Invasion of The Vanishing

[00:00:01] The most thrilling, spikingly series ever! From the pages of Ariel Stein's best-selling books, and the screens go on forever and ever! We now return to Goosebumps!

[00:01:05] Greetings Goosebumps fans, young and old, big and small, living dead and undead. Welcome back to The Goosebumps Crew Podcast. As always, I am your host, Isaiah Vargas. I'm joined by my good buddies Bjorn Palenik and Nick Shaw. We are The Goosebumps Crew, and we are back to talk some Goosebumps. If it's your first time joining us here on The Goosebumps Crew Podcast, one sincerely welcome you all. If you are or have ever been a fan of the popular Goosebumps series of books or the monster franchise that they spawned, I have a feeling this podcast is going to be right up your alley.

[00:01:32] As I always say, me, Bjorn, and Nick are some of the biggest Goosebumps nerds on the entire planet. We could talk about Goosebumps for hours on end. That is exactly what we do here on this podcast. Every week we have a brand new episode talking about everything Goosebumps, whether it be the books, TV shows, movies, video games, merchandise, whatever it is. If it has Goosebumps in the name, we're going to talk about it until you cannot stand the word Goosebumps anymore. It's going to be like a trigger word in like PTSD or something like that. That's what it's going to come to. But with all that said, if you end up liking today's episode,

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[00:02:59] This season has been teased ever since February of 2024, not too long after the first season ended in November of 2023. Now, for those who have been following The Goosebumps Crew for a while now, our very first episode here on the podcast was our review of the At The Time recently concluded season 1. Now we are back after all this time to review the brand new season 2 of this new Disney Goosebumps reboot. And just a little history here.

[00:03:28] As I said, the season got teased back in February, just saying that it was renewed for season 2. Shortly after, we learned that some of the new casts would include David Schlimmer as Dr. Brewer, and some of the new teen cast members would be supposedly filling out, stay out of the basement for this season. They had said that the new season was going to follow a completely different cast, new story, new location, and all that jazz, plus new book adaptations.

[00:03:57] Going off of our thoughts on season 1, they were not all that pleasant. Me, personally, I was a little more meh on the season, though I leaned towards not liking it. Bjorn and Nick, on the other hand, did not like it at all. I don't think one iota. Overall, it came down to the writing, and just the overall direction that they decided to go with this new reboot. We are very fond, of course, being fans of mostly the 90s era,

[00:04:27] of the 90s Goosebumps show, which was a full adaptation. Every episode was a brand new story. This new season tried to go the more continued, throughout the season storyline, with adaptations of the books throughout, but not only were the adaptations not super faithful, in some cases it was egregious how unfaithful they were. It's like the titles. Yes. Yep.

[00:04:54] Titles that were used as clickbait, basically. And overall, just the overall writing, lots of focus on melodrama, teen romance, love triangles, adultery. What the hell was that doing in Goosebumps? It all screams Goosebumps to me, bro. What are you talking about? I've always said Goosebumps season one feels more like... Don't you remember reading Sign's Greatest Hits? Exactly. You know, about adultery and love triangles,

[00:05:24] and all that stuff? I mean, it was like... Those were the best books ever, bro. Oh, man. It was like something that felt more at home in Fear Street. Like, it was crazy how much it didn't feel like Goosebumps. But at the same time, you know, we did compliment the acting. We did compliment some of the effects done. More namely, the best episode of the season, which was Go Eat Worms,

[00:05:51] had actually a very good concept that I personally feel outdid both the book and the 90s episode, which was surprising. So it has at least that going for it. We really liked Slappy from that season. I feel like this new reboot actually did a good Slappy interpretation with a pretty interesting backstory. What was that? In the beginning, yeah. In the beginning, yeah. But then it kind of devolved.

[00:06:21] So you realize he doesn't do anything. He just kind of... He tells somebody else to do something. Hey, hey, say the words. Say the words. Kill him. Kill him. Okay, well... I mean, I kind of like that, though, because I like Slappy almost being like a manipulator. I like who sort of acts vicariously through others. But your opinion may vary. I like my hands-on Slappy where it's a person wearing a Slappy suit, putting their hands like this,

[00:06:50] going and tripping kids on a rug. That's my Slappy. You have to say Abra-Kadabra. Oh, I love that trick. Hands-on. Hands-on, Slappy. My point is that our opinions on Season 1 were very mixed, very leaning towards that we didn't like it. So there was a lot of skepticism going into Season 2. Of course, we did an episode giving our predictions on Season 2 just a few months ago. And the promotional material was better.

[00:07:20] It made me a little more interested to see this season based on how they cut it all together. But of course, we had to wait until the season dropped to give our full opinion. And the season has dropped. It's been out for a week at this point since the time of recording this interview or this recording. And now it's time to give our thoughts on Goosebumps, The Vanishing. So first thing we're going to do is we're going to start off with our general spoiler-free thoughts.

[00:07:48] We're going to just give our general thoughts on the season. For those of you who have not seen this, we'll keep it spoiler-free for now. But we are going to warn you that we are going to get into spoilers later in this video. We'll make sure to put a timecode up. And of course, we'll give you a spoiler warning. So if you have not seen Goosebumps, The Vanishing, make sure you pay attention to that timestamp. Click off the video, go watch it for yourself, and then come back. But first, we'll keep things spoiler-free. So, Goosebumps, The Vanishing.

[00:08:16] I guess I'll start with my personal opinions. Going into the season, I just wanted this to feel more like Goosebumps because I feel like that was one of my biggest concerns going into this one and definitely one of my biggest detractors from last season. And I personally walked away feeling this was a pretty big improvement over season one. This season is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There are still many, many flaws with it,

[00:08:43] most of which we'll get into in our spoiler section. But going over the things I did like, I do feel like they leaned more into the sort of campy, gross aspect of Goosebumps. There's a lot of creepy monsters in this season, lots of goop. There's goop everywhere. Very in tune with the Goosebumps sort of slimy nature. I do feel the adaptations, while still not incredibly faithful, some of them, I feel,

[00:09:13] are either take away more things from the books than last season did, or they recontextualize it in a way that works for what they're going for. There is an episode that deals with a heavy format change that actually, I feel, improves the overall nature of that story in a sense. It's still heavily changed, but for, again, for what they're going for the season, progressing that story, I feel like it works.

[00:09:42] I feel the overall narrative is much more flowing. There is not a whole lot of breaking from the narrative like there was in season one, because in season one, you had the Harold Biddle story. That was the big skeleton of the season. But then, of course, you had all, as the affirmation, teen drama, romance, love triangles. You had all the stuff with the adult characters. A lot of that's toned down this season. The teen characters, I feel, are much better,

[00:10:12] much easier to follow. I feel like they're not as stereotypical, in a sense. I feel like they're more interesting to follow in terms of their arcs. They have clear arcs that they go through. And I do think that there are more episodes this season that I enjoyed more than last season. So, overall, I ended up giving it a 7 out of 10. It may be possible, though, I'd bump it down to a 6.5 for reasons that we'll get into

[00:10:42] in spoilers. But I did feel like this season had a much more clear goal. I feel like it leaned into some of the more campy aspects a little more. And I felt that the characters, particularly David Schwimmer as Dr. Brewer, some of the character performances were much better. And I just felt like it was an overall entertaining yet flawed experience. So, I ended up giving it a 7 out of 10.

[00:11:12] Bjorn, let's go to you first. Now, again, as I said, you did not like season 1 at all. And I know you weren't particularly looking forward to season 2. How did you end up walking away from this season? Well, like with season 1, I, yeah, it just didn't feel like goosebumps. Goosebumps, you know, and a lot of people were trying to tell me interesting enough, how can you be a Goosebumps fan if you don't enjoy this? And I'm like, that's ridiculous

[00:11:42] being told I can't be a Goosebumps fan because I'm not enjoying something that isn't Goosebumps. Do you know what I mean? So, that was really just stupid. And, like we agreed, I think Go Eat Worms was the strongest other than Night of the Living Dummy episode. Well, part 1, part 2 sucked. So, yeah, like that's how I felt about season 1. And then going into this season, I was like, I was just not keen on it at all because I was

[00:12:12] just burnt too hard with season 1 and I just didn't even want to give this one a chance. And, but then when I heard David Schwimmer was going to be in it, I was like, that's interesting because I like Friends. I like David Schwimmer. I think he's a, I think he's a, you know, he plays the goofball really well and I think he might accent that well into this. So, he actually was the standout for me in this season. You know, I think a lot of the kid actors though were all really good too.

[00:12:42] A lot of the teens. I just think that's what made this better for me was the, the performances from the actual actors and the teens was so much better than season 1. It was very cringy in season 1. There was a couple good performances like, particularly Ben Koppel as Harold Biddle. I think he was probably the standout of all the kids but this season I think they were all good. Like, I didn't really think any one of them was, you know, doing a bad job. I think they all did really well

[00:13:11] and I do like that it went more the goofy gross because it did, it did feel a little more like goosebumps because of that and season 1 just, yeah, it just, it was lacking in so many areas that it just felt so, you know, bland and lackluster and I mean, although there were some creepy moments, this one kind of had the creepy moments but also the gross side of goosebumps so I liked that. I liked the little references to certain things but obviously won't get into that

[00:13:40] until we talk about our spoilers because some of them are actually really fun but yeah, no, I think this season overall was definitely better so I kind of ate my words a little bit. I did watch the first two episodes and I was kind of disappointed but then I started again, I watched them and then I went through the whole thing and then by the end I kind of went, okay, that was a step up. Like, it was definitely a step up. Yeah, there's things that are flawed that I would have definitely changed

[00:14:09] but it felt more like goosebumps like I give season 1 a 4 out of 10. This season I give a 5.756 like, you know what I mean? So this one passed for me. It definitely passed because yeah, there was definitely things I really enjoyed and there was other things that I just were like, I don't know but what made the season better was it flowed better and also the performances from the actors

[00:14:38] were definitely more top tier, you know, just very believable, a lot more believable especially when you got Anthony McCarthy, Andrew McCarthy son in there playing Devin. That was pretty awesome. I mean, obviously we know him from like Pretty in Pink and all those films back in the 80s so kind of cool that his son was in this but yeah, so I did enjoy the season more. It was more enjoyable. Yes. Well, that's the thing. It's like, I agree.

[00:15:08] I just, I sat there and I was way more interested in the season than season 1 because season 1 was so jerky with the narrative that it just kind of turned me off a lot of the time. It was just kind of like so many things to follow, so many other characters. This season cut down the number of characters. It cut down on the, you know, subplots that didn't add to the overall narrative. Even some of the vignettes still tied in with the bigger picture. so it just felt

[00:15:38] more tied together. It didn't feel like it was just jumping around from place to place and thus it allows you more time to flesh out things that wouldn't have been otherwise. Yeah. It felt more binge worthy. Like, I felt like when I was watching it I was like, I can actually sit through and watch the whole thing. Season 1 I kind of would watch 2 or 3 and then I'd be like, eh, I'm having a break. And then I'd watch 1. I will give this season credit and I was a little skeptic about it at first

[00:16:06] but dropping the full season at one moment instead of doing 5 and then each subsync episode every week I felt helped it more because the thing with season 1 was like you had the first 5 episodes the same day and then you had to wait the next week for the next one and then the next week and then the next week and it was just it kind of added to the disappointment of when 1 is bad because you're like you're hoping praying that things start to turn around and then it doesn't and then you're just like I waited a whole week for that freaking crap

[00:16:38] and also major props to keeping a full story from beginning to end and not pivoting so hard in the last 2 episodes like season 1 did because season 1 honestly here's something Is that a Ross joke? Well, no but maybe an unintentional one No, my what my point is and again we'll get more into it in spoilers I actually feel this season would have benefited

[00:17:08] from 10 episodes whereas I felt season 1 should have cut the last 2 episodes and kept it at 8 because season 1's story essentially ended at episode 8 but then they're like oh shit we got 2 more episodes so they shoehorned a whole thing in with Slappy and Condu and this giant ritual that involved people being turned into dummies and a big sacrifice and it was like fake horrorland where the fuck did this come from? fake horrorland

[00:17:37] fake horrorland yeah, that's another thing again, clickbait titles welcome to horrorland had nothing to do with horrorland that was I think that was the hope everyone had was like oh my god we do have horrorland coming up though like we're actually gonna get horrorland and then it was like no so it was like why would you do that? like that was the biggest letdown in that entire show was clipbaiting that title to horrorland exactly so I was like well thank you for that but then I kind of thought

[00:18:07] well it's only one episode too like how can they do horrorland in one episode you know but again so I feel like that's finale and then if they were gonna get another season it would be a continuation it would be horrorland for the first episode of the new season and then pick up wherever else but season one's ending felt very and not in like a not in like a goose bumpy way it just felt like it was a blatant

[00:18:37] like tease for another season obviously a season that did not get made because they went the anthology route this season when they said it was gonna be an anthology they didn't mean like the original series it's going more of like an american horror story route of anthology series or it's the seasons that are different stories instead of the episode so hopefully season 3 will be welcome to dead house as the main that'd be cool yeah I actually

[00:19:07] already took took the same story from season 1 and threw it into 2 because you're now it's just a different group of characters spoilers so you still got stuff from the past affecting stuff from today and you're jumping back and forth but you know like you guys already said you know just get my two cents in on this before we move to spoilers it's just exactly what you guys said I mean it's a more coherent story

[00:19:37] it was actually like kept me involved enough to want to keep watching whereas season 1 I was on my phone pretty much 10 minutes into an episode because I was just like bored of tears or just thought this is garbage because again I don't quite remember Stein ever writing adultery stories or you know why are these kids who are supposed to be teenagers look like they're in their mid to late 20s

[00:20:06] I get that shows do this all the time but it was like come on dude I mean the whole point of Goosebumps was you're supposed to have kids going through these stories not adults who are playing teenagers going through these stories that's a part of it I will give credit where credit's due like we talked about for this season the acting in this season was far superior at least for the kids compared to season 1

[00:20:36] now I love Justin Long and no detriment to the actors in season 1 we don't mean this as any disrespect I feel they did I feel like they could you know it's hard to be like sort of a teen actor and they got a bad script have a shit script like no amount I don't like sand and again special like super special shout out to Ben Kacow who I thought actually really did a great job in season

[00:21:06] 1 hopefully can bring him back on I thought you again like I grew up before he was easily my favorite actor from the kids version I mean realistically and I'm not saying that just because he came on our podcast like the reason why I was more than okay with him coming on the podcast because he was my favorite part of the first season like I liked his character I liked his arc he did a great job acting I kind of feel again he got a shit script because

[00:21:35] his story and it's so abruptly in episode 8 when there was two episodes left that they could have fleshed out a bit more and I know I've said it before but the whole turn of his character in that one episode in those five minutes pissed me off so much like just because somebody who's he's no idea who the person is mind you he doesn't know who this person is calls him uh oh what was his nickname his parents gave him something hair bear

[00:22:05] yeah one character who he doesn't really know despite the fact that his parents you know we're trying to turn him back to the good side you know it's like the Anakin story you know the last time that he saw his parents like they were trying to be nice to him and he turned him in the fucking dummies so it was like it didn't work the first time some random some random person he's never really talked to or cares about says hair bear

[00:22:33] and I don't need to folks at home we don't mean to talk about season one so much as is a season two review but I one more thing because it's comparison one thing I do like about season one and I don't know if I mentioned this in our review of season one I actually did like that when somebody turned into a dummy like they're dead like there's no coming back from it like they're just dead I felt that made it a little scarier because

[00:23:02] they're just they're trapped like that forever and they're I didn't even know they were dead until like the end and they were like oh yeah no these people are dead it's like oh okay they never really established that they could have just been turned into dummies and their souls are strapped in there I didn't say it was well but it was just a concept it wasn't I'm just saying it's the adult version like my living dummy was always sloppy would turn dummy but then you come back and you're fine well apart from Zane having still somewhat

[00:23:32] supernatural powers but in this moment it's like no this is more an adult version so you're just gonna die like you're just dead and like that's it I just I thought that was a cool concept could have been explained better but I thought it was a cool concept yeah so going back to season two so you know we talked a lot about the positive so far so it is a much more coherent story it's it's got a lot more it's got a little

[00:24:02] more references to the books than season one does you could tell that the writers did a little more homework this time around when it came to the adaptations they're still not super faithful yeah they just didn't read the blurb at the back of the book yeah they actually read maybe like skimmed through the actual book instead of just the back of the blurb let's say it like that that's some cliff notes but I also think that going off of like just the coherency

[00:24:33] I felt that tying in the adaptations of the books with the overall narrative especially since the overall narrative is based on an adaptation it just made it feel more like goosebumps and basically because how season one did it was like oh Harold Biddle just so happened to be into ventriloquism and cameras and masks and worms and cuckoo clocks and like all these things he just so happened to

[00:25:02] be interested in all these very very niche things and they never explained how any of those items became mystical mystified magical items they just happened to be wanted I guess they just were no rhyme or reason and also those things never come back in the play like the camera the mask the only thing really is the clones but like even then the clones are kind of done away with halfway through the season

[00:25:32] and then the clones personally I know we dog on living dummy part two but I gotta say if there was an episode I hated the most from season one it was cuckoo clock of doom because I mean talk about even I maybe this is blasphemous to say but even haunted mask at least had the bare bones idea of the story and their cuckoo clock there was nothing the only thing was that there

[00:26:02] was a cuckoo clock and there is a somewhat time loop but then it's clones it's clones that they have to multiple times say that they smell like watermelon jelly ranchers like it wasn't funny the first time what makes you think it's gonna be funny the third time so personally that's the episode that pisses me but one thing I will say though is that for all of season two's improvements

[00:26:31] there are still things from season one that carry over and they're just as annoying albeit toned down so we talk about all this teen melodrama there is still some there is still some there there is particularly a love triangle between some of the main characters particularly Devin and his crush Frankie who is dating Trey and

[00:26:58] he does have a good arc I will say these characters go through arcs so like where they may be unlikable at first I feel they become more likable as the season goes on so I will give it that but still I don't go to goosebumps for love triangles I don't go to them for crushes and romance that's not what I go to goosebumps for so it pains me as much as they toned it down

[00:27:28] that they're still there they didn't they should have done away with them not just tone them down so to me they don't add to the story whatsoever no not at all like their relationship stuff that they threw in doesn't tie in to any of that the only relationship stuff that mattered was thankfully the focal point but when you throw that in I feel that's more of a distraction it's like who cares like why there's also an out of

[00:27:58] nowhere romance between cc and alex um that just kind of happened I wasn't thinking that was even where they're going I feel like that's what I feel like that was another forced disney let's throw in a lesbian gay couple thing yeah but they have because they have more it's more just like where did this come from because like no I don't either but they threw

[00:28:28] it in for no reason it came out of nowhere it wasn't like they were talking over the summer or the year or whatever and town no build up no nothing it was just straight yeah yeah it was like it was like where'd this come from they're like kind of at first and then they're like like they're gonna become like

[00:29:12] into the series it was more again just like can't wait to see you again I'm going back home to my mom's but I'll keep in touch how are you with long distance like okay what is happening I was like why why is this here I was like again any love stuff in goosebumps realistically usually you just got the two parents that are clearly married have kids and that's it you know I don't love

[00:29:41] that's the only love thing in goosebumps is the time that I can think about anything like a love plot or anything was how I learned to fly and even then it was just the main character just had a crush on a girl at the most it's like maybe a character will like I don't know I just like there was never anything like this where there was like full on focus on oh

[00:30:11] this character is in love with this character but they're also in love with this character so it's like I need it you get your love triangle and then you get your forced and I say forced because again I don't care if it's lesbian gay I don't care about any of

[00:30:40] like it's a side distraction I guess but yeah what I think it's dumb personally season three I hope that the characters are actually the age like in Goosebumps how old are kids meant to be 12 yeah about like they're clearly pretty so you still have the older people but they got maybe like 14 15 year olds to play the 12 year olds like roughly it was what they

[00:31:10] would do in the original 90s show so I was like you know what or like maybe 13 maybe but they kind of look that little bit older than 12 but they don't look like full-on 20 year olds so I think that's one thing they still need to fix with if they do a season three if they go there is I think the kids need to be aged down and then we probably won't get that love stuff because they're not teenagers so it's like give us younger kids like the age demographic

[00:31:40] the goosebumps and maybe then they can be rid of that we don't need it I think they feel like they have to put it in because they are teenagers I don't know I think it's part of a larger problem and I want to talk more about at the end but I think that's part of a larger problem with young adult show making at this point we're in a very different era from when the original series came out

[00:32:10] and I feel like with the success of certain things like Stranger Things I've heard a lot of people talking about in comparison to this show Riverdale and Riverdale there's certain things that certain companies like to go after because they're popular and I feel like that's being affected in this show in particular not well not in particular this show that goes to what Bjorn said earlier with the formula like they

[00:32:55] go one was rough the first two were pretty good pretty good give me a squid game version of goosebumps like a freaking slappy showrunner of the whole games and it's like yeah give me things

[00:33:25] from season one that are still present here in season three but there were still many things that we liked and this was a very definite improvement over season one much more enjoyable and even my daughter like I told her I was like hey this is actually a watchable season so if you want to watch it because she didn't much care for the first one either

[00:33:55] which says a lot because while she likes goosebumps she's not like an avid fan sad I for the first season either but I told her I would even rewatch this season with you I will never watch the first season again unless I'm being tortured and this is what they torture me with I

[00:34:38] it was good it was a coherent story with good acting again I think David Schwimmer stole the show which isn't a surprise because he's a seasoned actor much like Justin Long and what's her name Rachel Harris she was great I just didn't care for her story arc with the whole adultery crap you

[00:35:08] talked about that that was actually legit good acting and good scenes and it was a good art that's why that episode is so good like not in adaptation but just in general because it had legitimate stakes and it I feel like that's one slip up that season one did better in terms of the parents and kids compared to this one

[00:35:38] like as much as I like all the characters from this season two there wasn't as built of a close connection in my opinion anyway to Ruber and his kids like because I think they were trying to have their own story arcs throughout their interactions were brief they were somewhat apparent lovey but I mean like it wasn't like it wasn't really

[00:36:08] built like what season one's will I think it was will right well yeah Lucas and his mom Lucas and Nora so that relationship I thought was built very well that really good chemistry so you really cared what happened to them in that first

[00:36:38] they're deliberately story wise having the kids and the parent characters and to be fair there's only two parent characters that we really follow this season and it's David Schlumer's character and the cop played by Anna Ortiz those are the two that we really follow and the other parent characters are side characters which is weird like they never really said what happened to Brewer's wife did they I think they just split up right yeah they

[00:37:07] split up and she lives you really just kind of got the indication that's all that happened but no for they kind of allude that I Anthony have a lot of tension between them and that's very much why they split up not on top of that Dr.

[00:37:37] Brewer's got a lot of other problems in his be spoiled go watch the season now Harry dies at the end no he does not Harry Barry but

[00:38:06] check out season that was a running joke with Harry Potter before book seven and the movie came out Harry dies but yeah that's true but let's actually kill Harry but then he's resurrected like we will kill him but then we'll resurrect him so technically

[00:38:36] he didn't lie about Harry dying it was technically true it's like in Pokemon how many times did Ash die like three four throughout the whole show and movies never actually dies Chucky never dies no matter who dies this is your warning to click off the video now go watch Goosebumps Vanishing and come up with your own opinion we liked it we enjoyed it it's a definite step in the right direction so there's your spoiler free review

[00:39:06] last chance here we go we're getting into spoilers to those giving me shit when I did my season one you can't be a Goosebumps fan if you haven't already seen season two if you're a Goosebumps fan you would have seen it already man so I guess to start off spoilers I do want to say that this season does start out pretty slow I thought Stay Out of the Basement Part 1 now to be fair I think starting with a two-parter is better than what they did

[00:39:35] in season one because season one had to start with say cheese and die and in the first episode of a series you have to set up out of and you have to to

[00:40:05] episode so starting with a two-parter episode in this case Stay Out of the Basement you use part one to set things up and then part two is when you start getting into the more interesting aspects and a lot of people I talked to said the same things Stay Out of the Basement part one is boring it's not a great episode it's fine but you know it's it's a way to get yourself

[00:40:35] into part two which is way more enjoyable I've actually seen many people say that Stay Out of the Basement part two is the best episode because it goes into my favorite it is it is a good one it's in my I don't know if I'd say it's my favorite but I'd probably say it's maybe my second favorite maybe I'd say second favorite I'd say it's my silver medal for the season I will say I love

[00:41:05] the opening scene of part two because that's when the part in the trailer where Anthony's picking the worms out of his it's roots it's he cut out that bulb which surprised me they showed even for goosebumps I know they do like the broken bone

[00:41:35] in season one and all this other stuff a bit more gory but a lot of body horror this season which I've very much enjoyed I think they did a very good job with that but him actually cutting his arm getting that giant bulb out and ripping the what I assume yeah I gotta be I don't think they were arms but I do believe yeah they were like roots like in his skin just ripping them out like oh shit like okay

[00:42:05] here we go no when he no seriously and he bled green he bled green I don't know if you guys noticed that but it was green blood that he was letting out so it's like black green blood he was blooding out it was a much darker green but it was definitely green from what I told but no one makes me bleed my blood grabbing that scalpel and just going in like just going for it and yeah I actually pulled that

[00:42:35] thing out I personally have trypophobia so I always worry about like just like little things inside like your skin that was you've got worms which we all do I think everyone's got like parasites and worms and shit make me think about that we do like we actually do and yeah you know all stuff lives on our skin and all that stuff yeah and there's people that want to like nick

[00:43:05] yeah yeah yeah every time me so like your fingers clean of some wings and stuff a little more than just that wing sauce brother oh god anyway actually going back quickly to the first episode I thought the cold open was really

[00:43:38] one thing that I will go into a lot in this review is there are some things that are really cool concepts but I feel they needed much more time to explain how it works particularly the green not the green the black goo that is ever so present this season and like I know it's like what it comes from but I don't know like what exactly its goal is or like how many things it can do

[00:44:07] so for instance at the start of this show right before the opening intro Matty gets like all those spores in him and he does like the black like bleeding eyes and then his whole fucking face disintegrates like just melts into a black skull and it was awesome but what so did he die like I don't really understand like I wanted to do that to

[00:44:37] him but not to not to Devin or and I'm like there's other people who get that or you know I don't know it's really weird like it seemed to affect everybody differently and maybe that was their goal wasn't really explained it affected the brewer different and yeah it wasn't really explained it's just a an alien parasite yeah it's really all you can get from that I suppose well that's the thing it's like the whole the whole thing so I guess we'll get

[00:45:07] it out of the way so basically this whole thing is tied in with an alien ship that crash landed on earth back in the 60s and it's being held at this government facility that they call Camp Nightmare um some crazy bitch yeah and so this ship was terrible at her job well this this whole ship was the product of an experiment back in 1960 something

[00:45:36] and uh there was a group of scientists led by one scientist let's talk you his daughter and then just a group of other scientists and they were essentially trying to figure out what this living ship it's a ship that is basically a creature and what it wanted made that like um they could have made that like the body squeezes or something like they could have even tied that in if they wanted to well they actually titled that last episode invasion of the body squeezers

[00:46:05] they did so actually one thing i'll bring up really quick like i was just watching well they they just finally released that title today i think so i didn't know how was i supposed to before we actually get into more of the episode details i do want to bring this up before the season dropped um they released a reel that was like a title reveal they did this for season one too where they basically revealed all the titles

[00:46:35] for each episode and they fucked us over with it and yes and this season they did the first six and then they blurred the last two episode seven was supposed to be called egg monsters from mars it ended up being welcome to camp nightmare but you that's fine that's fine gaslight me and and to be fair episode seven is more akin to camp nightmare than it is the egg monsters

[00:47:04] so if it were called egg monsters i probably would have felt ripped off regardless don't tease me like that because i was excited but uh yeah episode eight was supposed to be titled invasion of the body squeezers for the last few days or the last the first few days that the season was up it was just called episode eight like it wasn't even titled eight i think it was ep8 wasn't it just yeah something like that so basically just an untitled

[00:47:34] episode until today i don't know if it was a mistake or they were intentionally trying to like keep it a secret to uh you know save the twist but that's cool though because like at least we now know like that is what's tied in because i thought that's what it was i just didn't know because that wasn't the title and now that you're telling me that is the title as of today i'm like okay that makes sense now they did tie in the government facility thing from camp nightmare and with body squeezes as like the

[00:48:03] so you know it it makes sense now and it actually kind of makes it better in a way maybe maybe my 5.7 part five just went to a 6.25 oh turn here now folks you want to change the score on on air it changed my score because it kind of like knowing that now just kind of makes it that just that fraction of a hair better like well and i will get more into it is like um because i feel that finale is certainly a

[00:48:33] better finale than season one but it's still oh yeah it still is very flawed and i feel like there are many questions left unanswered and the reason i brought all that up to begin with is that the the goo and just the overall alien being just has a lot of unanswered questions on what it can do what its properties are so going back to uh you know that the cold open of episode one it's like yeah maddie's face fucking melts and

[00:49:03] it's a cool scene but it's like okay so are these are the teens all dead are they is it just are they turning into goo and that's how they get in the pods like it's it's weird it's too open-ended is my point but um but it makes for a cool scene i guess it was weird and like why i keep them in the pods for that long like at first i thought they were being put in the pods because they were going to be uh like their life was going to be drained and it was going to feed the ship or something but they don't

[00:49:33] explain why they're potted uh other than just the fact that they get turned into these like alien dog monsters later um i mean it's probably the most and then all of a sudden they're back to human again and then they're like hey we're leaving with them they said it's cool so peace homie yeah

[00:50:03] that's like wait what what why they didn't talk to you for like 30 years you guys were annoying as shit so they potted you up so they wouldn't talk to you you had the stupid expression on your face for 30 years first of all they all ended up like that why were they on the pod like that well it's also like um dude come on so it was really such a weird ending there's a there's a scene walking from camp

[00:50:33] nightmare they could have used jack-o'-lanterns could have been like the jack-o'-lanterns actually were like gonna eat them i don't know well yeah see i would have been oh no because they could have done that like they calmed down with their funny little puppet hand like heads and then they're they're they're uh we were just we were just smoking them for 30 years we were putting them in like a smoker smoking them it was just it was a smoking pod like you know like you know smoking they were just they were just wiping them

[00:51:02] like to be really nice and you just gotta eat them like there's a scene from camp nightmare where apparently like one of because basically the first thing that gets potted is a counselor from camp nightmoon okay thank you for doing that camp nightmoon thank you god thank you you know they did more homework there are just little references that they sprinkle in here and there camp nightmare they named the actual camp

[00:51:32] camp nightmoon and the cold open of episode seven is a counselor taking a bunch of kids over to a cliff and that's when the ship crashes and it pulls the counselor in and he's the first one to get potted which made no sense either because they said that the ship was acting like this because it was feeling threatened and trapped but that counselor didn't do a damn thing all he did was look over there oh that's cool he's gone

[00:52:02] he's gone he didn't even do anything and then the reveal later that it's like oh the ship is the ship just wants to be let free and it's like like it's friendly it's like friendly my ass like it trapped all these people like my brother was dead for 30 years yeah it's like I don't know and by the way like I know they titled the episode not the ghost next door it was the

[00:52:31] girl next door which was really weird because that it's like a movie title from back in the day it was a good movie but like it was based on the whole plot point was a porn star moved next door to this kid so you know just saying probably not the best title to change this from the ghost next door to the girl next door but they also changed it to the boy who cried monster which I understand because it was the whole concept of I think it was

[00:53:02] Devin CJ was Trey or the CJ who by the way was a monster besides besides dr. brewer CJ is best character like that dude was awesome from the first moment he appeared so they changed the titles to fit their story which okay I mean I kind of I kind of can at least it

[00:53:44] but why nobody else could do that why didn't Maddie show up and be like oh what's up stink yeah I'm trapped down here bro why don't you come help me out yeah I'm stuck

[00:54:14] hope so this season is a definite step in the right direction and I hope that I hope that these creators are listening to criticism because I feel like they did a little less of that the titles won't clickbait they're actually giving us a little more references here and I think they did listen a bit more this time around and they gave a little goof with the spooky I shit you not and

[00:54:44] I don't remember what episode but there was literally a few times where they used the motif from the opening of the 90s intro like a synth version I think it was in camp nightmare but it's like a few times and I'm like I heard that yeah there was that scene in the library where there's all the books did you guys notice any references in the background

[00:55:14] of that one because obviously remember in season one when they're in the library there was literally goosebump books on the shelf there was even the goosebump movie novel because Rob Lederman did the movie I want to go back to that library scene in this season and see if we can spot any goosebump books hiding in the background and I feel like I like those sorts of things I

[00:55:54] I wasn't looking looking in the more focused on the foreground and what they were doing in those moments because a lot of stuff typically was happening in the foreground I wasn't really looking in the background you could have had a kid reading a goosebump book in the background literally that would have been cool and I would have picked with the OG cover that would have been a really cool little I like when they do things like that in Goosebumps most kids bedrooms had Goosebump

[00:56:23] books on the shelf in the back room TV it was like an amalgamation of other episodes mixed together oddly enough werewolf fever swamp if that's rare than the sneak preview little freaking tales to give you book I tell you not if that is a

[00:57:12] bulb thing out of his arm and he immediately starts testing the spores that he gets hit with also take over some of the plants so that's the whole thing where they're wrapping around his arms and pulling them around and all that stuff so basically it's like the spores take over everything and then what ends up happening is he starts

[00:57:42] blossoms open into a flower and he finds out it's carnivorous and he's freaking out and he's like I'm going to be right back and he goes and gets mice like dead mice and the thing just devours it and it just makes these disgusting sounds like just like it's really which also baffles me the Trey situation because as Trey

[00:58:12] goes into the basement and starts jacking it up after Brewer like awesomely smashed his car window yeah that whole scene was satisfying because at that point I really hated Trey so the actor did a good job so but when he's starting to trash the basement and all sudden the carnivorous bulb

[00:58:41] pulls Trey in I'm like yes he's dead but supposedly not and I'm just I can't figure out why and then he turns into a giant mud monster that was an awesome design though like I love that monster so much that was cool they should have done more with this

[00:59:12] is definitely better than season one like that when that thing appeared I the more horrifying thing is that is him

[00:59:41] like he I was almost thinking like his fucking skin got like melted off and he's just like this this being and I was like that is really scary like it look Trey's character at first is a horrible which is what I thought happened to Maddie and I just having the same kind of monster you know the goop

[01:00:11] turns him into this monster yeah it didn't really go anywhere other than the haunted car episode which was actually pretty good they used to have a down

[01:00:41] there was like there was a cat and 21 savage and sabrina carpenter and I'm like but then yeah there is dewey by system of a down but then you get system of properties of this alien substance because it's like yeah you

[01:01:11] think that's Trey like he's dead or he just like emerged as this ghoul and I was kind of vimal with that I'm like wow this series is not above killing these characters in gruesome ways mind you and it goes the and there's one scene where he's like scrape

[01:01:41] he's trying to get her to scrape all the stuff off yeah it's more of that body horror it's just like goop she's scraping off but it that was the moment like something would emerge from devin

[01:02:11] and either like start attacking him or they would just like team up kind of a deal at that point because they're both under control of the goo oh yeah yeah I forgot about that there is a scene where the plants drag devin into the sewer and they implant one of those bulbs into his mouth yeah well

[01:02:43] his head was all and he was bleeding from his eyes the goop and stuff so he was infected way before that like he was the first one of those kids to be infected and then but Trey got the worst and I guess because of that bulb plant that was in there that didn't eat him and maybe it just bonded with him I really don't know what the hell happened in that Fraser but yeah and then yeah and then Devin comes to try to save

[01:03:13] Frankie he just the Trey creature like just starts trying to had a huge smile on my face I'm like this is kind of awesome I didn't know the haunted car could swim well and also yeah so basically

[01:03:43] what leads into the haunted car and again I like that this season does this because everything leads into another so crushing the Trey I mean like the kombucha turned into a I want to get to the monster blood after the haunted car because I have some things to say about the monster blood but the haunted car episode

[01:04:12] there's a few people who put it on the bottom of their ranking it is an episode that deals with another character in this case Alex and a little bit with Cece who is Devin's sister and why they didn't just keep Casey and Margaret I just don't understand

[01:04:42] the reasoning behind that it made no sense why they changed the name Eleanor and everything oh but yeah man the Anthony because their aunt is having surgery like did you guys catch that oh my god that was a reference yes again

[01:05:12] little things little things and then also one thing we forgot to mention is that Anthony is dealing with his mother having dementia so it's another thing that's adding to his stress my career as a botanist on hold so I could take care of my mother and she's basically there is a funny thing one of the creepiest jump scares and the whole one that actually got me was when they're visiting

[01:05:42] you know Dr. Brewer's mom in the senior home and like her and Devin are just sitting on the couch and she's like hi how are you doing he's like oh I'm doing fine and then she is like are you where Maddie you smell like him so that's another whole aspect is that basically Maddie's disappearance kind of really really affected

[01:06:13] both Dr. Brewer and the grandma character so but going back to the haunted car so basically the sludge goes into the car and takes it over and I mean you would think that it's haunted by Trey and it's the haunted car so Alex basically is someone who just got out of juvie she was framed for an arson that set a whole building on fire and she's very resentful of her mom who's one of

[01:07:04] the one of them people you're my least favorite character it kind of saved it because then the shop owner does the same thing and is like now I'm live streaming and then she's like whoa okay okay if someone did that to me I'm sorry if someone did that to me just pulled out a phone and started filming I would knock it out of their hand man I wouldn't even care I I'll start posing and

[01:07:33] then I would start my only food live stream moving on so no so Alex is a character has a lot of setup in haunted cars so I feel like that's maybe why many people aren't gravitating towards it because it kind of she has a lot of for mom so she ends up

[01:08:03] stealing Trey's car which is possessed by the alien goop and it leads into the whole thing where the car is controlling itself and she can't stop it and all while playing System of a Down which was awesome just like playing System of a Down while the so that was a really nice

[01:08:33] throwback to the 90s too if you know what I'm talking about yeah I had to do it back in the day you phone but it's the same thing they had a

[01:09:03] cassette player so you had a cassette to USB and that's how they played off their phone so that's what I know personally but the whole haunted car thing won't dwell on it they're chasing them on a

[01:09:33] bike and it's getting closer and closer and then it veers and crashes into a pole and then it fixes itself it just like the metal goes right back in the place and it turns back on I didn't do anything that interesting

[01:10:03] it drove around with Slappy in it he wasn't controlling it his feet didn't reach the brakes I was about to say his feet didn't reach the brakes it literally was just Slappy's ride to get around so he could get places where he needed to go didn't need the haunted car man he just thought Mary Ellen

[01:10:33] might have come out I better look cool for her you noticed that he didn't release her from the books oh no he wouldn't I I mean it wasn't a terrible episode but it was not one of the

[01:11:03] great ones either it was neat I wasn't a fan of the fact that like when it it

[01:11:32] was like as much as the marketing hindered on the botany and the plant stuff it's really only in stay out of the basement the focus is mostly on the goo like it's very much goo and spores goop centric season but uh goosebumps the goop steps I should have called it goosebumps the goop not the vanishing goop bumps

[01:12:02] haunted car is an okay episode it's a vignette sort of episode even monster blood was only okay I'd probably rank those two probably on the lower end of the episode that's how I feel too it was a bad episodes they're okay um monster blood I would say I a little bit of the spores on cc's

[01:12:32] kombucha cup and from what I've been told the monster blood in this show is basically living kombucha it is that just makes it all the more reason why at least if it was green I think would have been all right honestly they had no wash their cup green who doesn't wash their cup this girl gets her person crazy driver who she

[01:13:02] apparently had no love interest with but then all sudden does later whatever um but she's like oh by the way here's your cup she could have spit in that and was like that's kind of funny

[01:13:32] but um no scene was in the honestly the best scene was the subway for me so here's the thing the reason why monster blood is on my lower end is because it's kind of a slog it deals a lot with CC's character in particular it kind of shows that because she's talking a lot about debate camp at first in the first lying because she's surrounded by people who are girl

[01:14:02] bosses um sort of people who are like oh look at how much cool stuff I do like ah slay queen that you know that stuff that I don't get into personally but um it sort of sets up expectations for herself that she dogs on herself a and then she goes to an interview that she ends up like

[01:14:32] having a nosebleed and actually I thought it was going to be sentient blood like yeah basically what ends up happening is because I thought it was going to be like sentient blood like I really thought that's what it was going for at least it was the effects and she goes home and she just

[01:15:01] up chucks the kombucha and then it ends up coming to life as this giant blob and that's when the episode gets good that's the whole chase sequence with the monster blood itself is very good it's a really tense sort of chasing and when it gets to the subway I feel like it's a really good climax it just kind of wish the right texture of monster

[01:15:31] blood like what we saw kind of from the 90s show that weird like shiny you know just like this amber color I was really confused I

[01:16:01] mean maybe they mixed that was the color you got yeah I guess maybe that's what it why

[01:16:31] is there so much focus on kombucha like I've never even had kombucha like is this a thing that Gen Z likes now well she gives it to that he gives some to that to what's her name again Al she was like this is weird and I'm like yeah it is kind of gross kombucha like it's just healthy but it tastes and there is a lot of flavors so I guess

[01:17:01] if you find the flavor that you can get used to like then you'll enjoy I will say that is one thing I will give them credit for on two is that they at least kept Hannah's name from Ghost Next Door Why couldn't they just do that for other characters I don't know but they kept it for Hannah the second time we got Hannah in a Rob Letterman produced Goosebumps product so

[01:17:31] we've had her in every movie too so yeah I mean that kind of made sense Hannah in the 90s show we've had climax I feel like you'll get in the monster blood through primarily the last 15 minutes everything

[01:18:05] before then is kind of a slog and same thing with haunted car everything that's not revolved around the haunted car is probably going to be boring for you but trust me when it gets to those parts they're enjoyable in their own right I feel like this season pulled off those moments better than season one did and season one I feel like when it got to the sort of adaptation like the camera stuff and slappy I felt it did a good job but this season does it

[01:18:35] consistently better which is an improvement but then we get to the boy who cried monster besides the weird title few things I feel this episode does really good number one it starts with CJ telling monster or in this case ghost stories to his younger sibling basically just to kind of talk about why he didn't perform his delivery because they set up that he's not which is a good throwback

[01:19:05] in my little things like that makes this season just little things like that it's not even a big thing a little thing like that makes the season far superior to the first one for those reasons yep I agree well and

[01:19:35] also just because he does it yeah like what the fuck dude like don't do that man they do that did you see the guy that like does uber eats or something and he was taking little bits out

[01:20:19] is worth the car trip please you don't want other people handling your food yeah you don't know what they've got where they've been but that can be said for the people who are

[01:20:50] anyway um boy cried monster uh is a heavily anthony focused episode i feel but it works for the adaptation because cj is the main kid character here and he is tasked with going to deliver to dr brewer and dr brewer is really really sick and then cj sees him with his fucking eyeball hanging out

[01:21:19] which is awesome i just love that and that was cool i wasn't sure what was going to happen i thought at that point ruder was just completely taken over and he was going to like turn and have like you know this really crazy like monster face so just the droopy eye hanging out after he sneezed was kind of funny and a little bit of a surprise at the same time because it was not what i was like i

[01:21:49] it's funny though like the running gag which i think is kind of neat like i think it's even the last line in the show it was just like oh that's not good yeah just looking at like a really horrifying body thing and just be like oh that's not good but um no and then he's like and then he's putting it back in like it again the body horror is ewe and a lot of scenes um but uh yeah so cj sees this and he goes and tells his mom

[01:22:19] he's like mom dr brewer's eye was freaking hanging out um so it's like oh so now but they're not gonna believe him but it's actually even more sinister but it's more sinister too because he goes back and he does sort of the mortman thing where he's like like being all weird now and he's just kind of like oh no i'm fine but he's like oh you know these kids now he's all cleaned up dress nice now his

[01:22:48] hair is also yeah he's like he's looking all good and then he's like oh these kids you know they're getting all these crazy ideas these days about monsters he's like you know might as you should probably keep an eye on him it's he's doing like the mortman thing which i love um and then later he ends up calling cj and he's like hey you know i feel really bad i think i can help you get your job back with your mom like come on by like i'll explain things more and then he ends up

[01:23:18] freaking kidnapping him he ties him up in the basement and which i think was kind of neat actually because they they they played with the concept of stay out of the basement instead of having like a plant version of brewer and the human version that's trapped down in the basement now it's just like they're in the same body because he doesn't remember calling me he's like i called you he's like

[01:23:44] yeah yeah he's like going in and out of it he's like he's like oh you should go and he is like you should go and he just grabs him and brings him in so it's like he's not well no yeah he's like body but he's it starts with him being like go and then he's like run run and then he grabs him like so it's like split personality it's like what it was like kind of like yeah it's like he can see what's happening but he can't control the driver's seat like it's really interesting that they they

[01:24:12] chose that avenue rather than just having brewer replaced with a plant monster exactly so now i guess it saves on money it was our body double and no cgi to put them in two places even though the 90s show did but yeah but uh basically what he ends up doing and this show as we said body horror

[01:24:37] is great and one thing they loved doing in this season is vomit so dr bird buys cj up and is like hey i just need to do one thing he grabs a little cup and he just and then he's like drink this i'm like oh my god because it's like it'll taste just fine

[01:25:02] it's almost like the exactly it's almost like doing the scene from the 90s episode with the weird green oatmeal stuff but it's with your vomit you got your spoons and yeah but instead it's like just drink this shit yeah drink it it's like everyone will know and even then like he was like hovering over like over his face and was just gonna like oh god transfer from his mouth to him his teeth are like

[01:25:31] like a mother bird feeds her babies that's all i'm doing yeah that's all he's doing uh this is so yeah his teeth were black and uh why does it make me think of ace ventura when like he feeds the bird and he's like hungry fella yeah there you go and he like gets a little like napkin like the mouth and goes there you go little fella

[01:25:58] made me think of that immediately for some reason oh god it didn't me but it will now when i watch this again well like that was a super super uncomfortable i think that's way funnier than pet detective i'm sorry yeah it is funny i love both that whole thing that's the right i've seen is the greatest gross sort of like just it was a really creepy scene and uh i i thought this episode did really

[01:26:26] well with that while also incorporating both stay out of the basement and girl cried monster um i think it's probably my third favorite uh i do like part uh part two stay out of the basement and uh girl next door is actually i think might be my favorite and we'll get into that in just a sec um but also and then the episode ends with all the kids going down in the basement and they see this

[01:26:52] and trey i think uh oh yeah by the way they bring trey back uh funnily enough they find oh he's okay um and he ends up going through like this arc where he's like i'm a changed man i'm changed um he does start acting less like an asshole so i at least will give him props for that but uh no so trey comes in with a crowbar and whacks dr brewer's head off and then his head's just laying

[01:27:20] on the ground and being like oh hey hey everybody it's just like david shimer was so perfect because of his like weird goofy like voice i think it just works well for like those kinds of scenes like having that yeah yeah that was very goosebumps right there because he's even like still like telling jokes from down there he's just like hey somebody want to give me a hand and the kids are

[01:27:45] like just freaking out they're like oh my god it was so good i'm sorry guys like the more i talk about like these parts of the show i'm like i don't care you know what there's flaws but like man i had a good time funny enough like there were just parts where i'm like this is kind of cool um season three i hope we get um a little bit more of this and maybe like i'm just trying to think like because like

[01:28:14] obviously say the basement was like the main focal point like what would season three be what would we pick just horror land god's sake uh people have said either camp or when i've talked to people yeah as i say when i've talked to people like i told them i was like if they're going to do something like that i would really like a full camp theme season because there's enough camp stories that stein has done where they could adapt it you could just do them all yeah really um and then

[01:28:42] somebody was like well they could also do like a whole halloween season which of course i would love um but yeah i mean the one thing i wasn't really talking about you could just do a whole horror land season and truthfully that's what the first season probably should have been is they could have really taken into the horror land book series where you had the haunted mask and you you could have slappy and all this stuff and they're at horror land or whatever you know you can figure out a way to

[01:29:09] make this work but so sadly i don't think we'll ever get horror land movie or series if we do i'd be shocked because the series has already had an episode titled horror land where i so i don't think they'll do it again it was called wasn't it we need one day welcome tomorrow yeah yeah it's the right title oh welcome yeah like yeah you could literally have a camp themed season so you'd have

[01:29:38] camp night moon you could have ghost camp you could have my cam jelly team because that could be like your big monster you could have that was actually one of the ones that uh was at the forefront of what some people were saying was jelly jam yeah because they want to they want to see a live action buddy people just want to see the books that were never adapted at all so like ghost camp and jelly jam both have not ever been done so it's like give us books that we've never seen even ones

[01:30:05] like like fright camp or camp slither like you know you could do all of them into one like how many do they do per season like five or six different like like incorporate them pretty much like just about every camp book you could incorporate like you could do them all rolled into one you know so that would be that'd be cool you could have uncle i was a counselor you could have buddy as a counselor you could have like all the counselors are just the different ones from each book but they're in one

[01:30:34] place you know i don't even have it where it's like a multi like multiple camps in one area so it's like maybe like you have i mean think think of uh like heavyweights yeah heavyweights had multiple camps you just run across the lake from each other you know what i mean so they could just do the same concept here you can't not over here you have camp jelly jam over here you have can't you know like all of them just every like yeah like different sides of the thing but they and then

[01:31:03] they somehow come to like the main characters somehow come and then you could even incorporate the curse of camp cold lake you know have the lake in the middle of all these camps the lake is in the middle yeah exactly so you have everything there you go that's the like that's the the center of it all is cold you're welcome to take this off from us rob letterman because i doubt i'll let you go from goosebumps franchise for some reason but i will say at least this season again higher marks than the

[01:31:30] first one so if you keep on this trend i may not start the hashtag fire rob letterman anymore well one thing i also want to see more of is what they did in episode six the girl next door so in episode five they start showing off uh this girl named hannah who takes a liking to devon in a very creepy way and of course it ties in with the ghost next door and this episode has a heavy found so we we knew

[01:31:58] going in that there was going to be a found footage episode um thought it was going to be camp nightmare but it actually was ghost next door and i actually think this might be my favorite episode um i really think the format was done well it was actually directed by uh one of the one of the directors of blair witch um so it explains why you know blair witch project might be original 90s one i think so

[01:32:23] i would have to double check but i'm pretty sure but um it's done it's done really well i think the format was really well done it takes up most of the episode and it is a way to find out more about the kids that went missing so you learn more about them without them taking up the entire show um and actually when they go when hannah because hannah's the one operating the camera

[01:32:48] and when they get to the part where that's shown in episode one the cold open she like falls into the hole and she starts exploring like what is below there and it's very creepy like there are moments that are genuinely unnerving when she first finds the pods with all the kids in there and then also the alien uh the alien creature that's like sneaking around yeah i wish i would have shown that a bit

[01:33:15] more like i i don't they never really give us a good glimpse of obviously which is fine odds that adds to that imagination of what is it kind of a deal but at the same time they didn't capitalize on that very much either like it was very isolated to the episode and then later was like what about the monster down there she's like oh i killed it it's like yeah but i thought that this episode was it

[01:33:40] an alien from the ship was it like a mutated person like what what the hell was it like i wish i would have given us something yeah that's it it's was not really that's what i was hoping was going to happen because this episode started like explaining some things about like what happened back then so i was like okay now we're starting to get to the point where we're finding out more and it's basically

[01:34:05] here where it's confirmed that it's aliens um but it was super well done i thought it was shot really good i think it's probably the scariest episode um i don't know if you guys agree with that i thought this one was definitely the one that had the most unnerving nature to it uh in a sense i don't know i'll probably wait to make those kind of selections until i actually watch it through again

[01:34:29] um when i have my daughter here and we watch it together um i don't know what it would make sense because uh you were correct that is uh eduardo sanchez and he was the director of the original flare witch project and he directed this episode cool so i do like it even though it's like the most loved and hated horror film which is interesting which i can kind of see like at the time

[01:34:57] when that film released it was unique and it was very creepy and it was i think great at the time but it doesn't hold up very well trying to watch that today yeah um because again you know i like to introduce my daughter to certain horror and things like that and she loves horror movies and i was like oh you might like this one you know because we like some found footage movies doesn't hold up very

[01:35:23] well she was bored to tears and i was like i get it it's a very divisive sort of movie you're not seeing this in the movie theater it's not one of the first of its kind anymore it's kind of outdated in terms of what they did in the film given the budget i i get it you know i like personally found footage of like things like late night with the devil which i actually watched recently and i love

[01:35:48] yes that that was a good that was a good i think is fantastic um i think they should do a slender man found footage film i think that would work i remember that it's a slender man movie so i think they did they did a movie they did a movie they did a slender man movie it was like hair i think it would work better as a found footage slender man i don't know i think that to me would be better as a found footage film. I don't know. That's why I like the original

[01:36:17] source material, the Marble Hornets stuff that was out on the internet all those years ago. Those were found footage style and those were really good. I remember watching those with my friends. It was great. I feel like you can make that sort of format in the Slenderman game into a found footage sort of horror film. The game was really good too, yeah. There's so many of them out there, but if we're thinking about the same Slenderman game, yeah. Going back to Goosebumps,

[01:36:47] this episode does the found footage. How did you do kombucha, by the way, Nick? I forgot to ask. Just make sure you don't... I'm not drinking kombucha. This is my mango green tea. Just make sure whatever you're drinking doesn't come up as a slime monster. I do have kombucha in my fridge because I do take it, but not very often because I don't like the taste. What's your flavor of kombucha? This is a new one I haven't tried yet, though. It's like peach something. I'll have to look at it again. That might be alright.

[01:37:17] So far, I've only found one I like, and it's the raspberry. And even then, it's not the greatest, but it's... Yeah, I'm not a fan of some of them either. They're rough. I don't know what flavor that girl on the show drinks. She loved it to death, though, until she puked up the monster blood. It was funny. She was like, once she puked it up, she was just like, alright, no more kombucha. Never again. No! I don't blame her because usually, like, if I get food poisoning from something, I don't want it again for a long time. I'm a Gen Z drink.

[01:37:47] It's like, the more I think about it, the more there's, like, little lines that are just kind of funny like that because it's like, okay, you've just barfed up all this stuff and you feel like absolute crap and you're just like, alright, no more kombucha. Yeah. Honestly, it's like something you would hear in, like, the 90s show. Like, am I crazy for thinking that? I feel like that's the kind of corny writing that you would hear in the 90s show. So, I don't know. Maybe I'm alone on that hill, but...

[01:38:15] Yeah, so just to wrap up episode six, I thought it was really well done. I thought the found footage was great. I think it was a really well done sort of format change for that episode. And I hope to see more stuff like that, not just found footage, but just, like, change it up a little bit. Even episode seven, it sort of shot almost like a 70s horror film. Did you guys get that feeling? Because it's almost like, you know... I kind of did, but I think they were going for that. I think they were going for that vibe with that one

[01:38:43] because that was the Camp Nightmare episode. Yeah, that was a Camp Nightmare episode. I think that's what they were going for because it was meant to be back in, like, the 60s, 70s era, if I remember right. I can't remember what the exact date was, but I think it was the late 60s. Even the set design is kind of reminiscent of it. It was 69. Almost like Alien. Because, like, Alien was the set. It really was, it was 69. But, uh... Oh, I don't know. Maybe it was.

[01:39:11] I'd have to go back and watch it again as to what year it was. But it was 69! I think it was 68. So... No, no, no. Because then they went, didn't they go, like, six months later? I think it was, no. I think it was, like, five years later. I think it was in the 70s. 74! Well, they had to basically turn the whole thing into a facility, so it couldn't have taken a few months. You know, they did that meme for, like, Spongebob where it's, like, 24. I think it's something funny that 24

[01:39:41] because we're in 2025. I'm like, they must have been waiting 25 years to be able to, like, do that on their, like, social media page. Because it's, like... They can only do it once. They can never do it again. One thing I will say about... I've been seeing that meme everywhere. I just thought that was something somebody made up. I didn't know it was actually from Spongebob, though. Yeah, it's like... I will say about... One of a psychotic ones. Camp Nightmare is that... That episode had a lot of... I personally feel it had a lot of similarities

[01:40:11] to Alien. Sort of in the set design and obviously the fact that it deals with aliens. But especially the climax when all hell breaks loose. Like, it just sort of has that, like, just the monsters are just attacking and they're like, no, he's infected. Leave him. Like, we gotta get out of here. The whole episode is basically a backstory for this one mysterious doctor character that's, like, working about and they're trying to figure out what her deal is.

[01:40:40] And she's basically the daughter of a scientist who is helming the whole project that was studying the alien creature. And the doctor wanted to just destroy it. Like, he was creating a serum that was going to counteract the pod effects and then he was going to inject it into the ship and then just kill it for the sake of humanity. But his daughter and the rest of the crew are like, no, we can't... We don't even know what this thing's, like, priorities are. We don't know if it's even, like, friendly. And I'm like,

[01:41:09] he literally... The thing literally captured a person and is holding it in a state of suspended animation. So it's like... I don't know. I would kill it. That's what I'm saying. Like, if it can... If it has the ability to pod people, if it has the ability to take over people like it did with Brewer, I don't understand why it can't also talk more through those people because even those moments

[01:41:39] Brewer was in the basement, he was like, oh, if you drink this, you'll understand. You'll see. You'll see what I see. So it's like... He's like, everyone will be us. Everyone will be us. Yeah, clearly every person infected could technically be almost like a vessel to be talked through to the people. So why not just be like, hey, man, I'm not looking for trouble. I just want to get the fuck out of here. How would you open this door?

[01:42:07] And I'll release this guy. I don't care about this guy. You know, he was just there. Just open the door and I'm going to leave, okay? We cool. That's cool. No, can't do that, though. Can't do that. I've been stuck here for 40 years. Like, I'm going to miss my shows or something. Like, just let me out. All right. First Prince is going to be on in like 15 minutes. Like, help a brother out. That's cool. But no, so obviously,

[01:42:37] seven and eight, this is the finale of the show and you're like, okay, so we're going to be wrapping things up. By the time you get to episode eight, Invasion of the Body Squeezers, as we found out, whoa, this is where everything comes out. So basically, Dr. Brewer is now in one of the pods along with all the kids who disappeared, including Maddie. And the kids basically go to Camp Nightmare and confront the doctor and are like, you better let us save our dad.

[01:43:07] Like, we're not leaving him. And she's like, okay, I'm going to give you the serum. It'll protect you. And because she's like, I perfected my father's serum. I perfected his formula. Like, it's going to work. So she gives each of the kids one and then one to use on Dr. Brewer. And they go in the hatch and close the door. that they had in this entire show. Worst character. This lady, one,

[01:43:36] was terrible at her job. Couldn't keep anybody out of that damn facility. Kids got in there multiple times. She was literally like, the Brewer family has been making my life harder. Yeah. Like, okay, cool. So you suck at your job. And then, not only that, if she perfected this serum, she could have easily went down there this entire time and done the job herself if she was really that concerned with that spaceship. But she wasn't. She was like, I'm just going to keep it contained. My dad's down there.

[01:44:07] There's other pods down there. Hey kids, why don't you go in there? Go ahead. Go save your day. I'm going to chop you in here forever. I not only chopped up into pieces, and carried him out of your house in a suitcase. And then I melted him in the black goo because he went back to the source. He might be down there. I don't know if he's I did like that. How she, when she came to get him, like she just had like a bowling ball bag and put his head in there.

[01:44:36] That was kind of funny. Like I had a brief or not brief, but a, a suitcase for all his body parts and then there's his head and it's like, okay, well I'm just going to melt you reply to you. Rather than try to save you, you know, I'm just going to melt you away. Doesn't tell the kids that, mind you. It's like, oh yeah, no, like I, you know, I murder-related your father. He's actually, you know, he's gone. I cut him up into pieces and I melted him, you know.

[01:45:06] Sounds more sadistic that way, I guess, rather than just, he's down that hole, go get him. Um, and then locks the kids in there, which is crazy. What? Like you give him the shot to protect them, but then you lock them down there. What was the point? This is definitely where the film starts getting weird with like what the character's goals are. Like, I will say like up into this point, I was getting into it, but when I started getting into the explanation of the

[01:45:35] aliens and what the goals of this, this doctor were and how, you know, like everything sort of fit together, it was starting to get sloppy. Um, the, the overall finale just kind of felt like it was rushed. I feel like, so I, I said this at the beginning and I feel like this season should have been the one to have 10 episodes because I feel like if it had two more episodes to maybe flesh things out a little more,

[01:46:04] explain a few more things, I feel like it would have been a lot better written here. It just feels like they had to really, really wrap it up because so, okay. Cliff notes version. The kids go down there. They use the serum on their dad. He comes out. He's, you know, he's fine. Um, and then they have to find a way to get out because the doctor sealed them in. So they, Trey uses his C plus college education. I thought that was kind of funny because he's talks about how he's going to college,

[01:46:34] but he's just doing. Yeah. he's just passing with average grades. So it's like not even that special, but he basically is like, I'm going to use my education. And then he just destroys a breaker box. That's like basically what he does. So they all get out. It's a really tense scene because the spaceship's awake and it's trying to like get them. It's like using its big, long tentacle and yeah, for a ship that doesn't want to hurt anybody. It sure has a

[01:47:03] tendency to do the opposite. It's trying to F everybody up. Yeah. And they end up getting out and then Brewer ends up going back for all the pod kids. So he brings his brother, Matt, and all the friends, his friends out. And it's like, wait, you can just do that? And everything seems, how did he do it so fast? Yeah. How did get all those kids out? Like, within a matter of seconds. Yeah.

[01:47:33] It was very odd sort of time paradox thing. And at first it seems like this is how they're ending it? They're just all going to get out and there's no repercussions from the doctor? And it's like the Thanos snap. These kids didn't age in 30 years. Yeah. I will say all these kids can't get back from the Thanos snap and they're all the same age. Meanwhile, which I thought was a funny joke. I will, I'll give him props on that one too.

[01:48:03] When Maddie and Stink were talking and he's like, oh, you know, I'm just eating right and exercising and he's like, it's not working. Yeah. It's not from freaking Avengers as well. The relationship between Anthony and is really well done. And I felt that the scene they have where he like is in, they're both in the basement and he sees him for Anthony for the first time. He's all grown up. I thought

[01:48:33] that was actually like a really emotional scene. I thought David Schwimmer and the actor of Maddie did a really good job. because you really feel like that sort of reunion between those brothers. So that was really well done and everything seems good at first. But then like they're like Ana Ortiz's character is like you need to come awake. We need to go find this doctor lady

[01:49:04] because there's something's up and they go back and she apparently has her father there like that apparently her father is also there too and she's like I'm you doing this to bring him back and her father wakes up and he's like what are you doing and he's like I perfected the form is like no no no you have to let it go you have to let it go and then one thing I loved personally is that all the clones are suddenly like this isn't me this isn't me and then they just

[01:49:33] puke up these alien creatures the ones from episode six but there's like a bunch of them now so all him and all the kids transform into these aliens you know when they puke you think it's more like I live in your basement moment I was going to say it's like inside out this is honestly if they turned inside out I would have been so happy because I would have been like oh my god we got an I live in your basement

[01:50:03] adaptation would have been fitting personally keep with the basement name but I and so Brewer and the cop lady have to go back and save them by releasing the alien ship and

[01:50:33] then that allows them to all be released and then all the kids disappeared and the scientists end up passing on with the aliens that was weird love it but yeah so basically it ends with a lot of unanswered questions about why it was doing all this stuff to begin with why the goop had so many powers whatever the ship went away fucked off back to wherever

[01:51:02] it the show ends on a note that I thought was very goosebumps and that's everyone leaves and Trey's about to go back in his house and then he vomits black sludge and he just looks down and he's like that's not good no it didn't end the right way for stay out of the basement the flowers weren't talking yep the

[01:51:40] I love this ending because it's way better than season one season one was uh I believe it was margo isaiah back to life with kandu's book and then possessing brat and I was like what what the fuck how does that even happen um here even though it doesn't make sense why Trey is still infected um just the fact that it just vomiting it makes no sense why he was just

[01:52:10] one he was eaten by the bulb but not eaten I guess I don't know turn into the you know mud monster I'm gonna call it that for the moment uh the goo monster I guess I can call it that and then gets squashed so he's dead but somehow absorbs himself into his own car and then absorbs himself from the sea to the planet life but then all of a sudden he's totally fine in a hospital dead

[01:52:40] catatonic and you know his girlfriend's getting hit on in front of him and they made that whole thing and then not the doctor not doctor lady came in to see him which I didn't quite get either maybe she gave him the shot I'm thinking that's what happened that would have got and then if she did that means he would have died based on what happens when any of the alien stuff gets the shot so then apparently he's fine

[01:53:09] well they did the same thing the whole thing until the end so that was weird dr brewer also gets injected with it to in the pod and he's fine so I don't know if maybe it's so you think because if trey's puking black goo then I'm assuming that brewer will as well at some point who knows and knows what these aliens whatever happened to maddie getting infected I have no idea they are not maddie but uh devin yeah devin

[01:53:39] being affected didn't pay off anything I don't think that I can recall so it's really weird they did have some loose ends and things were very rushed in the end overall uh I mean I would give this honestly I'd give and that's being a little generous I mean I might go down to like to 6.5 ish that's how I feel because that's only because I feel like they dropped the ball on a few

[01:54:09] of what things we just discussed like they the loose ends and how they didn't really wrap things up so well maybe you out there in the audience will have a better grasp on this than we had I've only watched it once through so maybe I missed some stuff but overall just on the first view watching this is what I'm getting and what the guys are getting from this there were a few things that were missed a few things they could have done better but overall a massive improvement compared to season one so I'm not going

[01:54:39] to complain honestly about season two as much which I'm sure will make you guys happy because you guys some of you out there were not very fond of the fact no this you're absolutely everything you said there is correct and as I said you know we talked each episode and this was very enjoyable but yeah once you get to the

[01:55:08] finale it does start to kind of fall apart with how many plot holes there are and unanswered questions unexplained aspects it can it does bring down the show quite a bit in that sense because you have a lot of things going for it and then it kind of drops the ball and you're just kind of left scratching your head why did that happen why was the alien good secretly but it did all this stuff like what

[01:55:53] do and then all of a sudden at the end they were like just kidding we're back to human form again but we're going to leave I guess but at the same time take care of my niece and nephew tell him I said hi bye he stink tell mom I'm dead don't tell her I'm alive or anything that never comes back in

[01:56:22] after episode six the whole thing with you know the mom with dementia doesn't come back into play so whatever I guess but no that's that's the thing it's like this season is very enjoyable it's a huge step in the right direction and I hope that season three going forward assuming there will be one they take the good things from the season and they do away with some of the bad I hope they get more time to explain things don't leave us with unanswered questions you don't

[01:56:52] want to be left in a finale with unanswered questions because it doesn't make for especially an anthology season show where it won't get that this will not be followed up in season three so they're going to do a book but I don't know if this book that just came out for pre-order today or yesterday whenever is going to wrap up anything more or if it's just like an adaptation of this season in a

[01:57:22] book form I really don't know what the book is yet I haven't looked into it I hope the book explains more about nine episodes because we said ten was too many eight was just not enough so Rob will go all right give them nine episodes nine episodes I think this episode could have done better with ten I think season one should have had eight and this season should have had ten because you can use those episodes to explain things further I feel like that extra time would have done this season better or in season

[01:57:52] one I think they just tacked on too much so that's where I season three will be called Goosebumps season three the camping the camping I hope they come up with a better title like the sleeping bag I personally don't think the vanishing is a great title to be honest but whatever I don't either because I mean yes they the kids vanished uh and the well the the kids from the past vanished but did they

[01:58:22] really because they just wrote they wrote him off as dead they kept saying he drowned he's dead um despite no evidence of bodies or them drowning or anything it's not like they really went out of their way of saying they just disappeared not to mention the the cop what he was hiding videotape for yeah she was hiding evidence like why would you do that like even dr brewer is like why would you hide this like disgrace he called her a disgrace to the force even

[01:58:52] even when you even when you watch the tape with the rest of the kids you're still not I mean even though they say like oh I see why she hit it I'm like I don't it's like why did she hide this tape I think it was just her survivor's guilt that was like driving her to bury it because she didn't want anthony to see all the horrible things that happened but it's like dude he's living with all this trauma and unanswered stuff like at least show him and his mom and his mom

[01:59:21] yeah like seriously but like the whole brewer family is just like distraught and in this really crazy state of you know just grief and you've got this tape and you could have presented it to the authorities or something to have something done but no but hide it regardless there's a lot of plot holes there's a lot of feelings and there's a lot of just those those things that kind of make the finale fall apart so unfortunately it could have stuck the landing it didn't

[01:59:51] and on top of also just bringing a bunch of things we didn't like from season one the the romance the melodrama like again it was toned down thankful for that but I just wish they weren't there at all like just do away with them and on top of that please if you do season three don't do a whole you know looking into the past mystery sort of thing do something a little bit original yeah I've done it twice now they need a little something fresh we need to stop going into the whole oh this thing happened

[02:00:20] in the past and it's happening now in the future like do something different just have keep it all in the present because that whole thing's getting old now and or just keep it as a period piece like it doesn't even have to be the present yeah I don't care if you do your camp theme is like all done in the late 70s early 80s I don't care make it in the 90s I don't care keep it in that era though yeah like I like that idea of camp like

[02:00:50] you know because if they did 10 episodes for season 3 they could have like the first five episodes could be like each camp book so episode 1 you focus on camp night moon's camp episode 2 ghost camp episode 3 jelly jam camp episode 4 for I can't like and then somehow they they all come together in the middle episode and then I don't know then you have the big whatever happened like those back up they're all together an entirely

[02:01:19] original story with the goosebumps characters like don't even make it like adaptation just take the goosebumps characters and locales and just make an original plot like you know don't don't be don't feel like you have to if you can't make an adaptation work don't do it you know sometimes you can just make something original so it I don't know it feels like they're trying to double dip still and I want

[02:01:48] chicken chicken make a whole season chicken chicken like literally I will watch the shit out of chicken chicken and they start season three episode where they're just clucking in class trying to talk to the teacher like miss like what what what are your final thoughts on the vanishing

[02:02:18] 6.25 out of 10 brought up because of the episode eight title yeah like now that I know what that is I'm like okay it made it marginally even better again so maybe maybe next season I'll have a 6.85 or a 7 oh maybe I will say I'm very happy to see that the general consensus matches what we have there are obviously people who who don't like this season as much as we do I've seen some

[02:02:48] 4 out of 10 I was like what some people have said that they prefer to season over this season and I will never understand I don't take it's like Rotten Tomatoes like well not not not even I mean I'm talking like people in the community do consider season one better and look it's all matter of opinion you know everyone's entitled to like what they like I personally will not understand it though even if it's wrong but but

[02:03:19] the whole consensus seems to be similar in that it was a major improvement but it seems to be around the 5 6 7 out of 10 I haven't seen anyone give it like an 8 certainly not a 9 or a 10 I think the overall IMDB ranking too for episodes I think episode one got the lowest but that was still a the highest rated one if I remember right that

[02:03:49] could have changed since I last looked but I think it the age group probably

[02:04:19] who liked season one over season two it's probably a younger audience because I can definitely see season one that's who they were trying to reach out to more rather than the goosebumps fandom over the 30 years whereas this season I settings even

[02:04:49] the music like we mentioned with System Over Down I know they had some in the first season too but they really really heavily played on more current stuff in the first season and more of the hip hop rap in that first season if I remember right I could be wrong but this season they seem to try to cater to more and really try to bridge that gap I guess I think if we look at the age groups who prefer season one you're probably going to find it's a lot of younger

[02:05:20] kids early teens who were probably liking season one but who knows I guess one thing more is that I don't know if this is going to get a third season I feel like this season definitely seems like it had more I don't want to say hype it had more advertising I saw a lot more of it this season than compared to last I don't know if we're going to get a third season

[02:05:50] I if we do I do still hope that they improve like take the good things and like get rid of the bad things personally I really wish they would just kind of drop the whole trying to be hip with Gen Z and I mean I

[02:06:41] know separate it as a show because it's actually enjoyable and watchable compared to season one in my opinion i give it that seven six point five maybe but as a goosebumps show maybe only like a four four point five i would because that's about how much references were in there roughly and things you could point out now again when i watch this the second time i may find more

[02:07:06] but just what i caught on the initial surface level airing of watching this wasn't enough in there to make it feel like goosebumps are considered a true goosebumps adaptation of the source material so i'd probably say 4.5 yeah season one was like a two yeah maybe it might have been less than that so but that's probably a little closer but they really need to like lock in and uh i mean even

[02:07:36] if that means like a change in crew or like writers or even you know higher ups like mr rob letterman who's been stapled to this franchise since 2016 fire rob letterman um you know it just take the good get rid of the bad and improve with season three if there's going to be a season approach us for season three this time be like what book should we do hey we don't want to give you guys some

[02:08:02] pointers what i want is something we should have gotten the 90s and that is a welcome to dead house entire show like season but every episode directed by guillermo del toro yeah i honestly somebody brought up in the in the goosebumps uh discord server i'm in the idea of a goosebumps show where every

[02:08:28] episode is directed by a different director like almost do like an anthology like that almost like how creep shows done uh like that would be fantastic i would love to see something like that um i'm just welcome to dead house that's it so i feel like yeah i mean welcome to dead house or if they are going to do this whole season kind of like they're doing now i mean they're already doing that since you know we

[02:08:57] just talked about how uh the blair rich project eduardo uh spanchos or whatever i can't remember his name now the director from blair which did an episode of this season that they could do that they could already do do that i mean they are doing it it's just we would like to see more of that in the style of those directors so get del toro get um you know maybe sam raimi um i'd love to see sam raimi do

[02:09:26] something like that just i think that'd be kind of neat to see a version he could do of maybe like uh attack of the graveyard ghouls i think that'd be right up his alley so i'd love to see that oh you know things like that they could do it but i guess to put a nice little bow on it all uh we enjoyed the season uh more than certainly more than we thought we were going to um so take that for what you will there are many it's very flawed uh there are many plot holes and the finale may

[02:09:56] make or break the season for you um but we had a good time it was enjoyable it was certainly better than season one it is a flawed step in the right direction i would say and uh i guess our general consensus score is about a 6.5 out of 10 so i would say yeah like we're in that six six two eight or whatever you said this way whatever it's passed you got a c minus it is above average so we will

[02:10:25] say that but uh check it out for yourself and uh obviously let us know in the comments below what did you think of goosebumps the vanishing uh did you like it did you not like it do you think it's better than season one or do you think season one is better uh if the latter please tell us why because i'm very interested to know but if you made it all the way to the end of this very long podcast episode then you definitely deserve to have uh your opinion down in the comments yes i know this one ran a little

[02:10:53] long below um because we'd love to know but yeah see it for yourself and uh make your own opinion and and let us know because i don't know if this is going to be a divisive uh show or not but so far it seems like it's pretty not divisive but yeah just let us know in the comments below we're very excited to uh see what you guys think and hopefully going forward with this reboot series uh things just get better and better that's all we can ever hope for so that's it that is that for goosebumps the

[02:11:22] vanishing and uh you know hope to see better from the future but for what we got it was pretty okay it was above everything by season three four or by season four five if we get that far this has to be like a 10 out of 10 show oh i certainly hope so hopefully we can one day look back and be like you know what we took a while but we got there in the end so season five was just so perfect yeah that chicken chicken adaptation was amazing

[02:11:52] take the worst book but make it the best season like who knows yeah and they did well they already did that with gooey worms uh so hey they made the right chicken won't be an award-winning episode they made that imagine like a writer but we even see the head writer for this season so they were doing something right there but yep so those are our thoughts on goosebumps the vanishing and with that we are going to end this

[02:12:17] episode of goosebumps crew off here uh thank you guys for watching this very long episode and once again leave your comments down below let us know what you thought of goosebumps the vanishing it's out now on disney plus and hulu so check it out if you haven't already with all that said make sure as always you follow bjorn and nick at goosebumps saucy fan and sean respectively if you'll like today's episode make sure you have a like and comment subscribe to us on youtube follow us on our audio

[02:12:42] platforms and social medias all those links are in the description below so check them out we'll have a brand new episode of the podcast for you next week but until then this has been the goosebumps group podcast and from all of us here we want to wish you all as always to take care stay safe eat your vegetables and have a very scary day