Donald Trump vs Joe Biden vs Robert F Kennedy Jr Live Debate Analysis & Commentary: Solo Special 18

[00:00:00] Live Debate Analysis amp, Commentary Audio check has worked. Welcome everyone to the Average Intelligence Podcast. We're doing something a little bit different tonight because CNN has seen fit to rob the American people of their constitutional options, as it were.

[00:01:00] We are going to, or I should say I, I am going to do my best to bring you complete coverage and commentary of both debates that are happening tonight.

[00:01:10] Yes, I am referring to the one in which Donald Trump and Joe Biden will be elderly slapping each other, but also Robert F Kennedy Jr.

[00:01:17] who at one point, I guess did qualify for the CNN debate. No longer does, but he will be hosting a live debate and which the way I understand it is he's going to answer the same questions hosted by John Stossel, I believe if what I read was correct.

[00:01:38] Thank you to the RFK campaign, by the way, for sending me that text message this evening. Otherwise, I would not have known that it was going to happen.

[00:01:47] And apparently the debate is on, or at least it will be shortly. And when it does, actually I need to configure that really quickly while I can.

[00:02:00] So I think I should go here and we will judge this very quickly to make sure I cover up that logo real pretty. Oh wow, it is really not letting me do this.

[00:02:25] So that when people leave after those 90 minutes they say, I get it, I get what the argument is, and I'm moved by that argument. Wow. Wow. Okay. Okay, so that side is going to not let me do what I want to do here.

[00:02:54] Hmm. Well while we are sorting that out I'm going to try to find another source. What do you mean rumble.com isn't working. Whoa, okay hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. What the fuck is going on. Rumble. Rumble.com is down. Rumble.com is down.

[00:03:49] What? I don't even know what's going on. He's got to be shitting me. I cannot believe this. What the hell is going on? Okay, how do I watch it? So fun fact too, apparently there's going to be a two minute delay.

[00:04:30] So the debate actually does not start at 9pm, it will start at 9.02pm. Hang on, I'm going to see if this works real quick. Okay, perfect. On in America right now, if one of them can at least give a spark of that.

[00:04:49] Maybe you can actually I think the other problem for both men, neither of them are great visionaries about, you know, painting a picture of what is the country supposed to be and it's hard for them because they both are not the most articulate man in the world.

[00:05:05] I don't know how that's going to play out tonight. I want to thank everybody here on the panel. The preliminaries are over. The main event is here. We'll be back with complete coverage. Okay, so we appear to be up and running.

[00:05:20] I'm very glad I was able to make that happen. So I am actually going to open a new window. The real debate.com. Now what I was hoping for, I was hoping that RFK Junior would be live streaming the debate himself.

[00:05:50] However, I'm not holding my breath on that. Because if he is that would just make my life easier. And okay so everyone, I'm, I can't believe I'm saying this.

[00:06:06] I don't know if I should have people share it or not because what I, I'm afraid that they will try to take the stream down because the truth is there should be nothing against the CNN has said that it's not going to allow live streaming.

[00:06:23] I don't really know how they can legally do that considering this is this is politics right? This is not. We appear to be on so. Oh, not word. We don't want word. Oh okay. Let me switch the view. So we are joined currently by Mr Stossel on X.

[00:07:08] Welcome to the real debate. I'm John Stossel moderator tonight. CNN's hosting its first presidential debate for 2024. But they did not include the independent presidential candidate. No he did not. They did not.

[00:07:23] So this evening, live from Los Angeles we're streaming the CNN debate and here I will give Kennedy the same questions that Trump and Biden get. You'll see the CNN debate plus Kennedy's answers here. Oh perfect.

[00:07:40] It's all being posted on Twitter X was supposed to call it and the real debate.com. But you could say this is the real debate with all the presidential candidates who poll in double digits. Oh apparently I cannot pause. Why can't I not pause this?

[00:07:57] This broadcast will be a little bit longer. Now let's go to CNN as they introduce their broadcast. Oh perfect. We're live from Georgia, a key battleground state. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. White House in just moments.

[00:08:14] The current U.S. president will debate the former U.S. president as their party's presumptive nominees of not streaming CNN. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world to our studios in Atlanta. This is the CNN presidential debate.

[00:08:34] This debate is being produced by CNN and it's just checking my audio. CNN International, CNN.com, CNN Max. It's a bummer that I can't pause it though. This is a pivotal moment between President Joe Biden and former president Donald Trump in their rematch for the nation's highest office.

[00:08:53] Is it though? The people make his case to the American people with just over four months until election day. Good evening. I'm Dana Bash, anchor of CNN's Inside Politics and co-anchor of State of the Union.

[00:09:05] I'm Jake Tapper, anchor of CNN's The Lead and co-anchor of State of the Union. Dana and I will co-moderate this evening. Our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight. I will return in one moment.

[00:09:17] Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home. Former President Trump will be on the left side of the screen. President Biden will be appearing on the right, a coin toss determined their positions.

[00:09:29] Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttals. An additional minute for follow-up clarification or response is at the moderator's discretion.

[00:09:42] When it's time for a candidate to speak, his microphone will be turned on and his opponent's microphone will be turned off. Should a candidate interrupt when his microphone is muted, he will be difficult to understand for viewers at home.

[00:09:57] At the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements. There is no studio audience tonight. Pre-written notes, props or contact with campaign staff are not permitted during the debate.

[00:10:10] By accepting our invitation to debate, both candidates and their campaigns agreed to accept these rules. Now please welcome the 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden. Oh by the way, my guess for... My prediction is that he will be relatively strong for the first 30 to 45 minutes.

[00:10:32] And then much like the State of the Union, you'll see him start to slowly weigh your way out. Trump's looking a little frumpy. And please welcome Robert Kennedy Jr. I actually love this. Thank you. The price of essentials has increased.

[00:11:06] For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then now costs more than $120. This is awesome. And typical home prices have jumped more than 30%. What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump?

[00:11:22] We got to take a look at what I was left when I became president and what Mr. Trump left me. We had an economy that was in free fall. The pandemic was so badly handled. Many people were dying. All he said was, it's not that serious.

[00:11:34] Just inject a little bleach in your arm. That's a lie. The economy collapsed. There were no jobs. Unemployment rate rose to 15%. It was terrible. Because the government shut down cities. That's exactly what we began to do. We created 15,000 new jobs.

[00:11:51] We brought out another position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing jobs. But there's more to be done. There's more to be done. Working class people are still in trouble. I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Yeah, no thanks to you.

[00:12:03] Where the kitchen table, if things weren't able to be met during the month, it was a problem. The price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing, the price of home rents. Take a breath, bro.

[00:12:12] That's why I'm working so hard to make sure I deal with those problems. And we're going to make sure that we reduce the price of housing. We're going to make sure we build two million new units.

[00:12:22] We're going to make sure we cap rents so corporate greed can't take over. The combination, what I was left with in corporate greed is the reason why we're in this problem right now.

[00:12:30] In addition to that, we're in a situation where if you take a look at all that was done in his administration, he didn't do much at all by the time he left, there were things that were in chaos. Are you serious? And so we put things back together.

[00:12:44] We created, I said- How would you know? You were in your fucking basement. We had a situation where we now, we brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for- For no- To $15 for- For people on Medicare. For $400.

[00:12:58] No senior has to pay more than $200 for any drug, all the drugs they- They all do that. Why do they say that? It's only for Medicare. In a situation where we're going to make that available to everybody, to all Americans.

[00:13:10] So we're working to bring down the price around the kitchen table and that's what we're going to get done. Take a breath. Thank you. President Trump? We're the greatest economy in the history of our country. We have never done so well. I don't know about the history.

[00:13:23] It was good. Everybody was amazed by it. Other countries were copying us. We got hit with COVID. And when we did, we spent the money necessary so we wouldn't end up in a Great Depression, the likes of which we had in 1929.

[00:13:36] By the time we finished, we did a great job. We got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things. Everything was rocking good.

[00:13:45] But the thing we never got the credit for and we should have is getting us out of that COVID mess. He created mandates. That was a disaster for our country.

[00:13:54] But other than that, we had we had given them back a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-COVID and nobody thought that was even possible. The only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce back jobs, a bounce back from the COVID.

[00:14:10] And there it is not done a good job. He's done a poor job and inflation is killing our country. It is absolutely killing us. Thank you, President Biden. You had a hand in that. He's the greatest economy in the world.

[00:14:20] He's the only one who thinks that, I think. I don't know if anybody else thinks he had the greatest economy in the world. We had the greatest economy in the world at the time.

[00:14:26] The fact of the matter is that we pride ourselves on a situation where his economy, he rewarded the wealthy. He had the largest tax cut in American history, $2 trillion. He raised a deficit larger than any president had ever done. My taxes were lowered.

[00:14:41] He's the only president other than Herbert Hoover who's lost more jobs than he had when he began. The idea that he did something that was significant in the military. When he was president, there was killing people in Afghanistan. He didn't do anything about that.

[00:14:57] When he was president, we still find ourselves in a position where you had a notion that we were this safe country. The truth is I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this decade, any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did.

[00:15:14] President Trump, I want to follow up if I can. Mr. Kennedy, the question was people feel worse off because of inflation. I thought they were cutting the stream. I want to thank everybody for being here and for this opportunity and thank you, John.

[00:15:30] I also want to thank Elon Musk for live streaming this on X. CNN made some statements suggesting that that might be, that he may get sued for that. And I'm very, very grateful for the courage that he's shown to protect freedom of speech in this country.

[00:15:48] I want to just orient us a little bit about why we're here tonight. And I don't want to make it sound like I'm complaining because this isn't a personal issue. This is something that should be very troubling for our country. What happened with this debate?

[00:16:06] My uncle gave the first televised debate in 1960. Ever since then, the debate has been run by nonpartisan organizations, the League of Women Voters, and the Debating Commission thereafter. And this is the first time that a private corporation owns the debate. This is true.

[00:16:27] And it's troubling because CNN is making tens of millions of dollars. There will be more though. And so they have an incentive to go ahead and collude with the two presidential candidates whose main purpose was to keep me off the stage. And again, this isn't a personal issue.

[00:16:46] This is something that's important for our democracy because Americans feel like the system is rigged. And this is this collusion with a corporation or profit corporation that both those campaigns are going to be pumping in tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising.

[00:17:07] Oh, it's all a big payoff. This is exactly the kind of merger of state and corporate power. It's been happening for a long time. I'm running in order to oppose. And Americans believe that the system is rigged against them. And I believe it is.

[00:17:23] And this is an example of how badly rigged it is. Mr. Kennedy, we're following the rules here. You're two minutes or whatever you want with the minute that we hear you. I want to follow up. We're going back to the debate. I'm going to follow up.

[00:17:38] Well, I'm going to ask you a question. Not according to the whoop. You're a person in my ear here. Tariff on all goods. Well, that you asked, how will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher? Not going to drive them higher.

[00:17:50] It's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years like China and many other. China. It's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously and give us a lot of power for other things.

[00:18:03] But he made a statement. The only thing he was right about is I gave you the largest tax cut in history. I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history. That's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and then they bounced back.

[00:18:15] And he's taking credit for bounce back jobs. You can't do that. He also said he inherited nine percent inflation. No, he had no almost no inflation and it stayed that way.

[00:18:24] It was under it was under two percent prior to leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing and they don't know what they were doing. They're still doing it. The worst administration in history. It's up there.

[00:18:37] And as far as Afghanistan is concerned, I was getting out of Afghanistan, but we're getting out with dignity, with strength, with power. He got out. It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country's life.

[00:18:50] President Trump, over the last year, like I told you this book right here, he says, read it. The question after deals with the poor lot of Afghanistan's Trump's 10 percent stars and stripes.

[00:19:03] And this is a and this another example of why this debate is a problem, because these two men are the people who ran up the deficit that is causing the inflated Biden more than Trump, though. President Trump came into office promising to balance the budget.

[00:19:20] Instead, he spent more money in office and every president. Very viable, by the way, combined George Washington to George W. Bush, two hundred eighty three years of history. President Biden is will beat him. He's already run up six point three trillion dollars in debt.

[00:19:39] And by the end, by time he leaves office, he'll have run up more than President Trump. That's why we have inflation. Inflation is cause because they're planning money to pay for these expenses that we don't have. And that money is then a tax on the poor.

[00:19:56] That's why we have a 22 percent hike in home insurance. That's why we have four dollar milk, four dollar bread, six dollar gasoline is because of the forever wars and the out of control spending. But they're in places. We have a thirty four trillion dollar debt now.

[00:20:15] The interest alone on that debt is costing us more than our military budget. Five years, fifty cents out of every dollar that we collect in taxes will go to servicing the debt within 10 years. This is existential.

[00:20:31] This is one of the problems that neither of these two will talk about. This is the problem is the reason that they need me on stage because I would confront them with what they did.

[00:20:41] They were the ones who ran up half of this deficit is attributable to those two men. And that's what's causing inflation. We'll never deal with inflation if we don't deal with the money. But how would you and how would you deal with it?

[00:20:55] I know it's not your mess, but I want to know how you would deal with it. Yes, you have to stop the money printing. But like he said, but like he said, eventually all the tax revenue was going to go towards the debt.

[00:21:05] So how do you solve that? And according to a new news, I have to borrow more money unless you solve the issue. Your administration approved eight point sorry. I wish I could pause it while so far, President Biden, you've approved four point three trillion dollars in new debt.

[00:21:17] So former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. You want to extend them and go even further, you say with the U.S.

[00:21:26] facing trillion dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now? Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to covid.

[00:21:38] And even after covid, it was so strong that we're able to get through covid and much better than just about any other country. And the rich can pay the best accountants to not pay it anyway.

[00:21:48] The taxes, as an example, the paper tiger cut down to 21 percent from 39 percent. Plus beyond that, we took in more revenue with much less tax and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country. The country was going like never before. And we were awesome.

[00:22:06] I was some comments people watching the stream, by the way, make it interesting. The oil and gas right under our feet. We were going to have something that Biden just allowed them to drill in places, by the way. We did a lot to fix it.

[00:22:17] I gave him an unbelievable situation after on day one therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with. We gave him something great. Remember, more people died. Operation Warp Speed started under Trump, even though we had largely fixed it.

[00:22:32] More people died under his administration than our administration. And we were right in the middle of it, something which a lot of people don't like to talk about. But he had far more people dying in his administration. He did the mandate, which is a disaster. I don't know.

[00:22:46] I'd have to verify that he did a mandate on the back. That would make sense, though, because people are pandemic technically lasted longer under Biden. So he did a very poor job, just a very poor job.

[00:22:56] And I will tell you not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country. They don't respect your leadership. You're not wrong, Haley. The United States anymore. We're like a third world. I would. I hope you're not talking about me.

[00:23:09] I don't consider myself an influencer, a savior. I appreciate. I'm just I'm glad that Elon Musk and Robert F. Kennedy are doing this done to our country.

[00:23:20] And I'd love to ask him and will why he allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country. Trump is doing what he should be doing. The immigration later in this block.

[00:23:33] President Biden, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt. He had the largest national debt of any president for your period. Number one, except for you. Number two, he got two trillion dollar tax benefit at the very wealthy.

[00:23:47] No, that's not true. Taxes, for example, benefited me have a thousand trillionaires in America. I mean, billionaires in America.

[00:23:55] And what's happening there in a situation where they in fact pay eight point two percent taxes if they just paid twenty four percent, twenty five percent, either one of those numbers. They raised five hundred million dollars.

[00:24:07] They used the deductions that are legal under the tax code, which you need to make sure anything about we need to do child care, elder care, continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID.

[00:24:30] Excuse me with dealing with. Never mind. I lost my own bet. Oh, finally beat Medicare. Wow. How about President Biden, President Trump? Oh, there it is. Beat Medicare. He beat it to death and he's destroying Medicare because all of these people are coming in.

[00:24:51] What did he maybe last time? Oh, there you go. Social Security. They're going to destroy Social Security. This man is going to single handedly destroy Social Security. Oh, wow. What did he last ten minutes? He will wipe out Social Security. He will wipe out Medicare.

[00:25:08] So he was right in the way he finished his sentence. He's ruling? And it's a shame. What's happened to our country in the last four years is not to be believed. Foreign countries, I'm friends with a lot of people.

[00:25:19] They cannot believe what happened to the United States of America. We're no longer respected. They don't like us. We give them everything they want and they think we're stupid. They think we're very stupid people. What we're doing for other countries and they do nothing for us.

[00:25:35] What this man has done is absolutely criminal. You know, I've spoken to a lot of people who say things like that Trump lowered our stand in the United States standing in the world. And if you look anywhere, like anywhere objectively, it's literally the opposite.

[00:25:55] He did have a strong economy, but anybody can have a strong economy by borrowing eight trillion dollars because you're forcing our children to pay for our present day prosperity with this enormous debt. You're right on elite. Which ultimately is paid by the poor, by people with fixed incomes.

[00:26:13] I want to address the area that they veered into, which is COVID management. There's another illustration about why this is so problematical because these two presidents shut down every business in our country. Three point three million businesses Trump didn't really just compensation. That really wasn't Trump.

[00:26:33] Forty one percent of the black left that up to the states. They closed. Never reopen. There was no scientific reason to do this. It was no public hearings. They were they made a bad mistake. And that was the worst. And technically that wasn't them history.

[00:26:50] They shifted four point three trillion dollars upward. Is my commentary bothering everyone that he was talking about? I have to do a little bit. A day and five hundred days. It is annoying. I'll try to be sparing with it. The problem says that CNN was their biggest cheerleader.

[00:27:07] Oh, and and the same company BlackRock. The word CNN had the ticker. And I called that shit to the shareholders. There's a video you can watch it and our BlackRock say treat Vanguard owes the same companies that owned Pfizer. Pfizer is the biggest advertiser.

[00:27:26] Oh, they were all in. That's true. Pfizer is the biggest advertiser. We need to do when we are. I forget where I read that having the worst record of body count of any country in the world. We had 16 percent of the COVID deaths under these two presidents.

[00:27:42] We only have four percent of the world's population. Oh, I don't know why people are getting awards or they're all patting each other on the back. We literally whatever we were doing was wrong because everybody else in the world did better than us. CNN questions.

[00:27:58] This is the first presidential election. That's fairly the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. Oh, good God. During the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in Idaho despite that state's restrictive ban.

[00:28:20] Former President Trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states. Correct. It wasn't him. It was the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills.

[00:28:38] Yeah, dude, I thought I thought Biden was going to last at least half an hour. Lock abortion medication. First of all, the Supreme Court just a high social bill. They did. I agree with their decision to have done that and I will not block it.

[00:28:52] And if you look at this whole question that you're asking, a complex but not really complex. Fifty one years ago, you had Roe v. Wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states. Everybody without exception. Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, it's not everybody wanted to back religious leaders.

[00:29:10] It's not true. I did is fucking true at all. Supreme Court justices on the court and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the state. They reversed the decision. Everybody wanted now 10 years. Well, no, that's not true.

[00:29:25] Talking about how many weeks and how many this getting into other things. But every legal scholar throughout the world, the most I gave him a half hour because of the State of the Union. I did that. Now, I don't know what they gave him.

[00:29:37] If you look at Ohio, it was a decision that was it was an end result. There was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought. Kansas, Ohio, same thing. Texas is different. Oh, I'm sorry. I got overturned. They're all making their own decisions right now.

[00:29:51] And right now, the states control it. That's the vote of the people like Ronald Reagan. I believe in the exceptions. I am a person that believes and frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions. Some people you have to follow your heart.

[00:30:04] Some people don't believe in that. But I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and the life of the mother. I think it's very important. Some people don't follow your heart. Donald Trump just say that. You have to get elected also.

[00:30:16] And because that has to do with other things, you got to get elected. The problem they have is they're radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, even after birth. Trump is a little hyperbolic.

[00:30:28] But if you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this. He said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby.

[00:30:37] What happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. It's been a great thing. Red, some crazy stuff. Thank you, President Biden. It's been a terrible thing, what you've done. Has it?

[00:30:49] The fact is that the West Virginia Constitutional Scholars supported Roe when it was decided. Supported Roe. Trump didn't do it. The Supreme Court did it. This idea that they were all against it is just ridiculous.

[00:30:59] And this is the guy who says the state should be able to have it. We're a state where in six weeks you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see a doctor and have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help.

[00:31:13] The idea that states are able to do this is a little like saying we're going to turn civil rights back to the states, let each state have a different rule. That's a valid point.

[00:31:21] But there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered. Well, there was a constitutional amendment. The idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in to talk about that. But here's the deal. What are you talking about?

[00:31:36] There's a lot of young women who have been raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters. It's just ridiculous. I don't think there's a lot. Most mandates have exceptions for rape and incest.

[00:31:52] There have been many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border. We have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. Stay on Trump Well. The most dangerous place anywhere in the world.

[00:32:04] And he opened it up and these killers are coming into our country. And they are raping and raping women. And it's a terrible thing as far as the abortion is concerned. It is now back with the states. The states are voting.

[00:32:16] In many cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision. In many cases, it's the opposite. But they're voting. By the way, everybody, if you're watching and you haven't already, please subscribe. Everybody wanted, including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which frankly, they didn't. And like the video.

[00:32:31] But they would have been. Or favor. Everybody wanted brought back. Ronald Reagan wanted it brought back. He wasn't able to get it. Everybody wanted it brought back. And many presidents. I know. He's chopping at the bit. I was going to do it. RFK wants to talk.

[00:32:43] And this gives it the vote of the people. And that's where they wanted it. Every legal scholar wanted it that way. He's ready to pounce. Oh, you're finally on the road. V Wade.

[00:32:52] My you know, I've spent probably more energy protecting medical freedom and any other leader in this country. And at and bodily autonomy. So I think that abortion should be the choice of a woman. And he's been pretty consistent on this state involvement until their baby reaches viability.

[00:33:18] And I think the states have an increasing. Yeah, but what's viability? That's the problem. I think the states have an increasing interest. Maybe he's watching. My policy on abortion is called more choice, fewer abortions.

[00:33:34] And that's because 52 percent of the abortions in this country, the woman says that economic considerations were the were that played the key role in her decision. Every abortion is a tragedy.

[00:33:47] I don't know if that's accurate, but I believe I want to have abortions over half of them, have them because they do not believe they can care for that child for financial reasons. I don't think that that should happen in this country.

[00:33:59] I have a child, a child care program as I talked to you before. Every dollar that we spend on weapons provides about two jobs. Every million dollars that we spend on weapons provides two jobs, creates two jobs.

[00:34:15] Every every million dollars that we spend on child care creates 22 jobs. It's good for our economy. It's good for choice. It's good for limiting abortions. And that's what I'll do as president. I don't have many notes. Or should President Biden seven states? I'll let you do that.

[00:34:39] This is the same topic. Seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion. Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy?

[00:34:53] I support it Roe v Wade, which had three trimesters. First time is between the woman and the doctor. Second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation. Third time is between the doctor. I mean, between the woman and the state.

[00:35:09] The idea that the politicians, that the founders want the politicians to be the ones making the decisions about women's health is ridiculous. That's the last. No politician should be making that decision. A doctor should be making those decisions. That's how it should be run.

[00:35:24] Trump blew stealing over there. So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth because some states... I assume you're talking about Trump or you're talking about RFK. Because honestly, I think Trump's done the best so far.

[00:35:40] Put the baby down then we decide what to do with it. So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby. Nobody wants that to happen. Democrat or Republican. Nobody wants it to happen.

[00:35:54] That is simply not true. Roe v. Wade does not provide for that. That's not the circumstance. Only woman's life is in danger. That's not what he said. That's the only circumstance where that can happen. But we are not for late term abortion, period.

[00:36:08] That's true, Haley. You never said you were going to be fair. Roe v. Wade, you have late term abortion. You can do whatever you want. No, you do not. We don't think that's a good thing. We think it's a radical thing. That is not true.

[00:36:22] Third trimester is off limits under Roe v. Wade. 51 years, Constance with scholarships said it was the right way to go. 51 years and it was taken away because this guy put very conservative members on the Supreme Court. He takes credit for taking it away.

[00:36:35] And ironically, in the hands of the states now, theoretically a state like California, who would legalize late term abortions under Roe v. Wade. They could not. When they pass on universal ban on abortion, period, across the board at six weeks or seven or eight or 10 weeks.

[00:36:50] Something very, very conservative. Is he going to sign that bill? I'll veto it. He'll sign it. Oh, cool. So, sir. To give you the same question, Mr. Kennedy, should there be any limit on a late term abortion? Yeah, I should be limited at late term should be limited.

[00:37:08] Absolutely. That's what was permitted under Roe v. Wade. That's what every European country has the same law. I don't think every European. If that baby is fully viable outside of the womb, the state has an absolute interest in protecting it.

[00:37:24] That was probably the best answer of the three. The issue of immigration and border security. President Biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch.

[00:37:38] Overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as New York and Chicago, and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns. Given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis? Because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only.

[00:37:53] Oh, fuck all you did. You did not. You pretended like you couldn't for three years and then all of a sudden you could. With the number of border police there are now, we significantly increased the number of asylum officers.

[00:38:06] Significantly. By the way, the Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position. Ooh, I've not heard a single agent being interviewed endorse you. Go. Don't go there. That started under Obama. And you're still doing it, you liar. I thought you couldn't change the law.

[00:38:29] You're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally. That's bullshit. That is not true. That is not. No! That is a lie. That is a fucking lie. That is not true at all. Verifiably false. Did a video on it. President Trump?

[00:38:49] I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he asked what he said either. Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country. I don't know about that.

[00:38:58] All he had to do was leave it. He decided to open up our border, open up our country to people that are from prisons. People that are from mental institutions in St. Esalen. Terrorists. We have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now. All terrorists.

[00:39:15] That's probably true. Not just in South America, all over the world. They had like 400 arrests recently. From the Middle East everywhere. And then just again, they're looking for 400 some odd people that came across with ISIS-linked traffic group. Because I didn't have legislation. I said close the border.

[00:39:28] We had the safest border in history in that final couple of months of my presidency. You didn't close it, but... We had, according to Border Patrol, who is great, by the way, who endorsed me for president. But I won't say that, but they endorsed me for president.

[00:39:41] Brandon, just speak to them. But look, we had the safest border in history. Now we have the worst border in history. There's never been anything like it. And people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up in caravans. President Biden?

[00:39:55] The only terrorist who's done anything crossing the border is one who came along and killed three under his administration. Killed an Al-Qaeda person coming in and his administration. That's not true. Killed three American soldiers. That's a lie. I'm not saying no terrorist ever got there with the idea.

[00:40:15] They just arrested people across, like 20 some odd people across four different cities that were all linked to Al-Qaeda. To support what he said. Once again, he's exaggerating. He's lying. CNN? You want to fact check that? What would you do about the border?

[00:40:27] Well, I would say on this one, President Trump is more right. President Trump is more right than President Biden. I think almost everything that President Biden said I know to be not to be true, including his claim that he was endorsed by the Border Patrol.

[00:40:44] I didn't think so. And you know, the border there's been at least seven million people who've come across the border. Maybe there was one Border Patrol guy. Principally and this is without the gotaways, which are another two million.

[00:40:58] So those are the people who don't go through the gaps in the wall. President Biden, when he became president, ordered a stop on the construction of the wall. That's the problem. There are 27 gaps in the wall and I stood in Yuma, Arizona. Really? So so?

[00:41:14] Between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. in the morning and I watched 300 people come across and I interviewed half of them. I hadn't seen that. I'm not doubting you. 110 came from West Africa, a young man of military age. The second 110.

[00:41:28] That's your RK went to the border from video Azerbaijan from from Nepal, from Tibet, from Bangladesh. Most of them were from China. None of them. Only two people the entire night that I interviewed had asylum claims.

[00:41:45] Only two people and they were both from the only people from Latin America, from Colombia and Peru. I think what President Thatcher again, you can find that video. I don't know how many terrorists have come across. I know the border patrol is extremely worried about that.

[00:41:58] And what's happening is not sustainable. President Biden ordered the but he can't he can't interrupt because the mics are muted when it's not their turn. I love it. I actually like I can't tell you why a long distance cameras were taken down. The night lights were taken down.

[00:42:16] Oh, there was some decision in the administration to open up the border and then the two laws that were changed under President Biden. And this is the day that he came in the catch and release law and a time is up. Sorry. Back to the CNN debate.

[00:42:32] And you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. I see this. I don't agree with that.

[00:42:40] All for every undocumented immigrant in America, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens and including those who have lived here for decades. And if so, how will you do it? Just one second. He said we killed three people.

[00:42:54] The people we killed are Al Baghdadi and Salamani, the two greatest terrorists, biggest in the world. And it had a huge impact on everything. Not just Al Baghdadi. Everything he died like a dog. People with a bad. Why are you crying? Abo hundreds of thousands.

[00:43:10] I wouldn't have died. And also killing our citizens when they come in. We we are living right now in a rat's nest. They're killing our people in New York, in California and every state. Yeah, that's cool. Don't touch on the mass deportation. Every state is now a border.

[00:43:27] And because of his ridiculous, insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen. We call it migrant crime. I call it Biden migrant crime. They're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before.

[00:43:43] And you're reading it like these three incredible young girls over the last few days. One of them had just spoke to the mother and he just had the funeral for this girl, 12 years old. This is what's taken place, what's taken place in our country.

[00:43:59] We're literally an uncivilized country now. He doesn't want it to be. He just doesn't know. He opened the borders. Nobody's ever seen anything like they touch on the. We have to get them out fast. Just take a look at where they're living.

[00:44:14] They're living in luxury hotels in New York City and other places. Our veterans are on the street. They're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans. He doesn't care. He doesn't like the military at all, and he doesn't care about our veterans. Nobody.

[00:44:28] I'm talking about the highest approval rating for veterans. I don't know what's in Biden's mind. He has the worst. He's gotten rid of all the things that I approved. Choice that I got through Congress, all of the different things I approved. They abandoned.

[00:44:41] We had by far the highest and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did. And I think he did it just because I approved it, which is crazy.

[00:44:50] But he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all of these people to come in. And it's a very sad day in America. President Biden, you have the mic. Every single thing he said is a lie. Every single one. No, that's a lie.

[00:45:02] Veterans are a hell of a lot better off since I passed the PACDAAC. One million of them now have insurance and their families have it. Their families have it because what happened, whether it was Agent Orange or Burn Pits, they're all being covered now.

[00:45:16] And he opposed his group oppose that. We're also in a situation where I don't think that's true. I'd have to look that up. My son spent a year in Iraq. Maybe went on the next one of those burn pits, came back with stage four glioblastoma.

[00:45:29] I don't know what you're saying no to, Sosa. Dang it. Can you tell me what I got wrong, Sosa? That's true. I didn't see the fact check on that. I'm sorry, Sosa. I don't know what you're talking about. Are you talking about Roe v. Wade?

[00:47:05] Shoot me a text about it, Sosa. Because I want to know. I'm not sure that's true. But I've never seen a document that could be of one candidate who was the president ever before in our history.

[00:47:43] Mr. Kennedy, the question which neither candidate answered was there are documented immigrants in the country now. What would you do? Well, I want to comment on their digressions because I know I think President Trump is right... No, don't go down that road.

[00:48:03] and crime that are associated with the immigrants, but more importantly there's just a sheer number of them. And I think a lot of the Democrats allowed this to happen out of a humanitarian impulse, out of the impulse of compassion, but when you're actually down there

[00:48:19] and talking to people, it's not a compassionate solution. The people that I talk to, many of them have been extorted, they've been exploited. I know right, he said Brandon. We have an immigration policy in this country that is now being run by the Sinaloa drug cartel.

[00:48:38] They've ordered patrol takes because they've been ordered not to do their job, they're catch and release. That's true, that's verified. Put them on a plane to any destination they want. This is true, it sounds like hyperbole, but it's not, and they pay their ticket. And if they,

[00:48:55] if they, and then they get reimbursement from FEMA. It's insane. There's 110,000 immigrants now in New York and President Trump's right, they're being put up at hotels. Many of them are on the street. They have an asylum court date seven years in the future. They can't legally work,

[00:49:18] or they're taken advantage of by predatory employers or paying six or eight dollars an hour and those employers are getting into union shops. We're getting paid 35 or 50 dollars an hour and these shops are losing the bid. They are kept out for endless island on the playing fields

[00:49:38] where the children are supposed to be playing. Even people who come legally, by the way. For sports, those fields were closed during COVID. So these kids, these wonderful New York City kids or scholarship tracks could not play their sport when their lives were,

[00:49:53] and now they're being the same things happening. They can't play their sport because there's- Which by the way, this podcast is brought to you in part by Stevie Wicks and their Independence Day candles are currently available at Stevie Wicks Stockholm. So get yours today.

[00:50:10] Which is now in its third year. Former President Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian territory it has already claimed and Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO. Are Putin's terms acceptable to you?

[00:50:29] First of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand this guy. They can't stand him. They think he's the worst commander in the- Can we answer the question please? That's what you call him that we've ever had. They can't stand him. So let's get that straight.

[00:50:43] And they don't know- I don't know why you're laughing. Just about any of them. And that's based on every single bit of information. As far as Russia- I mean, I've heard a lot of veterans and active duty soldiers on various places say that.

[00:50:54] If we had a real president, the president that was respected by Putin, he would have never invaded Ukraine. A lot of people are dead right now. Much more than people know. They talk about numbers. You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers.

[00:51:07] He did nothing to stop it. In fact, I think he encouraged Russia from going in. I'll tell you what happened. He was so bad with Afghanistan. It was such an- Oh no way, I would agree with that. Embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.

[00:51:18] That when Putin watched that- They're politicians, Haley. They never answer questions. He should have fired those generals, like I fired the one that you mentioned. And so he's got no love for us. And to be fair, I think Trump was smart not to answer that question because-

[00:51:29] No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind. We lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated. And by the way, we left people behind too. We left American citizens behind.

[00:51:46] When Putin saw that, he said- I'm curious to see what Joe will say about- I think we're gonna go in and maybe take my- This was his dream. I talked to him about it. His dream. The difference is- I said it before.

[00:51:56] I said it at the time and I'll say it again. He never would have invaded Ukraine. Never. I agree. Just like Israel would have never been invaded in a million years by Hamas. I don't know about a million years, but- Because Iran was broke with me.

[00:52:09] I wouldn't let anybody do business with them. They ran out of money. They were broke. They had no money for Hamas. They had no money for anything. No money for terror. That's why you had no terror at all during my administration.

[00:52:21] This place, the whole world is blowing up under him. President Biden? I've never heard so much malarkey in my whole life. Look, the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where- Let's take the last point first. Iran attacked American troops,

[00:52:36] killed- caused brain damage for a number of these troops. And he did nothing about it recently, not when he was president. They attacked. He said they're just having headaches. That's all it is. He didn't do a thing when the attack took place, number one. Number two-

[00:52:51] Yeah, I think I- So I believe you're talking about the grandparenthood of Afghanistan during that era. That could be wrong. Number three, we found ourselves in a situation where- I don't have it fresh in my mind. If you take a look at what Trump did in Ukraine,

[00:53:05] this guy told Trumps, do whatever you want, and do whatever you want. And that's exactly what Trump did to Putin, encourage him to do whatever you want. Listen to what he said when he went in. He was gonna take Kiev in five days, remember?

[00:53:21] Because it's part of the old Soviet Union. Yeah, they almost did. That's when he wanted to reestablish Kiev. And he, in fact, didn't do it at all. He didn't- And it was pronounced Kiev until the war. They lost thousands and thousands of troops, 500,000 troops. Thank you.

[00:53:36] President Trump, if I can come back to you for one minute, I just wanna go back to my original question, which is, are Putin's terms acceptable to you? Keeping the territory in Ukraine. No, they're not acceptable. I assume you're talking about their trimester being off limits.

[00:53:50] If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along. He's given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine. He's given $200 billion. That's a lot of money. I don't think there's ever been anything like it. Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion.

[00:54:07] He's the greatest salesman ever. And I'm not knocking him, I'm not knocking anything. I'm only saying the money that we're spending on this war, and we shouldn't be spending, it should have never happened. I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky

[00:54:24] as president-elect before I take office on January 25th. Oh, no, so you are correct. I was mistaken. After the second trimester, the fetus became viable and the state could regulate her outlaw abortion in the interests of the potential life except when necessary to preserve

[00:54:40] the life or health of the mother. Putin is a war criminal. He's killed thousands of people. So I was a little bit off. And he has made one thing clear. He wants to reestablish what was part of the Soviet empire. So they're not supposed to,

[00:54:52] but I'm sure there were plenty of loopholes that the organization you spoke of. You think he'll stop if he takes Ukraine? What do you think happens to the Pol? What do you think of Belarus? What do you think happens to those NATO countries?

[00:55:05] Well, Belarus is already his partner. And if he invades Poland, he's effectively declared war on NATO. By the way, all that money we give Ukraine and from weapons we make here in the United States, we give them the weapons, not the money at this point.

[00:55:21] And our NATO allies produced as much funding for Ukraine as we have. That's why we're strong. Mr. Kennedy, the original question, if anyone remembers it, is it was a good one. You say you want to negotiate with Putin. What if Putin says,

[00:55:40] just let us keep the territory we have and don't have Ukraine join NATO. That is Putin's right now, his opening bargaining position. Putin has been asking to settle this war from the beginning. In fact, he agreed to two separate treaties, the Minsk Accords in 2019, where Zelensky ran in 2019

[00:56:05] and ran promising to sign the Minsk Accords. Really the only thing Putin wanted was to keep NATO out of the Ukraine. He then in 2022, right after he first invaded with only 40,000 troops, when President Biden said there is absolute baloney. President Putin did not go into Ukraine

[00:56:24] intending to conquer Europe. He only sent 40,000 troops. It's a nation of 44 million people. He didn't even want to take Ukraine. He wanted us back at the negotiating table. Zelensky asked the United States to help him negotiate a treaty with Putin. And Biden administration said no.

[00:56:46] Zelensky then went and asked Israel and Naftali Bennett, the former Prime Minister, said yes, and Erdogan in Turkey said yes, and they negotiated a beautiful treaty in Istanbul in April of 2022. They signed the treaty. I believe he's referring to the Minsk Accords. The one thing that Putin wanted

[00:57:02] was that we didn't put NATO in Ukraine. He didn't want to conquer Europe. Ukraine and NATO. They signed it. Putin was withdrawing his troops, leaving Dumbass and Lugansk. And what happened? President Joe Biden sent Boris Johnson over to Kiev and forced Zelensky to tear up that agreement

[00:57:21] because they had another agenda, which is to weaken Russia. President Trump was part of it. President Trump gave the first 1.3 billion to Ukraine in 2017. Of course, that's the first of the first. As a check measure against Russia and Russia. They sent like a pay over there in 2019

[00:57:39] to say that we're gonna put NATO there. Oh, and then he walked away from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Treaty. Yeah, you were. With Russia unilaterally. We had a nuclear weapons treaty that we wouldn't put intermediate missiles in Ukraine or the other former Soviet satellite states.

[00:57:59] And President Trump walked away from it. So the two of them are equally. Oh, so I know where I was getting mixed up. I know where I was getting mixed up because at the third trimester, there is not federal protection for abortion. I was thinking about it wrong.

[00:58:14] You were totally right. We need to look at our responsibility and it falls both on the back of President Trump and President Biden. See, I can admit when I'm wrong. To the Middle East. In October, Hamas attacked Israel, killing more than 1,000 people and taking hundreds of hostages.

[00:58:40] Among those held and thought to still be alive are five Americans. Israel's response has killed thousands of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. President Biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict, but so far Hamas has not released the remaining hostages

[00:59:01] and Israel is continuing its military offensive in Gaza. So what additional leverage will you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war? You have two minutes. Number one. Oh, this should be good. Everyone from the United Nations Security Council straight through to the G7,

[00:59:19] to the Israelis, and they all of themselves have endorsed the plan I put forward. Endorsed the plan I put forward. Okay, what is the plan? Which has three stages to it. Okay. The first stage is trade the hostages for a ceasefire.

[00:59:31] Second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions. The third phase is the end of the war. The only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas. Okay, that's, yeah. We're still pushing hard to get them to accept. In the meantime, what's happening? Hamas won't accept it, but-

[00:59:48] In Israel we're finding, the only thing I've denied Israel was 2,000 pound bombs. They don't work very well in populated areas. They kill a lot of innocent people. We're providing Israel all the weapons they need and when they need them. And by the way, I'm the guy that organized

[01:00:03] the world against Iran when they had a full blown intercontinental ballistic missile attack on Israel. No one was hurt. No thanks to you. No one Israeli was accidentally killed and it stopped. That is true though. We saved Israel. We are the biggest producer of support for Israel

[01:00:21] of anyone in the world. No, the United States is. There are two different things. That's accurate. Hamas cannot be allowed to be continued. We continue to serve our experts and our intelligence people. So how they can get Hamas like we did Bin Laden. Oh, the pro-Palestinian crowd is-

[01:00:35] By the way, they've been greatly weakened to Hamas. Probably screaming in the streets. They should be eliminated, but you've got to be careful for what, using certain weapons among population centers. Just going back to Ukraine for a second. I don't know, does anybody know?

[01:00:52] We have an ocean separating us. Does anybody know if that's accurate about those? I would assume so. Those larger bombs, but- Maybe more than that, less than us. Why doesn't he call them, say you got to put up your money like I did with NATO?

[01:01:05] I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. The secretary general of NATO said, Trump did the most incredible job I've ever seen. You wouldn't, they wouldn't have any, they were going out of business. We were spending almost 100% of the money was paid by us.

[01:01:19] He didn't do that. He's getting all, you got to ask these people to put up the money. We're over a hundred billion dollars more spent and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between.

[01:01:31] You got to ask them as far as Israel and Hamas. Israel's the one that wants to go. He said the only one who wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually, Israel is the one and you should let him go and let him finish his job.

[01:01:44] He doesn't want to do it. He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one. President Biden, you have a minute? They don't know what the fuck you were trying to say.

[01:01:55] This is a guy who wants to get out of NATO. You're going to stay in NATO? He's going to pull out of NATO. The idea that we have, our strength lies in our alliances as well. No, our strength lies apparently in giving weapons and money

[01:02:07] to the Western hemisphere, Europe, and then some. Putin continued to go into NATO. We have an Article 5 agreement. He didn't go into NATO. You want to start the nuclear war he keeps talking about, go ahead, let Putin go in and control Ukraine

[01:02:23] and then move on to Poland and other places. See what happens then. He has no idea what the hell he's talking about. And by the way, I got 50 other nations around the world to support Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea, because they understand that this was a-

[01:02:39] I don't know that you've got them to do that though. As a serious threat to the whole world peace. No major war in Europe has ever been able to be contained just- Hello to everybody watching who may or may not have just joined us by the way.

[01:02:49] Okay, Mr. Kennedy, you may have forgotten the original question. Post some comments in there if you were in the live chat. As president, what leverage would you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war? Well, I would have used more diplomacy from the beginning.

[01:03:02] Yeah, but you can't use diplomacy against a terrorist organization. I think we have to recognize a couple of things. One is we're a nation of compassion. All of us are heartbroken by seeing the bloodshed that's happening in Gaza. All of us are affected and horrified

[01:03:19] by the injuries to the civilians in Gaza and the damage to the innocence- I mean, yeah, but that's on Hamas. In Gaza. For the most part. We also have to understand that Israel is in an existential battle now and that Hamas, which is a genocidal organization,

[01:03:36] which has pledged to Israel's annihilation, it's pledged to the extermination of Jews. He said it before I did. And it does not want a two-state solution. It wants a one-state solution. And for everybody who says that that's not in the Hamas Charter,

[01:03:50] yes, it is. It actually has in its charter a provision that says that it is against Islamic law to even negotiate with Israel. Oh, Israel's in a five-front war with Hamas, which is a proxy of Iran, with the Shia militias in Iraq and Syria,

[01:04:08] with Hezbollah, which these are all proxies of Iran, in Lebanon, and with the Houthis in Yemen. And it's being attacked on two fronts right now. It is at full war with Hezbollah. And we have to let Israel disarm Hamas. We have to support them. Israel's our oldest ally.

[01:04:30] It is the only democracy in the Mideast. If you can imagine- I don't know about our oldest ally. No, I would think Great Britain would be our oldest ally. In 80 years, people are entertaining that possibility. And in five or 10 years, Israel may not exist

[01:04:46] because they're no longer dealing with the weak and forces that they were in the 2000s and 1967 and 1956, et cetera. Hezbollah is the most proficient career of the world in Polish history. Iran is now a superpower. No, no, France. I'm sorry, France is our oldest ally.

[01:05:08] To maintain a war. So we need, and to wipe out Israel. We need to support Israel. France is our oldest ally. And the people in the White House are not capable of doing that. Ze'al insulted right now, and he's watching this debate.

[01:05:23] President Putin, we even need to be negotiating with Iran. And the neocons in the White House see this as a bipolar world where the United States is dominating the world and won't negotiate with anybody. And that is the problem that causes- Oh no, they won't negotiate with terrorists.

[01:05:40] Yeah. They never said anybody. We need to support the creation of an independent Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region. I'd have to see, but before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all our money. So they kill us on trade.

[01:05:54] I made great trade deals with the European nations because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically. Their economy is about the same size as the United States. And they were written, no cars, no. They don't want anything that we have,

[01:06:08] but we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture. I changed that. But the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay. And the only reason that he can play games with NATO

[01:06:20] is because I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. I said, and you heard about this. I said, no, I'm not going to support NATO if you don't pay. No, I don't know if every single bid is accurate, but there have been several NATO leaders,

[01:06:30] including the former president of the Netherlands that actually said, yeah, Trump called their bluff and we've spent more and we're happy we did. And they said, no, if you don't pay, I won't do that. And you know what happened? Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in

[01:06:44] the next day, in the next months. Yeah, I agree, Sosa. I don't know that that reaction, well, funny, I don't know if it was smart. The question was actually, would you support an independent Palestinian state? I'd like to answer the NATO question. I think that-

[01:07:05] You've got two minutes for what you have to do with it. I, you know, NATO- Sosa's being kind of a dick and I'm kind of here for it. When NATO was created, it was a full work against Soviet expansion. President Eisenhower said in 1959,

[01:07:20] if we do our job with NATO, it will be gone in 10 years. There could be Sosa, but it couldn't be run by Hamas. It would have to be run by a non-religious authority. And I think it's going to take, it's going to take generations. It's bankrupt.

[01:07:35] We have a huge, large budget. Minimum, minimum two, I think, for the Palestinian people, the Palestinians and Arabs that aren't integrated into Israel proper to be in a state where they could coexist. So not now. I think that's out of the question now.

[01:07:54] NATO is the instrument of that. I'm going to change, I'm not going to abolish NATO. I'm going to change the function of NATO so that it becomes an instrument of peace and not an instrument of US global domination abroad. I think you could easily turn NATO

[01:08:10] into a peacekeeping organization, sort of like NATO peacekeepers, but with them actual backbone. Would you support independent Palestinian state? I think that has to be decided between Israel and Palestine. Back to CNN. Oh no, you're right Sosa, the vast majority.

[01:08:28] And that's what nobody ever wants to talk about. Former President Trump, I want to ask you about January 6th, 2021 after you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the Capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes. As president, you swore an oath to quote,

[01:08:44] preserve, protect and defend unquote the constitution. What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction? I mean, because UN peacekeeping, even if you go back to Rwanda, they were virtually useless. When we say about January 6th,

[01:08:58] on January 6th, we had a great border. It dramatizes it, but it- Somebody coming through, very few. January 6th, we were energy independent. On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever. On January 6th, we were respected all over the world.

[01:09:14] All over the world, we were respected. And then he comes in and we're not laughing at that. We're like a bunch of stupid people. What happened to the United States' reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about

[01:09:31] where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat him fair and square. That's some banana republic shit. You have 80 seconds left. My question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated your constitutional oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th, 2021

[01:09:46] and worry that you'll do it again? Well, I didn't say that to anybody. I said peacefully and patriotically. And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago, on tape to her daughter, who is a documentary filmmaker, they say. Filmmaker? Oh no, it's my responsibility.

[01:10:04] I was responsible for this. Does she document Kofiiki? Because I offered 10,000 soldiers or National Guard and she turned them down. And the mayor of, in writing by the way, the mayor, in writing turned it down, the mayor of DC. They turned it down.

[01:10:18] I offered 10,000 because I could see, I had virtually nothing to do. They asked me to go make a speech. I could see what was happening. Everybody was saying they're gonna be there on January 6th. They're gonna be there. And I said, you know what?

[01:10:29] There's a lot of people coming. The best response he could ever make. And it's right, I watched that clip with Pelosi. And I said, they are asking National Guard or whatever. And I offered it to her and she now admits that she turned it down.

[01:10:42] And it was the same day she was, I don't know. She can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar. She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th. She did, I saw the video. President Biden? Well, she didn't say January 6th.

[01:10:55] He encouraged those folks to go up in Capitol Hill. Number one, I sat in the dining room off the Oval Office. He sat there for three hours, three hours watching, begging, being begged by his Vice President. I believe he debunked that actually. To do something.

[01:11:12] On a CNN town hall ironically. Instead he talked about these people being patriots and great patrons of America. In fact, he says he'll now forgive them for what they've done. They've been convicted. He says he wants to commute to a standstill. Well yeah, but some of those people

[01:11:27] that have been convicted didn't do anything wrong. They were literally let in. I watched the video. I don't know how many cases. Scores. Yeah, because he showed the tweet, right? The tweet with the time when he debunked it. No, no, this guy is responsible

[01:11:41] for doing what was done. He did do a damn thing. And these people should be in jail. And they should be the ones who are being held accountable. And he wants to let them all out. And now he says if he loses again,

[01:11:54] such a whiner that he is, that it could be a bloodbath. Thank you, President Biden. President Trump? What they've done to some people that are so innocent, you oughta be ashamed of yourself. What you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people.

[01:12:08] When they ripped down Portland, when they ripped down many other cities, you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis. Perfect 10 response. What they've done there, with the fires all over the city, if I didn't bring in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed.

[01:12:22] When you look at all of the, they took over big chunks of Seattle. I was all set to bring in the nation. According to Daily Wire, Biden's performance has the left panicking. No! No buffering! You're stuck at. National Guard, they heard that.

[01:12:40] They saw them coming in the office. And Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right. We were right. And they deleted and destroyed all of the information. They should go to jail for that.

[01:12:55] If a Republican did that, they'd go to jail. Thank you, President Trump, President Biden. I wanna give you a minute. Except Tucker got some tapes. The only person on this stage is a convicted felon is the man I'm looking at right now.

[01:13:04] And the fact of the matter is, he isn't, what he's telling you is simply not true. The fact is that there is no effort on his part to stop what's going on. Yeah, he's a convicted felon from a Democratic prosecutor, from a Democratic activist judge whose daughter

[01:13:17] literally runs a fundraising apparatus for Democrats in a district that Biden won handsomely, which is why they had it there. Now occupied offices turned over desks, turned them over statues. The idea that those people are patriots, come on. That's not who he's talking about, Joe.

[01:13:36] The first two debates we had, the debates we had the first time around. He's talking about the people who literally were told, yeah, you can come on in. You should know I'll tell them to stand by. Tucker Carlson released the video. The idea he's refusing to,

[01:13:46] well, we denounced these guys. We denounced the people who talk about that. He did denounce them multiple times. We denounced the people who protect that capital. This is old fake news. Okay, well January 6th obviously doesn't apply to you, but when would you bring in the National Guard?

[01:14:06] Well let me comment on what they were saying. I don't know if President Trump obstructed the orderly transition of power, which is one of the keystones of American democracy. I mean in a way they did, but it was ineffectual. It was ineffective. He should be held accountable.

[01:14:23] He's been indicted for that. To me there's a larger issue, which is that both the presidents swore to uphold the Constitution. They're both wearing American flag pins on their vests. Where's yours? That's easy to do. That's an accessory. That's an equipment.

[01:14:43] Who wasn't the guy who wasn't the guy grief years ago for not wearing the flag pin? Was that Obama? It's a badge of patriotism. A real patriotism means protecting the United States Constitution. And by the way everyone, also brought to you by the RTA podcast,

[01:15:01] which in July we are planning to do an episode where we talk to two Canadians of different political persuasions and discuss American politics from a Canadian lens. Like how Canada views the US. That's gonna be a really fun discussion.

[01:15:19] Don't have the date yet, but that will be in July. The FBI, the CIA, CISA, NIH, DHS, the IRS, and other agencies. They have a number will be in July. Go in and tamper with social media sites to take out things that were not politically palatable.

[01:15:38] They violated freedom of worship, the two of them, by shutting down every church in this country with no scientific citation. I'm sure. They violated freedom of assembly with mass regulations that again, the top scientists in this country I'm wrong, but I believe those were state ordinances

[01:15:53] because I don't think South Dakota ever closed. And Florida did close for a bit but then fairly early they were like, nah we're not doing this. Now that is some bullshit. And Trump did have a hand in that. No matter how reckless their behavior,

[01:16:10] no matter how grievous your injury, you could not sue them. They shut down 3.3 million businesses with no due process and no just compensation in violation of the fifth amendment. When my state passed the shutdown, I literally said we were considered essential but

[01:16:27] yeah when they made the announcement it wasn't clear and I literally said, I said you can either pay me or you can kiss my ass because if my business isn't open I don't make money. And if I don't make money I can't eat. That is, that's CNN.

[01:16:42] Then spite them words, I wouldn't go that far. I think Trump deserves to win her. After a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if reelected you would quote, have every right to go after unquote your political opponents.

[01:16:56] You just talked about members of the select committee on January 6th going to jail. Your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight. Can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents?

[01:17:08] Well I said my retribution is going to be success. We're gonna make this country successful again because right now it's a failing nation. My retribution is going to be success but when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level.

[01:17:22] His son is convicted, gonna be convicted probably numerous other times. Should've been convicted before but his justice department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things but he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office.

[01:17:36] Joe Capone could make a phone call with all of the things that have happened. He's done horrible things. All of the death courts at the border telling the Ukrainian people that we're gonna want a billion dollars or you change the prosecutor. Otherwise you're not getting a billion dollars.

[01:17:51] If I ever said that, that's quid pro quo. You're not gonna do anything. We're not gonna give you a billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor having to do with his son. This man is a criminal. This man, you're lucky. And he was vice president by the way.

[01:18:05] We'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. I did nothing wrong. Oh, I thought Biden was gonna win. President Biden, you have said, I'm coming right to you sir. Well, you wanna respond? Go ahead, I'll give you a minute to respond.

[01:18:16] The idea that I did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous. You bragged about it on video. Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American just because your president is wrong is simply wrong.

[01:18:32] No president's ever spoken like that before. No president in our history. That's not true, John Adams said. Number three, the crimes you are still charged with. And think of all the civil penalties you have. How many times a dollar for those civil penalties

[01:18:45] for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things of having sex with a porn star on the night while your wife was pregnant? That's not what he was indicted for. What are you talking about? You have the morals of an alley cat.

[01:19:01] Give me a minute sir. I didn't have sex with a porn star, number one. Yes you did. Number two, that was a case that was started. That's a lie. And moved, they moved a high ranking official, a DOJ into the Manhattan DA's office to start that case.

[01:19:14] Now that is accurate. That case was gonna be appealed in one. We had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat. That's true. The prosecutor were all high ranking Democrats, appointed people and both the civil and the criminal. He basically went after his political opponent

[01:19:32] because he thought it was gonna damage me. But when the public found out about these cases, cause they understand it better than he does. He has no idea what these cases are. But when they found out about these cases, you know what they did?

[01:19:42] My poll numbers went up way up. You're very, very, you're very kind Caitlin. And I took in more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in in the history of any campaign. I don't think any campaign has ever taken. I think that's true.

[01:19:54] Hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in. They crashed two sites I believe. Because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square. Thank you president. Again, the question doesn't really apply to you,

[01:20:08] but what do you think about the lawsuits? Oh that's why RFK wasn't. Here's what I say. President Biden made the point that it's wrong for a federal official to use his political, his federal government, governmental powers. It's an abusive power to use that to punish

[01:20:30] or just to punish political opponents. President Biden is doing that every day. Yeah. They've denied me secret service. That's true, they denied him secret service. That's absolutely true and he's supposed to have it. I'm the first candidate since my father was killed. When my father was killed,

[01:20:45] secret service became available. The political candidates prior to the convention. 33 political candidates have been given that prior to the hundred day cutoff, 120 day cutoff. I agree, he should have been allowed to be there. Most of them with polling number, a tiny fraction of what I had.

[01:21:01] He should be in all the debates. President Biden, I am the first candidate since 1968. The requirements are far too strict and it's done intentionally though. And that is a way of using the federal, of weaponizing the federal agencies to punish a political opponent.

[01:21:19] I think President Trump was right. I'm not a fan of President Trump. I'm running against him. I think he was a bad president. But he's right, it's shocking. Unless he picks you as VP and then you'll be his best friend.

[01:21:34] Signed this document saying that the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian hoax. When, and they were accusing the Russians of tampering with our election was actually the CIA tampering with the election. I wanna say this- So okay guys, let's call it even. Let's say-

[01:21:49] President Biden is now deployed- If the Hunter Biden laptop was a hoax, then so is the Stormy Daniels case. He's using that corporate money. To sue me and virtually every state to keep me off the ballot. That's not democratic. No, it is not. You know, President Biden-

[01:22:08] The only reason they kept him off is because they're scared of him. A couple days ago, let me just finish this. President Biden was criticizing and ridiculing Vladimir Putin for getting 88% of the vote in Russia. But Kennedy, I'm gonna hold you to the time limit.

[01:22:21] Let me just finish his point. The way that Putin got 88% of the vote was by censoring his opponents on state owned television, all the national TV networks, and by making sure they didn't get on the ballot. We should not be doing that here in this country.

[01:22:38] We should be an example of something better. I should also add something we are doing that I don't think we should be doing. We said the rules would be the same for you as for them. I've been asking my ears to give you more time-

[01:22:58] That's true, Stormy has changed her account of events a couple of times. So I'm gonna stop doing that. Back to CNN. President Biden, you have said quote, Donald Trump and his mega Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy. He's looking at him like he's a fucking cheeseburger

[01:23:14] and he hasn't eaten for three days. Will President Trump will be voting against American democracy? The more they know about what he's done, yes. The more they know about what he's done. And there's not more coming. He's got a lot of cases down the road coming around.

[01:23:29] He's got a whole range of issues he has to face. I don't know what the juries will do, but I do know he has a real problem. And so the fact that, could you ever think you're hearing any president say that I'm gonna seek- Thank you.

[01:23:42] You ever hear any president say that I thought Hitler had some good ideas? Thanks for giving me the W, Selzer. But got me involved to run the first place after my son had died and decided in Iraq because of Iraq. I said I wasn't gonna run again

[01:23:53] until I saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia. People coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches, torches, and singing the same anti-Semitic vile they sang when we were back in Germany. And what did, and a young woman got killed. I spoke to her mother.

[01:24:09] I'm pretty sure none of those people spoke German, but okay. What do you think of those people? The people who, the ones that got killed, the one who tried to stop it. This is old news Joe. It's already been debunked. The fine people on both sides.

[01:24:20] What American president- Yeah, talk about what happened next. Right, he's coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same anti-Semitic vile, carrying swastikas, or fine people. Yes, you've established that. This is a guy who says Hitler's done some good things. I'd like to know what they are.

[01:24:36] The good things Hitler's done, that's what he said. This guy has no sense of American democracy. Yeah, this is all news. It's another hoax. Jake, both of you know that story has been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence, it said 100% exoneration on this.

[01:24:52] So he just keeps it going. He says he ran because of Charlottesville. He didn't run because of Charlottesville. He ran because it was his last chance. He's not equipped to be president. You know it and I know it. It's ridiculous. We have a debate.

[01:25:03] We're trying to justify his presidency. His presidency, without question, the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. We shouldn't be having a debate about it. There's nothing to debate. He made up the Charlottesville story and you'll see it's debunked all over the place.

[01:25:20] I don't know that he made it up. Every anchor has, every reasonable anchor has debunked it. And just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked. It's a nonsense story. He knows that and he didn't run because of Charlottesville.

[01:25:33] He used that as an excuse to run. President Biden. And debunked, it happened. All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time and the idea that somehow that's the only reason I ran. I ran because I was worried

[01:25:46] a guy like this guy could get elected. If he thought they were good people coming out of that forest, carrying those woods, carrying those torches, then he didn't deserve to be president. Didn't deserve to be president at all. And the idea that he's talking about

[01:26:00] all this being fabricated, we saw with our own eyes, we saw what happened on January 6th. We saw the people breaking through the windows. We saw people occupying his own vice president. Look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers have refused to endorse him this time.

[01:26:17] His vice president has endorsed him this time. Why? Why? They know him well. They serve with him. Why are they not endorsing him? I think a lot of them are actually. There's no parallel question for you in there, but let me ask these two gentlemen,

[01:26:31] who would be worse as president? I mean, That's a really good question actually. You put the hammer on that nail perfectly. 70% of the American public say they don't want this contest because neither of them. I don't think seven. Well, okay, I'll believe that.

[01:26:50] Neither of them are running on the thing. They're still going to the vast majority are going to vote for one or the other. I believe that it's not ideal for 70%. The only argument they have is be scared of that other guy. He's a felon. He's a bad guy.

[01:27:01] He's going to destroy the Republic. They're running on fear. If Americans want to vote out of fear, they're going to vote out for these guys. If they want to vote out of hope, they can vote out of me. I'm going to grab a drink real fast,

[01:27:13] but while you wait, check out all of the wonderful podcasts. And actually this isn't even all of them that you can find on the RTA podcast. And the- 71% of people in this country are making less than the cause, the basic human needs.

[01:27:25] I want to talk about the fact that under their administrations, the top 1% of Americans now own more than the 60% that represent the American middle class. We, our country has utterly changed because of them. I run into elderly people who are cutting their prescription bills in two

[01:27:45] to make it through the week. Mothers who are downgrading their purchases at the grocery store to make it out of the checkout line. A couple in New Hampshire who told me they're in their bedroom or in their living room with a crying baby, arguing with each other

[01:28:01] about whether that baby is $50 sick or $100 sick or $500 sick before they bring it to a hospital. These are kids who come up to me every day and say that one day a week, they have to choose between buying gasoline and buying lunch. These are choices you're not supposed

[01:28:17] to have to make in this country. And it's them, these two who are not telling the American people how they're gonna get our kids into homes and that's what I want to talk about. Back to CNN. Welcome back to the CNN presidential debate live from Georgia.

[01:28:42] Let's talk about persistent challenges you both faced in your first terms and you'd certainly face again in a second term. President Biden, while black unemployment dropped to a record low under your presidency, black families still earn far less than white families.

[01:29:00] Black mothers are still three times more likely to die from pregnancy related causes and black Americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white Americans. What do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress?

[01:29:16] They acknowledge they made a lot of progress, number one. The fact of the matter is there's more small black businesses that have been started in any time in history. Number two, the wages of black. Black unemployment is the lowest level to spend in a long, long time.

[01:29:30] Number three, we find them providing housing for black Americans and dealing with segregation that exists among these corporate corporations that collude to keep people out of their houses. And in addition to that, we find that the impact of on the impact choice that black families have to make

[01:29:55] relative to childcare is incredibly difficult. When we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, I was able to reduce black childcare costs. I cut them in half. In half. So black people are the only ones that have trouble affording childcare?

[01:30:11] We gotta make sure because when you provide those childcare protections, you increase economic growth because more people come in the job market. So there's more to be done, considerably more to be done. But we've done a great deal so far

[01:30:25] and I'm not letting up and they know it. You have 49 seconds left. What do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far? I say I don't blame them for being disappointed. I don't either. And freshers still hurting them badly.

[01:30:39] For example, I provided for the idea that any black family first time homebuyers should get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home. Oh really? Only first time black homeowners? Homebuyers? All those black families and those black individuals

[01:30:55] who provided, had to take out student loans that were ballooning. That if they were engaged in nursing. Tell me you're a racist without saying you're racist. Anything having to do with volunteerism. If they paid their bills for 10 years on their student debt,

[01:31:10] all the rest is forgiven after 10 years. Right I know he just, he literally just admitted that his inflation is hurting people. Thank you President Trump. What about Hispanic families? Jewish families? Asian families. And he's right, it's been very bad. He caused the inflation and it's killing black families

[01:31:27] and Hispanic families and just about everybody. It's killing people. They can't buy groceries anymore. They can't, you look at the cost of food. Tell me about it. Tripled and quadrupled. They can't live. They're not living anymore. Don't shake your head Joe. He caused this inflation.

[01:31:43] I gave him a country with no, essentially no inflation. It was perfect. It was so good. He had to do is leave it alone. He destroyed it with his green new scam and all of the other, all this money that's been thrown out.

[01:31:56] Okay the Green New Deal didn't pass. He caused inflation. As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border. They're taking black jobs now and it could be 18,

[01:32:12] it could be 19 and even 20 million people. They're taking black jobs and you haven't seen it yet, but you're gonna see something that's gonna be the worst in our history. Thank you. President Biden. There was no inflation when I became president. You know why?

[01:32:27] The economy was flat on its back. 50% unemployment. He decimated the economy. Absolutely decimated the economy. COVID decimated the economy. At the time. There were no jobs. We provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals who are in all communities, including minority communities.

[01:32:45] We made sure that they have health insurance. We have covered, if the ACA has increased, I made sure that there $8,000 per person in a family to get written off for the healthcare. But this guy wants to eliminate that. Really? Because I tried to get insurance through the ACA

[01:33:00] and it was hellaciously expensive if not the same price. We find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing any, I've put more, we put more police on the street than any administration has. He wants to cut the cops.

[01:33:14] You have no control over the police. Equity and making sure people are shot, there's a lot going on. And at the very least at the state level, you have no say whatsoever in police presence. You lying fuck. Handle the pandemic. So trying to pass on a similar question.

[01:33:33] Then explain, yeah, if there's so many police, explain the riots. It's certainly true that some minorities in America do not do as well as us white people. And should government do something about that? And I agree with the assessment that inflation is disproportionately hurting black people

[01:33:53] because they're wage workers. No, no, no, no, no. They've got disproportionately. Inflation is disproportionately hurting lower income people. Income is disproportionately hurting black and Hispanic workers. I hear that every single day. I spent 10 years working with Cesar Chavez during the last part of his life.

[01:34:10] He had two issues. One was pesticides, disproportionate impact of pesticides on Hispanics. The other issue was the border because he understood all of these illegal Americans coming across the border were hurting the capacity of his workers, American workers, to get good jobs and wages.

[01:34:29] The issue that they didn't talk about, two issues, one is education. We spent $50 billion a year on the Department of Education and black kids in this country, it's a crime what is happening to their schools. When I was a kid, we had the best educated kids

[01:34:44] by every measure of any country in the world. Yeah, because you can't, in some places you can't decide where you go to school. We're now 22. We're throwing billions of dollars. So if you live in a shit district, and in inner city schools, you go to a shit school.

[01:34:55] Most of these kids cannot read or do math at great level. It is a crime. We need to give them choice. We need to give them charter schools. Neither of them have done anything about it. The last issue which both of them have aggravated

[01:35:08] is the mass incarceration crisis. They're not cutting it out. And the reason, I'm just trying to be a little bit different honestly. And plus I figure if I stream this instead of the direct debate, I think it lowers the risk of it getting taken down. Why? Because present,

[01:35:27] and plus I do wanna hear what RFK has to say. As the drug act in 1986 that he wrote, that gave 100 times the penalty for crack cocaine as powder cocaine. It was designed. Yeah, 2.9 million. For blacks in jail. Watching on X. 1994 omnibus crime bill with the superpredatory provisions,

[01:35:46] the mandatory sentencing, the three strikes. Oh no, you're good, you're good, so-so. I was just explaining why I'm doing what I'm doing. Double the amounts of blacks in American prison. The amounts of blacks in American prison were steady for the civil war till then. Back to CNN.

[01:35:59] Persistent challenge is the climate crisis. No it's not. 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history and communities across the country and we are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes and rising sea levels. Former President Trump, you've vowed to end your opponent's climate initiatives

[01:36:20] but will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? Let me just go back to what he said about the police. How close the police are to him. Almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting Donald J. Trump.

[01:36:38] By the way, I care about the environment and climate. Yeah I know, they're talking about climate change. I did my part, I bought an electric vehicle. Bought a Chevrolet Volt which has a gas generator. Even when it is running the generator the emissions are ridiculously low.

[01:36:57] I qualify for the tax credit. Yeah I know, climate change is almost a buzzword now. I prefer environment. Clean water, clean air. I'm all for it. And I'm all for other energy sources too but if you actually gave a shit about the climate

[01:37:33] then you're going to lose a lot of energy. In the environment, you'd invest in nuclear. People say they don't want nuclear in their backyard. Mr. Trump, will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? So I want absolutely immaculate clean water

[01:37:59] and I want absolutely clean air and we had it. We had H2O, we had the best numbers and we did, we were using all forms of energy all forms, everything. And yet during my four years I had the best environmental numbers ever

[01:38:18] and my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage actually. I want to verify that but I wouldn't actually be... I don't know where the hell he's been. The idea. I don't know where the hell you've been.

[01:38:29] You disappeared for a week for debate prep. I passed the most extensive climate change legislation in history, in history. We find ourselves, and by the way black colleges, I came up with $15 billion for HBCUs historic black universities and colleges because they don't have

[01:38:46] they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build these laboratories and the like. Any black student is capable in college you're doing what any white student can do. They just have the money but now they'll be able to get those jobs.

[01:38:59] What was that Biden said? Four kids just as good and capable as white kids? To have done something that had the cleanest water. Oh, 3.1 million people watching right now on X, not here. I wish. Keep out of the Paris climate accord. That's because it was worthless.

[01:39:16] We did a video on that. Which by the way, if you're interested to plug the average intelligence podcast we did two episodes, one where we graded Donald Trump's presidency and Biden's presidency up to a certain point. I forget exactly where it was.

[01:39:32] The Paris accord was going to cost us a trillion dollars and China nothing and Russia nothing and India nothing. It was a ripoff of the United States and it ended it because I didn't want to waste that money.

[01:39:42] Poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids. Nobody else was paying into it. Also apparently if you vote for Donald Trump you ain't black. I'll give you an example. I heard him say before insulin. I'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors.

[01:39:56] I took care of the seniors. What he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody. Yes, Biden repealed that and then did his own version of the same thing. I actually do believe that. I remember Trump went to East Palestine

[01:40:12] and brought food and water with his own money. I don't believe Biden's ever been there yet. The idea is that we in fact, we were the only ones of consequence who are not members of the Paris accord. How can we do anything

[01:40:35] if the United States can't get us under control? One of the largest polluters in the world, number one, we're making significant progress. No we're not. By 2030, I don't even think we're in the top five. We have made significant progress. I'm going to look that up.

[01:40:49] And we continue to make progress. We set up a climate corps for thousands of young people who learn how to deal with climate just like the Peace Corps. And we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution.

[01:41:03] But the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not seen any indication of that. And by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35,

[01:41:23] which I was calling for one, voluntarily. I made sure every company in the world, any pharmaceutical company, can now have the same. The first is the world's most polluted countries. Bangladesh is one, Pakistan is two, India is three, Tajikistan is four, Burkina Faso is five, Iraq is six,

[01:41:42] UAE is seven, Nepal is eight, Egypt is nine, and Democratic Republic of the Congo is ten. The United States is... I think that climate change, first of all, I want to say this. There's been nobody who's ever run for president in the United States and gotten anywhere.

[01:41:58] Well, let's say, I'll even say more definitively, who has a strong environmental record and a larger commitment to the environment. And I do, it's what I've been doing for 40 years. I believe climate change is existential, but I don't insist other people believe that. And I think we...

[01:42:22] I focus and I've always focused on market-based solutions, which I think are the most efficient. Eliminating subsidies for the energy industry, particularly carbon. We give carbon $5.2 trillion in subsidies a year and creating a national grid system that is robust enough to do long haul transportation of electrons.

[01:42:43] That, and we turn every American... USA is number 102 now. With the cheapest, most efficient forms of energy. The market, we need to start by protecting habitat, our air, water, wetlands, soils. That's the most important thing you can do from climate. It's almost altogether ignored.

[01:43:05] Okay, I don't trust this list because the numbers don't make sense. President Biden's program, which the Inflation Reduction Act does a few good things, but the bulk of it is large subsidies to the oil industry, to BlackRock and other really sinister corporations.

[01:43:25] Or carbon capture, which is a boondoggle. Carbon capture is a boondoggle. We should not be funding it. We should not be encouraging it. We shouldn't be encouraging any kind of geoengineering of that kind. We should be focusing on restoring our soils, doing regenerative agriculture,

[01:43:45] protecting our air or water or wildlife, stopping the carbon discharge from coal-burning power plants, which are causing a half a trillion dollars in respiratory injuries annually, poisoning every freshwater fish in our country with mercury. Sorry, your time is up. Back to CNN.

[01:44:05] So CNN says that the United States is number two, but I'm looking at other lists that don't even have us in the top 10. I guess it depends on what you're talking about. Raise the retirement age. How about you stop stealing from it? That's to everybody.

[01:44:35] They're not going to get a pay-per-view of their income, of their paycheck every single time they get a paycheck from the time they first one they get when they're 18 years old. The idea that they're going to... I'm not going to lie if you're proposing that. That's not even...

[01:44:48] What? Millionaires pay 1%, 1%. So no one after... I would not raise the cost of social security for anybody under $400,000 after that... Oh, slasher. He actually has a condition. It's actually a lot better. I can't remember what happened to him, but yeah, unfortunately he does have a condition

[01:45:08] that makes his voice sound like that. But it's actually getting better. That one enough will keep it solvent, but the biggest thing will do if we defeat this man because he wants to get rid of social security. At least you said if. He does not. He never said...

[01:45:23] He's wanting to cut social security and Medicare. He's never said that. And if you look at the program put forward by the House Republican caucus that he, I believe, supports, is in fact wanting to cut it as well. The idea that we don't need to protect our soldiers...

[01:45:37] That's not accurate. ...is ridiculous. And by the way... If I cut you mean raise the retirement age? Yes, but he's not talking about doing that tomorrow. And on the ACA, as I said... That would be people my age. ...where 400,000 people... I mean 40 million people...

[01:45:55] Yes, slasher, no, I mean even months before. Before I even really knew who he was. It sounded much, much... Like I thought it was painful for him to talk. Apparently it's not. It's gotten a lot better. We're in a situation where we talk about education for black communities.

[01:46:09] I've raised the... He's talking about RFK's voice by the way. ...the amount of money for Pell grants. Another $8,000... Sorry, I didn't mean to name drop you. ...$70,000 a year are going to be able to get $15,000 toward their tuition. I appreciate the live chat guys. Keep it coming.

[01:46:25] Thank you, President Biden. President Trump. I've dealt with politicians all my life. I've been on this side of... All my life! ...the equation for the last 8 years. I've never seen anybody lie like this guy. He lies, I've never seen it. Yeah, I wonder what the CNN numbers are.

[01:46:41] I'm sure it's higher. We mentioned Russia, Russia, Russia. Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Everything he does is a lie. It's misinformation and disinformation. He's definitely starting to fade. I mean he started to fade 10 minutes in. It's a total lie on the military. It's a disgrace.

[01:46:59] But Social Security, he's destroying it. Because millions of people are pouring into our country. And they're putting them onto Social Security. They're putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid. They're putting them in our hospitals. They're taking the place of our citizens there. What they're doing to the VA,

[01:47:13] to our veterans is unbelievable. Our veterans are living in the street. And these people are living in luxury hotels. He doesn't know what he's doing. And it's really coming back. I've never seen such anger in our country before. I don't know what you mean, Ali.

[01:47:27] Can you clarify please? The idea of veterans not being taken care of, I told you before. By the way, when I said suckers and losers, he said he had been after them. That's part of the reason why we're watching this one and not just the Biden and Trump.

[01:47:41] Because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said. He was the one standing with Trump when he said it. Number one. Number two. Or maybe he lied? Millions and millions of ways he talks about it. Illegal aliens are coming into the country.

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[01:48:15] Link is in the description. And by the way, worst president in history, 159 presidential scholars voted. And the worst president in history. Oh no, he's not even on the short list. Trump's not even on the short list for worst president in history. Social security is going bankrupt.

[01:48:33] Taxing the rich more won't solve it. Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter. Or what would you do? Well, I agree with you. And social security is not an entitlement to the rich. Social security is not an entitlement. Social security is a country that workers put 6% of their income into.

[01:48:53] John Adams. John Adams violated the first amendment, second president of the United States. They're told that at 65 they're going to get that money back. It's not an entitlement. It is contractual and the government, the United States government would be outrageous

[01:49:13] if the United States government did not live up to its full faith and credit of paying back those obligations. Even if it has to reach outside of the social security system to get it. Yes, he did just mess up there. Winding down our military commitments.

[01:49:27] We need to unravel the war machine. I think you can do that, wind down military commitments, but you have to do it very, very intelligently and strategically. I don't know this. I think there's probably a lot of redundancy though.

[01:49:41] I'm going to cut the military budget in half during my first four years. I'm going to use AI and blockchain to eliminate waste in government to save more money. That part I like. And I'm going to get rid of the chronic disease epidemic.

[01:49:55] And ultimately that's going to save us a lot of money. And this has to be a priority for us. That's one of the biggest things that I agree with RFK on, hardcore. I was astonished by President Biden's claim that we have the best economy in the world.

[01:50:11] I mean, we do, but it could be way better. None of this generation is going to get into a home. That's not true. Depends on where you live. The greatest economic engine in the history of mankind. While we're waiting for the video to buffer.

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[01:51:10] Yeah, I just think the cuts have to be done intelligently. And I don't know about trillions. I'm not sure what the budget is. Certainly in the billions at the very least. Hundreds of billions. Just to go back, the general got fired because he was no good.

[01:51:22] And if he said that, that's why he made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it. And they're very highly respected, much more so than him. The other thing is, he doesn't fire people. He never fired people. I've never seen him fire anybody.

[01:51:36] I did fire a lot. I fired Comey. I think some people were fired, but then he hires crazier people. They were no good. Not easy to fire people. I forget his official job. The staff member that got cost-ceiling women's underwear. I fired him. This guy hasn't fired anybody.

[01:51:54] He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan, the Afghanistan horror show. The most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. He didn't fire. Did you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that's on the border?

[01:52:08] That's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world? Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions? Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed?

[01:52:20] I would be pointing out more of the terrorists and cartels personally. Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn't be a debate. This should be a debate. He's the worst president.

[01:52:32] He just said about me because I said it. But look, he's the worst president in the history of our country. He's destroyed our country. Now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little jump on the border and come out with a nothing deal. Because it's true.

[01:52:44] This basically is a waste of time. Biden wasted a week preparing for this debate by the way. He wants open borders. He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as borders. So I read.

[01:52:56] I don't think we just can't let it happen. If he wins this election, our country doesn't have a chance, not even a chance of coming out of this rut. We probably won't have a country left anymore. That's how bad it is.

[01:53:10] He is the worst in history by far. Thank you President Trump. President Biden. We are the most admired country in the world. We're the United States of America. There's nothing beyond our capacity. We have the finest military in the history of the world. No thanks to you.

[01:53:26] No one wants to screw around with us. Nobody. Number two, the idea that we're talking about worst presidents. I wasn't joking. Look it up, go online. 159 or 58 don't hold me to the exact number.

[01:53:40] Presidents and historians, they've had meetings and they voted who's the worst president in American history. One best to worst. They said he was the worst in all of American history. That's not a fact. That's not conjecture. He can argue the wrong, but that's what they voted.

[01:53:58] The idea that he is doing anything to deal with child care, he did very, for virtually nothing to child care. We should significantly increase the child care tax credit. We should significantly increase the availability of children and men. Or single parents are able to go back to work.

[01:54:14] And we should continue to be businesses to hold. Thank you President Biden. President Trump, the question was about what would you do to make child care more affordable if you want to take your minute? Just so you understand.

[01:54:24] We have polling, we have other things that they rate him the worst because what he's done is so bad. And they rate me, I'll show you, I will show you. And they rate me one of the best, okay?

[01:54:34] And if I'm given another four years, I will be the best. To be fair, that depends on who you ask. But I think objectively. Nobody's ever created an economy like us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us. He's the only one I know.

[01:54:48] He wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times. He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire. Four times might be happy. Oh, well okay, in that, yeah. The two of you are going to pay four to five times.

[01:55:00] Nobody ever heard of this before. All my life I'd grow up and I see politicians talking about cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business. Apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country.

[01:55:12] The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it. President Biden? The fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about, he's increased the tariff. He will increase the taxes on middle class people. I said I'd never raise the tax above anybody.

[01:55:28] Not across the board, I'm sure somewhere. But this tariff, this 10% tariff, everything coming into the country, you know what economists say? Yeah, four to five times. $2,500 a year more. That seems a little. Because they're going to have to pay the difference. That's not true across the board.

[01:55:46] And all the things that are important. Number two, he's in a situation where he talks about how he has not raised, he somehow helped the middle class. Middle class have been devastated by you. Now you want a new tax of $5 trillion over the next 10 years.

[01:56:00] That's just, that's not fucking true. Which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country. You had the largest deficit of any president of American history. No it won't. No you didn't. Number two, you have not in fact made any kind of progress with China. That's bullshit. Since 2010.

[01:56:20] No that's bullshit. Back to their original question. I commented on this. I'm in an industry that used to import a lot of the products. Pretty much all the products from China. After the Trump tariffs came into effect, I was the only person that wasn't freaking out.

[01:56:38] I said it was going to suck for six months, but then the net benefit was going to outweigh the bad. And it did. Manufacturing moved to different countries including Mexico. The products were better. Quality control was better.

[01:56:52] Prices went up a bit, but that was really more due to infrastructure. And some of them have come down by the way. So no Trump did. Trump made a lot of progress with China. And that's not going to happen anymore.

[01:57:08] Now both parents in order to hold onto that home need to be working. So we do have a child care crisis in this country. And it's because of the destruction that both these men contributed to of the American middle class.

[01:57:20] And neither of them is offering any way to restore the middle class. Child care for black Americans, John, is 37% of income. And nobody can afford that. What I'm going to do, I'm going to wind out. Is that 37% of a single person's income or household? I would remember.

[01:57:48] Because it's existential. If we don't have the courage to do that, no matter what the cuts are, we have to do that. Or we are going to cease to exist as an influential nation.

[01:58:00] I'm going to put it, you cannot, we cannot cut our way out of this debt. We have to build new industry. We have to build GDP. And one of the most efficient ways of building GDP is through child care. Through guaranteed child care. There's a 22% return on investment.

[01:58:22] As I said, every million dollars we spend on military weapons creates two jobs. Every million dollars. I see what you're saying, it creates jobs. I gotcha. And we need to grow our way out of this budget death spiral.

[01:58:38] And one of the ways we're going to do that is by providing child care, by taking away half a trillion dollars from the military. Back to the CNN debate.

[01:58:50] Let's discuss an epidemic impacting millions of Americans that both of you have made a top priority in your first term. The opioid crisis. And for both of you, the number of overdose deaths in this country has gone up.

[01:59:04] Under your term it went up, under your term it has gone up. Former President Trump, despite the efforts that both of you have made, more than 100,000 Americans are dying from overdoses every year. Primarily from fentanyl and other opioids.

[01:59:16] What will you do to help Americans right now in these throes of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need? If I had to guess. To finish up, we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country under this guy.

[01:59:28] We have the largest deficit with China. He gets paid by China. He's a Manchurian candidate. He gets money from China. That's not what that means. But he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that I imposed on China.

[01:59:44] He never took them away. He can't because it's too much money. It's tremendous. I'm not sure if he's being literal or not. But he hasn't done that. But he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't, because it's too much money.

[01:59:58] But he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country and he's got the worst situation with China. Okay, appropriate, but I think Trump is going literal with that. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[02:00:08] If you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country, they are killing us as a country, Joe. And you can't let that happen. You're destroying our country. So President Trump, you have 67 seconds left.

[02:00:18] The question was, what are you going to do to help Americans in the throes of addiction right now who are struggling to get the treatment they need? Jake, we're doing very well at addiction until the COVID came along.

[02:00:28] We had two and a half, almost three years of like nobody's ever had before any country in every way. And then we had to get tough. And it was the drugs pouring across the border where it started to increase. We got great equipment.

[02:00:43] We bought the certain dog that's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen. Beautiful dog. We did a lot and we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers. By the way, if you haven't seen the Shane Gillis stand up, Beautiful Dogs. Oh my God.

[02:00:58] After this go on Netflix and watch it because it's so funny. Beautiful dogs. The amount of drugs and human trafficking in women coming across our border. The worst thing I've ever seen at numbers that nobody's ever seen under him because the border so bad.

[02:01:16] But the number of drugs coming across our border now is is the largest we've ever had by far. President Trump, thank you, President Biden. I'd be interested to see that, Ali. Fentanyl and the bipartisan went down for a while. Can you share a link? In the live chat?

[02:01:30] I'm not sure. I would like to see that. And I wanted to make sure we used the machinery that can detect fentanyl. RFK's got something to say. And it costs a lot of money. That was part of this deal we put together. This bipartisan deal.

[02:01:40] More fentanyl machines, more be able to detect drugs, more numbers of agents, more numbers of all the people at the border. Yeah, but the agents can't do anything if they encounter anybody. They're supposed to release them into the interior, take them to a fucking bus.

[02:01:57] It's going to hurt me politically. He never argued it's not a good bill. It's a really good bill. We need those machines. Well, it's not. It was a bullshit bill. I read it. We've done very hard in every country in Asia.

[02:02:08] You're leaving out the ridiculous standards for closing the border, by the way, to make sure that we're in that bill. technology to be able to put it together. That's what we have to do. We need those machines. Thank you, President Biden.

[02:02:19] Now, President Trump, and again, the question is about Americans in the throes of addiction right now, struggling to get the treatment they need. Well, this because this does pertain to it. He ended remain in Mexico. I made a catch and release in Mexico, not catch and release here.

[02:02:37] We had so many things that we had done, hard negotiations with Mexico, and I got it all for nothing. It's just like when you have a hostage, we always pay $6 billion for a hos- every time we say there's a hostage- Not a retreating arms dealer.

[02:02:48] ... we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter. I think a good guy, and he's over there because Putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter. I will have him out very quickly, as soon as I take office.

[02:03:05] Before I take office, I said by literally, as soon as I win the election, I will have that reporter out. He should have had him out a long time ago, but Putin's probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time.

[02:03:18] We had two cases where we paid $6 billion for five people. I got 58 people out and I paid essentially nothing. I like it when they cut them off on CNN. Yeah, I'm kind of a fan.

[02:03:33] We do have a big opioid problem, people in crisis, people overdosing, but also people in pain who can't get pain relief because doctors are afraid of the DEA. What would you do? Both of these presidents miss the point. They're talking about drug interdiction at the border.

[02:03:55] That's not the problem. In fact, that's true. If there's not clients, then they wouldn't be funneling it over. Fentanyl occupies such a tiny volume about one, 200 other opioids. You could bring enough fentanyl across the border in a briefcase to kill everybody in Los Angeles.

[02:04:16] So the fentanyl is going to come in this country. The problem is something much larger than that. It's the alien. Oh, OK. I wasn't trying to get you to drop anything like that. I just I would be interested in seeing that information.

[02:04:36] Yeah, obviously, no need to share it there. I would just be interested in saying it. Thank you. It is to begin taxing marijuana federally, to de-schedule it. From schedule one, where it is now with the federal government is not allowed to tax it.

[02:04:54] So marijuana is legal in many states, but the federal government cannot collect taxes on it. It's legal. It's not going to whether you can tax it or not, it's not going to affect the number of people who are using it or amount that's used.

[02:05:08] We're going to de-schedule it so the government could start collecting taxes. That will raise eight point five billion dollars in revenue. Probably more than that. We have money to build drug rehabilitation farms, wellness farms, restoration farms

[02:05:25] and rural areas all over this country where any American go for free to deal with depression, suicidal behavior, alcoholism, drug addiction to illegal drugs, but also addiction to SSRIs, to Benzos, to Adderall. We need to reclaim our children. If a whole generation that's growing up with social media,

[02:05:47] it's growing up with no hope for their future, they can't get into homes. They can't get meaningful jobs. Two minutes, Mr. Kennedy. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Let's turn to concerns that voters have as long as they actually treated people's addictions.

[02:06:00] President Biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term. How do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s? Well, first of all, I spent half my career being criticized, being the youngest person in politics.

[02:06:20] I was the second youngest person ever elected to the United States Senate. And now I'm the oldest. This guy's three years younger and a lot less competent. I think that just look at the record. I don't know about that. I've turned around the horrible situation he left me.

[02:06:34] As I said, 50 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs. Again, that's been... Even CNN debunked her shit. ...billions of dollars in private investment in enterprises that we are growing. No, that's promised. We talked about that during your State of the Union. That's not actual funds. That pledges.

[02:06:53] We invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to find the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring home a product. Trump didn't do that. I went to South Korea. I convinced Samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the United States. And guess what?

[02:07:11] Those fabs, they call them, to build these chips. Those fabs pay over $100,000. No, that got debunked. That was debunked. The vast majority of those jobs require a college degree at that pay late. The United States creating significant jobs for Americans from all over the world.

[02:07:30] President Biden, you have 40 seconds left. Would you like to add anything? Yeah, I would. The idea that somehow... Should we never run out of national pressure? ...this failing country. I've never heard a president talk like this before. Except you when you were running.

[02:07:45] Maybe a single major country president wouldn't trade places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities. We're the most progressive country in the world in getting things done. We're the strongest country in the world.

[02:07:58] We're a country in the world who keeps our word and everybody trusts us. All of our allies and our operatives. Not under you. Those who he coddles up to from Kik Jo Gere. He says, love letters to all the new people that are joining us on the stream.

[02:08:14] There's some comments in live chat if you'd be so kind. Please like the video and subscribe if you have not. What do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities? And obviously, if you miss the live stream, it'll be available to watch.

[02:08:26] Both of them, as you know, we made it public. He took none. I'd like to see him take one, just one. I'd like to see him take one through the first five questions. He couldn't do it, but I took two cognitive tests. I took physical exams every year.

[02:08:39] And, you know, we knock on wood wherever we may have wood that I'm in very good health. I just won two club championships, not even senior club, regular club championships. To do that, you have to be quite smart and you have to be able

[02:08:52] to hit the ball a long way. And I do it. He doesn't do it. He can't hit a ball 50 yards. He challenged me to a golf match. He can't hit a ball. Just a young smart to play golf. I think I'm in very good shape.

[02:09:02] I feel that I'm as in good shape as I was 25, 30 years ago. Actually, I'm probably a little bit lighter, but I'm in as good a shape as I was years ago. You must have been in really shitty shape 30 years ago. I was willing to take a cognitive test.

[02:09:16] And you know what? If I didn't do well, I case by far the best in the best shape. Jackson, who's physically speaking when he was White House doctor. And then I took another one, a similar one. And both one of them said they'd never seen anybody ace him.

[02:09:28] Thank you. President Biden, you can see he is six foot five and only two hundred twenty third pounds or twenty thirty five pounds. We're here. Six four two hundred. Well, anyway, that's it. You're anyway. Just take a look at what he says he is. We're all he is.

[02:09:45] Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him. Three. I got my handicap, which when I was vice president, said a game of golf, not a driving contest. And why are we seriously talking about golf right now? Carry your own bag. What the fuck?

[02:10:00] Seriously, this is the biggest lie that he's a six handicap of all. Why are we talking about golf? Stop talking about golf. I've seen you swing. I know you swing. You know, let's not act like children. President Trump, we're going to let's not act.

[02:10:16] Merciful when they cut them off now. Oh, yeah, do you know RFK is by far in the best shape of the three? All I got to say is I hope they let me on the stage for that contest. What do you do to stay healthy?

[02:10:37] What do you do to stay healthy? What do I what do you do to stay healthy? What do I do? I. Well, I I hike every day. I go to the gym every day. I don't ever eat processed food. And I do intermittent fasting.

[02:11:01] And I try to eat. Oh, yeah. Four point eight million. Like I really want to be part of that contest. By the way, those of you who just joined us, be sure to stay tuned at the end after the debate, where you will see a promotional video

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[02:11:32] if you can't make it to the event. Well, I shouldn't have to say that, but of course, I believe that it's totally unacceptable. And if you would see my battle get misquoted on Twitter at the time and also my statement that I made in the Rose Garden,

[02:11:48] you would say is one of the strongest statements you've ever seen. In addition to the speech I made in front of, I believe the largest crowd I've ever spoken to. And I will tell you, nobody ever talks about that. They talk about a relatively small number of people

[02:12:00] that went to the Capitol and in many cases were ushered in by the police. And as Nancy Pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine. She said that loud and clear for all that. The answer is if the election is fair, free.

[02:12:13] And I want that more than anybody. And I'll tell you something. I wish he was a great president because I wouldn't be here right now. I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself. I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political

[02:12:27] opponent, you know, opponent because he indicted me because I was his opponent. I wish he was a great president. I would rather have that. I wouldn't be here. I don't mind being here. It's a good line, though. The reason I'm here is he's so bad as a president

[02:12:42] that I'm going to make America great again. We're going to make America great again. Yeah, he would totally be there. Trump likes winning too much. We're a failing nation and we're a failing nation because of him. His policies are so bad. His military policies are insane. They're insane.

[02:13:00] These are wars that will never end with him. He will drive us into World War Three. And we're closer to World War Three than anybody can imagine. We are very, very close to World War. Unfortunately, he's driving us there.

[02:13:12] And Kim Jong Un and President Xi of China, Kim Jong Un of North Korea. All of these Putin, they don't respect him. They don't fear him. They have nothing going with this gentleman. And he's going to drive us into World War Three.

[02:13:26] By the way, Kim Jong Un just pledged troops to support the war in Ukraine on Russia's side. And let Putin say, do what you want, NATO. Just do what you want. That was debunked, Joe. Just think of Article Five. An attack on one is an attack on all.

[02:13:39] A required response. The idea, the idea. I can't think of a single major leader in the world who wouldn't trade places with the job I've done and what they've done because we are a powerful nation. We have wonderful peace because of the people, not me.

[02:13:54] It's because of the American people. They're capable of anything and they step up. So you can go. And right now we're needed. We're needed to protect the world because our own safety is at stake. And again, you want to have a war.

[02:14:06] Just let Putin go ahead and take Eve. Make sure they move on. See what happens in Poland, Hungary and other places along that border. Then you have a war. You already have a war. President Trump, as I come back to you for a follow up,

[02:14:20] the question was, will you accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins? Just to finish what he said, if I might. Russia, they took a lot of land from Bush. They took a lot of land from Obama and Biden.

[02:14:36] They took no land, nothing from Trump, nothing. He knew not to do it. He's not going to play games with me. He knew that. I got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games. He took nothing from me.

[02:14:48] But now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here. That's a war that should have never started. It would have never started ever with me. And he's actually I believe that. And, you know, you asked me a question before, would you do this?

[02:15:03] He's got now he's going to be misquoted saying that he's anti Ukraine. Because Ukraine is not winning that war. He said, I will never settle until such time. They're running out of people. They're running out of soldiers. They've lost so many people.

[02:15:16] It's so sad they've lost so many people and they've lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes that are a thousand years old, all because of him and stupid decisions Russia would have never attacked. That's the sound bite.

[02:15:30] The question was, will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins? Yes or no, please. If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. Good answer. I'd much rather accepted these. But the the fraud and everything else was ridiculous.

[02:15:47] And if you want, we'll have a news conference on it in a week. But we'll have another one of these on in a week. But I will absolutely there's nothing I'd rather do. It would be much easier for me to do that than I'm running again.

[02:16:01] I wasn't really going to run until I saw the horrible job he did. That's for sure. Our country, I would be very happy to be someplace else in a nice location someplace. And that's a lie. No indictments, no political opponents stuff.

[02:16:16] Because I'm not hating on you for it. Just tell the truth. But unfortunately, it's driven up my numbers and driven up to a very high level because the people understand it. Well, let's see what your numbers are when this election is over. Yes, we will.

[02:16:29] You're a whiner when you lost the first time you said you continued your appeal to appeal to courts all across the country. We lost one single court in America, said any of your claims had any merit. And isn't that strange that not a single one continued to provoke

[02:16:46] didn't even take it up. Why about somehow there was all this misrepresentation, all this stealing? There is no evidence of that at all. And I tell you what, I doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner. The idea if you lose again, you accepted anything.

[02:17:01] You can't stand the loss. Something snapped in you when you lost the last time. And that's it for the CNN debate. This is your form. You get the final word, but just one observation. So that was apparently the end of the CNN debate. America is in terrible decline.

[02:17:21] But I don't see people risking their lives to leave America or to go to many other countries. They want to come here. And you say the middle class is disappearing. It's true. It's getting smaller. But the divide is growing because they're going into the upper class.

[02:17:37] I think America is doing pretty well. And we just need you. We need the audience is super surprised by that statement. Did you see her? She went. President Trump's final point, which I think is a very, very important point for Americans to understand,

[02:17:54] we are closer to nuclear war right now and at any time since 1962. It's legitimately scary something extraordinary that was hardly covered by the press, which is we fired a missile in coordination with Ukraine into a series of missiles into Crimea

[02:18:14] with cluster bombs, which every nation in the world, except for us and North Korea, says is a war crime. We dropped them on a civilian population, people who were sitting on the sunning themselves on a beach. And we killed a lot of children. And the previous week,

[02:18:35] Russians are in Cuba firing missiles because they've warned us we are going to win the lose the war in Ukraine. I've said that from the beginning. We cannot beat Russia in the Ukraine. They will not. They cannot allow themselves to lose that war.

[02:18:50] They've been invaded three times through Ukraine. Last time they were invaded, Russians killed or the Hitler killed one out of every seven Russians. They're not gonna let us put NATO in Ukraine. They cannot do it. It's absolutely critical for their national security. And we need to recognize that.

[02:19:08] And if you know your history of Russia, you understand why it's not just World War II. With a nuclear power that says they wouldn't use nuclear weapon if they're pushed to the edge. Including Napoleon. They have 2,500 more nuclear weapons than we do. They have better defensive weapons

[02:19:24] and we cannot fight a world war anymore because of hypersonic missiles, we couldn't get a million men across the Atlantic. Even worse, we do not have an industrial base like we did before World War II. We can't create weapons anymore. We create small numbers

[02:19:39] but nothing like the Chinese or the Russians. This is something that every American needs to understand. How close at the incompetence of this administration has brought us to war. I'll shut up. But let me. We have closing statements from. Can I say? You'll get your closing statement

[02:19:59] right after they get there. Oh, I apologize. There are closing statements. He said the end. It is now time for the candidates to deliver their closing statements as predetermined by a coin toss. We're gonna begin with you President Biden. You have two minutes. We've made significant progress.

[02:20:21] God, he sounds older. By President Trump in his last term. We find ourselves in a situation where, number one, we have to make sure that we have a fairer tax system. I ask anyone out there in the audience or anyone out watching this debate,

[02:20:37] do you think the tax system is fair? The fact is that I said nobody would make it under $400,000 had a small increase in their taxes. And if I'm reelected, that'll be the case again. But this guy has increased your taxes because of the deficit.

[02:20:54] Number one, he's increased inflation because of the debacle he left after the way he handled the pandemic. And he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything that comes into United States of America.

[02:21:08] What I did, for example, he wants to get rid of the ability of Medicare for the ability for us to be able to negotiate drug prices with the big pharma companies. Well, guess what? We got it down to $35 for insulin instead of $400. He did that first.

[02:21:32] No more than $2,000 for every senior no matter how much prescription they need. You know what that did? That reduced the federal debt by $160 billion over 10 years. Because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices. I'm gonna make that available to every senior

[02:21:51] all along, and it's happening now. And everybody in America, he wants to get rid of that. We have, I'm gonna make sure that we have childcare. Yeah, I'll believe that shit when I see it. To increase the credit people have for childcare. Trump did that.

[02:22:04] And make sure we do something about what we're doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country. We're gonna continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break. I believe Flint happened under the Obama administration.

[02:22:18] President Trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement. Just saying. Like so many politicians, this man is just a complainer. He said we wanna do this, we wanna do that. He's a whiner. And we can get this tax, that tax. But he doesn't do anything.

[02:22:30] He doesn't do, all he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in. Our military doesn't respect him. We look like fools in Afghanistan. We didn't stop Israel. It was such a horrible thing that would have never happened.

[02:22:45] It should have never happened. Iran was broke. Anybody that did business with Iran, including China, they couldn't do business with the United States. They all passed. Iran was broke. They had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah, for terror, no money whatsoever. Again, Ukraine should have never happened.

[02:23:01] He talks about all this stuff, but he didn't do it. For three and a half years, we're living in hell. We have the Palestinians, and we have everybody else rioting all over the place. You talk about Charlottesville. This is 100 times Charlottesville, 1,000 times.

[02:23:14] The whole country is exploding because of you, because they don't respect you. And they have to respect their president, and they don't respect you throughout the world. What we did was incredible. We rebuilt the military. We got the largest tax cut in history,

[02:23:28] the largest regulation cut in history. The reason he's got jobs is because I cut the regulations that gave jobs, but he's putting a lot of those regulations back on. All of the things that we've done, nobody's ever seen. The Biden administration has basically...

[02:23:44] Anything good that they've done, for the most part, has been reintroducing Trump-era policies. Look it up. We're in a failing nation, but it's not gonna be failing anymore. We're gonna make it great again. And he ran out of time. Mr. Kennedy, two minutes, closing statement. In 2015... Mr. Kennedy!

[02:24:29] ...was a poll taken that asked young people under 35 in this country... Kennedy. ...out of the United States. 85% said yes. I am. Same poll taken five months ago, 18% said yes. So somehow during the administration of these two presidents, an entire generation of Americans...

[02:24:49] You're not proud of the president, but... ...pride in our country, and a hope in their own futures. And they feel that... I'll give credit when it's due, but I just... Can't get into a home. It's rare. First generation in history in America

[02:25:03] that has gone to live worse lives than their parents. That's... They see the vitriol that you saw here. That's true. The division, the polarization... For the most part. ...that nation discussed with politics. They're seeing that the corrupt merger of state and corporate power

[02:25:17] that has transformed our agencies from the CIA, health agencies, the environmental agencies into sock puppets. The industries they're supposed to regulate. They're seeing the destruction of our soils, the destruction of our air and water. And that's way more important. Watching this happen and politicians do nothing about it

[02:25:38] except for hate on each other. Than our carbon emissions. If you want more of the same... I know CO2 is important, but there's... For President Biden, President Trump. We're doing better. But what's gonna happen? You know that. They're gonna give you four more years of the same stuff.

[02:25:55] If you want things to completely change, you're gonna support me because I'm gonna change everything. And this is a moral fight. This is a moral battle for the soul of our nation to restore our moral authority around the world by projecting economic power abroad

[02:26:16] rather than spending $8 trillion on regime change wars that have left every nation we've touched worse off than we found it. And restoring our moral authority here at home. The first day in office, I'm going... You heard what they're gonna do. You don't even understand it.

[02:26:35] Here's what I'm gonna do. Day one in office. I'm gonna issue an executive order saying any federal official who tells a lie to the American public will lose his job. Oh. You're all gonna be fired. I'm gonna stop the surveillance state. Ron Swanson would be pleased.

[02:26:56] I'm gonna stop the propagandizing by our agencies of the American public. If you enforce that, they're all done. I'm gonna unravel the war machine. I'm gonna unravel the corrupt merger of state and corporate power. I know how to do it. I've been litigating against these agencies for years

[02:27:12] and I'm uniquely suited to do this, but I can tell you, I'm gonna do these things when I get in there. I'm gonna make sure that our constitution is protected. That AI is deployed to make government more transparent rather than by government to enslave the rest of us.

[02:27:29] I'm gonna bring AI home and blockchain home because we need these new industries to grow our way out of the debt crisis. This is something that these two aren't even talking about. Speaking of things like that, there's gonna be a major announcement soon.

[02:27:45] I can't talk about it yet, but there's a new business venture that we're joining up with, Arate Media and Forsen Corporation. That's gonna be very exciting, very cool. So stay tuned for that. That's fine. Okay, I'm gonna mute it real quick to see if we need to...

[02:28:21] Very supportive of this candidate. Thank you for watching this different kind of debate. I don't know what you learned, but... Bobby, Bobby, Bobby. To me, the most reliable gauge of who does well on a debate is election betting. And I can report after this debate, Biden is down 13%.

[02:28:52] Trump, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, and Mr. Kennedy are up. Thank you and good night. That's not surprising at all, actually. That's not one bit. It's not the least bit surprising. Yeah, so that was the debate. I'm actually very, very pleased. Yeah, it was a fun night.

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