Part of your broadway world podcast (S3EP13)|Behind the Curtain with Stephanie Rosenberg

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[00:00:20] Welcome to the Part of your broadway world

[00:01:01] I'm gonna warn you guys, we're talking about Wicked the movie, musical, and Wicked the musical and the book

[00:01:09] A lot of Wicked, and just a fair warning I might cry a lot because I just saw it a couple hours ago and I'm still kind of crying

[00:01:17] Oh my god, I'm crying right now

[00:01:20] So just so I understand, Hayley's definitely seen the movie. Jake, have you seen the movie?

[00:01:25] I did, I saw it last night

[00:01:27] I have not seen the movie and I have not seen the movie, and you've both seen the musical

[00:01:31] Yes

[00:01:32] But Hayley has not read the book but Jake has read the book

[00:01:35] I have read the book

[00:01:36] Okay, so as the person who has done none of this, I like to take a stab guessing what this is about

[00:01:43] Based on cultural osmosis, having watched the trailer, and a quick five second read of the Wikipedia article I did five years ago

[00:01:51] So okay, so there's Glenda the Good Witch, and then there's the Wicked Witch of the West

[00:02:00] And they go to a high school, and initially they're not friends, but then they become friends

[00:02:07] And there's a bit of latent sexual tension between the two of them, you think they might be in love with each other

[00:02:14] And then the second act is she goes off and she does a Wizard of Oz

[00:02:19] And the whole thing is, you think she's the bad guy, but she's not the bad guy

[00:02:24] And maybe the green skin is a metaphor for racism

[00:02:27] Did I pretty much get it?

[00:02:31] Yes and no

[00:02:32] It depends on what part

[00:02:34] I wasn't expecting a yes

[00:02:36] I was expecting a full word out

[00:02:37] I was gonna say the same thing, yes and no

[00:02:38] It depends on what you're talking about

[00:02:40] The green skin, I'm not gonna say full blown racism, but persecution

[00:02:47] Because there's her green skin and then plus, well I wouldn't even say persecution

[00:02:50] More like ostrac, what's the word? Ostracizing

[00:02:56] Yeah that one

[00:02:59] Interesting

[00:03:00] The animals would be like racism

[00:03:05] Interesting, and they are not in the movie right?

[00:03:09] No they are, I was surprised

[00:03:11] They're in every, well they kinda have to be for that story though

[00:03:16] Because they're in the book, they're in the stage play

[00:03:19] They are in the movie more than the stage play, which I actually liked for the most part

[00:03:25] Yep

[00:03:25] So, my question about the movie is, and we have brought this up many times

[00:03:30] How does it wind up being 2 hours and 40 minutes when the main musical is only 2 hours, 2 hours 25?

[00:03:37] Because there's more like backstory and detail

[00:03:42] That, that, that

[00:03:44] Does it service it?

[00:03:45] It services it

[00:03:46] Most of it

[00:03:48] I will say this, I will say this

[00:03:50] Um, I will say this

[00:03:53] I, and I told my mother this when we got home

[00:03:56] I was like, shameless plug and you know, hot take

[00:04:01] I liked the movie a lot more than I liked the musical

[00:04:07] Really?

[00:04:08] Because the musical has a lot of plot holes that, that the movie filled

[00:04:14] Well the movie's got a fair amount but

[00:04:17] Hmm

[00:04:19] Okay

[00:04:20] Uh, if you would, share

[00:04:22] Like we know, like, like, in the movie

[00:04:24] We know a lot more about Elphaba's childhood

[00:04:28] True, yeah

[00:04:29] There are, there are a couple of additional scenes that flesh that out

[00:04:33] Yeah

[00:04:34] Yeah, that's a good point

[00:04:36] Um

[00:04:39] Yeah

[00:04:39] I don't know that I call that a plot hole

[00:04:41] But yeah, I think

[00:04:43] The movie has to be careful because

[00:04:47] I, I say this whenever we're talking about movies or television

[00:04:50] Is even when you're talking about a well-established IP

[00:04:54] When you're creating the story

[00:04:56] You still have to assume that your viewer has never seen the source material that you're talking about

[00:05:02] So, and I think, I think this movie did a fantastic job of that because

[00:05:07] Hmm, 70% of the people in the theater that I went to were clearly fans of the musical

[00:05:11] But, like, for example, I took my girlfriend with me

[00:05:15] She's, she's never seen The Wizard of Oz

[00:05:17] So she had no

[00:05:19] She hasn't, well, she's not from the United States

[00:05:21] So, but, um

[00:05:23] But, I mean

[00:05:24] You want to talk about confused

[00:05:27] Even, but even she liked it

[00:05:29] She's like

[00:05:31] Why do the monkeys have wings?

[00:05:32] I'm like, it's, it's a thing

[00:05:33] It's a thing

[00:05:36] It's a thing

[00:05:36] Which is really

[00:05:38] That's very surreal

[00:05:39] Because we've, we all saw The Wizard of Oz when we were children, I presume

[00:05:43] Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah

[00:05:44] So blue flying monkeys

[00:05:46] Yeah, so, but I mean the first time

[00:05:48] So, like, the blue flying monkeys are not a weird thing for us

[00:05:51] We, we get that reference, as Captain America would say

[00:05:54] Yeah

[00:05:54] About the same movie, too

[00:05:55] But for somebody who's never seen The Wizard of Oz

[00:05:58] That's way out of left field

[00:06:02] Way out of left field

[00:06:04] Interesting

[00:06:05] My, my thing, I will say

[00:06:07] I did, I did sneak a peek

[00:06:09] I mean, the one, I joke, the one song I know from this play is Defying Gravity

[00:06:13] So I needed to see how Defying Gravity was staged

[00:06:16] And like, my goodness

[00:06:18] Spoiler alert, I guess

[00:06:19] But, my goodness

[00:06:21] I make fun of Dear Evan Hansen for doing nothing with its staging

[00:06:24] My God, the staging of that, of that number

[00:06:26] I'm like, this is what musicals need to be

[00:06:28] Like, the effort

[00:06:29] The effort that has gone into, into making this look exciting and dynamic and interesting

[00:06:33] And like, this is what the movie musical

[00:06:35] This is using the medium of film to, to be interesting

[00:06:39] Like, I watched The Producers

[00:06:41] And that movie just does nothing with the medium of film

[00:06:44] And I'm like, oh, this is like, yeah

[00:06:45] This is what musicals should be

[00:06:47] Make more of this, please

[00:06:49] I've never seen The Producers, by the way

[00:06:51] Oh really? That surprises me

[00:06:53] Also, it's very obvious that you don't enjoy the Guten Tag Hop Club

[00:06:58] Actually, no, I did quite

[00:07:00] Will Ferrell as the German was weird

[00:07:03] It was funny

[00:07:04] That movie though, it was one of those things where I'm like

[00:07:06] I feel like if I understood Broadway better

[00:07:09] I would, I would maybe appreciate the sport

[00:07:11] I'm making so much hate for saying that

[00:07:14] Well, did you know who's the producers?

[00:07:16] I mean, no, I hadn't until this week

[00:07:18] So that's completely fair

[00:07:19] Yeah, no, it's not

[00:07:21] I had a thought and it's gone now

[00:07:24] Oh, so no

[00:07:27] Okay, so I want to preface this with

[00:07:29] Anything that I say critical of this movie is nitpicky

[00:07:32] Because overall, it was incredible

[00:07:33] It was very well done

[00:07:36] So anything negative I have to say is real nitpicky

[00:07:39] Where it's like, if I were putting charges

[00:07:41] That's how I would do it

[00:07:42] But I don't think

[00:07:43] There's only like one or two things

[00:07:45] That I actually think affected the film as a whole

[00:07:47] In a negative way

[00:07:48] But again, they're very minor

[00:07:49] The staging of Defying Gravity

[00:07:51] I would have changed a little bit

[00:07:53] Because there, Haley, you know

[00:07:55] When the song is kind of coming into its climax

[00:07:58] There is a break in the vocals

[00:08:00] But there's not a break in the music

[00:08:01] And the music crescendos up

[00:08:04] In the movie

[00:08:06] There's a break and then action

[00:08:08] Which kind of cuts the song out

[00:08:10] It cuts the legs out from under the song

[00:08:13] Oh, you're talking about the bit

[00:08:14] Where she's singing

[00:08:15] And then she all of a sudden

[00:08:17] Sweeps over on the broom

[00:08:19] No, it's when she goes around flying

[00:08:21] Right before she goes

[00:08:22] And then she goes

[00:08:24] Yeah, I know exactly what you mean

[00:08:26] Where it makes that break in the

[00:08:27] In the flow of the song

[00:08:30] I mean, it just stops it

[00:08:32] Because it actually goes into a completely different musical theme

[00:08:35] Which

[00:08:37] I understand why you would do

[00:08:39] If that's the choice you want to make

[00:08:40] Right?

[00:08:41] But

[00:08:41] Because frankly, the music of that part of Defying Gravity

[00:08:44] Is not long enough

[00:08:45] But it just

[00:08:46] That kind of a song

[00:08:48] And I will say

[00:08:49] If you've never heard that song before

[00:08:51] You wouldn't notice it

[00:08:52] And it wouldn't bother you

[00:08:53] But if you love that song

[00:08:55] Like I do

[00:08:56] I was just like

[00:08:58] My thing

[00:08:59] I noticed it too, but it didn't bother me

[00:09:01] But like I said

[00:09:02] It's not a huge deal

[00:09:04] Because the shot was

[00:09:05] I mean, the sequence is

[00:09:06] Uh oh

[00:09:07] It does what it's supposed to do

[00:09:09] I'm just

[00:09:10] I didn't love how it cut

[00:09:12] The most iconic song from the musical

[00:09:14] Out at the knees

[00:09:16] And then you have to

[00:09:17] Granted, it's real easy to restart

[00:09:18] Because it starts on a crescendo, right?

[00:09:20] But

[00:09:22] Having heard it only like once

[00:09:24] Very briefly

[00:09:25] I will say that I like it when

[00:09:27] When a movie version is more orchestral

[00:09:30] Like it sounds more epic and sweeping

[00:09:32] And it definitely had that vibe to me

[00:09:34] Me and Jordan today

[00:09:35] We talked about

[00:09:36] Les Mis

[00:09:38] The movie

[00:09:39] And the big thing with that

[00:09:40] We were like the rhythm

[00:09:41] And the pacing of all the songs

[00:09:42] Is off

[00:09:43] And it makes those songs sound good

[00:09:45] It's not

[00:09:46] I applaud

[00:09:47] The film version of Les Mis

[00:09:49] For attempting to do what they did

[00:09:50] But it didn't

[00:09:51] It didn't work

[00:09:52] So I'm like at least it sounds like Define Gravity

[00:09:54] Like

[00:09:56] Fair

[00:09:56] Fair

[00:09:57] Fair

[00:09:58] That actually to me

[00:09:59] And to my next point

[00:10:01] Was like the

[00:10:03] Movie itself

[00:10:04] It does an incredible job of

[00:10:09] Attempting

[00:10:10] What's really hard

[00:10:11] It's like singing live

[00:10:13] It's live singing

[00:10:15] Is it live singing?

[00:10:17] Yeah, they

[00:10:17] They live sung the whole movie

[00:10:19] Wow!

[00:10:20] Yeah.

[00:10:21] Okay, never mind

[00:10:23] Bravo

[00:10:23] Because they

[00:10:24] So they did successfully what Les Mis tried to do

[00:10:27] Yeah, yeah, absolutely

[00:10:28] Yeah

[00:10:29] Wow

[00:10:30] But Les Mis

[00:10:31] It sounds very good

[00:10:32] Les Mis was trying to like turn song

[00:10:34] A musical that was an opera

[00:10:36] And turn it into dialogue

[00:10:38] Yeah

[00:10:38] Which I think is why

[00:10:39] Whereas this has dialogue

[00:10:41] So they can have those

[00:10:42] Those diegetic or non-diegetic musical moments

[00:10:45] And sing it live

[00:10:47] And yeah

[00:10:47] Yeah, it becomes more

[00:10:49] I guess of a

[00:10:50] It's not trying to be a

[00:10:52] Historical epic

[00:10:53] I guess

[00:10:54] Like Les Mis wants to be

[00:10:56] I think maybe

[00:10:56] Not that we should compare Wicked to Les Mis

[00:10:59] But

[00:10:59] Well I mean yes and no

[00:11:01] There's similar elements, right?

[00:11:03] But

[00:11:03] In an interview

[00:11:04] Like they said

[00:11:06] Like we had to

[00:11:07] We had to

[00:11:08] Live sing it

[00:11:09] Because that's the only way

[00:11:11] We were going to do it

[00:11:12] We decided

[00:11:13] Like that's the only way

[00:11:14] We are going to do it

[00:11:15] Because

[00:11:16] It's

[00:11:16] It's Wicked

[00:11:18] Yeah

[00:11:18] It makes the music

[00:11:20] Sound

[00:11:21] More authentic

[00:11:22] Like it allows you to act better

[00:11:24] And also

[00:11:24] That's impressive considering

[00:11:26] They're not Broadway

[00:11:27] Like they're not those kind of performers

[00:11:29] Yeah, they are

[00:11:30] I was gonna say yeah

[00:11:31] I believe they are

[00:11:31] You'd have to be

[00:11:32] To sing those parts

[00:11:33] Yep

[00:11:34] Is Ariana Grande

[00:11:35] She's been on Broadway before

[00:11:38] Really?

[00:11:39] When she was a kid

[00:11:40] She was on 13 on Broadway

[00:11:42] Oh okay

[00:11:43] Yeah, well

[00:11:43] And I will say this much

[00:11:44] So

[00:11:46] Fair enough?

[00:11:47] I had two major concerns

[00:11:49] When I

[00:11:51] Realized that this

[00:11:52] This was real

[00:11:53] And they were making it

[00:11:54] Haley you can correct me

[00:11:55] Cause I just

[00:11:56] I had just never heard of her before

[00:11:57] The actress that plays Elphaba?

[00:12:00] Cynthia Erivo

[00:12:01] Cynthia Erivo

[00:12:01] She was in the color

[00:12:02] She was in the color purple on Broadway

[00:12:05] Oh okay

[00:12:05] Gotcha, gotcha

[00:12:06] I wasn't worried about her singing ability

[00:12:08] Because I even said in the trailer

[00:12:09] Which is really funny

[00:12:10] Because the version of Defying Gravity

[00:12:12] That was in the trailer

[00:12:13] Is not what was in the film

[00:12:16] I don't know why they put that version in the trailer

[00:12:18] Because it was significantly not as good

[00:12:21] As what was in the movie

[00:12:23] Right

[00:12:25] I'm like

[00:12:26] So I had concerns

[00:12:27] That was my idea

[00:12:28] That was my idea

[00:12:29] Yeah, I had concerns about that

[00:12:31] Because the first time I saw the trailer

[00:12:32] I was like oh

[00:12:33] Like again

[00:12:34] And not saying she's a bad singer

[00:12:36] But that's a very

[00:12:39] Difficult song

[00:12:40] To sing

[00:12:42] And so I was kind of like

[00:12:43] Oh, I don't

[00:12:44] Oh, I wouldn't have led with that

[00:12:46] And then also when the whole controversy broke out

[00:12:50] I'll be honest

[00:12:51] And I still think the actress is

[00:12:53] I mean I'll just say it

[00:12:54] She comes across as kind of a bitch to me

[00:12:56] And I was afraid that

[00:12:58] That would affect the portrayal of the character

[00:13:00] I will say this much

[00:13:01] She can act

[00:13:02] If nothing else she can act

[00:13:03] Because Elphaba was played

[00:13:07] I mean she played Elphaba

[00:13:09] I mean it was great

[00:13:10] And she had emotional range

[00:13:11] She had depth

[00:13:12] Everybody had depth

[00:13:13] That being said

[00:13:15] And then the other concern I had

[00:13:16] Was that they were going to overproduce it

[00:13:18] Which there were moments

[00:13:20] Where they kind of just couldn't help themselves

[00:13:23] Like the beginning with the flying monkey sequence

[00:13:26] I'm like do we need this?

[00:13:27] Because we don't really need to this

[00:13:29] We don't really need this

[00:13:32] And then the other one that

[00:13:33] This is probably my biggest nitpick

[00:13:35] Which is kind of a plot hole too

[00:13:37] Is when they go to the Oz Dust ballroom

[00:13:39] And all the musicians are animals

[00:13:43] That was a little weird

[00:13:45] That was weird and it was also after

[00:13:47] They had taken Dr. Tillman away

[00:13:48] Oh no wait that was before

[00:13:50] That was before

[00:13:51] That was before

[00:13:52] Oh okay okay okay okay nevermind

[00:13:53] So

[00:13:55] Okay so nitpick aside I'm sorry

[00:13:56] I was getting that mixed up in my head

[00:13:58] Yeah that was what we were for

[00:13:59] Yeah it was weird to me

[00:14:00] I was like this

[00:14:01] I mean like it's

[00:14:03] But I don't think it's really necessary

[00:14:05] It was funny though

[00:14:07] Yeah it's one of those things

[00:14:08] Which that's me as a

[00:14:12] Producer I'm real budget conscious

[00:14:14] So I'm like hey

[00:14:16] Why don't we save 400 grand

[00:14:18] And use it somewhere else

[00:14:21] Or I don't know

[00:14:23] Or I don't know

[00:14:24] Just not spend half a million dollars

[00:14:26] On an animated chipmunk you know

[00:14:29] Just me

[00:14:30] But that being said

[00:14:31] I wasn't the director

[00:14:32] And it wasn't so bad that it took away

[00:14:37] How's the pacing

[00:14:39] Considering it's nearly three hours long

[00:14:41] I didn't realize it was three hours

[00:14:43] Me neither

[00:14:44] Really

[00:14:44] I

[00:14:46] Like it ended

[00:14:47] And I looked at the clock

[00:14:48] I was like

[00:14:49] Really?

[00:14:50] It's already over?

[00:14:51] Did you like the bait

[00:14:53] Did you like the bait and switch they did in the title card

[00:14:55] Yes

[00:14:56] And then the tiny little part one fades in

[00:14:58] Yes

[00:15:00] Okay I don't know if you noticed this

[00:15:03] Um

[00:15:04] The way that that looked

[00:15:06] Is the exact same way

[00:15:09] The Wizard of Oz

[00:15:11] Opening credit scene looks

[00:15:13] Mmhmm

[00:15:15] And that was a fun little Easter egg

[00:15:18] I just

[00:15:19] Yeah

[00:15:19] I just honestly can't believe this movie exists

[00:15:22] It's set in development hell

[00:15:24] I've seen

[00:15:25] I was saying this to Hayley earlier off

[00:15:27] Off camera

[00:15:28] But I was saying how

[00:15:29] In varying degrees

[00:15:31] I've seen a rumor

[00:15:33] Or story of a wicked movie

[00:15:34] Coming for like a decade

[00:15:36] It's been in development for two years

[00:15:39] Oh longer than that I think

[00:15:40] I think

[00:15:41] I was gonna say

[00:15:42] Somebody was probably sniffing around

[00:15:43] Once the Broadway show hit big

[00:15:45] Yeah I've seen various actors

[00:15:47] Directors

[00:15:48] Like coming in and out of the project

[00:15:51] Well and then you also have to remember

[00:15:53] That we were whispering about a wicked movie

[00:15:55] Being based more on the book

[00:15:56] Around the time Oz the Great and Powerful came out

[00:15:59] Yeah

[00:15:59] And that movie shit the bed

[00:16:01] So they were probably

[00:16:02] Every studio was probably like

[00:16:03] Nope

[00:16:04] Dark Wizard of Oz doesn't work

[00:16:06] Yeah

[00:16:07] That was

[00:16:08] They wanted that one

[00:16:09] Yeah I think

[00:16:10] Because it was looking like

[00:16:11] Disney might produce this

[00:16:13] I think at one point

[00:16:13] They were talking about it

[00:16:15] And I will say this

[00:16:17] Like we've been

[00:16:18] Us theater fans

[00:16:20] And theater kids

[00:16:21] Have been waiting for this movie

[00:16:23] For like 20

[00:16:25] Something years

[00:16:27] How old is the musical?

[00:16:28] Because the musical is 21 years old

[00:16:31] Is it 20 years old?

[00:16:32] I was gonna say that was 2003 right?

[00:16:34] 2003 yeah

[00:16:35] Holy mackerel yeah

[00:16:36] It's over to

[00:16:36] Wow

[00:16:36] So we've been waiting for a very long time

[00:16:38] For a thing like this

[00:16:40] To happen

[00:16:42] Interesting

[00:16:43] I didn't realize it was that old

[00:16:44] You know we were saying it's

[00:16:46] Still running on Broadway right?

[00:16:48] Yep

[00:16:49] Yeah yeah

[00:16:49] And fun fact too

[00:16:51] And I just read about this

[00:16:53] Ticket sales have like

[00:16:55] Been booming ever since the movie came out

[00:16:57] Yeah

[00:16:58] Oh yeah

[00:16:58] It's gonna last why make a movie

[00:17:00] The book sales

[00:17:01] Like there's new printings of the book

[00:17:02] Like this is all

[00:17:03] The media machine's behind this for sure

[00:17:05] I mean

[00:17:06] My hope is that

[00:17:08] Hollywood learns from this

[00:17:09] And we get more musicals

[00:17:11] I want more good musicals though

[00:17:15] That's fair

[00:17:15] For me

[00:17:17] I'll think a bad musical

[00:17:18] I'm okay with

[00:17:21] Because those are fun to make fun of

[00:17:23] Well I'm glad it did well

[00:17:25] Because I was very disappointed

[00:17:26] With the performance of West Sidewalk

[00:17:27] Side Stories remake

[00:17:29] Because that film's a gem

[00:17:31] And virtually nobody

[00:17:33] I thought it was very good

[00:17:34] So I'm glad this one's gonna do well

[00:17:37] And

[00:17:39] Holy crap

[00:17:40] Ariana Grande

[00:17:41] is bringing it

[00:17:46] Ariana Grande

[00:17:47] I have to

[00:17:49] Just say this

[00:17:50] To the camera

[00:17:51] If

[00:17:52] I don't know if she's a watching list

[00:17:54] But if you are

[00:17:55] Thank you

[00:17:56] Oh okay I thought you were going negative

[00:17:58] I was about to be like

[00:17:59] Hey now

[00:18:02] I

[00:18:02] Because I don't know what you're talking about

[00:18:04] I have to take this to the camera

[00:18:05] Thank you so much

[00:18:07] To you

[00:18:08] And Cynthia both

[00:18:09] You took so

[00:18:11] Good

[00:18:11] So much good care

[00:18:13] Of my witches

[00:18:14] Like

[00:18:15] Thank you

[00:18:18] Speaking of witches

[00:18:19] Speaking of witches

[00:18:19] Oh go ahead

[00:18:19] Sorry

[00:18:20] People were so skeptical of her in particular going into this

[00:18:23] They were like

[00:18:23] Oh I never was

[00:18:24] She's not

[00:18:25] She's not Christina Chenoweth

[00:18:27] She's no Christina Chenoweth

[00:18:29] Christine Chenoweth you mean?

[00:18:30] Christine Chenoweth

[00:18:32] Damn it

[00:18:33] Well yeah but she's

[00:18:34] Kristen Chenoweth yeah

[00:18:36] She's like one of the few handfuls of people in Hollywood that can actually sing in a similar range

[00:18:40] Yeah

[00:18:41] So I was never worried

[00:18:42] She was OG Glenda

[00:18:43] She was OG Glenda

[00:18:44] Yeah I was

[00:18:45] Yeah I was never worried about Ariana Grande

[00:18:47] In fact when I saw that she was Glenda I was like oh okay we're good

[00:18:50] We're good

[00:18:51] Well fair enough

[00:18:51] Well not just that though but

[00:18:54] She's known

[00:18:56] Kristen Chenoweth since she was like 10

[00:18:59] Yeah

[00:18:59] Fair enough

[00:19:01] Yeah

[00:19:01] Oh speaking of

[00:19:03] Speaking of the OGs though

[00:19:05] How about that little Easter egg

[00:19:07] During one short day

[00:19:09] Oh my god

[00:19:11] Loved it

[00:19:12] Oh I think I know what

[00:19:14] What you're talking about

[00:19:15] Oh no I was in the theater

[00:19:16] I was like

[00:19:17] It's them

[00:19:17] It's them

[00:19:19] And I love the fact that she did that like

[00:19:23] Almost like

[00:19:23] Up above call

[00:19:26] Oh and then Christian Chenoweth

[00:19:27] Putting her hand over Ariana's mouth

[00:19:29] When she came

[00:19:32] I loved it

[00:19:33] And I'm glad it wasn't

[00:19:34] I'm glad it wasn't just a blink and you miss it moment

[00:19:36] Like they had a whole number

[00:19:37] They had a whole

[00:19:39] And Idina

[00:19:41] Especially

[00:19:42] Grinning ear to ear the whole time

[00:19:43] Because they both knew

[00:19:44] How

[00:19:46] To use parlance from pro wrestling

[00:19:48] They knew the pop they were gonna get in the movie theaters

[00:19:52] Oh for sure

[00:19:53] Like there were people gasping

[00:19:55] In my theater

[00:19:57] But speaking of that moment though

[00:19:58] Like all poor Ariana was trying to get out

[00:20:01] And it was saying

[00:20:02] And she's like nope

[00:20:04] Nope

[00:20:06] That was so nice

[00:20:07] That was so nice

[00:20:08] I'm loving it

[00:20:09] I'm loving a cameo from the original

[00:20:11] See

[00:20:11] I'm sorry

[00:20:12] What made me realize this more than ever

[00:20:14] I don't want to see original cast members come back

[00:20:17] And reprise roles from Broadway again

[00:20:19] I think giving them a fun cameo

[00:20:21] Like

[00:20:22] I mean it worked with

[00:20:23] It worked with this

[00:20:25] It worked

[00:20:26] It kind of worked with Der

[00:20:27] Well

[00:20:28] It kind of worked with Der

[00:20:29] No

[00:20:30] No

[00:20:31] I feel like it did

[00:20:33] Ghoulish old

[00:20:34] Way too old man

[00:20:36] Okay

[00:20:38] Greed to disagree

[00:20:39] Well that

[00:20:40] Well that was my only problem

[00:20:42] Was he was too old

[00:20:43] But his voice

[00:20:44] He's too old

[00:20:55] He's not

[00:20:56] He does it

[00:20:57] He does it

[00:20:57] No favors

[00:20:57] Like he just looks like a

[00:20:59] An adult man singing to a very teenage girl

[00:21:03] It's just

[00:21:05] But also

[00:21:06] Well this is going to make a fun short

[00:21:08] But also

[00:21:09] To the counterpoint

[00:21:12] Rent

[00:21:12] Which has all the original cast

[00:21:14] Is well received

[00:21:15] So

[00:21:16] It can go on

[00:21:17] Not all

[00:21:19] They had new actresses

[00:21:22] For Joanne

[00:21:22] And Mimi

[00:21:24] Oh okay fair enough

[00:21:25] I'm not a Rent fan

[00:21:26] I

[00:21:26] I just knew that

[00:21:27] I know that like a Dina Menzel

[00:21:28] Ah see I

[00:21:30] I'm keeping it related

[00:21:31] I know she came back

[00:21:32] And I know like Jesse All Martin came back

[00:21:33] And I think like most of the main cast came back I think

[00:21:36] Most of the main cast it was only Mimi and Joanne

[00:21:38] Yeah and apparently

[00:21:41] If you like Rent people like that movie so

[00:21:42] Oh no it was very good

[00:21:44] It was very good

[00:21:45] So just to gush on Ariana more

[00:21:47] Because not only was the singing on point

[00:21:49] She nailed the character

[00:21:51] She nailed it

[00:21:52] But like I said

[00:21:53] She nailed it

[00:21:53] But like I said she had

[00:21:55] Kristen Chenoweth

[00:21:56] Sure sure

[00:21:57] As her mentor

[00:21:58] Sure but you still have to be able to do it

[00:22:00] And I would like to point this out

[00:22:02] I'm sure everybody can relate to this

[00:22:05] But when I was leaving my theater

[00:22:07] At least half the girls at one point were doing the hair flip

[00:22:11] That's awesome

[00:22:12] And laughing

[00:22:13] And I was like this is tremendous

[00:22:16] There were so many

[00:22:18] You know what's funny though

[00:22:20] Is she

[00:22:22] Or you know

[00:22:23] I said in an interview

[00:22:24] That like

[00:22:25] She's like I had to go to the chiropractor

[00:22:27] After doing

[00:22:29] After the movie because

[00:22:30] Like of that

[00:22:32] There's a lot of weird body positioning she does

[00:22:34] Which again is a callback from the musical

[00:22:35] So it didn't come out of nowhere

[00:22:36] But there's so many little things

[00:22:39] In this movie that were just perfection

[00:22:41] Like did you notice too

[00:22:43] Fierro's dance movements

[00:22:45] Were extremely atypical

[00:22:47] And spoiler alert

[00:22:48] Fierro becomes the scarecrow

[00:22:50] And I realized about halfway through his first dance number

[00:22:52] I'm like oh

[00:22:53] He's moving like a scarecrow

[00:22:56] I get it now

[00:22:58] And then they gave

[00:23:00] They gave Bach a last name

[00:23:01] In this one

[00:23:03] And I was like that's a little on the nose

[00:23:05] Bach Woodsman

[00:23:06] My sister said something

[00:23:09] That kind of irked me a little bit

[00:23:11] She was like

[00:23:13] I don't really feel like

[00:23:17] Ethan Slater's Bach

[00:23:19] And Aria and I had like chemistry

[00:23:23] None

[00:23:23] No

[00:23:24] And

[00:23:25] So okay

[00:23:32] I got a couple of nitpicks

[00:23:34] And like I said these are very little nitpicks

[00:23:37] Um

[00:23:37] Where

[00:23:38] Where the fuck are all the munchkins

[00:23:40] In munchkin land

[00:23:41] Cause I saw a bunch of normal hype people

[00:23:46] Maybe it's

[00:23:48] Maybe

[00:23:48] What a munchkin

[00:23:50] Technically is

[00:23:52] I mean

[00:23:52] The Wizard of Oz

[00:23:53] Is different

[00:23:56] Cause even in the musical

[00:23:58] They're average hype people

[00:24:00] And why are they called munchkins?

[00:24:02] I don't know

[00:24:04] See I think the musical screw

[00:24:06] Which actually yeah

[00:24:07] Now that you mention that that is true

[00:24:09] Or that is accurate

[00:24:10] Cause it wasn't false

[00:24:11] But yeah they do

[00:24:12] That's weird

[00:24:14] Although they do make a

[00:24:15] Make it a point to show that Bach is at least a little bit shorter

[00:24:18] But

[00:24:19] Yeah so

[00:24:20] Cause he's a short guy

[00:24:21] To be honest

[00:24:23] Right but yeah

[00:24:24] No munchkins in munchkin land

[00:24:26] But that was retconned in the musical

[00:24:27] So you can't blame the movie for that

[00:24:29] Yeah

[00:24:30] Also who's the actor that played Fiero in this?

[00:24:34] Jonathan Bailey

[00:24:34] Who is in Bridgerton

[00:24:38] Um

[00:24:38] I gotta say

[00:24:39] Loved his spoken

[00:24:41] I loved his spoken portrayal of Fiero

[00:24:42] I loved him

[00:24:43] I did not love his singing

[00:24:45] I loved his singing

[00:24:47] Oh no okay

[00:24:47] I need to clarify

[00:24:48] His singing was

[00:24:50] There was nothing wrong with his singing

[00:24:51] But singing as Fiero

[00:24:55] It wasn't

[00:24:56] Like I said

[00:24:56] It wasn't bad

[00:24:57] Right?

[00:24:58] I'm not saying he did a horrible job

[00:25:00] It's just

[00:25:00] It was a little bit more reserved

[00:25:02] Than I would have

[00:25:03] Which it might have been an issue of direction too

[00:25:06] To me it came off a little bit more reserved

[00:25:08] Whereas that number is supposed to be this big like

[00:25:11] Which having it in a library was kinda weird

[00:25:13] But that's supposed to be a big fun number

[00:25:16] And it was really subdued

[00:25:18] Compared to what it's supposed to be

[00:25:20] But it is also too

[00:25:21] It's also supposed to go directly into the Oz Dust ballroom

[00:25:24] As opposed to the interlude they have

[00:25:26] I loved that scene

[00:25:28] I loved the fact when

[00:25:29] When they go like

[00:25:30] And they spin around in the book

[00:25:33] Wheel

[00:25:33] Oh I hated that

[00:25:34] I hated that so much

[00:25:36] I loved that

[00:25:36] I thought that was fun

[00:25:38] What's holding the books?

[00:25:40] Gravity's a thing

[00:25:42] Not in

[00:25:43] Not in

[00:25:44] Not in Oz magic

[00:25:45] Not in Oz

[00:25:48] This is

[00:25:49] Dustin

[00:25:50] My

[00:25:54] Overanalyzation hat is coming on

[00:25:56] It's like

[00:25:57] Okay let's even assume that you live in a place where you can manipulate gravity in that way

[00:26:01] Why?

[00:26:01] Why would you do it?

[00:26:02] Why would you go to the trouble?

[00:26:03] It just doesn't make sense

[00:26:05] It's odd

[00:26:07] It's odd

[00:26:08] Have you guys seen

[00:26:11] The Peter Pan

[00:26:13] Movie

[00:26:14] With Hugh Jackman in it?

[00:26:16] Where they sing Smells Like Teen Spirit?

[00:26:18] No

[00:26:19] Oh okay

[00:26:20] Me and Jordan hate that movie

[00:26:22] For the simple reason that

[00:26:25] There's a magic flying pirate ship because of Peter Pan

[00:26:28] And the explanation for why the pirate ship can fly

[00:26:31] Is just simply that

[00:26:32] It's a magic flying pirate ship

[00:26:34] So anytime

[00:26:37] Anytime anything ridiculous happens

[00:26:39] We go

[00:26:41] As you said shorthand

[00:26:42] We go magic flying pirate ship

[00:26:44] So in this context

[00:26:45] It sounds

[00:26:45] It's sort of like

[00:26:47] It's Oz

[00:26:47] Oz is ridiculous

[00:26:49] Magic not following books

[00:26:52] Magic not following books

[00:26:53] That's what I'm saying

[00:26:54] It's magic

[00:26:55] Or you see you don't watch the Simpsons

[00:26:57] But there's a

[00:26:57] Xena being like

[00:26:59] Anytime you have any questions like that

[00:27:01] A wizard did it

[00:27:04] Wizard

[00:27:06] Oh wizard did it

[00:27:07] Oh wizard did it

[00:27:09] So I'm curious

[00:27:11] How did you guys feel about Jeff Goldblum as the wizard?

[00:27:15] I loved it

[00:27:16] Really? I found it

[00:27:18] Found it quite flat

[00:27:19] Here's what I will say

[00:27:20] As someone who hasn't seen this

[00:27:21] I will give you two varied opinions

[00:27:23] I will say

[00:27:24] I love Jeff Goldblum in anything that man can do no wrong

[00:27:26] And it does feel out of place in this movie

[00:27:29] Based on the marketing

[00:27:30] That's a better

[00:27:31] That's a better way to put it

[00:27:32] It felt as though

[00:27:37] Because I love Jeff

[00:27:38] I like Jeff Goldblum too

[00:27:39] But as the wizard

[00:27:40] I just didn't think it was a

[00:27:42] Great fit

[00:27:42] Because for one thing

[00:27:43] He's far too old

[00:27:44] To be playing the wizard

[00:27:45] At this point in time

[00:27:47] Isn't the whole thing between

[00:27:49] The wizard and

[00:27:51] Elphaba

[00:27:51] Doesn't he like seduce her?

[00:27:53] Isn't that the whole thing?

[00:27:54] And then he turns out he's a dick

[00:27:56] Well he

[00:27:57] He doesn't seduce her romantically

[00:27:59] He kind of like tries to seduce her

[00:28:01] With a position of power

[00:28:03] To basically be his muscle

[00:28:04] So in a way

[00:28:07] She seduced

[00:28:08] She seduced the same way Anakin was seduced

[00:28:10] Like Palpatine didn't want to

[00:28:11] Palpatine didn't want to bone him

[00:28:13] He wanted him as an enforcer

[00:28:14] We'll see that in part 2 I think

[00:28:16] I was going to say

[00:28:17] He's the one who convinces the world

[00:28:18] That she's the wicked witch right?

[00:28:20] Oh yeah, yeah

[00:28:21] Master of propaganda

[00:28:22] Which actually that's more Madame Morrible

[00:28:24] Isn't it?

[00:28:25] Who

[00:28:26] I also didn't love that casting either

[00:28:28] Again, nothing wrong with the actress

[00:28:30] It's just that her portrayal I felt

[00:28:31] Was a

[00:28:32] So little flat

[00:28:33] Does the wizard sing?

[00:28:34] Does the wizard sing?

[00:28:36] He's supposed to but

[00:28:37] Does the wizard sing?

[00:28:39] He's saying

[00:28:40] He's saying

[00:28:41] He's saying

[00:28:41] He's saying

[00:28:44] He's saying

[00:28:46] He's saying

[00:28:47] Sentimental man

[00:28:48] So he sings that

[00:28:50] Yeah, but I

[00:28:51] I don't know that I would call that singing

[00:28:52] I would call that

[00:28:54] Humming with words

[00:28:55] Humming with words

[00:28:56] If that makes sense

[00:28:56] Well, it would style

[00:28:58] But musically speaking

[00:29:02] Yeah, actually

[00:29:02] I'm not

[00:29:05] I'm not here to cut up Jeff Goldblum

[00:29:07] Because I mean

[00:29:08] Hi, Anne, let's cut up Jeff Goldblum

[00:29:10] No!

[00:29:11] I'm kidding

[00:29:12] I just

[00:29:13] To me it seemed like

[00:29:16] They were just trying to get a name

[00:29:18] I mean

[00:29:19] It felt flat to me

[00:29:21] That's all I'm saying

[00:29:22] I was just gonna say

[00:29:23] Jeff Goldblum

[00:29:24] The thing that will forever amuse me

[00:29:25] Is that they gave him

[00:29:26] They gave him an entire show

[00:29:27] Called The World

[00:29:28] According to Jeff Goldblum

[00:29:30] And I have no idea

[00:29:31] What that show is about

[00:29:32] I don't have a clue

[00:29:33] I saw that

[00:29:34] I don't know if it's like a documentary show

[00:29:36] Or a comedy show

[00:29:37] What the deal is

[00:29:38] But

[00:29:38] They

[00:29:39] Disney Plus

[00:29:40] As a flagship show

[00:29:41] It's like

[00:29:41] Jeff Goldblum needs a show

[00:29:43] I saw that

[00:29:44] Like they launched the service with that show

[00:29:46] So he could do no wrong

[00:29:48] Also, he's one of Rachel's gay dads

[00:29:50] On Glee

[00:29:52] Yeah, and that's how I know him

[00:29:53] That's how I know him

[00:29:55] What?

[00:29:56] That's how you know Jeff Goldblum?

[00:29:58] That's how I know him

[00:29:58] That's how I found out about him

[00:29:59] Not Jurassic Park?

[00:30:02] Jurassic Park is scary

[00:30:05] That's so fair

[00:30:06] I mean

[00:30:07] That's where I know him from

[00:30:33] That's where I know him from

[00:30:34] I only know

[00:30:34] I only know Wicked because of Glee

[00:30:38] The first time I ever saw anything from Glee

[00:30:40] Was when Kurt blew the high note

[00:30:43] In singing competition

[00:30:44] And I was like

[00:30:45] What is this song?

[00:30:46] I must know this

[00:30:47] And then I looked up Defying Gravity

[00:30:50] Defying Gravity is my favorite song from that musical

[00:30:53] I know it's everybody's favorite song

[00:30:55] I mean yes, the basic

[00:30:56] I also love

[00:30:59] Oh

[00:31:01] What's it called?

[00:31:02] For Good

[00:31:03] I really like For Good

[00:31:04] For Good is a great song

[00:31:07] And then I'm a TikTok person

[00:31:09] So I obviously know popular

[00:31:13] I love how they staged both popular and

[00:31:15] The song title is Loathing, correct?

[00:31:19] Yep

[00:31:20] I love how they staged

[00:31:22] What is this feeling?

[00:31:24] Yes, you're right

[00:31:25] I love how they staged both of those songs

[00:31:28] Yeah, I do too

[00:31:30] I will say though

[00:31:32] People like

[00:31:34] Online

[00:31:35] The videos on YouTube

[00:31:37] People keep thinking that that's AI

[00:31:41] And it's not

[00:31:43] What's AI?

[00:31:44] The

[00:31:45] The music video short thing

[00:31:51] That they released

[00:31:54] Oh, just like a clip from the number?

[00:31:56] Yeah, a clip from the number

[00:31:57] They think that that's AI

[00:32:01] And I'm like, no

[00:32:03] It's not

[00:32:04] I mean, there's a thing called skin paint

[00:32:07] You can color someone green without AI

[00:32:10] It's a thing that they did before in the 30s

[00:32:14] Although, granted

[00:32:15] That paint made people sick and caught on fire

[00:32:17] But we've come a long way

[00:32:18] But paint still exists

[00:32:21] Yeah, it did

[00:32:22] It did make her very sick and catch on fire

[00:32:25] Both

[00:32:26] Yeah, that's a true fact

[00:32:29] I want to actually go back to like

[00:32:31] Because we were kind of talking about like little Easter eggs

[00:32:35] Did you see the little Easter egg of like the like

[00:32:39] It was like a

[00:32:40] Of an open book

[00:32:41] But then like the shadow of like the hands kind of

[00:32:45] Mm-hmm

[00:32:46] There's a specific photo of the

[00:32:50] OG Wizard of Oz

[00:32:53] Because

[00:32:53] I'm blanking on her name

[00:32:56] The Wicked Witch

[00:32:57] Of the Wicked Witch

[00:32:58] From the Wizard of Oz

[00:32:59] I'm blanking on her name

[00:33:01] But

[00:33:02] The actress?

[00:33:03] I can look that up

[00:33:04] Margaret Hamilton?

[00:33:05] Margaret Hamilton!

[00:33:07] Margaret Hamilton, thank you

[00:33:08] And

[00:33:09] She does that

[00:33:11] Like she does that

[00:33:13] And that exact shape in that book

[00:33:16] Is

[00:33:17] Like

[00:33:18] Like that exact shadow is in that book

[00:33:21] Well, nice

[00:33:22] Margaret Hamilton

[00:33:23] An actress so

[00:33:24] So convincing that

[00:33:25] She had to go on Mr. Rogers

[00:33:26] To convince people that she wasn't evil

[00:33:29] Yeah, she did

[00:33:30] Oh, I remember that

[00:33:32] She was like, I'm a good person actually

[00:33:34] I remember that

[00:33:36] That was funny

[00:33:36] Not that bitch that played Glinda

[00:33:39] Yeah

[00:33:40] Is she actually mean?

[00:33:41] That was always making me laugh

[00:33:42] She was apparently very mean to people

[00:33:45] Particularly the little people that were playing the munchkins

[00:33:48] Allegedly

[00:33:49] I

[00:33:50] I wasn't there

[00:33:50] I wasn't alive in the 30s

[00:33:52] So

[00:33:52] To be fair that

[00:33:53] That movie had a whole host of problems

[00:33:56] Oh

[00:33:57] Ah, God, yeah

[00:33:59] How many Easter eggs did you spot, Jake?

[00:34:03] Oh, gosh, I don't know

[00:34:04] Because I'm gonna be honest

[00:34:05] I was actually able to really enjoy this movie

[00:34:08] Normally when I watch movies

[00:34:10] I'm

[00:34:11] I'm not necessarily looking for things

[00:34:12] But I'm kind of like grading it in my head

[00:34:14] It's just something that I do

[00:34:16] Well, it became very clear that this movie was gonna be good

[00:34:20] Right out of the gate

[00:34:21] That I kind of stopped grading it

[00:34:22] And started really really enjoying it

[00:34:25] Yeah

[00:34:26] So I don't know

[00:34:27] I saw some stuff

[00:34:29] I.e. like I recognized

[00:34:31] Um

[00:34:33] I'm curious what they're

[00:34:34] I'm curious what they're gonna do with the shoes

[00:34:36] But like for example

[00:34:36] I noticed

[00:34:37] I noticed Fiero's whole like

[00:34:39] Dancing Like a Scarecrow

[00:34:40] I noticed

[00:34:40] Bach Woodsman

[00:34:41] Obviously we know the lion cub

[00:34:44] Is the cowardly lion

[00:34:46] Did you see

[00:34:49] In the beginning

[00:34:50] Before they do the title card

[00:34:52] Where they had

[00:34:54] Dorothy

[00:34:55] The wizard

[00:34:56] They had them walking the yellow bear road

[00:34:59] Yeah, they were skipping

[00:35:01] Although wasn't the timing off on that

[00:35:03] Because

[00:35:03] Oh no, they were going back to the emerald city

[00:35:05] Nevermind

[00:35:06] Yeah, yeah, I forgot

[00:35:07] I forgot they go twice

[00:35:08] Yes, you're correct

[00:35:09] Yep

[00:35:09] The movie's correct

[00:35:11] And then there's

[00:35:13] The poppy flowers

[00:35:14] Yes, the poppies

[00:35:16] Yep, and they put people to sleep

[00:35:17] So that's a thing

[00:35:18] Yeah

[00:35:20] So, okay, so in terms of the second half of this thing

[00:35:23] Is it literally just the second half of the play now?

[00:35:26] Like, are they gonna have to add more stuff?

[00:35:28] Yes

[00:35:28] No, I would guess

[00:35:29] I mean, they added stuff to the first half too

[00:35:32] So that's how they got the elongated runtime

[00:35:35] Do we know that

[00:35:36] Is the second one gonna be equally as long?

[00:35:38] Or is it gonna be short?

[00:35:39] Shorter?

[00:35:40] I would imagine they'll go for a similar length

[00:35:42] Because I mean, Defying Gravity is right in the middle

[00:35:45] Yeah, because I know that's where it ends

[00:35:48] That's for intermission

[00:35:49] That's where it goes to intermission

[00:35:50] Which I was saying to Hayley earlier

[00:35:52] That's, I kind of love that

[00:35:53] Because like, yeah

[00:35:55] It's like we're in a really long intermission

[00:35:57] Between movies

[00:35:58] Between the

[00:35:58] I mean, we are

[00:36:00] And I told Justin

[00:36:01] I hate that

[00:36:02] Because I'm not

[00:36:03] I don't wanna waste a damn

[00:36:05] One year

[00:36:06] Well here, is it only one year?

[00:36:09] Because I thought

[00:36:10] I thought they wish it

[00:36:11] Because isn't it a three year time jump

[00:36:13] In the play?

[00:36:14] Yeah, but it's only

[00:36:15] Yeah, I think they should make people wait three years

[00:36:18] I do

[00:36:19] You shut your mouth

[00:36:20] No, because

[00:36:21] It might be less than there actually

[00:36:23] No, see that's too

[00:36:25] That's too quick of a payoff

[00:36:27] I like waiting for shit

[00:36:29] I want the actors

[00:36:31] I want the actors to actually look older

[00:36:34] And not have to be digitally aged up

[00:36:36] Or any of this

[00:36:37] But they already filmed it all

[00:36:39] Well

[00:36:40] Wait and mask me

[00:36:43] Go back and reshoot it

[00:36:44] Because all the garbage you did already

[00:36:47] Is inadmissible

[00:36:48] Bin it

[00:36:49] It's trash

[00:36:51] Ariana, Cynthia

[00:36:52] I am sorry

[00:36:53] For those two

[00:36:55] Oh, don't be mad Ariana

[00:36:57] I thought you were stellar

[00:36:59] It looks good

[00:37:01] I wanna watch it

[00:37:02] It's on my list

[00:37:03] I'm excited

[00:37:04] I'm excited to

[00:37:05] And I know that we've seen

[00:37:08] Ariana in the bubble dress

[00:37:10] In the first scene

[00:37:12] But I'm excited to see

[00:37:14] The whole thing

[00:37:15] Like when she

[00:37:17] Goes up the stairs

[00:37:19] Do you guys think that

[00:37:20] Once part two comes out

[00:37:22] They'll do like a

[00:37:24] Four hour

[00:37:25] Like special edition

[00:37:26] Where both parts combined into one

[00:37:28] Oh, I would love that

[00:37:30] Oh yeah, you have to

[00:37:31] You have to

[00:37:32] Please

[00:37:35] And am I going to see it again next weekend?

[00:37:39] Yes

[00:37:40] How are you guys feeling?

[00:37:41] Do you think this is going to see some awards attention?

[00:37:44] Oh

[00:37:45] Yeah, I think so

[00:37:48] Ariana is like the first one

[00:37:50] On the list for

[00:37:52] An Oscar

[00:37:54] So the only reason I think she might not win an Oscar

[00:37:56] Is because she is

[00:37:57] And I don't mean this disparagingly

[00:37:59] Because I understand it

[00:38:01] I'm not going to say she's copying

[00:38:03] Because she doesn't do everything that Kristen Chenoweth did

[00:38:05] But to me an Oscar

[00:38:07] Would probably go to somebody that's not really doing an homage to a previously acted part

[00:38:13] If that makes sense

[00:38:15] I

[00:38:16] That makes sense to me

[00:38:17] You want something transformative

[00:38:18] The Academy loves transformation

[00:38:20] They're big about transformation

[00:38:22] If it's too similar to

[00:38:23] And also just

[00:38:24] My thing would be

[00:38:25] Is it too mainstream because it's a musical?

[00:38:28] It being a musical

[00:38:29] But like a musicals used to be big Oscar winners, right?

[00:38:31] Like, but they've become kind of like

[00:38:35] A cultural joke almost

[00:38:36] Like I was saying to Haley earlier

[00:38:38] I'm proud that this thing advertised itself as a musical

[00:38:41] And succeeded as a musical

[00:38:42] Like it didn't

[00:38:44] Because the common trend now is to hide the fact that you're a musical

[00:38:47] But I know you said that they

[00:38:48] You don't think they could have

[00:38:49] Just like Mean Girls

[00:38:51] Just like Mean Girls

[00:38:53] I roll my eyes

[00:38:54] I guess

[00:38:55] Now I'm getting so mad

[00:38:56] Thank you, Justin

[00:38:57] Thanks for making me mad again

[00:38:59] Who does that?

[00:39:01] I do that. I'm good at that

[00:39:02] I'm so mad now

[00:39:04] Me with my classic hot takes

[00:39:07] Classic hot takes

[00:39:09] And then I told Justin my hot take

[00:39:13] I

[00:39:15] And I think I

[00:39:15] We just said I just said that earlier

[00:39:17] But I must all say it again

[00:39:18] I liked I loved the movie way more

[00:39:24] We don't know what this is by the way

[00:39:29] This isn't the soundtrack

[00:39:31] What is oh my god

[00:39:32] This is

[00:39:34] This is a bootleg of the original Broadway production

[00:39:38] I hate you so much

[00:39:40] Give me that

[00:39:42] I can I may or may not be able to make you a cop

[00:39:46] Please do please do

[00:39:47] Oh my god please do

[00:39:49] I will like a pro shot

[00:39:50] More than I do now

[00:39:51] It's it's it's not a pro shot

[00:39:53] But it's it's well done

[00:39:55] Considering somebody snuck a camera into a theater

[00:39:58] Interesting

[00:39:58] It's not bad. It sounds it sounds actually pretty good too

[00:40:01] I was kind of surprised and this is in 2003

[00:40:05] So that's incredible

[00:40:07] That's that's yeah that's original cast

[00:40:09] I was like

[00:40:10] No it wasn't me

[00:40:11] No on Broadway. Yeah, no

[00:40:14] This was

[00:40:15] This is this was when this was during an age of the internet where the internet was still the wild west.

[00:40:21] Yep. Yeah, I thought I said I've seen most of Avenue Q and most of Avenue Q dear Evan Hansen and Book of Mormon is because of good old-fashioned bootlegging

[00:40:32] Because I found a bootleg on YouTube, but it's like all like different angles

[00:40:39] And I'm like oh see this is this is our one angle and you're not you're not at a really sharp angle. You're almost even with the stage you're like a little off kilter but not enough to be distracting

[00:40:49] Yeah, there's like and there's only there's only one time where they put the camera down for like a split second because somebody came by

[00:40:56] Like like like mine is just like like my boot bootleg that I watched was like

[00:41:04] Different like angles of everything. I'm like, we don't need different

[00:41:09] Well, see I also really think they should do a

[00:41:14] um, and i'm sure they have one somewhere of like a professionally filmed and edited original broadway production

[00:41:22] Absolutely. I think they should release that

[00:41:24] I'm I'm I'm I mean more seeing more and more I guess because they're they're discovering there's financial viability because I understand

[00:41:31] The hesitation to do pro shots like I totally get it

[00:41:35] It they when their mind it discourages people from going to the actual show and it keep but it's like for someone like me

[00:41:42] Well, if you do it 21 years later too, it's like yeah

[00:41:46] I can't go watch something on broadway. So yeah, it's the only chance I'm going to get to experience broadway

[00:41:52] And I really like that. They're filming these pro shots and they're putting them in theaters

[00:41:55] Like I think especially yeah for wicked get a pro shot out there put it in theaters as a companion piece people would show up for it

[00:42:02] Yeah, oh I wouldn't I would have

[00:42:04] Yeah, like I said like the movie literally boost up

[00:42:09] Broadway ticket sales

[00:42:11] Yeah, so exactly

[00:42:13] Here's a question

[00:42:15] You're if you could take one musical that hasn't already been adapted into a film

[00:42:20] What would you do?

[00:42:22] Yeah, get a little pill

[00:42:24] Oh good choice

[00:42:25] You could do like a you could do like a yeah book of mormon needs to be a movie

[00:42:29] Yeah, book of mormon. Oh my god. Book of mormon needs to be burned

[00:42:35] I

[00:42:36] Disagree. Yeah, she has she doesn't like book of mormon Jake

[00:42:38] I hate it. Well, you see Justin. She doesn't believe

[00:42:41] He doesn't believe that the lord god has created the universe. I believe it's garbage

[00:42:47] I

[00:42:48] I

[00:42:54] I

[00:42:55] I fully believe they could get the original cast back

[00:42:57] They like the nice thing about that is like they're they're not age dependent characters to absolutely

[00:43:04] Andrew rannells and josh gadd are like hot right now. Um

[00:43:08] Yeah, I absolutely believe you could I mean they're making a movie with Kendrick Lamar that they're currently filming

[00:43:13] I only know josh gadd from frozen and then I hate frozen

[00:43:16] Yeah, see this is before josh gadd hit it big. Yeah

[00:43:19] This is when this is when he was slumming it

[00:43:21] Yeah, I never was at that point but yeah, he wasn't he wasn't super bad

[00:43:25] I didn't know who he was until frozen. So

[00:43:28] I'm I book of book of mormon has entered my consciousness so much that anytime somebody answers the phone and goes hello

[00:43:34] I'm like hello

[00:43:36] My name is elder price

[00:43:37] And I would like to my favorite version of that is um of that song is

[00:43:43] Um

[00:43:44] There's a tony performance where they have some of the original cast and the um, the the guy who I does the initial hello

[00:43:51] My name is elder grant and I would like to share and he just does it so creepy and aggressively

[00:43:58] And I would like to share with you the most amazing

[00:44:02] I've talked to so many mormons because of that musical just straight up their stick is they do it creepy

[00:44:09] Not really depends on the mormon you talk to but

[00:44:16] I

[00:44:16] I there's one sorry good we'll respond quickly. I'll say that

[00:44:21] Yeah, like there was one one time one of them stopped me on the street and like they clearly asked a hundred people and I was just avoiding looking to avoid going home for some reason and they're like oh would you like to talk to us about about you know whatever and I was like sure

[00:44:36] And they're like, oh

[00:44:38] Oh, we weren't prepared for this

[00:44:39] We keep getting mormons at our door and they ask us that and my mom literally goes no we're good

[00:44:47] And then the shut snore

[00:44:49] How do you think I got this?

[00:44:51] Yeah, I look it's a it's a wild book

[00:44:53] Oh, you got it. Oh, it's yeah, it's wild and

[00:44:57] I mean kind of case in point so most versions

[00:45:00] How did we get into Book of Mormon?

[00:45:03] Because they sing too

[00:45:04] They sing

[00:45:05] They sing too

[00:45:06] In a and a haverside style musical

[00:45:09] If you would like just sort of a synopsis of you know, the Church of Latter-day Saints because fun fact they actually do not like to be called Mormons

[00:45:17] They do not know

[00:45:18] They're not

[00:45:19] This kind of perfectly encapsulates it right there

[00:45:22] But they also love the Book of Mormon ironically

[00:45:26] Well, yeah

[00:45:28] Yep. So if you can't tell it's a little blurry that's Jesus amidst a bunch of white people and Native Americans simultaneously

[00:45:34] Yes, yes it is

[00:45:36] Because that's somewhere in Missouri

[00:45:39] Yep, that's what they believe

[00:45:41] Oh, that's enough

[00:45:42] That Jesus came to America

[00:45:43] Yep

[00:45:44] The best, the best

[00:45:45] And the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri

[00:45:48] Jackson County, Missouri

[00:45:50] The episode of South Park where the family tells the story that's apparently unbelievably accurate

[00:45:56] Yeah, no, that's that's that's pretty that's pretty legit

[00:45:59] Although Dustin we're becoming the problem

[00:46:01] We're becoming the problem

[00:46:02] You are

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[00:46:46] You're both

[00:46:51] Wicked, Wicked, Wicked

[00:46:52] Yeah

[00:46:53] Wicked

[00:46:53] Part two coming out next year

[00:46:55] Oh, I did, did love the way they did No One Worns the Wicked

[00:47:00] I thought it was a really good number

[00:47:01] I loved that

[00:47:02] And can I just say this though?

[00:47:04] Like

[00:47:04] No

[00:47:05] Shut up

[00:47:07] You asked

[00:47:08] I'm sorry, I have to do that every time somebody says that

[00:47:10] I just

[00:47:12] No

[00:47:12] Oh my god

[00:47:13] I can't, I can't resist

[00:47:14] You asshole

[00:47:15] I never can

[00:47:16] Everybody has the same reaction too because they don't

[00:47:18] They're like half listening and then they realize

[00:47:20] Wait, did he just say no?

[00:47:24] No

[00:47:25] I don't

[00:47:27] Please continue

[00:47:29] You may, you may

[00:47:30] Now we don't know if I want to

[00:47:31] Oh, well

[00:47:31] Oh, well, nevermind

[00:47:35] You asshole

[00:47:39] Did I make you lose your thoughts?

[00:47:41] Legitimately

[00:47:42] Yes

[00:47:42] I will say this one thing

[00:47:48] Um

[00:47:50] It is a kick to the gut

[00:47:52] When

[00:47:54] They

[00:47:55] Like

[00:47:56] They literally

[00:47:57] Hand

[00:47:59] Glinda

[00:48:00] The

[00:48:02] Lit torch

[00:48:02] To throw at the

[00:48:04] Gigantic

[00:48:04] Witch

[00:48:05] And I'm like

[00:48:07] Yeah, and

[00:48:08] And Ariana has a couple of moments where her facial expressions were

[00:48:14] I mean, top notch because they let you know that this is very much an act for her

[00:48:18] And she has to keep, you know, the facade up

[00:48:22] But that brings a good question

[00:48:25] Uh, where in this movie did you cry?

[00:48:28] So I wonder if we share some of those

[00:48:32] Moments

[00:48:32] Um, I cried at No One Warnes the Wicked

[00:48:36] I cried at

[00:48:39] Um

[00:48:40] I cried at The Wizard and I

[00:48:44] Really? Okay

[00:48:45] Yes

[00:48:46] And then I definitely cried at The Fighting Gravity

[00:48:51] So I got

[00:48:52] I wouldn't say I cried

[00:48:53] But I got

[00:48:54] I got really emotional in the

[00:48:55] Because it was quite a bit darker

[00:48:57] In the movie than on the stage play

[00:48:59] When Dr. Dillman flips the board and it says animals should be seen not heard

[00:49:03] Yeah

[00:49:04] Because in the movie we actually see that

[00:49:08] Yeah

[00:49:09] As opposed to in the stage play it's just mentioned

[00:49:12] Yeah

[00:49:13] Um

[00:49:14] Is it just mentioned or I thought it was they showed that

[00:49:17] Im actually being dragged out of the room?

[00:49:19] I don't think so

[00:49:21] I feel like they do

[00:49:21] I think they do

[00:49:22] It's been a minute

[00:49:24] So you

[00:49:24] Like I may very well be wrong

[00:49:26] But I could have sworn that

[00:49:29] They come to class and then Dr. Dillman is just not there

[00:49:32] But I could be wrong

[00:49:33] So

[00:49:34] I'm sure someone in the comments will correct me

[00:49:36] Lethally

[00:49:38] Who's James Corden?

[00:49:41] He's the movie

[00:49:42] No he wasn't

[00:49:43] This movie's too good for him

[00:49:46] Peter Dinklage

[00:49:48] That's why his voice sounded so

[00:49:51] I'm like I know this voice

[00:49:53] Peter Dinklage

[00:49:54] Is Dr. Dillman

[00:49:55] Oh I was just hearing Tyrion

[00:49:59] Wasn't James Corden supposed to be

[00:50:00] I swear to god he was supposed to be

[00:50:02] No James Corden should have been

[00:50:03] As far away from this and any other legitimate production as possible

[00:50:07] He was supposed to be the goat man

[00:50:09] Whoever the goat man was

[00:50:10] He needs to be

[00:50:11] No James Corden needs to be way

[00:50:15] Far away

[00:50:17] He is in England

[00:50:18] Good, stay there

[00:50:20] That sounded really

[00:50:22] I was gonna say that sounded really xenophobic

[00:50:25] But it's England so fuck em

[00:50:26] I mean they kind of invented going where they don't belong

[00:50:30] He moved back to England when he

[00:50:32] When he got fired?

[00:50:34] No, when his show ended

[00:50:36] Yeah when he got fired

[00:50:38] I didn't know that

[00:50:39] They cancelled his show

[00:50:42] Well he left it

[00:50:43] He says he left it

[00:50:44] But uh

[00:50:45] I prefer to think that he was

[00:50:47] That he quit under the rest

[00:50:49] He supposedly quit

[00:50:51] I'm gonna google it

[00:50:54] I'm gonna google it

[00:50:54] Oh yeah

[00:50:54] He's just a

[00:50:56] Oh he's awful

[00:50:57] He's a dreadful human being

[00:51:00] Even him as um

[00:51:02] Mr. Mistoffelees

[00:51:04] In the Cats movie?

[00:51:07] I was gonna watch the Cats movie for an episode of the show

[00:51:10] Man you do like to

[00:51:12] Do I have to?

[00:51:16] What? Do I have to do a cat?

[00:51:18] Do I have to watch the Cats movie?

[00:51:20] Because I don't want to

[00:51:21] I

[00:51:22] No

[00:51:22] I was gonna do it for an episode of our show

[00:51:24] Oh

[00:51:24] It was uh

[00:51:25] Okay

[00:51:27] Rotten Tomatoes episode we were doing

[00:51:28] Okay

[00:51:30] I thought you

[00:51:31] I thought you said that

[00:51:33] Do we bought an episode for this podcast?

[00:51:36] And I'm like do I have to?

[00:51:38] No and the thing is I would

[00:51:40] This is a matter of principle

[00:51:43] Because

[00:51:44] I've not watched it

[00:51:45] But I

[00:51:46] I have heard people whose opinion I care about when it comes to theater

[00:51:51] Say they've watched it and they've all said the same thing

[00:51:54] Is that whoever made this monstrosity of a movie

[00:51:56] Does not understand Cats as a production

[00:51:59] No my question about Cats is

[00:52:00] It's animated

[00:52:04] But it's not

[00:52:05] Before we get back into

[00:52:06] Before we get back into Wicked I will say this one thing

[00:52:09] Um

[00:52:11] Have you heard the rumor of

[00:52:13] How Andrew Lloyd Webber

[00:52:16] went to go see this movie

[00:52:17] And immediately bought himself a support dog

[00:52:21] Because of this movie

[00:52:25] Of Wicked

[00:52:26] Of Wicked?

[00:52:26] Of Wicked?

[00:52:27] Of Cats you mean?

[00:52:27] Oh you heard it from me?

[00:52:28] Yeah okay I already told you that

[00:52:30] Yeah

[00:52:30] Sorry did he need a support animal for cats?

[00:52:33] Yep

[00:52:33] Cause it's so bad?

[00:52:34] I can see that

[00:52:35] That movie's horrifying

[00:52:36] No but just

[00:52:38] My point is why is it not like a Pixar style

[00:52:40] Cause I watched a bunch of behind the scenes

[00:52:42] Seems like it would be suited for like a Pixar Dreamworks style of animated movie

[00:52:48] My point is

[00:52:49] Where it's like Anthem before for cats in a cartoon sense

[00:52:51] Not really

[00:52:53] My problem with it

[00:52:55] My problem with it is

[00:52:56] Is why was it CGI

[00:52:58] And why wasn't it like live action?

[00:53:01] Yeah

[00:53:01] Just

[00:53:01] No but

[00:53:03] So cats

[00:53:04] Cats is one of those productions where you almost can't make it into a movie

[00:53:08] Because the whole spectacle

[00:53:09] Is the fact that it's people

[00:53:13] I'm not even gonna say dressed as cats

[00:53:15] Because the makeup is integral to the costume as a whole

[00:53:18] Yeah

[00:53:18] And that's sort of the thing

[00:53:20] Like that's the thing

[00:53:21] So if you do it live action

[00:53:23] You're just imitating the stage play

[00:53:25] Right

[00:53:25] And if you do it animated

[00:53:26] Then you would

[00:53:27] Like you wouldn't animate human cats

[00:53:30] You would animate cats

[00:53:32] Yeah

[00:53:32] Which eliminates the spectacle

[00:53:35] Because if you take the spectacle out of it

[00:53:36] It's a really kind of a lame ass story

[00:53:39] It's essentially about a

[00:53:41] You know bat that wants to get touched

[00:53:44] At the end of the day

[00:53:45] I mean that's basically it

[00:53:47] It's the spectacle of it all

[00:53:49] Yeah and the audience part too

[00:53:51] Is it

[00:53:51] That's why they look the way they do

[00:53:53] Is because they're trying to find a way to marry

[00:53:55] How they look in the play

[00:53:56] With making them look like real cats

[00:53:58] And it just winds up with this uncanny valley

[00:54:02] Like monstrosity of a movie

[00:54:03] That makes no one happy

[00:54:05] And to go back to

[00:54:06] To go back to Wicked

[00:54:08] I think that's the strength of this movie

[00:54:10] Is it looks like the thing

[00:54:12] Like I just

[00:54:12] I don't know like

[00:54:15] People don't seem to appreciate how much looking like the thing

[00:54:18] Like so many people don't want it to

[00:54:21] But me and Jordan talked about

[00:54:23] It's off topic

[00:54:24] But how do you guys feel about that

[00:54:26] How to Train Your Dragon live action movie?

[00:54:28] I thought it was cute

[00:54:30] My only thing

[00:54:31] Is if you're gonna do that

[00:54:34] You have to have Jerry Butler as Stoic the Vast

[00:54:37] And they did

[00:54:37] So I'm okay with it

[00:54:39] Cause me and Jordan are just kinda like

[00:54:40] It looks identical to the animated movie

[00:54:44] What's the point?

[00:54:46] Because the anime

[00:54:46] Because they'll sell tickets

[00:54:48] Basically

[00:54:49] Money

[00:54:51] Well because How to Train Your Dragon is

[00:54:54] I mean

[00:54:56] So I came to it kinda late

[00:54:58] Because I was on a

[00:54:59] When How to Train Your Dragon came out

[00:55:01] I don't remember why

[00:55:02] I was very

[00:55:03] In my mind

[00:55:04] Cause it wasn't consciously

[00:55:05] I was very not into Dreamworks

[00:55:07] At that point

[00:55:08] Because they hadn't really been putting out anything

[00:55:10] That I cared for

[00:55:11] And then

[00:55:13] Forget how I

[00:55:15] I fluke

[00:55:16] I watched it and I was like

[00:55:17] Wow this is actually a really really

[00:55:18] Good movie

[00:55:19] And then by the time How to Train Your Dragon 2

[00:55:21] Came out

[00:55:22] Which I did cry during

[00:55:24] Not gonna lie

[00:55:25] Cause I'm okay with my emotions

[00:55:27] I'm fine with it by the way

[00:55:28] I was saying before

[00:55:30] I didn't cry during the scene with Dr. Dillamon

[00:55:32] But I did feel the emotion

[00:55:33] But I

[00:55:33] I shed a couple tears

[00:55:35] For

[00:55:36] Defying Gravity

[00:55:38] That was a thing that happened

[00:55:39] And I am totally okay with it

[00:55:41] I didn't shed a couple tears

[00:55:42] I flowed a river

[00:55:44] I

[00:55:45] When I saw a clip of that

[00:55:46] And I'm like

[00:55:48] I haven't seen any of the rest of the movie

[00:55:50] This means nothing to me

[00:55:51] And like when it did that sweeping shot

[00:55:53] Like when she burst out

[00:55:54] I was like oof

[00:55:55] Yeah that's gonna be a

[00:55:56] That's gonna be a moment

[00:55:57] That's a powerful moment in the theater right there

[00:55:59] I did

[00:56:00] I did cry when I

[00:56:01] I did cry when I saw it on stage

[00:56:03] Cause it's

[00:56:03] It's just such a powerful

[00:56:05] Moment

[00:56:06] It is a

[00:56:06] It is a phenomenal

[00:56:08] Phenomenal ballad

[00:56:09] Like it really is

[00:56:10] It hits you right in the feels

[00:56:12] It does

[00:56:12] I cried so much

[00:56:14] During

[00:56:14] The movie

[00:56:16] Like that

[00:56:17] That scene in the movie

[00:56:18] But also in

[00:56:19] But that scene

[00:56:20] In the musical

[00:56:21] I cried so much

[00:56:22] In the musical

[00:56:23] That I had to go get water

[00:56:25] Cause I was dehydrated

[00:56:26] Cause I cried so much

[00:56:28] I mean

[00:56:29] No I haven't

[00:56:29] I haven't really

[00:56:30] I haven't really cried in a movie

[00:56:33] Hardcore

[00:56:34] Like since Toy Story 3

[00:56:36] I was a fucking child

[00:56:38] During that movie

[00:56:38] Oh my god yes

[00:56:39] Oh yeah

[00:56:41] See that's what

[00:56:42] That's when it got me the first time

[00:56:44] Okay

[00:56:44] So I'm like

[00:56:45] That wrecked me

[00:56:46] But then they get out

[00:56:47] And I think I'm safe

[00:56:48] I think I'm okay

[00:56:50] Then

[00:56:51] They hit you with

[00:56:52] Andy dropping them off

[00:56:54] At Bonnie's house

[00:56:55] Goodbye partner

[00:56:56] Gets me every time

[00:56:57] And then I was

[00:56:58] And then I was just like

[00:57:00] Not prepared

[00:57:01] Cause I was bracing myself

[00:57:02] At the

[00:57:03] The furnace moment

[00:57:05] But it still hit me

[00:57:06] I was woefully ill prepared

[00:57:08] For the final scene there

[00:57:11] And I just lost my shit

[00:57:13] And I'm just like

[00:57:13] I don't need to go

[00:57:16] What was the last thing that made me?

[00:57:17] They were willing to die together

[00:57:18] They were willing to die together

[00:57:19] That killed me man

[00:57:20] Oh my gosh

[00:57:21] That killed me so hard

[00:57:22] I was like

[00:57:24] Oh no?

[00:57:25] Yeah

[00:57:26] I know right?

[00:57:27] I'm crying

[00:57:28] It's happening

[00:57:29] I

[00:57:30] Sometimes I cry during this episode

[00:57:32] Cause I'm wicked

[00:57:32] Now I'm crying cause I'm

[00:57:33] The toilet's burning

[00:57:34] Well it's okay

[00:57:35] We can just play Define Gravity

[00:57:36] And go through it all over again

[00:57:39] You know for me

[00:57:40] It wasn't just the number though

[00:57:41] It was the fact that it was like

[00:57:44] So many things were culminating

[00:57:45] At the same time

[00:57:46] Because it's a powerful number

[00:57:48] The story's culminating

[00:57:49] The fact that this movie exists

[00:57:51] And is just making

[00:57:52] So many people happy

[00:57:54] It just hits you all

[00:57:55] At the same time

[00:57:56] And apart from the tears being shed

[00:57:58] I had chills

[00:57:59] Through so many musical numbers

[00:58:01] Because it sounds

[00:58:03] Yeah

[00:58:04] And then there was Toy Story 4

[00:58:07] I actually liked Toy Story 4

[00:58:09] But I mean I wasn't

[00:58:11] I wasn't like

[00:58:12] I wasn't bawling my eyes out or anything

[00:58:14] I got emotional at the end

[00:58:16] When she

[00:58:16] But I'm easily

[00:58:17] Emotionally manipulated

[00:58:18] Yeah but I mean

[00:58:19] That's true

[00:58:20] Me too

[00:58:21] But I mean when

[00:58:22] Woody said goodbye to Bopi

[00:58:24] That kinda got me

[00:58:26] Yeah I know

[00:58:27] For me it was when Buzz

[00:58:28] Said goodbye to Woody

[00:58:29] Yeah

[00:58:30] And then like

[00:58:31] Woody goes to infinity

[00:58:32] And then Buzz finishes

[00:58:34] And beyond

[00:58:35] And they like

[00:58:35] I was like

[00:58:37] Oh it's gonna be so

[00:58:38] Miniculate and it's working

[00:58:42] The moment they got me

[00:58:44] In Toy Story 4

[00:58:44] Was actually when

[00:58:46] What's the doll's name?

[00:58:48] The one that's trying to get

[00:58:48] Woody's voice box

[00:58:49] What's her name?

[00:58:50] Oh

[00:58:52] Gabby

[00:58:53] Gabby

[00:58:54] It's when

[00:58:56] Gabby sees the girl

[00:58:57] That's lost

[00:59:00] That's

[00:59:00] That's the one that

[00:59:01] That's the one that hit me

[00:59:02] At that point

[00:59:03] At that point

[00:59:04] Like

[00:59:05] I will say this

[00:59:06] I hated Gabby

[00:59:07] I was like

[00:59:07] Bitch that's my voice box

[00:59:09] Get your damn

[00:59:09] Your own damn self

[00:59:11] But see and that

[00:59:11] This is why

[00:59:12] This is why that movie

[00:59:13] Works so well

[00:59:13] Because Gabby is the antagonist

[00:59:15] Yeah

[00:59:16] But

[00:59:16] In the end

[00:59:18] All she wanted

[00:59:19] Was what all toys want

[00:59:21] It was just the means

[00:59:22] With which she was trying

[00:59:23] To get there

[00:59:24] Right

[00:59:24] Yeah

[00:59:25] But still

[00:59:26] The whole time

[00:59:27] Like every

[00:59:28] Scene with Gabby

[00:59:30] I was like

[00:59:30] Get your own

[00:59:32] Voice box

[00:59:33] Your damn self

[00:59:35] It was like

[00:59:35] It worked out in the end

[00:59:37] Pixar

[00:59:37] It's Pixar

[00:59:38] These characters are nuanced

[00:59:40] Pixar can

[00:59:41] Slay my emotions

[00:59:42] Like a fiddle

[00:59:42] And I am totally okay

[00:59:43] With it

[00:59:44] I will say

[00:59:44] Have you guys seen the

[00:59:45] The trailer for the new movie

[00:59:48] Which new movie

[00:59:49] Oh the newest

[00:59:50] We talked about today

[00:59:51] On the show

[00:59:52] It starts with an E

[00:59:53] It's about a young boy

[00:59:54] Who he wants to be abducted

[00:59:55] By aliens

[00:59:57] And there's a really funny joke

[00:59:59] In the trailer

[00:59:59] Which actually made me laugh

[01:00:01] Where he's trying to be abducted

[01:00:02] By aliens

[01:00:03] He's sitting there

[01:00:03] And all these alien

[01:00:04] Or he's like

[01:00:05] I'm trying to get abducted

[01:00:07] By aliens

[01:00:08] By aliens

[01:00:09] And he's like a little boy

[01:00:11] No I have not seen that

[01:00:13] It starts with an E

[01:00:15] I can't remember what it's definitely called

[01:00:16] But it's yeah

[01:00:17] It's pretty good

[01:00:18] Pixar movie that gets me every time

[01:00:19] Is Finding Nemo

[01:00:20] That always gets me

[01:00:22] Oh you're talking Pixar movies that get me

[01:00:24] Inside Out

[01:00:25] Finding Nemo and Wally

[01:00:26] They both get me

[01:00:26] Inside

[01:00:27] Oh my god

[01:00:28] Inside Out 2

[01:00:28] So I didn't

[01:00:31] I didn't

[01:00:32] Buy during that movie

[01:00:33] Has everybody here seen Inside Out 2

[01:00:34] I haven't yet

[01:00:35] Oh I've seen it

[01:00:36] Oh it's so good

[01:00:39] The Panic Attack

[01:00:40] I haven't even seen the first one

[01:00:41] Oh

[01:00:43] Why have you not seen Inside Out

[01:00:45] I just didn't see it like my thing

[01:00:47] Bing Bong

[01:00:48] Bing Bong

[01:00:48] Oh no

[01:00:49] Bing Bong

[01:00:50] Oh

[01:00:51] Oh no Haley

[01:00:52] Trust me

[01:00:53] That one makes me cry

[01:00:54] Trust me Haley

[01:00:55] I can see it

[01:00:55] Every time

[01:00:56] Every time

[01:00:56] You will love both of them

[01:00:57] It's

[01:00:58] I can see why you thought that

[01:01:00] Because I was dragged to see the first one

[01:01:03] I'm like this is dumb

[01:01:04] Like I wasn't kicking and screaming

[01:01:05] Because I'm a Lewis Black fan

[01:01:07] And I'm like I get to watch Lewis Black yell

[01:01:08] So I'll have a good time

[01:01:10] Haley when I tell you this thing

[01:01:12] Does things to your emotions

[01:01:14] That you

[01:01:15] Oh my god

[01:01:15] They

[01:01:16] You're not ready for

[01:01:17] You're just not ready for it

[01:01:19] I got emotional in the second one

[01:01:21] I didn't cry

[01:01:21] I did cry in the second one

[01:01:23] But that's because I cried laughing

[01:01:25] I think I talked about

[01:01:26] We did a review I talked about

[01:01:27] But it's

[01:01:28] I can't remember what the scene is right

[01:01:29] Off the top of my head

[01:01:30] But there's a recurring gag

[01:01:33] With anger and a particular character

[01:01:34] In the second one

[01:01:35] That me and Jordan

[01:01:36] We were just

[01:01:36] We were just

[01:01:36] We were cry laughing

[01:01:37] We were laughing

[01:01:38] It was pretty funny

[01:01:41] It's pretty good

[01:01:42] They're good

[01:01:42] There I think

[01:01:43] I've seen people say they're like a modern toy story

[01:01:45] Like they're this generation's toy story

[01:01:47] And I just so

[01:01:48] I so agree with that

[01:01:49] You two are beginning to be the problems again

[01:01:51] Well no I'm just

[01:01:53] I'm just gonna leave with this

[01:01:54] Cause we're talking about emotional scenes

[01:01:55] Yeah

[01:01:56] The panic attack scene Justin

[01:01:58] Yeah

[01:01:59] Oh so good

[01:02:00] Holy shit

[01:02:01] I'm in the theater watching that

[01:02:03] I'm like this

[01:02:04] This is

[01:02:05] Yeah

[01:02:05] Fucking cinema

[01:02:06] This is cinema

[01:02:08] It's

[01:02:08] It's

[01:02:09] It's very similar to the defying gravity moment actually

[01:02:11] In terms of what it does to your emotions

[01:02:13] Because

[01:02:14] You're not physically experiencing it

[01:02:16] But because of what you're watching

[01:02:17] You are kind of going through the emotional steps

[01:02:22] If that makes sense

[01:02:23] Yeah

[01:02:24] I will watch

[01:02:25] I will watch both movies

[01:02:27] I will get Disney Plus again

[01:02:28] I will watch both movies

[01:02:30] They're both pretty good

[01:02:31] If

[01:02:31] If you

[01:02:32] Come on the podcast again

[01:02:34] And

[01:02:34] So we can discuss it

[01:02:36] What

[01:02:36] Oh

[01:02:37] God

[01:02:38] I'll take that yeah

[01:02:39] We will absolutely be the problem on that one

[01:02:41] But we will be talking about inside out the whole time

[01:02:43] I mean there's a new show coming out

[01:02:45] We can make it

[01:02:46] We can make it SEO friendly

[01:02:47] Oh yeah

[01:02:48] Yeah

[01:02:48] That's true

[01:02:49] Which

[01:02:50] Speaking of which Haley not to

[01:02:53] Are

[01:02:53] Are you free

[01:02:54] To

[01:02:55] Come on

[01:02:56] A podcast tomorrow

[01:02:57] By chance

[01:02:58] What time

[01:03:00] I'm open

[01:03:01] So anytime after five

[01:03:02] After six

[01:03:03] I'm

[01:03:04] Wide open

[01:03:05] Yeah

[01:03:06] I'm open

[01:03:06] Okay well

[01:03:08] Since I got both of you here

[01:03:11] I should double check

[01:03:12] But me and Jordan have our one year anniversary coming back coming up

[01:03:15] And if you all are

[01:03:16] I'm pretty sure it's December 8th

[01:03:18] Sunday December 8th

[01:03:19] So if you all are available

[01:03:21] We're going to be talking about shit we've already talked about

[01:03:25] Cool

[01:03:25] I'll just bring Noah back up and rip that one another new asshole

[01:03:29] Yeah

[01:03:30] The thing is Jordan's going to talk about stuff I talked about

[01:03:33] I'm going to talk about stuff he talked about

[01:03:35] And it's just going to be a celebration of a year of doing the show

[01:03:39] Holy old switcheroo

[01:03:40] I forgot what I talked about on your show

[01:03:43] I've been on your show so many times that I forgot what I talked about

[01:03:47] We did musicals

[01:03:48] We did

[01:03:50] Dreamworks

[01:03:50] And animation

[01:03:52] Oh yeah I was the one who screwed that up

[01:03:54] I was supposed to talk about Don Blue

[01:03:55] But anyway Haley are you a fan of Moana?

[01:04:01] Yes? No?

[01:04:04] No

[01:04:04] Oh no

[01:04:05] Oh okay so we'll agree on this one

[01:04:07] So

[01:04:08] What I want to do to be SEO friendly is I basically want to

[01:04:11] You know not

[01:04:14] Because I don't hate Moana but I feel like it's overly loved and I want to take it down a peg before Moana 2 comes out

[01:04:20] I mean Moana 2 looks bad so

[01:04:23] Or was it out all right? I thought it came out the 26th

[01:04:25] I saw a commercial for it when like when they do the commercials before the movie starts and it looks bad

[01:04:35] Oh it does

[01:04:37] It does

[01:04:38] Have you guys seen the set photos of The Rock doing the live action one in the muscle suit?

[01:04:42] No

[01:04:43] Do yourself a favor look it up it's amazing it looks terrible

[01:04:46] Oh

[01:04:47] Like it looks amazing in the sense that it looks terrible and it looks really fun

[01:04:52] Really really funny

[01:04:53] But it looks terrible

[01:04:54] This movie tries too hard I swear

[01:04:57] It does

[01:04:58] Well no The Rock is trying too hard but we'll talk about that tomorrow night Haley if you're available

[01:05:02] Oh wow

[01:05:03] Okay

[01:05:03] I need a guest co-host to record an early episode

[01:05:09] So

[01:05:09] For Tootalk?

[01:05:11] No for Average Intelligence because I'm going to be traveling

[01:05:14] Oh okay

[01:05:15] I'm going to be traveling on Wednesday so we can't do it live so

[01:05:18] Fair enough

[01:05:19] Fair enough

[01:05:20] And Eric can't do it on Monday so

[01:05:23] And I have an interview on Tuesday so

[01:05:26] Yeah because apparently this stupid MFer doesn't know when to say no

[01:05:33] Hey

[01:05:34] I get that

[01:05:35] It's one thing I love about you

[01:05:38] It's why it's why I'm here talking wicked

[01:05:40] Wicked

[01:05:40] The thing I'm going to be most pissed off about when I die is that I can't work anymore

[01:05:45] That's going to be a thing

[01:05:46] Anyway

[01:05:47] Wicked

[01:05:47] Wicked

[01:05:49] I mean it was wicked good

[01:05:50] I mean it was a wicked good movie yeah

[01:05:53] Wicked good yeah

[01:05:54] It was wicked good yeah

[01:05:56] It was wicked good yeah

[01:05:57] Stop it

[01:05:58] What part was the most wicked for you?

[01:06:02] I am impressed that this movie exists

[01:06:04] I'm impressed that it's been so successful

[01:06:07] And I'm happy what it means for musicals and movies

[01:06:11] Because I just felt like the music

[01:06:14] Because I come from a place of growing up with like

[01:06:16] Classic Mary Poppins, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

[01:06:20] You know from the era when musicals used to win Oscars

[01:06:22] And I just feel like like the western the musical the movie musical has lost respect

[01:06:27] And I think this shows that there's an audience for them

[01:06:31] And that we can advertise musicals as musicals again

[01:06:34] We don't need to pretend that they're not musicals anymore

[01:06:36] Make musicals musical again

[01:06:39] Yes absolutely make musicals musical again

[01:06:43] So

[01:06:43] Let Jesse Eisenberg do his

[01:06:45] Real quick musical theater related aside

[01:06:48] You guys probably don't know this

[01:06:50] You know Jesse Eisenberg's gonna make a musical?

[01:06:52] I'll bring it up because it's so random

[01:06:54] He's making a musical about community theater

[01:06:56] He's directing and writing it

[01:06:59] That sounds like something Lin-Manuel Miranda would do

[01:07:01] And I am not here for it

[01:07:03] Right? I'm just like Jordan like

[01:07:05] Jesse Eisenberg and I went

[01:07:07] Yeah he's like can you sing?

[01:07:08] I'm like I have no clue

[01:07:09] That makes no sense

[01:07:10] That makes no sense

[01:07:12] It's just a random bit of musical theater

[01:07:14] No see he's gonna Lin-Manuel

[01:07:16] Cause he's just gonna get up there and talk really fast

[01:07:18] In a way that's so somewhat rhythmic

[01:07:20] Rhythmic, rhythmic, rhythmic

[01:07:20] And like my head's going crazy and I can't really sing

[01:07:23] So I'm gonna talk really fast in a rhythmic, rhythmic, rhythmic

[01:07:28] More musicals

[01:07:29] That's my ultimate thesis of today's episode

[01:07:32] Not less, not less musicals, more musicals

[01:07:37] So what do we think the breakout song is gonna be for part 2?

[01:07:41] Oh that's a dumb question, it's totally gonna be for good

[01:07:44] Yeah it's probably

[01:07:45] Oh is that an act 2 song?

[01:07:47] Yeah that's the closing number

[01:07:50] Oh it's the closing number

[01:07:51] Oh okay I didn't know that

[01:07:54] I'm trying to get my lights on

[01:07:56] I feel like

[01:08:01] I think

[01:08:02] If they're going

[01:08:04] If they're going

[01:08:07] Chronologically ordered

[01:08:08] It's gonna be thank goodness

[01:08:10] Yeah

[01:08:12] Do you guys think they'll include more stuff

[01:08:14] As the breakout

[01:08:14] As the breakout number though?

[01:08:17] Yeah that's the breakout number

[01:08:19] Oh no I'm sorry

[01:08:21] I don't mean

[01:08:22] Yeah I'm sorry we're getting two different breakouts

[01:08:24] No I mean like as far as

[01:08:27] Popularity?

[01:08:29] That's not the right word

[01:08:30] The number that most people are gonna love

[01:08:32] So I guess popularity

[01:08:36] You're right Hayley

[01:08:37] That would be the breakout number

[01:08:38] Because that's the number that the

[01:08:40] Act 2 starts on

[01:08:42] I'm talking about like popular

[01:08:44] Is there a

[01:08:46] Is there an original song in this?

[01:08:48] So they can get that original song nomination for the Oscars?

[01:08:51] There is not

[01:08:52] I was gonna say I didn't think so

[01:08:54] No, they followed the book pretty well

[01:08:56] Interesting, because the one of these always has a new song

[01:08:59] So they can go for best original song

[01:09:01] Like We Miss has that song about how Hugh Jackman wants to be a dad

[01:09:09] So sorry

[01:09:10] Just as somebody who's seen Les Mis

[01:09:12] Your characterization

[01:09:13] That's great

[01:09:15] That's what that song's about

[01:09:17] I know, that's why it's funny

[01:09:20] I hate so much

[01:09:22] These always have an original

[01:09:23] That surprises me because that's how they get the Oscar

[01:09:25] They always have an original song

[01:09:27] Well West Side Story didn't have an original

[01:09:29] Did it not?

[01:09:31] No, I don't think so

[01:09:32] It went right through the musical

[01:09:35] Yeah, they changed some things up

[01:09:37] But they didn't create any new numbers

[01:09:39] Oh, interesting

[01:09:40] Because yeah, that's why like

[01:09:41] Like Aladdin has Speechless

[01:09:43] So it can get nominated for an Oscar

[01:09:45] And I'm 100% sure

[01:09:46] Neither will this

[01:09:48] I don't know where you could add another number

[01:09:51] I mean, it's pretty stacked with songs

[01:09:53] I mean, it flows musically pretty consistently

[01:09:56] I think the reason why it's like longer is because

[01:10:00] It's because they're adding detail

[01:10:03] They're not adding song

[01:10:05] So there's more like dialogue scenes as opposed to musical numbers

[01:10:09] Did they take out something bad?

[01:10:12] Or did they convert that more into an interlude?

[01:10:15] No, they made that more of like a little interlude instead of like a full number

[01:10:18] Yeah, yeah

[01:10:20] What's the song?

[01:10:22] Because isn't there a certain ratio of like

[01:10:23] You should have a certain amount of like song to dialogue ratio per musical

[01:10:28] Yeah, I think so

[01:10:31] Unless it's a rock opera then you just sing everything

[01:10:35] Yeah, that's fine the way

[01:10:35] I really hope that as much as I love that musical

[01:10:39] I really hope they don't do school rock

[01:10:42] Oh, okay

[01:10:44] Okay, I thought you were going to say something

[01:10:47] Don't ask me why I thought because I

[01:10:49] I thought you were about to say as long as you're mine

[01:10:51] And I'm like they have to do that song

[01:10:52] No, they have to do that song

[01:10:54] They're gonna do that song

[01:10:55] I know that they are

[01:10:56] They better do that song

[01:10:57] Oh wait, there's a song called School of Rock you mean?

[01:10:59] Or you thought you mean School of Rock the musical?

[01:11:01] No, there's a musical

[01:11:02] Oh, but the musical's good

[01:11:03] Before the Jack Black movie

[01:11:07] Yeah, yeah, I've seen that

[01:11:09] I've seen parts of it

[01:11:09] That musical's good

[01:11:11] It's Andrew Lloyd Webber

[01:11:12] That's quite good

[01:11:14] But

[01:11:15] If you've seen the Beetlejuice musical

[01:11:16] It's Alex Brightman

[01:11:17] He plays the Jack Black role

[01:11:18] Oh wait, I just

[01:11:19] I just contradicted myself

[01:11:20] Yeah, they already did that

[01:11:21] Yeah, they did do that

[01:11:23] It's quite good

[01:11:24] I know that Robert Zemeckis wants to do a movie version of the Back to the Future musical

[01:11:28] And to that I say do it

[01:11:30] Do it

[01:11:31] Here's the thing

[01:11:33] I just

[01:11:35] Don't want any more like rock

[01:11:37] Kind of like

[01:11:41] Musicals

[01:11:43] Honestly, I'm a rock guy

[01:11:44] I want way more rock musicals

[01:11:45] There can never be enough rock musicals

[01:11:47] I don't like traditional Hammerstein musicals

[01:11:50] I find them boring

[01:11:51] I think that's maybe why I didn't like the producers

[01:11:53] That was very traditional

[01:11:55] Well they already did that

[01:11:55] So they did that

[01:11:57] With Brandy Cinderella

[01:11:58] So they can't do that

[01:12:00] For real

[01:12:02] They can't

[01:12:03] They can't do it again

[01:12:06] But wicked

[01:12:07] Is there anything you didn't like in the movie?

[01:12:10] In the movie?

[01:12:13] No

[01:12:14] I was gonna say

[01:12:15] She's thinking

[01:12:16] Nope, it was fine

[01:12:17] I did like the effigy

[01:12:18] I thought that was a nice touch

[01:12:19] That Glinda

[01:12:20] I thought that was really good

[01:12:22] Yeah

[01:12:25] I just hope there's no tiger sex

[01:12:29] In part 2

[01:12:30] I don't think there will be

[01:12:32] Because it wasn't in the stage play

[01:12:35] They did take some elements of the book

[01:12:37] But it was more like

[01:12:39] They didn't take anything

[01:12:40] That I can recall

[01:12:41] They didn't take anything that was

[01:12:42] Strictly from the book

[01:12:43] That wasn't in the musical

[01:12:44] But they used certain aspects

[01:12:46] And extended them basically

[01:12:48] It's like there's an extended sequence

[01:12:50] Of Dr. Dillam

[01:12:51] In meeting with other animals

[01:12:52] And talking about what's going on

[01:12:54] As opposed to the stage play

[01:12:55] Where it all happens in the classroom

[01:12:57] In a private conversation

[01:12:58] Between Dillamon and Elphaba

[01:13:00] Which I should have liked better

[01:13:01] I do

[01:13:02] There's constraints of the stage play

[01:13:05] That this movie did not have

[01:13:06] And they fully exploited it

[01:13:09] For example

[01:13:10] The number you liked Haley

[01:13:12] The Wizard and I

[01:13:14] On the stage play

[01:13:15] It's not a bad number

[01:13:16] But it's simple

[01:13:17] She's not moving around a lot

[01:13:20] Yeah

[01:13:21] As opposed to the movie

[01:13:22] Where she's going across campus

[01:13:24] And they're doing things

[01:13:25] Making it a little bit funnier

[01:13:27] More powerful

[01:13:28] That kind of stuff

[01:13:29] See

[01:13:30] That to me is using the medium of film

[01:13:33] To make the music

[01:13:34] To add to the stage musical

[01:13:37] Like we keep talking about Dear Evan Hansen

[01:13:39] But like the best example of this

[01:13:41] In terms of like

[01:13:43] Comparing Dear Evan Hansen to Wicked

[01:13:45] Defying Gravity

[01:13:46] Because it's the one scene from this movie I've seen

[01:13:48] It's very dynamic

[01:13:49] She's flying around

[01:13:51] It's stuff that you just can't do on stage

[01:13:53] Right?

[01:13:54] Dear Evan Hansen

[01:13:55] One of the big

[01:13:55] Have you seen Dear Evan Hansen Jake?

[01:13:59] No

[01:13:59] No okay

[01:14:00] One of the big numbers

[01:14:01] One of the big

[01:14:02] The big plot point of it

[01:14:03] Is he's telling this fictional story

[01:14:05] And there's a number

[01:14:06] Where he sings

[01:14:07] This story to

[01:14:10] This family

[01:14:11] And in the stage play

[01:14:13] It's stage where he

[01:14:14] They're in the kitchen

[01:14:15] And he's singing

[01:14:17] To these

[01:14:18] To his family

[01:14:19] And it's very much

[01:14:20] Oh are you talking about words fail?

[01:14:21] You talking about words fail?

[01:14:22] No words fail is another example of this

[01:14:24] But I'm talking about For Forever

[01:14:26] And in the movie

[01:14:28] It just kind of turns into

[01:14:30] He's just kind of awkwardly standing there

[01:14:32] Singing at him

[01:14:33] Like singing at them

[01:14:35] It doesn't really do anything

[01:14:36] It doesn't change anything

[01:14:37] With the staging

[01:14:38] It doesn't really add anything

[01:14:39] To make it interesting

[01:14:40] And Wicked

[01:14:41] Sounds like it does

[01:14:42] And that

[01:14:43] I as a person who hasn't seen it

[01:14:46] That intrigues me

[01:14:47] Because I'm like

[01:14:47] Oh yeah they're doing something

[01:14:48] With the medium of film

[01:14:50] And they absolutely are

[01:14:51] That's cool

[01:14:52] I ushered for Dear Evan Hansen

[01:14:53] Like two weeks ago

[01:14:54] So I saw it

[01:14:55] I know I was jealous

[01:14:55] I saw the musical for my

[01:14:57] For the first time

[01:14:58] Oh for the first time?

[01:15:00] You had never seen it

[01:15:00] I love that musical

[01:15:02] I loved it

[01:15:02] I still love that musical

[01:15:03] I cried

[01:15:04] I loved it

[01:15:05] Yeah I cried at the end of that musical

[01:15:08] Wait yeah

[01:15:09] I fully recommend the musical

[01:15:10] Do not recommend the movie

[01:15:12] You can still find

[01:15:13] There's a good bootleg

[01:15:14] With the original cast

[01:15:15] With Ben Platt

[01:15:15] That's way better than the movie

[01:15:19] So again Wicked

[01:15:21] Wicked yeah

[01:15:22] Yeah I'm excited to watch it

[01:15:23] You guys may be excited to watch it

[01:15:25] Oh no you'll enjoy it

[01:15:26] You'll enjoy it

[01:15:26] Yeah

[01:15:27] It's a good movie going experience

[01:15:29] And you will enjoy it

[01:15:31] I'd say the only thing you have to have seen

[01:15:33] Is the Wizard of Oz

[01:15:35] Good to know

[01:15:35] That's pretty much it

[01:15:37] Is it

[01:15:38] Is it better than

[01:15:38] Oz the Great and Powerful?

[01:15:40] It's not a good dude

[01:15:42] Watching paint dry is better than

[01:15:43] Oz the Great and Powerful

[01:15:44] What?

[01:15:45] Who makes this?

[01:15:48] Universal

[01:15:49] Universal

[01:15:49] Universal and John M. Chu

[01:15:53] Well I meant distributor

[01:15:54] Is it going to be

[01:15:56] Universal

[01:15:57] Universal

[01:15:58] Because

[01:15:58] Where do you think it's going?

[01:16:00] Um

[01:16:01] Who knows

[01:16:02] It's whoever

[01:16:03] With Universal

[01:16:04] It's whoever they license it to right?

[01:16:06] Interesting

[01:16:06] So it's not like a

[01:16:07] It's going to specifically HBO Max or Disney

[01:16:09] I would imagine it'll end up on HBO Max

[01:16:12] Cause they'll probably

[01:16:13] It'll be on HBO Max or Netflix

[01:16:15] Probably HBO Max

[01:16:16] Which

[01:16:17] I'm hoping

[01:16:17] Fingers crossed for Netflix

[01:16:18] I like it for it to go

[01:16:20] I mean Netflix

[01:16:20] Netflix is spending a lot of money

[01:16:22] So I wouldn't be surprised

[01:16:23] Like people will be fighting

[01:16:25] For the streaming license for this

[01:16:26] Oh for sure

[01:16:27] So they're going to make a mint

[01:16:28] Do you guys think

[01:16:30] Cause like the game now is

[01:16:32] A lot of companies are realizing

[01:16:33] If you leave this in theaters

[01:16:34] For a while letting it build

[01:16:35] Do you think they're going to let it

[01:16:36] Sit in theaters and build?

[01:16:38] Yes they absolutely should

[01:16:39] And that's what I'm saying

[01:16:41] So Fathom Events needs to get a hold of this

[01:16:43] And I'm kind of surprised they haven't

[01:16:44] Already talking about how

[01:16:45] You know you have like

[01:16:46] The professionally shot

[01:16:48] Stage play

[01:16:49] Yeah

[01:16:49] And Shocked Fathom Events

[01:16:51] Isn't screening that

[01:16:53] I can't believe

[01:16:54] Here

[01:16:54] Okay here's my point

[01:16:55] How are you guys feeling about singing in the theater?

[01:16:59] I'm for it

[01:16:59] I'm for it

[01:17:01] I'm the problem

[01:17:02] It depends on who's

[01:17:03] It depends on who's singing

[01:17:04] I'm the problem

[01:17:05] I'm the problem

[01:17:06] I don't give a shit

[01:17:06] I stay

[01:17:07] My thing is like

[01:17:08] I understand why people don't like it

[01:17:11] But I fully understand why people do it

[01:17:13] My compromise is

[01:17:14] Why not have special sing-along screenings?

[01:17:17] They do

[01:17:17] Where you can show

[01:17:18] They are

[01:17:18] They are

[01:17:20] Are

[01:17:21] On Christmas

[01:17:22] December 20th

[01:17:23] That's awesome

[01:17:25] December 20th?

[01:17:26] What?

[01:17:27] It was a couple weeks ago

[01:17:28] If I'm going there to

[01:17:30] To

[01:17:31] My thing is

[01:17:32] There's a

[01:17:33] I always say this

[01:17:33] But there's a difference between doing a thing

[01:17:35] Like watching a movie for this

[01:17:37] And watching a movie for fun

[01:17:39] And if I'm watching a movie for this

[01:17:40] I don't want some 16 year old girl singing behind me

[01:17:44] But like

[01:17:45] If I'm going there for fun

[01:17:46] Yeah I want to be able to sing

[01:17:47] So I understand both sides

[01:17:48] Yeah fair enough

[01:17:50] I just don't want to be in the theater

[01:17:52] With somebody who's just gone through a breakup

[01:17:55] Who starts literally shrinking defying gravity

[01:17:58] Stop it!

[01:18:00] Stop it!

[01:18:02] Oh my god stop it!

[01:18:03] No time I got to stop

[01:18:05] It's all else

[01:18:06] It's all my way

[01:18:08] Oh my god

[01:18:09] Shut up

[01:18:10] Oh my god

[01:18:11] Oh my god

[01:18:11] Shut up

[01:18:12] I'm about flying somewhere

[01:18:14] At least that's flying free

[01:18:17] Yeah

[01:18:18] Oh my god

[01:18:19] Shut up

[01:18:20] Oh my god

[01:18:21] I

[01:18:22] Yeah I love that song

[01:18:23] That sounds seriously so good

[01:18:24] Tell me it hasn't happened

[01:18:25] Tell me it hasn't happened somewhere

[01:18:27] I'm sure some

[01:18:28] Some theater at like

[01:18:29] 2 o'clock in the afternoon

[01:18:30] I sure didn't

[01:18:31] I sure didn't do that

[01:18:32] What?

[01:18:34] See that's why

[01:18:35] I'm going to watch it at home

[01:18:36] Like God intended

[01:18:37] Where I can sing to my heart's content

[01:18:40] Oh

[01:18:40] It was funny though

[01:18:42] I heard somebody

[01:18:44] I don't know who said it

[01:18:45] But in the scene where

[01:18:47] Glenda

[01:18:49] Convinces Bach to ask out Nessa

[01:18:51] Somebody in my theater just went

[01:18:52] Bitch

[01:18:57] See man

[01:18:58] That's why

[01:18:59] I was like well

[01:18:59] Why do you still want to go to the theaters

[01:19:01] I'm like that's why man

[01:19:03] Moments like that

[01:19:03] Oh no see

[01:19:05] I love going to the theater

[01:19:06] Because I'll tell you what

[01:19:08] There's going to be a lot of people

[01:19:09] That wait for this to come to streaming

[01:19:11] And that's a mistake

[01:19:12] This is a movie

[01:19:13] This is a movie

[01:19:15] This is a movie

[01:19:15] That needs to be seen in a theater

[01:19:16] And there's a lot of movies like that

[01:19:18] Like I said the same thing about

[01:19:20] I'm upset that I didn't see it in IMAX

[01:19:23] Because I mean it was good

[01:19:25] It was good

[01:19:26] It was good

[01:19:27] But I'm going to go back

[01:19:28] And see it in IMAX

[01:19:29] Do you have a

[01:19:30] Do you have an AMC near you Haley?

[01:19:32] We do not

[01:19:33] We

[01:19:34] Ours

[01:19:35] Ours

[01:19:36] Closed

[01:19:37] Because I was going to suggest

[01:19:39] If you have

[01:19:41] Hot take

[01:19:42] But anyone who's actually done this

[01:19:44] Will agree with me

[01:19:45] I'm not huge on IMAX

[01:19:47] I'm really big on Dolby

[01:19:50] Yeah we have

[01:19:52] It's called Ultra AVX

[01:19:54] Yeah it's better

[01:19:55] It's a better experience

[01:19:56] I don't give a shit about the screen size

[01:19:58] It's big enough

[01:19:58] I care about the moving sound

[01:20:00] The high color contrast

[01:20:02] And just it's better

[01:20:04] I saw 1917

[01:20:05] It was my first movie

[01:20:07] That I saw in Dolby

[01:20:08] And I just happened to incidentally

[01:20:10] Because it was only available in Dolby

[01:20:12] So I was like what's Dolby

[01:20:13] They're like

[01:20:13] It's you know 5D sound

[01:20:15] And I'm like oh okay

[01:20:16] I don't care

[01:20:16] Because I hate 3D movies

[01:20:18] So the only thing I cared about

[01:20:19] Was is this in 3D

[01:20:20] And they said no

[01:20:20] So I'm like fine whatever

[01:20:21] And there's a scene

[01:20:23] Where the main character's getting shot at

[01:20:25] But it's coming from behind him

[01:20:27] The sound came from behind me

[01:20:29] And I went like

[01:20:29] The fuck?

[01:20:31] That's awesome

[01:20:32] And then I realized

[01:20:32] I was like oh I like Dolby

[01:20:34] I like Dolby

[01:20:35] The only thing

[01:20:36] The only thing is

[01:20:37] If you're in a Dolby cinema

[01:20:38] Don't sit in the back row

[01:20:39] Because Eric and I

[01:20:40] I went and watched Venom 2

[01:20:43] And we were too close to the speakers

[01:20:46] So the whole movie were just like

[01:20:50] That's funny

[01:20:51] This is not a good spot

[01:20:53] Venom 2 let there be red venom

[01:20:56] And basically

[01:20:57] There's a red one

[01:21:01] Getting back to Wicked

[01:21:03] Wicked

[01:21:04] Wicked would be good in that though

[01:21:06] Because you'd get the full

[01:21:07] Wicked would be amazing in Dolby

[01:21:11] Because you'd get the full surround sound

[01:21:13] And musicals where you want

[01:21:15] Good quality sound

[01:21:16] For sure

[01:21:18] I'm glad I was wrong

[01:21:19] I'm big about it

[01:21:21] It's always nice to be wrong about a movie

[01:21:23] I'd much rather think a movie is bad

[01:21:26] Like let it look bad

[01:21:27] And be pleasantly

[01:21:29] But also like I'm the kind of guy

[01:21:31] Where I don't mind bad movies

[01:21:32] Like even if it was bad

[01:21:33] I would go hate watch it with Jordan

[01:21:35] And we'd laugh

[01:21:37] We've done that a few times

[01:21:39] Yeah I'm gleefully eating my crow

[01:21:42] And I

[01:21:44] And I will

[01:21:45] Eat it again

[01:21:47] Because I'm glad I was wrong

[01:21:48] For your consideration campaigns

[01:21:50] For the lot of them

[01:21:52] Jake

[01:21:52] Justin

[01:21:53] What?

[01:21:54] Jake Justin Heel

[01:21:55] Okay

[01:21:55] I said for your consideration campaigns

[01:21:58] For the lot

[01:21:59] Heel

[01:22:04] It's not wicked

[01:22:09] What's that kind of thing?

[01:22:10] The whole time of thing I'm like

[01:22:12] I wish that these

[01:22:14] Instead of animals

[01:22:15] Is turning into animals or something

[01:22:19] I mean

[01:22:21] That's the one thing the book has

[01:22:22] On the

[01:22:23] On the stage play in the movie

[01:22:26] Is the fact that

[01:22:27] They can differentiate it in print

[01:22:29] So you know

[01:22:29] Yeah

[01:22:30] In the book

[01:22:32] When they're talking about

[01:22:33] Animals in general

[01:22:34] Or a specific animal

[01:22:35] If it's the

[01:22:37] You know like anthropomorphized

[01:22:38] Humanoid version

[01:22:39] It's a capital

[01:22:40] So it's animal

[01:22:42] Or a bear

[01:22:43] Instead of an animal or a bear

[01:22:45] Oh yeah

[01:22:46] It's hard to convey

[01:22:47] On screen

[01:22:48] Yeah

[01:22:49] Yes and no

[01:22:50] It's hard to convey the difference

[01:22:51] In terms of people talking

[01:22:53] But

[01:22:55] They kind of

[01:22:55] Make it seem like that

[01:22:57] All animals are intelligent

[01:22:58] In Oz

[01:22:59] In the movie though

[01:23:00] So I guess that's a thing

[01:23:01] You can do

[01:23:03] I mean yeah

[01:23:04] Because you could do CGI

[01:23:06] Anthropomorphic animals

[01:23:07] A heck of a lot easier

[01:23:09] I'm also glad they resisted

[01:23:10] The temptation

[01:23:11] Which I get why you have to do this

[01:23:12] On Broadway

[01:23:12] Because limitations

[01:23:14] To not have the animals

[01:23:16] Like on two legs

[01:23:17] Just looking like

[01:23:19] It didn't look like a goat man

[01:23:21] It looked like a goat

[01:23:22] Dr. Dilliman

[01:23:28] That bothered me

[01:23:29] But also didn't bother me

[01:23:30] At the same time

[01:23:30] I don't know

[01:23:31] I can't explain it

[01:23:32] I don't know why

[01:23:33] You're expecting

[01:23:34] Because you've seen the stage show

[01:23:35] You're expecting

[01:23:37] The goat man

[01:23:38] Yeah

[01:23:39] But instead you just get a

[01:23:40] Instead you just get a goat

[01:23:41] And you're like oh

[01:23:42] And then it sounds like

[01:23:43] Tyrion Lannister

[01:23:44] And you're like oh

[01:23:45] So yeah

[01:23:47] My description of this character

[01:23:48] See I would have pictured

[01:23:50] If you've seen Chronicles

[01:23:51] Of Mr. Tumnus

[01:23:53] Yeah

[01:23:53] That's what I was picturing in my head

[01:23:55] That's a satyr though

[01:23:56] Yeah

[01:23:57] Well you guys are like goat man

[01:23:58] That's what I

[01:23:58] I always heard that character

[01:24:00] Described as a goat man

[01:24:01] I pictured a satyr in my head

[01:24:02] I still do see James McAvoy

[01:24:04] But

[01:24:06] Mr. Tumnus

[01:24:07] I wanted to point out though

[01:24:10] That I also got some stuff

[01:24:12] I got

[01:24:13] I spent $84.95

[01:24:15] By the way

[01:24:17] On your Ulta haul?

[01:24:19] No

[01:24:20] On this movie haul

[01:24:24] Popcorn drinks

[01:24:25] Oh

[01:24:27] Popcorn drinks

[01:24:28] And I got a bucket

[01:24:30] A popcorn bucket

[01:24:31] It has like the

[01:24:33] The movie poster

[01:24:35] Wrapped around it

[01:24:36] And then I had

[01:24:38] What is that?

[01:24:41] I can't tell what that is

[01:24:43] It's a

[01:24:43] It's like a

[01:24:44] Not a Stanley

[01:24:46] But a cup

[01:24:47] Yeah

[01:24:49] What

[01:24:50] Like

[01:24:50] Is it

[01:24:51] Can't tell what the design is

[01:24:53] Oh

[01:24:53] It's all of

[01:24:55] Not Elphaba

[01:24:56] Oh

[01:24:57] Glinda's

[01:24:58] It's all

[01:24:59] Glinda's bags

[01:25:01] That's hilarious

[01:25:02] Yeah

[01:25:02] See you got that much more than I did

[01:25:04] I was like

[01:25:04] It's pink

[01:25:06] It's pink

[01:25:07] Well that's Glinda

[01:25:08] And then it has

[01:25:09] And it has like

[01:25:10] A G

[01:25:12] All over

[01:25:13] Two

[01:25:13] I personally think

[01:25:15] She was telling me about the

[01:25:16] The other one

[01:25:17] The black one

[01:25:18] I think the black one sounds cooler

[01:25:19] That's just me though

[01:25:21] Yeah but

[01:25:23] Two black and green

[01:25:24] It's

[01:25:25] No it's black

[01:25:25] It's all black

[01:25:26] And then like

[01:25:28] You

[01:25:28] And like you know how

[01:25:30] There's like plaid

[01:25:31] Like the

[01:25:31] Like the plaid

[01:25:33] The design

[01:25:34] So the plaid

[01:25:35] The plaid

[01:25:36] The plaid

[01:25:36] Design is like the

[01:25:39] The broom

[01:25:41] And the

[01:25:42] And Glinda's wand

[01:25:44] And an X

[01:25:46] So there's like

[01:25:47] Little tiny

[01:25:48] Tiny ones of those

[01:25:49] And then in

[01:25:50] In between

[01:25:51] Those

[01:25:52] Is a

[01:25:54] W for

[01:25:55] For wicked

[01:25:56] Dude that sounds more

[01:25:57] Aesthetically pleasing to me

[01:25:58] Yeah

[01:25:59] But I like black

[01:26:00] I'm fat of black

[01:26:02] Because you're depressed

[01:26:03] And life is pain

[01:26:05] Yeah

[01:26:06] Sure

[01:26:06] But

[01:26:08] But yeah

[01:26:08] So I spent like

[01:26:10] 84, 95

[01:26:11] Because of

[01:26:12] And I feel like

[01:26:13] The bucket was 60 bucks

[01:26:15] I just don't believe that

[01:26:16] That they can

[01:26:17] How is that possible?

[01:26:17] But you still have to pay for the popcorn?

[01:26:20] Because that'd be some bullshit

[01:26:21] Yeah

[01:26:21] I did

[01:26:23] They could give you the popcorn

[01:26:25] I'm just

[01:26:25] 60 bucks seems

[01:26:27] Like too much money

[01:26:28] And I get

[01:26:29] So most of your

[01:26:30] Your spending went to the bucket

[01:26:32] It sounds like

[01:26:33] But I

[01:26:33] Get free

[01:26:34] I get like two free

[01:26:37] Refills

[01:26:37] Or something like that

[01:26:38] I get free refills

[01:26:39] Of all night bucket

[01:26:41] How much popcorn are you eating?

[01:26:43] So

[01:26:43] So

[01:26:44] The fun thing is

[01:26:46] Is what

[01:26:47] What we're gonna do is

[01:26:48] We're gonna take it

[01:26:49] And every time we go see a movie

[01:26:51] We're gonna take it with us

[01:26:52] And then we're gonna get free

[01:26:54] Refills

[01:26:55] And that'll pay for it

[01:26:56] That then makes sense

[01:26:58] Yes

[01:26:58] That is the thing you should do

[01:26:59] With the commemorative bucket

[01:27:01] That

[01:27:01] And that'll pay for it

[01:27:03] That'll pay for it

[01:27:04] It absolutely will

[01:27:04] That will absolutely

[01:27:06] We pay for it

[01:27:06] So when do we think

[01:27:08] We're gonna get

[01:27:08] The punk version

[01:27:09] Of Defying Gravity

[01:27:10] Because I think it's coming

[01:27:11] And I'm not looking forward to it

[01:27:13] I don't want it

[01:27:14] Please don't

[01:27:14] It already exists

[01:27:16] Does it really?

[01:27:17] What?

[01:27:20] One of the

[01:27:21] Elphabuzz

[01:27:22] Yeah

[01:27:22] She

[01:27:23] The British one

[01:27:24] The one who did the West End

[01:27:25] She did a punk version of it

[01:27:27] So that's just

[01:27:28] I like it

[01:27:29] I can take that

[01:27:30] I just don't want the emo kid

[01:27:31] With the bangs covering his eyes

[01:27:32] Just being like

[01:27:34] Cause now I'm defying gravity

[01:27:37] I'm sorry

[01:27:38] Why are you being offensive?

[01:27:40] Okay

[01:27:40] Why am I being offensive?

[01:27:42] It's a thing

[01:27:42] It's the same kid as like

[01:27:44] Cause tonight will be the night

[01:27:46] That I will fall for you

[01:27:51] It's the

[01:27:51] It's the

[01:27:52] It's not the long version though

[01:27:53] Cause there's the two versions of that song

[01:27:55] There's the version that cuts out all the dialogue

[01:27:58] Yeah they take out the dialogue

[01:28:01] That kid didn't do anything to you Jake

[01:28:02] No that kid has given me

[01:28:05] I will fall for you

[01:28:07] No that kid has provided numerous laughs

[01:28:10] And a hilarious Captain Kirk edit for me

[01:28:12] So thank you

[01:28:13] Whoever you are

[01:28:14] I was that kid

[01:28:15] I was that kid

[01:28:18] You went through an emo phase?

[01:28:20] I mean

[01:28:21] I

[01:28:21] Tell me you have photos

[01:28:23] No

[01:28:24] Not in dress

[01:28:25] But I was big into Evanescence

[01:28:27] Like super big into Evanescence

[01:28:28] Evanescence isn't emo

[01:28:29] Evanescence is nu metal

[01:28:30] That's not the same thing

[01:28:31] I mean

[01:28:32] They're doing the hot topic

[01:28:33] The eye shadow

[01:28:35] Hot topic isn't

[01:28:36] That's

[01:28:37] That's

[01:28:38] That's not the same thing

[01:28:39] However

[01:28:39] Fun fact

[01:28:40] I did this as a joke

[01:28:42] But it turns out the playlist actually exists

[01:28:43] If you have a Google

[01:28:44] Home or whatever

[01:28:46] The thing where you can be like

[01:28:47] Hey Google

[01:28:48] We have one at my office

[01:28:49] And

[01:28:50] We were having fun with it

[01:28:52] And somebody said

[01:28:53] Somebody's like

[01:28:54] Wow they got every kind of playlist

[01:28:55] And I was just like

[01:28:55] I wonder

[01:28:56] And I said

[01:28:56] Hey Google

[01:28:57] Say songs to slit your wrists to

[01:28:59] And it loaded a playlist

[01:29:01] Oh no

[01:29:02] And it's

[01:29:05] It's

[01:29:05] And it's exactly what you think it was

[01:29:08] And I was like

[01:29:09] That's hilarious and disturbing

[01:29:11] All at the same time

[01:29:12] Oh ew

[01:29:13] Ew

[01:29:14] I didn't make it

[01:29:15] It exists

[01:29:16] I know

[01:29:17] But it's still

[01:29:18] Ew

[01:29:19] The internet

[01:29:20] I agree

[01:29:21] I agree

[01:29:22] I was kind of like

[01:29:23] Ooh

[01:29:24] Hmm

[01:29:24] I was just kidding

[01:29:27] Oh my god

[01:29:28] I was just joking

[01:29:30] I was just joking

[01:29:31] I was just joking

[01:29:31] Like are you okay

[01:29:34] Google get help

[01:29:36] Google's been through some shit

[01:29:38] Google's been through some shit

[01:29:42] So actually

[01:29:43] So wicked

[01:29:45] The other thing

[01:29:46] The other thing the movie does

[01:29:48] That the stage play can't

[01:29:49] Is you get close ups of people's faces

[01:29:51] And everyone's

[01:29:53] Everyone's facials in this movie

[01:29:54] Were flawless

[01:29:56] They conveyed so much emotion

[01:29:58] Which again

[01:29:59] Justin like you said

[01:30:00] It's something that only film can do

[01:30:02] Yeah absolutely

[01:30:04] Yeah

[01:30:04] Yeah

[01:30:04] Like it's why I find

[01:30:06] 60s musicals so boring

[01:30:08] Because

[01:30:08] Yeah because they're so far

[01:30:10] Yeah well they're just doing

[01:30:11] The stage musical

[01:30:12] They're like

[01:30:12] What do we do for this

[01:30:13] Just do the stage musical

[01:30:15] It's the same staging

[01:30:16] The same choreography

[01:30:17] Because it was the 1950s and 60s

[01:30:19] They didn't know what to do

[01:30:20] They didn't have the technology

[01:30:21] Now you can

[01:30:22] Now you can fully realize

[01:30:24] What you pictured in your head

[01:30:26] When you

[01:30:27] When you thought

[01:30:27] The hell

[01:30:28] The hell they can't

[01:30:28] We've seen many a close up

[01:30:30] Of sweaty William Shatner

[01:30:31] They absolutely had the technology

[01:30:34] But he

[01:30:34] He is a very moist man

[01:30:38] Boom

[01:30:38] I'm about to fit one in

[01:30:39] There's one

[01:30:41] Close up I wanted to talk about though

[01:30:43] Of Wicked

[01:30:44] That

[01:30:45] It lives in my

[01:30:47] Head

[01:30:47] Rent free

[01:30:48] The one where

[01:30:51] They're singing

[01:30:52] Define Gravity

[01:30:53] And it's

[01:30:53] Ariana

[01:30:54] And

[01:30:55] And

[01:30:56] Cynthia

[01:30:59] There are parts

[01:31:00] That

[01:31:01] That were together

[01:31:03] Oh

[01:31:04] Oh okay

[01:31:05] Yep

[01:31:05] Yeah

[01:31:06] I was gonna say

[01:31:07] Was it the big

[01:31:08] Like panorama shot

[01:31:09] Yeah it's the

[01:31:10] The big pan

[01:31:10] That one

[01:31:12] Chills

[01:31:13] Yeah

[01:31:14] You can't do that on stage

[01:31:15] You can't do that shit on stage

[01:31:16] Nope

[01:31:17] The movie musical

[01:31:18] Should always be bigger

[01:31:19] In scope

[01:31:20] Than the

[01:31:20] Like they should never be the same

[01:31:22] Like

[01:31:22] I don't know

[01:31:24] And

[01:31:25] And

[01:31:25] And it was like

[01:31:26] The light

[01:31:26] Like hit them

[01:31:27] In the face

[01:31:28] And you could like

[01:31:29] See everything

[01:31:30] Like

[01:31:31] Good shit

[01:31:32] Yeah

[01:31:33] The only thing was

[01:31:34] They were

[01:31:34] Which is weird

[01:31:35] Because some moments

[01:31:37] They

[01:31:37] The two actresses

[01:31:38] Obviously had chemistry

[01:31:39] But then there were some

[01:31:40] Scenes

[01:31:41] I'm wondering if it took them a while

[01:31:43] In the shooting schedule

[01:31:44] To kind of

[01:31:45] Get there

[01:31:46] Because some scenes

[01:31:48] It seems like they have

[01:31:48] Zero chemistry at all

[01:31:49] And then in others

[01:31:50] It seems like they're

[01:31:51] Legit best friends

[01:31:52] Yeah probably

[01:31:53] Probably had to

[01:31:54] Spend some time

[01:31:55] Figuring out that relationship

[01:31:56] I'm sure

[01:31:56] And

[01:31:57] And

[01:31:57] And the thing is

[01:31:58] It alternates

[01:31:58] Which

[01:31:59] They're gonna shoot it in order

[01:32:00] So that makes sense

[01:32:01] But

[01:32:01] Yeah

[01:32:03] You know what

[01:32:03] My favorite thing

[01:32:04] My favorite like

[01:32:05] Line of

[01:32:06] Ariana's

[01:32:07] Was

[01:32:07] Was like

[01:32:08] When

[01:32:08] When they're trying to

[01:32:10] Escape the guard

[01:32:11] And like

[01:32:13] They like

[01:32:13] Jump into the

[01:32:15] Into the

[01:32:16] Balloon

[01:32:16] That

[01:32:17] That

[01:32:17] That

[01:32:17] That they go up in

[01:32:18] And like

[01:32:19] One of the guards

[01:32:20] Grabs her

[01:32:20] Like

[01:32:21] Ariana's

[01:32:21] Legs

[01:32:22] And she's like

[01:32:22] Let go of my leg

[01:32:23] Let go of my leg

[01:32:25] So

[01:32:26] Editor Jake

[01:32:27] Would have changed

[01:32:27] One thing

[01:32:28] I think

[01:32:29] They hung on to that bit

[01:32:31] Just a smidge too long

[01:32:32] I think she only had to

[01:32:33] Say it once

[01:32:34] And then kick him away

[01:32:34] Because I

[01:32:35] To me

[01:32:36] It seemed like

[01:32:37] They held on that

[01:32:38] For a little too long

[01:32:39] Did she kick him away

[01:32:41] Or did he let go

[01:32:42] She did

[01:32:42] But she said

[01:32:43] Give me my leg back

[01:32:44] Twice

[01:32:44] And I would have just

[01:32:46] Give me my leg back

[01:32:47] Yeah

[01:32:48] Give me my leg back

[01:32:49] I'm like

[01:32:49] Yeah

[01:32:50] The delivery was great

[01:32:51] But

[01:32:53] She did it twice

[01:32:54] And that's

[01:32:54] That's the only thing

[01:32:55] I would have changed

[01:33:00] So wicked

[01:33:02] So wicked

[01:33:03] I was gonna say too

[01:33:04] Though like

[01:33:04] Five out of five

[01:33:05] Five stars

[01:33:06] That

[01:33:07] That

[01:33:07] Scene

[01:33:08] That whole entire scene

[01:33:09] Though

[01:33:10] Like

[01:33:11] No shade to Elphaba

[01:33:13] But you

[01:33:13] Would have known

[01:33:14] That like

[01:33:15] That balloon

[01:33:16] Was not gonna make it

[01:33:17] Out of the thing

[01:33:19] The thing was closing

[01:33:21] And

[01:33:22] Okay

[01:33:22] So again

[01:33:23] This is one of those things

[01:33:24] Where

[01:33:24] It's not so much a criticism

[01:33:26] It's just me

[01:33:26] Talking about my opinion

[01:33:28] Because I totally understand

[01:33:29] Why they did it

[01:33:30] But

[01:33:30] I

[01:33:31] I would have left the balloon out

[01:33:33] To me

[01:33:34] It was too many moving parts

[01:33:35] And

[01:33:37] But again

[01:33:37] I get why they did it

[01:33:39] It just

[01:33:39] It's not something

[01:33:40] I would have done

[01:33:42] Fair

[01:33:42] But

[01:33:43] I also

[01:33:44] I also

[01:33:45] But I also don't

[01:33:46] I'm not a director in Hollywood

[01:33:47] So

[01:33:47] Fuck my opinion right

[01:33:48] Yeah

[01:33:49] There's a reason why

[01:33:50] I'm doing this

[01:33:50] And they're doing that

[01:33:51] So what do I

[01:33:52] I mean

[01:33:52] I mean

[01:33:52] You know

[01:33:53] Fair enough

[01:33:53] It's like

[01:33:54] Every time

[01:33:54] My hatred of Robert Pattinson

[01:33:56] Comes up

[01:33:56] I always say the same thing

[01:33:57] I'm like

[01:33:58] Why do you care

[01:33:59] He doesn't know I exist

[01:34:01] A couple more things

[01:34:02] A couple more things though too

[01:34:03] Is like

[01:34:04] The

[01:34:04] The

[01:34:06] The

[01:34:07] There was a line

[01:34:08] In the beginning

[01:34:08] Of

[01:34:10] Of like

[01:34:10] The first scene

[01:34:11] Or

[01:34:11] Oh no

[01:34:12] Like the

[01:34:13] The nearish

[01:34:14] End of the first scene

[01:34:15] Where like

[01:34:16] She's about to leave

[01:34:17] And

[01:34:18] She

[01:34:19] And

[01:34:19] And she was like

[01:34:21] Like

[01:34:22] Um

[01:34:23] Okay

[01:34:24] Thank you

[01:34:25] Um

[01:34:25] If no

[01:34:26] No

[01:34:27] No further questions

[01:34:28] I'm gonna go

[01:34:29] And then she

[01:34:30] Gets into her bubble

[01:34:31] And the one little kid goes

[01:34:33] Wait

[01:34:34] Wait

[01:34:35] Was it true

[01:34:36] That

[01:34:36] That

[01:34:37] That you two

[01:34:37] Were friends

[01:34:38] And

[01:34:38] And

[01:34:39] She

[01:34:40] And she

[01:34:40] Was like

[01:34:41] What

[01:34:41] I can't hear you

[01:34:42] And she

[01:34:43] Pops the bubble

[01:34:44] And she's like

[01:34:44] Oh

[01:34:45] Just wait a minute

[01:34:46] And pops the bubble

[01:34:47] Wait a minute

[01:34:47] Yeah I did like that

[01:34:50] That was fun

[01:34:52] That was fun

[01:34:54] So today's episode

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[01:34:57] Podcast everybody

[01:34:58] Come join us

[01:34:59] Every Saturday

[01:35:00] We're gonna do this

[01:35:01] We're gonna sit here

[01:35:02] We're gonna talk about

[01:35:03] The news

[01:35:03] Time to talk about

[01:35:04] Minecraft

[01:35:06] Okay

[01:35:06] It looks bad

[01:35:08] We're gonna talk about

[01:35:09] Movies

[01:35:09] That new Joker movie

[01:35:10] Is apparently terrible

[01:35:11] And I wanna see it

[01:35:12] So badly

[01:35:13] Play here

[01:35:13] It's awful

[01:35:14] We're gonna make some jokes

[01:35:15] We're gonna have some laughs

[01:35:16] There's a lot of funny jokes in there

[01:35:18] There's a lot of weird jokes in there

[01:35:22] The Channing Tatum one

[01:35:23] Will always make me laugh

[01:35:26] Especially when you hear

[01:35:27] When you hear the behind the scenes stuff

[01:35:30] Like

[01:35:30] When you hear the behind the scenes story

[01:35:32] Of how they just phoned him up

[01:35:34] Occasionally gonna have other people

[01:35:36] Along for the ride

[01:35:37] A really fun fact though

[01:35:38] Is

[01:35:38] I learned last year

[01:35:40] That

[01:35:40] Like

[01:35:41] That

[01:35:42] That

[01:35:43] That

[01:35:43] Coraline was

[01:35:43] Like

[01:35:44] And not

[01:35:44] Disney

[01:35:45] Oh interesting

[01:35:46] I mean I can see why you would make that

[01:35:47] Yeah

[01:35:48] Cause it does seem like

[01:35:50] It's a different

[01:35:51] I

[01:35:51] And to be fair

[01:35:52] That would be a

[01:35:54] That would be a horrifying

[01:35:56] Terrible

[01:35:57] Disney movie

[01:35:58] It would be

[01:35:58] Yeah

[01:35:59] And we're just gonna have

[01:36:01] Have a generally good time

[01:36:02] Jordan

[01:36:03] Do you have anything else you wanna say

[01:36:04] About our podcast

[01:36:05] Make people watch it

[01:36:06] We watch movies

[01:36:08] Sometimes we watch shows

[01:36:10] But we always have fun

[01:36:12] Here

[01:36:13] On the spur

[01:36:14] On the spur

[01:36:15] On the spur

[01:36:15] On the spur

[01:36:16] Three

[01:36:17] Three

[01:36:17] Two

[01:36:18] One

[01:36:19] On the spur of the podcast

[01:36:21] Moment

[01:36:22] Yeah we nailed it

[01:36:24] Nailed it

[01:36:25] Yeah

[01:36:26] Yeah

[01:36:27] Yeah

[01:36:27] It spur of the podcast

[01:36:28] Every Saturday

[01:36:29] We nailed it

[01:36:30] You can expect

[01:36:31] Awesome content like that

[01:36:33] We cut

[01:36:34] Flawless promos

[01:36:35] Every single week

[01:36:45] The Wicked

[01:36:46] The Wicked

[01:36:47] The Wicked

[01:36:49] And

[01:36:49] Hey it's better than The Wiz

[01:36:52] Hey

[01:36:53] Oh we forgot

[01:36:53] We forgot about The Wiz

[01:36:55] That's a thing that happened

[01:36:56] That's pretty good

[01:36:56] No I didn't like The Wiz

[01:37:00] I will

[01:37:01] As much as I love

[01:37:02] James Earl Jones

[01:37:02] And

[01:37:04] Justin can

[01:37:05] Protest to that

[01:37:05] Cause we did an episode on that

[01:37:07] When

[01:37:07] After he died

[01:37:08] Was he in that?

[01:37:08] Was he in The Wiz?

[01:37:09] But he was in The Wiz

[01:37:10] He was in The Wiz

[01:37:11] I believe he was in The Wiz

[01:37:13] That's the one

[01:37:14] That's the one

[01:37:14] Am I thinking of the same one?

[01:37:15] That's the one with Michael Jackson

[01:37:16] Right?

[01:37:17] Where he plays the scarecrow

[01:37:21] My

[01:37:21] My

[01:37:21] My

[01:37:22] My

[01:37:22] He was in The Wiz

[01:37:23] Or he was

[01:37:24] Yeah

[01:37:25] Michael Jackson

[01:37:25] He plays the scarecrow

[01:37:26] In The Wiz

[01:37:27] Doesn't he?

[01:37:27] The movie version?

[01:37:29] I think so

[01:37:30] Yeah

[01:37:30] But he was

[01:37:33] But he was

[01:37:34] In

[01:37:34] The musical

[01:37:35] James Earl Jones

[01:37:36] I believe

[01:37:37] Oh the

[01:37:38] You mean the

[01:37:38] The stage musical

[01:37:40] Yeah the stage musical

[01:37:41] Oh

[01:37:41] Okay okay okay

[01:37:43] I was like

[01:37:43] They're in the movie together

[01:37:44] What?

[01:37:45] No

[01:37:45] I'm never actually seeing it

[01:37:46] I just know that

[01:37:47] Michael Jackson is in it

[01:37:49] It's like one of the few

[01:37:50] Yeah

[01:37:50] One of the few things

[01:37:51] That

[01:37:52] I

[01:37:52] I went through a spree

[01:37:53] Where I watched a bunch of his short films

[01:37:54] Some of which were good

[01:37:57] If I

[01:37:58] Only had

[01:38:01] Yeah

[01:38:03] Come on

[01:38:03] When we talked about Captain EO

[01:38:06] I quite like Captain EO

[01:38:07] Yeah he did a really good one

[01:38:08] Where he plays like a

[01:38:09] A weird town pariah

[01:38:11] Who turns into a ghost at the end

[01:38:12] It's actually pretty good

[01:38:15] So wicked

[01:38:16] There was a whole bunch of points

[01:38:18] That I wanted to make

[01:38:19] That I'm probably not gonna be able to

[01:38:20] Be able to make

[01:38:22] No please go for it

[01:38:24] Go for it

[01:38:24] We will only respond

[01:38:26] Yeah yeah

[01:38:27] You

[01:38:27] What

[01:38:28] What if it gets too long

[01:38:30] Well if it gets too long

[01:38:31] Sorry

[01:38:34] Shut up you asshole

[01:38:36] Um

[01:38:41] So

[01:38:43] Can I cover your mouth

[01:38:44] Um

[01:38:50] So

[01:38:51] There was

[01:38:55] One other point

[01:38:56] I wanted to make about

[01:38:58] About

[01:38:59] Ariana

[01:38:59] And Ophopa

[01:39:00] Like

[01:39:03] I

[01:39:05] Don't agree with you

[01:39:06] About the chemistry

[01:39:06] I feel like the chemistry

[01:39:07] Was always there

[01:39:12] I'm not trying to

[01:39:13] Like

[01:39:13] Argue with you

[01:39:14] Or defend what I was saying

[01:39:15] It's just

[01:39:16] I guess

[01:39:17] That's just

[01:39:18] Different levels of perception

[01:39:19] And I will be

[01:39:20] To be fair

[01:39:21] To the movie

[01:39:22] At the very early part

[01:39:24] I was looking

[01:39:25] For things to nitpick

[01:39:27] So

[01:39:28] But very quickly

[01:39:29] I just became

[01:39:30] Like enthralled in the movie

[01:39:31] And I was like

[01:39:33] No

[01:39:33] No

[01:39:33] I became not the problem

[01:39:34] Very quickly in the movie

[01:39:35] Because

[01:39:36] I was like

[01:39:37] Oh okay

[01:39:37] No I'm being an ass

[01:39:39] I need to

[01:39:39] Give this movie

[01:39:40] A fair chance

[01:39:40] And then

[01:39:42] Sometimes when you're

[01:39:43] Watching a movie

[01:39:43] You have to be like

[01:39:43] It's not that kind of movie

[01:39:44] Like that's what I find

[01:39:46] In a way

[01:39:46] The thing is

[01:39:47] It was that kind of movie

[01:39:48] Um

[01:39:49] It was just really

[01:39:50] Really

[01:39:50] It was just really

[01:39:51] Really good

[01:39:51] Like

[01:39:52] Sometimes the thing

[01:39:53] This is so good

[01:39:54] You're willing to look

[01:39:55] Past the flaws

[01:39:56] That's what I'm saying

[01:39:57] Though

[01:39:57] There weren't

[01:39:58] Really that many flaws

[01:39:59] And the flaws

[01:40:00] That it did have

[01:40:01] Were not necessarily flaws

[01:40:02] They were just

[01:40:03] Different choices

[01:40:03] That maybe

[01:40:04] I wouldn't have made

[01:40:06] Or been my preference

[01:40:06] But I wouldn't go so far

[01:40:07] As to say they were bad

[01:40:08] Because like

[01:40:09] Nothing in that movie

[01:40:10] Is bad

[01:40:11] Nothing was a glaring mistake

[01:40:13] I didn't hate

[01:40:14] I didn't hate

[01:40:15] The part

[01:40:16] I didn't hate

[01:40:17] I mean I loved

[01:40:18] I loved it

[01:40:19] But like I also

[01:40:19] Didn't like

[01:40:20] I was confused

[01:40:22] By like

[01:40:22] The part where

[01:40:24] Like she

[01:40:24] Um

[01:40:25] Like

[01:40:26] Her sister

[01:40:28] Her sister

[01:40:29] Nessa Rose

[01:40:30] She gets

[01:40:31] She's being

[01:40:32] Taken away

[01:40:32] And like

[01:40:33] And Elphaba

[01:40:34] Like

[01:40:34] Screams no

[01:40:36] And like

[01:40:36] Uses her powers

[01:40:38] I didn't particularly

[01:40:39] Love the whole

[01:40:40] Chairs flying

[01:40:41] Too

[01:40:42] And everything

[01:40:44] Yeah

[01:40:44] That's a good point

[01:40:45] Um

[01:40:47] I think

[01:40:48] Personally for me

[01:40:49] I would

[01:40:49] That would fall

[01:40:50] Under a category

[01:40:50] Of again

[01:40:52] Where I wouldn't

[01:40:53] Have done it

[01:40:53] And also

[01:40:54] The bit where

[01:40:55] Madame Morrible

[01:40:55] Takes credit for it

[01:40:57] Yeah

[01:40:58] I'm just kind of like

[01:40:59] Why

[01:40:59] I don't get

[01:41:00] The why

[01:41:01] And there's a couple

[01:41:02] Of other scenes

[01:41:03] Where Elphaba

[01:41:04] Shows her powers

[01:41:05] But we've already

[01:41:06] Established that she

[01:41:07] Has powers

[01:41:08] So it's just

[01:41:08] Kind of like

[01:41:09] It feels like

[01:41:10] Time filler

[01:41:10] But it's not so

[01:41:12] Glaringly bad

[01:41:13] That it sticks out

[01:41:14] Because it is

[01:41:15] Furthering the plot

[01:41:16] It's just stuff

[01:41:17] That isn't really

[01:41:19] Like if this

[01:41:20] Those scenes

[01:41:21] Are scenes where

[01:41:22] If they were taken

[01:41:22] Out of the movie

[01:41:23] They wouldn't

[01:41:24] Take away from

[01:41:24] The story at large

[01:41:25] But they do add

[01:41:26] Some extra

[01:41:27] Weight

[01:41:28] I guess

[01:41:28] I don't think

[01:41:30] That she

[01:41:30] And I don't think

[01:41:31] That Madame

[01:41:31] Morrible takes

[01:41:32] Credit in the

[01:41:34] Not that I

[01:41:35] Not that I recall

[01:41:36] It's pretty clear

[01:41:36] And the other thing

[01:41:37] So correct me

[01:41:38] If I'm wrong

[01:41:38] In this

[01:41:38] This way

[01:41:39] Elphaba is

[01:41:39] Attending university

[01:41:41] With Nessa Rose

[01:41:42] In the movie

[01:41:44] They make it

[01:41:45] Well they don't

[01:41:46] Make it seem like

[01:41:47] They flat out

[01:41:47] State that

[01:41:48] She's not

[01:41:48] Supposed to stay

[01:41:49] But then because

[01:41:50] She has magic

[01:41:51] Madame Morrible's

[01:41:52] Like

[01:41:52] Oh

[01:41:53] You must stay

[01:41:54] I did want to

[01:41:58] Bring up to

[01:41:58] One point

[01:41:59] And I don't know

[01:42:01] If you

[01:42:03] Kind of

[01:42:04] Realized the

[01:42:05] Theme

[01:42:06] That

[01:42:06] Is like

[01:42:07] There was like

[01:42:08] An ongoing theme

[01:42:09] When it

[01:42:10] When it came to

[01:42:11] Like

[01:42:13] Really the whole

[01:42:15] Movie

[01:42:15] And but

[01:42:16] But but

[01:42:17] But especially

[01:42:18] The scene where

[01:42:19] Like she

[01:42:20] Is like

[01:42:21] Where

[01:42:21] Elphaba grabs

[01:42:22] The

[01:42:22] The Grimmery

[01:42:24] And runs off

[01:42:25] And then

[01:42:25] Madame

[01:42:25] Morble

[01:42:27] Is spreading

[01:42:28] These lies

[01:42:30] Would you say

[01:42:31] That it

[01:42:32] Kind of hits

[01:42:33] Home a little

[01:42:34] Bit with

[01:42:34] Current events

[01:42:36] I mean

[01:42:37] That's always

[01:42:37] Been the case

[01:42:38] Because even

[01:42:38] When Wicked

[01:42:39] Came out

[01:42:40] That that's

[01:42:41] Part of the

[01:42:41] Reason why

[01:42:41] It's such a

[01:42:42] Good story

[01:42:42] Is because

[01:42:43] The themes

[01:42:43] Are universal

[01:42:44] There are

[01:42:45] More

[01:42:45] Periods in

[01:42:46] Time

[01:42:47] Where

[01:42:48] Might be

[01:42:49] A little

[01:42:49] Bit more

[01:42:50] In in

[01:42:52] The cultural

[01:42:52] Zeitgeist

[01:42:53] But

[01:42:53] I think

[01:42:56] That

[01:42:58] Right now

[01:42:58] Yeah

[01:42:59] I can see

[01:42:59] That

[01:43:00] Definitely

[01:43:01] Today

[01:43:01] But the

[01:43:02] Weird thing

[01:43:03] Is

[01:43:03] Or the

[01:43:04] Concerning

[01:43:05] Thing is

[01:43:05] I should

[01:43:06] Say

[01:43:06] Is

[01:43:06] Both

[01:43:07] Sides

[01:43:08] Can view

[01:43:08] It that

[01:43:08] Way

[01:43:09] And that's

[01:43:09] What's

[01:43:09] Really scary

[01:43:10] To me

[01:43:12] Because both

[01:43:13] Sides

[01:43:13] Constantly

[01:43:14] Claim

[01:43:14] That the

[01:43:15] Other

[01:43:15] Side

[01:43:15] Is

[01:43:15] Spreading

[01:43:15] Lies

[01:43:16] And it's

[01:43:16] Like well

[01:43:16] Maybe you're

[01:43:17] All

[01:43:17] Pieces of

[01:43:18] Shit

[01:43:18] Yeah

[01:43:19] You're

[01:43:20] All

[01:43:20] All

[01:43:21] Lying

[01:43:22] Elphaba

[01:43:23] Is not

[01:43:24] Elphaba

[01:43:24] I'm not

[01:43:24] Talking about

[01:43:26] Elphaba

[01:43:26] I'm talking about

[01:43:27] The Democrats

[01:43:27] And the

[01:43:28] Republicans

[01:43:28] Oh okay

[01:43:29] Well