first example is the Yu Yu Hakusho live action adaptation, which should have just been a series.

[00:58:59] Well, let's be real.

[00:59:00] Shouldn't have been made at all, but if you must make it, it should have been a longer series because as a huge fan of the original anime, I'm watching this and I'm like, Oh my God, you've stripped away the entire soul of this.

[00:59:13] And it's like, it's like you gave somebody like a really condensed outline and they're just hitting certain action beats, but there's no buildup or context of anything that's going on.

[00:59:24] So it's just all really hollow and bad.

[00:59:27] And for some reason, Yusuke has scoliosis or something.

[00:59:31] Cause he's constantly hunched over.

[00:59:33] And I'm just like, this is just bad.

[00:59:35] Um, my, my example, I always go to is those Marvel, the Disney plus shows where you get to the second to last episode.

[00:59:41] And you're like, there's at least two or three episodes worth of television left, but there's one episode.

[00:59:45] There's no way they could possibly resolve this satisfyingly.

[00:59:48] And then they don't.

[00:59:50] Yeah.

[00:59:50] Yeah, exactly.

[00:59:51] And then of course, then you, then you have the other example, which sometimes you'll watch a show like that.

[00:59:56] And the pacing is just so bad.

[00:59:57] You're just like, this honestly just should have been a movie.

[00:59:59] Right.

[01:00:00] Like Hawkeye, Hawkeye could have been a movie.

[01:00:03] Uh, moon.

[01:00:04] But nobody movie.

[01:00:05] Moon Knight, probably Hawkeye.

[01:00:07] Nobody's going to pay to watch that.

[01:00:09] No, but I, I, there's a lot of those shows where I'm like this, this, this could have been a, this would have been much better if it was just a two hour movie.

[01:00:14] Uh, but yeah, I miss, I miss.

[01:00:16] I miss it.

[01:00:17] That's why, that's why my controversial take has always been, we should bring back cable in the 22 episode season.

[01:00:22] Um, I missed, I missed the, I missed, I missed the 22 episode season.

[01:00:26] Yeah, I really do.

[01:00:28] And it's kind of, I mean, I guess I can understand why they got rid of it because I just, I'm with you.

[01:00:35] I miss it from a production standpoint.

[01:00:37] It was hell on, on like writers and actors and all that.

[01:00:41] And it really was like they had to work, but.

[01:00:44] In terms of a, of an audience, I understand why, why the people who work on this stuff, but also it creates less work.

[01:00:50] Right?

[01:00:50] Like you're not doing, you're not working all year.

[01:00:53] Like a lot of these shows used to, you're working like maybe once every two, three years, if you're lucky.

[01:00:57] Well, but I see, I choose to think about that.

[01:01:00] Cause you think of like these, these shows that used to span, you know, like seven, eight seasons of a 22, 24 episode.

[01:01:08] So, I mean, that was straight income for seven, eight years.

[01:01:13] Right?

[01:01:14] Like for me, like, um, often bring up supernatural, but yeah, those guys were like salt had solid work for 13, 13 years.

[01:01:20] Yeah.

[01:01:21] Yeah.

[01:01:22] And it's not, and it's not like you never got breaks.

[01:01:24] Like they would be off for periods.

[01:01:25] Cause some of these people, like, I always think of one tree hill, um, because like Chad and Michael Murray would go do a movie on their off time.

[01:01:31] Sophia Bush did some, I know Hillary Burton did other projects.

[01:01:34] Bethany, Joy lens did other projects.

[01:01:36] Like everybody was involved with other stuff.

[01:01:39] I always, um, refer to the summer that Jared and Jensen made, made the horror movies because they went off and made, uh, he, uh, Jensen, Jared went off and made that Friday the 13th remake, which is basically just an episode of supernatural with boobs.

[01:01:52] And, uh, uh, Jensen, uh, went off and made my bloody Valentine.

[01:01:57] That's yeah, that's right.

[01:01:58] Now the one upshot to streaming though, is you can get, which I mean, it depends on the show, but this, this could be a plus or minus depending on it.

[01:02:06] On what show you're talking about is sometimes you can tell a lot more.

[01:02:09] Your stories can feel a lot more natural because you're not constrained with FCC regulations.

[01:02:15] Yeah.

[01:02:16] Like, like for example, somebody could call somebody in a teen drama that would be logical sense.

[01:02:23] If it makes sense in the story.

[01:02:25] Yeah.

[01:02:25] I, I like it though.

[01:02:26] When, when television has rains on it, I do too.

[01:02:29] I do too.

[01:02:29] I do too.

[01:02:30] But it makes you be creative, but like Star Trek couldn't exist today.

[01:02:36] There's no way.

[01:02:38] Not, not in its first, like the only reason Star Trek shows exist today is because the original, the previous shows exist and established the universe.

[01:02:46] Like it would last one season, 10 episodes, and then it would get canceled because people would be like, this is boring.

[01:02:52] Like that, like, I mean, yeah.

[01:02:54] Like I shows like, like when everyone's like, Oh, what happened to classic television?

[01:02:57] I'm like, you guys cancel stuff so fast.

[01:03:00] You don't allow stuff to become classic television.

[01:03:02] Like me and Jordan constantly talk about how a lot of shows take a season to get good, but you need to have a rocky first season where you learn all of the, you learn who Kirk is.

[01:03:11] You'll learn who Spock is.

[01:03:13] You'll learn who McCoy is, you know?

[01:03:15] Yeah.

[01:03:15] I couldn't agree more.

[01:03:16] Back to our story.

[01:03:18] Trelane suggests that Kirk be prey for a Royal hunt and Kirk agrees in return for the release of his ship.

[01:03:24] And the hunt begins, except that Trelane never actually releases the ship.

[01:03:28] And I'm like, Kirk tries to raise concerns about this, but understandably he's being chased by a maniac with a sword.

[01:03:35] So it turns out the sword wasn't dangerous at all, but we'll get there.

[01:03:38] Yeah.

[01:03:40] So the conversation he has with Tremaine, Tremaine?

[01:03:44] Trelane.

[01:03:44] Yeah.

[01:03:45] Trelane.

[01:03:46] Where it's cutting back and forth and it has that closeup of Kirk on the blue background.

[01:03:52] Was that, were those, do you have a note at all about those being filmed on separate days?

[01:03:55] Because it sure looked like they were filmed on separate days.

[01:03:58] I don't, but now that you mentioned it, probably.

[01:04:01] But do you know, but do you know what I said?

[01:04:02] What I mean?

[01:04:03] Where it has those weird cuts between like, it was weird.

[01:04:05] Cause they're like standing across from each other.

[01:04:08] And then there's a weird hard cut and it's Kirk on that blue background.

[01:04:11] And I'm like, that doesn't feel like they're this, this feels like it's from a separate take.

[01:04:15] It was very strange.

[01:04:16] It very likely was.

[01:04:18] Cause I mean, most of these episodes had like seven day production or six day productions.

[01:04:22] I think this one, this one, I think was a seven day production.

[01:04:25] If I read it correctly, cause they went a day over a schedule.

[01:04:29] At one point during the fight, William Campbell dislocated his shoulder.

[01:04:32] And apparently you can see it.

[01:04:34] Huh?

[01:04:34] That, that fight sequence was, I mean, obviously Kirk rolls all day, baby.

[01:04:38] You know what?

[01:04:38] I have a note for Kirk roll, but I was like, but honestly, this one makes sense.

[01:04:42] It did.

[01:04:42] He rolled completely out of the way.

[01:04:44] It made total sense.

[01:04:45] I don't think this fight is as good as his one with Finnegan though.

[01:04:49] Like, it's not as fun.

[01:04:51] Like that, that, that fight was like a drag out, like knuckle.

[01:04:55] Like they were, they were like dirty.

[01:04:56] This was just like, he's just dodging out of the way of an impotent guy who's never been in a fight.

[01:05:00] Well, this wasn't music.

[01:05:01] This didn't have fun music either.

[01:05:02] Like this was, there were stakes here.

[01:05:05] There were stakes here.

[01:05:06] And for Lane is one of the most dangerous kinds of people because he does not understand the consequences of his actions.

[01:05:13] No.

[01:05:13] Like to him, death doesn't have the same weight as it would for a mortal being because to him, it's just a game.

[01:05:21] Yeah, exactly.

[01:05:22] And that's truly frightening if you think about it because.

[01:05:26] Dangerous.

[01:05:27] Yeah.

[01:05:27] Well, yeah.

[01:05:28] When he doesn't understand how, how that, yeah.

[01:05:30] That's what, that's why homicidal kids are so scary.

[01:05:32] Yeah.

[01:05:33] Yeah.

[01:05:34] Because they don't understand.

[01:05:35] They have no concept.

[01:05:36] Yeah.

[01:05:36] The, the, the, the choreography of this fight though, like it wasn't bad, but it's a pet peeve of mine.

[01:05:42] Whenever they're sore, like there's one.

[01:05:43] There's one point where her main, true lane actually keeps his sword low because Kirk is going to do a downward swing to the sword.

[01:05:52] Yeah.

[01:05:52] When you can tell, when you can tell that it's choreographed.

[01:05:55] Yeah.

[01:05:55] Yeah.

[01:05:55] No, fair enough.

[01:05:56] That's really, that does distract me too.

[01:05:58] We can see them anticipating moves.

[01:06:01] Which I mean, fair enough, but this is such, it's not even a nitpick because I'm not going to fault the show for, for this.

[01:06:09] It's just something that I notice.

[01:06:11] I, yeah, I know what you mean.

[01:06:12] I do, I do notice it where you can see, but for me, that comes from like, if you've either been in a fight or a form of a fight or like you've had to stage fighting, you kind of recognize the signs of stage fighting.

[01:06:24] It just, it just happens.

[01:06:26] Well, it's, it also comes from like, if you've ever fenced, for example, even competitively, you understand that a lot of these fights that are choreographed for screen are not realistic whatsoever.

[01:06:35] Even, even the good ones.

[01:06:37] Cause it's like, yeah, it looks cool, but nobody would actually do that.

[01:06:39] Cause it's stupid.

[01:06:41] But also like in, in universe, in character, it makes sense that he, Trelane doesn't understand how to sword fight.

[01:06:49] Well, and it makes sense that Kirk, I like it.

[01:06:52] That Kirk isn't a good sword fighter.

[01:06:53] That's Kirk is very, Kirk is very much exploiting the fact that Trelane doesn't know what he's doing because he's able to anticipate a move.

[01:07:01] But fun fact, this reminds me of something that I found.

[01:07:04] And at first I didn't think it was real, but it turns out it is real.

[01:07:07] There's some like medieval mixed martial arts leagues somewhere in the UK.

[01:07:14] That's exactly what it sounds like.

[01:07:16] Yeah.

[01:07:17] It's, I think I've heard of this.

[01:07:17] It's, it's MMA, but they use swords, right?

[01:07:20] Well, full armor, full medieval weaponry.

[01:07:23] I feel like I've seen this.

[01:07:24] I gotta say, obviously they're blunted, but it's really shows how effective armor truly was.

[01:07:31] Oh yeah, for sure.

[01:07:32] I mean, it's wild.

[01:07:33] There's this misconception.

[01:07:35] And this is one of the things about historical films that I absolutely hate is the fact that like they make it seem like armor so prohibitably heavy that you can't even move.

[01:07:45] And it's just like, no, because if it was, no one would wear it.

[01:07:50] Yeah.

[01:07:51] They wouldn't make it like that.

[01:07:52] No, I mean, it's heavy, but also I mean to be fair, it's like 50 pounds wearing it.

[01:07:57] Well, it's like 50 pounds heavy though.

[01:07:59] When it's distributed across your entire body, like modern day soldiers packs are heavier than that.

[01:08:04] Yeah.

[01:08:05] It's the same.

[01:08:05] It's the same concept as those where you, you just get used to carrying it.

[01:08:08] It's just, you get used to wearing it.

[01:08:10] Yeah.

[01:08:10] Well, and also that you can wear it.

[01:08:12] Also swords are always presented as heavier than they actually were.

[01:08:16] So there's this like thought of a knight being this big lumbering juggernaut that if he falls off his horse, he can't stand up.

[01:08:23] And it's just like, no, no, no.

[01:08:27] They, it's one of the things that the movie, The Last Duel actually does that I like is the fact that it shows how brutal medieval combat actually was without making it seem like a knight was helpless.

[01:08:37] No, a knight was very much not helpless.

[01:08:40] But the other thing too is most movies, if they even show Gambison, which is a Shadiversity, another great history YouTuber, particularly medieval weaponry and arms and clothing is Gambison.

[01:08:56] If they show it at all is always portrayed as like this really soft cloth.

[01:08:59] Gambison was actually really effective at protecting you from even sword blows.

[01:09:05] Like obviously not as good as armor, but like, yeah.

[01:09:09] And also I think effective weren't medieval swords.

[01:09:11] They're not, they weren't like super duper sharp because they didn't really need to be.

[01:09:14] Cause they were obviously trying to.

[01:09:16] Oh no, they were sharp.

[01:09:17] Yeah, they absolutely were.

[01:09:19] But this, this medieval MMA league, first of all, I'm trying to find it.

[01:09:24] Cause I'll be honest.

[01:09:25] I'm going to watch the out of this.

[01:09:27] Yeah.

[01:09:27] I've heard of it.

[01:09:28] I feel like I've heard of this.

[01:09:29] It's really, it's really weird because I watched a guy like going on a dude with a sword.

[01:09:35] And then do like a legitimate leg sweep.

[01:09:37] And I was like, holy.

[01:09:38] This is amazing.

[01:09:40] I mean, this is great.

[01:09:42] Internet.

[01:09:43] You find, you find the wildest stuff on the internet.

[01:09:45] So do we have anything else about the, the epic battle?

[01:09:50] No, no, I don't.

[01:09:51] No, I don't.

[01:09:52] That was pretty great.

[01:09:53] Well, in that case, we will further annoy the viewers with another diversion.

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[01:10:49] Like, can we just say, like, I had f***ing goosebumps.

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[01:11:38] So Captain Kirk is eventually cornered at the castle entrance but remains defiant.

[01:11:43] He slaps Trulane right in the face.

[01:11:46] Tells him he has a lot to learn about life and breaks Trulane's sword.

[01:11:51] I did a double take when he grabbed the sword and broke it over his knee because I'm like, wow, that's a s***y sword.

[01:11:56] You should not be able to do that.

[01:11:58] Also, you should be missing some fingers after grabbing a sword that way.

[01:12:01] So clearly, this thing is not dangerous to anyone at all.

[01:12:05] But it also makes sense because it was like, obviously he doesn't know what an actual sword is like.

[01:12:09] Why would he know?

[01:12:09] And that's what I thought of immediately after that.

[01:12:12] I'm like, of course the sword would be blunt because he doesn't understand that it would have to have an edge to it.

[01:12:17] But yeah, it's quite funny.

[01:12:18] Like, no.

[01:12:20] Like, you can't.

[01:12:21] It's Steel Man.

[01:12:24] Especially considering what we find out about this character coming up.

[01:12:28] Yeah, it just kind of makes sense.

[01:12:29] Yeah, coming up right now.

[01:12:30] Because suddenly, two energy beings appear to call out Trulane, ordering him to come along and lecturing him for his misbehavior.

[01:12:38] He then disappears and the two beings follow after apologizing to Kirk, who returns to the ship.

[01:12:43] I gotta say, Trulane's acting as a little kid was fan-ass.

[01:12:48] Oh, it's so good.

[01:12:49] Yeah, it's just immediately, oh, he's a kid.

[01:12:51] Yeah, but you always stop me when I'm having fun.

[01:12:54] I gotta say, I didn't see that one coming.

[01:12:56] I got that instantly.

[01:12:57] I was like, oh, he's a child.

[01:12:59] And this is like chef's kiss perfection.

[01:13:01] Yeah.

[01:13:02] I was winning.

[01:13:05] Well, the fact that he drops the accent.

[01:13:07] He now has just a generalized American accent.

[01:13:09] Yeah, yeah.

[01:13:10] I thought about this as we've been talking.

[01:13:12] The cloud things, I recognize them as from a future being referenced in something.

[01:13:18] I feel like there's a version of them in Futurama or something.

[01:13:22] So probably Star Trek does the sort of ethereal aliens like that a lot.

[01:13:28] If you recall, very much in the same vein as the Phasians of Charlie X.

[01:13:36] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:13:38] Phasians, whatever.

[01:13:40] Yeah, right.

[01:13:40] I completely forgot about them.

[01:13:41] See, if they kept Charlie around and taught the lad right from wrong, he would have been very useful against Trelane.

[01:13:48] Right?

[01:13:49] There's so many like now like fan episodes that I want to write and produce now.

[01:13:53] And this one is where somehow Trelane and Charlie connect.

[01:13:57] And I'm like, we're going to get this.

[01:14:00] Let's just become after Kirk.

[01:14:02] Yeah, let's just come after Kirk.

[01:14:04] For revenge.

[01:14:04] Strange.

[01:14:05] Well, I'm like these.

[01:14:06] This character is good enough.

[01:14:07] Well, I mean, I have a note for the end of the episode, which is just does this character come back?

[01:14:11] But I'm like, you could do a movie with this character.

[01:14:14] Honestly, you could have.

[01:14:15] Yeah.

[01:14:15] I would watch Chris Pine, but Chris Pine fight this guy.

[01:14:19] Ooh, who would you get to play him today, though?

[01:14:22] Oh.

[01:14:23] Honestly, I feel like today humor is a little bit different.

[01:14:26] You know who I think could nail this part today?

[01:14:28] Either.

[01:14:28] I could take either one.

[01:14:30] Actually, of the three.

[01:14:31] I think you could get Will Ferrell to do it.

[01:14:33] I think you could get Hugh Jackman to do it.

[01:14:34] And I think you could get Ryan Reynolds to do it.

[01:14:36] That would all be fun.

[01:14:37] See, I mean, my friends, he's like Neil Patrick Harris because he did the.

[01:14:40] Oh, Neil Patrick Harris.

[01:14:43] Yes, he would do.

[01:14:44] Like there's so many actors that could nail this.

[01:14:47] It depends.

[01:14:47] Are we going a bit older?

[01:14:49] Because I'm like, I don't know.

[01:14:49] I'm still a fan of Martin Short.

[01:14:52] You know what's funny?

[01:14:53] You know who else could nail this role?

[01:14:55] Chris Hemsworth.

[01:14:56] He could.

[01:14:57] Chris Hemsworth is a lot funnier than people give him credit for.

[01:15:01] Oh, yeah.

[01:15:01] I was floored when I realized how funny he truly was.

[01:15:06] But did you see him in the remake of Vacation?

[01:15:09] Is that the one where the joke is that he has a giant dong?

[01:15:12] Oh, my gosh.

[01:15:14] And he just Captain Morgan's in these boxer briefs.

[01:15:18] And it's just.

[01:15:19] I mean, I don't love the 2016 Ghostbusters, but man, he's funny in that movie.

[01:15:24] Oh, he's the only good part.

[01:15:26] Yeah.

[01:15:26] He steals.

[01:15:27] He steals every scene he's in.

[01:15:29] It is so funny.

[01:15:31] The only funny thing that the only funny thing that Melissa McCarthy ever said in that movie

[01:15:36] wasn't even in that movie.

[01:15:37] I think it was an interview she did afterwards when she said it was she got off because of

[01:15:41] how funny he was.

[01:15:43] Yeah, it's not fair.

[01:15:43] You can't be that good looking and funny.

[01:15:46] It's not fair.

[01:15:47] And then she adds, it's like, well, at least maybe he's told and then he's like the sweetest

[01:15:51] guy ever.

[01:15:51] It's like, no, you know, it's not perfect.

[01:15:54] But anyway, Star Trek.

[01:15:56] Well, actually, we're we're we're done with the synopsis.

[01:15:59] But the only the only other note I have is this won't be the last time we see William

[01:16:02] Campbell.

[01:16:03] OK, that was my question.

[01:16:04] Oh, William Campbell, the actor.

[01:16:06] The actor.

[01:16:07] Yes.

[01:16:07] So the character doesn't come back.

[01:16:09] I wasn't sure we had.

[01:16:10] He does not.

[01:16:11] But William Campbell will return to play the Klingon Koloth in the episode The Trouble

[01:16:16] With Dribbles.

[01:16:16] And he will also reprise the same role of Koloth in Star Trek Deep Space Nine.

[01:16:22] Wow.

[01:16:23] Good for him.

[01:16:24] Just Kirk still isn't good with kids.

[01:16:27] The look on the look on his face is he's got a look on his face that says, man, this

[01:16:32] has been a very long and very weird day.

[01:16:35] And the pranks he describes.

[01:16:37] He does.

[01:16:38] He does.

[01:16:38] He has a lot of weird days.

[01:16:39] The pranks he describes are the weirdest and lamest pranks I've ever heard in my life.

[01:16:45] Well, it was the 60s.

[01:16:46] Yeah, I mean, that's fair.

[01:16:47] They're 1960s print.

[01:16:48] And just what a very strange but very entertaining episode.

[01:16:52] I yeah, it was a lot of fun.

[01:16:54] And once again, I used to not really care for this episode when I was younger.

[01:16:58] I can see why.

[01:16:59] And I love it now.

[01:17:01] Oh, God, it's so great.

[01:17:02] I mean, look, we firmly established Justin's got a love for the silly.

[01:17:07] He got a love for the bizarre and a love for the strange.

[01:17:10] So when Kirk and and and Sulu disappear in the opening scene of this episode, I'm like,

[01:17:17] this is going to be a weird one.

[01:17:18] I'm into it.

[01:17:19] That was the squire of Gothos, which, like I said, might not be my favorite, but it's

[01:17:24] up there thus far.

[01:17:25] I was wrong.

[01:17:26] There was no squire and there was no betrayal.

[01:17:28] There was a Gothos, though.

[01:17:30] There was a there was a squire of Gothos, but it wasn't the squire I was thinking it

[01:17:33] would be.

[01:17:34] Yeah, fair enough.

[01:17:35] But next week, we're going to be taking a look at the episode Arena.

[01:17:39] Justin, as per our usual, you know, game, would you like to take a stab at what will happen

[01:17:44] in Arena?

[01:17:45] I mean, I mean, I'm going to guess that Captain Kirk has fallen in love with the girl named

[01:17:49] Arena.

[01:17:50] There's a love interest named Arena.

[01:17:53] No, no.

[01:17:54] Oh, my second guess would be Arena is a place that they're going to.

[01:17:59] No, no.

[01:18:00] Oh, dang.

[01:18:02] One week, I'm going to one week.

[01:18:04] I'm going to get it spot on.

[01:18:06] I just think it's funny that you like modern television.

[01:18:09] You'd be able to instantly glean what this episode is about solely based on the title.

[01:18:13] This is like very rarely do these episodes have anything to do with what's happening

[01:18:16] in the episode.

[01:18:17] Sometimes they do, but sometimes they don't.

[01:18:19] Well, sometimes in a way that you wouldn't know until you see like the Galileo seven makes

[01:18:23] sense once you've seen the episode.

[01:18:25] So does this.

[01:18:25] I mean, very much.

[01:18:26] Yeah.

[01:18:29] But that being said, join us next week on the final frontier when we go over the much

[01:18:33] beloved episode.

[01:18:34] And Justin, you are going to love this for all the wrong reasons.

[01:18:36] But the episode Arena.

[01:18:39] Crackies know what I'm talking about.

[01:18:42] I'm excited.

[01:18:43] It's going to be crazy.

[01:18:45] There's a joke in there.

[01:18:46] It's going to be crazy.

[01:18:48] I'm excited.

[01:18:49] I'm excited.

[01:18:49] Ah, well.

[01:18:50] I'm excited.

[01:18:51] As always, thank you for watching the final frontier.

[01:18:54] Watch along and prosper.

[01:18:56] Watch along and prosper.

[01:18:57] And we will see you guys next week.

[01:19:01] Next week.

[01:19:02] Shut up.

[01:19:09] I know this bit.

[01:19:11] I know this bit.

[01:19:12] I recognize this bit.

[01:19:13] Okay.

[01:19:14] Let's assume that he somehow someway found a way to plug the back of it.

[01:19:18] He's still, it's bamboo.

[01:19:20] It's not an iron barrel.

[01:19:22] It would have blown up in his face.

[01:19:24] Star Trek likes the space whales.

[01:19:25] That's fair.