Part of your Broadway World Podcast(S3E2)|All that glitters ( talks with Nicole of designer dust co)

[00:00:06] Hello everybody and welcome to today's episode of the Part of your Broadway World Podcast. My name is Haley and today we are welcome, but we welcome Nicole from the designer dust co designer dust co. She's going to talk about some of the of the glitter glitter she creates

[00:00:45] and she's actually show us some so let's welcome her in. There we go that should be good let me make sure my headphones are on. There we go. Okay. Hi. Good morning. How are you doing good? Good morning.

[00:01:12] Definitely I had to edit and release a episode which is out in like an hour or so. There you go there you go. I was really stressed because I woke up at eight o'clock and we had our interview at 1130.

[00:01:32] So it's like I really got to like move, move, move. Hey, I feel that because once I'm done with this I wake up my kid and they go take her to daycare so I can go do work today because I'm not in my office for the next week.

[00:01:45] Fun. Oh yeah. So, so how are you? I am good. I'm ready. I'm excited to talk about all this stuff because I think it's, it's a fun place where I haven't

[00:01:59] gotten to really express kind of in a longer form why I was able to like marry the business with my passions for theater and like when I mentioned I was a theater nerd on one

[00:02:12] of my videos people like no way I'm like are you kidding me and then I realized oh you guys don't know me a real life you guys don't know how much of like a weird theater nerd I am like I'm like the nerdy little details. Yeah, yeah.

[00:02:25] I am a theater nerd as well like this is that's why I created this podcast actually because like yeah. You can see in the background I got all my cards. I know I have all of my playbills sitting right next to my TV I have a big Broadway

[00:02:41] blanket and then in my entry hallway I have my autograph posters from the original Broadway cast of Spring Awakening and then I have almost the original Broadway cast of Next to Normal. My Broadway blanket. They're comfortable they're easy they're just like. Yeah, they're very comfortable.

[00:03:01] I wanted to put this like in the background to like and hang in the background but there's like no way without blocking everything else. Yeah you'd have to get like clips and do them on the wall but then you lose like a lot of light things like that.

[00:03:15] Yeah, so do each your own. Oh well. Exactly. So, so talk to us about what designer Dustco is. So designer Dustco was a company I kind of started offhand about seven ish years ago

[00:03:36] and I've been working as a hair and makeup artist and I wanted to I was creating a lot of like fandom mostly like Disney adult fandom stuff and I had done some glitters just because I had used a couple other companies and they were really

[00:03:50] expensive and you can only get them at like certain places and which is ironic that you can only get us our site right now but my problem was that it always felt like really out of obtainable as far as the glitter goes because I

[00:04:03] always wanted something that's really fun and chunky and then the pandemic hit and I was like well I don't know what to do because my entire instrument was closed out. There was no foreseeable future of one hair and makeup was going to be coming

[00:04:15] back so I started doing fandom cups online and then my friends like you should bring back the glitters. I was like I don't know. So I shared it on social media once and everyone's like please. So we started out small and then I put together our 24 palette which

[00:04:31] was very similar to another brand's different color clips but ours was more really chunky blend because I wanted it to be more aimed towards theater kids, cheerleaders, dancers, young adults. I didn't want it to have that like unattainable feel to it.

[00:04:46] That's always been a huge thing for me was to making sure that our brand felt very approachable and you could be used from like really simple looks and like ours more subtle shades to like the really fun avant-garde stuff.

[00:04:59] That blew up then we were in Teen Vogue and it changed my life completely and I just kind of went full steam ahead and so for the past really three years I've been doing this pretty much as my main job and I am making, designing,

[00:05:19] shipping every single product of like glitter that we make in-house. So and it's a really fun process because not only do I have to see what people want and I'm actively listening to feedback of like hey this glitter feels

[00:05:35] a little weird like maybe need some filler into it or I really wish we had this color. I'm always listening to that because that's been a huge part of building this brand has been listening to what people want and what people need.

[00:05:47] The reason we came out with our micros was because of a need from a theatrical company they wanted micros. I was like okay we can do that, that's not a problem. So I've been kind of curating this go-to glitter company for people of all different walks

[00:06:02] of life and it's become truly my pride and my joy something I love. It's connected me back to my roots from theater and cheer and dance and also expanded it more into more television film as well as the like influencer makeup artistry

[00:06:21] industry as well. So that's kind of where everything has been but in short like the TLDR what we are we make self-lead use of glitter gels of 160 colors that can be used from every day to on stage.

[00:06:39] And can you explain like what like the gels are because yeah for just for the people that don't really know what yeah that's what they are especially because so I like when I came across your page on tip talk this is the first time I ever

[00:06:55] realized that gel could be used for makeup the glitter could be a makeup. So what our glitter gels are I don't add me like crazy alcohols or preservatives or wild scents or anything sense it's a very clean aloe vera

[00:07:09] style face and we add in cosmetic great glitter so we sell them in our little 10 gram jars usually they'll have a sticker with the label on these I just pulled a bunch of them

[00:07:17] that I'm getting ready for orders and then for my personal collection that has the logo on the front and you basically they have an internal seal that helps keep them fresh and if they do

[00:07:28] ever dry out you can reactivate it with just some aloe you may have at home or setting spray if you want to use distilled water it's easy.

[00:07:36] And all you do is I have a little bit on right now I have one of our micros I'm just going to take a little bit of fun to look at this.

[00:07:43] This is my personal one you just take it and you just have it on and we designed ones that will be really good for like daytime so many people who will wear it.

[00:07:54] Daytime to work we have the micros which are good for more like the subtle looks we have the chunkies which are really good for ravers we have an entire collection of black light we do

[00:08:04] have some biodegradable but the problem with biodegradable glitters is the many put them into a gel they start to break down so it gets dummy but they just it's a really subtle way of creating a clean base sparkly look.

[00:08:18] Now if glitter is not your thing because you're very environmentally friendly do have the bio blends which are biodegradable glitter and they come with a jar of our gel base that you

[00:08:28] can basically use as a glue or we have a peel off glitter glue which that has been one of our number one sellers for anybody in theater is the peel off glitter glue because every

[00:08:36] theater artist I know every true their every dancer every performer they always hate removing makeup and glitter at the end of the night they're like I use tape and then I'm like well that's a

[00:08:46] lot of adhesive and pulling on your skin versus we have a polyvinyl alcohol peel off glue that you can put for energy means in that way peel it off at the end of the night to render it in trash.

[00:08:56] That's actually really smart it's really smart the the peel off glue is so smart. That's one of the biggest ones that we get for a lot of our theater people is they'll usually get the

[00:09:07] micros and then the peel off glitter glue because they're like this just it's it's a game changer. Yeah, you can also put it underneath your eye shadow and then at the end of the night you just peel that off as well.

[00:09:17] Yeah yeah that does seem like a game changer it definitely it saves time. Oh absolutely. Yeah speaking of shows that that you said you told me that like there are some companies that you had used it.

[00:09:36] Yeah, I can talk a little bit about this it's been it was a very organic process of how it happened but we have been supplying the national tours the Broadway production and we supplied the Toronto production and we did also send some to the UK production of

[00:09:53] the musical. It all happened by chance because I wanted to go see the show because it looks really interesting and fun.

[00:10:00] I think my dad had made an off-homance be like why are they why aren't more shows running your glitter because like that's your background I was like I don't know.

[00:10:07] So I ended up going to the last night of the national tour opening in Las Vegas for six and I was like you know what I'm going to bring them glitter just as a fun little like welcome to Vegas I know you're

[00:10:20] starting off the tour list right off of the bank. They all lost it like wait a minute this is so cool because I know for a fact that they have to use Mac that's a show that's

[00:10:29] contracted with Mac makeup it's in their programs most shows are usually contracted with like Mac or Inglot or Ben and I so I was like even if they're not using

[00:10:38] another show like I just want them to help on that. Then all of a sudden we started getting messages being like hey we really like this and then I got probably it was one

[00:10:49] of those notifications there's like very few notifications I get in my life and I'm like oh my God this changed my life. Gabrielle Slade who is the costume designer for six who I believe won the Tony Award for six musicals costume design followed me on social media

[00:11:04] and she's like we love the glitters love pretty to send that some to the UK and I about poop my pants because like there's no way this is happening finally I'm able to marry

[00:11:16] a musical theater with what I do because I went to school for theater I went to school in New York for acting and although I was like I'm probably never going to get on stage I did a lot more stage management and I did a lot of behind the scenes

[00:11:29] stuff and then that's why I got into hair and makeup. It was just this light bulb moment I was like this is an avenue that I don't think anybody else is jumping into head first into

[00:11:40] because there are a lot of with the exception I probably will say like Ben Nye who is known as like a stage makeup company. There are very few cosmetic companies who their primary focus like

[00:11:52] Kryolan and there are a lot of like stage based makeup but there are very few consumer facing makeup products of the product say to see like an Ulta or a Sephora or like a wall grains or a Walmart who yes they're very like customer

[00:12:07] facing but they're not focusing also on the theatrics and the artistry element of it so this was kind of a light bulb moment of this is something that I don't see a lot of other brands doing why don't we lean into this.

[00:12:19] So we started leaning into it more I started posting things about if you needed glitter for your theater company and then we have actors and actresses reach out to us, we have a lot of drag queens who have used us we went to drag on a couple years ago, and I connect with so many drag

[00:12:35] queens because they are performing almost every day it feels like and you want to create those relationships with performers, because the performers are what get you into the stage show essentially for things like that and that's exactly

[00:12:49] what happens next is that we hand glitters for Queens, and then back onto the higher ups and that got to the higher ups and then they're like yeah we want to play disorders and it just.

[00:13:00] I'm still forever grateful I know that we're not the only company that they use, but we're forever grateful that we were able to create such an incredible relationship with all of the queens across the world to help us kind of start that journey.

[00:13:15] And you actually brought some glitters.

[00:13:19] I did. So I, I went through not only like what some of the Tony winners would be so I have my little list of like what the Tony glitters would be the Tony word winners would be with their blitters but I did bring some of the ones that we do use for six as well.

[00:13:35] So I have a nice little sort of. And it kind of depends we will then curate not only like bundles of colors where it's like okay, we have and please stuff like red blacks and like usually a burgundy of some kind.

[00:13:52] But I would also create like maybe a mini palette so if you're in a show, you could do someone like that, but let's for example.

[00:14:00] Kevin our brand pink everybody knows that hot bubblegum pink outfit with a big ponytail bubblegum Bay, which is one of our favorites for her, but it was actually D. D Romero believe it's being a Romero today.

[00:14:13] D was the one who actually started using a different shade for it. And it opened my eyes and the possibilities like undertones and things like that. Did he started using disco pants micro which is a like rose gold and purple.

[00:14:27] And it kind of just pop everything off so I will listen to these actors and these performers and they are telling me, hey my costume has these undertones of this and I have this undertone of my makeup.

[00:14:38] As far as like my skin tone what do you think would work for me and I love curating that.

[00:14:42] We have silver like Jane Seymour where silver. So we went with mirror mirror which comes in a chunky, which is our traditional style of micro which is that super super small glitter, and then like a flaky can steady style glitter as well.

[00:14:56] And then every time we would send out a color I always want to make sure you want to send out an ear desk as well, because sometimes maybe they want to do a lot of with my eyeliner and they don't want to do a lot of glitter, but they still have to wear a little sparkle so

[00:15:06] I'll do one of our ear desk and some like this is Daybreak which has that blue orange shift to it so this actually works for both mostly worked for Catherine par.

[00:15:19] And then I sometimes would give this one also to it kind of depends dependent on which way it was because, especially with a lot of shows there, thankfully is a lot more color blind casting happening.

[00:15:32] So I'm able to kind of curate the bundle depending on. Okay, we have four people playing this role one is black one is Asian one is white one is Southeast Asian. What can I do and they'll have the same main colors but I'll pick a different ear desk for them, just because I wanted to master their

[00:15:47] symptoms and I don't want to look at you on stage. So right.

[00:15:53] Yeah, and then if you want we can go through all the I wrote down. One of the things I love to do is I talk about like Tony award winners as winners with a fun little challenge for myself I like to do challenges like that to kind of force myself to think outside of box so

[00:16:08] let me go ever a dead list this is what I do with all of my friends is like when we're like, I need this team as well I'm like, you got it. So, Mary Lee we roll along which I'm so glad for getting a pro shot of because I know we had the pro shot of London cast but

[00:16:25] I feel like the trio of Dan Jonathan and Lindsay is. Oh, I will never. Oh, I died when I saw that they were doing a project I'm like, yes.

[00:16:36] I was like, thank God. So, because it is more of a 70 style show I did want to go with more like a mutually brown so I ended up picking ship this, which is a. It's a weird saying but it's like a champagne and brown. So,

[00:16:53] it's really pretty. And it kind of fits the vibes of the aesthetics of the scenery as well so a lot of times when I don't necessarily have a costume to go off of or things like that I'll go off the score or play bell because I live in Vegas I don't get to see a lot of shows anymore when I live in New York that was a whole different

[00:17:09] whole different ballpark. What did I do next with sweet dreams. I'm not sweet dreams next I did note a notebook which is sweet dreams hold on one second.

[00:17:19] So next I decided to go with the notebook which criminally criminally not nominated for nearly enough to see an honestly angry microphone is songwriter our generation. And I ended up going actually with our newest shape it's called cold lunge which makes sense for a whole different reason.

[00:17:39] I'm not sure what it's like to think of is if I'm a birdie or bird, which is a like bluish silver. It still has a little bit of rainbow to it. I was thinking to myself, yeah that is gorgeous.

[00:17:52] What I also thought about is how would this look on the main actor skin right and she has.

[00:17:58] First of all, she's a former cap and par. So I was like, oh I know I can rock water country flakes with her because that's one of the ones that they were show but I was just like I wanted to do something kind of fun and blue.

[00:18:08] I wanted sweet dreams for the notebook. Now the outsiders when it comes to doing a mostly math feeling show. I don't have a lot of math glitters which people will call man glitter. I'm like that's not what that is, but because it is kind of more of a dark and grungy show and also because

[00:18:25] I do know the book because we all read it in high school.

[00:18:28] So we're going to start going with our shade stormy vibe stormy vibes is really fun because it has this dark grungy look to it but it has this really beautiful reflect, which I'm hoping you can catch but there's a purple reflecting that.

[00:18:40] Yep, I see that actually got little lightning bolts in there as well. So very much is like reminiscent of the wrong ball. For a show like that I want to take a moment to kind of be capillary glare, which I thought was fun.

[00:18:55] Let's go with stuff. So machine title who I think is adorable and I think it's the next limo Miranda and I hope that she gets the well handed to her on a platter because I think she's incredible.

[00:19:08] I ended up going with the purple. I wanted without like suffer jet purple and I wanted something that was a little bit richer and more deep and kind of like grounded. So I actually went with a shade called incantation, which is this beautiful beautiful dark purple.

[00:19:23] You'll see there's a little bit of a pink reflect to it.

[00:19:27] So it's funny, I'm just actually one of my mom designed because my mom designed some of my glitters with me sometimes, so she's going to use to work out of our garage. She would come in and be like, I want to do that.

[00:19:39] And I'm like, okay, let's go to let's go to Hell's Kitchen with our best actress winner, which her speech was adorable. I the fact that that was her Broadway debut and she ended up winning.

[00:19:49] I love that for her so, so much. All right, we're going to go with a very it's a very New York bodega colors that I like to say this is hot tamale and it looks like hot cheetos, which you're like, Oh, that feels kind of pointed out like well Hell's Kitchen first of all.

[00:20:06] Secondly, if you look at the colors of the label except for yellow and orange and like sunset, and it's more of a matter of which just kind of felt right. So, I love this one of my we used to be called.

[00:20:21] It used to be called solar flare and then somebody was working for like, Oh, it looks like hot cheetos.

[00:20:28] I was like, that's kind of perfect. Like it's kind of like a hot tamale is like, that's a better name to describe that she and I will say, once we change the name of it, it starts to sell more which is really fun.

[00:20:39] We talked about the shade a little bit when it comes to those like shows that are very much in a time page so with Merrily was 1970s as well.

[00:20:50] Or not, not 1970s but it was a show that premier in the 70s. Stereophonic is the same way as 70s inspired show and I was like if I don't pay for it, I'm silly disco pants so that's what it looks like.

[00:21:03] And it kind of gives me very much sitting in a grungy sitting in a grungy like recording studio vibe so that's why I picked it for that one.

[00:21:13] Illinois is this one is very special to me this is a dance piece I am a big city on Sweden Sam. I love dance musicals I think there needs to be more of them every year. And let me just say that about Illinois real quick.

[00:21:26] This was the first time I ever heard of Illinois. It was during the time and then during the Tonys and that performance I cried. It was beautiful at that performance I lost it.

[00:21:42] I, I think that there needs to be a best dance musical category because I think that there needs to be more dance pieces on Broadway.

[00:21:49] And honestly, I think that that's what they're nice way in the same way that I know we I believe there is a best choreography Tony.

[00:21:57] The fact that there is not a best hair and makeup Tony is criminal I know that they are fighting for it and that there are members of the union who are putting out positions.

[00:22:05] So if you see any of the local hair and makeup union members talking about that, please go support them because that is a very, very important thing I need to be recognized on stage.

[00:22:16] So, but talking about Illinois is again dance musical I wanted to have that whimsy element to it. So I ended up going with mama sparkles magic. And it just looks like a butterfly wing. That was beautiful. I love that has these beautiful little stars in it.

[00:22:33] And I just felt like it would catch so well. So, that's another one that my mom actually designed is one of our most popular shades, which makes me very happy. Let's go into water for elephants. So water for elephants is a hard show. I read the book.

[00:22:52] I've seen the movie. I loved the book. Loved the movie. I thought they were incredible.

[00:22:59] Which shows like this because yes it's very flashy, but not in the same way that like a great showman is where you could like easily put a very carefully of like what do I think would work best for show like this.

[00:23:14] I ended up going with a glitter that had a lot more map in it, which is called Viva La Zebra. And this one also was inspired kind of a little bit by the musical city of angels.

[00:23:25] It was inspired a little bit by I think there was an actual show I don't think it was something like the city of angels but there was a show that was on showtime. That this reminded me of it's very like 1940s Los Angeles that like art deco movement.

[00:23:42] So it's an iridescent with these black and white polka dots in it, which felt very clown and circus like so I was very very excited about that one. And this is one that yes could be used by men and women, but it also it felt grungy circus.

[00:23:57] I gotta tell you though too with a water filth and slag. I haven't seen the movie and I haven't read the book so I am totally unfamiliar with it. I'm really confused by the performance in.

[00:24:11] Yeah, I I a lot of people who have seen the show they're like that wasn't the best number for them to do.

[00:24:16] Which I'm like, how do you pick what scene like I'm thinking of it from a book and I'm really respect them like what scene do I think is so iconic.

[00:24:26] And I'm like that's a really hard one to do I think medley styling is the best way like they did with Hell's Kitchen.

[00:24:33] But that's such a hard show to sell that way that I wish I wish that they could have done something maybe with a puppet, because the puppet from what I've heard is absolutely insane. Well, Isabella McCullet I can't remember her name. Is it Isabella McCullet? I think so.

[00:24:54] Yeah, she wasn't even in that number and I'm like, they literally needed to add her to sell it at least. Or at least like lean into your lead into your superhero nerds and have more great Guston. Yeah.

[00:25:10] So that was it was a it was a weird thing to watch from a performer's perspective, but I want to give the show that I was dealt with. Because I think I think there's something special there.

[00:25:21] I want to give the show I want if it's still when I go to in to New York next year I do want to go see it because I do love it Isabella because I love rides with pink ladies. That was like my favorite show so good.

[00:25:36] So good. Should have canceled. Exactly. Very much so. All right, let me go on to my last three I'm going to save my last one my last two, but I'm going to go into limb pica. Okay.

[00:25:50] So a show that everybody who saw it said it's an incredible show would have done better off Broadway and I would have lasted a lot longer.

[00:25:56] There was a joke that Josh Groban made during the Jimmy Awards where he's like, when Pete the words can be some girls but but mitzvah theme and I about lost because I felt that was hilarious.

[00:26:07] Now, because I don't know enough about the show I know the basic premise in the plot and I looked at a lot of the costumes in the hair and make them kind of the art deco styling of it.

[00:26:16] I ended up going with one of our micro shades and I'm going with enchantress micro which kind of just looks like a paint, which is really fun. I'm going to start with a beautiful red holographic gold moment it's like a red purple.

[00:26:30] I also feel like even that's knows I can rock the hell out of that. Yeah. But all right let's talk about my last few shows. I'm going to start I'm going to go next with Tommy.

[00:26:42] I'm going to go next with Tommy because I love for the show because I'm a big fan of the who we did Tommy in college and it was it shocked me to my core. I think that it is incredible show. I think the stage was a little wild.

[00:26:57] I'm a little intrigued by but I'm also like, I kind of want to see it fully fleshed out. I'm a little mad because I just saw this morning that they're playing their final performance. Yeah. Bullshit bullshit. Yeah, bullshit. Oh my god I'm so mad. I'm so mad.

[00:27:19] That's such a good show. I feel like that's gonna be a really good touring show. Yeah. Yeah. That's also a really good show for high schools. It's a little adult but I feel like it's a really good like. I hope it tours because I want to see it.

[00:27:37] I think it would do really well out here in Vegas at the theater out here. So, well because of that one I picked Miramir because it looks like pinballs because they play this over balls and I was like that. That's Miramir in a glitter.

[00:27:54] So, I know I'm mad. I'm going to tell my stepdad he's a massive food fan as well. I'm sorry I just had to point that out. No it's morning.

[00:28:05] I haven't even got a chance to like look at all of my notes and everything and I was like, yeah.

[00:28:10] So, alright last one this is a show this is on my list of shows that if I could find a way to work on it as far as like having our products used. I think I could be very very happy for a very long time.

[00:28:24] And I'm going to go off with Cabra and the kickback club. I think that this production is startling in the best way possible. I like the fact that every MC has their own styling, their own like aesthetically look but like the way that they do their faces.

[00:28:41] I love the Marionette style choreography. I love the whole aesthetic of that show from everything I've heard nobody wants to go see it because it's so extensive, which I understand. Eddie Rayman's performance made me kind of uncomfortable. That's the point. I love it. Yeah, that's the point. Yeah.

[00:28:59] So with that one for a couple of reasons I almost did one of our star of David Glitter's have like that's a little tool on the nose for a show about a piece for rendering you know the time that it is so I ended up going with a are like grungy rainbow colors when I call it this called love always

[00:29:14] I also one of our charity ones that goes towards LGBTQ plus causes.

[00:29:22] But like, I can definitely see the MC wearing a little bit of this I could see Sally wearing a little bit of this but I want to wear this one's really fun and people love it because it is that like fun rainbow one and we have we have rainbows and a couple of different styles as far as like an

[00:29:39] rainbow and then like a dark rainbow and then like a windy rainbow.

[00:29:42] But yeah, it's I love doing stuff like this for people like tell me a show where people will come into my comments and we'll just be talking when I'm going live and they're like, I need a glitter for this and he's literally for that I want to do more of if this

[00:29:57] Broadway show was a glitter I'd love to do that as a whole little series maybe once our new studio space is done.

[00:30:03] I can actually do that as like a weekly thing what we do is like a third, like a Thursday thing like a theater Thursdays. So, but yeah it's been it's been really fun but I definitely have my list of shows that are currently on Broadway that I think we could find a place in

[00:30:20] Cabaret is one of them. We could would be a little harder because the characters we've wanted to do it to you would only be for like certain elements. Yeah. The Jellicle ball for cats. Oh, that'd be so good.

[00:30:36] And then I'm trying to think there's a couple other shows like here and there like Hard of Rock and Roll would have been really fun back to the future could be really fine. Cabaret in general obviously, but also Chicago in that being.

[00:30:55] But for me it's always about just finding the places that make sense like a lot of times when we have community theater productions that will reach out to us.

[00:31:03] They're doing things like 12 Squarepants or the little mermaid and that that's our bread and butter is those fun bright colored musicals that we can easily find something for.

[00:31:13] But yeah, that's my bucket list for 2025 because we're in 2024 right now it's to see our Glitters and the Tony Awards I think that would be really fun. Like, if I could get Audrey McDonald wearing our glitter during gypsy. I think I could probably be very happy.

[00:31:37] I'm so excited for Audrey McDonald and Gypsy. It's gonna be so good. So, but yeah that's that's our little shit. That's what we do. It's really fun to be able to connect my background and theater with the making of the cosmetics.

[00:31:55] So yeah, so then speaking of the, oh sorry, go for it. You're good. I was going to say speaking of the Tony's. What did you think about them? I thought it was relatively good.

[00:32:14] I hate saying it but also I'm not going to be mad about saying it justice for Lindsay Mendez. I think that they put her in the wrong category. Yeah, yeah. I'm so happy for Jonathan Groff and Daniel Riker. Also, I don't understand.

[00:32:38] Well, no, she did. She did went for directing. Didn't she? Did Freeman went for directing for Marilyn? I don't know before. No. No. She didn't. She lost to what's her name? The Nepo niece. The Nepo niece of Broadway is what I'm calling her.

[00:32:59] Julie Tamar's niece for the outsiders. Yeah. I'm going to say that. Fantastic in her own right, which I feel bad saying, but I was like, that's the only reason I'm going to remember her name, which I hate. But honestly, I fell in love with

[00:33:16] the director for Marilyn when she was the narrator and just maybe been technical and drink up. So, but yeah, it's, it was a good show. There were technical elements that I think could have been fixed.

[00:33:32] There was a lot of Mike errors and issues this year, which I was like, how do we not have this shit figured out? We did this line eight times a week. As much as I love Ariana and I've gotten to meet her and she's kind and sweet.

[00:33:45] I do want to see somebody else host. Yeah. Because I don't want us to get in the same route where we had like Neopatra, Harris, host four years in a row. I like to have her host four years in a row. I loved the duos.

[00:33:57] Like Alan and Kristen worked well. Josh and Sarah worked well. I kind of loved when Darren, Chris and Julian hop hosted act one. I think it was last year of the year before I thought they did great.

[00:34:10] I was like, I'd love to see the two of them with that. I'd also love to selfishly see Darren do that because I've known him for over 10 years. And I think he's one of the most genuine and talented people I know.

[00:34:21] And I think he would do so well. So well. Um, I mean, Speaking of that too, like, I just don't think that. Um, She hosted last year and this year, right? Um, I don't think she can top another year. She can't top what she has left this year.

[00:34:46] Nothing, nothing, nothing will talk the writer strike. Yeah. Tony Awards. Yeah. Because it was, it felt so real. And it felt like live theater. And it was like, It was like, It was like, It was like, It was like, It was like, That was why. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:35:08] And like, just like the, the beginning with her, like turning the book and there's like blank pages. Yeah. And I'm like, it's, it's chilling. I'm like, It's so good. Nothing to top that. No, nothing at all. I did enjoy her performance. Like that.

[00:35:24] So I didn't do a very well much, much that was very immersive swept out into the shows about which, about what they were going to talk about a little bit in the intro. I do miss when we were doing a lot of like big chorus numbers for intros.

[00:35:40] Yeah, Like nothing will top them ones, Neil Patrick Harris where he did the magic trick and he went from our stage to the back of the stage. And then did that Tom, who were close up on my mouth.

[00:35:52] of writing that. Yeah. Give Shana Tao the opportunity next year. She's proven she can do stuff like this so give her the opportunity. And I will just say this one thing about Lin Manuel Miranda. Love the guy, he's a creative genius except for except for the little mermaid.

[00:36:20] I don't like to speak ill of theater people. I don't, I really don't. But there are times where I'm like, maybe it's not necessary to change things so drastically for the sake of changing things.

[00:36:36] Tick-Tick Boom was amazing. I love Tick-Tick Boom. I thought that was incredible and I'm still forever bummed that he did not get miraculous for that. Yeah. I thought I and I'm also in the minority. I don't think Hamilton is the best musical. I'm sorry, it's In the Heights

[00:36:52] by far. I've only seen the movie. Oh, In the Heights? Yeah. I don't like to say look at slime tutorials but um slime tutorials on YouTube of In the Heights. Oh yeah that's a show. Yeah.

[00:37:07] And I've only seen Hamilton on Disney Plus and I'm seeing it on broad like in a show because it's touring here next year so I'm gonna be able to see it. So and I love it. I love Hamilton but

[00:37:23] I think it's good but I think that there are other shows. I also feel like there needs to be a clause on Broadway where we shouldn't have these 10 to 15-year shows. There are some that

[00:37:34] I'm like never leave. I think once you, I think if you are suddenly in a certain capacity after seven years you can be like 10 fold into a show. Yeah. Like Wicked, like I guess Hamilton. Yeah.

[00:37:46] Like Phantom was but honestly I hate having such high-turner on Broadway but also I'd love to see they maybe expand more into using off-roadway shows and theaters because I think that the

[00:38:01] more live theater we can get in this world is better. I miss Phantom. I really do miss it. I'm sad it's a good job. Although I saw something on Instagram saying that they're coming back

[00:38:16] but in an immersive. There's a theater production which I love that that's becoming the thing. I'm scared for it. Like you put the word Phantom of the Opera in immersive together that's like.

[00:38:28] I see the masquerade going through the audience. I see kind of like what they did with great comment. That's what I see more of and like move on reach. Oh yeah. As far as like that's what they mean by

[00:38:43] immersive. They mean like the stage intertwine more with the audience versus it being in an interactive style. I've also really really really mad that uh The Great Getsy was not eligible the Tony's. I'm 50-50 on it. I understand it but it's still it's still kind of sucks. Yeah.

[00:39:06] It will be interesting to see if next year has the ART production one has that announced when it's transferring? It's already on Broadway. The ART one the Florence one. Oh no no I don't think but but but the great that one transfer yeah when the Florence and the

[00:39:26] well Florence and machine one transfers that one looking on it. Yeah. I think and it from everything I've heard because you know no cell phones allowed it is incredible so I'm

[00:39:37] very excited. Because I think and I do think here's an idea if you should do a great gas speak litter and then and then give it to even noble dada to use in the very aspect.

[00:39:51] I would love to. I have to I'd have to look a little bit more accustomed to things like that to like figure out which ones would work for her. Right. That's she's on my list of people who

[00:40:01] I feel like would vibe so well with this enter that's how there are. I'd love to also like send out a couple of Broadway character packages to some Broadway influencers as like there's a list of them

[00:40:12] that I have potentials especially for like next year. We talked about also doing Broadway concerts. I couldn't do it this year. I'm looking at it for next year because we do really well at conventions and especially fandom conventions and yes New York is a little harder because

[00:40:30] it's all the way across the country. But the difference is that if I need to ship stuff to New York I can just ship it to my sister because they live there. So that is my dream and my goal

[00:40:41] to have my the party of your Broadway world podcast at BroadwayCon but that wouldn't happen. I don't think you never know. Honestly, I'd say never know and I know that that is a production company. I think that's mischief management who they've done leaky con and

[00:40:57] geeky con and I've been to geeky con that was 10 years ago and it was a blast. So it's that's that's something I'd love to be able to expand on more especially as we're getting more into theater

[00:41:06] elements and working more with theater educators as well and trying to develop that part of our brand because well we'll never be a full-fledged cosmetic company in the realms of like a Mac or

[00:41:18] a Nix or Urban Decay or Ben Nye like we're not going to do foundations and things of that nature because I don't have the money to formulate enough sheets that I think

[00:41:28] would be necessary but I think being supplementary for theater and cheer and dance and the arts is something I would love to really develop a lot more on. Well thank you for coming on. Thank you

[00:41:46] so so so much this was an absolute pleasure and I'm excited to see what's going on Broadway next year. So maybe next year we'll do another Tony's recap with The Winners as Blitters. Oh I'd love to. I'm down for it. Awesome thank you so much for having me.

[00:42:04] All right guys we'll see you guys next time. Bye guys. Bye now.