Live From Gravesend (ft. Galilea La Salvia)

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[00:02:42] All those links are in description below. So check them out. Join the Goosebumps crew today. Become a crew member. We thank you in advance for your support. So we're talking once again about the new talk of the town, Goosebumps, The Vanishing. It's been a month since the series dropped on Disney Plus and Hulu, and the buzz has still been going on about it. People are talking about it, talking about the things they liked and whatnot.

[00:03:05] And we're very, very, very pleased to revisit this season today because we have a very special guest joining us, a star from Goosebumps, The Vanishing. We're very excited to introduce Miss Galileo LaSalvia to the podcast. How are you doing today? I'm doing so great. I'm so excited. Well, we're excited to have you and talk about The Vanishing a little bit. So welcome to the Goosebumps crew. We're glad to have you. Thank you. Glad to be here. Absolutely.

[00:03:33] And so we're going to talk about Goosebumps, of course, and your role in the new series. But first, I mean, you've been an actress for a while now, and you've done things other than Goosebumps. Can you tell us a little bit about how your acting career began? Yeah. Well, okay, this is like so crazy because I actually started out on Spanish soap operas. So something completely different from what I'm doing now. That is the beauty of acting, I suppose.

[00:04:03] But yeah, I mean, I grew up in Miami, Florida, and I did that. And then I kind of wanted to branch out. And I knew that, you know, acting was something that I wanted to pursue. And so I moved to California and kind of got a footing here. But I mean, horror is something that I've always wanted to do. And so Goosebumps is kind of like the first role where I feel like I'm just in my element. This is so great.

[00:04:33] Definitely. And how did you get involved with the series? Did you go to an audition or were you approached? Yeah. I mean, the audition process was kind of weird, actually, because I got the audition in my email. And obviously, the first thing I see is Goosebumps. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is iconic. And I actually auditioned for the character of Cece Brewer at first.

[00:04:57] And I didn't even play Frankie until my chemistry read with Sam McCarthy. And so I remember being extra nervous because I get a call from my agent and they're like, so they loved you. I'm like, oh, great. But they want to see you for a completely different role. And I'm like, oh, great. And so my first time playing Frankie, it was also a chemistry read.

[00:05:26] And Sam also had like the worst lighting available. And I could barely see his face. And I started improvising. And it was such a weird experience to go through. And I remember like I logged off and I was like, well, I hope they liked me. But on an idea. And then I got a call the day after. And they're like, well, you have to move to New York for five months. Oh, and you leave tomorrow.

[00:05:55] Because it was like super short notice as well. I had to pack everything up. That is short notice from California to New York. I know. I mean, I love New York. I think after, you know, I've always wanted to spend like an extended period of time there. And getting to shoot this show especially. And experience like goosebumps through the eyes of New York. Was something super cool. And honestly, an experience I'll never forget. It's really cool that it was actually in New York.

[00:06:24] That was actually going to be another one of my questions. Because, God, if I remember correctly, it takes place in Manhattan. So did they film in Manhattan? Manhattan? It mainly, I think it mainly takes place in Brooklyn. In like Gravesend. And like there's like trips to Manhattan. But I think it is a very Brooklyn based show. Which was really cool. Because usually when you're filming a TV show.

[00:06:53] You're just in the like sound stage all day. And it's such a different experience to actually live in the world. And deal with real life while shooting. And especially New York. And you know how crazy New Yorkers can get. So I have some stories there. But yeah, it was just so nice being outside every day. And also kind of put me into the mindset of the character. Because Frankie is very, you know, she's a Brooklyn girl.

[00:07:22] She's working in the city. And it's like, I don't know. I really felt like I was living like her. Which was very beneficial. Definitely. Well, you know, you live in New York. You know, goo aliens are not really the craziest thing you'll see. Yeah. Not really. But so as you said, you know, Goosebumps is iconic. And I'm very curious to know. Did you know about Goosebumps before you got the role? Did you like grow up with the books at all or anything?

[00:07:52] Oh my God. Yeah, of course. I know Goosebumps through like the Scholastic Book Fair. I remember I would ask my mom for money. Just to like buy just little trinkets at the book fair and books obviously. And I remember seeing them there. And I think just like the cover art was very eye-catching. So it was definitely something that you couldn't miss. And my friends were like super obsessed with it. And I just like, especially third grade.

[00:08:22] I don't know why third grade. I just remember like Goosebumps. It's so weird. Yeah. That's when I got into it too. It was like second, third grade. It's like something about that time period. You just get hooked on those kinds of chapter books. Yeah. It's like your brain is developing and wants something spooky. Oh, definitely. It's that cover art, man. We keep saying this time and time again. Like it was the cover art that like drew you in. And then obviously you read the book and you're like, wow, this is so amazing. I love it.

[00:08:50] You know, obviously, you know. Yeah. At that time it was like Tim Jacobus who was like doing the cover art. And it was like, I don't know. I need posters of this stuff. It's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. We have a, I mean, it's times like this. I wish I had more wall space, but like I have like a big print of Haunted Mask, like right up there. And if I could, I'd get like, I'd fill my whole room with them. Cause it's just, it's so good. I mean, all the cover art. What was that?

[00:09:20] Have you done the roof yet? No, I haven't. You're right. Well, there you go. I need to decorate my roof. And just lie in bed at night and just look up and see all the Goosebumps cover arts. Yeah. I'm very slappy when you're going to say it. Oh, yeah. Definitely slappy. Shout out to him. He does sell prints that he signs on his website. Yep. So that's one of the ones I have. So. I'm purchasing. Thank you. Did you have a favorite book that you can remember?

[00:09:50] Was there anyone that ever like stood out to you? I really, I mean, I really liked the whole like Horrorland series because I'm a big fan fan of just creepy amusement parks at night. And for some reason that just like threw me in. And I think, I mean, now I have this like weird obsession with like clowns and all that stuff. So I think, I think that was like a big reason of it.

[00:10:16] But, but I mean, the show too, we worked really closely with Stay Out of the Basement. And I just, I remember reading that over and over on set. And so that just holds like such a nice warm memory in my heart. So I think, yeah, I mean, there's, there's a ton. And we worked with so many different books in this season and I got them all. And I have like the collection of every single book that we referenced. So that was really fun reading those.

[00:10:42] I was curious about that because when it came to the first season of this new show, we talked with Ben Kakel who starred in that season. And we asked him too, we were like, did they have you like reference, did they have you like go back and read any of the books they were referencing? I believe he said that they didn't for him, but he did anyway. He went and found like, not even just the ones that they referenced, like just anyone that he can get his hands on. Yeah, definitely.

[00:11:10] It wasn't even a requirement, but I'm just like, I'm such a like, I don't know. I love to do my research and I love to know the world. And so I got this season's and I also got a couple from last season's because I just really liked the haunted mask. And I thought that was really interesting. And I had watched the previous season also, and I just wanted to see the references and how, how like closely they followed it. So, I mean, that's just, that's just like the nerd in me. Like, it's not a requirement.

[00:11:40] It was just like me being crazy. Yeah. No, that's totally fine. You know, we can break and relate. Really? So now I got to ask about, you know, your role in the vanishing. And the first thing I'll ask is what was it like getting to work? Yeah. I mean, you got to work with many different co-stars in this season and I want to know what it was like.

[00:12:07] Let's start off with your friend group, you know, Sam, Jane, Elijah, Stoney and Francesca. Like, what was it like working with all of them? They were all so great. It was honestly, like looking back, we were all just so new to living in New York. Well, besides Sam, he's like a local. But, but yeah, I think when we first got there, we were kind of all still getting to

[00:12:33] know each other, but we really bonded by just exploring the city, which was really fun. This one time we just, I think, I think our first outing ever, we went to Soho and we met up and everyone wanted to do something different. And so we got completely lost and separated. And then by the end of the day, we got like back reunited and we went to dinner and we just

[00:12:59] talked about what we did, which is so funny because we just all had a different experience. But yeah, so just exploring the city and also, you know, bonding over like goosebumps and, and horror in general. And I think we're all, we all love that kind of stuff and we all love to spook each other out. So that was also, that was also really fun. Definitely. I mean, it just seemed like you guys. You do like horror and a thing for clowns.

[00:13:28] Now I will say, have you potentially tried to get a part on the Welcome to Dairy show that they're trying to put together? Yeah, that is happening, isn't it? Oh. Yes. There's a, there's a prequel It series going to HBO Max. There's a prequel It series. Yep. Yeah. I actually didn't know that. And I do believe they did confirm Bill Skarsgård coming back for Pennywise as well. Oh, dang. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[00:13:57] I'm pretty, pretty positive that he's confirmed. So. Wow. Okay. Okay. I feel like you'd be a good fit for that. Wouldn't you think? Kind of ideal. I'm just saying. Guys, you never know. Yeah. Hey, you know, we see you in that show. We'll be like, we were there. We were there that day. Because of this. But going back to the main point, I mean, it just seemed like you guys had like great

[00:14:26] chemistry on and off camera. I mean, like just seeing you guys just like make jokes and talk with each other. And then in the show, like, you know, you're you're a whole friend group and you're all in that together. It just seems like you guys have that really good chemistry amongst the six of you. I personally really liked the Goosebumps series Instagram where they showed a video of you

[00:14:52] guys choosing the shipping of either Trey or Devin and having to pick. You didn't know. You went down to the middle. I felt that was a tease in you. They were they were trying to, you know, I wasn't going to get caught slipping. I think I think Frankie has her decision to make.

[00:15:16] And I think it's just so funny because, you know, when you know them in real life, it's actually really funny because I think both Sam and Stoney were trying to like method act or something. So the first week they were like, should we actually beef, bro? Like, should we actually like have have an issue with each other? And then it could be like realistic on camera.

[00:15:41] And then I think they were trying it out and they ended up becoming like best friends, which is so funny. And they were like, yeah, bro, like my girl. And I'm over here like, dude, what are you what are you doing? I'm just like, what would they beef over? It's like it seemed like it would get along great. No, literally nothing. It would be made up. They would just I don't know. They were like, this is this is important to our characters. We have to not get along.

[00:16:09] But I ended up just becoming best friends. It was great. Honestly, it was a great thing. Yeah, just again, it just seems like you guys like whenever whenever you guys are together, it just seems like you're having a great time. And that's that's wonderful. I just love that sort of camaraderie that you can have with your co-stars. You know, both on camera and off camera. It's not like something where like once they say cut, it's just kind of like, well, I guess that's it. You know, I roll. Yeah.

[00:16:39] But then we also got to talk over season one to season two, where I actually really thought the and I'm not saying it just because you're here. I mean, I'm very honest about the first season and the second season when we do our reviews. So I like the chemistry, though, in the second season with the entire cast compared to the first one. Oh, yeah. Like, don't get me wrong. I'm a big like Justin Long fan and Ben Haquel and a few others that were on season one.

[00:17:08] But the chemistry between a lot of the characters didn't quite mesh as well, I thought, compared to what we got with this season. And I don't know if that's just because maybe the writing might have been a little better for everybody or if it was just that thing. Like sometimes you show up on set to meet your fellow cast members and then it just clicks.

[00:17:33] Because it definitely seems like at least for this season, the promotional material after that's been out, like I mentioned, the video that Goosebumps series shared on their Instagram. They didn't really do that with season one. It was mostly just like individual interviews almost or just a grouping of like two. And they did a little thing together, but it was never everybody. Yeah.

[00:17:57] So I think that's a testament to this season's cast is that you guys seem to have a lot better chemistry with each other. Well, thank you. Thank you. I mean, it's always so different with each project that you come on to. And I feel like in this one, we definitely we had like, I think, at least two weeks before we actually started shooting just to kind of prep our characters.

[00:18:23] And they were still I remember they were still like storyboarding and I would like watch everything come together, which was really cool. So I think those two weeks really gave us time to bond and get to know each other before we actually did start shooting. And I think that stuff like that is really important because we are playing this like friend group who has known each other for years and has so much history. And so I think, you know, that is part of the reason to why we just get along so great. Definitely.

[00:18:53] And like everyone I spoke to just said how fantastic this season was. Like my sister, who's not really a big Goosebumps fan, she binged the whole thing. And she said, wow, I just love the characters and the chemistry everybody had. And it just really made it like feel like something she could watch because she, yeah, she's never really been a fan of Goosebumps, but she really enjoyed this season. So they just, she just watched the whole thing, binged it. And I said that from the beginning, this season was so binge worthy, like compared to season one.

[00:19:23] So yeah, no, we loved it. It was so great. Actually going quick back to the whole Frankie, Devin, Frankie, Trey thing. I watched this season with a friend of mine or like a friend group. They're not Goosebumps fans either. And they were completely blind. I had seen it once before already.

[00:19:43] And I swear, like, I just remember back to, I think it's the scene where Frankie is breaking up with Trey because it's the night after, you know, they go into Cam Nightmare. And they're just like, girl, leave him, leave him, girl. And then they're like, yeah. Yeah. You know, especially at the beginning, you know, it's he, he goes through this whole like transformation.

[00:20:11] Um, so by the end of it, I kind of shocked to see like people were making edits of like his character. And they were like, the redemption arc. Like, this is like, he's my favorite. Like, they should have ended up together. And I'm like, okay, I see. I'm like, well, let's maybe not, maybe let's not get too ahead of ourselves. I have to ask what team are you guys? I, I don't know.

[00:20:40] I, at first I was like, well, it's clearly Devin's going to be the one that, you know, that gets together. But then by the end, they're like being all like buddy, buddy with each other. And I'm like, I don't know which ways it's going to go now. Well, cause they start like, they start talking again after he, you know, gets out of being comatose. And it's just kind of like, all right, I gotta admit this time I've been caught off guard. I, uh, I don't know.

[00:21:10] He was very, uh, Trey was very douchey. They wrote him very douchey. So it made you want to hate him in the beginning. And when Brewer smashed the car window, you were like, yes. But it was like, yeah, I don't know. Later. It kind of was, it was kind of like, I like him now, but I was like, I don't know. I'm still, I'm still a Devin fan in terms of if I had a ship, I guess. I do kind of wish Devin didn't fumble. His character, his character was the same from beginning to end. He didn't have to be douchey and then become nice.

[00:21:40] He was just, he's just been the nice guy. You're like, I don't give people a second chance. Yeah. You have one chance and you blew it. Um, speaking of Brewer, we got a, what about you? Hold on. Bjorn didn't say his. Oh, well, this is important. I was kind of Devin from the very beginning. I mean, yeah, I, he's just a nice guy, you know? And I, I like basically kind of answered it already, Nick.

[00:22:09] I thought that, you know, Trey was a little douchey. I was like, I don't really like this guy, but in the end. Trey, nobody liked Trey. He changed, you know, obviously. Stoney, if you're watching this man. He turned over a new leaf in the end. I don't know. I just, there's something about Devin that, I don't know. He was very likable for me. I liked his character. So I think it would have been. Yeah. It's just so funny. Cause I keep, like, I hear these answers and I just think of them in like real life. And I'm like, but Stoney's so nice. But then I don't really watch this series.

[00:22:38] And I'm like, oh yeah. Wow, girl. Get out. That's crazy. Yeah. I think even he was like, I think even made a pose where he's just like, yeah, I don't like him either. At least he's self-aware about it. No, they made it. They made it clear that like Frankie had like broken up with him before or said she was going to leave before. So it's a common trend.

[00:23:05] Cause even when she was talking with her mom, you know, she, she joked about it like, oh, you know, again, or, you know, for sure this time. So, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of a trend. Kind of a trend. That's how it goes when you're in a toxic relationship. They don't like. But when you get turned into a monster in a car and, you know, get put in a pod, it changes a person though. So.

[00:23:34] But speaking of Brewer, I do need to ask about working with David Schlimmer. Cause he's, he's obviously, he's the big star. He he's, he's the guy who was like all over everything in this show. But he also just seemed like he was an absolute delight. What was it like getting to work with him? It was incredible. I mean, I, I'm such a big friends fan. I, I would like play that series to fall asleep. Cause I thought just his voice was so comforting.

[00:24:04] So that was a big shock to like walk onto set and be like, oh, Hey, what's up? Like, this is crazy. Um, and I remember being kind of like nervous. Cause when you like know someone, you're kind of scared to meet them. Uh, but I didn't even know that he was on the show until I got the script. And when I got the script, I was already on the plane to New York.

[00:24:28] And so I remember sitting in my seat being like, oh my God, girl, David Schwimmer, this is crazy. What are you going to say? Don't make any references to friends. Like it's, it'll just, it'll go downhill. If you just keep quoting him, that's not a good idea. Um, but I met him and he was just the sweetest person ever. And he was so welcoming and he is so professional and you can just tell that

[00:24:58] he's just, you know, a seasoned actor and knows what he's doing. And he's just like in a corner running his lines. And, and every time he walks onto set, he is just prepared. But yeah, but just that is like, I don't know that plus being so welcoming and such a good person. I'm like, oh man, you're just amazing. Oh, definitely. I mean, he was the way every scene he was in. Yeah. I was going to say, I was wondering how that would go.

[00:25:25] So if you work with someone you've like watched on shows or movies, and also now you're in a scene with them as real, I feel like that would be very, yeah, surreal, but very like daunting at the same time. Um, not to try to fumble your lines, not to try to overthink stuff or, you know, it'd be very, very, uh, intimidating, I think to do something like that. Definitely. Definitely.

[00:25:51] And, uh, you know, David Schwimmer is someone who just seems like so nice when you like see him in interviews and stuff like that. So you're like, how would he work in a, a horror show? Um, and he does it like, honestly, you know, he plays the, the nice dad, you know, very well. Definitely. It's like not even a question, but he can play creepy. He can, he can. Oh yeah. Oh, no.

[00:26:17] And it's so funny because I think, you know, goosebumps is also known for being, um, horror and comedy. And I know that David has some really funny lines. I think one of my favorite lines of his was, um, he was, he was trying to find like what happened to Trey and he was talking to Trey's dad and he was being compared to like Jeffrey Dahmer. And he goes, yeah, I ate him. I ate him. You ate him. Delicious.

[00:26:47] And I cracked up. I remember seeing that and I was like this. Oh my God. This is so glad. Cause I was going to say like, that was the line that like, cause I, you know, obviously I laugh, but it's just kind of like, like that, that line came on and I was howling with laughter. Like it was like so funny. And it's just the way that he delivers it. Cause he's got such that, like, he, he's got such like a normal sounding voice.

[00:27:15] Um, I, I guess is the way I would put it. Um, that like when he says stuff like completely out of pocket like that, it just is hilarious. Yeah. No, I totally get what you mean. It's almost as if you're not, you're just not expecting it. You're just, Oh wait, what? You just did a double take. Yeah. It's just like, what did you just say? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like that's totally legit. And I was thinking that when you started saying that, I was like, Oh, it's a tour comedy

[00:27:41] that has goosebumps through and through, uh, in the later books. So I was like that, you know, I feel like if you're just or it's hard to do horror comedy, but he's done comedy for most of his stuff. But it's funny to see like, uh, some actors who you never thought you'd see in horror and they just excel at it. Um, but that just goes with, I think the seasoned actor, they can kind of pull that, but to dip his toe in horror goosebumps is a great place for him.

[00:28:10] Uh, just based on his comedy that he had in friends, I felt that fit very well. Um, but I don't know how you could resist not putting some of the lines from friends at him sometimes, you know, just David, David, you need a pivot pivot, David. No, I just, you know, casually throw in. Uh, but we were, we were on a break whenever I come back into set. I'm like, what? I thought we had a break. We were on a break. What?

[00:28:41] I was going to even say like, do something like internet meme and just do like the, the, get a load of this guy. I mean, um, so, uh, my next question is, so, you know, I I'm curious to know what the filming process was like, uh, you, uh, you know, you confirmed that a lot of this was filmed on location, not, not a ton of, uh, sound stages of you, but you know, mostly on location.

[00:29:09] But what, what was it like filming? Like, was it super long hours? It was, it was a lot of night shoots, which was very, very cool actually. Cause I, I love night shoots cause I'm not a morning person and I will just stay up until like 5am just on the, on the daily basis. So I think production was really working with my schedule for the first time. Um, so that was really fun and it was a lot of locations.

[00:29:40] There was one time we shot, uh, like, um, they rented out like a subway platform and we got to shoot in a moving train car, which was, I think one of my favorite days on set. Cause that, that was just, that was insane, especially just being in New York and on an actual subway and shooting a show like goosebumps. It was just such a dream moment. Um, so there was that.

[00:30:05] And then we had, you know, Frankie's coffee shop that she worked at, um, that we would shut down for filming and I would get weird stares cause it was shut down for filming. And then the, the scenes that were shot at sound stages was, um, in the later episodes when they kind of go into this whole underground facility. Um, so that was super cool because I kind of got to see the evolution of construction on

[00:30:34] the sets and see how that was all built and the pods and everything and how they designed it and how they made it. And just how everything looked after the special effects were added in post. That was also really interesting. But yeah, but I think the sets were just a huge part of this show and just the, the special effects. There's also Fort Totten, which plays a huge part in the series.

[00:31:02] And that was actually kind of creepy in real life because you're just in the middle of like an abandoned military fort at 5am. Um, and it, it's actually spooky. It's actually spooky. Did you ever get like actually like creeped out or scared during any part of the filming? Well, there was, um, on that set, there was, um, like these huge tunnels that we would have to go through and it would be, we would, I don't know why there wasn't another way around it.

[00:31:32] It was like, Oh, you're gonna have to go through the tunnel if you want to shoot this show. Um, but it was like, it was so, so long. It was, it was, I don't know. Like while I'm speaking, I'm like low key speaking with trauma right now. But, um, but if we wanted a snack too, we would have to go through that for crafty and it was pitch black and we would have flashlights. And, um, I just remember, I don't know, maybe it was like a coping mechanism.

[00:32:01] I would just like sing, go through the tunnel. Cause I think like the acoustics were really good. Um, and maybe it just made me feel better, but, um, but that was genuinely spooky. And, um, we would also play this game while we were going through the tunnels, which was let's turn off our flashlights and let's walk like blind. And it's honestly, as if your eyes were closed, you would not see anything.

[00:32:29] So we would have our arms out in case we ran into a wall or each other. Um, I don't know why we did that stuff. I think it was just 5am. We were getting delirious, but it was, it was, it was a moment. It was a memory. I'm grateful. I, I, sounds fun to me. You know, hopefully you don't, you run into something that's, you know, not inhuman. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:32:57] Well, they're, you know, they're doing government testing down there. You know, you never know what could be something done. Um, but, um, yeah. And I, I guess, uh, my next question kind of ties into it, but, uh, you know, what, what's it like to just kind of film a horror feature, you know, show movie, like what, what's kind of the vibe between, uh, the process. It's, it's amazing.

[00:33:24] First of all, I mean, like I said, I've always wanted to do this genre and I grew up on like those like eighties dark fantasy films where everything was just like very eerie and spooky and just kind of creepy. And, um, and so I think that since it was something I've always wanted to do, I was just so happy to be there. And sometimes it's weird.

[00:33:53] Sometimes you will be having a blast and then they're like action and you're like, okay, lock in. Like, this is serious. You're about to be eaten by a monster. And then other times, if it was like a harder scene to do, we would, we would hype ourselves up, especially if we were like running from something, we would do jumping jacks and we'd be like, okay, like this is serious.

[00:34:13] But, um, I think it was really nice that our cast was very, very willing to act a fool, which is, I think one of the most important things when it comes to acting, because technically you are playing pretend and you are acting silly to, you know, uh, people around, but to you, it feels so real. And I think that is what really sells it.

[00:34:40] And especially on a show like Goosebumps, it's so cool because you get to run from these monsters and, and discover like new things and mysteries. And I think it's really important to, to believe it, you know? And it sounds so silly because it's like, oh, well, you know, we're just filming a TV show, but no, no, no, we're not, you know? Like this is important. And I think that our cast was really like able to do that and really immerse themselves. So I'm grateful for that.

[00:35:07] And I think for a show like Goosebumps, like that, that sort of energy needs to be there because you need to have, obviously, you know, as an actor, you need to sell, uh, that these feelings, these emotions are genuine within the world of the show. Um, so, you know, you need to, especially with horror, when you're, when you are doing a lot of running from, you know, big, creepy monsters, you need to sell it. You need to like really, you know, sell that you're being chased by something.

[00:35:33] Um, and audiences sometimes can tell when somebody's not, you know, when somebody's phoning it in. So it's important to really get that down, uh, in the process of filming. And, uh, especially for Goosebumps, like you need to, it needs to seem like it's fun because Goosebumps is fun. Like no matter what, what you look at in terms of Goosebumps, like in the franchise, it has to be fun. Um, it's not fun. It's not Goosebumps. So. I agree. Yep.

[00:36:02] And, uh, you know, a lot of running in Goosebumps. I mean, you think back to the original 90s show, there's whole, whole scenes where it's just nothing but running and running and running. Yeah. RL Stein himself has said he's had to cut down on the amount of running in his books sometimes. That's interesting. Cause I, uh, you say Stein in his books.

[00:36:29] I actually think Stein has said he's never written a story in New York. Like as far as like his stories go, they're always somewhere else. Yeah. He's, he's never written a story that's taken place in New York. So it was really interesting that the show did that. And, uh, it's because he lives there and I think he just doesn't want to write a story about a place where he lives. Exactly. Which is really funny in its own right. Um, but that's kind of funny.

[00:36:57] Like it's in New York that Stein ever happened to come to set while you guys were there. No, unfortunately I really wanted him to, but, um, I think my only interaction with, with RL Stein was, um, well, my cousin got me like the stay out of the basement book. And just when she heard that I booked this job and she was DMing RL Stein and she was like, my cousin is on your show.

[00:37:27] Can you sign up? And I was like, girl, I think he's on Instagram, which he is, but I don't think he's like his DMS like that. Um, and I think I was right. Cause he never responded, but I think. You'd be surprised. Now I think he's mostly on Facebook more than anything. Cause, um, I've reached out trying to get him on the podcast before he does respond on occasion.

[00:37:53] Um, it may take a little while, but Instagram's not, I don't think his main one, but Facebook tell her next time. Go to Facebook. Yeah. Well, I got to get you a signed book by RL Stein. That's like the treasure. Now I'm like building my collection so I can give him like a couple different copies. Yeah. That's awesome. You're becoming a collector. You're like us now. One of us. One of us. Browns. Yeah.

[00:38:22] You'll get there. But, um, so, you know, we talked about, you know, like all the scary stuff. Is there anything that personally scares you? Ooh, gosh. Um, honestly, I'm not the best swimmer. Um, it's, um, kind of scary. So like, I think the ocean is probably one of my biggest fears. Cause I, you know, it's a bit unexplored. You don't know what's down there. I don't know.

[00:38:52] I don't know. It's, um, it's pretty scary. And I would just prefer to stay away from it. Even though I, like I grew up in Miami. And so you would think that I'm like surfer girl. Woo. Love that. But no, just not in me. Yeah. No, you see the video. You see those documentaries of things that are living in the ocean and stuff like that. And you're just like, no, thank you. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And again, like she said, that's what we know about. Yeah. We still, yeah.

[00:39:22] You don't know what's living down there. Bjorn lives in Australia. So everything there tries to kill you. Oh, oh my gosh. They just discovered a new species of funnel web, which is basically a funnel web, but a lot bigger, which is like the most dangerous spider in the world. One bite. And unless you've got an ambulance standing by, you are gone. And I'm like, that's nice to know. And people are finding them in their shoes and in their homes. Oh no. Lovely to find that out.

[00:39:52] Not in my shoes. It's called the Sydney funnel web, but they're around here. Yeah. I mean, spiders and I don't want to find one in my shoe. Yeah, but I've grown to love spiders. Jumping spiders are adorable and I have grown to love spiders, but Sydney funnel web. No, that thing's just ugly, scary. I swear it hisses at you when you walk past one. Well, see, you like spiders because there's just as many spider population as there is people in Australia. Yeah.

[00:40:22] We have everything. If it's not killing you in the ocean, it's on the land or in the creek. You go swimming up north and you'll get eaten by a crocodile. I mean, you can't really escape. Kids, the moral is don't go to Australia. Stay away. Honestly, we're so happy you're here. Yeah. Lucky. Three in five homes have a snake in the roof.

[00:40:43] So, I know I've got one in my roof because I heard one up there and I heard a mouse squeaking and then, yeah, and then it kind of, we had a snake. Then it was gone. It's control. That's control. I don't think I would survive a day. No. Me neither. You know what's funny? It was too rude. They're built up. I was going to say, it's funny because we actually have had guests on.

[00:41:10] Catherine Short was one of them who said she had been to Australia and actually really loved it. I think if you visit there, that's the key. If you visit there, it's fine. But if you want to live there, you probably won't live long there. It might be the hot sun or, yeah, something in the ocean because you've got the box jellyfish. There's a lot of things here. Well, you know what? I think I mentioned this once.

[00:41:38] I once got asked, you know, what's scarier, the ocean or space? And I'm like, space is scary. Like, you know, you're drifting off into space. That's scary. But again, you know, you don't know what's living in the ocean and that's our planet. So, like, space, that's out there. That's all the way out there. I mean, unless they come here, which I certainly hope not. Don't worry about that yet. Yeah, not yet.

[00:42:03] At least hopefully not the kind in this show that, like, you know, goo come out of your eyes and stuff like that. I don't know. They were really nice. They took the vanished with them in the end. So, yeah. There's one with them. Popular opinion. I thought, like, the end creatures, the little, like, those. I thought they were pretty cute. Yeah, they were pretty neat, weren't they? My dog.

[00:42:31] So, my daughter said she thought those looked like Demogorgons from Stranger Things. Yes. And I was like, all right, I can see that. But the much cuter version. I just, I don't know. They make the little clicking noises and it's like, aw. Aw. Yeah, also kind of like, the noises also kind of reminded me of, like, The Last of Us. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing.

[00:42:55] Like a pastige of the popular sort of monsters nowadays in these long-running shows. They're so cool. And those were, like, interacting with them while we were shooting was cool because they were just people in these, like, suits and they have these arm stilts and they would be charging at you. And it was just honestly pretty scary because they just looked like this whole creature. They were incredible at their job, honestly.

[00:43:24] Yeah, I think I've seen that before. Or, like, where you need to, like, have elongated arms to sort of replicate that sort of on-all-fours motion. They have those sort of sticks and it can look pretty uncanny. You know, even on the green screen because, you know, they're covered in green screen suits so they already look uncanny to begin with. So I gotta ask about one scene, you know, we're talking about monsters.

[00:43:52] And you're in a scene where Trey goes into the basement and he's not supposed to stay out of the basement. And he supposedly emerges as this gross, slimy creature. And I gotta ask, what was it like with that thing? That thing. Oh my gosh.

[00:44:22] It was actually insane. I remember before even seeing that creature and what it was, I remember smelling that creature. And I don't know if it was a mixture of, like, the latex or the black goo that they just put on this poor man in this suit. But it was honestly so cool. I just felt bad for the actor because bathroom breaks were really hard.

[00:44:52] And it was also just so funny because we would be shooting this, like, super dramatic scene and then we'd go to Crafty and have a chat and he would tell me about, you know, his kids. And I'm like, oh, great. You know what I mean? And I'm just like, yo, I'm bonding with this monster. We're buddy-buddy now. It's so great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love that kind of stuff. I love working with gross looking creatures and, you know, I had to, like, scrape parts

[00:45:20] of him off and it was pieces of flesh and that whole, like, gore. And it was just so incredible and something that I've, like, never done before. So I was having a blast. It was awesome. I was in my head. I'm like, am I, like, disturbed in the head that I'm really enjoying this? Yeah, body horror is huge in this season compared to the first one. So, yeah. When you were scraping, I was like, ew.

[00:45:50] It's like, that's a... Is that muscle tissue under that? Well, it's like, also, like, you don't know yet that that's, like... Because you think that's Trey. Like, you think that, like, little flower, like, did that to him and his, like, flesh is melting off. So it's like, oh my god, that's a person. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I think that's also one of my, like, the favorite scenes for me to shoot because it was just so...

[00:46:18] It was just so iconically goosebumps for me. And I was like, this is so great. I agree. 100%. Was there a bump story out of this season that you liked the most? From the books that referenced? From the books that they adapted to this season. Because we had Stay Out of the Basement. It was only revealed, I think, a few days after the full season had come out.

[00:46:46] But the last episode was Invasion of the Body Squeezers, which was a series 2000. Story, which was really interesting that they went with that. But we kind of figured that's what it was. But, I mean, they had Camp Nightmare, which is a fan favorite. And I was just kind of curious if this season there was a particular book adaptation that you liked more than the others. Mm-hmm. I think they did a great job with kind of adapting them and putting, like, Easter eggs into the show.

[00:47:15] I think I really liked, like, the Ghost Next Door reference with Hannah and the whole... Like, I thought that was a really cool plot twist of her just... Oh, my God, guys. Spoilers. Sorry. Nope. All good. So it was really cool because just seeing that, like, come to life and that whole action sequence

[00:47:42] with, you know, Francesca in the car. And I remember her just, like, telling me about it because she was like, oh, my God, it was so cool. We were, like, racing down, like, this road. And then the car, like, splashed into the river and all that stuff. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it was just amazing. But, yeah. And, oh, my God. Now I'm just, like, thinking of so many books because, like, Monster Blood 2 with the whole creature that, like...

[00:48:09] I think, to me, that was, like, the scariest creature if it were real. Like, I don't think I'd survive that because how do you even fight that? It was, like, electricity. It was so... I was like, no, I'm dying. It's fine. Yeah. But, yeah. Definitely a lot of favorites. Mm-hmm. Definitely. And I'm glad, you know, Monster Blood got brought up because that whole just chase sequence, you know, from the apartment to the subway, which, you know, you brought up already.

[00:48:36] But, like, just that whole sequence of them being chased by this unstoppable, like, just blob is pretty terrifying. And it was done really, really well. It was. It's a really tense scene. And, gentlemen, you think, all right. Boom. Boom. Nope. That's the Goosebumps way. It's, like, you know... Honestly, that's the horror way. It's, like, don't ever think the monster's gone because it could come back when you least inspect it.

[00:49:06] Definitely. They did well with the references on this one compared to Season 1. I was so excited when they actually had the Camp Nightmoon, like, scene with the counselor and the kids. I was like, wow, this is so good. Because that was my favorite episode from the original TV series. So I was really excited when they actually did that for the Camp Nightmare episode. When they actually did the whole, like, actually dressed up in their camp outfits and stuff. So that was really nice that they did that. Yeah.

[00:49:33] I really loved kind of, like, every, like, flashback that they did within the season. And even the whole, like, I think it was episode 6 where they just did a whole, like, VHS thing. I love it because I'm just a big fan of, like, analog horror on YouTube and just ARGs and stuff like that. And so that was really reminiscent of that. And I just thought that it was amazing and so well executed.

[00:50:02] And also, you know, Eduardo Sanchez, who did the Blair Witch Project, was directing it. And it's the perfect match. And that is honestly one of my favorite episodes. It's my favorite episode. And it really is good. And I'm so glad that they got Eduardo to direct that episode or even just those segments because he's, you're right, he's, like, the perfect person to get for that fond footage, analog horror style.

[00:50:29] And it's also the first time where we, like, get to see inside, like, what is inside of that hatch. And doing it in that, you know, handheld camera style in the dark, like, you're just the POV of one character, helpless. And then you see those pods with all the, you know, like, Maddie and his friends in there. It's haunting. It really is. And then that's also the first time you see one of the little alien creatures.

[00:50:57] And it's just kind of, like, working in the background in the darkness. And you just hear the... It's creepy. It's great. Yeah, that's one thing I really thought our conversation when we did review on this kind of sparked the imagination. I was like, well, if they got him for this episode, I was like, what if they just got other horror directors?

[00:51:20] Imagine James Wan doing an episode next season and, you know, Guillermo del Toro, you know, just all these other horror legend directors maybe come on to do an episode in their style, you know, for that. Because, I mean, that worked out very well. And it is a fan-favorite episode. And I think it's because of that reason that he directed it. Because he was... He's obviously very adept in this. I mean, he did play a witch. So, it makes total sense. So, yeah.

[00:51:48] Very, very interested to see if they do get a third season if they continue that trend. I hope so. Yep. Definitely. Definitely. So, I actually got this question and I didn't know about this, but I just wanted to ask this. Somebody asked that there was apparently a crab on set named Gerald. Is that true? I'm going to assume so. Yes. Really?

[00:52:18] Asked this. This is crazy. There was... Okay. So, I don't even know how to explain this. So, we had... We were shooting at, I think, that same, like, Fort Totten place. And me, Francesca, and Jaden had, like, this super long break. And we were just wandering. And this fort is kind of by the water.

[00:52:46] And we were sitting on the rocks. We were just having this, like, super deep conversation. And then I spot, like, a little, like, baby crab. And I'm like, oh, my God, guys, come here. It's a baby crab. And I pick it up. And it had unfortunately passed. Oh, no. So, it was a little shell. And I was like, oh, my God, like, we have to keep him.

[00:53:14] And so, I carried him back to my trailer. And, you know, the girls were with me. And we were kind of washing him off. And we named him after our, like, favorite camera guy on set, Gerard. And we showed it to him. We're like, this is a little gift. And I'm sure he thought that we were so weird for that. But he appreciated it. And I kept him.

[00:53:44] I brought him home to my, like, New York apartment. And I was trying to, like, take him back with me to California. And he unfortunately did not survive the trip. I don't know where he is now. But long live Gerard. Long live Gerard. They should have a memoriam in the credits. They can do. So, that's so funny you got that question. I know.

[00:54:14] I was like, I don't even know, like, how that came about. But I was just like, really? It was a crab? I was like, I have to ask about that. They don't know how they know that. Yeah. I was going to say, I'm wondering how they know that. Unless this was someone who worked on the show. And had them submit the questions. Yeah. Maybe Gerard himself. His name says season three. Season three. Yeah. Definitely. Speaking of the crew.

[00:54:42] Any particular, like, highlights from the crew that worked on the show? Any people who worked behind the scenes that you feel did a really good job? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The VFX people were absolutely insane. And I feel so bad because I kept on asking them so many questions. I'm like, what does this do? What does this do? They would, they would, when we would film kind of a scene that required any sort of, like, effects afterwards, they would call balls and charts.

[00:55:11] And it was just, like, they would bring out, like, a chart and had a bunch of colors to, like, color match it. And this, like, sphere. And it was, one side was super reflective and shiny. And then the other was matte. And they would, like, do this to the camera. And I'm like, what's going on? What are you doing? And they explained it to me, like, so many times. And I still don't understand. But it was really, really fun. And so shout out to them because they did an incredible job. Definitely.

[00:55:37] I love the VFX that they did for both practical creatures and, you know, CG when they had to use it. Mostly for, like, the bigger monsters, the aliens and whatnot. It really worked. It looked pretty good in my personal opinion. So I definitely shout that. They did a great job. Yeah, I agree.

[00:56:02] That's one thing that I think it gets lost in a lot of current movies and TV media is practical effects. Especially horror. Yeah, especially horror. And horror needs it the most compared to others, I think. Because for actors especially, a lot of them, they say it's kind of difficult sometimes when it's just, like, a ball on a stick and it's supposed to be this monster and there's just a guy holding it. And you're supposed to react a certain way. And it's like, this looks goofy as crap.

[00:56:32] I don't know how I can do it, but I do it. And I'm just like, yeah, no, I get it. Because imagine, like, back then if it was Jason Voorhees or Freddy Krueger. And then most of it's CG on him. So it's just a guy there going, It's not as scary. So I totally love the practical effects. Like, the fact that they actually did a suit for Trey's monster, it looked really cool.

[00:56:57] And I think I saw where they were trying to model after the mud monster from You Can't Scare Me. Which is great. Or even, you know, David's hanging eyeball. I was going to say, the hanging eyeball that David was wearing. That was cool. No, also, his head. Like, David Schwimmer's head was practical effects. And, you know, obviously they, like, you know, they did some CGI for, like, him speaking and moving.

[00:57:27] But, like, the actual head was real. And I remember walking onto set and being like, what is going on? This is insane. But, yeah, I think as an actor, like, you're always so grateful to have something to react to. And so I'm really grateful that they did use a bunch of practical effects. Especially going back to, like, my 80s references of, like, those, like, spooky movies. Like, I would watch behind the scenes on that.

[00:57:56] And you would actually see these monsters in real life. And you would... I just felt like, like, as an actor, you must feel so immersed in that. And that's just so great to have actually something there to react to. Mm-hmm. Definitely. And also, you know, those pods in, like, the facility. Those pods are real. And I've seen tons of pictures about them. Like, those look really cool to be in.

[00:58:25] No, I'm, like, on set with my film camera trying to, like, capture everything. It's so great. It's awesome. Were those pictures... By the way, were they shot with, like, an older camera? Or, like, sort of, like, a handheld camera? Because they even kind of look like sort of, like, pictures you'd find in the 90s. Was that intentional or not? Yeah. I mean, I... Which ones are you talking about? Because I have... Because there's, like, some that, like, Goosebumps posted.

[00:58:54] But I have, like, my film account thing where I'm, like, posting a bunch of... The film... Your film account. Yeah. Yeah. The film account... I have an Olympus OM-10. And it's just, like, an SLR camera wind up. And so I was bringing that around. And then I also had, like, a small point and shoot for, like, night shoots. Because the flash would be stronger. So, yeah. And it was so funny. Because I was, like, the designated photographer on set. They'd be, like, Kelly!

[00:59:23] Go take a picture! I'm, like, I'm here with my camera! And I would hide in scenes. So, usually if you're watching a scene in, like... If it's the Brewer House or something, my film camera is actually behind a pillow. Oh, wow! Yeah. I always, like, hide it somewhere. And I've actually lost it a couple times. Because I hid it once in a cart that they, like, took away. And I was, like, does anyone know where that cart went? And they're, like, why? I'm, like, don't worry about it.

[00:59:52] I just really need to know. So... We're gonna lose history. We're talking about right here. I'm so glad you took those pictures, though. It's just so cool to, like, just see all those different aspects of the sets and the behind the scenes. And just the interaction between the cast and the crew. Like, that's always the best part of, like, seeing a production.

[01:00:15] That the 90s show did not have the budget for, we found out, as we've been talking to cast and crew from that show. So... Because we asked why there's no, like, behind-the-scenes featurettes. Why there's no photos. And the photos come later because of people like yourself who worked on the show who just took pictures or their spouses took pictures. That's the only thing that we have for the 90s show now.

[01:00:40] It's a show behind the scenes of, like, you know, Carly Beth wearing the mask and her makeup touched up. Or Mr. Mortman's headpiece. And, you know, smiling next to another headpiece of himself, you know. Weird things like that that were coming to light 30-plus years later. So, who knows?

[01:00:59] In 30-plus years from now, those photos might be something that another Goosebumps podcast or whatever the stage of podcasting is, you know, might reference to say, Oh, yeah, Carly, it took these. Check this out. You know? You never know. So crazy. I hope so. I hope they serve for something. I mean, I've always been, like, I think any film that I watch, I'm the type of girl to go on YouTube and search up behind the scenes. Or just, like, try to find any media.

[01:01:27] Especially if I, like, I loved watching it and I just kind of feel like I need more of it. And so that's just kind of my little, like, gift, I guess, in a way. But, yeah, I think just because I'm a person that appreciates that, like, I wanted to, you know. I also just love film photography. And just, I see a cool thing and I want to take a photo. It's just, like, in me. So, yeah. Movie making is fantastic. Movie making has so many different aspects to it.

[01:01:56] It's, like, it's the most incredible thing. Like, I feel the same way. Like, whenever I see, like, a film set and just, like, what it all takes to make a scene. Just to make a single scene. Like, people forget, like, you know, when it comes to, like, even lighting. Like, lighting itself takes, like, tons of equipment to get it right. Right. Yeah.

[01:02:20] So it's just such a phenomenal process of creating something, a movie or a show, whatever it may be. Yeah. And speaking of lighting, like, when we would shoot at night on the street, like, I didn't realize how much work was put into making the environment feel so eerie. So they would wet the sidewalk so it could be, like, reflective.

[01:02:45] And they would have this huge, huge blue light just casting over the entire set. And they'd have a fog machine. And it really, I remember, you know, because we have our little green room. So you would walk out to see the set. And I'd be like, whoa, this just got, like, transformed. Like, suddenly this is goosebumps. This is insane. So, like, you don't realize the amount of work and how detailed people are with their jobs.

[01:03:13] It really just, like, you could really, you would know if they weren't there, you know, like, watching it. You'd be like, yeah, it doesn't feel the same. And that's why. Because people like that, they just have so much love for it. Definitely. Shout out to them. It's incredible. Like, I don't know if you remember the show Animorphs from the 90s. Like. Like the books? Yep. There was a 90s TV series based on the books back then. Oh, my God. I know the books.

[01:03:42] Those book covers are crazy. They're crazy, right? And some of them are just kind of outrageous, ridiculous. Like, no one's going to turn into a starfish, I don't think. But, you know. I thought it was for a starfish. Not going to be the awesome starfish from Finding Nemo. It's definitely not going to be that scenario. You know, but the show back then wasn't shot at night. And I'm guessing that had to do a lot with the fact that they actually used kids' kids.

[01:04:07] So, like, they probably had a curfew, per se, or a time cutoff where they were allowed to film. So, you could definitely tell back then when they were doing night scenes. They were definitely shooting during the day. They just put, like, a night filter over it. Because their shadows were ridiculous on the ground. Like, that was definitely, like, it was sunny as crap out that day when you're shooting a nighttime scene. Like, that's really funny. Yeah. Like, me on iMovie trying to make just a feature film.

[01:04:37] Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I have a blue filter on, and I'm like, yeah, it works. Yep. That's good. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like, you know, when you're younger and you're like, I want to make movies. And I was definitely like this as a kid. It's like, you know, you make your little home movies, and they look nice. But, you know, sometimes people forget that there's a lot of work that goes into the film business. A lot, a lot of work. There's, like, hundreds of people working on it. Even if it's a short film.

[01:05:07] Like, just hundreds of hardworking people who are, you know, working days and nights. Sometimes to the bone to make a good product. And it can show. It really does show. Like, you can tell when a product has a lot of passion put into it. It shows on the screen. I agree. That's one thing for sure. These, I'll give credit to the first season for that, too.

[01:05:35] The lighting and photography for both seasons was excellent. Like, while the story is much better in season two, I don't know if they kept the same lighting and production crew for both. But I thought they were both fantastic. Like, they really set a scene based on what you want to do. I mean, whether it's you guys in his dad's workshop in the garage, where it was a little bit better lit. You know, kind of set a tone for this.

[01:06:02] Or if you're going to Camp Nightmare, you know, and it's obviously a darker tinge and spooky. They really capture an atmosphere, depending on where you're at. Or the basement with the greens and the purples and all that. That's my personal favorite. Yeah. The basement set was really cool. Mm-hmm. Love the basement set. Was it fun getting carried out of the basement from the house?

[01:06:29] How many times did you actually have to be carried, I wonder, like, to reset? It's so funny because that actually wasn't me. That was my stunt double. Really? Yeah. I don't think, like, they didn't let me do it. Really? Sometimes they're very, like, mixed with that kind of stuff. Because, like, I'm the type of person to be like, no, like, I want to do all my own stunts. And then they're like, Ali, you're crazy. We need you. So. Yeah.

[01:06:58] No, we had an amazing stunt team and stunt coordinator. And so that was her. So props to her. But, yeah, I got to do kind of the rest of it where I was just, like, scraping the poor dudes back. Crush them with a car and just. You know, I pulled a lever. I did my job. Did they actually drop a car or was that CG?

[01:07:28] That was CGI. Yeah. I know. I wanted it, too. I was like, okay. And it was so funny because we had to react to it. And we all had to, like, you know, look down at the same time. So it looked realistic. And it took a couple of takes. But it was really fun. Yeah. That was just a great scene. It's kind of like a. Like an, oh, wow. Sort of scene. Because you're just like, you don't expect it. And then it's just like. Yeah. The work they got to do are these stunt doubles.

[01:07:57] I love that meme that goes around there. And it's like the iconic one. It's like Tom Cruise's stunt double. But it's just Tom Cruise sitting on like a big tall building. I'm like, yeah. Literally. That is so funny. No, honestly. It's funny to me. My next question is. Did you get to keep anything from set as like a souvenir? Did they give you any like parting gifts when filming had wrapped? We actually did.

[01:08:26] We got to keep kind of like the back of our chairs. That said like our character names and a set of goosebumps on it. So that was really cute. And I also just went into the wardrobe trailer. And I was like, can I keep a couple stuff? And they're like, yeah. That's awesome. But yeah. But I, you know, I, my suitcase was so full just from like living in New York for five months. That I was like, I don't have space for anything.

[01:08:54] Because if not, I probably would have like stolen a couple of things. But yeah. I don't say you didn't keep any scraped pieces or. Pieces of cake. You kept like a, like a piece of flesh. Or like a bag of goo. I think that would have been cooler. Oh yeah, definitely. I would have kept like the gross things. Just being like, ah, memories. Yeah. That represents goosebumps to a T. I mean, when we had, so when we had Ben Cackel on here, he played Harold Biddle in season one.

[01:09:24] We asked him the same thing. And he got to keep the back of his chair. But the one thing he did get to keep. Did you get to watch season one before coming into season two, by the way? Okay. So remember like when he showed himself and it was the burned version of himself. Yeah. So he got to keep the prosthetic burn pieces that he got to wear. Whoa. Showing those. I was like, oh, that's so gnarly. That's so gross. Because they look gross. That's amazing. Oh my God. Yeah.

[01:09:53] No, that's nothing. That's like, that's nothing compared to like, I just got to keep clothes. And he's like, yeah, I got to keep like. He showed us, he keeps it in a bag and it's like, it's so gross looking. It's just like, yep, this is the, this is my burnt flesh in a bag. I love it. I love it. I love that too. I would do that. I'm wondering if you got to keep some scraped pieces or, you know, some black goo somewhere.

[01:10:21] Or maybe if you stole the prosthetic eyepiece that David had, you know, David's eye. Yeah. I should have asked for that. Maybe David has it. We'll have to ask. I would sure hope so. Can you imagine he just has it like on a mantle somewhere? Just his disembodied eye. On display, proper case and everything. And then people come in and be like, what is that? Almost like friends awards.

[01:10:49] And then he just has an eye like right there next to it. His head. Yeah. Oh, that would be a cool piece to keep. And so it was actually a replica of his head. I don't know. It'd be kind of, would it be weird if you kept a thing of your own head that they gave you? I don't know. I'm back with it. I would die. We both did it. Yeah. Well, that's true. Catherine Long kept hers. So. So you guys got to do a lot of press for this season.

[01:11:19] Like you guys got to go to all these different places. You know, you guys got to go to the Mets game and do a whole thing there. There was this big photo shoot with I don't even know where it was, but it was like a big like stay out of the basement with like yellow tape across from it. Like just so many cool things. What was like the best parts of the press tour? Guys. That was hilarious. Yeah. That was a plant guy who was planted there.

[01:11:49] That was a photo op that they had that they like set up and they scared us. They got us so good. But I think I think it was also interactive, too. So anyone could just ring the doorbell and like a noise would play. And I heard like my own scream in there as well, which was really funny. But yeah, that was that was really fun. Yeah. Yeah. Was there like any other like highlights from the the tour of press on this season for you? Oh, my gosh.

[01:12:18] Comic Con was a big one. I've always wanted to go to Comic Con and it was my first time there. And just having it be my first time and also being like on a panel was crazy. So that was really fun. And then we were begging for some time to just like walk around and see cool stuff. So that was just such nice moment. Definitely. Yeah.

[01:12:46] I mean, again, it just seemed like there was so much like cool stuff. And then also there was a bunch of like little tie in promotions for the season. So I'm curious to know, what did you think of like some of the cool drinks that came out for for Goosebumps to Vanishing? Of course, we got the pure green botanist blend and the better booch kombucha and the matcha from Teaspoonful. I have my souvenir cups. I'm such a big matcha fan.

[01:13:15] And so I didn't even know they were coming out with that until I saw the post and I was like, what? What? Without telling me? Are you guys crazy? So I think I just like I ran to my nearest teaspoon and I got that. And it was actually so good. And it had boba in it and I didn't even like boba. And it made me like boba. Insane. That's the power of Goosebumps. It makes me like boba. Good. I don't know because I got the kombucha and I don't like kombucha.

[01:13:44] That one's okay. I will say maybe it's because they put like fall spices type thing in it. So it was not terrible. But I had my daughter try it. And yeah, she didn't like it either. But she and some other people had said like it tastes like beer. So my first question to her, of course, was like, how do you know what beer tastes like? You're 15. Turns out she accidentally took a drink out of her stepdad, Stanley.

[01:14:13] And that's happened before. So that's fine. I'll believe her on that standpoint. But the fact remains, yeah, kombucha itself, not good. I don't know how Cece could drink all that. I think I'd rather be chased by the monster blood in the show than to drink more kombucha. Honestly, yeah. I mean, I'm not a fan of kombucha either. So we're going to have to get Cece to review it. Yeah, definitely. I was going to say, like, she drinks it every day, apparently.

[01:14:43] Or if that was something else in the show. Like, do you know if that was actually, did they make her drink kombucha? It was like, because she had a drink like a lot. She always seemed to have it on her. She drank it like everything. I think it was another thing. I don't know what it was. It was not kombucha. Probably for the best. Yeah. Who knows how much of that before maybe turning into a monster. Yeah.

[01:15:11] So I guess a few more questions before we wrap things up. So, you know, all said and done, like, you know, Goosebumps to Vanishing is out now. You know, all said and done now, like, what's your personal experience? What came out today? Did I get my copy? Yep. Yeah. It came off Amazon truck today. So I'm assuming it came out officially yesterday?

[01:15:41] Today, technically. I haven't had a chance to actually read it yet because I just got it today. But. So I just wanted to know. Bonus ending. So I don't know. Maybe we'll see. If it's Trey or Devin. Who'd she pick? We'll find out. Wait, there's an ending? It does end. Apparently, there's like a bonus ending. It does end. So like, you're going to probably find out what happens after the ending of the show.

[01:16:10] Wait, that's so interesting. Because we actually shot like two alternative endings. So I'm wondering if it's that. Okay. So I just wanted to, you know, ask, you know, with all said and done, you know, like, what's just been the overall experience looking back on it? Amazing. It's been like, honestly, something I can't even put into words.

[01:16:37] I think that I've always wanted to do a project like this and to finally be able to do that and to do horror and to be in New York and to work with such incredible actors. It's honestly been a dream come true. Definitely. I mean, me personally, if I had the chance to be in a Goosebumps show, it would probably be just like the greatest thing ever.

[01:17:03] But I mean, you know, it's just I can imagine it's just such an incredible experience going from like beginning to end. Just, you know, all the different things you get to do in the show and then, you know, promoting it. Yeah, I can only imagine. It's been so fun and so like supportive and loving. And I just I also love seeing online just like the fans reactions to it. It's it's been great. It's been so well received. And I'm just like, oh, thank you.

[01:17:33] You know, it's it's crazy. And it's so nerve wracking to come in to like a franchise that's already so loved. And I think, you know, as an actor, you're just thinking, OK, like, don't mess this up because, you know, you have a lot like writing on this. And so just seeing people actually love this season, just it makes me so happy. Absolutely. If you ever had the chance to, you know, star in another Goosebumps episode and you had the choice of what book to do, would you have a preference?

[01:18:03] Oh, my gosh. Well, OK, because I always thought like so this season like ends with. Oh, Gravesend High class of like 2025. And so I'm wondering if, you know, maybe next season. I'm like, it's anthology. We're not going back.

[01:18:26] But, you know, hypothetically, hypothetically, if we do something, I think it'd be really cool to kind of like do something. I know there's books where like the teacher turns into monsters. It's like my friends call me monster or something like that. And it's like and it also ties into the whole alien thing with like her, the teacher, like hatching eggs. So I thought that could be really cool. I don't know.

[01:18:54] Just let me let me just text the writers real quick. I'm like, guys. Yeah, it's like, look, you guys are sitting on good ideas here. That's wonderful. I mean, when you got your script, if that's one of the things like when they tease this season, they showed a tree, but they also showed an egg. Was egg monsters from Mars something that they were supposed to do and then changed it?

[01:19:23] Because then the poster changed later. It's the same image, but they removed the egg. It's like they thought maybe they gave too much away, but then we never really got a egg monsters from Mars type alien episode. Yeah, I don't know, because I think that I think the egg was more so of like what they throw up. And it was kind of this like egg creature thing. But the only thing that they were telling us was like, don't mention anything about aliens.

[01:19:52] Don't do like when you do an interview, just like keep it hush hush. So that was very something that they wanted to be this like grand reveal. So I don't even know if that image was supposed to come out. Well, we're we're we're a very investigative sort in the Goosebumps community. So anything comes out, we're like, oh, you're on it. Yeah. And just get constant inboxes from people like on my page all the time.

[01:20:22] People find something within the community like, oh, did you see this? Do you want to talk about it? You know what this is? I'm just like, OK, I don't have to investigate. Like, I just get things sent to me all the time. So hey, I know. And I love this. I love how you guys have this whole like Goosebumps community where you could just like talk about your favorite stuff, shows and stuff. Yeah, absolutely. It's it's a great place to just talk and, you know, just have fun. Really, it honestly is.

[01:20:52] And, you know, the fact that, you know, we always talk about this with the 90s stuff, but it's true for, you know, you know, this show. So it's like this franchise is growing up with generations of kids. And this is Goosebumps for a new generation of, you know, kids and young adults who may be interested in getting into it. You know, we had some of the older stuff, but, you know, that's the beauty of a long running franchise.

[01:21:16] So, you know, hopefully this series is bringing in those brand new fans to read these books. Yeah. Yeah. And I agree. And I think I think you also said this earlier in our chat that you don't really even need like the prior knowledge of of Goosebumps to kind of jump into this series because it is such a such a standalone. But if you do have that knowledge, it just makes it 10 times better. Yeah, definitely.

[01:21:45] You catch up on all the little Easter eggs and things that they add in. And it just makes for a very fun experience in just about every single way. So I definitely echo that in terms of horror in general, you know, Goosebumps is said and done. But would I guess this is kind of a no brainer question? Would you ever have interest in returning to the horror genre? Yes, absolutely. Do you have any like favorite kind of horror?

[01:22:15] Like I know you said you like analog horror, but like is there like sort of a subgenre of horror? You went out 80s, but 80s. Is a broad term because 80s and 90s is really when huge horror boom hit because, you know, obviously I had Friday the 13th and then you had Nightmare on Elm Street, you had Scream that came in the 90s. And so wide, wide range of stuff that came out in the 80s to early 90s. What's your favorite? I don't know.

[01:22:45] I mean, it's it's really funny because I I wasn't even allowed to watch horror when I was younger. So I think I'm I feel so behind on like movies and stuff like that, because I think that I've only kind of started rewatching like all of the classics like recently to kind of know my stuff. So, yeah, but I think so when I was younger, I wasn't allowed to watch horror.

[01:23:09] So I think 80s dark fantasy is kind of the closest that I got to kind of that like eerie vibe. And then now I think just classics like there's The Shining, there's Carrie. There's just yeah, I'm like going down my list. I'm on I'm on Letterboxd. I'm like searching most iconic horror films. And and I love it. And, you know, even though I didn't watch movies, I also like I think that's why I'm

[01:23:38] so into like Internet horror, because like my mom wouldn't be so like, what are you doing on the Internet? Yeah. You know, it's kind of we're talking like creepypasta horror slender. And mainly ARGs would, you know, it's like the scavenger hunt across the Internet was always very intriguing to me. And I was also really into horror video games.

[01:24:03] So like Five Nights at Freddy's or like The Last of Us that I mentioned earlier, just like those kind of games like I really loved. So, yeah, my my my relationship with horror is like all over the place. But it's always been something that I've just loved and been drawn to just kind of that darker, spooky, eerie feeling, you know, definitely. I what's your what you said dark fantasy. So what are your so are you talking about like, well, maybe labyrinth or are you talking more

[01:24:31] like dark crystal? Yeah. Yeah. Or like I was really obsessed with like the never ending story. Those people and that like girl just looking so majestic and Falkor, that dog dragon person. And, you know, that's what I think when I think of like practical effects to just like that, you know, because I remember seeing photos of like the actual dog dragon and just wanting

[01:25:00] him to be in my room and, you know, just adopting. But the things like that, you know, I was just I've always kind of loved that that stuff that like practical effects. It's 80s. Like everything is done. And what you see in person is what you see on camera. It's awesome. Absolutely. Definitely. This is my favorite film of all time. Never ending story. Oh, my God. We're on the page. It's like my favorite childhood film.

[01:25:30] Absolutely. It's a classic in every way. Not another good film with practical effects. It is. They just released the giant 4K replica never ending story. Yeah, they did. It's really expensive, but there's only like, I think, 2,500 or something made. There's not many. It's like the book from the film, but like a full replica with like the actual snake pendant on the front. It opens up. It's got like a script inside. It's got postcards.

[01:25:59] It's got like, it's probably the coolest thing they brought out for the 40th anniversary last year. Wow. That's insane. Oh, my gosh. That's so cool. That is awesome. Has there been any word on any sort of gossip on a possible season three of Goosebumps? I wish I knew. I wish I did. I wish I could tease something right now. I haven't heard anything. I wish I could tease something.

[01:26:27] Um, the, the, the girl who plays Alex on the show, Francesca Noel, she and I were like, we should make a video game. And so we keep texting like Rob Letterman to make a video game. And we're sending like, we're like, and then, and then we all have like our catchphrase and then we can have these special powers. Um, so we're really pushing for this. That's really cool.

[01:26:55] Well, if you ever need backup, you know, we'd be happy to go to Carland. Oh, I was going to say. There you go. That'd be awesome. I'd be down for that. We'd be happy to help if ever need be. Good. I'm going to, I'm going to make a petition. I need you guys to sign it. Oh, we'll sign it. We'll sign it 10 times. We'll go under five different alias. Max speed. Yeah, that's good.

[01:27:23] Um, and I guess one final thing. Uh, do you have anything just to say to all the Goosebumps fans out there that watched the show, enjoyed it and, uh, you know, hoping to see more in the future? Yeah. I mean, thank you for watching season two. I hope you enjoyed it and thank you for all of the love that we've been getting. I think so much love was put into the show. And so to see it be, like I said, so well received and I hope you enjoyed all the,

[01:27:51] all the little references and all the little things in there. And, um, and yeah, and we had, we had a blast filming it. Truly. I think everyone involved with this project really, really loved just being there and being in the world of Goosebumps. And thank you for letting me immerse myself in this world. Absolutely. And hopefully it won't be the last time, uh, you know, there's always hope for the future.

[01:28:16] So, but, uh, that's going to do it for tonight's episode of the Goosebumps crew podcast. Uh, thank you so much for joining us and, uh, talking some Goosebumps with us. It was an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. This was so fun. I'm, I'm glad, I'm glad I'm like slowly vanishing into the darkness at the end. It's fitting, but we'd be happy to, you know, if you ever want to come back on and talk some more Goosebumps, we'd be happy to have you back on.

[01:28:46] So, uh, you know, thank you again. Unbelievably so. Amazing. Yeah. I'd love that. Absolutely. So thank you again to Galileo LaSalvia. Go follow her on social media. We'll leave links in the description below. So go check out her social media follower. Give her the support. She really does deserve it as well as the rest of the cast of the Vanishing, uh, because they're all awesome. Um, and, uh, we're not just saying that because she's right here with us, but, uh, as always,

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