The Final Frontier Season 1 Episode 6: I'M CAPTAIN KIRK!!!

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[00:00:09] The Final Frontier Podcast. These are the voyages of Jake Boger and Justin Spur. Our weekly mission to explore memories of Star Trek's strange new worlds. To recall the search for new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has had the spare time to go before.

[00:00:27] Let's talk about some evil Kirk! Let's talk about some evil Kirk! Welcome everyone! Because I like that, I'm gonna keep that evil Kirk.

[00:01:23] Welcome everyone to this week's episode of The Final Frontier. As always, I'm joined by my co-host, my second, oh my god, my first officer, Justin. Heck yeah. Are you Justin?

[00:01:37] I am. And I was just in time today. You know what, I'm owning that. I'm owning that. Spur time.

[00:01:45] I heard that my whole childhood, I'm owning it. So, before we get into the episode, I do have a couple of fuck ups that I would like to address for the fans.

[00:01:53] Now, some of these actually didn't even make it to air, but I'm gonna mention them anyway for the benefit of your knowledge.

[00:01:59] I believe it was in the first episode, I had said that the uniforms were made of wool in the original prop uniforms.

[00:02:06] Yeah.

[00:02:07] I think the sweater ones were, but these here were not. These were made out of velour fabric.

[00:02:13] Oh, really?

[00:02:14] However, Kirk's little wraparound green one was made of a wool fabric.

[00:02:18] Oh, okay.

[00:02:19] And then in the third season they were replaced with nylon.

[00:02:21] And again, this would have been the Sulu Botany episode.

[00:02:26] Harley X. You had said something about Yeoman Rand carrying a purse.

[00:02:31] Yeah.

[00:02:31] And I had no idea what you were talking about. So, I went back and watched that part of the episode.

[00:02:36] It's not a purse she's carrying. It's a tricorder.

[00:02:38] It's very purse-like in its appearance.

[00:02:40] They are. And they are. That's why I didn't even think twice about it.

[00:02:43] I didn't even notice it because Yeoman Rand is, as far as usually, carrying a tricorder when she's on duty.

[00:02:50] Maybe it's to access information the captain might need.

[00:02:52] What's a tricorder?

[00:02:55] It's essentially like a science scanning device.

[00:02:59] So, kind of like a tablet or like a...

[00:03:02] I don't know what those are.

[00:03:03] It's more like a...

[00:03:04] It's actually closer to a Pokedex.

[00:03:07] But for...

[00:03:07] Oh, okay. Okay. That's an easy enough reference point.

[00:03:09] But it can scan as well. Yeah.

[00:03:11] So, it's a thing that does science all round in one.

[00:03:16] A lot of that happened in this episode.

[00:03:18] So, another thing that I said was...

[00:03:20] I couldn't remember.

[00:03:21] So, I had assumed that I remembered that Dr. McCoy was born in Kentucky.

[00:03:26] I was close.

[00:03:28] Not really. He is from the South.

[00:03:30] But Dr. McCoy was actually born in Atlanta, Georgia.

[00:03:33] And then one other thing.

[00:03:34] When we were talking about the buffalo during the man trap,

[00:03:38] and I'd mentioned the American alligator,

[00:03:40] I was a little off on my timeline.

[00:03:42] So, the American alligator was taken off the endangered species list in 1987.

[00:03:47] Really?

[00:03:48] But if you recall, you remember me saying that I remember reading about the alligator being on the endangered species list.

[00:03:54] Well, I looked all that up, and I'm fairly certain the reason I had read that was because the things I was reading were older than 1987.

[00:04:03] Oh!

[00:04:04] Which would make sense.

[00:04:04] That makes sense.

[00:04:05] Yeah, that makes sense.

[00:04:06] And there might have been some...

[00:04:07] I mean, I was in elementary school, so it's only a few years removed.

[00:04:11] Like, seven or eight years removed from them being removed from the endangered species list.

[00:04:16] So...

[00:04:17] Yeah.

[00:04:17] I mean, yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that where it's just not updated knowledge.

[00:04:21] Yeah.

[00:04:21] And for all I can remember, I mean, I was young.

[00:04:24] Maybe, you know, maybe I...

[00:04:28] Maybe they had said something in the past tense, but I didn't remember it being in the past tense.

[00:04:32] So, something like that.

[00:04:33] But those were the...

[00:04:34] And you'll find if you watch any of our other podcasts, I always have segments called What Did We Fuck Up?

[00:04:39] And that is the first What Did We Fuck Up for the Final Frontier, but...

[00:04:44] I always correct my mistakes if I can.

[00:04:46] If I get fact...

[00:04:47] If I see when I get fact checked in comments.

[00:04:50] I will verify before I admit being wrong.

[00:04:54] But if I'm wrong, I will admit to being wrong.

[00:04:56] And the funny thing is we're recording this one before we have any comments, so...

[00:05:01] That is true.

[00:05:02] I'm sure we'll be brought to task on a few more things and we shall address them.

[00:05:06] But we didn't fuck up near as bad as the Enterprise crew does in this episode.

[00:05:10] Okay.

[00:05:11] First note, obviously, gotta get my note on the Paramount Plus description, which obviously details an evil Kirk.

[00:05:19] And my first note is just, I'm sorry, evil Kirk?

[00:05:22] Hell yeah.

[00:05:23] How evil could evil Kirk possibly be?

[00:05:26] Very evil.

[00:05:28] Well, I don't know.

[00:05:29] I don't know.

[00:05:29] I question exactly how evil.

[00:05:33] Well, and it's funny you mention that because I have a note much later in the episode that I actually don't really agree with calling it good and evil Kirk.

[00:05:40] Because there's, believe it or not, for a 1960 show, there's a bit more nuance than that.

[00:05:45] We are, of course, talking about Season 1, Episode 6, The Enemy Within.

[00:05:50] Star date for this episode, 1672.1 all the way through to 1673.1, which I would imagine, again, I still don't understand how star dates work, but I'm assuming that's a day?

[00:06:01] It seems like at least a day, based upon just the events of...

[00:06:05] Can I think there's a sleep?

[00:06:08] There's a sleep that happens.

[00:06:09] They go to bed, I think.

[00:06:11] Certainly you see Kirk's room in this episode a bunch.

[00:06:13] Yeah, but I think he's just taking a nap.

[00:06:15] I'm not really sure.

[00:06:16] But anyhow, what would you call the proper year date in this episode is 2266 and the original air date was October 6th, 1966.

[00:06:24] This episode was written by Richard Matheson and directed by Leo Penn.

[00:06:29] And if you think that sounds familiar, you would be correct because Leo Penn is the father of Sean and Chris Penn.

[00:06:35] Oh, no kidding.

[00:06:37] He did a good job directing this.

[00:06:39] I got some notes about Kirk doubles later on that I was quite impressed by.

[00:06:43] You know, what's funny is a lot of people make fun of this.

[00:06:46] It's one of my favorite episodes, actually, even since I was young.

[00:06:49] I really liked it.

[00:06:51] But a lot of people make fun of Bill Shatner in particular, and I'm watching it and I'm like, no, this considering that he's playing two versions of the same person.

[00:07:00] Yeah, it's I mean, but actually quite good.

[00:07:03] I will say it does get silly, but I mean, at this point, I think I've established I love me some silly.

[00:07:10] So I was all for it.

[00:07:11] And again, it's like this wouldn't this wouldn't fly today.

[00:07:16] But that's because today we've gone through the emo phase where everybody's like if they're evil, they're just like I'm very introspective.

[00:07:22] Yeah, I mean, that's that was that's my overall thing with this episode was I wanted more from evil Kirk than I than I got.

[00:07:29] But we'll get we'll get to that later.

[00:07:31] There was eyeliner.

[00:07:32] There was some eyeliner.

[00:07:34] There was more than some eyeliner.

[00:07:36] So there's some there's some shots of the Enterprise from the outside that don't look CGI replaced in this episode.

[00:07:42] They look like actual models.

[00:07:44] I have a note on that.

[00:07:45] It's it's very funny.

[00:07:47] Yeah, it's funny how the more we do this, the more we pick up on the same things.

[00:07:51] I mean, I also have a weird eye for it.

[00:07:53] Jordan says I have a weird eye for that kind of stuff.

[00:07:55] Well, and I actually I'm going to I'm going to give you major kudos because I love the fact that you keep bringing and I keep forgetting to do it.

[00:08:02] But you keep bringing back the Paramount plus synopsis for each episode.

[00:08:06] Of course, it's going to be right.

[00:08:08] I love me.

[00:08:08] I love me a running gag.

[00:08:10] So I love it.

[00:08:10] I love it.

[00:08:11] Before we actually get into the story of the episode, Matheson, Richard Matheson, also wrote Nightmare at 20,000 Feet, which we've talked about before.

[00:08:19] It's the famous Twilight Zone sketch segment, whatever you may call it with something on the plane.

[00:08:25] There's something on the wing on the plane.

[00:08:27] There's something on the wing.

[00:08:29] Oh, interesting.

[00:08:30] You wrote this.

[00:08:30] Was it in the movie, though?

[00:08:31] Or did they do?

[00:08:32] I think two versions of it.

[00:08:34] There might be two.

[00:08:34] I always thought that the Will Shatner one was in the series.

[00:08:37] That's what I'd always thought he was in the movie, but I could be maybe he does both.

[00:08:41] And also, I would like to apologize to our viewers.

[00:08:44] There were a couple of previous episodes.

[00:08:47] I think two of them were for whatever reason, my mic settings were all a muck.

[00:08:53] I tried to clean it up as best I could, but it still sounds kind of from like you can understand what I'm saying.

[00:09:01] It just sounds really, really bad.

[00:09:03] So I apologize.

[00:09:04] But as far as I'm aware, the issue has been fixed.

[00:09:07] So this should be nice and clean.

[00:09:08] And Justin always sounds fun.

[00:09:09] So I mean, I mean, OK, good, because I'm super paranoid about my audio.

[00:09:14] It's like the one thing I care about.

[00:09:16] Thankfully, we've never had to scrap a recording yet.

[00:09:19] So knock on knock on wood.

[00:09:22] Yeah, we're doing good so far.

[00:09:23] But anyway, our episode begins with the USS Enterprise on a geological exploration of the planet Alpha 177.

[00:09:30] Geological technician Fisher falls off a cliffside, suffers an injury and is covered in a mysterious yellow powder.

[00:09:37] He's transported back aboard the Enterprise, but chief engineer Scott has some trouble with the transporter.

[00:09:43] The transporter equipment appears to be fine, but he notices the dust covering Fisher's uniform that may have interfered with the transport.

[00:09:50] It interfered with the transport.

[00:09:51] Yeah, well, I'm OK.

[00:09:52] I just realized as you were describing that they never say what the dust is or how it affected the transporter, do they?

[00:09:58] They don't say how.

[00:09:59] But so, OK, a couple couple notes.

[00:10:01] First of all, if you did, you notice the random ass canopy they had down on the planet?

[00:10:06] No, I was so distracted by the dog in the little costume.

[00:10:10] Oh, the alpha spaniel?

[00:10:12] Is that what that I my my obviously my note is what sort of creature is that?

[00:10:16] I thought it was a puppet.

[00:10:17] I started to type up the note.

[00:10:19] That's a sweet looking puppet until until Kirk tried to pet it.

[00:10:23] And it clearly the dog wasn't trained all that well.

[00:10:25] And it like nipped up at him.

[00:10:27] That was there was a lot of like this is free.

[00:10:31] Quick aside, you know, the you know, the movie that caused like, you know, that little message at the end of the movies that say,

[00:10:36] no animals will harm the making of this movie.

[00:10:38] You know, the movie that's the reason for that.

[00:10:40] Yeah, this is before that.

[00:10:42] Oh, I feel like I know this, but I'm blanking.

[00:10:45] What was the movie?

[00:10:46] Milo and Otis.

[00:10:47] Um, no, that wasn't the American.

[00:10:49] That was a Japanese movie.

[00:10:52] Yeah, but I had heard that that was the reason that was the part of the infritus of how many animals died during it.

[00:10:58] No.

[00:10:58] So actually, um, these regulations existed prior to that movie.

[00:11:03] And interesting.

[00:11:04] I didn't know that allegations made.

[00:11:06] And here's the thing, though, because I know what you're talking about.

[00:11:10] I'm pretty sure some animals died just because.

[00:11:13] Oh, yeah, for sure.

[00:11:14] I've seen I've seen clips of that from that movie.

[00:11:16] Yeah.

[00:11:17] However, they did an investigation and they claimed they could find no actual evidence.

[00:11:22] Well, yeah, because they didn't keep a hold of the animals that yeah.

[00:11:26] Um, but I just I'm going to skip ahead because I have a note on that.

[00:11:31] Um, where is it?

[00:11:32] This gave that this is before that era of I.

[00:11:35] That's the thing about watching old movies.

[00:11:37] You get that vibe every once in a while.

[00:11:38] This is before they made that rule by this episode gave me that vibe.

[00:11:42] Oh, no.

[00:11:42] So the dog like creature, the first Sulu and later Kirk hold was given a sedative about an hour before those scenes were filmed.

[00:11:48] The aggressive version was obtained by starving it for 24 hours, then prodding it with a stick to get the reaction.

[00:11:56] Now, it does say such treatment of animals in Hollywood would be banned several years later after concerns from cast and crew within the industry led to pressure on the studios, which eventually agreed to involve the American Humane Association in productions where real animals were involved.

[00:12:11] Yeah, that this episode gave me especially with the I mean, you have to jump in the episodes where it's where it's mad.

[00:12:16] It gave me that like they're they're poking this dog with a stick kind of vibe.

[00:12:20] So that doesn't surprise me to hear that.

[00:12:21] I really have zero tolerance for animal cruelty, but I will say animals were treated like shit in many, many productions in Hollywood prior to those regulations.

[00:12:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:12:34] So this is fairly light.

[00:12:36] But I mean, they did drug a dog and poke it with a stick after starving it.

[00:12:40] So, yeah.

[00:12:41] Yeah.

[00:12:42] Any amount of mistreating an animal makes me unhappy.

[00:12:45] But like you're right on the let me still dance with that line to this day, in my opinion.

[00:12:51] So like this is on the like there's a worse incident on like that movie, a dog's purpose that was way worse than maybe giving it some sedatives.

[00:12:59] Yeah. So but I guess as far as animal cruelty goes, this gets a finger wag from me.

[00:13:05] Yeah, I could say no, don't do that again.

[00:13:07] Not so much of fuck you.

[00:13:09] I hope you all die sort of.

[00:13:11] Yeah, but I just I really did look dopey, though.

[00:13:14] Like I thought I legit I thought it was like it was a hand puppet that that Sulu was carrying for like for most of that for opening scene.

[00:13:20] I have a couple notes about the the transporter effect.

[00:13:24] That looks good for 1960.

[00:13:25] If that is indeed the original effect.

[00:13:27] I was I was pretty impressed with that.

[00:13:29] It appears to be because it didn't seem glaringly different to me.

[00:13:33] No, just a question about 1960 slang.

[00:13:36] What is he acted like a burnout?

[00:13:38] Me a burnout would be somebody who like smokes weed, basically.

[00:13:44] And that thing that's like a it just seems like an odd slang for like Star Trek.

[00:13:49] I don't know why it just stuck out to me.

[00:13:51] Wait, when did he did somebody in the script use burnout?

[00:13:55] Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:55] When when Spock is examining the guy who has the fitting the name, facing on the name, the guy who gets the powder when he first Fisher, when he's scanning him, he pats him on the shoulder.

[00:14:05] He says, go get out of that.

[00:14:06] You don't don't go decontaminate that uniform.

[00:14:09] And then he makes a comment to himself and he says, oh, he acted like a burnout.

[00:14:13] I didn't think I don't think I heard that.

[00:14:16] And I and I was like, does that mean that's like the burnout, like hippie burnout?

[00:14:19] And I'm like, that feels decidedly not very Star Trek.

[00:14:22] Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:14:24] No. OK, so he's not referring to Fisher.

[00:14:26] He's referring to Scotty is talking about the transporter.

[00:14:30] Oh, OK.

[00:14:31] OK, they said it.

[00:14:32] That's why I made this note.

[00:14:34] It could have been a burnout.

[00:14:35] I acted like a burnout.

[00:14:37] Oh, OK, OK.

[00:14:39] OK, so I was going to say, I don't know that burnout existed yet.

[00:14:43] I was going to say, because I'm like in the 60s.

[00:14:46] Is this a common slang?

[00:14:47] He's talking about the burnout in the transporter.

[00:14:50] It's a burnout in the circus, a circus, a circus, a circus, true to many Star Trek landing parties.

[00:14:55] There's just random shit that makes no sense.

[00:14:57] Like on their geological expedition of a planet, they've got this tiny canopy set up that is accomplishing nothing because it's blowing in the it's blowing in the wind.

[00:15:06] It's about to fall over.

[00:15:07] It's not covering any button like at all.

[00:15:10] I mean, they seem here.

[00:15:12] They seem suitably ill prepared to go to a planet that apparently gets as cold as it does at night.

[00:15:18] Yeah, you would.

[00:15:20] And then did we not learn our lesson about alien substances from the previous episode?

[00:15:25] I mean, there's a lot of learning lessons in this episode, I find.

[00:15:28] Now, somebody in the comments is going to point out that chronologically this episode takes place first and you would be correct.

[00:15:34] It does.

[00:15:35] But then I would say for the Naked Time episode, did we not learn our lesson about alien substances from this episode?

[00:15:44] From this experience, it's still lessens worse.

[00:15:47] It's still inexcusable.

[00:15:48] Decontamination on the original Enterprise is subpar.

[00:15:52] Ocean needs to be called in.

[00:15:53] This is two episodes in a row.

[00:15:56] Two episodes in a row.

[00:15:58] You're not wrong.

[00:15:59] You're not.

[00:15:59] You're not.

[00:16:00] I'm not wrong.

[00:16:01] Decontamination protocol is after they transport back onto the ship.

[00:16:05] Then check them out.

[00:16:06] This makes no sense whatsoever.

[00:16:08] At least in Star Trek, at least in Star Trek Enterprise, they decontaminate before they get off the shuttle into the shuttle bay and there's a decontamination room right there.

[00:16:17] That makes more sense.

[00:16:18] Back on the ship.

[00:16:19] That makes far more sense.

[00:16:20] Yeah.

[00:16:21] Which honestly, the decontamination room in Star Trek Enterprise was just used to add some sex.

[00:16:26] Of course.

[00:16:27] Not actual, not actual sex.

[00:16:29] But see, they have to like get down to their skivvies and rub this gel on themselves to decontaminate.

[00:16:34] So, of course, the first chance they get, they get to Paul half naked and they're like, of course, rub gel on her back.

[00:16:40] It's I mean, and to be fair, I know when that show came out.

[00:16:43] So it's very much of that era.

[00:16:45] It is.

[00:16:46] Yeah.

[00:16:46] It's like now.

[00:16:47] Now, when I think about it, I'm always going to imagine Deadpool being like, get out your special sock nerds.

[00:16:51] It's gonna get good.

[00:16:52] Yeah.

[00:16:52] So clearly the Enterprise suffers from short term memory loss, all of them.

[00:16:57] And keep in mind, as we continue the story, keep in mind that Scotty has just acknowledged that there's probably something wrong with the transporter.

[00:17:03] So just keep that in mind.

[00:17:05] Yeah.

[00:17:05] Yeah.

[00:17:05] It's just a lot of like, they figure out the problem and then forget the problem, like a

[00:17:10] lot or figure out, forget, realize the problem and then forget the solution.

[00:17:14] Just like a ton.

[00:17:15] I have a lot of notes about it.

[00:17:16] We're going to get into it.

[00:17:17] Yeah.

[00:17:18] But Scott, Scott, at this point in the story, Scotty has literally said, I'm acting like I'm

[00:17:22] burnout.

[00:17:22] You know, something must be wrong with the transporter.

[00:17:24] And then Captain Kirk transports back to the ship.

[00:17:27] The transporter appears to work correctly, but Kirk experiences some disorientation and

[00:17:31] Scotty escorts Kirk to the out of the transporter room.

[00:17:34] While unsupervised, the transporter activates a second time materializing a second version

[00:17:39] of Kirk, which behaves more maliciously than his counterpart.

[00:17:42] This evil Kirk begins to wander the ship and those he encounters are confused by his behavior.

[00:17:47] I just, my first note is in case you had any doubt about which one was the evil one.

[00:17:52] I just need the immediate.

[00:17:53] Yeah.

[00:17:55] That close up on his face.

[00:17:57] Oh my God.

[00:17:58] I love close ups of this show.

[00:17:59] They're all amazing.

[00:18:00] And then I thought it.

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:04] The eyeliner, the Vaseline, because yes, they rub petroleum jelly on his face.

[00:18:09] He was evil.

[00:18:10] Kirk was very, I'm just going to skip ahead.

[00:18:13] Evil Kirk was very sweaty.

[00:18:15] Just to contrast that he was evil.

[00:18:17] He was so sweaty.

[00:18:18] This episode.

[00:18:19] I have a note that says more sweaty, Kirk.

[00:18:22] More sweaty, Kirk.

[00:18:23] He's so sweaty.

[00:18:24] So I initially thought that this was going to, they were going to do something to do with

[00:18:28] like this episode was going to kind of be about, you know, the idea of when you

[00:18:32] teleport, what, what gets left behind?

[00:18:35] Like, are you a clone?

[00:18:36] Are you a copy?

[00:18:37] Is it about like breaking you down?

[00:18:39] I thought it was maybe good.

[00:18:40] Explore that idea.

[00:18:41] It turns out I was very wrong.

[00:18:42] It was more about the idea of morality, but, and then it's Dr.

[00:18:46] Jacqueline, Mr.

[00:18:47] Hyde.

[00:18:48] And then my next note is evil.

[00:18:49] Evil.

[00:18:49] Kirk needs a little drinky drinky.

[00:18:51] He does.

[00:18:52] He's thirsty again.

[00:18:54] Scotty.

[00:18:54] Would you not double check the transporter?

[00:18:57] If you, if you think there might even possibly remotely be an issue with the transporter,

[00:19:01] would you not check that out before binging, beaming up the captain?

[00:19:04] I mean, at the very least tested on a red shirt.

[00:19:08] I mean, you know, I, I mean, okay.

[00:19:10] To be fair to you.

[00:19:12] Okay.

[00:19:12] I don't want to, once they figure out what the problem is, there's a lot of like really

[00:19:17] dumb moves that are happening in this episode.

[00:19:19] Like I, and you're right.

[00:19:21] It's like, you know, something's up with this.

[00:19:23] Like, you know, it does something hinky.

[00:19:25] Something's not right.

[00:19:26] Like red flags.

[00:19:28] There's not enough red flags.

[00:19:29] They don't recognize red flags fast enough.

[00:19:31] I think.

[00:19:32] Well, once again, Dr.

[00:19:33] McCoy is proven right because he's McCoy throughout this series and throughout the movies

[00:19:37] is always wary of the transporter.

[00:19:39] He prefers not to use it.

[00:19:41] If it can be avoided, obviously he does because you know, yeah, he has to speed.

[00:19:47] I get it.

[00:19:48] I get it.

[00:19:48] I also laughed at the fact that Scotty disobeys a direct order for plot convenience because

[00:19:52] he has to not be in the transporter room, which Kirk looks him in the face and orders

[00:19:57] him to not leave the transporter room unattended.

[00:19:59] And he's like, I'll only be gone for a moment, Captain.

[00:20:02] And then in that moment, evil Kirk, which again, if Scotty had followed orders, he would

[00:20:07] have seen evil Kirk materialism and like, holy shit.

[00:20:09] There's another captain, Captain.

[00:20:11] You know?

[00:20:11] Like I, yeah, I have so many notes about, about evil Kirk.

[00:20:15] I mean, the number one is I have no idea what Shatner was going for with evil Kirk.

[00:20:19] Just, just generally.

[00:20:21] I don't know what the vibe was supposed to be.

[00:20:23] He does some concerning stuff as evil.

[00:20:25] Like really?

[00:20:26] That's your aid, man.

[00:20:27] Really?

[00:20:28] I mean, yeah, that's self-evaluate.

[00:20:30] No, no, no, no, no.

[00:20:31] See?

[00:20:31] Okay.

[00:20:32] So here's the thing.

[00:20:33] Like that's, that's the pure id unchecked by the ego or the super ego.

[00:20:38] So I, I, I get it.

[00:20:40] Cause that that's animal impulses at its, at its very core, a modicum of intelligence, because

[00:20:45] he can still speak and he can still think, but he's basically operating off of drives.

[00:20:50] As we see, he goes for liquor.

[00:20:52] He tries to, you know, you know, I was like, man, this is, this is dark for the 1960s.

[00:21:00] That scene in particular.

[00:21:01] I was like, I was impressed.

[00:21:02] I was impressed in the sense that I I'm, I'm surprised they got away with this.

[00:21:06] It gets worse.

[00:21:07] Um, but before we get to that fun fact about Kirk's alternative green uniform, while chronologically,

[00:21:12] this is not the first time we see it.

[00:21:14] This was the first episode that they shot with it.

[00:21:17] And the only reason that green uniform exists is so the audience could tell the difference

[00:21:21] between good Kirk and evil Kirk.

[00:21:22] Oh, he's literally good.

[00:21:23] I literally have a note about that later.

[00:21:25] And, and I said, there's a lot of like, he's wearing a different shirt.

[00:21:29] He should just point out the fact that he's wearing a different shirt.

[00:21:32] And it's, it's very definitely to help William Shatner keep track of his own continuity.

[00:21:37] I guarantee you, which they fail to do in Charlie X, because he changes clothes spontaneously

[00:21:41] between these two outfits.

[00:21:44] I was going to say more just so he would remember which version of the character he

[00:21:48] was because I just, I get that feeling.

[00:21:50] Shit.

[00:21:50] Am I the evil version of the good version in this scene?

[00:21:53] And it's funny cause not to jump ahead, but they don't really, they, they do clearly

[00:21:58] realize that in the, in the, at the end of the episode, because there's a moment where

[00:22:01] they're wearing the same clothes.

[00:22:02] Like clearly someone at the end of the production week was like, Oh no, they're wearing different

[00:22:07] clothes.

[00:22:08] Feel feels like they figured this out much earlier.

[00:22:11] Wouldn't it?

[00:22:12] Yeah.

[00:22:13] Um, and then the other note I have is Brandy and sick bay.

[00:22:16] This really is the 1960s.

[00:22:18] Right.

[00:22:19] He's just got a bottle of Saurium brandy just right there with the Medicaid.

[00:22:23] Like there's a liquor cabinet in the sick.

[00:22:26] It'll cure what else.

[00:22:27] Yeah.

[00:22:27] It will cure what else.

[00:22:28] Yeah.

[00:22:29] I mean, to be fair, alcohol is for, for some things I've actually heard that.

[00:22:34] I don't know this from experience, but I know someone told me this.

[00:22:37] Apparently one of the best things you can do if you have like a urinary tract infection

[00:22:40] is drink a beer parent.

[00:22:42] Really?

[00:22:42] I don't know if that's true.

[00:22:44] The person who told me this was not a doctor, but I'll be honest.

[00:22:47] I, I, I believe her.

[00:22:48] I mean, Oh, dark joke.

[00:22:51] It was the person who said this an alcoholic because then I would maybe, you know, no,

[00:22:58] no.

[00:22:58] Oh, okay.

[00:22:58] Fair enough.

[00:22:59] Fair enough.

[00:22:59] I remember, I remember now cause this was many, many years ago, but apparently she got

[00:23:03] one.

[00:23:03] Her, her aunt was a nurse and told her that.

[00:23:06] I mean, to be fair beer, I could believe because beer is just like bread water.

[00:23:10] Yeah.

[00:23:11] That's yeah.

[00:23:11] So, I mean, like she said that and I'm like, I, if you were like a fifth of vodka every

[00:23:16] day, I'd be like, well, okay.

[00:23:18] Um, Oh, and she, she didn't even drink.

[00:23:20] So that was like a, she was like, yeah, I prescribe you one beer.

[00:23:25] Yeah.

[00:23:26] I could do that.

[00:23:27] Yeah.

[00:23:27] See, that's another, wasn't expecting to see a full bore sexual assault on Star Trek.

[00:23:31] It is kind of a tense scene.

[00:23:33] Scotty assists in beaming a dog-like animal.

[00:23:35] There's the alpha spaniel, uh, from the planet, but two identical creatures materialize a good

[00:23:40] and an evil one, just like Kirk.

[00:23:42] One.

[00:23:42] Yeah.

[00:23:43] I was surprised how quickly they, they, they, they like they figured it out.

[00:23:46] Like, like, wow, 10 minutes in and they already know about the evil good thing.

[00:23:49] Interesting.

[00:23:50] Just not with Kirk.

[00:23:51] Scotty reports this to Mr.

[00:23:52] Spock and then orders the transporter taken out of service to investigate stranding the landing

[00:23:57] party on the planet.

[00:23:58] As the bitterly cold night sets in the subplot of the stranded crew members on the

[00:24:03] down on the planet.

[00:24:04] Wasn't in the original script.

[00:24:05] It was added by the staff writers, but here's the thing.

[00:24:09] Um, Richard Matheson hated this part.

[00:24:11] I actually really liked it because it adds stakes and it adds tension.

[00:24:16] That's so funny.

[00:24:17] I agree.

[00:24:18] I agree with Richard Matheson.

[00:24:19] I felt that, uh, I felt that it kind of, it didn't need it.

[00:24:22] The, the tension between the evil and good Kirk is enough.

[00:24:25] It just was an extra layer of, of, of, I, I, I, I like it because obviously we've established,

[00:24:31] I love me some Sulu and he does some, he does some great one-liners.

[00:24:34] So I wouldn't cut it for that, for that reason alone.

[00:24:38] But like in terms of it's what it adds to the story.

[00:24:40] I do agree.

[00:24:41] It definitely didn't need it.

[00:24:43] See, I disagree because I, it, it adds a ticking clock.

[00:24:46] I don't think this is a need necessarily needed a ticking clock.

[00:24:50] That's why I disagree.

[00:24:51] It does.

[00:24:51] And I'll explain why, because if there wasn't a ticking clock, the solution is simple.

[00:24:56] You capture evil Kirk, keep him sedated until you figure out what's going on.

[00:25:01] There's no tension.

[00:25:02] There's no, like there's tension as long as you're still hunting for evil Kirk.

[00:25:06] But sure.

[00:25:07] But also evil Kirk, he gets strapped to the bed and just disappears for a solid chunk of this episode.

[00:25:12] And then just becomes about good Kirk being indecisive.

[00:25:14] So, right.

[00:25:16] I indecisive because there's a ticking clock.

[00:25:18] But that's where my, my overall issue with this episode generally is I wish it, I wish it was more of a mystery or, or they spent more time having evil Kirk go evil.

[00:25:29] Have him being way more good up.

[00:25:31] Like don't immediately be like, well, ha mustache twirly out the, do the, do the really funny closeup.

[00:25:35] That's funny.

[00:25:36] But I think as a character, um, evil Kirk didn't get enough for me.

[00:25:40] Like I, if enough for me to, for him to do his really like big monologue at the end of the episode, we're like, I don't want to go back.

[00:25:47] Well, it's like, but you've been strapped to a bed for most of the episodes.

[00:25:50] I just don't really get why.

[00:25:52] Yeah.

[00:25:52] I, so if, if they went that direction, I would agree with you that you didn't need the landing party.

[00:25:57] But to me, that's what the ticking clock adds tension.

[00:26:00] I don't disagree with that.

[00:26:01] I just didn't feel it needed the tension.

[00:26:03] I don't, I don't disagree.

[00:26:04] There is a massive plot hole though.

[00:26:07] And it's the fact that why didn't they just send down a shuttle craft?

[00:26:10] That's fair.

[00:26:11] Well, I mean, I guess you're right because that does lead to one of my other notes, which is like in terms of the evil Kirk disappearing and I'm not being able to find him.

[00:26:18] How big is the enterprise?

[00:26:19] Like in terms of like the interior of it, because there's something that it's quite large.

[00:26:24] Like that's something that's possible.

[00:26:25] Like a guy could just disappear in there.

[00:26:27] Okay.

[00:26:27] Fair enough.

[00:26:28] So they, they established in one of the early episodes, there's 240 some odd crew members and you got to remember there the bridge, which is one of the smallest rooms on the starship.

[00:26:38] Um, you've got all the areas that people work and then housing for 200 some odd people.

[00:26:43] Plus the bulk of the ship is actually all engineering and bulkheads and duct work.

[00:26:47] So interesting.

[00:26:49] Okay.

[00:26:49] You know, you know, it's quite large.

[00:26:51] It's, it's, it's pretty big.

[00:26:53] So I already said, why didn't they just send a shuttle craft?

[00:26:55] Now I know the real answer to this is because, um, the shuttle craft hadn't been established in Star Trek yet, but just using a Spock would say being logical.

[00:27:04] If you have a ship in space that goes on planetary explorations, even if you have transporter technology, transporter technology may break.

[00:27:13] You'd have a backup, a lifeboat as it were.

[00:27:15] Yeah.

[00:27:15] Yeah, exactly.

[00:27:16] You would need, or at the very least an escape pod of some kind, but I mean, yeah, and they do establish the enterprise has a few shuttle craft in it later in the series.

[00:27:24] So.

[00:27:25] Yeah.

[00:27:25] You'd have an emergency backup.

[00:27:27] Certainly if you're like, as not, not militarized, but like organized, I guess, as this, as this, I, they haven't established to day, at least as far as I can tell who we work for quite yet.

[00:27:36] We've kind of our vague starship.

[00:27:39] So yeah, presumably they have emergency protocols.

[00:27:41] You're right.

[00:27:42] Yeah.

[00:27:43] So, and then the other thing to what somebody might say is like, oh, well maybe, you know, it's just not equipped with it yet.

[00:27:51] That seems like really poor planning, especially when you consider the fact that again, Star Trek enterprise establishes that shuttle craft were used prior to the transporters invention.

[00:28:01] Yeah.

[00:28:02] So it's a technology that would have been considered old by now.

[00:28:06] But yeah, still, you would still have it around kind of like how, you know, I mean, before they had the airplane, they had the automobile and people still travel by automobile.

[00:28:15] I mean, train before train was the train you had ships and before, you know, these, well, the one thing, people still ride horses for fuck's sake.

[00:28:24] Like the one that, the one that got me was like, and I even, I even this kind of blew my mind was the Titanic.

[00:28:30] Like the, the movie kind of gives the impression that it's a cruise ship, like our understanding of cruise ship, but it's an ocean ladder and which they were, they existed before airplanes.

[00:28:39] Like that's how you, that's what you've got cross content.

[00:28:42] It was, you went on these, that's why there was all these poor people on it was because that's what it was.

[00:28:46] It was just a cross content.

[00:28:47] And I had no idea.

[00:28:48] Like I did.

[00:28:48] Oh yeah.

[00:28:49] Right.

[00:28:49] There's a before airplanes.

[00:28:50] Right.

[00:28:51] That makes sense.

[00:28:52] Duh.

[00:28:53] Precisely.

[00:28:54] And now, which again, after the airplanes invented for mass travel, the cruise liner, as we know it today is invented because people still want to pay for the experience, but if they just need to get somewhere, it's much more cost effective to do by plane or automobile.

[00:29:09] I looked it up and they take the cruise lines as, as like, this is the Titanic, like still kind of exists.

[00:29:15] But like the last one was basically, it's mostly just a tourist thing.

[00:29:18] The last one was decommissioned like eons ago.

[00:29:20] So elsewhere on the ship, the good Kirk begins to feel uncertain and struggles to make decisions.

[00:29:26] The evil Kirk in a drunken state, which boy, he got hammered fast assaults.

[00:29:31] I mean, ran.

[00:29:32] He's chugging what brandy from a bottle of street from a bottle.

[00:29:35] I mean, that's true.

[00:29:37] I thought weak shit in his drunken state.

[00:29:39] He assaults Yeoman ran in her quarters.

[00:29:41] During the struggle, she scratches evil Kirk's face with her fingernails.

[00:29:45] When Fisher witnesses this and calls security, the evil Kirk attacks and knocks him out.

[00:29:50] Ran reports the incident to the bridge.

[00:29:53] Um, yeah, this was significantly worse than I remembered it because I remembered that there's a struggle.

[00:29:59] It's pretty brutal.

[00:30:01] It's and unfortunately, behind the scenes, it's even worse.

[00:30:04] I almost didn't include this note, but I knew someone would bring it up and I feel like I, I have to address it because it's there and I know about it.

[00:30:14] So, according to Grace Lee Whitney, the actress who plays Janice Rand while shooting the scene when the distraughtful tearful Janice is, uh, recounting what happened to her to Spock McCoy and Goodkirk, William Shatner slapped her across the face to get her to register proper emotion.

[00:30:34] Since they shot, uh, the attempted race scene days earlier, Whitney apparently couldn't get into the same emotional space successfully.

[00:30:43] And it was Shatner's solution to the problem.

[00:30:47] I mean, my, I mean, my note for that, that subsequent bit is yeah, is that Kirk is why I say kind of, I'm more inclined to say just straight up gaslight, sir, being like, being like, I didn't do this.

[00:30:58] Well, not, not really, because that Kirk didn't do it.

[00:31:02] Sure, but like, he's trying to be like, everyone's like, yeah, you have a version of you. I guess it all goes to my point of like, they, they see it seems to take them a real long time to put two and two together and be like, there's two dogs, therefore two Kirk's.

[00:31:17] There's actually a reason for this. Um, so my other note is you've already addressed it. It's taken everyone far too long to realize what's going on.

[00:31:25] Right. Um, but there's like, he's like, well, he's like, he's like, you didn't see me assault you. And she's like, no, but I, I didn't know.

[00:31:31] He didn't see a, you assault me instead of like standing up for herself and be like, no, you did this. Uh, and then the, the, the scratch being an identifier.

[00:31:40] That's where I started laughing. Cause it was like, he, again, I'm bringing to bring it up again. He's wearing a different shirt.

[00:31:47] Like he's very noticeably different looking, but I noticed this, uh, my editor brain picked up on this immediately.

[00:31:54] And sure enough, I was like, this is wrong. This is a mistake. So apparently in the original script, this scene and the scene where Scotty shows them the two dogs reversed.

[00:32:06] So this, okay. That makes sense. Makes so much more sense. Yes. So this scene where Rand reports it happens prior to Scotty showing them the two dogs in the original script.

[00:32:19] For some reason in the editing room, they decided that makes much more sense. I'm going to read my note because it's actually, I think it tells why, uh, the scene where Scotty revealing two animals should have been moved to after the scene with the senior officers and ran.

[00:32:33] And the fact is as the episode is edited, Kirk Spock and McCoy don't immediately come to the conclusion that there was an evil Kirk duplicate after Rand story.

[00:32:42] And after Scotty showing them two alpha spaniels makes them look like morons.

[00:32:47] Originally these scenes were switched in the script.

[00:32:49] It does. It makes it look very dumb. Yeah.

[00:32:51] It makes them look like particularly Spock, but they all, so this kind of reminds me, um, I'm not, I don't really know why I started.

[00:33:00] And I, I haven't picked it up yet. Cause I was a big Yu-Gi-Oh fan when I was a kid, when it first came out and I saw that it was on Netflix.

[00:33:06] I'm like, Oh cool. I'm going to revisit this. Oh my God.

[00:33:12] These kids are fucking stupid. They're all dumb. They're all morons.

[00:33:17] Even the smart ones are fucking dumb because it's like they're figuring out how to play this game.

[00:33:24] As they're playing this game, they should all be obliterated, but all the really good players are stupid.

[00:33:30] They're all morons.

[00:33:31] I mean, to be fair, everyone cheats in that, in that show.

[00:33:34] So I mean, yeah, it's true. But, and then I realized it's like, Oh, now I can't speak to the original Japanese dub.

[00:33:39] Cause I haven't watched it. I assume everyone's at least a little bit smarter.

[00:33:42] Cause that tends to be the case, but the four kids dub is really dumbing this down for children.

[00:33:48] Yeah. There's a, there's a, there's three or four episodes of an uncut version, which is closer to the original Japanese, but still has the English force actors.

[00:33:56] That is apparently quite good. But I, I, I liked the four kids dubs. I did a quite a large video about them.

[00:34:02] I love them because they're dumb and they're terrible.

[00:34:05] Hey, what are you talking about?

[00:34:07] It's why I love them.

[00:34:07] There's a Japanese kid who sounds like he's from fucking Brooklyn.

[00:34:11] The funniest bit is there's a show on that network, which I talked about called fighting food ons.

[00:34:16] And there's a character on it called spaghet about it.

[00:34:19] And it's literally just Joey from that dub being like spaghet about it.

[00:34:25] Oh, it's great. It's great. It's great. There's, there's another character called fried ricer.

[00:34:28] It's exactly the kind of show you think it is.

[00:34:30] This reminds me of ultimate muscle. And now I'm just having like, if they made a lot of people, yeah, they did a live action Yu-Gi-Oh, but like a Hollywood version.

[00:34:37] Just kidding. If they'd done this at the right time, could have gotten Mark Wahlberg to play Joey.

[00:34:41] Yu-Gi, I don't even know how to play these cards. What the fuck are we doing?

[00:34:45] Do I play a monster? Do I play a trap? I don't know. I'm confused.

[00:34:50] My favorite thing about Joey in particular is if you play his deck in like actual Yu-Gi-Oh, his deck is terrible.

[00:34:56] It's so situationally good.

[00:34:58] Yeah, you will lose hardcore every time.

[00:35:01] Yu-Gi's deck is no better though.

[00:35:03] No, but no, it's not. I mean, a lot of Joey's cards rely inherently on luck.

[00:35:07] I mean, realistically, the only good deck that I can recall is Kaiba's just because it has three Blue Eyes White Dragons in it.

[00:35:15] I mean, the Dark Magician is a terrible card because it requires two sacrifices and it only gives you 2,500 attack points.

[00:35:21] Blue Eyes requires the same amount of sacrifices and it gives you 3,000. It's just an inherently better card.

[00:35:26] But not in the show.

[00:35:28] No, but in the show, he has a bunch of, it depends because eventually in the show, when that show initially came out, they didn't have any rules.

[00:35:36] So if you're watching the first season, they didn't have any rules yet.

[00:35:39] And it wasn't until the Battle City where they established, that's when they started using the actual game rules.

[00:35:44] Yeah.

[00:35:44] So.

[00:35:45] So I have to, I have to share with you two stories real quick.

[00:35:49] Well, one story and then one reference.

[00:35:50] I don't know.

[00:35:51] Did you watch DBZ Abridged?

[00:35:53] Of course.

[00:35:54] Okay.

[00:35:54] Okay.

[00:35:54] So are you familiar with the Cell Game shorts?

[00:35:57] Yes.

[00:35:58] Yes.

[00:35:58] Did you watch the Yu-Gi-Oh one?

[00:36:00] Of course I did.

[00:36:01] Oh my God.

[00:36:02] Actually, tournament illegal.

[00:36:04] Right here in the rulebook you gave me, Monster Reborn has been tournament illegal since 2004.

[00:36:09] Then I play Pot of Greed.

[00:36:11] Also bad.

[00:36:12] What?

[00:36:12] 2005.

[00:36:13] Then Brain Control.

[00:36:15] 2010.

[00:36:16] Slifer, the sky!

[00:36:17] Oh, come on.

[00:36:18] All cards are bad.

[00:36:19] F*** you!

[00:36:20] Yeah, I was really, I've, I've, I've been watching them talk about Dragon Ball GT, look

[00:36:26] aside.

[00:36:27] And, um, uh, Kaiser Neko drives me crazy because he intentionally mispronounces names.

[00:36:33] Like, like he, he knows, like, well, he, like he pronounces Goku, Goku, or like.

[00:36:37] Oh no, he does that.

[00:36:38] Okay.

[00:36:38] So this is a massive pet peeve of mine.

[00:36:41] Um, he's not mispronouncing them.

[00:36:44] He's pronouncing them in the Japanese way.

[00:36:47] But he knows his audience understands it in the other way.

[00:36:50] Drives me crazy.

[00:36:51] So here's, here's, here's the thing that happens that honestly really annoys me.

[00:36:56] It actually started annoying me during the Naruto English dub, which is pure trash.

[00:37:00] It's awful.

[00:37:01] The Naruto English dub is garbage.

[00:37:03] It's terrible acting.

[00:37:05] Everyone sounds the f***ing same.

[00:37:07] My biggest problem with it though, other than it just being horrendously bad and them hiring

[00:37:11] people who should not be voice actors, I'll, I'll say it because they can't act for

[00:37:16] shit is the fact that you have very American sounding people, which is fine because it's

[00:37:21] an English dub for North America.

[00:37:23] But when they say a Japanese name, they like adopt the correct Japanese pronunciation, but

[00:37:31] then go straight back to English enunciation.

[00:37:34] So you have, so except they don't do it all the time.

[00:37:38] They just, so particularly for Naruto and Sakura.

[00:37:43] So you see what I did there?

[00:37:45] I'm pronouncing it correctly, but with an English accent, like an American English accent.

[00:37:50] I'm not.

[00:37:51] So like a lot of times in the dub, they'll be like, Sakura is probably the worst one.

[00:37:55] Cause they're like, Sakura, what are you doing?

[00:37:57] And I'm just with them.

[00:38:01] Like with, with dragon, like right now they're right at the end with the shadow dragons.

[00:38:04] Right.

[00:38:05] So instead of just calling him Omega Shenron, he's calling them one star.

[00:38:08] And I'm like, you know, your audience watches the dub.

[00:38:11] Why are you doing this?

[00:38:12] It's just, it just makes you sound pretentious and obnoxious.

[00:38:14] That's, that's what it does.

[00:38:15] That's what it does.

[00:38:16] Honestly.

[00:38:16] And see, the thing is, it probably annoys me because for a very short period of time,

[00:38:19] I did that, but because I was trying to be accurate, but then I realized I sounded

[00:38:25] like a fucking douchebag.

[00:38:27] And I was like, no, you can still pronounce it properly, but without like changing your

[00:38:32] accent.

[00:38:33] So like the average American who's not familiar with these names would say something like

[00:38:38] Sakura, because that's how our inflection is.

[00:38:41] Yeah.

[00:38:42] But you can say Sakura.

[00:38:44] Yeah.

[00:38:44] And you're correct.

[00:38:46] You can say Naruto instead of Naruto.

[00:38:48] And you're correct, but you have to say Naruto.

[00:38:52] Yeah.

[00:38:52] Well, I mean, I did that fun.

[00:38:54] Like Ultraman, it's just fun to do.

[00:38:57] Ultraman.

[00:38:58] Yeah.

[00:38:58] Yeah.

[00:38:58] Yeah.

[00:39:00] I don't know.

[00:39:00] It's just a pet peeve of mine.

[00:39:02] And now I kind of want to watch Star Trek in Japanese because I think that would be

[00:39:05] fucking hilarious.

[00:39:17] It would be very good.

[00:39:28] Evil kaku.

[00:39:29] Evil kaku.

[00:39:30] I mean, I'm in my I want everything to be an anime phase.

[00:39:35] I mean, it wasn't animated in Japan, but there is a Star Trek animated series.

[00:39:40] I mean, yeah, I assume it's actually it's actually our next series after we have three

[00:39:44] seasons of the original series.

[00:39:46] And then immediately after that, we got two seasons of the animated series.

[00:39:50] Oh, no, I have to tell my story.

[00:39:52] So when I was a junior in high school, sophomore or junior in high school, I can't remember.

[00:39:56] I think I was a sophomore.

[00:39:57] But anyway, my group of friends and I got really into playing Magic the Gathering like

[00:40:01] hardcore.

[00:40:02] And for for a period there, almost every weekend, we would go to our buddy Aaron's house and

[00:40:08] we would literally just play Magic the Gathering all night.

[00:40:11] It was so much fun.

[00:40:12] But my friend actually Nick from the Goosebumps crew, this story is about him.

[00:40:16] So I'm going to throw you under the bus there, Nick.

[00:40:18] He's fine.

[00:40:19] This story is hilarious.

[00:40:20] I tell him it's one of my favorite stories to tell because he was so funny.

[00:40:23] So he's our friend Aaron was like a tournament ranked Magic player.

[00:40:27] He's very, very good.

[00:40:29] So even if we got close to beating him, we were very proud of this.

[00:40:33] But Nick was actually one turn away from being able to beat him.

[00:40:36] But he needed one card and he knew it was still in his deck.

[00:40:40] And he knew that if he pulled this one card, he would win.

[00:40:43] And there was nothing.

[00:40:44] Other cards.

[00:40:44] So he did.

[00:40:48] He takes the card.

[00:40:50] Big Yu-Gi-Oh style.

[00:40:51] After he says, he's like, I need this one card.

[00:40:53] And if I get this card, I'll win.

[00:40:55] I'll beat Aaron.

[00:40:55] So he puts his hand on his deck.

[00:40:58] Yu-Gi-Oh style pulls it up, holds it up in the air without looking.

[00:41:01] He goes, hard of the cards.

[00:41:02] Holds it out.

[00:41:03] Looks at it.

[00:41:04] Pauses for a minute and goes, fuck you, hard of the cards.

[00:41:10] It's over a happy ending.

[00:41:12] Oh, God.

[00:41:13] We all lost our shit.

[00:41:15] That was so funny.

[00:41:17] He lost the next turn.

[00:41:19] Ultimately.

[00:41:20] Yeah.

[00:41:20] I just have a bit about Spock.

[00:41:22] Spock says something to Kirk that's coming up that didn't make any sense to me.

[00:41:25] I'm going to parse out with you.

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[00:43:07] When we last left our intrepid crew, Evil Kirk had tried some pre-MeToo bullshit on Yeoman Rand.

[00:43:12] The good Kirk orders the crew to capture the evil Kirk.

[00:43:16] But at Spock's advice, he keeps the fact that their quarry is his evil half a secret so as not to weaken the crew's faith in him.

[00:43:22] Yeah, okay.

[00:43:23] That was just an immediate flag on play.

[00:43:25] Okay.

[00:43:26] That's just bad advice.

[00:43:27] That's horrible advice.

[00:43:29] Bad advice.

[00:43:29] Okay.

[00:43:30] Okay.

[00:43:30] That's awful.

[00:43:30] I was like, what's his point?

[00:43:32] I don't understand the point he's making here.

[00:43:34] He's like, so if he doesn't say the very tactically advantageous thing of there's a second me running around?

[00:43:41] Seems like kind of an important thing you should mention to your crew.

[00:43:44] Like it seems like grossly irresponsible to not mention it to the crew.

[00:43:49] There's no way.

[00:43:50] The only way, the only way Captain Kirk doesn't look bad is if he tells the truth.

[00:43:55] Because they order the crew to capture Captain Kirk.

[00:44:00] Right.

[00:44:01] And then they find out afterward there was a body double.

[00:44:04] My first thing would be like, why didn't you just tell us there was a body double?

[00:44:07] How is a transporter accident that isn't Kirk's fault of failing on Kirk's part to show weakness in the first place?

[00:44:13] What he said didn't make any sense to me.

[00:44:15] I had to go back.

[00:44:15] I was like, wait, what is he trying to say?

[00:44:18] Like that him going through this is a personal failing of some sort?

[00:44:22] It just kind of seems like it's stoking good Kirk's already like ever brewing insecurities he's having throughout this episode.

[00:44:28] But this is coming from Spock.

[00:44:30] It just doesn't.

[00:44:31] Right?

[00:44:32] It's so illogical.

[00:44:34] I don't think it's a performance thing.

[00:44:36] I think it's a writing thing.

[00:44:37] It feels like it's a writing thing.

[00:44:39] Yeah.

[00:44:39] The crew is instead told of an imposter recognizable by the scratches on his cheek.

[00:44:45] So you've already told them there's an imposter.

[00:44:47] Why?

[00:44:48] This is I actually noted that.

[00:44:50] OK, if you really want to solve this issue, just good Kirk should have just put on a red shirt and confined himself to quarters while they search for the evil Kirk, giving temporary command to Spock.

[00:45:01] I mean, he's again, that's a note I have again is that he is wearing a different shirt.

[00:45:05] So it's not even like they're dressed the same.

[00:45:07] They're just like, hey, look for the me who's wearing the regular captain shirt guy.

[00:45:10] He's got a scratch on his face.

[00:45:11] It'll be immediately.

[00:45:12] Oh, he's kind of weird.

[00:45:13] It'll be immediately apparent, guys.

[00:45:15] Well, the thing the thing is, the reason you put Kirk in a red shirt is because evil Kirk could not swallow his ego enough to put on a red uniform.

[00:45:24] He'd rather die.

[00:45:26] He'd rather die than get out of command gold.

[00:45:29] That is true.

[00:45:31] That's that's where my more sweaty Kirk.

[00:45:33] No, I noticed that I something I was noticing progressively.

[00:45:37] He gets real sweaty at the end.

[00:45:39] Well, he's he's to be fair.

[00:45:41] He's engaging in a lot of physical activity.

[00:45:43] I mean, that is fair.

[00:45:45] That is fair.

[00:45:46] He's running around.

[00:45:47] He's drinking, you know.

[00:45:49] Yeah, I suppose.

[00:45:50] I suppose drinking will make you kind of kind of hot.

[00:45:53] That would make you sweat quite a bit.

[00:45:54] Yeah, he's rubbing up against other people.

[00:45:56] Getting he's talking.

[00:45:57] He's talking guys out.

[00:45:59] Yeah.

[00:45:59] I mean, he's he's moving around.

[00:46:01] So he's he's also.

[00:46:03] Yeah.

[00:46:04] I forgot to mention Yeoman Wrens.

[00:46:06] Her sort of reaction to being assaulted is once again, very 1960s in that she just kind of like, yeah, she she she's a little too forgiving for someone that someone would be today.

[00:46:22] See, and the thing about that is a lot of victim blaming that seems to happen as the episode is written.

[00:46:29] It's it's less.

[00:46:30] It still is.

[00:46:31] Don't get me wrong, but it's less so because by that point in the story, it's obvious that it was a different Captain Kirk.

[00:46:36] So it makes sense that she wouldn't be particularly like mad at good Kirk.

[00:46:41] But if this episode had been edited properly, there would have been zero context for that.

[00:46:45] As far as she's as far as she's concerned, Kirk assaulted her and Spock and McCoy are helping him cover it up.

[00:46:52] Fair.

[00:46:53] Yeah, you make a good point.

[00:46:54] Yeah, fair.

[00:46:55] So I agree wholeheartedly.

[00:46:56] She's way too OK with this.

[00:46:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:47:00] But to be fair, she gets she gets victimized a lot on the show and she always is way too forgiving.

[00:47:05] True.

[00:47:05] At least that's my general consensus of her.

[00:47:07] And I'm going to sound a little bit too liberal, but I don't have any I don't presume to tell a victim of assault how they should react.

[00:47:16] But I agree with what you're saying.

[00:47:18] It feels a little too forgiving and it feels a little too victim blaming for the taste.

[00:47:24] The assault is too dark or like if he had tried to like land a kiss and she gave him a that's where I'm like, I would have liked it, especially towards the end.

[00:47:34] And when to jump ahead, you see that evil Kirk is capable of faking it.

[00:47:38] I would have liked to see like a descent and that moment be the moment where like he goes slightly too far.

[00:47:44] I just think it was slightly too dark for this kind of show.

[00:47:48] I guess chalk went up for childhood innocence, but I remember it being more like portrayed as just him trying to land a kiss and then a struggle.

[00:47:58] Clearly, I was much more naive.

[00:48:00] Yeah.

[00:48:01] The last time I watched this episode because there I mean, there there's no way to misconstrue this.

[00:48:07] I mean, he.

[00:48:08] No, good thing that guy walked in is what I'm saying.

[00:48:10] Yeah.

[00:48:11] Well, so I guess I remember it being him trying to kiss her and then the struggle takes him to the ground.

[00:48:16] And that's that's not at all what happens in this episode.

[00:48:18] No, no, no, no.

[00:48:21] So so like I said, chalk went up to innocence, I guess.

[00:48:24] But I watch this and I my my reaction, honestly, as I was watching, I'm like.

[00:48:29] This is.

[00:48:32] This is pretty graphic.

[00:48:34] I mean, yeah, especially especially for the 1960s.

[00:48:38] I mean, I'm not a pearl clutch by any sense of the imagination.

[00:48:41] Even I would.

[00:48:42] Me neither.

[00:48:42] I mean, you got to think like even on television today.

[00:48:46] Like that's pretty brutal.

[00:48:48] Like it's not the worst, but it's.

[00:48:51] For what it is, is what I always say for what it is.

[00:48:54] That's what I'm saying, because a lot of times that kind of stuff is implied.

[00:48:57] Like you have like your law and order shows you rarely actually see.

[00:49:00] At least I don't know.

[00:49:02] This might not be the case, but like you usually don't see it.

[00:49:05] It's usually implied or you get like a.

[00:49:07] The most graphic law and order ever got to my basic recollection is there's an episode where you hear it happening in another room.

[00:49:14] And that episode was really gnarly.

[00:49:16] Again, I'm excited.

[00:49:17] We're getting some peak.

[00:49:19] We're coming into some peak evil Kirk.

[00:49:21] We are.

[00:49:21] It's good stuff.

[00:49:22] The evil Kirk hears this announcement and uses makeup to mask his entry, which once again, very good plot convenience that he just so happened to be in a quarters with makeup.

[00:49:31] Oh, for sure.

[00:49:32] That was that was his exact skin tone.

[00:49:34] Mind you.

[00:49:35] That's the moment where he he yells, I'm Captain Kirk angrily.

[00:49:39] I'm Captain Kirk!

[00:49:41] So how often do you think William Shatner has just straight up yelled angrily into a mirror?

[00:49:45] I'm Captain Kirk.

[00:49:47] I'm Captain Kirk!

[00:49:50] No, no.

[00:49:50] Just like imagine that that scene in V for Vendetta when the TV guy's in the shower and he's like talking to the mirror while he's doing it.

[00:49:59] Just Shatner in his shower.

[00:50:01] I'm Captain Kirk!

[00:50:03] I just I even to this day, there's no way at least once a week he's like, I'm Captain Kirk.

[00:50:10] No way.

[00:50:10] I refuse to believe it.

[00:50:12] To be fair.

[00:50:13] He was Captain Kirk.

[00:50:15] He was Captain Kirk.

[00:50:16] He was Captain Kirk.

[00:50:17] But yeah, back back to the just the pure dumb luck that and we've established there's a multicultural of ethnicities on the Starship Enterprise.

[00:50:28] And he just so happens to go into a room one in 240 of makeup with the exact same skin tone as his.

[00:50:36] But is there is there a chance that it's like Star Trek future makeup, which it just all makeup matches your skin tone inherently?

[00:50:42] That that's a much better answer.

[00:50:44] And honestly, that product would.

[00:50:46] I feel like they have that.

[00:50:48] They have it to a certain extent today, but to be able to be completely.

[00:50:55] Unnecessary to match a skin tone at all, like even light, medium or dark, that will make a billion dollars.

[00:51:02] So I mean, yeah, he secures a phaser that he steals a phaser from a security.

[00:51:07] Oh, no way.

[00:51:07] He does tell him to give it to him, doesn't he?

[00:51:10] Yeah.

[00:51:10] Yeah.

[00:51:11] Wilson doesn't listen very well.

[00:51:13] Yeah.

[00:51:13] Not particularly.

[00:51:14] They did not hear the announcement.

[00:51:16] They said, just so you know, there's a second Kirk out there.

[00:51:18] Don't give him anything or help him in any significant way.

[00:51:21] Here's your phaser evil Kirk.

[00:51:22] Well, again.

[00:51:24] And then he jumps him.

[00:51:26] Here's your hubris.

[00:51:28] Your hubris, you fool.

[00:51:30] Hubris chump.

[00:51:33] This is the third or fourth time where something happens purely for plot convenience.

[00:51:38] But then evil Kirk goes into hiding in the engineering section.

[00:51:42] My notes here, evil Kirk, shut them books.

[00:51:45] Because he just clears that for no reason whatsoever other than just pure anger being like, you smart people.

[00:51:53] Right.

[00:51:53] And then this is where I look.

[00:51:56] I had established evil Kirk is indeed wearing eyeliner and petroleum jelly to make him look more evil.

[00:52:07] His look generally made me laugh.

[00:52:09] So, I mean, like, I jokingly refer to this as emo Kirk in my mind.

[00:52:15] Because tonight will be the night that I will fall for you.

[00:52:21] He changed my mind.

[00:52:23] But if his hair had been disheveled and come down like this, that would have been fantastic.

[00:52:30] I mean, that would have been fantastic.

[00:52:32] That would have been phenomenal.

[00:52:33] Prompted by Spock, the good Kirk anticipates his evil counterpart.

[00:52:37] And they go to search in engineering.

[00:52:39] While the two Kirks face off, Spock disables the evil Kirk with a Vulcan nerve pinch.

[00:52:44] My note says the two Kirk effect, it looks good for the 60s.

[00:52:47] I was impressed.

[00:52:48] There was some good body work in this.

[00:52:50] See, I disagree.

[00:52:51] Because I saw that and I'm like, there's no way.

[00:52:54] This looks nothing like William Shatner at all.

[00:52:57] Interesting.

[00:52:57] I thought it was convincing.

[00:52:59] But okay, fair enough.

[00:52:59] I thought that they were maybe utilizing a bit of splits, like actual split screen.

[00:53:04] They did in two shots.

[00:53:05] But the rest of it was body work.

[00:53:07] Interesting.

[00:53:08] I thought when he was fighting, I thought it was reasonably believable.

[00:53:12] The fighting was.

[00:53:13] It oddly enough, it was the scenes where they were like standing or walking towards each other.

[00:53:18] What was really obvious to me.

[00:53:19] I thought the one where the shot one shot where he's in the bed and he's standing next to him.

[00:53:24] That one looked good.

[00:53:26] They looked better than it should have considering.

[00:53:28] Yeah.

[00:53:29] Yeah.

[00:53:29] Yeah.

[00:53:29] But for the 60s, to be fair, all for the 60s.

[00:53:33] Well, we my friends and I use that same camera trickery when we did our online wrestling show back in the.

[00:53:42] The mid 2000s, because we had we introduced a character that had a wig and all we did was to show because it was played by the same person.

[00:53:51] All we did was put the wig on somebody else and did a backshot and just dubbed dubbed over it like it was.

[00:53:57] I mean, this utilizes the very easy tool of evil, evil Kirk cut.

[00:54:04] Good Kirk, evil Kirk, cut.

[00:54:06] Good Kirk.

[00:54:07] So like it doesn't need a body double for a ton of it.

[00:54:10] Except this show.

[00:54:11] And it's happened on two episodes because when they did real McCoy and fake McCoy, this happened to when they would do a slow pan across.

[00:54:18] You would still see the cut.

[00:54:20] I mean, yeah, it's not perfect.

[00:54:22] It's still television, the 1960s.

[00:54:24] But yeah, so my note actually says I get it was the 60s, but the body doubles are obviously not William Shatner.

[00:54:29] I see.

[00:54:30] That's so funny.

[00:54:31] I thought it was for the most part believable.

[00:54:33] That's what do you think YouTube or Spotify or anywhere?

[00:54:38] What do you think?

[00:54:39] Internet.

[00:54:39] Internet.

[00:54:40] Do you think that the body double was convincing or, you know, do you agree with me and think that it was a little bit to be designed?

[00:54:47] I'm not going to say it was terrible.

[00:54:48] I'm probably cutting it up a little too much because, like you said, it was the 60s.

[00:54:52] But just I just laughed because I'm like, that's obviously not William Shatner.

[00:54:57] I mean, no, we see the Vulcan nerve pinch and this is treated the way you see it on screen.

[00:55:02] It is very much treated like it's the first time you see it.

[00:55:05] So it's not chronologically, but again, in the order that these episodes were produced, this is technically the debut of the Vulcan nerve pinch.

[00:55:12] It looks very like very deliberate.

[00:55:16] And like, this is the first time I'm meant to be seen because it's the first.

[00:55:18] I didn't notice it.

[00:55:19] But this time I hear like snakes up and he Vulcan nerve pinches them.

[00:55:23] And I'm like, OK, definitely the Vulcan nerve pinch.

[00:55:25] Well, if you remember in the Naked Time, the previous episode, Spock does it to Sulu.

[00:55:30] And he actually Kirk actually says to Spock, you're going to have to show me that sometime.

[00:55:34] Oh, interesting.

[00:55:35] I missed that the first time.

[00:55:37] But yeah.

[00:55:37] So originally Spock was supposed to give him a hubris chop to subdue the evil karate chop.

[00:55:46] But Leonard Nimoy felt that a race of beings, which this is just laughable considering we've seen Spock hit a woman.

[00:55:54] Yeah, I mean, yeah.

[00:55:56] But Leonard Nimoy reasoned that a race of people that had adopted logic as their core philosophy would have adopted a way of subduing an attacker without like striking them.

[00:56:05] That makes sense.

[00:56:07] Yeah.

[00:56:07] Which it makes sense until in the first episode we ever see on television, Spock literally slaps a woman across the face three times.

[00:56:15] Oh, yeah, right.

[00:56:16] Yeah, right, right, right.

[00:56:17] I made a joke about that, didn't I?

[00:56:18] Which to be fair, he knew it wasn't a woman.

[00:56:20] But we also did see him manslap Kirk, which again, he was under the influence.

[00:56:24] So I guess when a Vulcan is conscious, I also saw a note and I have to take issue with this.

[00:56:30] I saw a note suggesting that that move was inspired from Krav Maga.

[00:56:34] As a practitioner of Krav Maga, that'd be some bullshit.

[00:56:41] I don't think I've heard that.

[00:56:43] No, see, it was a note that I saw on IMDB and I'm like, that is just patently false.

[00:56:48] First of all, there's no nerve pinches in Krav Maga because fun fact, they don't work.

[00:56:53] Yeah.

[00:56:55] But just because and they were like, well, because Leonard Nimoy is Jewish and he would probably know Krav Maga.

[00:57:00] I'm like, that's incredibly racist.

[00:57:03] Right.

[00:57:05] I mean, if Leonard Nimoy was originally from Israel, maybe.

[00:57:10] But Krav Maga would still be relatively new at this point.

[00:57:13] I always thought that the Vulcan nerve pin didn't come from anywhere.

[00:57:17] Like it doesn't work.

[00:57:18] That's the whole thing with it.

[00:57:19] Yeah, that's well, it would theoretically work with a Vulcan, but yeah.

[00:57:25] You know, but anyway.

[00:57:26] So, yeah, I had to call out the note about it being inspired by Krav Maga.

[00:57:29] No, Krav Maga would have been like grab the motherfucker and break his neck.

[00:57:34] That's Krav Maga.

[00:57:36] Yeah, it's the opposite of some doing that.

[00:57:38] That's some Aikido shit.

[00:57:40] So we're going to use their energy against them.

[00:57:42] Krav Maga is like kick him in the dick.

[00:57:44] Repeat.

[00:57:45] Yeah, stab him out.

[00:57:46] Spock and McCoy realize that both Kirk's are mentally deteriorating and they must find a

[00:57:52] way to reverse the transporter accident to save them as well as the stranded landing party.

[00:57:57] See, it's funny that you mentioned the ticking clock because that is kind of, that is a ticking

[00:58:00] clock of this slope.

[00:58:01] But my question is, they never fully explain like what is that?

[00:58:05] They don't explain the mechanics of the split well enough for me to understand the deterioration

[00:58:10] of both of them.

[00:58:11] It just kind of feels like an arbitrary third, third, like, that's the word I'm looking

[00:58:15] for.

[00:58:15] Like last minute ad basically.

[00:58:17] It feels that way.

[00:58:19] I feel like they explain it well enough because they're two parts of a whole and the longer

[00:58:24] they're not together, the more they both deteriorate.

[00:58:27] I tend to think, I guess because I think of things more literally, I'm like, there's a way

[00:58:31] it's his brain being split in half.

[00:58:33] Like, what is the actual, like, what is actually happening to them on a physiological level?

[00:58:38] I guess it's maybe where.

[00:58:42] Yeah, that's not explained too good.

[00:58:44] Not that I'm expecting it to, but that's just how my brain works.

[00:58:47] I'm like, I'm asked, I have questions about how this works.

[00:58:50] So, but this is where I do.

[00:58:52] You're like, it's not magic anyway.

[00:58:53] Yeah.

[00:58:53] Yeah.

[00:58:54] But this is where I have my note about disagreeing with referring to the Kirk's as good and

[00:58:58] evil Kirk.

[00:58:59] Yin and Yang would be much more appropriate because.

[00:59:01] Yeah.

[00:59:02] And, and they kind of sort of go into it because Spock points out that, you know, Kirk's strength

[00:59:08] of command is mostly in the dark Kirk.

[00:59:12] Yeah.

[00:59:13] Well, you know what it reminds me of?

[00:59:14] Did you ever watch the, the cartoon Jackie Chan adventures?

[00:59:18] Are you familiar with it at all?

[00:59:19] I love that show.

[00:59:20] And I know it reminds me of the, the tiger, the tiger talisman where it, it's not evil.

[00:59:25] Evil.

[00:59:26] Jackie is not evil.

[00:59:27] He still has sort of Jackie's morals code.

[00:59:30] He's just more willing to bend it.

[00:59:33] Well, he's Yang Jackie.

[00:59:34] And that's the thing.

[00:59:35] So this is, this is the difference.

[00:59:38] Which again, most, most people I'm, I'm, I'm not trying to sound like I'm a philosophy

[00:59:43] professor, but this is how it was explained to me.

[00:59:45] A lot of people in the West have trouble understanding the Dallas principle of Yin and Yang, because we

[00:59:52] think very much black and white, good and evil, generally speaking as a society.

[00:59:56] Yeah.

[00:59:57] And whereas in more Eastern philosophies is very much a harmonious relationship, which

[01:00:02] is why in the Yin and Yang you have on the white side, you still have the dark circle

[01:00:06] and on the black side, you still have the white circle because it's two parts of a whole

[01:00:11] without one.

[01:00:12] You wouldn't have the other.

[01:00:14] And they're, they're both necessary to create a whole person.

[01:00:17] And that's why Yin Kirk and Yang Kirk, which they never would have said on television in

[01:00:24] the sixties.

[01:00:25] So I get it.

[01:00:26] Way too Asian.

[01:00:28] Oh my.

[01:00:29] But even the concept of them needing to be reunified with each other is very much.

[01:00:33] I mean, that's Yin and Yang.

[01:00:35] That's the whole thing.

[01:00:37] And then they acknowledge the fact that, you know, Kirk's strength of command is mostly

[01:00:42] in the Yang part, but it's tempered and becomes effective by the Yin part, which has the restraint,

[01:00:49] the compassion, the logic, the calculation, all that stuff.

[01:00:53] Yeah.

[01:00:54] But the strength of will, you know, the willingness to fight and be violent when necessary.

[01:00:59] It's all a marriage that makes one very effective commander.

[01:01:03] I think it maybe would have been a tad more, not that I, again, love this episode, but

[01:01:07] I think it would have been a tad more interesting if, again, evil Kirk hadn't been strapped to

[01:01:12] a bed for the back half of the episode.

[01:01:14] Like if he had to learn to like work with good and they had to learn to work together, that

[01:01:18] I think would have been, but that would have required the, uh, the use of the effect of

[01:01:23] having two Kirks around at the same time, which I understand is difficult logistically.

[01:01:27] If you were to redo this episode concept today and like say strange new worlds are

[01:01:33] our proposed star Trek series, which you would have seen on the tune talk 2.0 episode of

[01:01:38] when we talked about star Trek, where we have a descendant of this Sulu as a captain, that

[01:01:46] would be very interesting to have that be the case instead of, and you could do that

[01:01:52] now with the visual effects that we can do now.

[01:01:56] I gotta say, that'd be a really good episode.

[01:01:59] Yeah.

[01:01:59] Yeah.

[01:01:59] I think I, I, cause that's my one thing with this episode overall is it's just, yeah, I

[01:02:05] wanted more nuance, but I'm also like, it's episode six of a, of a show.

[01:02:09] So I'm like, I, am I asking too much?

[01:02:12] It's also, it also is going to be my question.

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[01:03:17] Spock and Scott use power from the ship's impulse tribe to reverse the transporter on the dog

[01:03:22] like specimen.

[01:03:23] Oh, the, the, uh, the alpha spaniel when it materializes, the creature is whole, but dead.

[01:03:29] Oh shit.

[01:03:30] The dog.

[01:03:30] Oh shit.

[01:03:31] The dog died.

[01:03:32] Wasn't expecting that.

[01:03:33] So Jesus, they killed the dog.

[01:03:35] Didn't kill the dog.

[01:03:35] I was not, it was not expecting them to kill the dog.

[01:03:39] Yeah.

[01:03:39] No, they didn't actually kill the dog.

[01:03:40] Science in regards to fixing the transporter.

[01:03:43] I've just got science fiction mumbo jumbo.

[01:03:45] You know, it's like they got to reverse the polarity.

[01:03:47] They always have to reverse the polarity.

[01:03:50] Well, believe it or not, that actually does make sense.

[01:03:53] Oh, does it?

[01:03:54] I just think it's funny when they're like, we have to reverse the reverse course.

[01:03:57] The, the, the cross fix with the, and then, you know what I mean?

[01:04:01] Like that.

[01:04:01] Well, so this is, this is before, this is before Star Trek gets really sort of cliche with its,

[01:04:10] uh, there's actually word for it.

[01:04:13] I'm just blanking on it.

[01:04:15] Um, techno talk, techno babble, techno babble.

[01:04:19] That's what it is.

[01:04:19] Techno babble.

[01:04:20] It's really bad in like deep space nine and Voyager and really in next generation too.

[01:04:27] My favorite one of those, like divert all power to the shields or like use auxiliary power,

[01:04:32] transfer all power to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, as if you can just like tell circuits

[01:04:37] to move power, which I guess in Star Trek, you can.

[01:04:39] I suppose it's Star Trek.

[01:04:41] My suspension disbelief is a little bit bigger in the, in this instance.

[01:04:44] But yeah, so, well, actually, you know what?

[01:04:47] I take that back.

[01:04:48] Uh, reversing the polarity might make sense when you're talking about an antimatter matter

[01:04:53] engine, but in a transporter, I don't think so.

[01:04:57] So yeah, we're going to call that techno babble.

[01:05:00] If you're an engineer, illuminate us, illuminate us in the comments, please.

[01:05:05] Spock suggests that the animal died because it's animal brain cannot handle the stress of

[01:05:10] its two halves being reintegrated.

[01:05:12] So Kirk will be able to survive the same procedure because he has his mind.

[01:05:16] While Dr. McCoy insists they can't take the risk that the death may have been caused by

[01:05:23] the ongoing transporter malfunction.

[01:05:25] This episode has one of those first moments where you really see that relationship I talked

[01:05:30] about in the earlier episodes of Spock and McCoy very much being Kirk's, uh, the equivalent

[01:05:37] to his angel and devil, but not so much for morality.

[01:05:40] Um, yeah.

[01:05:42] And I can see what you would want both of these people in your inner circle.

[01:05:46] Oh, for sure.

[01:05:47] I'm very, for sure.

[01:05:47] I definitely, I'm still like, I love the dynamic.

[01:05:49] I mean, and I love the, the addition of, of, uh, of Scotty in there because he's adding

[01:05:53] a totally different kind of thinking in there as well, which I really quite dig.

[01:05:57] Like, well, Scott, yeah, Scotty is another valuable asset, but Scotty is more of the

[01:06:03] reality check.

[01:06:04] I found because that's, he's very fond of saying I cannot do it.

[01:06:08] Captain, I cannot bend the laws of physics.

[01:06:11] I'm doing my best captain.

[01:06:12] I'm doing my best.

[01:06:13] I'm giving her all.

[01:06:14] She's got.

[01:06:15] He has not said that yet.

[01:06:16] I'm, I'm waiting patiently for that.

[01:06:18] Not yet.

[01:06:18] Not yet.

[01:06:19] It's coming.

[01:06:19] It's coming.

[01:06:20] It will be a thing.

[01:06:21] So fun fact about James doing though, this is one of the few times in star Trek where you

[01:06:25] can see that the middle finger on Jimmy doings right hand is missing doing lost the finger

[01:06:31] during the D day invasion in 1944.

[01:06:34] Oh, no kidding.

[01:06:35] He took great pains to conceal its absence during the series, but his full right hand can

[01:06:40] be glimpsed briefly when he reaches into the box, holding the snarling alien dog, which

[01:06:45] again, this is just, this just talks about how, you know, time passes.

[01:06:49] It didn't even occur to me that some of these people would have served in the second world

[01:06:52] war.

[01:06:53] Yeah.

[01:06:53] Right.

[01:06:53] You don't think about that.

[01:06:54] We're only 21 years removed from the end of the war.

[01:06:59] Yeah.

[01:06:59] Yeah.

[01:07:00] It's yeah.

[01:07:00] I noticed that a lot when I noticed that a lot when watching movies from that era as

[01:07:04] well, but you're like, yeah, they're not that far removed from it.

[01:07:06] Are they?

[01:07:06] No.

[01:07:07] And in fact, I actually want to now look up.

[01:07:09] Oh, wow.

[01:07:10] Okay.

[01:07:10] So we, geez, a lot of people, a large number of the original series, writers, actors,

[01:07:14] and producers, and other production staff members served as veterans of the second

[01:07:18] world war.

[01:07:18] Among these were Gene Roddenberry, James Doohan, DeForest Kelly, Mark Leonard, Matt Jeffries,

[01:07:25] Robert H.

[01:07:25] Justman, Joseph Pevney, and Ralph Sineski.

[01:07:28] Oh, where did?

[01:07:30] Okay.

[01:07:31] This is very interesting.

[01:07:33] I'm wondering.

[01:07:34] Well, because we know that Jim, James Doohan was at D-Day.

[01:07:39] So I wonder where did, where did DeForest Kelly serve?

[01:07:42] Oh, I'd like, I see this note here that DeForest Kelly is known for his role in Westerns.

[01:07:47] Oh, that makes sense.

[01:07:49] I really want to see this now.

[01:07:50] He definitely has that sort of look.

[01:07:52] Yeah.

[01:07:52] I really want to see him.

[01:07:54] Which, fun fact, Kelly was also born in Atlanta, Georgia.

[01:07:58] Oh, interesting.

[01:08:00] 1934, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[01:08:03] Made his film debut in the course of New Moon, 1940.

[01:08:08] And, oh, no, he was almost, during World War II, Kelly served as an enlisted man in the

[01:08:12] United States Army Air Forces.

[01:08:14] Oh, he's assigned, okay, he was part of the first motion picture unit with the rank of

[01:08:19] private first class.

[01:08:20] Okay.

[01:08:20] So he's an actor in the Army?

[01:08:21] Yeah.

[01:08:22] Oh.

[01:08:22] Doing, oh, but this is fun.

[01:08:25] Kelly was spotted by a Paramount picture scout while doing a US, United States Navy training

[01:08:31] film.

[01:08:33] Oh, interesting.

[01:08:34] So in a weird way, had it not been for World War II, we might not have had, might not, well,

[01:08:42] no, Dr. McCoy, at least as we know him today.

[01:08:44] So, which I, this is why I love, one of my, one of my favorite characters in Deep Space Nine

[01:08:49] is Dr. Bashir, but because he's the polar opposite of bones.

[01:08:53] You get to see the change, though, because he starts as this wide-eyed, really, you know,

[01:08:58] naive young doctor.

[01:08:59] And by the series end, he's been through a war.

[01:09:02] He's been through an active combat zone.

[01:09:04] He's been on the frontier.

[01:09:06] He's seen various assaults on space stations and ships.

[01:09:09] And when you see that change, it's such a great arc to watch.

[01:09:14] It's, he becomes a hardened veteran, but still doesn't really lose his, I don't know how you

[01:09:20] would call it, his, um...

[01:09:22] Spirit?

[01:09:23] Yeah, he doesn't really lose his spirit, but it does become a little bit more mature.

[01:09:27] He becomes a lot more mature.

[01:09:29] With the landing party nearly dead from hypothermia, the good Kirk opts to gamble on the procedure

[01:09:34] rather than wait for an autopsy on the creature.

[01:09:38] Phasers apparently have a shotgun setting.

[01:09:40] Set my phaser from kill to heat gun.

[01:09:43] I also, um, I don't know if we skipped over, but when they came back from one of the breaks,

[01:09:48] Spock was doing the captain's log.

[01:09:50] Yes, he was.

[01:09:51] And I appreciated, I appreciated how his captain's log was far more concise and to the point

[01:09:55] than Kirk's is.

[01:09:56] Like, Kirk, he tends to go into a lot of flowery detail describing, like, his voice seemed to

[01:10:00] go on forever, whereas Spock was just like, this is what happened, this is the point, done.

[01:10:06] Yeah, he's like...

[01:10:06] I was like, I like there was a difference in character that I appreciated the attention

[01:10:10] to kind of that detail of like, yeah, his captain's log would be more concise.

[01:10:14] It just makes sense.

[01:10:15] Yeah, it's kind of like asking a married couple to journal.

[01:10:18] Yeah, yeah.

[01:10:20] I can see that, yeah.

[01:10:21] It's like the wife is talking about, like, the minute details and how she feels, and then

[01:10:25] the husband's like, ate a sandwich at noon.

[01:10:27] It was cold.

[01:10:28] Right?

[01:10:29] Kirk is two people now.

[01:10:30] It's been a weird day.

[01:10:32] Spock out.

[01:10:33] But yeah, and I did like the little note they add because my first question was like,

[01:10:37] well, you can send down like heaters and clothes and stuff, but Spock actually makes a point,

[01:10:42] or not just Spock.

[01:10:43] Kirk makes a point to us, like, can't we send down heaters?

[01:10:45] And Spock is like, we tried.

[01:10:47] We sent them down.

[01:10:47] They duplicated and they don't work.

[01:10:50] Yeah, it makes them worse.

[01:10:52] Although I appreciate that.

[01:10:53] It's like everything is getting duplicated.

[01:10:55] I like that detail as well.

[01:10:57] Well, but so send down some jackets or blankets and then they just duplicate and then you have

[01:11:01] more blankets.

[01:11:03] Well, yeah, but is it like, okay, you're sending down like a down blanket or jacket and now you're

[01:11:07] getting a jacket that doesn't have down now.

[01:11:10] You're getting two jackets, but they don't have down anymore.

[01:11:12] Probably.

[01:11:13] When good Kirk releases the evil Kirk, his other self overpowers him and gives him facial

[01:11:18] scratches to match his own.

[01:11:20] Pretending to be the good Kirk, he tells Rand the truth about the imposter and offers the

[01:11:24] chance to elaborate before heading to the bridge.

[01:11:27] He orders the crew to leave orbit, telling the navigator that the landing party cannot be saved,

[01:11:32] which should have been an instant red flag to everyone immediately.

[01:11:36] But I like this scene with Yom and Rand.

[01:11:38] And I made me, I brought this up a few times, but it made me wish that the entire episode

[01:11:43] was that where it was a bit, again, a bit more ambiguous, which Kirk was which.

[01:11:47] Yeah, they could have had a lot of fun with that.

[01:11:49] Yeah.

[01:11:50] And it was like, oh, okay.

[01:11:51] He is capable of being suave, smart, like sexy, handsome Kirk and not just like weird,

[01:11:57] enraged, drunk, rapey Kirk.

[01:11:59] Like he's capable of.

[01:12:00] So I think it would have been more interesting if maybe we'd seen the switch up.

[01:12:03] And then, yeah, then you could have questioned the difference between like the, the, uh,

[01:12:08] flaccid Kirk.

[01:12:10] Yeah, definitely.

[01:12:11] Solid Kirk on Kirk action.

[01:12:13] I have that note as well.

[01:12:14] Very solid Kirk on Kirk action.

[01:12:16] Believable double work is what I said.

[01:12:18] And also you mentioned it already.

[01:12:19] Uh, evil Kirk is so sweaty.

[01:12:22] It's very sweaty.

[01:12:23] Uh, the good Kirk and McCoy race to the bridge where the two Kirks face off.

[01:12:27] The good Kirk at last persuades evil Kirk that they need each other to survive and will both

[01:12:32] live on as parts of the same whole.

[01:12:35] More Kirk screams.

[01:12:38] I look, I thought that those sequences were he's considering he's acting and he's playing

[01:12:42] against himself and he clearly does not remember moment to moment, which, which one he is.

[01:12:46] I it's impressive.

[01:12:47] Like he's, he's doing some decent, like it's a little silly.

[01:12:50] It's a little over the top.

[01:12:51] It was working for me.

[01:12:52] I'm like, you know what?

[01:12:53] It's supposed to be.

[01:12:55] Um, I, I could see why people make fun of it, but it was working for me.

[01:12:59] Did you, did you notice the scratches switch sides?

[01:13:02] No, I just noticed McCoy giving that look of like, man, it's been a weird Wednesday.

[01:13:07] Yeah.

[01:13:07] Which we're still early in this mission, but yeah, eventually, eventually you would just

[01:13:12] view that as like a Tuesday.

[01:13:14] Like he's just like, what is this?

[01:13:15] Oh man.

[01:13:16] There's two of them now.

[01:13:17] I just, uh, um, like it can't be real Harrison Ford, for Harrison Ford vibes of

[01:13:24] like, I'm just tired.

[01:13:26] Well, for both of them, their scratches are on their left cheek.

[01:13:29] Um, I didn't even notice that.

[01:13:31] So there's, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a shot where the scratches move to

[01:13:36] the right side.

[01:13:37] And the reason being is because they realized when they were editing it, that the, um,

[01:13:43] Oh my God, I know this term and I'm just blanking on it.

[01:13:46] The, the, the line that you can't cross when you're shooting a scene.

[01:13:50] Cause otherwise it'll look weird.

[01:13:54] Uh, from, Oh, Oh, I know what you're talking about.

[01:13:56] I made a movie.

[01:13:56] I don't remember what it's called.

[01:13:57] I can't, I'm spacing on what it's called.

[01:13:59] Yeah.

[01:14:00] Uh, anyway, they broke that when they were, uh, shooting accidentally.

[01:14:06] And the only way to fix it was to flip the shot and post.

[01:14:09] And they just hoped people wouldn't notice.

[01:14:11] Um, I noticed instantly.

[01:14:13] I certainly didn't notice.

[01:14:14] No, I noticed immediately.

[01:14:16] And I was like, every time I see something like that, it just reminds me of Robin hood

[01:14:20] men in tights when the mole keeps moving.

[01:14:23] Oh, I've never seen that movie.

[01:14:24] That's funny.

[01:14:25] You've never seen Robin hood men in tights.

[01:14:27] No, I've never seen it.

[01:14:28] Oh, you must.

[01:14:29] You'll love it.

[01:14:31] I don't think I, I know the song.

[01:14:33] We're men, we're men in tights.

[01:14:37] We roam around the forest looking for lights.

[01:14:40] I don't think I've seen all of that.

[01:14:41] I think I've seen parts of it.

[01:14:43] Oh, you'll love it.

[01:14:43] You must watch it.

[01:14:44] But the same thing happened.

[01:14:45] Okay.

[01:14:45] You've seen young Frankenstein though, right?

[01:14:47] Yes.

[01:14:47] That I have seen.

[01:14:48] So Igor's hump keeps moving.

[01:14:50] It's a joke in the movie.

[01:14:51] Oh, that's so fun.

[01:14:53] I was just, I thought that movie was so weird.

[01:14:56] And the thing, the thing I was so distracted by was just how the movie ends on a weird erection

[01:15:01] joke.

[01:15:02] It's a wonderful erection joke.

[01:15:04] I'm putting on the wrist.

[01:15:05] Oh my God.

[01:15:07] Captain Kirk orders Scott to attempt the reversal process in the transporter and Kirk is rejoined

[01:15:11] as one being with a sense of command and goodwill restored and the transporter repaired.

[01:15:16] Kirk orders the landing party beamed up immediately.

[01:15:19] They are safe despite the cold.

[01:15:21] Ran tells Kirk about her last encounter with the evil Kirk, but he cuts her off before she

[01:15:25] can discuss the issue any further.

[01:15:27] This is probably the worst part of the episode.

[01:15:30] I mean, this is if, if the assault was questionable.

[01:15:35] Oh, wait, what Spock says to her at the end.

[01:15:37] Oh, I was like, Oh, that, that was icky.

[01:15:40] That might notice.

[01:15:41] Literally.

[01:15:41] What is Spock implying?

[01:15:43] Kind of icky.

[01:15:45] I was like, that's kind of icky.

[01:15:47] Ooh.

[01:15:47] Ooh.

[01:15:48] Is it implying that she liked it?

[01:15:49] Don't like that.

[01:15:51] So once again, we get smarmy Spock and I saw a grin.

[01:15:55] I saw a smarmy pointy eared fuck.

[01:15:59] I didn't like it.

[01:16:00] I didn't like it.

[01:16:01] I don't like it.

[01:16:02] Yeah.

[01:16:02] That was very uncharacteristic Spock.

[01:16:05] Like, yeah, I guess.

[01:16:07] Yeah.

[01:16:08] I get so actually.

[01:16:10] That's that 1960s peeking out.

[01:16:12] So Grace Lee Whitney was very unhappy.

[01:16:15] So the, the actress that plays Yoman Rand.

[01:16:17] Good for her.

[01:16:17] She was very unhappy about the last scene of the episode in which Spock asked Yoman Rand.

[01:16:22] The imposter had some very interesting qualities.

[01:16:25] Wouldn't you say Yoman?

[01:16:26] In her autobiography, she wrote, quote, I can't imagine any more cruel and insensitive comment

[01:16:33] a man or a Vulcan could have made to a woman who had just been through a sexual assault.

[01:16:39] But then.

[01:16:40] Yeah, no kidding.

[01:16:40] But then some men really do think that women want to be raped.

[01:16:44] So the writer of the script of sensibly Richard Matheson, although the line could have been

[01:16:48] added by Gene Roddenberry or an assistant scribe, gave us a leering Mr. Spock who suggests

[01:16:53] that Yoman Rand enjoyed the assault and found evil Kirk attractive.

[01:16:59] Yeah.

[01:17:00] See, I, I, I thought that that was just a lot of times when I, when I, because people

[01:17:04] accuse me of reading too much into stuff and I'm like, no suggesting that he just,

[01:17:10] yeah.

[01:17:18] Yeah.

[01:17:19] I loved it.

[01:17:20] I loved the whole concept of him breaking into two characters because that really was

[01:17:23] what Kirk and Rand were about.

[01:17:25] There were two sides of Kirk and two sides of Rand.

[01:17:28] Rand was there to be of service to him, but she also was in love with them.

[01:17:31] Um, but she knew she mustn't go.

[01:17:34] She mustn't go over.

[01:17:37] She knew she mustn't go over the boundaries, which that is one part of their relationship

[01:17:41] that I do like.

[01:17:42] You do feel that tension of like, yeah, these two totally, these two do totally want to bone

[01:17:48] each other consensually.

[01:17:49] But yeah.

[01:17:50] They both know they can't because.

[01:17:53] I think, I think, yeah, maybe if he had crossed like, it likes to cross a professional line

[01:17:59] and they had a preferred, the purely professional relationship.

[01:18:02] It, it's just the, the, the tone of that scene is so off.

[01:18:06] It's so off for me.

[01:18:07] It just doesn't, I understand what it just feels like she's trying to reconcile what,

[01:18:12] which wasn't, what wasn't a very kind of be like, wait, what, when did she write that

[01:18:15] autobiography?

[01:18:16] Like 20 years later being like trying to reconcile and not so great thing.

[01:18:21] Well, no, I can imagine her being quite upset at the time, but in the sixties, what are you

[01:18:25] going to do?

[01:18:26] You know?

[01:18:26] Yeah, exactly.

[01:18:27] Especially with a character like Yeoman Rand.

[01:18:29] Cause honestly, in that show, if you're not Kirk Spock or McCoy, I mean, you could easily

[01:18:34] be written out of that show.

[01:18:36] True.

[01:18:37] I just, I just don't feel like compared to say I had the only other strong female character

[01:18:41] on the show, which is Ohura.

[01:18:42] Ohura never gets victimized.

[01:18:44] Not to the same degree that Yeoman Rand does.

[01:18:46] She really does take the brunt of like, like, you notice he didn't go for your,

[01:18:50] Ohura is what I'm saying.

[01:18:52] Well, Ohura wasn't in this episode, but, um, and there, well, as we've seen, there really

[01:18:58] is more sexual chemistry between Ohura and Spock and then Ohura and Kirk.

[01:19:02] Although they do, they do share a forced kiss in the, uh, in a later episode, Ohura and,

[01:19:08] um, um, Captain Kirk.

[01:19:10] So for me up front, um, it's all my favorite science fiction.

[01:19:15] Like I love the idea of an evil, of an evil version of yourself.

[01:19:17] So going forward, I didn't know that there was more than one on this show because going

[01:19:22] forward, uh, we obviously have a mirror Kirk.

[01:19:26] Um, is, is it, is it, is it a different kind of evil in that case?

[01:19:30] Cause that's where I'm curious.

[01:19:31] Like what's the, to differentiate this evil Kirk versus that evil Kirk.

[01:19:34] That one's pretty similar actually.

[01:19:36] Um, but there, there are a couple of other instances of Kirk doubles and other, I think

[01:19:40] there's four in total in the series.

[01:19:42] Oh really?

[01:19:43] Yeah.

[01:19:43] Interesting.

[01:19:43] I didn't know that.

[01:19:44] And they're all fun.

[01:19:45] They're all delightful.

[01:19:46] Once again, though, zero red shirts killed.

[01:19:49] I was, I had my note ready for it.

[01:19:51] There was none.

[01:19:52] I was, I'm, I'm surprised for six episodes and we haven't seen a one, not a single one.

[01:19:57] Red shirts.

[01:19:57] Haven't really been that prevalent.

[01:19:59] Generally.

[01:19:59] I mean the most to Scotty, he's wearing a red shirt.

[01:20:02] He's the most red shirt we've seen.

[01:20:04] He's an officer though.

[01:20:05] So he's safe.

[01:20:13] Total is still a zero.

[01:20:15] I'm starting to think.

[01:20:17] First time it happens, I'm going to bring it up.

[01:20:19] Oh yeah, we are.

[01:20:19] We're going to, we're going to bring it up.

[01:20:21] The last few episodes has been like gold and blue shirts that are taking the brunt of,

[01:20:25] uh, the casualties.

[01:20:28] They really, maybe like the red shirts have a union or something and then it just gets

[01:20:31] dismantled and perhaps like a workers' rights groups.

[01:20:35] That's just like, you know what?

[01:20:35] We're good.

[01:20:36] And then they dismantle and then all of a sudden working conditions become awful.

[01:20:39] I just, my theory is there was like five red shirts and they just, they were just like,

[01:20:43] well, you know, they're, they're the easiest to get dirty and clean.

[01:20:46] You know what?

[01:20:46] That might actually, that, that probably is the case now that you mentioned it.

[01:20:50] Oh, you're going to really notice some dirt on some yellow shirts.

[01:20:53] And the blue ones though.

[01:20:55] Yeah.

[01:20:55] And the blue ones.

[01:20:56] Don't want to scuffle up a blue shirt.

[01:20:58] That was the enemy within.

[01:20:59] Do you have any final thoughts?

[01:21:02] I like this one.

[01:21:03] Uh, thus far, uh, the last one still my favorite.

[01:21:05] I did enjoy this.

[01:21:07] I just, it didn't.

[01:21:08] I'm for me, the worst thing is when it, when it, when a story doesn't utilize its premise

[01:21:11] well enough.

[01:21:12] And I just was like, I want a more subtlety from this.

[01:21:15] Um, and that has everything to do with its era.

[01:21:17] And I feel guilty holding that against it.

[01:21:20] Like, I just don't think that they were capable of that kind of subtlety back in the sixties,

[01:21:24] but, um, I just wanted, I was, I was like, I just wish there was a bit more because

[01:21:27] especially at the end where you have, um, evil Kirk making the plea to not wanting to go

[01:21:32] back.

[01:21:32] And I'm like, I just didn't get enough with evil Kirk to really feel for this dilemma.

[01:21:38] I just, I didn't understand him as much as a character as I would have liked.

[01:21:42] Yeah.

[01:21:43] But otherwise I had a good time.

[01:21:44] There was a lot of goofy, goofy Shatner acting like goofy Shatner acting will carry an episode

[01:21:48] for me at this point.

[01:21:49] It absolutely will.

[01:21:51] And then, like you said, we got some Sulu.

[01:21:53] We got some McCoy.

[01:21:55] Yeah.

[01:21:55] Sulu had some good one-liners.

[01:21:56] He was, he was doing some, he was doing some, uh, he was giving some sass.

[01:21:59] I was enjoying that.

[01:22:00] It was something like sassy.

[01:22:01] He was giving some sassy Sulu.

[01:22:03] Like, just like you said, one of my favorite episodes were probably not my favorite.

[01:22:06] I think my favorite thus far has been the naked time.

[01:22:08] I appreciate how, um, every time we go to the next time you haven't like given away a

[01:22:13] single one.

[01:22:14] I would not have expected evil, evil Kirk to, uh, to happen in this.

[01:22:18] If like, I just, if you were to be like, what do you think the next episode is going

[01:22:21] to be about?

[01:22:21] I would not have said evil Kirk.

[01:22:23] Well, so actually fun.

[01:22:24] Nothing metaphysical.

[01:22:25] Certainly.

[01:22:26] What, what do you think the next episode will be about based on, based on the title?

[01:22:31] What's the title again?

[01:22:33] The next episode we'll be looking at is titled muds women.

[01:22:38] Oh, I mean, automatically it's just like Amazon women.

[01:22:43] Like, you know, the episode of, of Futurama where they go to the, like snooze new.

[01:22:47] That's what I, that's what it makes me think of.

[01:22:48] That's actually my favorite episode of Futurama.

[01:22:51] I, that's how I say I want to go.

[01:22:53] So fun fact though, that episode is actually inspired by an episode of the original series

[01:22:57] of Star Trek.

[01:22:59] That's, that's what I figured.

[01:23:00] Dude, there's a lot of episodes of that show where I'm like, this surely is based, but

[01:23:03] that's the, that's what I think.

[01:23:04] It's going to be like, they discover like Amazonian women or something.

[01:23:07] Um, no.

[01:23:09] Dang it.

[01:23:10] You're, you're going to have fun with the next episode though.

[01:23:12] It is.

[01:23:14] I've yet to have a bad time.

[01:23:15] It's one of the most 1960s episodes in the whole.

[01:23:20] Really?

[01:23:20] I mean, to me, this is the, like, this has been the most 1960s episode thus far, just because

[01:23:25] there's like some dubious consent happening in this episode.

[01:23:28] Oh, buckle up my friend, buckle up.

[01:23:31] Well, join us next week when we take a look at said episode muds women.

[01:23:40] What is a registration beam?

[01:23:42] I have no idea.

[01:23:44] Harcourt Fenton Harry mud is a fun character.

[01:23:47] Well, she's like, she went from what she's, she's got makeup on now.

[01:23:51] So did the makeup, the makeup in her head, like what, it didn't make any sense.