Goosebumps Adjacents (ft. Library Macabre & Jude Deluca)

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[00:04:07] Well, Kim and Jude are joining us today on this episode of The Goosebumps Crew podcast. And today is a little bit of a weird episode. I know we're going to be talking to Goosebumps at the beginning, but we're actually talking about stuff that is not related to Goosebumps.

[00:04:23] As you guys probably know by this point we said it a nauseating amount of times. Goosebumps was a pretty big franchise back in the 90s. I don't know if you guys knew that, but it was.

[00:04:35] And you know, the books were super, super popular. It's on the TV show. It's found all this merchandise and all these business deals and what have you.

[00:04:43] And of course with anything popular, no matter when or what it is, anything popular there's going to be things out there that are going to either rip off or copy or take inspiration in a ways from whatever is popular.

[00:05:03] And Goosebumps was no exception. Goosebumps when it started in 92 was not the first of its kind, but it was. It was pretty, it was a pretty big pioneer in sort of the young adult, a horror genre in that sort of middle elementary school sort of age group.

[00:05:23] And it did its job so well that of course other publishers took notice and they wanted to have their own goose bumps of sorts. So as a result, we got many different series that came out over the course of the 90s and even the early 2000s

[00:05:37] that would try to capture that same formula. And we're going to talk about some of them today and you know, whether we know them a lot or know them very little.

[00:05:47] We're going to bring up as many as we possibly can and go over them and talk about them and see if any of them stand the test of time.

[00:05:57] I've been highly doubt that any of them are going to surpass Goosebumps, but you never know there could be a hidden gem in the bunch. But I'm doing the gross. I'm going to go like a laden.

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[00:08:02] So again, Goosebumps had a lot of copycats that appeared after it's takeoff in the mid 90s. And that's true for any big franchise. There's always going to be ripoffs or knockoffs,

[00:08:16] or even like in the more nicer sense, people who sort of try to do the same thing with a different spin. But there is no shortage of it. So we're going to talk about as many as we could possibly think of.

[00:08:28] But before we get into the ones that were completely devoid from RL Stines involvement, let's talk about some of the ones that did have RL Stines name on it. But we're not Goosebumps books, but kind of where.

[00:08:41] And I think the best place to start off with that is a little series called Ghost of Fear Street. Now, as you guys may know, RL Stines Fear Street was one of the first book series that he started.

[00:08:53] It came before Goosebumps and it was for sort of teenagers like really young adult. Like you're talking like high school, even college maybe these books were being written. And they were pretty popular and then you had to spin off series that was for way younger kids.

[00:09:11] And was very much like Goosebumps in its writing style and just the sort of concepts that were brought up for it. Now, I didn't read much of Goose to Fear Street, but I certainly remember the book covers.

[00:09:26] Much like Tim D'Cobus's art, the Ghost of Fear Street covers were very, very memorable. I remember seeing these in my school library and seeing like nightmare and 3D with the giant praying mantis.

[00:09:40] And the stay away from the tree house, which was almost like a twister in this kid was like screaming trapped in it.

[00:09:47] And my personal favorite was the boy who ate Fear Street and it's just this boy with like all these worms and dirt coming out of his mouth and his face is all green. So that was always what stuck out for me the most.

[00:10:00] Did you guys ever read Goose to Fear Street? Well, I definitely tried through his months of Goose to Fear Street as Fear Street.

[00:10:09] While I focused more on the main Fear Street books, Goose was always a bit of on the side for me, especially because at that point they were starting to get hard to find straight forwardly from the book stores.

[00:10:26] I'm lucky enough to say I was able to find all the latter ones with the 3D covers are now ridiculously expensive online. But I know my favorite one is the go to your tomb right now, which was Ghost Written by Carol and Grimmy.

[00:10:47] And after that my two favorites were both from Nina Kiericki Hoffman. Why I'm not afraid of Goose and I was a 6 grade zombie.

[00:11:01] I, that is something that was really interesting about those books is that they weren't written by RL Stein, like at least in like the broader sense. They were all Ghost Writer's which thank God it wasn't under Scholastic, I'm brawling. They would have kicked his ass. Yeah.

[00:11:22] I remember when I first opened up one of the Ghost's Fear Street books, I had read a couple of them by then but I finally noticed on the copyright page where they say who the real author was and I was like, what?

[00:11:32] I didn't actually write that it was kind of like a disappointing moment for me now. It's like well of course he didn't write all those people couldn't have it. Yeah. I read a couple of them growing up.

[00:11:44] I really liked, like Jude was saying, the original Fear Street books. I loved reading those when I was a really young kid because I felt like I was getting away with something They were just a little more edgy and violent and bloody.

[00:11:56] But whenever I wanted something like Ghost's Fear Street, I would usually just read Goosebumps. So I only read a couple of them and I now have a full set of them. I'm happy to say because they're so expensive now.

[00:12:08] And so I would like to go back and kind of bench through the series eventually and read the ones I didn't read. But I really liked the first book, Hyden Shreeke, I remember getting that from the book fair as a kid.

[00:12:18] And that's just like a happy moment for me of taking the book up to the front and paying for it with my allowance money.

[00:12:24] And then putting a stamp on the inside of it saying, I bought the book at the book fair and I'm like why did you put a stamp in my book? I was like a fint of my it. There's that.

[00:12:36] And they've been valued right. Yeah, you just cut it out. You buy 5%. I have the fortune teller. I remember reading and really liking that one too, but it's been 20 years since I read that one.

[00:12:50] So I never read the book, but I always was curious like what the story was of don't get or it was like don't get sick at grandma's house.

[00:13:02] I told you that cover with the grandma and the thermometer is like it was like trying to put it in your room. You'll believe. Is it like a precursor to chamois the visit that what that is. It looks like yeah, that sort of mark is for sure.

[00:13:22] I'm not read it though so I don't know. What if you found out that M. Knight Chamois was secretly in our all-star and stand? How many was it? It was a great one. I know first time. How much Chamois is obsessed with twists.

[00:13:39] I wouldn't be surprised if he was an RL Stein fan. But, no, I just remember those frigging covers. They were like even like God, I'm blanking on the name, but you probably know the one.

[00:13:53] The bug people was like a tack of the bug people and it was bad. Yeah, I remember the bug in the Hawaiian shirt. It was always when that was creepy but it was like why do you wear a Hawaiian shirt?

[00:14:07] Oh yeah, I know the one you're talking about now. I've got a really sparkly cover too. Yeah, I remember that. Wow, this is like giving me a seizure. It's so sparkly. That is one of the things that I do definitely remember why I didn't really read anything else.

[00:14:24] But the goose bumps series when it came to Stein, I did read some fierce treat obviously but never goes to fierce treat. I will say that goes to fierce treat covers were eye catching. Like they really did draw on your attention. Yes. Yeah, it was an interesting series.

[00:14:41] I'd love to know who actually designed those covers because I mean, I don't, it's kind of like somebody like the goose bumps merge that was back in the 90s. We've talked about it before where the artwork was different. What we could never find out yet, that art.

[00:14:56] We never knew who actually did the art for a lot of that. Yeah, like the continuity looking ones, like the continuity mascots. Yeah, we never found out who did those and they just as I want. I don't think about it. Yeah, no, definitely.

[00:15:12] But one thing I do need to bring up is that ghost of fierce treat. It didn't get an official TV series, but it did have a pilot made. I believe, I don't remember, was it an unfinished pilot or was it a finished pilot? It's finished.

[00:15:30] I just don't think they ever properly released it or maybe it aired on TV and then they just didn't pick it up. I think it was an ABC. Like Saturday. Yeah, it was like ABC and I remember how to banging, opening with all the dancing skeletons on it.

[00:15:46] Oh, yeah. I have seen that. Yeah. It's super cheap, but I love it. I wish you would've gotten picked up because I would've loved it as a kid. Kind of like a, it lean more towards like what bone chillers was doing.

[00:16:02] Compared to what ghost bumpsters was doing is definitely more campy. But it, yeah, it's sexy that wasn't picked up because that was the closest beer street got to get onto the netflix movies. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was interesting.

[00:16:19] Well, it's funny that it definitely seemed like ABC wanted that sort of goose bumps chillin there network. I wonder if ghosts of fear street was pitched on before bone chillers. Maybe they just passed it up. But it seems all too coincidental that, yeah.

[00:16:39] I was wondering that too if it was around the same time as bone chillers because bone chillers got a full season. Maybe they decided to go with bone chillers instead or they didn't want to. Those kind of shows on at the same time.

[00:16:51] I love the bone chillers TV show. I love the zaniness. There's like an art to how crazy that show is. Yeah, what's the style of it overall is really great. I have some more about the bone chillers series.

[00:17:04] I don't know what it is about those books but I remember having the chance to read them at my school library. And I just never did. I was still not into the goose bumps stuff.

[00:17:18] Even when I was, I was kind of like, I didn't want to read any books. But I remember having the chance to read them at my school library and I just never did. I was still like not into the goose bumps stuff.

[00:17:31] Yeah, even when I was kind of like, I didn't want to read anything that wasn't goose bumps. So even if it was even if it was essentially diet goose bumps, I kind of just was like, yeah, just stick with that. It's like diet soda.

[00:17:44] It's like, yeah, you could drink diet soda, but you know, you have the good soda right there. You have the right soda. So why why why you do that?

[00:17:53] So if it was using ghost riders would it be instead of sugar free as an analogy, it would be Stein free. Yeah, pretty much Stein free. So ghost of fear street and it was interesting because it was coming out around the same time as goose bumps.

[00:18:11] But the next series we're going to talk about really quick is came out after goose bumps and it's the nightmare room.

[00:18:18] So as we mentioned in our episode covering the lost books, Stein did have a falling out with scholastic in 1998 that resulted in him weaving and not renewing his contract in the year 2000.

[00:18:31] After that he went over to Harper Collins and that's where the nightmare room was born now he was originally going to do nightmare room and goose bumps gold, but of course goose bumps gold never came to be. So it was just nightmare room.

[00:18:44] nightmare room again, like ghost of fear street is essentially goose bumps with a different coat of paint. I don't remember they're being really anything different in the writing style. I don't think there was really any like it was any more extreme or violent compared to goose bumps.

[00:19:02] But again, I just remember those really, really nice covers and honestly the titles of some of the books were really good. The dear, dying line dead is a great. Yeah, yeah, a girl and a walker 13 with the skull on the locker. Yeah, it's not really good.

[00:19:24] I love the book send the series. It was a pretty good series. It was over on a kids WB. Yeah, the nightmare room series was super short live, but honestly it was a pretty good series. It was over on a kids WB.

[00:19:38] And it had some pretty good episodes that had one. My personal favorite is the Halloween episode which I actually have the book of a full moon Halloween and the TV episode I think is really fun. It has a great ending in my opinion. Yes, it does.

[00:19:56] Yeah, I love it. It really, really great. My favorite one. Yeah, I'd say my favorite one was definitely a wishful with Charlotte Buff. I think that was part of my favorite one because it had like a creepy doll. And of course, how much I love Sapias.

[00:20:12] You know, most two kind of felt, you know, the same vein I guess. But no, I had some great. That's some big actors in that show. We brought up a couple times like the stars in that was insane. And I'm an instinct from WWS, like.

[00:20:26] But the only just shows up, you know, you know, you had like pretty much every actor from Malcolm in the middle of like it was such a stellar show. I loved it. Yeah, I just love that whole episode.

[00:20:36] You had, you know, like actual monsters coming after this kid and then you just had sting. And he just wanted to beat the shit out of the skin. Yeah. Re型. What he does. Just call it race. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good show.

[00:20:53] I remember the books coming out and kind of getting into them and then finding out from my friends that it was actually a show. You know, this was before internet. I mean, there was internet, but I wasn't on the internet that was early. So I was like, what?

[00:21:05] There's a show. So I remember tuning in that Saturday morning and watching it. I loved the Halloween episode. I still watched that every Halloween season. It's like a tradition of mine. I also love the episode four eyes with it's kind of like a vision of the body snatchers.

[00:21:21] That has a really good impact too. And then the books, yeah, are pretty solid. I feel like the only real difference, like you were talking about is the style of,

[00:21:30] it's got the style of goose bumps, but the main difference is that it feels a little more like twilight zone. It's maybe a little more serious. Maybe a little less can't be than goose bumps can be, especially toward the end of the series. Yeah.

[00:21:45] You know, a little silly, a little can't be in funny. Whereas I feel like Nightmarem had less humor. That was a little straight, but overall pretty similar. And actually pretty glad that you brought up the similarities to twilight zone because it really kind of is. I agree.

[00:22:03] Goose bumps to being sort of like a younger version of Tales from the crypt. Where Nightmarem is sort of like that younger, like twilight zone even down to James. Excuse me. James Avery doing the opening narration because he plays RL Stein in this show.

[00:22:19] The show had a great opening too, like it was like it wasn't really like a theme song. It was just the narration with like the images and then the kid was like rushing around and bed and like having a nightmare.

[00:22:34] And it was great. It was a great way to light fades in the moon rises and everything can happen. Yeah.

[00:22:41] And then every episode ended with like, you would have like the really scary like ending shot and then it would just be like, you know, a little Tommy should have known that before he stepped foot of the nightmare room.

[00:22:57] It was just, but it really did. It was like it was more subtle in sort of its like scary as it still had like some of that campy aspect of course because you still had like, you know, mummies and werewolves and all that stuff.

[00:23:10] It wasn't like twilight zone where it was more in like the mysterious. It wasn't like outright monsters all the time. But it had a lot of that. I'm actually kind of glad you brought it up because I was thinking I was like,

[00:23:23] I'm more I think about the show. It was kind of like that sort of rod surling presenting a story sort of thing.

[00:23:30] Yeah, and I grew up watching twilight zone. I loved the old episode. So watching that as a kid, I was like, hey, this is this reminds me of twilight zone. It's like it was made for me. Yeah. I agree.

[00:23:43] Did you think you might be able to also compare it to like night gallery, sir. I was ever show that always was more far or less sci-fi compared to twilight zone. Right. I would say so, but I mean, I remember twilight zone certainly having its horror aspects.

[00:24:05] I mean, you look at the twilight zone movie. And personally, I think that's just a straight horror film because they really ramped up the crazy special effects on that one. Out of remember John with Gow and the plane with the monster.

[00:24:21] Scary monster. The one from the show is goofy looking the one in the movie is like, I shit my pants. And then there's met that scene with is it Dan Acroyd in the car where he turns around. Yeah. He's like, grab me as a ghost.

[00:24:38] Yeah, it's like you think the scary one guy in the driver's seat is like looking over and I mean, just like smiling and all of a sudden. Like large margin. P.E.s big adventure scared me so bad. It's a weird scene in that movie.

[00:24:53] It's like, P.E. Herman and all of a sudden you got that creepy, it's not motion effect in that movie is like, freak. I hello. Hey, man. Yeah. But yeah, nightmare room. I mean, I was too young at the time.

[00:25:07] I was alive but I was way too young to be watching that at the time. But I remember every time I watched a Scooby-Doo VHS tape growing up, there was always that commercial at the beginning for the nightmare room on DVD. And it was freaky.

[00:25:24] It was like, because you had that narration and then all the clips from the show. Yeah, this the shot of the diary with the beetles or the bugs coming out of it. Yeah. Oh, actually that reminds me.

[00:25:37] That took up a memory when the nightmare room first came out. Because I remember my mom yelling at Scooby-Doo. I'd be all this a new goose bumps series. And I was like, oh my god, a new season.

[00:25:46] Like, so I'm running over and it was like the nightmare room. This isn't goose bumps. I said, you know, I was still playing. But then I sat down and watched it. And I'm so glad I did though because it was actually, it was really good.

[00:25:56] And I think it was, I think it was the episode. Oh, I think it was the Halloween episode. I'm pretty sure that was on TV. But yeah, it was like, yeah, she like, she tricked me. She's like, oh my god, goose bumps is on.

[00:26:08] But it was just, it was the nightmare room. And then she blocked the door behind you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm so glad. And I remember my dad being like, oh look at dummy. Because it was like the insurance had like the doll.

[00:26:19] And he's like, oh, I'm just like, oh my god. Like somebody was like six or twice a week. Oh, I've been through a quest dummy and just be like, look, it's slappy. It's like that's a slappy. Yeah. And I know. Slap. Oh, crap. In the same way.

[00:26:37] Oh, Dylan and Cole sprouts and shylebuff and like one episode, man. Like they got some actors and they got some stars in that. I still just kind of get angry. You know, men and lions like, like obviously because goose bumps was so big.

[00:26:50] And then this was like the next thing. It's like, they must have all watched goose bumps. You know, when they were kids. So they were like, how hell yeah, we'll do this. You know, more than they're like, we've been.

[00:26:59] It was also just at the time when you know, TV shows were definitely, for kids were definitely like picking up like, who was popular in sort of those child actors. Because the goose bumps show didn't really have many of those, were like, oh, these kids are super popular.

[00:27:15] They were just kind of like, yeah, you can come out in episode. Yeah. They became big a later. So I mean, the biggest actor you had probably at the time. Mr. Adam West, I would say at the time. You know what I mean?

[00:27:28] And then you had like, yeah, and you had like, of course, Hayden Christianson and Ron goes like, Ron goes like, was already solid big, but it wasn't huge yet. So they all kind of got bigger later. Next up, we got to talk about how he went.

[00:27:41] Now, probably one of my favorites among these. And that's bone chillers. I've always had the bones. We have a retwince. I guess if I wanted to be different, I could hold up this book. Yeah. Bone chillers is definitely one of the more like well-known

[00:27:58] of the goose bumps adjacent. It's certainly one that for one reason and another like, it just kind of got into my peripheral. And they're really interesting books. They're really fun to read. And also Tim Jacobus artwork. He did do the art work.

[00:28:16] He did all of them, did he? Or did he do every single one? I think he did all of them, yeah. Mm-hmm. Now, yeah, he definitely down. So trying to figure out how many he did for spine tinglers. Yeah, Tim got around. He got around town.

[00:28:38] Very, very, very crazy. Tim, if you're watching, we're sorry. And you are probably not saying kill. He's like, no, you're a gentleman. I'm not. But this is actually also Harper Collins, funnily enough. And like I say, these books were like pretty interesting overall.

[00:29:00] You can't go wrong with a series with a book like Franken Turkey. And then it's subsequent sequel, Franken Turkey too. Because apparently they made two of those. Yeah. Next, go, Mickey. Turkey. Turkey. Should have been the sequel.

[00:29:15] The second Franken Turkey book came out like literally two books after the first one. Like how they kind of been like in time, like next Thanksgiving. So like what was the timing on that? I wonder. At least by the time they got to Monster Blood 2,

[00:29:31] it was been like nearly a year and a half. So. Oh, I don't know. Oh, we didn't. These books, I haven't read too many of these books, but I certainly remember the TV show. So as we said, ABC got bone showers that was their goosebumps show.

[00:29:50] And I've seen just about every single episode of that show. And I love that show. It is so, it is so like cheesy and corny. Like if you thought Goosebumps was cheesy is like, wait until you watch bone trailers.

[00:30:06] Because it's like, it is pure goof like to the extreme. It's like this. It's so charming. It's basically a comedy, you know? It's far more comedy than it is for. And, um, Funnily enough, it had, uh, and when the cardalini is one of the main characters.

[00:30:27] And, uh, I'm so blanking on his name. But, um, the voice of Roger Rabbit was one of the recurring characters in the show. Um, did Harper Collins have an actual bookstore that you could go to? I don't think so. I don't think it is. It is.

[00:30:43] So Harper Collins with a press. That's, that's an actual store. Maybe it has the original press on it. I would assume that it must have been an actual store that you could go. Because it's Harper Collins. It just says the store, Harper Collins. 695. Hmm. We had it.

[00:31:01] I got to see my favorite book and subsequent episode in bone trailers is back to school because it is such a gross concept, especially in the, in the, in the episode. Um,

[00:31:14] I won't give too much away, but it's basically about a lunch lady who is making this really good food. But then it turns out that she's actually like a fly woman. And they're like, oh, I can't, I don't want to, I don't want to spoil it.

[00:31:32] You should definitely, I believe the whole series is actually on YouTube. You guys can go check it out for yourselves. But I remember watching that same episode on VHS. I got it from the library as well. Watching it in the living room and my teenage sister walks in.

[00:31:47] She's like, what are you watching? This is disgusting. Mom. It's so much fun. It's like, I'm not a good show. Come on. Yeah, it's so easy. Hey, it's a kid show. It's on kids network. Exactly. It's not that it is an ad.

[00:32:04] Yeah, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Even, just, just make to surprise. There's a plot device that involves eating mustard and honestly that's just a, the disgusting as any of the monsters. I love mustard. I love mustard.

[00:32:19] I was going to say. I was going to ask you. It looks like that. I lost tattoo… What info yet. Like I wished. I got that. I look likeर. They get all of their mouth, it's othat ketchup by thearner ear, okay? Catch up. Do that episode,

[00:32:35] that don't light mustard anymore first. Yeah. Everyone needs to call me De Gion is my name is Leo and he also call me purple Diesel that was like my nickname in school.

[00:32:48] Because it was because like the way my name felt like god damn or it was too infinity to infinity and beyond So he's got a busster, but human being

[00:33:00] You know I love lust dude. What if you got like what if you got got cut one day and then we were bleeding mustard instead of blood I would eat it I would lick it. Oh, you're like oh Is this a play on shout as a basement then?

[00:33:14] You know see me a plant food at Roon sing it's just a whole thing of like mustard seeds and No, people don't know about that So it is that he was actually bleeding relish in that scene

[00:33:27] So you know you can put it on a nice hot dog and happy self a good time God, you know what I'm gonna have for lunch No idea for when we can do hurling now I think that's what we need to do arm juice

[00:33:41] Hot dogs yes with and with mustard and if you don't get mustard on your hot dog then you don't get to have a hot dog simple You know some of the bone shillers books were also Ghosts written like I think of it like book 10

[00:33:57] It's stopped they started saying like in Betsy hands as bone shillers, but it was They were written by her and It's funny because a Couple that I've heard that will go straight and try to imply they were in like the same setting because they

[00:34:14] mentioned like the high school from the TV show begger Alan Paul high And it just Seeing where that they tried to do like a shared universe or something like that like I know The Romeo and Juliet book was released years after the episode aired

[00:34:33] So it was a recursive adaption Yeah, that's the weird thing. It's like it wasn't like goosebumps for every episode was adapted from a book even the ones like The series 2000 the book had released a few months prior before the episode

[00:34:48] But yeah, bone shillers was weird like that is like you'd have an episode come out before the book did so it was like The book was an adaptation of the TV show in that weird sense I remember that episode the Romeo and Juliet one

[00:35:02] Because of just that chaotic of finale where they're in the school and You have I still blank you on his damn name the guy who voiced Roger Abbott

[00:35:13] He's in a night gown the whole time when he's holding a toothbrush and he's using it till like fight against the ghouls Another day The internet was named was Arne and but yeah, I'm blanking on the name too. We were just talking about him a couple weeks ago

[00:35:29] I'm gonna feel really stupid because I'm gonna look I'm looking it up right now, but I was bless her Charles flesher You see I Now I feel charles flat chair Charles flesher and Charles Lee Ray his name was on the

[00:35:44] Janitor but he was like a really weird like personality But he would always be like whenever they would go to him Her advice he would always be like doing something weird in that episode. He was like in a toilet Something really great that he does

[00:36:01] Mid conversation his accent changes and he keeps changing his accent like every few sentences And I love that it's so funny One last thing I'll say about bone chillers is again, but theme

[00:36:16] It has a really good theme song and it's just kind of encapsulates the whole TV show because again involve skeletons And it's just the characters going around being like It has like a fifth piece movie ascending where the screams are very exaggerated

[00:36:35] Yeah, and then they're running away from the skeleton and it's like very clearly like You know like not a real skeleton. It's kind of running like It's great. It was it's a great series if you want like a really good

[00:36:51] Goose bumps that's not goose bumps. I would recommend bone chillers because I think it's a really fun series Some of those books are pretty hard to find too. I actually think the

[00:37:01] The one with the clowns was like one of the later ones is actually like an incredibly rare book to find Just hold at that myself the only one I'm missing is the Romeo and Juliet one some very jealous

[00:37:15] Yeah, so there's there's rarity in those books too. So if you can find them Like I showed her I was able to actually find a few recently So you could probably find some somewhere, but definitely check them out if you can and I would

[00:37:29] I would recommend them. That's great Now another book series that got a TV adaptation is Christopher Pike's Spooksville But this thing getting adaptation in the 90s a gotten adaptation in 2014 on the hub network

[00:37:47] So for those in the where the hub was where they aired rlstein's the haunting hour and Also that was the last place in the US that would air goose bumps reruns But they did Spooksville and it was actually similar to bone chillers where the original books

[00:38:04] I don't think had Connection it was kind of like an anthology series but the TV show had like a main cast of characters and They would experience each episode Well Spooksville didn't have like the same cast of characters throughout the whole series in the books

[00:38:25] Like I haven't read as many of them but I think they There was like a small sub arc they were trying to do through a world like Some past books will get mentioned in one or like what happened in one book would affect the other, but

[00:38:42] I do know was always a bit weird out that when they made the characters in the TV show teenagers they also made the witch character from the book was an adult Into a teenager as well for some sort of weird love triangle and it just kind of like

[00:39:04] I don't know what they were really thinking it just seemed odd to me Yeah, it was kind of weird but it was definitely going for more of that like Teen drama sort of thing I think it was also trying to like be similar enough to haunting Aller

[00:39:19] Because they would always put premieres for both those shows back to back It was never a show. I really went out of my way to watch it just didn't seem like that interesting But it was another show that a really good theme song. I will say That's a

[00:39:33] Most of the shows to be honest. Yeah, it is a good theme song I quite a few of the books growing up because I was a big Christopher Pike fan So I went my toes into his middle grade books and I tried to read them in order

[00:39:46] Because like dude was saying they do all connect. There's the same characters There there is kind of a main mission that they're going on throughout the books

[00:39:54] It kind of reminds me of like a kid's version of Buffy in a way because you've got the big bad who's the witch And that's the common thread that kind of connects everything so it feels like a little bit of horror

[00:40:04] A little bit of sci-fi a little bit of fantasy and it's all just kind of melded together I really don't even think of it so much as like a goose bumpsy kind of series because

[00:40:14] Maybe on the surface it is because you've got the click cover art that's similar But it feels more like a supernatural version of babysitter's club or something to me if that makes any sense

[00:40:26] The TV show are remember being really excited for it so I was like, there's no way they're adapting spooks Fill as a TV show that's crazy So I watched it and then I think I only watched a few episodes because I was kind of let down by it

[00:40:40] So I did love the hot hour show was great Yeah, that's the thing it's like whenever they would do like the back to back I was like

[00:40:50] I think spooks feel air first so I would like purposefully miss it, but then I would like immediately to an into the haunting hour because it was just so much more Interesting. It was a great show. It was like

[00:41:02] Other the things that that show did were like it was freaking hard It didn't give off a block about the number I remember that scarecrow episode from hunting hour and

[00:41:14] Watching that with younger siblings because I was how old as I when hunting air came on I was like 1819 And my siblings were younger and I was like well, this is great. I can show them this and kind of expose them to horror

[00:41:28] And we watched that scarecrow episode and they just kind of sat there like What was that and I'm like sorry guys. That was kind of intense Or the pumpkin head episode like that was oh yeah, we keep you slow That was for you

[00:41:45] And that's sequel I did oh my god Yeah, it was the the catching cold with a rally And mascot mascot was freaking out the dream catcher Yeah so many iconic episode if you haven't watched talking about run man

[00:42:09] Do yourself a favor in watch haunting how or because it is That is like Such a well done show in every single way and it it is freaky like it's not like goose bumps where like

[00:42:21] You'll maybe have a laugh here or there. It's like there's no laughing you're just gonna be freaked the hell out if you're a kid Definitely But yeah, I wasn't too familiar with spooksville books I do remember seeing the books at the library

[00:42:36] Because back before they started like really separating like the goose bumps books My library used to have it where like every book was Kind of like separated by like what kind of book they were so

[00:42:49] A lot of the young adult books were in the same pile. So you had the goose bumps and you had Some of the other series, but I remember seeing the spooksville books I remember

[00:43:00] The the cold people one specifically that cover art with the icy finger on the door Like that was pretty neat But I never I never read any of the books. I was only really familiar at the TV show and yeah, the TV show wasn't

[00:43:15] That interesting to me. Yeah, looks much better so I do recommend them moving on to another lesser known series just kind of keeping in with the theme of ones that got You know TV adaptations but I wanted to quickly bring up dead-time stories

[00:43:31] Now I remember seeing that TV show that was on Nickelodeon Very limited TV series. It was only for October of the years at aired and

[00:43:42] And I just remember it was like a big deal on the network at the time because they were like we're gonna have these really scary stories They had like this Teen actor who was in like I believe they were in like some sick

[00:43:55] I remember watching the episode you had like invasion of the apple heads you had a lot of that spider The apple heads ones are good one. I always I always love the the witch Breaking out which he takes a bite out of peanut brittle if you start screaming

[00:44:21] That's great no hurdles delicious. I love peanut Where's the peanut Not that peanut brittle I'm expecting the sponge ball back the side where like you go so then magic shop

[00:44:32] And he keeps opening up all the cans and he wants to see not see peanut brittle whatever. Oh, yeah There's the the scene at brittle They see not really yeah Oh, boys see about

[00:44:43] And then he opens it like the the can of snakes like where's the see the brittle? And then he don't because the other one he's like oh don't again. Oh, God I love that in terms of the Dead-Time stories books you're probably familiar with this cover

[00:44:59] Very Chuckie asks That's a what that was like Hmm, and that's not Chuckie. That's early completely original character do not steal That's not Chuck That's bulky it looks like Chuck It's like honey monkey monkey bars Oh

[00:45:20] Yeah, the one that you that you held up there just now fairy tale Yeah It's can see that it's um It's fucking hilarious honestly At one point in it

[00:45:35] But to main characters meet up with the seven dwarres or like that the reject seven dwarres and one of them asks You kids that were been in a gang war before And I'm Not exaggerating they literally get involved in a gang war between dwarves which is just like

[00:45:55] them hurling Insult that each of our and like motorcycle riding dwarves. I'm not making this up it's A lot of areas that's a pussy gang war Where's the And the drive buys don't forget about the drive buys Come on everybody get

[00:46:22] I have that exact time my power wheels Power wheels and scooters But they like to drive buys Oh, actually no I'm just going Warwick Davis I I Separate Con sequel Separate in the hood at part as well. I was going to say they already have

[00:46:56] In the hood so they kind of sort of did something like that I guess and then he went back to the hood He would just ace Boys yeah To the neighborhood and I see what you did there

[00:47:13] Now another series that I am completely I don't know really anything about it But I know if probably one of the most shameless goose bumps ripoffs and that was the shivers book series Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Now the house of shivers

[00:47:33] And not the house of shivers. It's just the shivers I see them quite often there. I see them around me too I've just I've never really like gotten the chance to like really Find out about them Oh, yeah, and They're like

[00:47:53] Bumps on steroids a little bit. I mean not all of them are some of them are more tame But then you sometimes just run into something like this Which is like the darkest They who've ever read as a children's book Really like I'm talking dark really

[00:48:10] Dark and kind of this one Activating talks about like the Nazi Holocaust among other things like Hey one of the the Tor group that goes through this wax museum one of them's got like this Uber religious family and the Tor guy tells everyone how the younger kid

[00:48:34] When his parents are asleep he goes on x-rated message boards pretending to be someone far older and is Mom just like loses it starts swatting in with the Bible Yeah, I'm not I'm not kidding at one point Are these even mommy? Yes dear

[00:48:58] I think I'm a shivers books now Did anybody watch the campaign That had will-ferral and Zach Alfonakis Oh, yeah, you know the campaign for punches the pain so Right, so If you've watched it, I mean the dinner scene sounds almost just like

[00:49:19] Just like yeah, they start telling confessions because they're gonna be in the public eye They're really just like That was a great movie. These get really wild this one is one that I was the first one I ever read as a kid and I was like whoa

[00:49:36] This is not sponsored that I don't recommend this one quite as much because something sad happens involving a dog so I'm just like most people are But it is really it is it's really sad. I like where did that come from oh my god?

[00:49:53] But there's also good stuff in here like this Like I chasing the two main characters with a bloody knife and trying to kill them And I mean it's not just like you know goose bumps where you don't really know what's gonna happen

[00:50:06] It's like no these these kids are in actual danger like this person actually wants to kill them There's no hiding it This one How kid is new in school he ends up getting like bullied really really terribly and you know as a kid was bully like I

[00:50:21] We connected to this but sure And he ends up kind of like There's like a demonic angle where he starts to become Evil and then he starts turning into the bullies and there's a really terrible scene. I don't want to spoil it

[00:50:36] Where something happens to these bullies and it's violent what I was reading it shocked I brought it to the bull one day as a kid my family swimming and I'm sitting there reading this and I'm like

[00:50:50] Hello, oh my god, let me invalid with the bullies get like ripped apart Basically yeah Wow like Before you you guys told me all that I was like This it must have been just like you know another goose bumps, but I

[00:51:10] Think I got to read some shivers books now I'm sorry They're good they're not pretty dark at times A lot of them creepy clothes is about these two kids who learn that they're dad and on or like Abuse his kids by their stepfather and

[00:51:31] The forgotten farmhouse has these kids who encounter these ghosts or like pioneers that were brutally murdered and like the Ghost daughter has got like the top of her head blown off so like her she's like brain damaged and

[00:51:51] The brother can't really talk because he got like shot in the throat so his head is described as like Hang like this and Well, they could be kind of like You at times like ghosts some devil's marsh has like a

[00:52:14] Magic black woman character who explains the kids like how to deal with the ghost and That's kind of how how much I've encountered first out ghosts who can't master her is um Try to talk about like

[00:52:30] conversation and racism and I'm not sure how ball does that because the main character is so annoying That means That means unable to enjoy properly for those who didn't know And if anyone's right the blockbell get the reference on making

[00:52:50] Wow, that's incredible. We're gonna good look for shivers books now when I go into I got a look for someone those books. They sound freaking awesome Yeah, hell to the yeah. Yeah, I wonder what is a scribe those books to me you back on the came out

[00:53:05] Yeah, I would have been a bit more refined to jump on that series Why was it coming to discussion being like oh like there's been people saying that the reason Stine is named shivers and the goosebumps movie is a knock at those books

[00:53:20] I was gonna be like big joke now. I Don't want to joke about I'm like they say that's something. They say all three read these books We might be the shivers curse series channel like

[00:53:35] The shivers can I will say there's a number of them that are our a little it could tell they were rushed or There are a little weak or there's some that aren't

[00:53:44] Why does scarier anything but then just everyone's in a while you'll just hit one and it's just Close your mind so it is it is worth checking some of them out. I think there are some gems hidden within this year The world oh

[00:53:58] No, definitely sounds like it. I mean I think the darkest I ever saw goosebumps get was probably in series 2000 Maybe hadless Halloween because the whole time you think something's gonna change and then the end of the book comes here Like no no no twist here

[00:54:18] Like no you're just you're just freaking dead man You were then jar of smown a hard dead That's the star cuz you can get on a slain or then jar us Yeah, they need to pull like a brilliant jail. I swear to God

[00:54:36] It's like I wonder what a psycho murder is We don't die Oh Well, there's definitely one that I know you guys are probably really well versed in but I don't know anything about these books Let's talk about the graveyard school series

[00:55:01] So again, I know nothing about this series so if you guys could please please In light and not Autographs but yeah I mean all I can say is I really couple is a kid but I haven't read them recently and I remember seeing them a lot

[00:55:18] And I just think they're really cool covers as well. I just collect them I've been waiting for this since it started I think I'm like the biggest graveyard school fan on the planet. I've got the whole series I've even like

[00:55:35] I was able to interview Noah Faker and I've been like emailing her on an off-the-ass couple months She's great it um As much as I love goosebumps. I got to say I love graveyard school better and that's probably Sacrifice among this crowd but I I just got to

[00:55:53] I Can't lie I get it We gotta I guess we gotta If you want I'm absolutely And I'm ready Yeah But I think it's a pitch forks so fast So is it Like anthology series where it has like different characters or is it um Oh kind of interlaptia

[00:56:22] It it all takes place in the same setting yeah That coral health school or graveyard schools that call and it mainly focuses on next Six great class which is on the cusp of graduating and finally getting out of there would but You know they're dealing with

[00:56:42] Dr. Mort House the principal who may or may not have a silver bang in her mouth With vice principal Hannibal Luka who wants to remind you all that the principal is your pal And of course the delightful basement bar and his army fatigues the school janitor

[00:57:00] Who seems to live and like the Labyrinth that exists underneath the school and The kids are just though you've got like Mark Adams the baseball fish in auto and Stacy Carter who enjoys like walking dogs Stake them a draw and his cousin Vicki Wilson are the

[00:57:25] Board experts for the school and you've got my favorite Jordie the human computer flander is who's like a cross between Daria and brainacly from the latest in a superhero's but Braveyard school wouldn't be complete without Cute perfect poly Hannah who is like oh she thinks

[00:57:47] The world revolves around her she doesn't like anybody and that's fine because nobody likes her she They call her as like a A rigid knockoff Barbie who's always dressed in like pink blue and yellow She's like the ultimate teachers pet and She's not a

[00:58:09] villain but she's she's just like an asshole She's like the Roger Clots of the series basically she's always got a nose up in the air You you wouldn't have these books with that her like ruining somebody's day

[00:58:22] Like I say yeah, yeah, I wrote people's day like that to a knee It says that you only don't hurt pet On the back of the book and someone drew a cat and some weird looking what is that That's that's what I'm trying to do

[00:58:43] Yeah, I am for this I'm gonna say that That's really it's kind of a kind of an inspiration for the character my book What am I just what am I what am I it's like I too these in the back I remember when I went to a

[00:59:02] Thrift store when I was a kid I remember asking if they had any goosebumps books and she's like yeah We do she brought these out and I was like they're not goosebumps that she's like oh I thought they were like Don't say Chris Paul

[00:59:14] You're gonna do you work in a library like who are you? She didn't work here pulls off her mask and she's a little gray alien as you go I actually came across some of those books that have price books the other day so I was curious

[00:59:34] Because I knew we were gonna be talking about that series on this episode and I saw they had one those like don't eat the mystery meat or something like that Then it was slime lake and Flying lake the ghosts in the bathroom

[00:59:52] That was yeah, I like that one. That's a real I like that cover it It reminds me of the goose bump look actually with the tint of coba's red canvas That was the first one I was lucky enough to find when I was a cat

[01:00:04] They had it one of the book fairs of my school I owned it for like four years and then I started gang the rest of it I was lucky enough to get the bulk of the collection from auction on eBay and like 2004

[01:00:17] Then by 2008 I had the rest of them. How many art did they got super rare 28? 48, graveyard school. It's funny how it's super rare as they went on I said you think there'd be one series that was like not rare at all. There's nobody wanted to read

[01:00:35] I got cancer because of goose bumps Like the publisher got bought by the last sick and no a back or said that they didn't want another young adult horrible competing with it so I got canned so I'm Fine with it I'm fine

[01:00:56] See that but you're not we can see that I might it well It's like the I feel fantastic videos like I feel fantastic Jesus She's referenced in this there's a whole story about that

[01:01:21] I feel fantastic man again. I love that that's between that and the smiling friends came you know I love that that video is becoming more well known to everyone should watch it That's like some out of the twilight zone right there is that video

[01:01:37] I got to bring up another series that is more similar I don't want to see it's not exactly a rip off of give yourself goose bumps because gave yourself goose bumps was a rip off of choose your adventure

[01:01:49] But there was another choose your own adventure that was hard themed and that was choose your own nightmare The only thing I know about these books is that I distinctly remember the cover for island of doom

[01:02:03] So it was a Venus fly plant with an arm sticking out of its mouth and there was actually some blood on the cover Which is weird that they put that in a kids library

[01:02:13] But I remember that covering and recently I came across it again and I was like whoa I had like an anton ego moment where I like flashback to seeing that in my school library so

[01:02:25] But I I'm curious about those books did they have any any merit in them? I haven't read any of them so I don't know I am well If you've read give yourself goose bumps or choose your own adventure then you've read um choose your own nightmare but um

[01:02:46] They had illustrations in them by Bill Schmidt who did the covers for fear street and of the few I've read They could get pretty while sometimes one haul windbooks a tack of the living mask One of the story lines has the reader

[01:03:06] Getting um chased by vampires and one of the good endings brings you into a diner where um This elderly waitress You know you tell you being chased by vampires and she says to the Oh hey um the vampires are added again and they just like

[01:03:27] Stake them all and then offer the kids like um pumpkin pie for their troubles Pumpkin pie. Oh, I love that Yep, you hold up that part again

[01:03:42] Pumpkin pie and help out. Okay. I must be have it my brain must have been like blocking these covers out of my mind because I remember seeing that one too I think my class had like a Stock of those books or something because I remember that one too

[01:03:59] Oh That's so weird as like I completely stole yeah, yeah, I'll show it all. Yeah, yes Who will illustrations yeah? I didn't know about these when I was a kid I've never seen them until

[01:04:14] I don't know maybe the past here's I started to find some I still haven't read any of them those Yeah, I can't test how they are but uh they do just seem to be you know Give yourself goosebumps. I love the regular just choose your own adventure books

[01:04:29] But if I had known about these I would have been really excited to read them as a kid Yeah, definitely I mean like I said I could have never heard of those

[01:04:38] Super different from just you know right your choose your own adventure even give yourself goosebumps was just Choose your own adventure with you know a goose bumps put coat of paint on it so

[01:04:50] Didn't shine right a couple of those and self I think or one of the knockoffs Oh, right yeah, so Yeah, just the basic plot yeah, so but there was one thing that came from those books

[01:05:06] Did you were able to show off that there was a computer game based off? Yeah, um this is actually how I found out about it when I was a kid My dad and brother and I were in one of they were shopping in

[01:05:20] nearby many more area and one of those like 99 cent stores and we found the box with this it came up one of the books but I Lost it years ago, but I've held on to became ever since they were made by

[01:05:38] Brilliant digital entertainment as part of multi-path movies and they did a couple of them Beyond that suck-odd nine of the werewolf and the Halloween party and they also did I think um how I became a freak The evil and pal

[01:05:57] Biting for blood and when that was about a Mummy book I remember the exact thing because I think they changed it and um You can find the way throughs for them on YouTube

[01:06:10] I know the how I became a freak gets pretty wild like I'm one of the bad endings You know because the player character gets the form he's wanting a hockey mask over it and one of the police officers Freaks out thinking he's Jason Voorhees and

[01:06:32] Guns him down right there in a police station and that end with like Your character in the police morgue I think even um and they even How um when the endings has the titular evil penthouse

[01:06:52] sucked out of an airplane into the engine and the the main characters like wow he's gone Yeah Wow Wow these series got dark holy crap Who's folks is so tiny Yeah We're missing out This is like child's play Now there's a few other lesser known series

[01:07:25] That we can certainly bring up but again, I don't know anything about these But there was another one that you had mentioned earlier called a spine tinglers Yeah, you know that one too Tim Chikol is it's some of the covers for them. He's just so man Yeah

[01:07:47] Actually um the cover for this one doesn't prepare you at all for what happens in it believe me it The first chapter has the main character dreaming about the world being destroyed like um

[01:08:03] She's just like sitting in math class when a teacher comes in and tells them after teacher The cats in the cradle and the math teacher just starts crying apparently An asteroid called treasure has fallen out of orbit and is heading down to earth with the

[01:08:23] Screaming power of a thousand hydrogen bombs and that That sense the tone for this it It makes you think it's about kids Stranding in a snowstorm having to take shelter in a haunted house and it's not that at all like it At various intervals Side character is suddenly

[01:08:46] locked in pulled into a dream world like One character is Finds yourself the captain of a submarine from the old pulp book she was reading on the bus Another kid Finds himself inside the video game that he was hoping to play at school up and

[01:09:06] Cancel for the day and every time The main character comes in and tells them You can't dream you gotta wake up because if you don't then They're they're gonna get us and it

[01:09:20] He's just got to read it for yourself because I don't want to say what exactly is Targeting these kids and why it's just like Not the sort of thing Stein but do it all in a book Yeah, that's

[01:09:36] You so on assuming by the cover. I think that's what we've learned today about most of these is that Despite they're very on assuming cover. They have some really dark shit on the inside Wow, yeah, I

[01:09:50] Me too many of the spine tinglers books only read a couple of the ones I've read. I thought we're fine Nothing that I was you know that I found too super memorable

[01:10:00] But this one sounds really good and I actually just recently picked up a copy of that so I will give it a read this winter One thing I do know for sure about the spine tickler series is that they are

[01:10:12] Probably the rarest in my opinion have had a really hard time Finding hardly any of these books especially the later ones in the series it can be crazy But we're they just don't ever appear online now going into some of the more obscure stuff I know before we

[01:10:30] You know God here today GD actually had some Suggestons on stuff that bring up and one of them was Called strange matter yeah this um this series of This is like on graveyard school and booksville like it has shared universe and a ran for like

[01:10:50] 30 every 30 bucks and it had a four books spin off like The creators Mori angle and Johnny Ray Barnes like they ran their own website You know a fan club for it they had a

[01:11:06] Contest in 1996 with a winner guy a short story printed and one of their books and the restaurant put on their website These two really care about what they were doing with the series. I even tried to pitch a

[01:11:20] Series to Disney and the 90s, but it was rejected like um It got pretty well too like they I've spoken to Mori a bit on Facebook and he said the two of them try to like make each of them like a mini movie and

[01:11:38] They got while the times I was even they were look I was looking off they let me have permission to Read the unfinished draft for what have been the 31st book in the series Rilo

[01:11:51] Through some of a occasion and um I did a recap of it for a point or are you guys can check out? I'm hoping at some point They might get be able to revitalize the series and continue what you know

[01:12:05] People can correct me if I'm on the part a couple of the books where you an adapted for Ponding hour if I'm not mistaken I think the creature to teach you right thank you. Yeah, but I know they helped out on it I've

[01:12:19] I mean I've never actually seen the episode and I have the book that I haven't read it yet I've been trying to go in order, but yeah, they did help out with that

[01:12:28] That's really interesting. I didn't know that and then one more series I have on my list is another one That you would brought up before was hair razors? Yeah, oh

[01:12:40] I haven't done enough research into this but there was a kids horror boom in Australia during the 90s as well I know Paul Jennings wrote a lot of like young adult horror back then and um

[01:12:56] The series wicked that got a cartoon adaptation in 2000s like you can watch the episodes online I've only actually read one of the hair razors books. Yeah, that's him. Yeah and

[01:13:12] Also some of Jennings stories were adapted for a live action show in the early 90s called round the twist And that was kind of like So it's a childy chair. I only said one of them. There was a really the scare crow thing is that it

[01:13:30] Yeah, an episode of the scare crow. They're fine Yeah, scare the shit. That's a big hero story. Let's share I've been to the location when they shot that Like a big lighthouse It was like a school excursion thing

[01:13:46] Clearly to go there because it was like such a big thing here Then they shot that Yeah, I'm I never watched around the twist but I was I am familiar with it with all my Fox kids commercial hunting

[01:14:02] A lot of cannibals in true and a very catchy intro I mean With strange things happen when you go around the twist Man, I was cute Yeah, I loved to add the CD with like the song when I was a kid I think I did a

[01:14:21] Comic adaptation of like one episode. I keep forgetting to look for a copy somewhere because I like to add it to my collection at least to a recap of it So we've gone over a lot of You know plenty of series today

[01:14:37] But do you guys have any maybe deep cut Sort of young doll horror series that we haven't mentioned yet I didn't want to mention briefly a doomsday mall This was only six books long and it was published by the same people who did graveyard school skylock and

[01:15:00] oh, you know This was also about Um, haunted hell like specifically on mall that had been built over what was known as hangman's hill It's like every book was about a Different go of somebody who'd been hanged in the past and I

[01:15:22] One of them the beast is about like two kids who are stuck in a virtual reality sort of thing having to play through a a immersion video game and

[01:15:34] Each of the levels based on like a fake horror movie and what always stuck with me is that the first level is based on a movie called mutants of pause which is apparently a movie where Someone dropped a nuclear bomb on the emerald city of Oz and

[01:15:56] I'm always sort of had like a minor was it of Oz Fascination ever since I was a kid me and my brother like my mom was super into it And it just amazing me that

[01:16:09] No one else had thought of doing something like that for real. I loved Wizard of Oz and returned to Oz Which was one of my favorite movies ever To end also is terrifying. It was like a 90s

[01:16:21] 80s like 80s was 90s yeah, yeah, he's freaking if young for oh how do you pronounce a name a horse and ball Yeah, and she was in the The crowd. Oh god. He was in the craft American history X and She was in the

[01:16:41] What it was in water boy and I think she briefly did the voice of Someone on family guy the blonde girl who always bullied Meg Connie Demiko or at least she

[01:16:54] Did before the show was canceled really yeah, I didn't oh wow that's interesting. I've got some deep cuts I have read these that I just recently tried now so I'm just like they're Holy new to me and I'm gonna read them soon

[01:17:11] House of horrors is this series of six books They are trope dealers they're published by heart Harper so I don't know if these have the same kids it looks like they do like a brother and sister I love that one there They have really great covers

[01:17:29] There's only six of them Okay, I think I've seen one of them Really no I have one but I've never read it unfortunately and you know um Yeah, when

[01:17:45] He did like the barco tattoo that thumb around them right yeah yeah I remember for the barco tattoo that was a point earlier I think like a later one a point where Spider-Wounds I don't like The colorful covers and the Oh We're It's a It's a

[01:18:21] Two-Spump series that I don't think ever came out in the English language so you can only get them in French But I found one and Red French so and full I learned French it's just gonna sit on my shelf I use like good

[01:18:37] But everybody knows it doesn't work really Spump book This is the same habit I eventually liked it What's that? On the goosebumps French books yeah, I think a lot of

[01:18:49] French books all look kind of the same they have the same kind of design well I guess one more series I want to talk about really quick This is not cool you know this is not

[01:19:01] Really much of a actually no it really is a ripoff series but in the sort of goofy survey we got to talk about Gooflumps Oh, gooflumps so these are obviously these are parody books Straight parodies of goose bumps and there was only two And I just

[01:19:24] That's lying in me. I love these because It's very much down to like just the design of the cover to the name I love all this stuff on the cover so it says this is not a goose bumps book And then Yeah

[01:19:47] Better than a goose bumps both because it's got wrapping in it Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's like it's a very nice. It's got what kind of wrapping is it like What kind of wrapping like exactly between the goose bump and wrap it or no not that kind of wrapping

[01:20:07] I'm a liar Bad I love that And an authorized parody Ha ha ha Mass mute yeah, he's a bad dude. Oh, god that sounds in my head now and it's all about the mosque like in his wrap man But what is that

[01:20:29] This I've seen that before gross lump All right, I saw that in that price books like a couple weeks ago and I picked it up There's only one of them but there is a list on the inside that makes you think there's like 50 of these things

[01:20:43] But oh, that's gonna drive me nuts now Yeah, I've not read it. I don't know what it's like but it just reminded me of you know the parody series Never mind me off um You guys know how like a lot of those kind of exclusive

[01:21:04] goosebumps parodies you can find unlike Amazon Like moostumps I remember years ago spooky's that's spelled with a Z-at the end which tries to be like um it was shingles before shingles I only ever read the really scary summer camp and

[01:21:30] The only thing I can remember about it is one of the kick characters obliviously explaining how he somehow At a three way with two girls Oh, what I I'm not making your own my spreading. I don't know but it's with these

[01:21:49] You can do these parodies trying to go as like off the walls they possibly can it just I probably still have it in my kingdom somewhere but I haven't read read it in here. First

[01:22:05] Now I just I've never seen that gross lump so on before I only knew about you know gooflumps as like the The goosebumps parody series but what's the name of that book this one yeah The irritate your spook lands

[01:22:23] And it says it's a very story some more roots some than puberty Can you read these stories about urinating here? I like these ones because you have this one but they're both clear takes off of certain goose bumps books So you have each cheese and barf and

[01:22:48] I mean this one is just about like a giant cheese monster And then there's like a bunch of scenes where the main character is vomiting and then there's another character who burps all the time And then this one is stay out of the bathroom

[01:23:04] I'm gonna read some of the stuff on the back here. It says save your breath everybody Joe will put down the seat not now not ever But the bully of the bowl has met his match it's payback time and the toilet is plunging into action

[01:23:17] First it refuses to flush then a grotty stomach virus brings Joe head to head with the enemy and the seat comes slamming down Beheading in the bathroom not if Joe can help it Oh my god

[01:23:36] I don't even have the good flow of books. I've never been able to find them here and The great thing about I don't I haven't read this one, but I haven't read this one And the great thing about this book is the ending because there is no ending

[01:23:50] It's just what do you mean? The monsters defeated and then they do like the thing where it's like oh no like something else is happening something's coming out of the monster But then it's literally just a bird Then they're like

[01:24:04] Then I knew everything was gonna be okay, and that's fine of the book. I see it There's our stand thing about goofloms. Does you have a message anything about it? I don't know. I don't what I wonder if he's ever met are you slime?

[01:24:26] Oh, yeah, it's gonna say someone needs a man off the nest the legend Oh, man, I use slime It is Are you slime? Was raised by alligators in New York City in the New York City sewer system

[01:24:45] It has written on the bathroom walls all over the world, but he's never written a book in his life Now that he's finished a stay out of the bathroom and eat cheese and bar if he's ready to get back to watching soap operas

[01:24:56] Facuming and taking out the trash are his favorite sports Rupert With his under the sounds like the weird al-yankovitch of the author world Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually yeah, you're right

[01:25:10] I think I don't know if that's it, but I think right here there's a name that says a Cynthia Helper and I'm Probably willing to bet that's either who that is in the picture or that's the actual author of the books because they're actually pretty sneaky

[01:25:25] They don't say who actually wrote this Just adding to the adding to the Part Yeah, I would Remember where I first saw these I think I just like came across a picture one of them on Google Many many years ago and I was like what is that?

[01:25:43] I've never seen that book before goof bumps I don't have that goose bump book. Yeah That's weird. Oh, can goose bumps book, but it says not a goose bumps book. Don't you forget it I Have a piece of eyes up

[01:26:01] So I guess coming to the end of our little discussion talk here to kind of wrap things up What would you guys say is your favorite among the goose bumps adjacent? Bone killers I think bone joists too. Fun children's graveyard school those two

[01:26:17] I like I like both of them. I don't know say like I want to check out shivers apparently because Yeah, that that just sounds amazing Like I'm sure they're not all ears, but the ones we talked about today were pretty awesome. Yeah

[01:26:34] Well, I already said like I'm graveyard school my whole life so yeah after that number one number one number one No, I was thinking that too Oh my god I think that's the moral of today is that we need to check these out

[01:27:02] Check them out if you have a connection We check me out. I mean again, it's interesting because you know with going back to what I said at the beginning is like You know anything popular is gonna have like its copycats and whatnot, but it's like

[01:27:15] Sometimes those copycats can put out a product that's on par with the original so I don't know it's it's always worth finding out you know some people can bring that New spin to something that's uh that kind of formula. So yeah, yeah

[01:27:32] We're definitely gonna have to take a trip to the books or after this one stuff a book show man Oh, the book festival. I'll be looking at the shoes. Yeah, absolutely well That's gonna do it for tonight's episode the goof up coupon cast. I want to thank

[01:27:47] Cameron and Jude for joining us tonight and telling us about some of these series We're very much happy to have you guys on And thank you Yep, of course We're can uh work in our audience find you guys on a social media and YouTube

[01:28:03] Yeah, you can find me on YouTube You're just searching Cameron, Shaney or library macabre I'm under library macabre on Instagram I'm on Twitter. I'm very active on Twitter so you don't have to follow me there But mostly the active on yeah YouTube and Instagram

[01:28:21] You can just basically find me wherever as Jude to look He is the same name. I'm pretty much everything tumblr instagram Twitter or I guess axe You sky Facebook yeah Awesome and you could also find Jude over on a point hard.com and wicked hard.com

[01:28:42] He writes articles over there on Books similar to what we talked through today as opposed any other Harer books and yeah, so please go check out Cam and Jude

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