Arete Podcast #20: What Makes a Good Movie? With Cinedump

[00:00:35] Hello everyone, welcome to this episode of The Arete Podcast. I'm joined today by a very special guest.

[00:00:42] My, actually, is the first time I've ever spoken in person, isn't it?

[00:00:45] Yeah, it's mostly three emails. I did a little digging on Facebook while we were getting everything set up and I was like, okay, now I know what he looks like so it won't be awkward.

[00:00:57] Yeah, I knew what you looked like for him because I watched the interview you did with the Goosebumps group who are the sponsor of today's episode. So thanks to those guys for all the work they do and we'll talk a little bit more about them.

[00:01:08] You know, I'm sure they'll come up organically.

[00:01:12] Sure.

[00:01:12] What?

[00:01:13] So we're just here to kind of riff about movies have a good time nerd out a bit as I can see from the wall behind you.

[00:01:21] There's no shortage of fandom and are those all VHS tapes I'm given to understand.

[00:01:27] Yeah, so behind me is all VHS is mostly stuff like that stuck on on VHS and then to my to my left is all DVD and that upstairs I have Blue Ray.

[00:01:42] But for the most part, yeah, it's like collections and like just weird stuff that like you don't really see in stores or I mean or you don't really see anywhere really.

[00:01:54] But yeah, like right now I have this like that's a nation with stuff recorded off of television. Like as a kid I would always pause the commercials and now it's like man I really wish that I would have kept recording because that's what I'm after those little time capsules now but.

[00:02:13] It's amazing how much of that is on YouTube now of the old commercial blocks and in fact.

[00:02:21] I mean you just have to Google them, but you can search for actual like not just commercials but also TV bumpers from like the old television blocks, whether it's the kids the kids stuff's really popular like the Fox kids Saturday morning bumper stuff like that but then also like the TGIF prime time lineup but it just millions of views on these super short TV bumpers and it's just like this is the same.

[00:02:43] And it's like this stuff we hated when we were actually watching TV an hour but it was like.

[00:02:49] I missed those days I honestly this might be a hot take I do miss the old TV model for for multitude of reasons.

[00:02:57] Not least of which it's funny my friend Justin and I were just talking about this when we were recording our Star Trek watch along podcast and we were sort of lamenting how.

[00:03:07] Don't get me wrong I love streaming I love the convenience I love the just wealth of titles that I can like there's no way I can watch everything on even one app why I have like five I don't know but.

[00:03:19] It's just they're really praying on that I want to be able to watch it when I want to and it doesn't matter that I'm paying a monthly fee right.

[00:03:28] But.

[00:03:29] I remember how exciting TV used to be.

[00:03:33] Yeah it's it's kind of lost that cluster of like be event like the the Friday night you know the family gather around you know the TV and or the Sunday night movie.

[00:03:46] It's it's a big deal essentially when like tonight I believe penguin premieres but like once that goes live it's like okay cool and so you can kind of still like a.

[00:03:59] Establish like the idea of the weekly show kind of like with game of thrones and stuff but even that like you kind of lose or they kind of lose fans because like you were kind of alluding to people just want it then and now and want to binge.

[00:04:16] So it's it's a double-edged sword if you will and but yeah my mom particularly I'll go over to their house and she'll just like play live TV and then she'll just like kind of go through whatever's live and yet she's the one that pays for every.

[00:04:33] And she.

[00:04:34] But she still stuck on the live TV she likes to go through it and look at like what's showing it eight and which I guess if you kind of grew up with it like like I mean I did as well but my mom is like that's just it's like you cut a catch it and passing and once you're stuck in and in that idea it's really hard to kind of shift from.

[00:04:58] No it is and I I would suspect you're from a similar generation of me where I constantly say this if you're you're like an older millennial correct.

[00:05:08] I'm making a correct assumption here yeah I'm 37 oh okay we're the exact same age so yeah I constantly say this that we are actually the luckiest generation to have ever lived thus far because we're old enough to remember what the world was like like we we

[00:05:27] were old enough to have lived in it and remember and be able to operate in the world before the widespread see well before the internet is certainly before the widespread for a liberation of the internet before smartphones but way before streaming like yeah.

[00:05:43] You know the internet was a novelty when we first got a hold of it and it was like you know one of your friend group got the internet and you were like oh you have the internet.

[00:05:53] So we remember what life was like before and after high speed internet which led to streaming and all that and.

[00:06:05] To me that makes it to where we can appreciate all the great stuff that we get from it.

[00:06:12] But we can operate without it we're not dependent we're not as dependent on because let's be where we're all dependent on these now.

[00:06:19] Yeah I'm not gonna act like I'm not but we if these ceased to function it would suck.

[00:06:26] But we you know we we know what to do yeah we'd get all the obviously based on what's behind me.

[00:06:33] Exactly physical made I do miss physical media to I really do you just you just can't get over the ease of.

[00:06:40] You know buying a movie digitally although who was a funnamation recently I say recently within the last like year so gotten into some heart hot water because they merge with crunchy roll.

[00:06:53] And there if they haven't already they discontinued their app and this isn't so much streaming because they honestly could have integrated the purchases they just chose not to.

[00:07:03] But a lot of people were up in arms because if you purchased something through the foundation app it will not be available.

[00:07:10] When it integrates in a crunchy roll and my friend Eric is just like physical media they can take it away from you.

[00:07:18] Yep yeah and and like that's kind of why I do what I do just because like.

[00:07:23] The VHS specifically I it's just it's like the nostalgic aspect of it and then also to it's like I just remember.

[00:07:32] I guess this is still nostalgia but picking up the item carrying it through the store taking the time selecting it holding it all the way home.

[00:07:40] It's you actually have a physical item in your hand it's heavy has a like wait to it and all of those things kind of play into the VHS world for me.

[00:07:52] The only reason that I would ever get rid of one is if there's like a better version or like.

[00:07:59] Like I upgrade often but if there's like like if I have a VHS that there's a release or something that's not available on DVD or Blu-ray I try to hang on to it.

[00:08:11] Now with VHS in particular it's it's mostly nostalgia because like my kids like I've I have a nine year old like he he grew up with VHS he's probably the only kid in his school the group of VHS.

[00:08:25] But even with him like he got obsessed with trains and he he had so many trained videos that I mean they're not going to put all those on DVD they're not going to put all those on streaming so like a lot of the stuff that he is going to be nostalgic for you know 10 years from now.

[00:08:43] I have no idea how he's going to find it or like even like unless I digitize it form of course but it's it's just it's funny it's like a right a passage at our house and because of which I've been featured in a lot of documentary sports physical media and VHS specifically but.

[00:09:04] I just I just love it and it's for all the reasons you mentioned like I don't buy digital films like I get you know the digital digital releases with my with my movies and I'll redeem them but I'm not going to go out of my way and spend 15 bucks on something that.

[00:09:23] You know could disappear once voodoo or whoever you know dissolves or merges with somebody else because in that fine print you know iTunes included if it says they want to get rid of it they can and we all know how.

[00:09:42] These contracts work you know once they expire their goes your your digital copy you know from for most things so.

[00:09:51] Particularly when you start getting into licensing which usually at least thus far hasn't been as big a new issue for purchases but when you get into those really niche apps like a phonemation.

[00:10:02] Yeah, you know where that may be the only place you could put Amazon's a little bit different because they sell.

[00:10:10] So I know the licensing is way different to purchase versus you know stream but that's all that's a.

[00:10:16] That's a very specific area that nobody wants to hear about because it's boring but.

[00:10:20] You should you should know because we get asked a lot through the various podcasts like oh, why isn't this available in this it's like well.

[00:10:28] It's all got to do with who owns the rights to it and with long running French I got to is a good example.

[00:10:34] Because people are like oh, why are all these Godzilla movies will want to be but not these it's like well.

[00:10:40] Who's the rights holder for the United way back in the day, especially it's not like I don't even know who the.

[00:10:48] US distributor for Japanese god fill of Godzilla films is right now, but I'm just going to.

[00:10:54] Let's say a universal just a pulling a mouth let's say universe was distributing all the Japanese godzilla films post 2020.

[00:11:01] They're not but for us for example prior to that prior to that it could have been paramount or prior to that it could have been new line cinema or Disney.

[00:11:10] In the case of one film Shin Godzilla it was actually distributed by the animation.

[00:11:18] And it is only available not for purchase it's only available for streaming in the United States on Funamation and country roll but on their premium plan so.

[00:11:27] That would be why not such a big deal with newer media because they tend to buy the license as is until it expires, but then it just transfers but.

[00:11:36] Yeah, South Park streaming wars is actually quite educational if you understand what they're making fun of.

[00:11:43] Yeah it really does kind of walk you through that process and how ridiculous it isn't how.

[00:11:47] Matt Matt and tray actually gained the system again.

[00:11:51] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:51] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:51] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:51] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:52] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:53] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:53] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:53] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:54] And so I think I'm going to kind of move on to that in a couple of ways to understand it.

[00:11:54] It's 10 times funnier.

[00:11:55] It's funny on itself, but God, it's 10 times funnier.

[00:12:00] So I'll switch gears a little bit.

[00:12:01] Let you talk about yourself a bit.

[00:12:03] Tell the viewers who probably don't know.

[00:12:06] My viewers probably don't know what is synodump.

[00:12:08] How did it get started?

[00:12:10] What's it all about?

[00:12:11] What's what's the deal with synodump?

[00:12:14] So synodump is a website where we interview actors, directors.

[00:12:19] Pretty much any one of interest.

[00:12:22] Like if I want to do an entry of someone that I think is interesting, like we've had astronauts,

[00:12:29] you know, wrestlers, you know, whoever I think might get a click or I just want to talk to them.

[00:12:36] And like porn stars that I've met in restaurants, just whoever.

[00:12:41] That's kind of who I consider talent.

[00:12:43] And I want to talk to them.

[00:12:45] The goosebumps guys as well.

[00:12:47] You know, that was probably one of my favorite conversations in a long, long time.

[00:12:52] But we also do reviews.

[00:12:55] We do retro reviews.

[00:12:57] A lot of cover a lot of festivals as well.

[00:13:00] And like right now, and I'm handling fantastic fest remotely.

[00:13:04] It's my favorite festival.

[00:13:06] And as much as I wish that I was there to see terrifying three, I am not.

[00:13:13] And I'm not even a terrifying fan, but I feel like watching that in a theater with fans.

[00:13:18] I think that that would probably be the way to watch that film or those films.

[00:13:24] But yeah, so the website started.

[00:13:27] I used to go to Almo Dravtowse a lot.

[00:13:31] Like to the point of, I would be there every day and people just assumed that I would be there every day.

[00:13:36] I worked there.

[00:13:38] And I was also a heavy drinker at the time.

[00:13:41] I'm now sober, but I would just watch movies and drink almost as soon as I got off work.

[00:13:48] And it got to the point where I was sitting at the part one day.

[00:13:50] And I was talking to this guy who reviewed films.

[00:13:54] And his name is Jason Howard.

[00:13:56] And he wrote for a magazine.

[00:13:58] And I was like, well, how does somebody get into that?

[00:14:01] Because you know, I went to school for film.

[00:14:04] I went to school for English as well.

[00:14:07] So I can write, you know, I know what I'm looking for.

[00:14:10] And he's like, oh, okay, well, shoot me your email, shoot me your info.

[00:14:14] And I'll pitch you and maybe we can get you on the magazine.

[00:14:18] And this was a magazine based out of California.

[00:14:21] So it was all remote.

[00:14:22] They basically just sent you screeners and you reviewed them.

[00:14:26] And you know, I enjoyed that at the time.

[00:14:28] And then as time went on, I was like not really loving the stuff that they were sending me.

[00:14:35] And I was like, I could easily just do this myself.

[00:14:41] So I kind of, oh, and then I didn't like the way that they would like give me a film to review

[00:14:46] and then kind of like bury it.

[00:14:48] If I thought if I, because I'm going to give you an honest opinion of the film,

[00:14:52] do it bad in between.

[00:14:54] I'm going to give you the pros, the cons.

[00:14:57] And I'm going to give you my voice as well.

[00:14:59] And they didn't like that.

[00:15:00] They wanted all the reviews to be positive.

[00:15:02] And that's just not how I worked.

[00:15:05] I wasn't.

[00:15:06] Well, you'll lose viewers so quickly.

[00:15:09] If everything you do is positive it becomes obvious that you're just,

[00:15:12] you know, maybe not directly getting paid literally.

[00:15:16] But like you're being told to say nice things, especially when a movie is just obviously bad.

[00:15:21] It's very transparent.

[00:15:22] Yeah, exactly. And like I try to highlight the good as well.

[00:15:26] I mean like we all saw the new crow.

[00:15:29] There are things I like about it as well.

[00:15:31] But now I'll be honest there.

[00:15:33] It was better than I thought it was going to.

[00:15:35] We talked about it on two talk two point out a couple weeks ago.

[00:15:39] And my co-host there virus was like, it was shit.

[00:15:41] It was shit.

[00:15:41] I was like, well, I mean, it wasn't good.

[00:15:46] But there were aspects that I liked about it that I,

[00:15:50] it was better than I thought it was going to be.

[00:15:51] But my expectation was like below the basement.

[00:15:56] So, but yeah, it was not a good movie.

[00:15:58] Especially if you've seen the original just in my contrast.

[00:16:01] It's like, oh my god.

[00:16:03] Well, I saw the crow and then I saw a free back to back.

[00:16:07] And I will say that the crow was better because you know,

[00:16:12] AI horror, you know, you can do it.

[00:16:14] And you can do it poorly.

[00:16:15] And unfortunately, your parade was like lackluster at best.

[00:16:22] But yeah, so anyway, I got drunk one night and made a website.

[00:16:25] And there that became synod up.

[00:16:28] And I basically taught myself how to code.

[00:16:30] I, you know, I dust off the my space, you know,

[00:16:34] tools that I knew.

[00:16:36] And you know, I took all of my, my contacts.

[00:16:40] And you know, I reached out to all my PR companies and people I knew.

[00:16:43] And you know, I like to bring a certain like kind of assholeness

[00:16:50] to my interviews. And

[00:16:52] it kind of works out like I always in most of them trying to pitch

[00:16:57] myself to be into whoever's next movie or next show. I'm

[00:17:01] like, let me know if you need a fat guy. And you

[00:17:04] know, more often than not, you know, I've

[00:17:06] made friends like that. And I've

[00:17:07] gotten in films. I've been

[00:17:10] an actor.

[00:17:10] I just a couple of years ago.

[00:17:13] I shot a film with Dave Shirt in from Scary Movie and

[00:17:16] Phyllis Rose from Sleepway Camp.

[00:17:19] It's called Cult of Blood.

[00:17:20] It's being released very soon.

[00:17:23] So, you know, you can be professional.

[00:17:26] But in your self and honest all at the same time.

[00:17:30] And because of that, I've kind of opened doors through productions,

[00:17:36] contacts.

[00:17:36] And you know, and now at this point it's mostly synodump

[00:17:41] and Jesse are kind of like their own brand if you will.

[00:17:45] It kind of goes hand in hand.

[00:17:47] So yeah, I love it.

[00:17:49] I'm honestly excited to finish watching because I have an entire

[00:17:54] inbox full of stuff I need to watch for fantastic

[00:17:56] fest.

[00:17:58] And basically that's my Christmas even though I like

[00:18:01] Christmas too.

[00:18:02] Yeah.

[00:18:06] And I think that's what I'm doing.

[00:18:07] Because you would set me an email in regards to the

[00:18:12] Convention that the goosebumps crew and we too.

[00:18:16] We're partner with them.

[00:18:16] But it's their baby.

[00:18:18] So I don't like to say hour event because it's like

[00:18:21] we're involved but it's really their baby.

[00:18:23] They're the guys that brought virtually every

[00:18:26] everyone to the table.

[00:18:28] Yeah.

[00:18:28] And I was like, okay.

[00:18:31] Yeah.

[00:18:32] I'll check everybody out when the email me,

[00:18:34] especially if they you know,

[00:18:36] inquire about that.

[00:18:37] You'd be amazed how many people hit us up.

[00:18:39] And we're just like trying to get for example.

[00:18:41] There was one guy who hit us up and was like,

[00:18:43] yeah, I've got 20 guests that we can get there.

[00:18:46] We're like cool.

[00:18:46] Yeah.

[00:18:47] Here's the letter of intent bubble.

[00:18:49] Well, I'll let you know if any questions weeks go by weeks go by.

[00:18:51] It's like, hey, just checking in.

[00:18:52] Like not trying to bother you but you sounded very

[00:18:56] wrong about this.

[00:18:57] So just checking in.

[00:18:59] And then it got really weird.

[00:19:00] Yeah, I'm not going to name names.

[00:19:03] I could tell you all there but he contacted me,

[00:19:09] Nick and Isaiah separately.

[00:19:13] Trying to get Katherine Long's contact information.

[00:19:17] There enough.

[00:19:18] And I was so proud of those guys because I didn't know.

[00:19:22] We found out by chance because Nick asked you,

[00:19:25] what's the answer?

[00:19:25] So I was like, hey, if you heard from so-and-so,

[00:19:27] it was like, no, we all gave essentially the same answer.

[00:19:33] Which is like, no, we're not going to give you her information.

[00:19:37] We don't represent her.

[00:19:39] She's made it clear to the guys that she's not really looking for that.

[00:19:42] And it's so inappropriate for us to do that.

[00:19:45] So we're not even going to consider it.

[00:19:47] If that makes this not happen, then that's that's fine.

[00:19:51] And they all, you know, we're like, oh yeah, he reached out to me too.

[00:19:53] And I told him that.

[00:19:54] I was like, I'm so proud of you guys.

[00:19:57] Because like, yeah, this was not a group decision.

[00:19:59] Everybody was like, no.

[00:20:01] Yeah, with the whole convention aspect of it,

[00:20:06] I, you know, we had our discussion and then I told them,

[00:20:09] you know, in Texas down here, I have,

[00:20:12] I have contacts and I also help with conventions.

[00:20:15] I help with Houston Horror, I help with cold plastic.

[00:20:18] I help with Texas right mayor.

[00:20:19] I help pick films.

[00:20:21] So like, yeah, the circuit, I guess you could say it's very,

[00:20:26] like we all know each other.

[00:20:28] Some of us don't like each other.

[00:20:30] But, you know, I can give advice or like, you know,

[00:20:33] point people in the right direction.

[00:20:34] It's really what you do with that.

[00:20:37] And I mean, especially with Katherine Long,

[00:20:38] you should know there's, you know,

[00:20:41] it's like, you'd be surprised.

[00:20:44] Like when people see my interviews,

[00:20:45] like kind of like you're saying,

[00:20:47] people will come out of the woodwork.

[00:20:49] Like from people I went to high school with and,

[00:20:53] you know, college, I'm like, hey, can I get their number?

[00:20:55] And I'm like, do it.

[00:20:57] I mean, there are people that I have their number.

[00:21:00] There are people that I have their email,

[00:21:01] but like, I'm not giving it to you.

[00:21:04] Like that's just, like, I haven't talked to you in 20 years,

[00:21:07] bro.

[00:21:08] Like, like, come on now.

[00:21:10] So it's, it's a weird world.

[00:21:14] But, you know, I count my blessings,

[00:21:16] but sometimes it's like to just just enjoy the content.

[00:21:21] Like that, that is absolutely.

[00:21:24] Yeah, speaking of the convention though,

[00:21:25] we are as anybody who's with Paul,

[00:21:28] we get nose.

[00:21:29] The Kickstarter did not reach its goal,

[00:21:31] but we are not defeated.

[00:21:32] We are actually currently.

[00:21:35] We're, we're, we're pitching to, well,

[00:21:38] not a few.

[00:21:38] We're pitching to a great number of investors

[00:21:41] and we're pretty, we're confident.

[00:21:43] And we'll confident that we'll get somebody to help fund the venture.

[00:21:47] And we've actually escalated it into a full convention company

[00:21:51] called Dreamboy, but when we can,

[00:21:54] the horror land is going to be our flagship event.

[00:21:57] So look out for that on the horizon.

[00:21:59] We're, we're going to make it happen.

[00:22:00] It may not, it may not be this year,

[00:22:02] but we're going to make it happen.

[00:22:04] Awesome, man.

[00:22:05] Yeah, I think it's a great idea.

[00:22:06] And like those guys kind of reignited a love for goosebumps

[00:22:10] and like, like young adult horror in me.

[00:22:15] I mean, even before that meeting,

[00:22:19] I was kind of going through the motions of like reading those books to my son.

[00:22:24] You know, it's just kind of, he's, he's nine.

[00:22:26] And we're every couple weeks,

[00:22:28] we pick up a new one, but just talking to them.

[00:22:31] It kind of, they have this like child, like,

[00:22:34] love about them.

[00:22:35] And it was just a great conversation.

[00:22:37] I watched their podcast now.

[00:22:42] And so at the end of the day, regardless of the convention,

[00:22:45] you know, even existing or not,

[00:22:47] you know, I'm happy that I cross past with you as well as them

[00:22:51] because otherwise, I mean, I love my VHS,

[00:22:55] but goosebumps, man.

[00:22:56] It kind of, it took me right back.

[00:22:58] It was really fun.

[00:22:59] It's funny how, because I, and they know this,

[00:23:01] I've said this many times to them.

[00:23:03] It's like, I obviously grew up and I watched it and I read them.

[00:23:06] But I was never, not even close to being a super fan like,

[00:23:10] Darwin, Nick or those guys.

[00:23:13] But man, you watched their podcast and I can say this as somebody who's not a goose bumps,

[00:23:16] super fan.

[00:23:17] It's still entertaining as hell.

[00:23:19] I still have it right time when I listen to their episodes.

[00:23:22] And just, you can feel the genuine love of the franchise that they have.

[00:23:26] That's something you can't fake when they go that deep into it.

[00:23:30] And then all you have to do is look at Bjorn's special room

[00:23:33] and it becomes quite obvious that you don't fake that.

[00:23:36] That's a very expensive thing to fake.

[00:23:39] This is just a collection.

[00:23:41] But yeah, those guys are great.

[00:23:43] Bob cast is incredible and we're very, very proud to be friends and associates with them.

[00:23:50] Yeah, that's an awesome, nice guy.

[00:23:51] Awesome, guys, which since they are disponsored,

[00:23:54] we can let you know if you're even, like I said,

[00:23:57] even if you're remotely a fan of goose bumps or 90s who are young at a horror in general,

[00:24:02] check out their podcasts. They're new episodes go up every Wednesday.

[00:24:07] And it's always, it's always a blast.

[00:24:09] They're first episode, which I'm not even seen the Disney Plus series.

[00:24:14] And I was still entertained when they tore it to shreds.

[00:24:18] It's like this is hilarious.

[00:24:19] So check them out.

[00:24:21] It's a fantastic podcast and hopefully you subscribe,

[00:24:24] like and follow those guys because they're awesome.

[00:24:27] And they deserve everything.

[00:24:29] Yeah, and they have really good guests too.

[00:24:30] Like they're deep, they're deep dives.

[00:24:33] But at the same time, kind of like you're saying,

[00:24:35] even if you haven't seen the episode that they're in

[00:24:37] or if you haven't read the comic that that person wrote,

[00:24:41] like it's interesting and it makes you want to go buy it

[00:24:43] or find it.

[00:24:45] And that's, I mean, like knowing is half the battle,

[00:24:49] especially in this case because you really want to go

[00:24:51] seek out those books or those comics or those shows.

[00:24:56] And I'm a horror guy.

[00:24:59] Like I love horror.

[00:25:02] So like, I really didn't feel like that out of the loop

[00:25:07] when talking with those guys.

[00:25:09] And a lot of those actors that started on those shows

[00:25:12] kind of went on to do horror films or there's a lot

[00:25:17] of crossover with are you afraid of the dark as well?

[00:25:19] Because they were pulling from the same Canadian cast

[00:25:23] or like the same group of kids.

[00:25:25] So it's kind of fun to see like where they all went

[00:25:30] because I love that shit.

[00:25:33] But it's also quite funny because they put the bug back

[00:25:37] and meet a certain extent because I started rewatching

[00:25:39] the 90 series on Netflix.

[00:25:42] And it's amazing what goes over your head

[00:25:44] when you're a child because when I was, when it was airing

[00:25:47] originally and like I was buying the VHS tapes

[00:25:50] or watching it on TV,

[00:25:52] I didn't hear a single Canadian accent.

[00:25:54] It didn't seem weird to me.

[00:25:56] And then you watched the haunted mask one

[00:25:57] and you're just like, wow, eh?

[00:26:00] Yeah, yeah, for real.

[00:26:01] But North.

[00:26:03] Which is funny.

[00:26:04] You know what's ironic about that is that

[00:26:06] I'm actually Canadian.

[00:26:08] So like, yeah, yeah.

[00:26:10] And we actually have family down right now

[00:26:12] from Canada at my house.

[00:26:15] So it's like, it's just really odd

[00:26:17] because like I'm first generation text in as

[00:26:19] I say, but uh, Texas and Canada,

[00:26:23] they have a lot of similarities.

[00:26:25] Like it's especially Calgary is like very,

[00:26:28] very similar.

[00:26:29] Like it looks the same.

[00:26:31] Uh, there's like it's all about oil.

[00:26:34] Uh, you know, everyone wants like a four-wheeler

[00:26:36] or like a, or a mower.

[00:26:40] So it's like it's the exact same thing

[00:26:43] and they are everywhere's cowway hats

[00:26:44] in both places.

[00:26:45] So I don't really feel that album

[00:26:49] and I don't play it.

[00:26:50] Yeah, yeah.

[00:26:50] Yeah, it's for wrestling's big and both.

[00:26:52] Yes.

[00:26:53] Yeah, yeah.

[00:26:54] It's not like it's the right thing.

[00:26:55] When Owen Hart passed, uh,

[00:26:58] my grandpa was actually up there for work

[00:27:00] and he saw like all the wrestlers, uh,

[00:27:03] like on the, on at the airport and he was like

[00:27:05] telling me and I was like, that's crazy.

[00:27:08] So it's, I don't know, it's, it's small world

[00:27:10] literally.

[00:27:12] It's quite funny.

[00:27:13] Yeah, I saw where you from Calgary.

[00:27:15] No, I was born here

[00:27:16] but my mom, my mom is and we go back often,

[00:27:20] you know, go fish and stuff.

[00:27:22] And uh, all of my families either in Texas, Alaska or Canada

[00:27:26] and uh, my grandpa's the one he, you know,

[00:27:28] that made that shift.

[00:27:30] He was just coming down here for work

[00:27:32] and then never went back.

[00:27:33] So it is what it is.

[00:27:34] Pretty work in the oil industry.

[00:27:36] Is that way?

[00:27:36] Yeah.

[00:27:37] Yeah.

[00:27:39] And my dad does too.

[00:27:40] So it's funny because he's,

[00:27:43] everyone always thought I would either do oil or become a lawyer

[00:27:46] because I talk somewhat shit.

[00:27:49] But, um, you know, I do stuff like this.

[00:27:51] So, you know, it is what it is.

[00:27:52] Well, you know, it's funny too.

[00:27:54] And, you know, the phrase everyone's a critic, right?

[00:27:56] But at the same time,

[00:27:58] I'm pretty sure some is very important

[00:27:59] because I'm going to butcher this

[00:28:02] but and I don't even remember who's that.

[00:28:03] But somebody somewhere said something to the effect of

[00:28:06] if you let people make bad shit,

[00:28:09] they're just going to keep making bad shit.

[00:28:13] And it's true.

[00:28:14] So segue because we have to,

[00:28:17] I named the title what makes a good movie with synodump.

[00:28:21] So to kind of sort of tie it in,

[00:28:23] these conversations are always go everywhere

[00:28:25] but I have to ask being the critic that you are.

[00:28:28] And I've read some of your reviews and I got to say,

[00:28:32] very impressive.

[00:28:33] Because they're not just,

[00:28:34] I know your side is very comedically aimed

[00:28:37] but they actually are like,

[00:28:40] the goal is not to shit on them necessarily.

[00:28:42] It's to give pertinent information and what I really liked about

[00:28:45] the reviews, the reviews I read anyway is that

[00:28:48] it basically helps the reader decide whether or not

[00:28:51] they want to give it a shot with the information that you present.

[00:28:54] So I appreciate it that.

[00:28:56] But to your mind,

[00:28:58] why are so many movies that are coming out today?

[00:29:01] Just awful, just so bad and terrible?

[00:29:05] Do you think we're just old and set in our ways?

[00:29:08] Or do you think there's actually things you can point to

[00:29:12] that demonstrate that the quality of filmmaking is actually on a decline?

[00:29:17] Oh, I know exactly why.

[00:29:19] You know, oddly enough because it's because they're trying to cater

[00:29:23] to a broad audience and you know like we can say,

[00:29:28] you know, we want something original or niche all we want

[00:29:31] but no one's going to go see those movies in the theater.

[00:29:35] There are special cases where people do go see those movies

[00:29:39] but I mean everyone's going and seeing Marvel films.

[00:29:44] And as I like those movies too,

[00:29:46] they have a place,

[00:29:48] but I mean even Deadpool, the most recent Deadpool,

[00:29:51] I enjoyed it.

[00:29:53] But I don't think it's a five-star film.

[00:29:56] It's they catered to these dumb audiences

[00:30:00] and I mean that's kind of ultimately why

[00:30:02] we are getting these lackluster films.

[00:30:07] Not only that though,

[00:30:09] we have so many options.

[00:30:11] We have so many people making films.

[00:30:14] You know, you can make a film with an iPhone

[00:30:16] and you put it on Amazon tomorrow.

[00:30:19] That's just the world we live in.

[00:30:21] But yeah, I think it's a little bit of the fact

[00:30:25] that they are making these films for broader audiences

[00:30:29] and then also too because of streaming.

[00:30:34] I've talked this to point to death,

[00:30:41] but with streaming,

[00:30:42] they promote what they want us to see.

[00:30:45] So like the top 10 of Netflix,

[00:30:51] those are the films that they want you to see.

[00:30:52] Those are the films they put, they have money in

[00:30:55] and you're going to watch them because they're accessible.

[00:31:01] And like my mom,

[00:31:03] we're going back to her because she's the voice of reason here,

[00:31:07] especially as far as streaming.

[00:31:09] But she'll be like, why the hell are all of these movies

[00:31:11] from 1992 being suggested to me?

[00:31:15] It's because they just bought them and they want you to watch them.

[00:31:19] And there's more to that.

[00:31:22] But I mean, Netflix specifically,

[00:31:26] they'll change the thumbnail or the poster

[00:31:29] to cater to you.

[00:31:31] So like, I'm a white straight man

[00:31:34] so like I will get like villains

[00:31:36] or attractive women in my posters.

[00:31:39] My wife is going to have a completely different experience

[00:31:43] on Netflix.

[00:31:44] My son is going to have a completely different experience

[00:31:47] and it's the illusion of choice.

[00:31:52] And that choice is garbage.

[00:31:55] So if you want to find something good,

[00:31:57] you can dig deep or go to a festival and discover yourself.

[00:32:01] But for the most part,

[00:32:02] these films that we're seeing

[00:32:04] every trailer or like all of your Facebook

[00:32:09] or like every ad, a free real ad,

[00:32:12] those movies, oddly enough, are probably going to be garbage.

[00:32:15] Just hate the break and see like they're still a good time.

[00:32:18] Like I still had it like I said,

[00:32:19] I said, it's not a good time with the pro.

[00:32:21] I enjoy Beetlejuice actually quite a bit.

[00:32:25] But they're not, you know,

[00:32:27] they're not great films.

[00:32:29] They're just popcorn movies that you can take the family to.

[00:32:33] And I think sort of to defend the popcorn movies

[00:32:36] because sometimes that's just what you want.

[00:32:38] You just want to popcorn movie.

[00:32:40] I don't have a problem with them.

[00:32:42] Even ask somebody that critiques from time to time.

[00:32:44] I don't have a problem with them as long as they're honest about what they are.

[00:32:47] Like dead pulling Wolverine was never claiming to be

[00:32:50] to cite the example you used.

[00:32:53] Dead pulling Wolverine was never claiming to be a cinematic masterpiece.

[00:32:57] Everybody knew what it was,

[00:32:59] everybody knew what they were signing up for.

[00:33:01] And it delivered a hundred percent.

[00:33:04] But then you get,

[00:33:05] and of course,

[00:33:06] I'm going to space trying to think of one.

[00:33:10] But then you get movies that sort of,

[00:33:13] well, I guess you can make this case against some Marvel movies because some are excellent.

[00:33:17] And then some are just,

[00:33:19] and,

[00:33:19] but you sometimes get movies that are basically advertising themselves as these,

[00:33:25] you know,

[00:33:26] fantastic pieces of cinema and it's just popcorn movie.

[00:33:32] Which if it had marketed itself as a popcorn movie,

[00:33:35] it probably would have been fine.

[00:33:36] But because the expectations were

[00:33:38] large shall we say to put it gently.

[00:33:43] A lot of people see them and like I just got turned off of so many,

[00:33:48] so many of the recent Marvel releases really post-and game.

[00:33:52] Some have been good,

[00:33:52] don't get me wrong,

[00:33:53] some have been good.

[00:33:54] But most of them,

[00:33:54] I leave the theater,

[00:33:55] I'm just kind of like,

[00:33:56] eh,

[00:33:57] I don't know if I really want to admit to plus hours of my life to that.

[00:34:02] I'm kind of,

[00:34:03] I'm okay.

[00:34:04] And I certainly don't want to have to watch,

[00:34:06] this is my friend Justin's favorite thing.

[00:34:08] I don't want to have to do 10 hours of homework to understand what's going on in the movie.

[00:34:14] Well, that's kind of where they got you though.

[00:34:15] They got,

[00:34:16] they have you by the balls because at this point,

[00:34:18] you're,

[00:34:18] you've invested so much time and like,

[00:34:21] and money and effort.

[00:34:23] So like,

[00:34:23] you want to see what happens next.

[00:34:26] And usually you want to see what happens next first.

[00:34:28] So more often than not,

[00:34:30] you know,

[00:34:30] I am that guy,

[00:34:31] it's usually at the theater,

[00:34:33] you know,

[00:34:33] like night one with my,

[00:34:34] with my whole family because number one,

[00:34:37] this kind of goes back to the original point.

[00:34:39] It's safe,

[00:34:40] I can take the whole family.

[00:34:42] And at least I know I'll be getting at least

[00:34:44] a mid,

[00:34:44] a mid here film.

[00:34:46] That's like,

[00:34:47] it is what it is.

[00:34:48] Like I don't know.

[00:34:50] I don't know.

[00:34:50] I-I dunno,

[00:34:50] the last time I can honestly remember having

[00:34:53] a good like solid experience with

[00:34:55] a Marvel film was probably Captain America too.

[00:34:58] I think that's a,

[00:34:59] yeah,

[00:35:00] It's like a damn near-perfect film.

[00:35:01] And it is, but really, you didn't enjoy end game

[00:35:05] or not end game, I'm sorry, Infinity War to the same degree?

[00:35:09] Not really know.

[00:35:12] Sometimes it's like less is more.

[00:35:16] Oddly enough, I did like the experience

[00:35:22] of what was it, Dr. Strange II.

[00:35:25] I enjoyed that because it was such a spectacle.

[00:35:28] And then I also really enjoyed the Spider-Man

[00:35:32] when they were like all of the Spider-Man's

[00:35:34] because that blew my kid's mind.

[00:35:35] I was watching him more than I was watching the screen.

[00:35:38] See, I was, I didn't love, I, okay,

[00:35:41] I was, I was sufficiently entertained with

[00:35:45] multiverse of madness but I absolutely loved no way home.

[00:35:48] Now, of course, a few years removed.

[00:35:51] I can now admit that the film has some issues,

[00:35:53] but overall, my defense of it is it's like this movie

[00:35:57] was never meant to, again, it was never meant to be an Oscar

[00:36:00] worthy film.

[00:36:01] It was meant to get all three Spider-Man in the same movie

[00:36:04] and sell a fuck ton of movie tickets, which it did.

[00:36:10] So, well, another, it's mission.

[00:36:12] And kind of going off Spider-Man,

[00:36:14] I also really dug the animated ones like those blew me away.

[00:36:20] Like, flew me away, expectations exceeded.

[00:36:23] And that's coming from someone that after watching the first one,

[00:36:26] I was like, they can't top that.

[00:36:29] And then we would, like, holy shit, part two, my God.

[00:36:32] And then they said, hold my beer.

[00:36:34] Funny, funny about that,

[00:36:35] because he's talking about the Spider-Verse films

[00:36:37] if you haven't put it together yet.

[00:36:39] I actually, when I, when I watched the first one,

[00:36:41] I really didn't enjoy it.

[00:36:43] I didn't hate it, but I was kind of like,

[00:36:45] eh, it was, this is okay.

[00:36:48] The art style was a bit janky for me at first.

[00:36:50] Now I love it because now I understand what they were going

[00:36:53] for with it.

[00:36:54] And then it was funny.

[00:36:55] It was actually my friend who was like, man,

[00:36:57] I don't understand how you don't like into the Spider-Verse.

[00:37:01] And I'm like, I just, he's like, you know what?

[00:37:04] I think you need to watch it again.

[00:37:06] And I'm like, okay, fair enough,

[00:37:08] because that wouldn't be the first time I watched a movie,

[00:37:10] didn't like it.

[00:37:10] And then watch it again and then finally got it.

[00:37:13] And then it was like, oh, opinion 180.

[00:37:15] And then the second time I watched it,

[00:37:17] I realized what they were doing with the Miles character

[00:37:19] because it's really easy, especially if you haven't seen the movie

[00:37:22] and you won't be heard about it.

[00:37:23] It's really easy to see like, oh, you know,

[00:37:25] they're just replacing Peter Parker with the win-ority.

[00:37:28] But never mind the fact that Miles Morales has been

[00:37:30] in the comic books for quite some time before that movie came out.

[00:37:34] So he's not a new character,

[00:37:35] the Hollywood invented to replace a straight white man.

[00:37:39] It's not the case this time.

[00:37:43] But I, watching it again is relationship with Peter B. Parker

[00:37:47] and then I understand what they're doing

[00:37:50] and that the home movie is about Miles

[00:37:52] is not trying to be like the other Spider-Man.

[00:37:54] The Spider-Man, the Spider-Man, the Spider-Man.

[00:37:57] And then it hits you and it's like, oh, okay, get it.

[00:38:00] I'm there because that's what the whole movie,

[00:38:01] the whole first movie is about everybody trying to tell Miles

[00:38:05] how to be Spider-Man.

[00:38:06] And he's terrible at it until he just decides,

[00:38:11] yeah, I'm gonna be my own Spider-Man

[00:38:12] and then he grows into it.

[00:38:15] And so by the time the second movie rolls around

[00:38:17] I'm just like, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm stoked for this

[00:38:19] and then expectations way far and above exceeded.

[00:38:24] Just wow, so much so the movie ended

[00:38:26] and I was pissed.

[00:38:28] Yeah, same here.

[00:38:29] I want more.

[00:38:30] I want more.

[00:38:31] Yeah, you literally end, they literally ended it

[00:38:33] on rising action.

[00:38:34] And like I literally have chills like,

[00:38:36] or goosebumps if you will.

[00:38:39] Ha ha ha.

[00:38:39] Like just like talking about it because it was so good

[00:38:44] and do you have kids?

[00:38:46] I do not.

[00:38:47] Okay, like just experiencing this movie in particular

[00:38:50] with a child is like mind blowing.

[00:38:54] Because like another thing that was really cool

[00:38:57] was the art style would change every time

[00:39:00] they would introduce a new character.

[00:39:02] And for your kid or like a kid to like realize that,

[00:39:06] it's so fucking cool.

[00:39:08] And I also wanted to point out like another thing.

[00:39:11] Like a lot of people hated on the new Batman

[00:39:14] with our pets.

[00:39:14] And I'm an art hat like Stan and just because I love

[00:39:20] most things that he does.

[00:39:24] And in particular, like the fact that like he was like

[00:39:27] struggling as Batman in the beginning,

[00:39:30] I liked that kind of like how Miles was

[00:39:34] because we never really have seen that in a Batman film.

[00:39:38] This is true, this is true.

[00:39:40] So so I'm gonna, I'm gonna

[00:39:43] Professor's was everybody should get,

[00:39:45] this is mostly on the original podcast.

[00:39:48] We do the average intelligence.

[00:39:49] It was the first one.

[00:39:51] It sort of became a running joke because spoiler alert.

[00:39:54] I am not a Robert Pattinson fan.

[00:39:56] What?

[00:39:57] I play out my hatred for him just for laughs

[00:40:00] it entertains me and plus the hate comments

[00:40:03] I get are phenomenal.

[00:40:05] I love him.

[00:40:06] But by this point it's obviously a joke.

[00:40:08] He's just not an actor that I particularly like.

[00:40:12] I had a major point which apparently he was joking.

[00:40:15] I don't believe he was joking, but there was a big

[00:40:18] hubbub during the pandemic where he was like,

[00:40:20] it was reported that he was refusing to work out

[00:40:23] to stay in shape for Batman and I was just kind of like

[00:40:27] I don't, that seems really kind of silly to me

[00:40:31] because you're even given, assuming this is true.

[00:40:34] I've never met the guy.

[00:40:35] And I love how people will tell me sometimes so be like,

[00:40:37] yeah, you would never say that to his face.

[00:40:38] I'm like actually I would.

[00:40:41] But if I met him, I'm sure that at the very least

[00:40:45] it would be a corgial interaction.

[00:40:46] He probably told me to fuck off one of my saying

[00:40:48] but he's Robert Pattinson on me.

[00:40:51] Like I have no, he's Robert Pattinson

[00:40:54] doesn't give two shits about my opinion of him.

[00:40:58] But the joke that I kept making

[00:41:00] because we did a review of the Batman

[00:41:01] and I just took it as an opportunity to get more

[00:41:04] Robert Pattinson hate comments.

[00:41:06] Well hate comments for me.

[00:41:09] But the joke I was making in the theater with my friend,

[00:41:11] Eric was I was like, you could just replace lines

[00:41:15] from Twilight and this movie and it would all make sense.

[00:41:20] I can see that.

[00:41:21] You literally could because someone should do that.

[00:41:25] I agree.

[00:41:25] I think somebody should because the biggest joke I made

[00:41:27] was like both movies essentially have a moment

[00:41:30] where somebody asks who or what are you

[00:41:33] and I'm like vampire or Batman, they both work.

[00:41:36] Yeah.

[00:41:36] They both work.

[00:41:38] I just, I don't know man.

[00:41:40] Like with all of,

[00:41:46] with everything that came between the no one verse,

[00:41:48] it was a welcome addition to the Batman world.

[00:41:52] I'm not sure how big of a Batman fan you are.

[00:41:55] Like I like Gotham as well.

[00:41:58] See I think we're opposites here.

[00:42:00] So question, how do you feel about bathe like?

[00:42:03] I mean he's okay.

[00:42:05] I'm not like a fan.

[00:42:06] See, this is fun because we're I think we're total opposites

[00:42:10] on the Batman spectrum.

[00:42:12] Because I been afflux my favorite on screen.

[00:42:15] My favorite live action Batman.

[00:42:17] Because to me he was the only one that I feel

[00:42:21] played a really good Batman and a really good Bruce Wayne.

[00:42:25] Because don't know where I'm.

[00:42:25] The best Batman is probably the no one verse,

[00:42:29] but I just didn't like his Bruce Wayne.

[00:42:32] Yeah, I didn't hear it.

[00:42:33] I didn't hear it.

[00:42:34] I didn't hear it.

[00:42:35] What's your favorite Batman?

[00:42:37] Oh Kevin Conroy, Batman.

[00:42:39] No, no, I mean Batman,

[00:42:40] I mean Batman like movie, what's your favorite?

[00:42:47] Ooh, that's a good question.

[00:42:49] As in terms of like a pure movie,

[00:42:52] I'd probably have to say the dark night

[00:42:54] but to me if that had been bathe flick,

[00:42:58] I think it would have been just a bit.

[00:43:00] But and that's not to take away anything from that movie

[00:43:03] because I mean it's close to flawless.

[00:43:06] There's not a lot you could have really changed

[00:43:09] to have made it better.

[00:43:10] But I really dug the Batman aspect in Justice League

[00:43:15] and Batman v Superman,

[00:43:18] kind of that older, more briseled dark night returns,

[00:43:21] ask Batman.

[00:43:23] I dig it now.

[00:43:25] I understand when some people say it was a little too dark

[00:43:27] because again my favorite Batman incarnation

[00:43:30] is Batman the animated series,

[00:43:32] the Batman that doesn't kill the Batman,

[00:43:33] the doesn't use guns, the Kevin Conroy,

[00:43:36] you know like not necessarily tormented

[00:43:39] but still like he's okay going above and beyond

[00:43:44] but they're still aligned that he won't cross

[00:43:45] moreally speaking.

[00:43:47] Yeah, that's my favorite Batman

[00:43:49] whereas bathe flick is cool like shooting people.

[00:43:52] Fuck it, I'm down whatever.

[00:43:54] And people, yeah, no problem, no problem here.

[00:43:58] Fair enough, I don't know.

[00:44:00] I have a special place in my heart with for all of them

[00:44:03] but I always, for some reason Batman returns

[00:44:06] I think it's always gonna stand out to me

[00:44:09] as like because it's so over the top

[00:44:12] and like you got the burden

[00:44:14] you have like there's so many villains

[00:44:18] like but they're utilized well.

[00:44:23] Because that could be done so poorly

[00:44:25] and that was kind of starting the trend

[00:44:27] that was the case for a while

[00:44:29] why I think well basically Batman returns

[00:44:31] through Batman and Robin at least where

[00:44:33] there were basically two villains per film.

[00:44:36] Yeah, yeah, because you had Catwoman and Penguin

[00:44:38] and then a Batman for every had two face

[00:44:40] and the Redler Batman and Robin you had Bane

[00:44:42] and probably I'm sorry, Bane was a side character

[00:44:44] you had Boys and Ivy and Mr. Freeze.

[00:44:47] Yep, well in so in Batman returns

[00:44:49] you also have Christopher Walken

[00:44:53] who's also a villain

[00:44:54] and then they're setting up for what's his name

[00:44:58] to play two face because Lando Carrison.

[00:45:03] Yeah, you had Harvey Dent was in that movie, yeah.

[00:45:07] Yeah, so I mean there's like all these little Easter eggs

[00:45:09] and I mean, I'm purely Herman is a penguin's dad

[00:45:13] he drops him into the river in the beginning

[00:45:16] I just, I don't know, some, I think it might be

[00:45:19] a little nostalgic too

[00:45:20] because it's so as a kid seeing clowns with guns

[00:45:24] like it's like holy shit

[00:45:25] so maybe that plays into it a little bit too funny.

[00:45:29] And I can understand well,

[00:45:30] while Michael Keaton isn't my favorite Batman

[00:45:32] I can understand why he is for some people

[00:45:36] I can, that's something I can wrap my head around

[00:45:38] and understand and I, same thing for really every version

[00:45:44] yeah, really because I understand

[00:45:46] I understand because my friend Eric

[00:45:48] he and I disagree completely on the Batman

[00:45:50] he loved it.

[00:45:51] I was kind of like eh, wasn't really my cup of tea

[00:45:55] but that's the beautiful thing about

[00:45:57] the diversity of film out there

[00:45:59] because there's something for everybody

[00:46:00] if you don't like this, that doesn't mean it,

[00:46:02] well, it doesn't inherently mean it sucks.

[00:46:04] It might suck, but somebody likes it

[00:46:07] Yeah, somebody still wears gonna love it

[00:46:09] Speaking of a bat, like I had my buddy Martin

[00:46:12] he actually went to like a signing

[00:46:15] with Ben and he got one of his Batman comic signed

[00:46:18] and he was like, cause he's like the biggest Batman guy

[00:46:21] that I know for one of his birthdays

[00:46:24] he rented out a theater and showed

[00:46:27] Batman OG Batman anyway, he's in line

[00:46:31] he's about to get this comic signed

[00:46:33] he's like so hyped

[00:46:34] cause I think at this point he had almost got

[00:46:36] he had gotten every Batman signature on a comic

[00:46:41] and he's like next in line

[00:46:42] and the guy in the program goes,

[00:46:44] how's Jennifer doing?

[00:46:45] And it was like right when they had announced

[00:46:47] that they were separating

[00:46:50] and he's like, oh, she's good

[00:46:53] and Martin is like dude, what do you think it, bro?

[00:46:57] Like number one, it's a weird question to ask

[00:47:00] considering the situation and then number two

[00:47:04] like be a little more prepared.

[00:47:06] Like yeah, that just gives me vibes of chasing Amy

[00:47:09] when the guy says he's a tracer, it's like same energy

[00:47:12] yep, exactly.

[00:47:13] That's Jason Lee but yeah, it's literally

[00:47:17] one of the scenes where what I thought of

[00:47:20] whenever he told me that story

[00:47:21] because that's my favorite Kevin Smith film

[00:47:24] oddly enough.

[00:47:25] Same here, say it's okay, we agree,

[00:47:27] we're back, we're back on the same team.

[00:47:29] Yeah, I think chasing Amy or dogma for me

[00:47:31] but chasing Amy I think is just the better

[00:47:33] movie in terms of story and all that dogma,

[00:47:37] dogma while very entertaining

[00:47:38] just gets a little not in a bad way

[00:47:41] but it's just a grander thing

[00:47:44] and has some religious connotations

[00:47:47] but you do get to see some a hike

[00:47:49] and I'm always a fan of that

[00:47:51] but yeah, so yeah, I'd say chasing Amy

[00:47:54] what would you say though?

[00:47:56] Because now we're gonna get in trouble

[00:47:58] because somebody somewhere's gonna have something

[00:48:00] bad to say about this and let me know if you need

[00:48:02] to leave because I know you got a concert to get to.

[00:48:04] No, I'll get a little time.

[00:48:06] Cool, what would you say

[00:48:08] gunned your head is your favorite movie of all time?

[00:48:13] A turn on sunshine for the spotless morning.

[00:48:16] Excellent.

[00:48:17] Or all of the spotless mind, sorry.

[00:48:19] Yeah, yeah, I know it's not,

[00:48:23] it's not my number one but it's up there.

[00:48:25] It's top five at the very least.

[00:48:28] You might be able to appreciate this.

[00:48:30] I watched that movie when I was in college

[00:48:32] I was in a film class and I took said film class

[00:48:35] because the classes you watch a movie

[00:48:38] and then discuss some like sweet, easiest A ever.

[00:48:41] What I didn't count on was the film list being

[00:48:43] chock full of movies that I just hated.

[00:48:47] This was the sixth movie on my list and I literally

[00:48:51] because I'd never heard of it before.

[00:48:54] And I saw Jim Carrey in a serious movie and I went,

[00:48:58] oh, it's because at the time

[00:49:00] I didn't really appreciate Jim Carrey's acting ability.

[00:49:04] I just liked his comedy.

[00:49:06] And I said but Kate wins with Senate and can't be that bad.

[00:49:09] I start watching it but I'm only half ass watching it

[00:49:12] because it is kind of a slow start.

[00:49:14] It definitely does have a slow start.

[00:49:17] Yeah, it's a movie that if you're not paying attention,

[00:49:19] you won't get into it.

[00:49:21] You have to actively watch this movie.

[00:49:23] So about halfway, it's about at the halfway point

[00:49:26] when Joel's, spoiler, when Joel's memories are starting

[00:49:29] to fade when they're doing the procedure

[00:49:30] I click what's going on and I went, oh shit.

[00:49:36] This is really it so I actually started it over

[00:49:39] because it was like okay, I need to understand

[00:49:42] what's going on here.

[00:49:43] And it's one of those movies

[00:49:45] where every time I watch, I notice something more

[00:49:48] it's such a great movie.

[00:49:50] That's a very good, okay, never mind.

[00:49:52] Nobody's going to give you grief for that

[00:49:53] because that's a solid choice.

[00:49:55] Well, I, one of my good friends,

[00:49:58] Callie now he always gives me shit when I say that I love

[00:50:01] that movie because he's like that's a pussy movie

[00:50:05] which it's fair because I get where he's coming from

[00:50:09] because he wants me to say like Jason or a Friday

[00:50:11] that 13th or something which I'm a, I'm a Freddie guy

[00:50:16] but a turtle sunshine, it's the script is perfect.

[00:50:21] Michelle Goumjre is like one of the best directors

[00:50:24] of all time.

[00:50:26] Some of the tricks that he does

[00:50:27] with the camera itself or with the lens

[00:50:31] is it's incredible.

[00:50:34] It's like film school on a movie

[00:50:38] and acting is impeccable.

[00:50:40] I actually saw in theaters and I try to see it in theaters

[00:50:43] every time that's showing but yeah, it's,

[00:50:48] it's, there's nothing like it.

[00:50:50] You just become immersed because I've never seen it

[00:50:54] in a theater so I need to watch out for that

[00:50:56] cause you have that would be an experience.

[00:51:00] Yeah, that sounds amazing.

[00:51:01] I need to watch out for that.

[00:51:03] But I mean for those people that maybe haven't seen it

[00:51:06] or like our curious about it,

[00:51:07] I will say that like, I think the reason

[00:51:11] that I love it so much is because it,

[00:51:14] it pushes the point of like every relationship

[00:51:18] that you have is meaningful or like if you go through

[00:51:22] like a breakup or a divorce or just a shitty situation

[00:51:27] you can still learn from it and it's interesting

[00:51:31] to kind of see like how they show that on screen

[00:51:35] because I've also read the script and it's like,

[00:51:38] there's moments when you're like how,

[00:51:39] how did they translate this?

[00:51:41] And then you see it when you're watching the film

[00:51:44] and it's, it's impressive.

[00:51:47] And yeah, Jim Carrey, it's, it's wild.

[00:51:50] I love the Truman Show too but like this is,

[00:51:52] that's another one.

[00:51:53] This is just next level.

[00:51:55] It really is and then what always,

[00:51:57] what always gets more, there's two or three scenes

[00:52:01] that always really get me.

[00:52:03] The two biggest ones are the very end

[00:52:05] when they realize what's happening,

[00:52:08] and then Jim Carrey is just little.

[00:52:13] But then the other one is when it's his last memory

[00:52:17] he's trying to hold onto it

[00:52:18] and it's the house crumbling and everything just,

[00:52:21] and I love how they do it because it's practical.

[00:52:25] Yep, but light literally just fades.

[00:52:28] And it's such a beautiful scene.

[00:52:31] That scene and then the scene where there's like

[00:52:34] the barrier between him and her

[00:52:36] and she's like walking away, but it's like filmed

[00:52:38] through like a glass that has like that texture on it.

[00:52:44] But from like the viewer's perspective,

[00:52:46] it looks like it's like fading away,

[00:52:49] but it's literally just one of those,

[00:52:51] I don't know, it's beautiful, it's really fun.

[00:52:53] I also really love garden state

[00:52:56] and like it's, it's again,

[00:52:59] it's one of those relationships movies,

[00:53:00] but it kind of slowly fell out of my top five,

[00:53:05] like it's, I still love it.

[00:53:07] Yeah, the garden state is very much a product

[00:53:10] of its time, you know?

[00:53:12] And some of it doesn't, and I don't mean to say it's bad,

[00:53:15] but some of it just didn't age

[00:53:17] like Eternal Sunshine did

[00:53:18] because there were a lot of things in Garden State

[00:53:21] that when it was made, it was pioneering

[00:53:23] some of these storytelling ideas,

[00:53:25] but they would become very cliche.

[00:53:27] So if you didn't see Garden State

[00:53:30] when or shortly after it came out,

[00:53:32] you're looking at it now and just like,

[00:53:34] oh my god, this is a commercial factory film.

[00:53:38] When in fact it was very much an indie darling

[00:53:41] when it came out because it was a different,

[00:53:45] yeah, that's fun.

[00:53:46] Another movie I really need to see in the,

[00:53:48] my favorite movie of all time is Casa Blanca

[00:53:50] and I almost, I had the ticket

[00:53:53] and then I ended up not being able to go

[00:53:55] watching the theater.

[00:53:56] So still haven't seen that yet,

[00:53:58] but it's on my radar,

[00:53:59] but I'll have to add Eternal Sunshine to the list.

[00:54:02] Is that sounds incredible?

[00:54:03] I can't believe I didn't think of that.

[00:54:06] Yeah, it's fun.

[00:54:07] Like another really good one in theaters,

[00:54:09] I saw a Kira that was fantastic.

[00:54:13] What I saw, I saw a Kira back to back with something.

[00:54:19] What's the,

[00:54:19] it's the one, it's like the criterion VHS tape,

[00:54:23] are another animation or did they?

[00:54:26] No, it's this, it was just another,

[00:54:30] it was another like just movie

[00:54:33] that they happen to be showing that day

[00:54:35] and I was like,

[00:54:36] this is mind blowing to watch these two films back to back.

[00:54:41] Let's see, old boys also really good

[00:54:43] on theaters, video drone, video drone,

[00:54:50] video drone, video drone,

[00:54:54] it's like, that's a great day.

[00:54:57] Oh, yeah, and that's funny because I remember

[00:54:59] in the height of the pandemic,

[00:55:01] everybody was like,

[00:55:01] oh my god, the movie theaters are gonna die

[00:55:03] and what we're talking about right now,

[00:55:06] just green forces,

[00:55:06] what I said at the time,

[00:55:07] it's like listen,

[00:55:09] movie theaters are never gonna die

[00:55:10] because they're just some movies

[00:55:13] that need to be seen on a big silver screen

[00:55:16] and it's just,

[00:55:20] it's something that can't be replicated.

[00:55:24] So thankfully, they're recovering

[00:55:28] but definitely.

[00:55:30] Yeah, and I mean,

[00:55:32] I think popcorn buckets are a big,

[00:55:35] but proponent for that,

[00:55:37] like I guess because I've noticed that every,

[00:55:39] can't go to the movies without buying

[00:55:41] a popcorn bucket these days.

[00:55:43] Well, that's how they make their money

[00:55:44] on the concessions largely.

[00:55:46] So that's why I annoy the shit out of people

[00:55:49] that I go to the movies with,

[00:55:50] but I will literally,

[00:55:52] everybody that goes with me on like,

[00:55:53] you're not sneaking in food or canned.

[00:55:55] If you want something,

[00:55:56] I'll buy it from the concessions for you

[00:55:57] because I know that's how the theaters make their money

[00:56:00] and I want them to stay in business.

[00:56:01] I want them to turn a profit

[00:56:02] because I wanna keep seeing movies.

[00:56:06] I know you gotta head out here shortly

[00:56:08] so I will give the floor to you

[00:56:10] is there anything you would like

[00:56:12] the viewers to know about that's coming up for you

[00:56:14] and work and they find you on the internet.

[00:56:18] So like I mentioned,

[00:56:20] I'm covering fantastic vest right now

[00:56:21] so I'm gonna have a ton of reviews up on

[00:56:24] cinnof.com that's siene.com.

[00:56:29] Let's see.

[00:56:30] You can also find me on my YouTube,

[00:56:33] it's Jesse Hopson, Jesse,

[00:56:34] like a lady, J-E-S-S-I-E Hopson

[00:56:37] or you can look up cinnof.com.

[00:56:40] But as I've had a ton of interviews recently,

[00:56:42] I interviewed Charlie Saxon

[00:56:44] who's from the show hung.

[00:56:48] And I interviewed some guys from,

[00:56:51] you know, oddly enough, I really like the show,

[00:56:53] Riverdale and I grew up watching O-C.

[00:56:55] So I always really enjoy talking to actors

[00:56:58] that run Riverdale.

[00:57:01] Yeah, you know,

[00:57:03] I just try to keep it different

[00:57:05] and I have actors every all the time

[00:57:08] and Mario van Peoples, that was a fun one.

[00:57:14] See,

[00:57:16] I should also check out your interview

[00:57:18] with the Goosebumps crew

[00:57:19] which you can find on cinnof.com.

[00:57:21] That's a really good entertaining one.

[00:57:24] Yeah, you know, yeah,

[00:57:25] I really enjoyed that one just because

[00:57:26] like I was saying like that really,

[00:57:29] it really kind of reignited that love for me.

[00:57:32] And you know, I would love to go on that podcast

[00:57:35] with those guys or have them on my YouTube again.

[00:57:39] But yeah, I guess check me out

[00:57:41] just eopsenscentof.com, interviews,

[00:57:44] all that shit, Instagram,

[00:57:46] Real Joe Danger, Twitter, Joe Under Score Danger.

[00:57:51] Yeah, just happy to be here, happy to talk movies

[00:57:53] and I'm happy to do this in any time.

[00:57:55] Man, thanks for having me.

[00:57:56] So yeah, well I'm, I'm, I'm my hit you up on that.

[00:57:58] We got a lot of podcasts and a lot of them talk

[00:58:00] about movies so you're always welcome to come on

[00:58:02] if you have something you wanna plug as well.

[00:58:05] Everybody check out cinnof.com

[00:58:07] and cinnof on YouTube

[00:58:08] and we will see you guys next time.