Down The Middle Episode 63: Review of All In 2018

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[00:00:35] Here's my thing. There was a disease easier for me. It is for me now too, yeah. But my Mondays are my Mondays for my workweek and it made it easier going in, but like it also made a rough

[00:00:51] for me. My Mondays and Fridays are the complete worst at work. I can see that. Well, tonight's my Friday, but I got a little more sleep than I usually do, so I'm okay right now. That explains your chipper. Go get them attitude.

[00:01:09] Well, that's a drink of rock star. Oh, well, yeah, that too. But first, before we get into All In, I want to run something by you. Do you think, because we're still doing every other week, but on Thursdays now. So keep that. You should have.

[00:01:25] You should already have notifications enabled if you subscribe anyway, and if you haven't subscribed, you definitely should because we're just we're awesome. But so we're on Thursdays now, every other Thursday.

[00:01:37] But my question to you is do you think in the next two weeks, you will be able to watch the Iron Claw? Um, where is it going to be? It's going to be in theaters. You're at the theaters?

[00:01:54] Uh, I don't know if it's streaming. It's 824. So I'm not sure. Well, I thought I'd seen something that it was going to be on max. Maybe I probably will be you. I just, I'm not sure when I don't know if they're doing a dual release.

[00:02:07] I'm going to go watch in the theater, but I thought it would be really fun to kind of merge wrestling and movies a bit, because we normally don't talk about movies on this podcast. But since it's about wrestling. I've heard nothing but good about the movies.

[00:02:23] Oh, dude, it looks. A 24 has just been amazing. I haven't seen a movie of theirs yet that was bad, not seeing they haven't made any, but as from what I've seen everything's been like an 8.5 or higher.

[00:02:38] Let me get back with you. Maybe we'll work something that we both got the same time. Oh, that'd be, that'd be interesting. We have a little, a little date. Oh, no, sorry. Look at a little like Chuck over there. All right, well, I'm going to.

[00:03:02] Actually, which one of us, I guess you would be Chuck Poulombos here? I think your hair is slightly darker than mine. Um, are you writing? You're just darker than mine. Uh, but I don't write a motorcycle. Neither do I. Okay, so I guess it's up in the air.

[00:03:19] Okay, I'll be Chuck. Whatever. It's all, it's all a work anyway. Um, but yeah, so we tentatively might be covering the Iron Claw in our next episode. So stay tuned. We'll make an announcement.

[00:03:33] I really, really want to, but if you can't watch it in two weeks and we can't talk about it in two weeks. So any, how? Let me get back with you. Okay. But the other funny thing is, um, it's, this is hilarious.

[00:03:49] There's two things I've noticed about every trailer that I've seen for it. The fact that they got the smallest guy to play Carrey Von Erick who was like the biggest one.

[00:04:02] I don't know if he was the tallest, but he was, he was the most jack of the four brothers. Yeah, because the first I was like, wait, he's carry. Like, no, it'd be wrong. They all look phenomenal.

[00:04:15] I totally thought that Zac Efron was carry just from the build, but then I saw him without the shoes and I'm like, wait, no, that's, that's Kevin. I was confused. But I will say this.

[00:04:27] I found it very funny that with the exception of, uh, I forget the actors name, but the exception of the actor that's playing Carrey Von Erick, they all look the same from the neck down. But none of them look the same in the face. Not a one.

[00:04:40] They're not a dead ringer in the bunch. Uh, well, I did just find out it's not in the night and then I didn't know that, uh, that Chavez wanted to actually trade them. Uh, not only that. Angie F was involved somehow. I think he was, uh,

[00:04:54] I can't remember how, but Chavo also plays the Iron Sheek in the movie. So that's going to be fun. He's playing the Iron Sheek. He's playing the Iron Sheek. But he's not built like the Iron Sheek. Welcome to this movie, because, honestly, with the exception of Zach Efron,

[00:05:14] uh, everybody's a little bit smaller than they should be. Not, I'm not trying to take away from what the actors accomplished, because they all look phenomenal, but they're just not that big. But that's like a giant range. That's like, I know, that's what I'm saying.

[00:05:33] I'm not, I'm, that's what, I'm trying to have very much zero play the big show. I know, I'm not cutting them up. I'm just saying that it is what it is, but I noticed specifically with, I noticed specifically with, uh, carry on, Eric. I was like,

[00:05:53] I don't know, but anyway, but the, yeah, but the other funny thing I noticed is virtually in every trailer, they're either wrestling or eating. It's one of the two. You know, now that you actually say that, I kind of agree with you. And this is just me.

[00:06:13] This is why I noticed that. Um, the sound of people chewing is nails on a chalkboard for me. So whenever there's a scene in a movie and food commercials of the worst, because they're like, we want you to hear the crunch. That's, somebody's chewing and it's crunching

[00:06:29] that's nails on a chalkboard for me. It's awful. But every scene in this movie, they're like, I don't really hear the eating, but they're talking while they're eating. So it's like, well, you can all rise up in the rankings, and I'm like, oh, so I noticed it.

[00:06:46] So that'll be fun. That'll be a fun experience in the theater. But, I know what kind of videos this in you. Oh, don't please don't. But, anyway, other than that, the movie looks phenomenal. Like I said, I've heard nothing but good about it.

[00:07:04] And it looks like there's going to be a lot of wrestling scenes in it. So props to everybody, because as we're all aware, you really can't fake that. I mean, you can make it safer. There are things you can do. And since you're, they're recording,

[00:07:18] you have the benefit of being able to do some more stunt work, but still, if there's a wide shot of a ring and people are wrestling, you can't fake that. I don't know, maybe we might break down in segments too. I would imagine so, but anyway,

[00:07:36] speaking of segments, we're going to jump into all in. Now, you said something before we went live that will make this very interesting, because we're coming at this from two completely different perspectives. I was there. And I've seen it. Because after I went,

[00:07:52] I was curious about what it looked like on camera, so I watched it and then we watched it. We both watched it recently to kind of get a fresh in our minds. I've never seen it in its entirety before. Like I said, yeah,

[00:08:05] I've never seen it in its entirety. Like I've seen like, boots and pieces and clips like over the years. I'm like, I knew the whole coding Nick Aldestang, and just a few things I knew from it, but I never fully watched it until the last nine.

[00:08:22] So now that you've seen it in its entirety, do you agree with this? That it works, it works much better as a show than individual matches. I shouldn't say better, but it's a very cohesive show is what I'm really getting at. It was definitely well thought out.

[00:08:54] I think that's a better way to put it. Yeah, they thought about what they were booking, how they were doing it, the match order, there's one match I disagree with its placement, but everything else was it all made sense. Yeah, yeah,

[00:09:10] there was one match where I think it definitely should have been main. Yeah, we know what match that is. Like the main was good. I really liked it as it really enjoyed it, but I don't think it's not a main event. And so my main,

[00:09:26] I'd have been okay with it. So my main, I would have taken main event, or even a start to show with that. Start with the main show, yeah, because there was, yeah, well, wasn't really, I guess it was, yes it was, there was a pre-show. Yeah, okay,

[00:09:44] that's why I didn't see it. I skipped a page. So in the, okay, so there's a funny story behind the pre-show. It wasn't going to be one, but WGN approached Cody and the box, and I assume ring a boner. And basically ask them, can we do a pre-show?

[00:10:00] Because it was so random. All in zero hour was on WGN of all places. And so they made, they made two pre-show matches to err on an hour of WGN to try to somewhere, even though it was sold out in person,

[00:10:14] they were trying to sell more paper view by. So that's where we're going to start actually. So let's start first with the commentary team for zero hour. We had Excalibur, Don Callis, and Ian Rickabani. Now I don't know what happened between here and AW, but I don't,

[00:10:33] I don't love Excalibur on commentary, but honestly he was good on at all in. I didn't have an issue with it. I mean, I'm not big when it comes to commentary really. I mean, I've always had my like, couple of favorite people that does commentary.

[00:10:51] Like other than that, like commentary is just not a big thing for me. It's a comfortable, it doesn't make or break a map. It doesn't make or break a match, but I think honestly bad commentary can break a show. Agreeable. I do agree on that. Yeah,

[00:11:07] I think commentary, because let's be real. When we're watching wrestling on TV with very few exceptions, and I shouldn't say, nobody's really bad at it. There are just some commentators that aren't maybe not your cup of tea. Like for example, I can't say in Michael Cole,

[00:11:22] but he's not a bad commentator. Otherwise he wouldn't have worked at WWE for as long as he has. I don't particularly like Corey Graves, but I know a lot of people love Corey Graves. I don't really, who it graves that I don't really care for.

[00:11:35] And one of the ones I'm smack down and I don't care for, I don't know if there's names. I don't really love any of the WWE commentators that are active now. But for example, this shows you how different structure different folks. Mara Ronello is one of my favorite

[00:11:53] commentators. Period. And when he was in NXT and WWE, there were so many people that hated him. And I'm like, what are you talking about? This guy makes us all sound legit. I think I appreciate it as puns. My favorite commentator would probably have to be,

[00:12:16] oh, I'm blank now. ECW. Joey Styles. Joey Styles. Joey Styles. I did like Joey Styles, but I preferred him when he had a color commentator. Okay. I think Tuesday's kind of the magic number. Sometimes, sometimes a three-man booth will work, but I think Tuesday's the magic number

[00:12:40] because you have, like J.R. in the King for me, will probably be my favorite combo. But I also really enjoy Joey Styles and Taz. You know, they work well. Even commentary 14A. Back in the day. My 10A was great. I have zero wish.

[00:12:59] My 10A and Taz was good. Mike 10A and Don West were good, even the early days of TNA. You know, it was really good. I think WWE just feels really cookie cuter now, but going back in Rick Abonni's phenomenal.

[00:13:13] Don call us actually love Don call us on commentary, especially when he's not working as a heal. When he's just doing straight commentary, I like him better. But he can do heal commentary. He's done it for decades. Yeah. You know, and then Excalibur here is actually pretty good.

[00:13:30] I was going to say tolerable, but that's it's actually pretty good. But anyway, our first match of the pre-show sees SCU for those who don't remember. Frankie Gazarian and Scorpio Sky, because yes, they used to be in a tag team together. Versus the briskos,

[00:13:46] and I completely forgot about this match. And I was like, oh, the briskos. And then I have Rocky. Oh, yeah, okay. So SCU's ring gear. You basically have Scorpio Sky dresses up all agreed from Rocky. And then I didn't notice this at the time, but it's so obvious.

[00:14:14] Caesarians were in the Rocky's gear from the first Rocky, the Italian saline gear. So they're having some fun with it. And then of course, the briskos come out as they usually are. Okay, I didn't. Sorry, one of our podcasts uploaded some shorts today, and they're doing well.

[00:14:38] So I guess they decided to share that with me. But the match was fun. Although I will say, I remembered this a bit through rose color glasses. While it was, it was nowhere near as much BS as we see in A, W now.

[00:14:56] There's still some moments that are kind of an questionable psychology. But overall, it's good match. It's a great opening match. The crowds into SCU used to be able to get the crowd into it like no one else. You know, it's so easy. SCU.

[00:15:10] The chance all that good stuff and who doesn't love the briskos. Did you have any thoughts on this one? I mean, it was the match match well. You know, everything worked. I didn't really like you said, it just there were some spots that were like,

[00:15:32] the most of it worked out great. Like the finishes good. There was, there was false pants. I mean, crowd was with it. Yeah. And the funny thing about this is where they were smart and how they booked it. So everybody knew there really weren't, well,

[00:15:50] there was one heel in this match. I'm not this match this show, but everybody knew there really weren't any heels or faces. This was mostly because everybody was just very supportive. Everybody wanted to support this independent franchise.

[00:16:04] So you didn't really have any good guys or bad guys person. Well, okay, there might have been two, which we'll get into later. But most of these matches are framed in like this is competition, which was very, very popular at the time too. We've started to,

[00:16:21] and I know Jim Cornett has criticized this. He's like, we're both friends, but we're competing. I actually like that when it's done well, and it's not hard to do it well. This was very popular at the time, especially in places like Ring of Honor in New Japan.

[00:16:36] Some of the best matches, frankly, were more competition and less heel baby face, especially in New Japan. They did it so well. It wasn't, I'm mad at you, it was who's better. And we're going to fight with everything we have. It's a New Japan thing that I love.

[00:16:59] You know, they kill each other, and then after the matches over, they shake hands no matter who wins who loses. Because everybody, and you know some perspectives, that's great. When it's done, when it's done well, when I find that when it's done well, and both people are believable,

[00:17:16] it can be a really, really good thing to do. A great match would be, a hoganerop. But what's funny? So that happened organically because it was, a hogan was supposed to be the heel. Yes. But the crowd wouldn't have. They weren't having it. And I love,

[00:17:38] that's why it's such a great moment. Because, you know, obviously there's just the image of it, but you know both of them are looking at each other like, the hell is going on? I think, I think they're cheer me, brother. It's like, all right,

[00:17:54] we're going to flip it then. But then they were also behind rocks. So yeah, so it's like, there was no happy medium, so they just, they had end up just cheering both of them. Well, but then it's like, well, I guess we're getting them out of the NW.

[00:18:07] They're not having this. They're pretty much right after that. He was at an NWO. I think I read, I can't remember if I read it somewhere, or if I'm just thinking it, but I think that was why they got him out of the NWO, because after that match,

[00:18:21] they were like, he's a baby face now. That's what you can do now. Yeah, the crowd has spoken. But anyway, SU won this match, but it was nice to see the briskos again. You forget how good the briskos really were,

[00:18:40] until you go back and watch any of their matches. Well, I never, I never seen much footage of the briskos. Like I never really watched anything of the briskos. I never watched Ring of Honor when they were ring of honor. They're like, watching that match. I'm like,

[00:18:56] they're really underrated in my opinion. They were criminally underrated. I never understood how, now I think to be fair, I think Jim Cornette said something about this. It might have been because they didn't want to go anywhere, but Ring of Honor.

[00:19:10] And they kind of have to be big to do tours of Japan, like for the company. And I believe it. I believe that they were, you know, content with what they were doing during Ring of Honor. So if that's the case, great, they should have been a WWE.

[00:19:25] If they had wanted to. Yeah. But it was nice to see them again. Following this match, we had a promo from Kenny Omega, and my notes here. He's not good. He asked the questions and answered them. This was, this is a terrible backstage segment. It was awful.

[00:19:46] It was cringe. And Kenny Omega basically interviewed himself. And do what? That's the only way you can put it. Yeah. Literally interviewed himself. I mean, it was cringe. It was bad. So thankfully, it wasn't very long. Then we are treated to a promo featuring all in by Downstate,

[00:20:07] which is a kick ass song written for the paper view. Downstate has collaborated with WWE and several other wrestlers. Time and again, but songs awesome. It was perfect for this paper view. Which makes sense because it was written for this paper view.

[00:20:25] But then we have the second match. The, which this is so fun. This is the young bucks written all over it. Over the over the budget battle royal. The winner faces Jay Leethel for the ring of honor world title later in the show.

[00:20:44] The participants are Billy Ray, Billy Gunn. And we're going to play a little game here, which not out loud, but keep this in your mind. Because a lot of people that were on this show are now big time players in either WWE or a, you do be,

[00:21:04] but a lot of these people are in WWE now. And it's kind of funny. So we got Billy Ray, Billy Gunn, Marco Stunt, Chico Arluchador, he'll come into play later. Tommy Dreamer, Jordan Grace, who is now in impact or TNA, I guess it's TNA again isn't it?

[00:21:21] Well, not until January. Well, they're calling, I think they're calling impact TNA wrestling. They're referring to it as TNA, but I don't think the new logo goes into effect until January. I think you're right. So it's okay, we're calling it TNA. Everybody called it TNA for years.

[00:21:36] Chuck Taylor, who as we, Chuck, Chuck Taylor and Trent Beretta, who we all know were in AEW. Ethan Page, who was now in AEW, but was in, was he an impact at the time? I think he was. I think he was. Yeah, he was part of the north,

[00:21:54] right? This was 2018. Yeah. With Josh Alexander. Rocky Romero. Colt Cmanna, Brandon Cutler, Punishment Martinez. Which I didn't realize that's who that was at first when I seen it. And I'm like, Is that David Priest? And the only thing I noticed it is when he did the,

[00:22:15] the over the head with arms, the clap. That's what I'm like, that's David Priest. He, he built up a bit. Let's be fair. Since then, he was always a big dude, but he's, he's, he's filled out a bit. Oh, Lauren. Hold on. Speak about a big dude.

[00:22:33] Did you see AJ come back? Styles? Yes. He is freaking ripped. Like I thought Randy was ripped when he came back. I saw him a silver, a silver frame or whatever it was. This last one, silver frame, silver series. Survivatory series. It's, it's, War games. Yeah. Survivatory games.

[00:22:53] When Randy came back, I thought he was ripped. He was. Then I see, then I see AJ and I'm like. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, Randy's bigger, but I think the difference AJ like, his own whole shit. Like, but he's not just toned.

[00:23:16] He's bigger. Like, they both fucking huge. I sorry, had a throw that in her. I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. You meet Gaser. Anyway, we also have moose, Jimmy Jacobs, Brian Cage, Austin Gunn, Hurricane Helms, and I forgot this dude even existed. Cheeseburger. Yeah.

[00:23:49] I remembered this with Rose Colour glasses. Remember that? I just want to yesterday, and I'd be like, remember that name. These, the little guy in the green, mostly. I don't know. So I just have some notes here. Jimmy Jacobs at one, so you have to, okay,

[00:24:08] so for those who don't remember because there's some history here, Jimmy Jacobs worked for WWE for many, many years on the writing staff. Until Cody in the box, parity the DX invasion angle at a SmackDown taping for being the elite, which by the way, it's a hilarious episode.

[00:24:28] There's a crowd of people that formed organically and they do the whole bit. Cody is speaking to the crowd on a megaphone and recites the speech of independent stay, but nobody knows what he's doing until they realize what he's doing and the boxer like,

[00:24:41] is that the speech from independent stay? So, but anyway, what you don't see is when they roll up to SmackDown, they actually do like, get some attention. Jimmy Jacobs comes out and takes of picture with them and it's great because they're, like, they're joked Cody's outside. He's like,

[00:25:05] we're gonna take my last name back, you know that kind of shh. Which after I remember, because also at the time at the time, Cody was going by the American Nightmare Cody because Cody Rhodes was technically trademarked by WWE. So he couldn't use this last name.

[00:25:20] Which is hilarious now because now he's back in WWE, but I digress. One of the people though, was Jimmy Jacobs, who not only took a photo with them, he shared it on social media and was fired over it. Wow.

[00:25:37] So then he went back to the independent wrestling circuit. So during this match, Jimmy Jacobs does the five knuckle shuffle. I'd you remember seeing that? That is why he did the five knuckle shuffle. It is little too, too. Yeah, Jimmy Jacobs is a weird dude.

[00:25:55] I was never a fan. It was weird. Apparently he was good on the writing staff, though a lot of people like working with him from what I was told. I don't know why I wrote it this way. Oh, now I do. Flip Gordon. Oh, actually. Sorry.

[00:26:16] Chico Elucidor wins this match like a bitch because he is thrown out of the ring through the bottom rope very early and then just kneels in a corner until the things almost over. And then we... You thought bubble was going to win it? Yeah, I totally thought bubble

[00:26:34] was going to win it. So everybody thought he was? Yeah, however, before we get into the ending anything happened in this match that you want to mention, we're hurricane homes try to choke slam bubble ray. Yeah, this is another match. I think I was actually getting this one

[00:26:53] confused with the Battle Royale at Double or nothing. Which I actually really enjoyed. This one had a lot more goofy spots but did you also notice Tommy Dreamer's Oh, much to dusty with his pants? The poke the poke it out pants. Yep. That was cool.

[00:27:13] There was a lot of stuff that was dumb but there was a lot of cool spots too. I will say almost everybody got a chance to shine in a good way. So just about. Just about. Mark let's try to go up the bubble

[00:27:28] and start giving them the chops and then the bubble just throws them over the top and see, okay, so I'm going to give some praise here. That's how you can utilize somebody like Mark O. stunt because it's ridiculous. Bubble ray should pick him up with one hand

[00:27:43] and throw him however when you and Mark O. stunt they were doing this with Mark O. stunt in the beginning and then it got stupid. He would occasionally get some surprise offence in and then the heel he was working would have the appropriate reaction of that

[00:27:58] works when you have him start convincing and leading people that have a hundred pounds on him. That's when it starts getting bad and that's why he's no longer with the company. But. Chico alluded to or reveal himself to be

[00:28:17] Flip Gordon which, okay, some of you may not remember Flip Gordon at the time he was very very hot and ring of honor. Wasn't a world champion but he was on his way up and then nothing really happened. I think he got injured and then it kind of

[00:28:32] fizzled out. I can't remember. But he was. Well, I mean he wasn't the championship picture but he had just gotten there. He was kind of a hot act. Actually you know what? I'm going to look up what he's doing now.

[00:28:46] He may be he retired for all I know. Flip Gordon. Let's see. Okay. It's not listing much the last thing it has is a. 2018 New Japan. Oh no. He's still he was in ring of honor till 2021. I guess he's just bounced around the Indies right now. Anyway,

[00:29:22] So Flip Gordon is going to face Jay lethal for the ring of honor title later in the show, which actually could have been a really good match but. The young bucks just couldn't help themselves but we'll get to that. So now we start with all in the

[00:29:39] the main show. Opening match. A then unknown except to MLW van. MJF versus Matt Cross. So just my notes real quick. And this MJF is such a heal. And it's worth noting MJF as we knew him and loved him before he became.

[00:30:04] I don't know what he is now soft. Not in a W creation. The MJF we got in a W was the exact same as he was in this match. Uh, Con my penmanship is terrible. Oh, okay. Do you remember anything out of this match

[00:30:27] out of the MJF just being a textbook heal and great? Again, it was a first time seen for both of them. Um, So it kind of helped me out with watch because like me being being able to see MJF now.

[00:30:47] You could tell MJF was a little greener then. Yeah. Little smaller than two. A little a lot smaller. Yeah. But it shows how much he's grown and how good he truly is because you got to remember this was God five years ago.

[00:31:06] Yeah, it would have been five years ago. Yep. It seems like it wasn't that long ago and at the same time it feels like so much has happened since then. But I enjoyed this match. It was one of more favorite of the matches than it.

[00:31:24] You know what I really loved about it is it was simple. Like, and I don't mean it was in a great way. MJF's the heal. Matt Cross is the baby face. Matt Cross wrestles like a baby face. MJF wrestles like a heal. He's disrespectful.

[00:31:40] Matt Cross gets the pin with a shooting star press which makes perfect sense at this point in time because on the end, these people knew who Matt Cross was not everybody would have known who MJF was and he was younger.

[00:31:52] But what's interesting, there are a lot of really prophetic moments in this show. Ian Rickabani on commentary. Maybe one day MJF's day will come. Ha ha ha ha ha. Look at him now. Yep. Not to take anything away from Matt Cross.

[00:32:09] I think he's still on the in-bouncer on the end these by choice. I think he loves the traveling schedule. But MJF is now the AEW World Champion. And I dare say maybe the best AEW World Champion we've ever had.

[00:32:22] You know, at this point is probably not hard to argue it. On paper, at least on the on the on the on the bookers paper because he's the longest one too, is he not? Yes, he'd be a kidneys. Yep. So anyway, on to match two,

[00:32:45] this was very interesting. Christopher Daniels versus Steven Amel of Arrow fame. So I could definitely. I don't want to say it as in because he everything never ever the other guy, not Chris for Daniels. Steven Amel. Yeah, Steven Amel.

[00:33:12] Like it's hard to say it's a bad match because this was like what is first ever like it was his I think was his first single match. He'd done a tag in WWE with Cody. Okay, okay. Oh no, I think he had a match with Cody too.

[00:33:33] I think I think this was his third match. I think he'd done a tag and a singles with Cody. I'm trying to remember I could be wrong. So this is the second or third match ever. At least in front of people. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.

[00:33:46] It's like it's hard to say it's a bad match but it's. You can tell where he's just he was just so green still. He was very stiff and I don't mean like hitting hard. I mean, he was rigid which it makes sense.

[00:34:00] In my opinion, it works match the night in my opinion but that's only because of Greenwood. I would agree with that. So some of my notes Steven Amel is a freak athlete. For how much he had done previous.

[00:34:18] I think considering how much training he had or had little training he had done. It was very good. You would know a little bit more about that than I would. The one frustrating thing about watching on land now is I don't know what it was.

[00:34:32] They had the crowd mic turn way down. Because I'm telling you there was not a quiet moment in this show and you can barely hear it on the feed which was a real shame because people were losing their minds.

[00:34:46] My section you can kind of hear it but my section started chanting broken arrow when he went through the table. It was way louder in person. People were chanting DCU and you know people were chanting arrow arrow.

[00:35:05] Crowd was into it and I think Steven Amel deserves a lot of credit for having the guts to do that on a show like that. What's even better? He got put with it. I like Chris and Daniels. Which that was definitely done on purpose.

[00:35:22] I don't think there was anybody better to run them through a single match with of that link because the one he did with Cody would have been very sure if he if it was a single smash. And I remember the tag he didn't do a lot.

[00:35:34] There wasn't a lot of wrestling done on his part. But yeah, and you can tell Daniels is leading the whole thing. But as far as what was presented, they told a story in the ring. Christopher Daniels was like, who is this guy think he is?

[00:35:53] I've been doing this for 20 years and you think you can just come in my domain. That was the story. Yeah exactly. And rightfully so, Daniels wins but at the end they shake hands give credit regret it's due. It's the only way that match could have ended.

[00:36:13] I mean it was short sweet to the point. Yeah, it got to go over. Yep. Told the story. This is a speaking of stories. This is a really funny story. So the next match was a women's four way match.

[00:36:28] Now I can't remember if they said this but I can't remember they said this on TV. But I was confused when this match happened because they said it was a elimination. Like in the arena they said it was a elimination. It was not an elimination match.

[00:36:46] I didn't know that. I don't think they said it on TV but I remember did they say it or what's not on the program? I can't remember. But going in everybody was like cool this is a elimination match.

[00:36:58] But then they announced the rules and we're like, oh it's not a elimination? I don't remember. But the funny thing was I heard the women's matches coming up and I had to pee.

[00:37:07] So I was like cool, I'll wait till I'll wait till Steven and Mel's matches over and then I'll go to the bathroom. But I wanted to see the entrances because entrances are one of my favorite parts of wrestling.

[00:37:20] So we have Tessa Blanchard and I was totally there for Tessa Blanchard. Chelsea Green this was when she was doing her hot mess gimmick. Hey how keen evening guys before that match I had no idea who Christopher was but turned me into a fan right after.

[00:37:39] Yeah totally. If you hadn't seen Christopher Daniels before, basically after you watch one of his matches you become a fan of Christopher Daniels. Even when he was even when he was under a mask as a, what was his name? Suicide. No suicide.

[00:37:56] When he's doing his new Japan or his when he was fired from TNA. Yeah that was suicide. The noodle guy. Oh no I'm thinking of Austin areas he was suicide. Well at Christopher Daniels did wrestle with suicide but when he was unmasked, it was that duty was shared.

[00:38:18] Who was his name? I can't remember. But anyway, so this is when Chelsea Green was doing her hot mess gimmick and then also Madison Rain.

[00:38:32] And I think Britt Baker had wrestled a little bit for Ring of Honor but she was still very new and she was in this match. So I have to pee. So okay cool. They're in the ring the match starts. I go.

[00:38:46] And then there's a short line for the bathroom but it's not too bad. But then I start hearing the crowd going nuts and I'm like, oh shit is this good.

[00:38:56] And then they have monitors out in the hall so I'm watching the match as I'm waiting in life for the bathroom and I'm like, Oh shit this is good. So I'm like trying to hurry up and pee so that I can get back to my seat.

[00:39:07] Thankfully I didn't miss that much of it. But it's also worth noting that Britt came out to Adam Cole's then Ring of Honor music which was cool.

[00:39:18] Do you remember anything I'm not in this match other than I mean it was good. It was great. I mean honestly for what it was, it was pretty good. It was very good. I'm nothing like specific, nothing specific.

[00:39:34] Other than Chelsea Green worked like a made of it or at that time. Yes she did. Like she worked like she was the top dog. She did that's a great way to put it actually and you know what's funny. She works largely the same now.

[00:39:52] There's a lot of similarities in what she was doing then and what she was doing now. Britt Baker obviously stepped her game up way more but that just jubby goes up time. I don't she wasn't really incorporating the dentist thing yet.

[00:40:09] I don't think now I can't remember my memory is fading but not certainly not as much as she's leaning into it now. Test of blanchered was really really big at this time. Looks like a million bucks.

[00:40:21] I know some stuff came out on social media about her after that but I'll be I don't know. I wasn't there. I'm only judging it based on what happened in the match and the Madison Rain you know was Madison Rain.

[00:40:33] Not she wasn't bad at all but I mean it was we've seen Madison Rain for a long time now because I mean she even wrestling in TNA for quite some time by this point.

[00:40:44] Yeah but what was funny was the end of this match because Tessa Blanchard won but I'm not going to lie it kind of looked like a mistake.

[00:40:52] It looked like I forget who she covered but it looked like she kicked out and the ref missed it because right after everybody does kind of seem a little confused. You know thinking about that like that makes sense now like I do remember that part.

[00:41:14] Yeah so I'm not sure if I'm pretty sure Tessa was supposed to win but I think there might have been a miscue with the ref or something like maybe the match was supposed to go with a little bit longer. I don't know. I'm not sure.

[00:41:28] I'm not sure and I never did get confirmation of that but it wasn't just me because there were people talking in the audience they were like I'm not sure. Was that a botch I can't really.

[00:41:36] Couldn't really tell and there was just that weird pause where everybody's kind of like what happened. But then everybody kind you know they go ah and the group hug and all that cum buy a bullshit anyway. So the next match should have been the main event.

[00:41:52] Hands down both in what it was what it was for and crowd reaction because let's be real. I was gonna go to all in anyway but this is the match that I showed up for.

[00:42:06] I am of course talking about Nick all this the NWA world heavyweight champion versus Cody not Rhodes. For the NWA 10 pounds of gold.

[00:42:18] Now there was a lot going on here this is when Nick all this almost not single handedly but he'd held the NWA title for a while he brought a lot of prestige back to it.

[00:42:29] Billy Corrigan had purchased NWA I think one or two years prior to that and was trying to resurrect the brand and they were it was working. And a lot of that was due to how Nick all this was being portrayed as a champion.

[00:42:45] And they were doing like the 10 pounds of gold many series on YouTube which was phenomenal I think it's still up. This whole thing just felt like classic wrestling and I mean that in the best way this felt like territory wrestling honestly.

[00:43:05] You know it did it felt it had that 80s style like early 80s like early 80s territory days kind of like you know down the Texas territory it felt like that and it was so. Good.

[00:43:24] Which I probably wanted my favorite matches in the night it's one of my favorite matches period because not only this had the biggest fight feel.

[00:43:36] It's certainly in the top five as far as a big fight feel of wrestling matches I've ever seen it was the biggest fight on the card for sure and the crowd reflected that.

[00:43:46] Just have some notes here should have been the main event it had the best story it was match of the night had the best psychology of any match of the night.

[00:43:54] Big fight feel the crowd was a wall of sound through basically the whole thing like when they cheered Cody and boot Nick it felt like you could feel the sound because it was coming it was like I said it felt like a wall of sound.

[00:44:15] The place I honestly believed that if Nick all this and one that match the place would have rioted. That place what they would have been throwing things they would have been throwing chair it would have been bad I honestly believe that.

[00:44:33] But yeah I mean this match was it was brutal it gave us an idea of what we would see from Cody in the future. It was great and honestly I didn't mind the brandy spot and the way they played it because Nick all this.

[00:44:51] This was so genius because Nick all this was definitely the heel of the match but he didn't go full on heel because if you don't remember there's a spot where all this I think is doing going for an elbow but he's going off the top row.

[00:45:03] And Brandy jumps over Cody when all this is in mid air and the way he plays it is like listen I'm an asshole, but I didn't mean to do that you know.

[00:45:16] It was so good like the whole match was great hard hitting it felt like a dusty flare match but kind of reversed a little bit because all this is bigger than Cody but. I mean yeah I mean you had.

[00:45:31] You had an orn Anderson come out you had DDP come out with him you had.

[00:45:38] All this all this had a hell of an entourage too that's why I mean it felt like a big fight it felt like the way they shot them coming to the ring to was very reminiscent to like boxing.

[00:45:48] You know everybody's got there and that's what I mean it all felt legit everybody who was there belonged like.

[00:45:55] It was fantastic and everybody was on the edge of their seat because everybody kind of had a feeling that Cody was going to win but they booked it just enough and Nick all this is a believable champion.

[00:46:06] So you're like I don't know maybe it was as close to being a real fight as it could be and that is when pro wrestling is perfect. When when you know when you you know when your brain.

[00:46:20] What's really going on but you don't care because you've let you turn your brain off you suspend your disbelief and what you're seeing is real for that moment.

[00:46:29] I mean it almost is I was you said like like in your head you know you know this is fake you know it's choreograph but then there's like that slight feeling of.

[00:46:39] Maybe because honestly again the brandy spot that please just booed him out of the building when he did that and this is hilarious because like two years later everyone would be like we hate brandy well they didn't hate it when that happened.

[00:46:56] And I never I never really dislike brandy sometimes what she was doing on TV I was just kind of like huh but I never hated her like. But yeah so obviously we saw Cody win and what was the match in the moment of the night.

[00:47:13] The story was there it was an homage it paid tribute to dusty without making it all about dusty it was very much about Cody.

[00:47:23] And yeah everybody won the NWA got more publicity because honestly before this match I didn't even know the NWA was I knew it was around but like I actually know I didn't know it was around I didn't know it was active. So just when when when for everybody.

[00:47:41] And yet we're still sitting here trying to see Cody finished the story we will we will. I'm kind of I wish they had gone more into this in the Cody documentary. And I understand it's a WWE production but it's still it's the NWA title. Like come on.

[00:48:02] How many how many WWE Hall of Famers were also in WA World Heavyweight Champions. At least half of them. Yeah right yeah that's it's all I'm saying. But anyway.

[00:48:16] Not to take away from it actually the next match was probably the best thing you could put after that match because it was so vastly different. Was we had a hardcore I don't remember what they called it. Oh it says a.

[00:48:31] Hakeem again I don't remember most of this all in but this was a stand an outstanding a stand out match oh yeah if you're not going to watch the entire show which I recommend you do Tony Khan you need to make this available you own it now before you didn't know that so I understood but now you won't make it available.

[00:48:48] Yeah I want I would love a commemorative like blue ray release I would buy it like do a limited release get a special thing you know. But come on release it.

[00:49:02] So we had hangman page and Joey Janella in what was essentially a no holds bar match honestly as somebody who doesn't love hardcore matches this was pretty good. Well I think it was a. As we're in the crack of barrel hardcore matches or something.

[00:49:18] Will it use they use the so I'll give credit regretted to the use the barrel.

[00:49:24] Yeah I think it was a cracker barrel hardcore match actually now that now that you say that they incorporated the ongoing being the elite storyline with Joey Ryan which in high at the time I found funny but in hindsight it was really stupid.

[00:49:39] Yeah I see no I'm like. Why yeah but I definitely popped for the barrel not gonna lie. But I will say even though the story was stupid they still incorporated it into the match in a way that for what they were doing it made sense.

[00:49:59] And we got to see many of us got to see our first look at Penelope forward. Yes we did. Yeah which honestly she impressed me then.

[00:50:09] I was like oh okay like I'd never seen her before but then when she showed up in a W was like okay yeah that drives I see that. The carrying a hang main page with all the penis is carrying them out. Who won this match?

[00:50:30] Hang man yeah hang man one but then. Yeah and again that's another moment where at the time. I thought it was hilarious watching it again I'm kind of like yeah. There's kids here. Yeah I kind of broke a little bit of boundaries a little bit.

[00:50:50] Yeah I don't know that having about a dozen or so inflatable penises mimicking the druids was really the way to go. Like the more I think about it it's starting to get funny to me again but it's like oh no don't get me wrong it's funny.

[00:51:07] But I don't know that it was I mean it certainly wasn't appropriate but. I don't know how many kids were there but there were kids there.

[00:51:17] It was like 98% 18 to 35 men which is hilarious because when I got there because I'd left work in drove to Chicago so by the time I got there I was hungry as hell but I stopped it. There's a little like strip mall.

[00:51:33] Right outside that arena and it's just like a sea of black bullet club T shirts and various forms. Didn't you go to you with this one? No not to all in. I think.

[00:51:46] I thought you went to I thought you went to it also but he went with somebody else. Was he at all in? I can't remember he didn't go with me. I think that's what happened. I think he was somebody else and you went also.

[00:52:01] Maybe I think the first time I knew that he and I were at the same show in different places was an A W show and then the next year we went to an A W show together but. No you know what?

[00:52:14] I think he wasn't all in but I didn't find that out until way after. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah I think you're right yeah yeah. But yeah so that moment didn't age particularly well especially after what? Joey Ryan's entire gimmick didn't age well because of what came out.

[00:52:30] Now he works at Disney World. Does he really? Last I heard is Disney World or Disneyland? Hang on. The last I knew that's where he was working. Oh man. I'm about 90% sure he I pre-sure was him. That was working at Disney World or Disneyland at one point.

[00:52:54] Hang on. I'm gonna look this up. Bear with me folks. Oh. Oh. This is bad. In March 2021 a poster for an event called Wrestling For Women charity circulated online featuring Ryan and several other wrestlers. It was subsequently revealed that Ryan's bar wrestling was involved with promoting the event.

[00:53:32] All Elite Wrestling promoter Tony Constade that he would not allow A W talent to appear for Ryan was involved. A Twitter account for the event stated that fight TV would be airing this show however the organization set on Twitter that they were not carrying the event.

[00:53:45] It subsequently issued an apology canceled the event and deleted the account. Ryan denied that he was quote trying to come back to wrestling and said he had been asked to quote, Russell a good friend as a way to go out and gain some closure. Oh.

[00:54:00] I'm trying to see what he's doing. But a little update on our our forbidden door that we created a few months ago. Did we have to rebook that. Yeah, we are. But good thing I didn't get too far into it, but now I have a desktop. Who?

[00:54:21] And now I can record it through OBS that way. Oh, perfect. I don't know if he works at Disney now. We need to internet. I need your help because I don't want to waste time because I know I don't know what time you have to go. But.

[00:54:38] 50 so I got about 10 15 minutes. Okay, now we can finish this so we'll move on. The next match. I don't have much to say about flip Gordon faces Jay lethal for the R.O. Which I don't. Jay lethal. I was going to say except it's not Jay lethal.

[00:54:54] It's black machismo. Bright favorite wrestler of all time. Yeah. I like black machismo, but this was a championship match. Okay, one thing I didn't like about it is how it would had to be. So in the promo before we're we've got the black machismo.

[00:55:15] They tapped on the shoulder and handed in the glasses and that's how he turned into it. Okay, so this so the thing of it. You start real quick. They were they were doing a lot of these storylines on being the elite.

[00:55:29] They'd been doing that to Jay lethal for a few months. So it was a thing but only if you were watching being the elite people would tap them on the screen.

[00:55:35] And then you can see people would tap them on the shoulder and he'd turn in the black when she's mo and to turn it off. You'd have to tap him on the shoulder again.

[00:55:44] Okay, so they did it during the match but he was still acting like black machismo. Yeah, no, it it was dumb. And I actually said it this on paper should have been a great match but because they had to do the funny crap. It turned it into a.

[00:56:06] It wasn't a bad match. It wasn't a bad match but it could have been better if it would it had been played straight. Get out of here. You get out of here. Brother, I'll just watch my wave in the working clock in.

[00:56:23] But anyway, so Jay lethal wins the match and retain the ring of honor title. I got a lot of notes for the next match.

[00:56:34] So a brief theorem we saw Pentagon Jr versus Kenny Omega, which at the time was a dream match that we never thought was going to happen. Okay, watching that match yesterday and seeing Kenny Omega and that was my first like experience to Kenny Omega and Pentagon Junior.

[00:56:50] Well, not so much Pentagon Junior because I'd seen him a couple of times in Luchon of Rout. In my opinion, when I first seen Kenny Omega, it reminded me of a mid 90s for Blades where he wore the tights.

[00:57:08] Yeah, he was wearing those like leather pants for a while in New Japan. Yeah, and I'm like, is that triple H? I don't I don't double think a couple of times. So anyway, my notes pent up felt so much cooler back.

[00:57:27] Kenny was so much cooler in 2018 because I don't know. Well, back when New Japan told him what to say, at least to a certain extent. And I said, I just remember when this seemed impossible and now we're sick of it.

[00:57:46] Yeah, because at one point it was like every week we've seen him rest on each other for a W. And then I said, is it just me or has Kenny lost a step and we actually recently found out that he kind of did because he had.

[00:58:01] I don't what what is his injury? What's his deal? Because I saw that he was in the hospital. I'm not sure. I knew you was having back issues. Yeah, so I don't know if it came out of like what was wrong or why was in the hospital?

[00:58:15] Because like, I knew he and it was him. And the last thing I'd seen before in the hospital, it was a promo in the ring.

[00:58:22] It was him in a Chris Jericho. And it was a big bill and Ricky starts and Kenny was talking about big bill being soft. And saying that Ricky starts was a rundown version of Inzo Moray.

[00:58:47] Oh, God. So yes, since the time I made this note now, Kenny hasn't fact lost a step. Hopefully he gets it back because I just man. I remember Kenny 2016 to 2018. I mean, I mean, I'll be frank. Nobody was better.

[00:59:04] Yeah, I mean, this once in a generation talent. And he's still good, but it just seems like he lost a step. I hope he gets it back and the fact if it is his back, that explains a lot.

[00:59:18] Well, this match was a tie from match the night for me to be honest as far as in ring. Let's see. This is the weirdest thing especially considering who's in the match. They actually try to keep it in the ring.

[00:59:30] They did. They do some outside stuff, but I mean, for the most part, they're trying to keep it in the ring. And I love, love, love, love, love that pentagon blocked the Terminator dive.

[00:59:42] I was like, oh my God, it's like somebody realized, wait, he's hitting the rubs and running towards me. I should probably stop that. Or move like Smojo does. Yeah, no right.

[00:59:53] Which it's funny because a lot of people find that move funny. I actually find it annoying. It's like, okay, I understand why he does it.

[01:00:03] But you would think that people would learn to stop doing it if you can just take two steps and walk out of the way.

[01:00:13] That's where it kind of like, it really runs a line of like, you could just move out of the way on a dive. Why do you gotta stay in there? So it's like, what do you do?

[01:00:26] Well, and then the guy in AEW who did this on his way down, everybody's playing it for laughs. I'm like, don't ever book him again. You just you killed it because now it's a joke even when it comes to Smojo.

[01:00:48] One of your most legitimate wrestlers on your roster is now part of the joke anyway. Kenny was phenomenal at that time. I didn't think anyone was better because they weren't.

[01:01:02] But the bumps he took. I said, I don't think he would be at the level for too much longer. Yeah, that that makes sense and that yeah it was when he when he had to leave AEW for a bit when he was off. It was because those lingering injuries were getting dealt with but apparently there was a little bit more but

[01:01:21] Kenny wins the match, but then we got this definitely the surprise in the night. Which you okay so I have to we have to go back in time again. So this was out in Jericho left WWE because he was tired of doing the same old thing.

[01:01:35] Now he had said for years and years and years that he wouldn't wrestle for anybody except Vince McMahon, but then he gets offered new Japan and he said, well it's Japan and he even

[01:01:45] Not asked for mission but he he cleared it with McMahon say like hey no hard feelings right you said yeah go make money in Japan.

[01:01:52] But he repeatedly said he would never ever wrestle for anyone but Vince McMahon in the United States I think even in North America, I think he said. So for Jericho to actually show up he did not wrestle. Yeah I'd about say he didn't technically wrestle at that point.

[01:02:08] No but he even I think he'd even gone so far to say he wouldn't appear on television for anybody else. I can't remember but and actually they do a really good job of the disguise because I noticed the tattoo, but I mean the outfit looked basically the same.

[01:02:23] So it wasn't immediately clear until you started kind of looking that it wasn't pentagon like they did a decent job of but Chris Jericho was there to Help sell his crews which he had a match with Kenny Omega at that place exploded.

[01:02:40] Nobody could believe what we saw we could not believe that Chris Jericho was actually there. Yeah and I didn't realize that's how it started at first so he was definitely fired for me. And then he did the code breaker I'm like oh my god it is Chris Jericho.

[01:02:55] But yeah so that was definitely the surprise in the night. The next match I didn't like it at the time and now I especially didn't like it.

[01:03:04] Marty squirrel versus Okada the backstory with this is Marty squirrel was a junior heavyweight in New Japan which New Japan actually has strict weight classes. So the whole bit was in order to face Okada at all and he would have to get up to 205 pounds.

[01:03:20] So there do in skits where he was like eating donuts and you know just trying to gain weight. And Okada was essentially bullying him. The backstage bit was dumb but Marty squirrel did have a great entrance back in the day. Everybody did it. Woo, woo!

[01:03:41] It was very good back in the day. I like the play the play doctors mask. Yeah yeah yeah yeah love it love it that was part of the end and with the umbrella and it all made sense.

[01:03:54] I will say Marty squirrel didn't really do anything for me until he joined Bullet Club. But hey that's what Bullet Club was doing back in the day. It was elevating people that were good but just needed that push of recognition.

[01:04:09] No back like back in the day like I knew Marty's Marty squirrel before then. Yeah party Marty. Yeah so I would have loved to see them in NXT at the time. What that gimmick. Yeah you know what a party Marty would have worked in NXT.

[01:04:25] I'm talking about what the play doctors mask and stuff. Oh the villain. Yeah I would see this is the thing. I liked Marty squirrel and Marty squirrel was doing the sort of straight man wrestler bit before.

[01:04:40] A lot of other people were doing it like it was before Tyler Bade it was before Pete Don. At least in that I'd seen they might have been doing. I think that was the resurgence of that UK strong style now that I think about it. But it worked.

[01:04:53] It worked. It was a great content. That's why it was so great in New Japan because this was a guy who just he didn't do flips. He just didn't he could. But he just didn't. Instead he just break your finger.

[01:05:05] Which this was when Ocada was going through his pants face. And we're glad that ended. Ocada's a trunks guy just it was weird. It was one of the weakest matches but at least I had some build up.

[01:05:24] And I always like I said I always liked that Marty squirrel didn't do flips. I will say this match was too long and. I love the Pete Don finger spots. I hate the Marty squirrel finger spots because. It doesn't make any sense.

[01:05:43] Because all he does he breaks your fingers and then everybody acts like they have fully functional swingers and plus it's a really easy thing to go to people's fingers and then you slam your palms together. So. Ha ha it's easy it's not good.

[01:05:55] But at least it was different. I love doing that spot dang it. Do you do that spot? I do that. Oh so did I just did I just ruin the magic for everyone? Sorry. You actually break their fingers though. Yeah, I do it. Okay. Yeah. So I can't.

[01:06:19] The keymats shocked it was Chris and he forgot all about Marty. I kind of forgot all about Marty. I'm like, oh yeah, Marty. Cool. But yeah this match was way too long. And I think it was actually the reason the main event got cut short.

[01:06:30] So I believe Marty squirrel. I can't be mad at Ocada because he's amazing but. So then we are with nine minutes to spare first. I have to tell you about our sponsor. It's really annoying when things get cut short, especially your.

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[01:08:46] Anyhow, onto the main event, the young bucks and Kota Ibushi, making up the golden league versus Race, Phoenix and Mysterio. See what I did there. And Bandito, which is actually the first time I'd ever seen Bandito and I was impressed. Let's see my notes.

[01:09:11] First, I can't read my handwriting. Oh, the first, yeah, the first lower third with the name. Names of people were what was wrong because it said, Ray Mysterio but Ray Phoenix came out. I did, I didn't see that enough thought that was interesting. I really liked Ray's gear.

[01:09:32] I think we're in gear? Yeah, but it was too small for us. This is a little tight. I mean, it was tight, but I think I really liked the shoulder pad work on it. I did like the shoulder pads. That was sick.

[01:09:45] I did like the shoulder pads, but that was a little tight. Well, the little pad. Now this match was cut short. The bucks even made a joke about it after the paper view went off air. Actually said, boy, we had to beat those guys really fast.

[01:09:58] Because we were almost at a time. And that's kind of my issue with what I liked about the young bucks before. And now I really dislike about them as how they have to make a joke out of everything. See, before they didn't make a joke out of everything.

[01:10:14] They could be funny, but when it was time to be serious, they were serious. Yeah. Like you said, like they do that stuff now. So they tried to make a joke out of everything. Out of everything though. When you're a, like,

[01:10:30] What producers or what are they executive by presidents producers? Yeah. And the rest was like, at this point, you should just, in my opinion, and it's good to time like a date. Screw the fuck up. Screw up. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.

[01:10:51] And the thing of it is in the early days of a W, they had great rivalries. That whole, which I thought this was so dumb at the time when they first did it when Hangman page and Kenny Omega were a tag team. Oh my god.

[01:11:01] They're matched with the bucks when they won the titles. This is one of my favorite matches of all time. Hey, here's one of my things. And this is a little bit like a W now. And in my opinion, like, because a W's been in like,

[01:11:16] they've had some good things, but they're still kind of like a downwards fire on away. And I think that's a good opinion. They're definitely not what it was two years ago, not even close.

[01:11:27] In my opinion, Kenny and I will talk to these of the takes six months away from doing anything in ring. I agree. Focus straight on the producing executive, executive stuff and get them back on track. Well, and not only that, they need a legit, they need a booker.

[01:11:46] Somebody who actually just knows how to do that. Or I never thought it said maybe they need a writing team. It makes you want the room. They need a booking team is what they need. And oh my god, you've got, let's see, you've got Arne Anderson.

[01:12:07] You've got access to Tony Blanchard. You've got Jake Roberts who I'm sorry if anybody needs promo help. He had to Jake to snake on speed dial. Like, come on, you got Dustin Rhodes. You have all the Christopher Daniels.

[01:12:27] Frankie Causarian people with 20 plus minimum of 20 years experience plus some. You've got people who have been wrestling longer than some of the wrestlers have been alive. And they're all already there.

[01:12:41] There's a he came say I watched Ram Page to follow sleep, but wouldn't mind an all natural product like Tony and G.C. Yeah, I totally agree they have so much talent, but not using a right.

[01:12:53] And that's why it's so frustrating try to be in a W fan because you know it's like you've got all the ingredients to make the perfect cake. But it still comes out not cake.

[01:13:05] And you don't understand why because you follow all the instructions and you have all the right ingredients, but the oven doesn't work properly. It's not cooking right. But anyway, I've got good show.

[01:13:18] I already said the paper view audio doesn't do it justice, but yeah, if you haven't watched all in, I highly recommend that you do. It may or may not actually, I don't think it's available on YouTube anymore.

[01:13:28] I think I, I think I downloaded it at the perfect time. Yeah, so they're they're nipping that because I actually uploaded it privately so that I could share it with you and they blocked it as a privately to.

[01:13:43] Yeah, copy right block you know so you and I may very well have the only copy of all in and here's the thing I don't condone piracy but it's not available Tony, make it available I'll buy it.

[01:13:58] Yeah, I will give you my money to get a copy of it. But I've got to go with him. I'm going to share my last thoughts and then I will talk to you guys in two weeks. All around, I like to show.

[01:14:13] Yeah, it's it brought me to a lot of new people. Like people that I see now that I see men like I wish I could have seen it then so I could have watched him grow from what it was there to now.

[01:14:26] It was in my opinion the WrestleMania of Andy show hands down and I don't for me and I'm a bit biased here but when I when I was there I went because I knew it was going to be history and I wanted to be there live for it and I'm so so so so so glad I was because I will never forget it I still have my ticket.

[01:14:52] And it's not frame now but I'm going to frame it because I was I was like I was on cloud nine and I was just so happy that I was able to be there and I wouldn't have traded it for really much of anything so.

[01:15:06] It's a but I'm happy with you guys. Oh yeah, you gotta go. I'll see you guys in two weeks. Alrighty, well lead us out real quick. Thank you for watching down the middle.

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